[00:00] <ccheney> yea i added those three to glib
[00:00] <asac> also gpoll?
[00:00] <ccheney> yea
[00:00] <asac> was that needed?
[00:00] <asac> e.g. does it use local state from main?
[00:00] <ccheney> gpoll sort of existed in glib before but not the function, the GPollFD bits already were there
[00:00] <asac> ok. if its just an addition its probably ok
[00:00] <asac> can you publish clean patches ;)
[00:01] <asac> ok ... so and now you have issues with gnutls
[00:01] <asac> ?
[00:01] <ccheney> it seems to only do:   return poll ((struct pollfd *)fds, nfds, timeout);
[00:01] <ccheney> and the pollfd already existed in old version
[00:01] <asac> yeah. thats safe
[00:01] <asac> have you checke if pollfd struct changed?
[00:01] <ccheney> yea gnutls needs a priority function for setting which cipher to use
[00:01] <ccheney> oh i need to verify that part yea
[00:01] <asac> better double check
[00:02] <asac> but will review too, so we should be safe ;)
[00:02] <ccheney> does not appear to have changed, no
[00:02] <asac> ok. good
[00:02] <asac> ccheney: whats the prob with priority func?
[00:02] <ccheney> the old priority system was completely different it seems, i have to create a shim to it i think
[00:03] <ccheney> hopefully its doable without breaking abi
[00:03] <ccheney> soup has a bug reference to this about it: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=581342
[00:05] <asac> ccheney: what is gnutls needed for?
[00:06] <asac> ccheney: oh right. so what i think is that we should fix the soup side to use the old priority stuff
[00:06] <asac> rather than introducing the new one
[00:06] <asac> ccheney: or is that priority model directly exposed by libsoup to its clients?
[00:07] <ccheney> http://people.canonical.com/~ccheney/glib2.0-backport.diff
[00:07] <asac> chromium can be annoying ;)
[00:07] <ccheney> asac: not sure yet, need to look closer at how it is used
[00:08] <ccheney> if its not exported i can look at what the old soup does in the function and revert that part probably
[00:09] <asac> right
[00:09] <asac> thats the idea
[00:10] <asac> fine ...
[00:14] <ccheney> yea looks like i can just revert that one line
[00:15] <crimsun> asac: still experiencing audio problems with current Lucid?
[00:15] <ccheney> so now on to webkit :)
[00:16] <ccheney> well i have to finish cleaning up the packaging side of soup but that should be trivial
[00:16] <ccheney> hmm well now it fails weird
[00:16]  * ccheney retries the build again
[00:17]  * ccheney hates packages that can't be rebuilt after running clean target
[00:21] <ccheney> grr
[00:21]  * ccheney looks to see if he somehow reverted the disable gnome bits
[00:22] <ccheney> libtool: link: cannot find the library `../../libsoup/libsoup-gnome-2.4.la' or unhandled argument `../../libsoup/libsoup-gnome-2.4.la'
[00:22] <ccheney> stupid pos
[00:22] <ccheney> i turned off gnome already
[00:23] <ccheney> oops
[00:23] <ccheney> i didn't turn off the gtk-doc's though which don't complain if you have without-gnome turned on
[00:26] <ccheney> works except for assumption gnome is being built for the control file, i guess the maintainer really didn't want it to be easily bootstrappable
[00:29] <ccheney> ok it built fine! :)
[00:30] <ccheney> have to go get dinner or i will have a mutiny on my hands, ttys :)
[01:39] <asac> crimsun: still there?
[01:40] <asac> crimsun: i think my problems are only about alsamixer settings being reset randonmly
[01:40] <asac> well ... changed randomly
[01:40] <asac> after reboots
[01:40] <asac> also its odd, but now alsamixer has effect on sound
[01:40] <asac> while it didnt have any effect in karmic ... hope thats a fixed feature ;)
[01:41] <asac> ... but can be confusing as my case shows
[01:54] <fta> fortunately, i pinned those packages
[01:54] <BUGabundo> eh
[01:54] <BUGabundo> sound working fine here
[01:55] <BUGabundo> just not audio indicator
[02:14] <fta> regression in nautilus
[02:15] <fta> try to drag something from a folder or from the desktop, ugly solid square
[02:37] <BUGabundo> kenvandine: how do I check error logs in the new gwibber?
[02:38] <BUGabundo> other statusnet servers aren't outputting anything
[02:38] <BUGabundo> I would like to debug it
[06:58] <LLStarks> oh hell no
[06:59] <LLStarks> asac. we are not using google custom homepage for the people who reject yahoo.
[06:59] <LLStarks> this won't do.
[07:00] <LLStarks> i find it shocking that this was even considered after the debacle during the karmic cycle.
