| ccheney | yea i added those three to glib | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| asac | also gpoll? | 00:00 |
| ccheney | yea | 00:00 |
| asac | was that needed? | 00:00 |
| asac | e.g. does it use local state from main? | 00:00 |
| ccheney | gpoll sort of existed in glib before but not the function, the GPollFD bits already were there | 00:00 |
| asac | ok. if its just an addition its probably ok | 00:00 |
| asac | can you publish clean patches ;) | 00:00 |
| asac | ok ... so and now you have issues with gnutls | 00:01 |
| asac | ? | 00:01 |
| ccheney | it seems to only do: return poll ((struct pollfd *)fds, nfds, timeout); | 00:01 |
| ccheney | and the pollfd already existed in old version | 00:01 |
| asac | yeah. thats safe | 00:01 |
| asac | have you checke if pollfd struct changed? | 00:01 |
| ccheney | yea gnutls needs a priority function for setting which cipher to use | 00:01 |
| ccheney | oh i need to verify that part yea | 00:01 |
| asac | better double check | 00:01 |
| asac | but will review too, so we should be safe ;) | 00:02 |
| ccheney | does not appear to have changed, no | 00:02 |
| asac | ok. good | 00:02 |
| asac | ccheney: whats the prob with priority func? | 00:02 |
| ccheney | the old priority system was completely different it seems, i have to create a shim to it i think | 00:02 |
| ccheney | hopefully its doable without breaking abi | 00:03 |
| ccheney | soup has a bug reference to this about it: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=581342 | 00:03 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 581342 in HTTP Transport "gnutls problems with SSL3 compat" [Normal,Reopened] | 00:03 |
| asac | ccheney: what is gnutls needed for? | 00:05 |
| asac | ccheney: oh right. so what i think is that we should fix the soup side to use the old priority stuff | 00:06 |
| asac | rather than introducing the new one | 00:06 |
| asac | ccheney: or is that priority model directly exposed by libsoup to its clients? | 00:06 |
| ccheney | http://people.canonical.com/~ccheney/glib2.0-backport.diff | 00:07 |
| asac | chromium can be annoying ;) | 00:07 |
| ccheney | asac: not sure yet, need to look closer at how it is used | 00:07 |
| ccheney | if its not exported i can look at what the old soup does in the function and revert that part probably | 00:08 |
| asac | right | 00:09 |
| asac | thats the idea | 00:09 |
| asac | fine ... | 00:10 |
| ccheney | yea looks like i can just revert that one line | 00:14 |
| crimsun | asac: still experiencing audio problems with current Lucid? | 00:15 |
| ccheney | so now on to webkit :) | 00:15 |
| ccheney | well i have to finish cleaning up the packaging side of soup but that should be trivial | 00:16 |
| ccheney | hmm well now it fails weird | 00:16 |
| * ccheney retries the build again | 00:16 | |
| * ccheney hates packages that can't be rebuilt after running clean target | 00:17 | |
| ccheney | grr | 00:21 |
| * ccheney looks to see if he somehow reverted the disable gnome bits | 00:21 | |
| ccheney | libtool: link: cannot find the library `../../libsoup/libsoup-gnome-2.4.la' or unhandled argument `../../libsoup/libsoup-gnome-2.4.la' | 00:22 |
| ccheney | stupid pos | 00:22 |
| ccheney | i turned off gnome already | 00:22 |
| ccheney | oops | 00:23 |
| ccheney | i didn't turn off the gtk-doc's though which don't complain if you have without-gnome turned on | 00:23 |
| ccheney | works except for assumption gnome is being built for the control file, i guess the maintainer really didn't want it to be easily bootstrappable | 00:26 |
| ccheney | ok it built fine! :) | 00:29 |
| ccheney | have to go get dinner or i will have a mutiny on my hands, ttys :) | 00:30 |
| asac | crimsun: still there? | 01:39 |
