[00:14] <Cappy> if i installed ubuntu SE from a Cd, the Cd should be in the repos list by default shouldnt it?
[00:32] <genii> my fibre-optic nic ethtool query shows it's capabilities as 1000 base T which is a copper-based standard. e1000 driver. Any way to tell it to use something else?
[00:38] <Cappy> can someone suggest a tool to manage wireless networks via command line?
[00:58] <nOStahl> hi guys. how tuff is it to setup my first ubuntu cloud server. (few years of at home linux use under my belt)
[01:08] <nOStahl> having hard time finding documentation for setup guides
[01:08] <nOStahl> anyone have a good link to getting a basic cloud setup
[01:11] <d4n1> sup
[01:11] <d4n1> anybody here
[01:11] <d4n1> i need help whith my ntp server
[01:14] <nOStahl> woot downloading the img now
[01:14] <nOStahl> for my first cloud setup!
[01:16] <nOStahl> if your server controller is 64 bit
[01:16] <nOStahl> can you run 64bit images on non 64bit nodes
[01:50] <JanC> nOStahl: with one server there isn't much of a "cloud"...  ;)
[01:51] <JanC> (but I guess you know that already, as you're talking about controller & nodes further on)
[01:52] <nOStahl> aye just working on getting all the peices in order right now
[01:53] <nOStahl> hrmm nostahl@nostahl-laptop:~/.euca$ . ~/.euca/euca2-*/eucarc
[01:53] <nOStahl> bash: /home/nostahl/.euca/euca2-*/eucarc: No such file or directory
[01:53] <nOStahl> following documents on eucalyptus website
[01:57] <nOStahl> janC you got a nice juicy link that has a good n00b guide heh
[02:03] <ChmEarl> trying to access guest console using virsh in host:virsh console <guest> . However this guide says I need to edit inittab. Server has it or not?
[02:09] <nOStahl> hrmm
[02:11] <ChmEarl> oh, can I create /etc/init/ttyS0.conf ? and add the required line?
[02:11] <ChmEarl> T0:S12345:respawn:/sbin/getty -hL ttyS0 115200 vt100
[02:13] <nOStahl> how do i source the euca file
[02:14] <nOStahl> not finding any good documentation
[02:17] <lifeless> . ~/.euca/eucarc
[02:17] <lifeless> or whatever
[02:17] <lifeless> 'source' means ". filename"
[02:17] <nOStahl> k
[03:05] <jpds> 1
[03:07] <Cappy> hrmm i have a netgear nic installed in a machine im trying to setup as a ubuntu-server and for some reason its not detecting my dhcp from the router.
[03:08] <genii> 2
[03:47] <ChmEarl>  sudo socat - /dev/pts/1   I can see the boot messages of my kvm guest from the host. Is this a read only tty?
[04:09] <Cappy> this might be a very noob question, but i have just completed an install of ubuntu-server, installed webmin and rebooted, now typing http://servername:10000 from another machine on the network, i get an error. also pinging servername tells me the host can not be found
[04:10] <Cappy> all my machines have DHCP addresses from my router
[04:10] <ChmEarl> Cappy, in servername /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[04:11] <Cappy> hrmm sorry, for some reason hostnames are recognised. i can get in via the ip address
[04:13] <Cappy> would enabling the dns server in tasksel help with that? then tell my router to use my new ubuntu server for dns?
[04:24] <DanDare> Hello. Security updates are in sync with Debian ones ? I´m new to Ubuntu trying to understand how they are close how they are different etc
[04:24] <lifeless> we have our own security team
[04:24] <lifeless> I believe they work together
[04:24] <lifeless> with the debian security team
[04:25] <DanDare> I see... thanks
[04:43] <ElllisD> why's a fresh install of ubuntu server 9.10 refuse to let me connect via ssh?
[04:47] <Cappy> anyone know of a channel that i can talk about DNS in? im a noob (already proven) and i need some help
[04:48] <ElllisD> ##networking
[04:54] <nOStahl> you guys gotta check this  vid out
[04:54] <nOStahl> i like the presentation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJncFirhjPg&feature=related
[04:56] <AdamDV> nOStahl: Watching now.
[04:57] <nOStahl> i will have to adopt that film technique for some of my how-to videos deffinently
[05:00]  * ball can't play youtubes.
[05:02] <DanDare> ElllisD, maybe you need to install ssh service first ?