[10:36] <BUGabundo> MORNINGGGGGGG     cocoroco
[10:55] <BUGabundo> fta detaching a tab, makes chromium daily crash
[11:00] <BUGabundo> fta: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=36332
[12:46] <gnomefreak> didnt we plan on making Jaunty Firefox unversioned?
[13:58] <samfreed> Thunderbird lost all accounts after I used it under sudo by mistake. HELP!
[13:59] <gnomefreak> samfreed: new profile
[13:59] <gnomefreak> samfreed: only way to really fix it nicely
[13:59] <samfreed> how do I re-get my old accounts?
[13:59] <samfreed> (mostly imap)
[13:59] <samfreed> it tries a new profine anyhow, righ?
[14:00] <gnomefreak> samfreed: they should still show up if you rename old profile
[14:00] <gnomefreak> _should_
[14:00] <samfreed> how do I rename the old profile?
[14:00] <gnomefreak> samfreed: tb2?
[14:01] <samfreed> tb2? I don't understand.
[14:01] <gnomefreak> thunderbird-2?
[14:01] <samfreed> I run two thunderbirds in the same time?
[14:01] <gnomefreak> samfreed: what version do you have?
[14:02] <samfreed> karmic, 2.0.0.23+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1
[14:02] <vish> samfreed: how did you start thunderbird ?   sudo thunderbird?
[14:02] <samfreed> sudo bash, and then "thunderbird"....
[14:03] <samfreed> panacea.dat is MUCH smaller than in my backup
[14:03] <gnomefreak> ok than run "mv ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/.mozilla-thunderbird.old
[14:03] <vish> samfreed: did you close thunderbird after that? and open thunderbird from the menu?
[14:03] <gnomefreak> vish: permissions should stay there if he used sudo or su
[14:04] <samfreed> I closed it, and re-started it from my user, "sam.
[14:04] <samfreed> gnomefreak: if I move it all aside, how do I re-get my local folders? just move 'em accross after I reconfigure all the imaps?
[14:05] <gnomefreak> samfreed: just rename it and thunderbird will open as you had it only with new permissions
[14:05] <gnomefreak> why is my damn sound not working still
[14:05] <samfreed> gnomefreak: Trying...
[14:06] <gnomefreak> ah now sound works :) you have to go into prefereces to unmute it the indicator will not unmute it for you when you use the sound bar :(
[14:06] <gnomefreak> crimsun: ^^^
[14:06] <samfreed> import..... - should I import?
[14:07] <gnomefreak> samfreed: it starts over again?
[14:07] <samfreed> it starts like brand-new, it wants to import.
[14:07] <gnomefreak> so im the only one on earth that it doesnt start over again :(
[14:08] <samfreed> all the settings are in .mozilla-thunderbird , so how should it know better?
[14:08] <gnomefreak> samfreed: try to rename it back to how it was and try changing permissions on the folder recursively
[14:08] <samfreed> changing how? 777 ?
[14:08] <gnomefreak> samfreed: mine does i spent 3 days working on it to not do that
[14:08] <gnomefreak> yes
[14:08] <samfreed> that's a bit dramatic. All the files in the hierarchy are owned by "sam".
[14:09] <gnomefreak> samfreed: use mv ~/.mozilla-thunderbird.old ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[14:09] <gnomefreak> samfreed: not if you used sudo or su or ran it from term when you were in root term
[14:10] <gnomefreak> root now owns the dir.
[14:10] <samfreed> sam@v200:~$ find .mozilla-thunderbird -user root -print
[14:10] <samfreed> sam@v200:~$ find .mozilla-thunderbird ! -user sam -print
[14:10] <samfreed> sam@v200:~$
[14:10] <samfreed> nope. sam does.
[14:10] <vish> gnomefreak: if he ran thunderbird as root , would it have been just the root thunderbird profile... ?  if he reopens if from his account should it work?
[14:11] <vish> shouldnt*
[14:11] <samfreed> I would guess it _should_......
[14:11] <gnomefreak> vish: if its like firefox no
[14:11] <gnomefreak> if it should rename it back and try using launcher or a non-root term
[14:12] <vish> gnomefreak: hmm , weird for me even for firefox i can run as root and my user separately
[14:12] <gnomefreak> vish: unless it was changed in 3.6 it never did
[14:12] <gnomefreak> at least AFAIR
[14:13] <samfreed> I guess I can just reconfigure everything afresh in a new .mozilla-thunderbrid, and then move my LocalFolders acress, but that is fugly.
[14:13] <gnomefreak> thats why we close bugs and tell them to use new profile :)
[14:13] <vish> its been that way since a long time for me :s  .. i could have 2 firefox's running like that
[14:13] <gnomefreak> samfreed: did you rename it back to orig and try launching it from launcher?