| asac | crimsun: i think my problems are only about alsamixer settings being reset randonmly | 01:40 |
| asac | well ... changed randomly | 01:40 |
| asac | after reboots | 01:40 |
| asac | also its odd, but now alsamixer has effect on sound | 01:40 |
| asac | while it didnt have any effect in karmic ... hope thats a fixed feature ;) | 01:40 |
| asac | ... but can be confusing as my case shows | 01:41 |
| fta | fortunately, i pinned those packages | 01:54 |
| BUGabundo | eh | 01:54 |
| BUGabundo | sound working fine here | 01:54 |
| BUGabundo | just not audio indicator | 01:55 |
| fta | regression in nautilus | 02:14 |
| fta | try to drag something from a folder or from the desktop, ugly solid square | 02:15 |
| BUGabundo | kenvandine: how do I check error logs in the new gwibber? | 02:37 |
| BUGabundo | other statusnet servers aren't outputting anything | 02:38 |
| BUGabundo | I would like to debug it | 02:38 |
| LLStarks | oh hell no | 06:58 |
| LLStarks | asac. we are not using google custom homepage for the people who reject yahoo. | 06:59 |
| LLStarks | this won't do. | 06:59 |
| LLStarks | i find it shocking that this was even considered after the debacle during the karmic cycle. | 07:00 |
| BUGabundo | MORNINGGGGGGG cocoroco | 10:36 |
| BUGabundo | fta detaching a tab, makes chromium daily crash | 10:55 |
| BUGabundo | fta: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=36332 | 11:00 |
| gnomefreak | didnt we plan on making Jaunty Firefox unversioned? | 12:46 |
| === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_FEDWS | ||
| === BUGabundo_FEDWS is now known as BUGabundo | ||
| samfreed | Thunderbird lost all accounts after I used it under sudo by mistake. HELP! | 13:58 |
| gnomefreak | samfreed: new profile | 13:59 |
| gnomefreak | samfreed: only way to really fix it nicely | 13:59 |
| samfreed | how do I re-get my old accounts? | 13:59 |
| samfreed | (mostly imap) | 13:59 |
| samfreed | it tries a new profine anyhow, righ? | 13:59 |
| gnomefreak | samfreed: they should still show up if you rename old profile | 14:00 |
| gnomefreak | _should_ | 14:00 |
| samfreed | how do I rename the old profile? | 14:00 |
| gnomefreak | samfreed: tb2? | 14:00 |
| samfreed | tb2? I don't understand. | 14:01 |
| gnomefreak | thunderbird-2? | 14:01 |
| samfreed | I run two thunderbirds in the same time? | 14:01 |
| gnomefreak | samfreed: what version do you have? | 14:01 |
| samfreed | karmic, 2.0.0.23+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 | 14:02 |
| vish | samfreed: how did you start thunderbird ? sudo thunderbird? | 14:02 |
| samfreed | sudo bash, and then "thunderbird".... | 14:02 |
| samfreed | panacea.dat is MUCH smaller than in my backup | 14:03 |
| gnomefreak | ok than run "mv ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/.mozilla-thunderbird.old | 14:03 |
| vish | samfreed: did you close thunderbird after that? and open thunderbird from the menu? | 14:03 |
| gnomefreak | vish: permissions should stay there if he used sudo or su | 14:03 |
| samfreed | I closed it, and re-started it from my user, "sam. | 14:04 |
| samfreed | gnomefreak: if I move it all aside, how do I re-get my local folders? just move 'em accross after I reconfigure all the imaps? | 14:04 |
| gnomefreak | samfreed: just rename it and thunderbird will open as you had it only with new permissions | 14:05 |
| gnomefreak | why is my damn sound not working still | 14:05 |
| samfreed | gnomefreak: Trying... | 14:05 |
| gnomefreak | ah now sound works :) you have to go into prefereces to unmute it the indicator will not unmute it for you when you use the sound bar :( | 14:06 |
| gnomefreak | crimsun: ^^^ | 14:06 |
| samfreed | import..... - should I import? | 14:06 |
