[00:00] yea i added those three to glib [00:00] also gpoll? [00:00] yea [00:00] was that needed? [00:00] e.g. does it use local state from main? [00:00] gpoll sort of existed in glib before but not the function, the GPollFD bits already were there [00:00] ok. if its just an addition its probably ok [00:00] can you publish clean patches ;) [00:01] ok ... so and now you have issues with gnutls [00:01] ? [00:01] it seems to only do: return poll ((struct pollfd *)fds, nfds, timeout); [00:01] and the pollfd already existed in old version [00:01] yeah. thats safe [00:01] have you checke if pollfd struct changed? [00:01] yea gnutls needs a priority function for setting which cipher to use [00:01] oh i need to verify that part yea [00:01] better double check [00:02] but will review too, so we should be safe ;) [00:02] does not appear to have changed, no [00:02] ok. good [00:02] ccheney: whats the prob with priority func? [00:02] the old priority system was completely different it seems, i have to create a shim to it i think [00:03] hopefully its doable without breaking abi [00:03] soup has a bug reference to this about it: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=581342 [00:03] Gnome bug 581342 in HTTP Transport "gnutls problems with SSL3 compat" [Normal,Reopened] [00:05] ccheney: what is gnutls needed for? [00:06] ccheney: oh right. so what i think is that we should fix the soup side to use the old priority stuff [00:06] rather than introducing the new one [00:06] ccheney: or is that priority model directly exposed by libsoup to its clients? [00:07] http://people.canonical.com/~ccheney/glib2.0-backport.diff [00:07] chromium can be annoying ;) [00:07] asac: not sure yet, need to look closer at how it is used [00:08] if its not exported i can look at what the old soup does in the function and revert that part probably [00:09] right [00:09] thats the idea [00:10] fine ... [00:14] yea looks like i can just revert that one line [00:15] asac: still experiencing audio problems with current Lucid? [00:15] so now on to webkit :) [00:16] well i have to finish cleaning up the packaging side of soup but that should be trivial [00:16] hmm well now it fails weird [00:16] * ccheney retries the build again [00:17] * ccheney hates packages that can't be rebuilt after running clean target [00:21] grr [00:21] * ccheney looks to see if he somehow reverted the disable gnome bits [00:22] libtool: link: cannot find the library `../../libsoup/libsoup-gnome-2.4.la' or unhandled argument `../../libsoup/libsoup-gnome-2.4.la' [00:22] stupid pos [00:22] i turned off gnome already [00:23] oops [00:23] i didn't turn off the gtk-doc's though which don't complain if you have without-gnome turned on [00:26] works except for assumption gnome is being built for the control file, i guess the maintainer really didn't want it to be easily bootstrappable [00:29] ok it built fine! :) [00:30] have to go get dinner or i will have a mutiny on my hands, ttys :) [01:39] crimsun: still there? [01:40] crimsun: i think my problems are only about alsamixer settings being reset randonmly [01:40] well ... changed randomly [01:40] after reboots [01:40] also its odd, but now alsamixer has effect on sound [01:40] while it didnt have any effect in karmic ... hope thats a fixed feature ;) [01:41] ... but can be confusing as my case shows [01:54] fortunately, i pinned those packages [01:54] eh [01:54] sound working fine here [01:55] just not audio indicator [02:14] regression in nautilus [02:15] try to drag something from a folder or from the desktop, ugly solid square [02:37] kenvandine: how do I check error logs in the new gwibber? [02:38] other statusnet servers aren't outputting anything [02:38] I would like to debug it [06:58] oh hell no [06:59] asac. we are not using google custom homepage for the people who reject yahoo. [06:59] this won't do. [07:00] i find it shocking that this was even considered after the debacle during the karmic cycle. [10:36] MORNINGGGGGGG cocoroco [10:55] fta detaching a tab, makes chromium daily crash [11:00] fta: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=36332 [12:46] didnt we plan on making Jaunty Firefox unversioned? === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_FEDWS === BUGabundo_FEDWS is now known as BUGabundo [13:58] Thunderbird lost all accounts after I used it under sudo by mistake. HELP! [13:59] samfreed: new profile [13:59] samfreed: only way to really fix it nicely [13:59] how do I re-get my old accounts? [13:59] (mostly imap) [13:59] it tries a new profine anyhow, righ? [14:00] samfreed: they should still show up if you rename old profile [14:00] _should_ [14:00] how do I rename the old profile? [14:00] samfreed: tb2? [14:01] tb2? I don't understand. [14:01] thunderbird-2? [14:01] I run two thunderbirds in the same