[14:13] <gnomefreak> vish: same profile?
[14:14] <vish> gnomefreak: oh , no.. one for root and one as mine
[14:14] <gnomefreak> vish: my point :)
[14:14] <vish> ah :)
[14:14] <samfreed> Yes, no Email accounts or local folders, NOTHING. and panacea.dat is much shorter than a few days ago (backp).
[14:14] <samfreed> using the old "panaea.dat" did not help.
[14:14] <gnomefreak> there should never be a reason to run non-root apps with root
[14:15] <samfreed> there is at least one valid reason - "Human Error".
[14:15] <vish> gnomefreak: yeah.. it mostly opened when root daemons crashed.. mostly i wouldnt open it intentionally ;)
[14:15] <gnomefreak> that could cause it. stop crashing things :)
[14:15] <vish> apport _used to_ open the root firefox
[14:16] <samfreed> Anyhow - What's the recommendation?
[14:16] <samfreed> switch to evolution <duck>
[14:16] <gnomefreak> samfreed: everyhting in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird is owned by root so either try to set as user or start over
[14:17] <samfreed> it ISNT. It's all owned by "sam". Its odd, but true.
[14:17] <gnomefreak> samfreed: ok so use it than
[14:17] <samfreed> sam@v200:~$ find .mozilla-thunderbird -user root -print
[14:17] <samfreed> sam@v200:~$ find .mozilla-thunderbird ! -user sam -print
[14:17] <samfreed> but no accounts in the GUI.
[14:17] <samfreed> and panacea is short.
[14:19]  * gnomefreak goes for smoke than back to op duty :(
[14:25] <gnomefreak> someone should have told him ~/.mozilla-thunderbird is not the profile
[14:37] <fta> BUGabundo, dupe
[14:37] <BUGabundo> orly?
[14:37] <BUGabundo> couldn't find one
[14:39] <BUGabundo> fta: have you updated your identica subcription of my remote profile?
[14:41] <fta> er, nope
[14:42] <BUGabundo> :(
[14:51] <fta> how would i know?
[14:56] <BUGabundo> cause I've been telling ppl about it for 8 mohts?
[14:56] <BUGabundo> please sub to https://mi.BUGabundo.net
[14:58] <fta> BUGabundo, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=36151  could you please try with the version in lucid or the beta ppa?
[14:58] <BUGabundo> sur
[14:59] <BUGabundo> aint that my dupe?
[15:01] <BUGabundo> fta: so just $ chr --sync ?
[15:01] <fta> nope, without, but with -beta (or -dev)
[15:02] <BUGabundo> crashed
[15:02] <BUGabundo> with sync
[15:02] <fta> hm, i snap on greader
[15:02] <fta> reload worked. weird
[15:03] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/380402/http://paste.ubuntu.com/380402/
[15:03] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/380402/
[15:03] <BUGabundo> I got a few snaps too
[15:03] <BUGabundo> seems to happen after upgrades
[15:05] <BUGabundo> hee
[15:05] <BUGabundo> it  crashes with just ONE tab too
[15:06] <BUGabundo> ^opened tab^
[19:06] <kenvandine> fta, mind if i upgrade the bzr format to 2a in the packaging branch for the dailies?
[19:06] <kenvandine> i can't merge the packaging changes back from lucid into it with it :/
[19:09] <asac> kenvandine: yes
[19:10] <asac> we dont want to go for stuff that doesnt work in hardy
[19:10] <asac> kenvandine: just dont branch stuff into a 2a format
[19:10] <kenvandine> eww... ok
[19:10] <asac> imo HUUUUGE mistake that bzr folks bump defaults that early
[19:10] <kenvandine> i'll manually merge the difference
[19:10] <asac> kenvandine: packaging changes from lucid?
[19:10] <kenvandine> we upgraded the gwibber one because everyone was getting segfaults from bzr
[19:11] <kenvandine> which was fixed in 2a :/
[19:11] <asac> thats a bad decision :(
[19:11] <kenvandine> yeah, split the themes into a separate package
[19:11] <asac> i dont care. i dont even know whats going on, but i certainly dont want any important branches to be on 2a
[19:11] <kenvandine> lots of them are now
[19:11] <kenvandine> but i have no preference
[19:12] <asac> anyone doing it is not better than any program author that just on latest api crack
[19:12] <kenvandine> gwibber trunk had to get upgrade so people could actually branch it
[19:12] <asac> they do bad to the whole linux ecosystem
[19:12] <asac> kenvandine: sure this wasnt just the case with the bzr version in lucid or karmic or something?