| gnomefreak | samfreed: it starts over again? | 14:07 |
| samfreed | it starts like brand-new, it wants to import. | 14:07 |
| gnomefreak | so im the only one on earth that it doesnt start over again :( | 14:07 |
| samfreed | all the settings are in .mozilla-thunderbird , so how should it know better? | 14:08 |
| gnomefreak | samfreed: try to rename it back to how it was and try changing permissions on the folder recursively | 14:08 |
| samfreed | changing how? 777 ? | 14:08 |
| gnomefreak | samfreed: mine does i spent 3 days working on it to not do that | 14:08 |
| gnomefreak | yes | 14:08 |
| samfreed | that's a bit dramatic. All the files in the hierarchy are owned by "sam". | 14:08 |
| gnomefreak | samfreed: use mv ~/.mozilla-thunderbird.old ~/.mozilla-thunderbird | 14:09 |
| gnomefreak | samfreed: not if you used sudo or su or ran it from term when you were in root term | 14:09 |
| gnomefreak | root now owns the dir. | 14:10 |
| samfreed | sam@v200:~$ find .mozilla-thunderbird -user root -print | 14:10 |
| samfreed | sam@v200:~$ find .mozilla-thunderbird ! -user sam -print | 14:10 |
| samfreed | sam@v200:~$ | 14:10 |
| samfreed | nope. sam does. | 14:10 |
| vish | gnomefreak: if he ran thunderbird as root , would it have been just the root thunderbird profile... ? if he reopens if from his account should it work? | 14:10 |
| vish | shouldnt* | 14:11 |
| samfreed | I would guess it _should_...... | 14:11 |
| gnomefreak | vish: if its like firefox no | 14:11 |
| gnomefreak | if it should rename it back and try using launcher or a non-root term | 14:11 |
| vish | gnomefreak: hmm , weird for me even for firefox i can run as root and my user separately | 14:12 |
| gnomefreak | vish: unless it was changed in 3.6 it never did | 14:12 |
| gnomefreak | at least AFAIR | 14:12 |
| samfreed | I guess I can just reconfigure everything afresh in a new .mozilla-thunderbrid, and then move my LocalFolders acress, but that is fugly. | 14:13 |
| gnomefreak | thats why we close bugs and tell them to use new profile :) | 14:13 |
| vish | its been that way since a long time for me :s .. i could have 2 firefox's running like that | 14:13 |
| gnomefreak | samfreed: did you rename it back to orig and try launching it from launcher? | 14:13 |
| gnomefreak | vish: same profile? | 14:13 |
| vish | gnomefreak: oh , no.. one for root and one as mine | 14:14 |
| gnomefreak | vish: my point :) | 14:14 |
| vish | ah :) | 14:14 |
| samfreed | Yes, no Email accounts or local folders, NOTHING. and panacea.dat is much shorter than a few days ago (backp). | 14:14 |
| samfreed | using the old "panaea.dat" did not help. | 14:14 |
| gnomefreak | there should never be a reason to run non-root apps with root | 14:14 |
| samfreed | there is at least one valid reason - "Human Error". | 14:15 |
| vish | gnomefreak: yeah.. it mostly opened when root daemons crashed.. mostly i wouldnt open it intentionally ;) | 14:15 |
| gnomefreak | that could cause it. stop crashing things :) | 14:15 |
| vish | apport _used to_ open the root firefox | 14:15 |
| samfreed | Anyhow - What's the recommendation? | 14:16 |
| samfreed | switch to evolution <duck> | 14:16 |
| gnomefreak | samfreed: everyhting in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird is owned by root so either try to set as user or start over | 14:16 |
| samfreed | it ISNT. It's all owned by "sam". Its odd, but true. | 14:17 |
| gnomefreak | samfreed: ok so use it than | 14:17 |
| samfreed | sam@v200:~$ find .mozilla-thunderbird -user root -print | 14:17 |
| samfreed | sam@v200:~$ find .mozilla-thunderbird ! -user sam -print | 14:17 |
| samfreed | but no accounts in the GUI. | 14:17 |
| samfreed | and panacea is short. | 14:17 |