time? [14:01] samfreed: what version do you have? [14:02] karmic, 2.0.0.23+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 [14:02] samfreed: how did you start thunderbird ? sudo thunderbird? [14:02] sudo bash, and then "thunderbird".... [14:03] panacea.dat is MUCH smaller than in my backup [14:03] ok than run "mv ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/.mozilla-thunderbird.old [14:03] samfreed: did you close thunderbird after that? and open thunderbird from the menu? [14:03] vish: permissions should stay there if he used sudo or su [14:04] I closed it, and re-started it from my user, "sam. [14:04] gnomefreak: if I move it all aside, how do I re-get my local folders? just move 'em accross after I reconfigure all the imaps? [14:05] samfreed: just rename it and thunderbird will open as you had it only with new permissions [14:05] why is my damn sound not working still [14:05] gnomefreak: Trying... [14:06] ah now sound works :) you have to go into prefereces to unmute it the indicator will not unmute it for you when you use the sound bar :( [14:06] crimsun: ^^^ [14:06] import..... - should I import? [14:07] samfreed: it starts over again? [14:07] it starts like brand-new, it wants to import. [14:07] so im the only one on earth that it doesnt start over again :( [14:08] all the settings are in .mozilla-thunderbird , so how should it know better? [14:08] samfreed: try to rename it back to how it was and try changing permissions on the folder recursively [14:08] changing how? 777 ? [14:08] samfreed: mine does i spent 3 days working on it to not do that [14:08] yes [14:08] that's a bit dramatic. All the files in the hierarchy are owned by "sam". [14:09] samfreed: use mv ~/.mozilla-thunderbird.old ~/.mozilla-thunderbird [14:09] samfreed: not if you used sudo or su or ran it from term when you were in root term [14:10] root now owns the dir. [14:10] sam@v200:~$ find .mozilla-thunderbird -user root -print [14:10] sam@v200:~$ find .mozilla-thunderbird ! -user sam -print [14:10] sam@v200:~$ [14:10] nope. sam does. [14:10] gnomefreak: if he ran thunderbird as root , would it have been just the root thunderbird profile... ? if he reopens if from his account should it work? [14:11] shouldnt* [14:11] I would guess it _should_...... [14:11] vish: if its like firefox no [14:11] if it should rename it back and try using launcher or a non-root term [14:12] gnomefreak: hmm , weird for me even for firefox i can run as root and my user separately [14:12] vish: unless it was changed in 3.6 it never did [14:12] at least AFAIR [14:13] I guess I can just reconfigure everything afresh in a new .mozilla-thunderbrid, and then move my LocalFolders acress, but that is fugly. [14:13] thats why we close bugs and tell them to use new profile :) [14:13] its been that way since a long time for me :s .. i could have 2 firefox's running like that [14:13] samfreed: did you rename it back to orig and try launching it from launcher? [14:13] vish: same profile? [14:14] gnomefreak: oh , no.. one for root and one as mine [14:14] vish: my point :) [14:14] ah :) [14:14] Yes, no Email accounts or local folders, NOTHING. and panacea.dat is much shorter than a few days ago (backp). [14:14] using the old "panaea.dat" did not help. [14:14] there should never be a reason to run non-root apps with root [14:15] there is at least one valid reason - "Human Error". [14:15] gnomefreak: yeah.. it mostly opened when root daemons crashed.. mostly i wouldnt open it intentionally ;) [14:15] that could cause it. stop crashing things :) [14:15] apport _used to_ open the root firefox [14:16] Anyhow - What's the recommendation? [14:16] switch to evolution [14:16] samfreed: everyhting in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird is owned by root so either try to set as user or start over [14:17] it ISNT. It's all owned by "sam". Its odd, but true. [14:17] samfreed: ok so use it than [14:17] sam@v200:~$ find .mozilla-thunderbird -user root -print [14:17] sam@v200:~$ find .mozilla-thunderbird ! -user sam -print [14:17] but no accounts in the GUI. [14:17] and panacea is short. [14:19] * gnomefreak goes for smoke than back to op duty :( [14:25] someone should have told him ~/.mozilla-thunderbird is not the profile [14:37] BUGabundo, dupe [14:37] orly? [14:37] couldn't find one [14:39] fta: have you updated your identica subcription of my remote profile? [14:41] er, nope [14:42] :( [14:51] how would i know? [14:56] cause I've been telling ppl about it for 8 mohts? [14:56] please sub to https://mi.BUGabundo.net [14:58] BUGabundo, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=36151 could you please try with the version in lucid or the beta ppa? [14:58] sur [14:59] aint that my dupe? [15:01] fta: so just $ chr --sync ? [15:01] nope, without, but with -beta (or -dev) [15:02] crashed [15:02] with sync [15:02] hm, i snap on greader [15:02] reload worked. weird [15:03] http://paste.ubuntu.com/380402/http://paste.ubuntu.com/380402/ [15:03] http://paste.ubuntu.com/380402/ [15:03] I got a few snaps too [15:03] seems to happen after upgrades [15:05] hee [15:05] it crashes with just ONE tab too [15:06] ^opened tab^ [19:06] fta, mind if i upgrade the bzr format to 2a in the packaging branch for the dailies? [19:06] i can't merge the packaging changes back from lucid into it with it :/ [19:09] kenvandine: yes [19:10] we dont want to go for stuff that doesnt work in hardy [19:10] kenvandine: just dont branch stuff into a 2a format [19:10] eww... ok [19:10] imo HUUUUGE mistake that bzr folks bump defaults that early [19:10] i'll manually merge the difference [19:10] kenvandine: packaging changes from lucid? [19:10] we upgraded the gwibber one because everyone was getting segfaults from bzr [19:11] which was fixed in 2a :/ [19:11] thats a bad decision :( [19:11] yeah, split the themes into a separate package [19:11] i dont care. i dont even know whats going on, but i certainly dont want any important branches to be on 2a [19:11] lots of them are now [19:11] but i have no preference [19:12] anyone doing it is not better than any program author that just on latest api crack [19:12] gwibber trunk had to get upgrade so people could actually branch it [19:12] they do bad to the whole linux ecosystem [19:12] kenvandine: sure this wasnt just the case with the bzr version in lucid or karmic or something? [19:13] yeah, it wasn't [19:13] so just one version? [19:13] they said it was a bug that the fix for was in the 2a format [19:13] bug in the repository format or some non-sense [19:13] bzr still sucks :( [19:13] you cannot go and evangelize its use if something like that happens [19:13] look hours to upgrade the format for gwibber trunk [19:13] which sucked [19:13] during the sprint [19:14] when people couldn't check it out [19:14] lets hope 2a is the final format [19:14] this format madness just is bad [19:15] anyway. for gwibber packaging brnach i have no strong opinion [19:15] if lp:gwibber had to go there, then there is probably no sense keeping it back [19:15] also gwibber cannot be used on hardy anyways ;) [19:16] true... unless you want to backport lots [19:16] ok... so go ahead and upgrade it? [19:16] kenvandine: wait for fta... he needs to upgrade the daily local bfanches [19:16] otherwise the merge will fail too [19:16] sure [19:16] ok... fta: whenever your around... let me know [19:17] i'll be afk but will read scrollback [19:17] thx [19:17] kenvandine: btw, gwibber doesnt show any notificatio natm ;) [19:17] atm [19:17] none? [19:17] zero [19:17] yes [19:17] is it enabled ? :) [19:17] its enabled in preferences [19:17] rick thought he wasn't... [19:17] but then noticed he had "notifications for mentions only" checked [19:17] yes [19:18] that setting is bogus ;) [19:18] seems i had the same [19:18] let me see [19:18] ah :) [19:18] * kenvandine checks the default [19:18] ah, that is enabled by default [19:18] not sure i agree with that [19:18] there was lots of debate [19:18] kenvandine: why is there a menu at all? [19:18] rather than just a toolbar? [19:18] ? [19:19] its quite empty [19:19] fta: kenvandine wants to upgrade gwibber packaging branch to latest crack format 2a [19:19] fta: read scrollback (minus my rants) [19:19] asac, *wants* is rather strong :) [19:19] it would let me merge changes to it [19:19] or i could manually merge it [19:19] in which case bzr loses :) [19:20] kenvandine: isnt the packaging branch a package only branch? [19:20] kenvandine: e.g. why is that an issue at all? [19:20] yeah... it is [19:20] then the problem is just that you upgraded locally ;) [19:20] but the ~ubuntu-destop one is also 2a [19:20] not sure why... [19:20] kenvandine: who pushed that? [19:20] pitti might have [19:20] not sure... most of the ubuntu-desktop ones are 2a i think [19:20] in that case i would manually do the changes ;) [19:21] pitti has upgraded a bunch of mine :) [19:21] and overwrite the desktop branch [19:21] yeah [19:21] i dont care [19:21] i will ask him eventually why he is so bad ;) [19:21] ah ... there is a notification [19:22] i think the thing is having a mix of formats sucks [19:22] i asked for a bzr feature to prevent upgrades [19:22] like the "only commit on top" [19:22] but they said they dont want to prevent these problems [19:22] the bzr folks swear 2a is final and more stable [19:23] the "a" doesnt feel that promissing ;) [19:23] haha [19:23] i'll manually merge the changes later today/tonight [19:23] gotta head outside and enjoy this beautiful weather [19:23] :) [19:23] thats much better i guess [19:23] (outside) [19:24] 60F and sunny [19:24] later! [22:39] asac. why is google about:home a google custom search?