[19:13] <kenvandine> yeah, it wasn't
[19:13] <asac> so just one version?
[19:13] <kenvandine> they said it was a bug that the fix for was in the 2a format
[19:13] <kenvandine> bug in the repository format or some non-sense
[19:13] <asac> bzr still sucks :(
[19:13] <asac> you cannot go and evangelize its use if something like that happens
[19:13] <kenvandine> look hours to upgrade the format for gwibber trunk
[19:13] <kenvandine> which sucked
[19:13] <kenvandine> during the sprint
[19:14] <kenvandine> when people couldn't check it out
[19:14] <asac> lets hope 2a is the final format
[19:14] <asac> this format madness just is bad
[19:15] <asac> anyway. for gwibber packaging brnach i have no strong opinion
[19:15] <asac> if lp:gwibber had to go there, then there is probably no sense keeping it back
[19:15] <asac> also gwibber cannot be used on hardy anyways ;)
[19:16] <kenvandine> true... unless you want to backport lots
[19:16] <kenvandine> ok... so go ahead and upgrade it?
[19:16] <asac> kenvandine: wait for fta... he needs to upgrade the daily local bfanches
[19:16] <asac> otherwise the merge will fail too
[19:16] <kenvandine> sure
[19:16] <kenvandine> ok... fta: whenever your around... let me know
[19:17] <kenvandine> i'll be afk but will read scrollback
[19:17] <kenvandine> thx
[19:17] <asac> kenvandine: btw, gwibber doesnt show any notificatio natm ;)
[19:17] <asac> atm
[19:17] <kenvandine> none?
[19:17] <asac> zero
[19:17] <asac> yes
[19:17] <kenvandine> is it enabled ? :)
[19:17] <asac> its enabled in preferences
[19:17] <kenvandine> rick thought he wasn't...
[19:17] <kenvandine> but then noticed he had "notifications for mentions only" checked
[19:17] <asac> yes
[19:18] <asac> that setting is bogus ;)
[19:18] <asac> seems i had the same
[19:18] <asac> let me see
[19:18] <kenvandine> ah :)
[19:18]  * kenvandine checks the default
[19:18] <kenvandine> ah, that is enabled by default
[19:18] <kenvandine> not sure i agree with that
[19:18] <kenvandine> there was lots of debate
[19:18] <asac> kenvandine: why is there a menu at all?
[19:18] <asac> rather than just a toolbar?
[19:18] <fta> ?
[19:19] <asac> its quite empty
[19:19] <asac> fta: kenvandine wants to upgrade gwibber packaging branch to latest crack format 2a
[19:19] <asac> fta: read scrollback (minus my rants)
[19:19] <kenvandine> asac, *wants* is rather strong :)
[19:19] <kenvandine> it would let me merge changes to it
[19:19] <kenvandine> or i could manually merge it
[19:19] <kenvandine> in which case bzr loses :)
[19:20] <asac> kenvandine: isnt the packaging branch a package only branch?
[19:20] <asac> kenvandine: e.g. why is that an issue at all?
[19:20] <kenvandine> yeah... it is
[19:20] <asac> then the problem is just that you upgraded locally ;)
[19:20] <kenvandine> but the ~ubuntu-destop one is also 2a
[19:20] <kenvandine> not sure why...
[19:20] <asac> kenvandine: who pushed that?
[19:20] <kenvandine> pitti might have
[19:20] <kenvandine> not sure... most of the ubuntu-desktop ones are 2a i think
[19:20] <asac> in that case i would manually do the changes ;)
[19:21] <kenvandine> pitti has upgraded a bunch of mine :)
[19:21] <asac> and overwrite the desktop branch
[19:21] <asac> yeah
[19:21] <asac> i dont care
[19:21] <asac> i will ask him eventually why he is so bad ;)
[19:21] <asac> ah ... there is a notification
[19:22] <kenvandine> i think the thing is having a mix of formats sucks
[19:22] <asac> i asked for a bzr feature to prevent upgrades
[19:22] <asac> like the "only commit on top"
[19:22] <asac> but they said they dont want to prevent these problems
[19:22] <kenvandine> the bzr folks swear 2a is final and more stable
[19:23] <asac> the "a" doesnt feel that promissing ;)
[19:23] <kenvandine> haha
[19:23] <kenvandine> i'll manually merge the changes later today/tonight
[19:23] <kenvandine> gotta head outside and enjoy this beautiful weather
[19:23] <kenvandine> :)
[19:23] <asac> thats much better i guess
[19:23] <asac> (outside)
[19:24] <kenvandine> 60F and sunny
[19:24] <kenvandine> later!
[22:39] <LLStarks> asac. why is google about:home a google custom search?