| * gnomefreak goes for smoke than back to op duty :( | 14:19 | |
| gnomefreak | someone should have told him ~/.mozilla-thunderbird is not the profile | 14:25 |
| fta | BUGabundo, dupe | 14:37 |
| BUGabundo | orly? | 14:37 |
| BUGabundo | couldn't find one | 14:37 |
| BUGabundo | fta: have you updated your identica subcription of my remote profile? | 14:39 |
| fta | er, nope | 14:41 |
| BUGabundo | :( | 14:42 |
| fta | how would i know? | 14:51 |
| BUGabundo | cause I've been telling ppl about it for 8 mohts? | 14:56 |
| BUGabundo | please sub to https://mi.BUGabundo.net | 14:56 |
| fta | BUGabundo, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=36151 could you please try with the version in lucid or the beta ppa? | 14:58 |
| BUGabundo | sur | 14:58 |
| BUGabundo | aint that my dupe? | 14:59 |
| BUGabundo | fta: so just $ chr --sync ? | 15:01 |
| fta | nope, without, but with -beta (or -dev) | 15:01 |
| BUGabundo | crashed | 15:02 |
| BUGabundo | with sync | 15:02 |
| fta | hm, i snap on greader | 15:02 |
| fta | reload worked. weird | 15:02 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/380402/http://paste.ubuntu.com/380402/ | 15:03 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/380402/ | 15:03 |
| BUGabundo | I got a few snaps too | 15:03 |
| BUGabundo | seems to happen after upgrades | 15:03 |
| BUGabundo | hee | 15:05 |
| BUGabundo | it crashes with just ONE tab too | 15:05 |
| BUGabundo | ^opened tab^ | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | fta, mind if i upgrade the bzr format to 2a in the packaging branch for the dailies? | 19:06 |
| kenvandine | i can't merge the packaging changes back from lucid into it with it :/ | 19:06 |
| asac | kenvandine: yes | 19:09 |
| asac | we dont want to go for stuff that doesnt work in hardy | 19:10 |
| asac | kenvandine: just dont branch stuff into a 2a format | 19:10 |
| kenvandine | eww... ok | 19:10 |
| asac | imo HUUUUGE mistake that bzr folks bump defaults that early | 19:10 |
| kenvandine | i'll manually merge the difference | 19:10 |
| asac | kenvandine: packaging changes from lucid? | 19:10 |
| kenvandine | we upgraded the gwibber one because everyone was getting segfaults from bzr | 19:10 |
| kenvandine | which was fixed in 2a :/ | 19:11 |
| asac | thats a bad decision :( | 19:11 |
| kenvandine | yeah, split the themes into a separate package | 19:11 |
| asac | i dont care. i dont even know whats going on, but i certainly dont want any important branches to be on 2a | 19:11 |
| kenvandine | lots of them are now | 19:11 |
| kenvandine | but i have no preference | 19:11 |
| asac | anyone doing it is not better than any program author that just on latest api crack | 19:12 |
| kenvandine | gwibber trunk had to get upgrade so people could actually branch it | 19:12 |
| asac | they do bad to the whole linux ecosystem | 19:12 |
| asac | kenvandine: sure this wasnt just the case with the bzr version in lucid or karmic or something? | 19:12 |
| kenvandine | yeah, it wasn't | 19:13 |
| asac | so just one version? | 19:13 |
| kenvandine | they said it was a bug that the fix for was in the 2a format | 19:13 |
| kenvandine | bug in the repository format or some non-sense | 19:13 |
| asac | bzr still sucks :( | 19:13 |
| asac | you cannot go and evangelize its use if something like that happens | 19:13 |
| kenvandine | look hours to upgrade the format for gwibber trunk | 19:13 |
| kenvandine | which sucked | 19:13 |
| kenvandine | during the sprint | 19:13 |
| kenvandine | when people couldn't check it out | 19:14 |
| asac | lets hope 2a is the final format | 19:14 |
| asac | this format madness just is bad | 19:14 |
| asac | anyway. for gwibber packaging brnach i have no strong opinion | 19:15 |
| asac | if lp:gwibber had to go there, then there is probably no sense keeping it back | 19:15 |
| asac | also gwibber cannot be used on hardy anyways ;) | 19:15 |
| kenvandine | true... unless you want to backport lots | 19:16 |
| kenvandine | ok... so go ahead and upgrade it? | 19:16 |
| asac | kenvandine: wait for fta... he needs to upgrade the daily local bfanches | 19:16 |
| asac | otherwise the merge will fail too | 19:16 |
| kenvandine | sure | 19:16 |
| kenvandine | ok... fta: whenever your around... let me know | 19:16 |
| kenvandine | i'll be afk but will read scrollback | 19:17 |
| kenvandine | thx | 19:17 |
| asac | kenvandine: btw, gwibber doesnt show any notificatio natm ;) | 19:17 |
| asac | atm | 19:17 |
| kenvandine | none? | 19:17 |
| asac | zero | 19:17 |
| asac | yes | 19:17 |
| kenvandine | is it enabled ? :) | 19:17 |
| asac | its enabled in preferences | 19:17 |
| kenvandine | rick thought he wasn't... | 19:17 |
| kenvandine | but then noticed he had "notifications for mentions only" checked | 19:17 |
| asac | yes | 19:17 |
| asac | that setting is bogus ;) | 19:18 |
| asac | seems i had the same | 19:18 |
| asac | let me see | 19:18 |
| kenvandine | ah :) | 19:18 |
| * kenvandine checks the default | 19:18 | |
| kenvandine | ah, that is enabled by default | 19:18 |
| kenvandine | not sure i agree with that | 19:18 |
| kenvandine | there was lots of debate | 19:18 |
| asac | kenvandine: why is there a menu at all? | 19:18 |
| asac | rather than just a toolbar? | 19:18 |
| fta | ? | 19:18 |
| asac | its quite empty | 19:19 |
| asac | fta: kenvandine wants to upgrade gwibber packaging branch to latest crack format 2a | 19:19 |
| asac | fta: read scrollback (minus my rants) | 19:19 |
| kenvandine | asac, *wants* is rather strong :) | 19:19 |
| kenvandine | it would let me merge changes to it | 19:19 |
| kenvandine | or i could manually merge it | 19:19 |
| kenvandine | in which case bzr loses :) | 19:19 |
| asac | kenvandine: isnt the packaging branch a package only branch? | 19:20 |
| asac | kenvandine: e.g. why is that an issue at all? | 19:20 |
| kenvandine | yeah... it is | 19:20 |
| asac | then the problem is just that you upgraded locally ;) | 19:20 |
| kenvandine | but the ~ubuntu-destop one is also 2a | 19:20 |
| kenvandine | not sure why... | 19:20 |
| asac | kenvandine: who pushed that? | 19:20 |
| kenvandine | pitti might have | 19:20 |
| kenvandine | not sure... most of the ubuntu-desktop ones are 2a i think | 19:20 |
| asac | in that case i would manually do the changes ;) | 19:20 |
| kenvandine | pitti has upgraded a bunch of mine :) | 19:21 |
| asac | and overwrite the desktop branch | 19:21 |
| asac | yeah | 19:21 |
| asac | i dont care | 19:21 |
| asac | i will ask him eventually why he is so bad ;) | 19:21 |
| asac | ah ... there is a notification | 19:21 |
| kenvandine | i think the thing is having a mix of formats sucks | 19:22 |
| asac | i asked for a bzr feature to prevent upgrades | 19:22 |
| asac | like the "only commit on top" | 19:22 |
| asac | but they said they dont want to prevent these problems | 19:22 |
| kenvandine | the bzr folks swear 2a is final and more stable | 19:22 |
| asac | the "a" doesnt feel that promissing ;) | 19:23 |
| kenvandine | haha | 19:23 |
| kenvandine | i'll manually merge the changes later today/tonight | 19:23 |
| kenvandine | gotta head outside and enjoy this beautiful weather | 19:23 |
| kenvandine | :) | 19:23 |
| asac | thats much better i guess | 19:23 |
| asac | (outside) | 19:23 |
| kenvandine | 60F and sunny | 19:24 |
| kenvandine | later! | 19:24 |
| LLStarks | asac. why is google about:home a google custom search? | 22:39 |
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