[05:04] <ElllisD> DanDare: thanks- I had assumed it was there- "ssh: unrecognized service" lol
[05:05] <DanDare> :)
[05:05] <ElllisD> 369k installed- sweeet
[05:05] <DanDare> it was there... as unrecognized service... j/k
[05:05] <ElllisD> :)
[05:06] <ElllisD> "-bash: syntax error near unexpected token `)'"
[05:06] <ElllisD> can't say smiley to the shell
[05:06] <ElllisD> :)
[05:06] <nOStahl> :)
[05:07] <ElllisD> http://www.nature-one.de/events/nature-one/
[05:07] <nOStahl> any of you guys running cloud
[05:07] <AdamDV> nOStahl: Yea
[05:07] <ElllisD> <--- my own. Too cheap to pay
[05:07] <AdamDV> Trying to get one setup
[05:08] <ElllisD> where
[05:08] <AdamDV> Great video
[05:08] <ElllisD> ?
[05:08] <nOStahl> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJncFirhjPg&feature=related
[05:08] <nOStahl> that's the vid
[05:08] <AdamDV> I'm starting a cloud web hosting company
[05:08] <nOStahl> where at adam
[05:08] <AdamDV> http://go-techo.com
[05:08] <Cappy> is there a command line tool to scan and connect to wifi networks?
[05:09] <AdamDV> Cappy: Look into snort
[05:09] <nOStahl> iwlist
[05:09] <DanDare> I have my own clouds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4fJjBTwOEc
[05:09] <DanDare> zoneminder ftw
[05:09] <AdamDV> Haha
[05:09] <AdamDV> IMAP in the cloud = a PITA
[05:10] <Cappy> thanks
[05:10] <nOStahl> how many nodes will you have adam
[05:10] <AdamDV> Quite a Few
[05:11] <AdamDV> Probably start with 5 or so, expand up to a couple thousand
[05:11] <AdamDV> Still working it all out.
[05:11] <AdamDV> We will do shared, vps, and cloud hosting
[05:11] <DanDare> good night gents
[05:11] <nOStahl> how much for vps
[05:11] <AdamDV> As well as web design, a social network, collaboration suite.
[05:11] <swift> guys, what is postfix used for?.. on ubuntu-server?
[05:11] <AdamDV> nOStahl: Anywhere from $5/m to $100/m
[05:11] <nOStahl> email
[05:12] <AdamDV> swift: Email
[05:12] <swift> ok, so postfix running means, the server is a mail server?
[05:12] <AdamDV> swift: It is used to accept mail from the internet, and send mail to the internet. It is usualy used in collaboration with dovecot, to deliver mail locally.
[05:12] <nOStahl> 5 dollars a month for vps access nice
[05:12] <AdamDV> Yea, I think its a good price.
[05:12] <AdamDV> Burstable bandwidth and resources too.
[05:12] <swift> ok thanks!!
[05:12] <nOStahl> prices comming down for vps cause of cloud now?
[05:13] <AdamDV> swift: Not necessarily.
[05:13] <Cappy> AdamDV, is it safe to go with default options with snort, or should i customise from the start?
[05:13] <AdamDV> Cappy: No idea, sorry.
[05:13] <Cappy> AdamDV, np, thanks anyway
[05:13] <AdamDV> nOStahl: Actually, I think they will rise.
[05:13] <AdamDV> As people will be using VPS's as nodes.
[05:13] <AdamDV> We offer managed and unmanaged vps hosting.
[05:14] <AdamDV> But, I have to compete with a couple companys, so $5 is pretty god.
[05:14] <nOStahl> ya
[05:14] <AdamDV> Specs aren't great, but theyre not bad either.
[05:14] <nOStahl> cheapest ive seen iis 19
[05:14] <AdamDV> http://fivebean.com
[05:14] <AdamDV> Run by Ryan, from UF.
[05:14] <AdamDV> I like linode for the important ones, theyre pretty good.
[05:14] <nOStahl> aye
[05:15] <nOStahl> i hate email server setup
[05:15] <AdamDV> I dont mind it
[05:15] <nOStahl> you could make a living just setting up email servers for people lmao
[05:15] <AdamDV> You just have to get used to it
[05:15] <nOStahl> aye
[05:15] <AdamDV> I like getting the setup working 100%
[05:15] <nOStahl> like everything else
[05:15] <AdamDV> SpamAssassin trained, dovecot and postfix secured, ssl setup, etc.
[05:15] <AdamDV> Its quite a lengthy process.
[05:16] <AdamDV> I usually train SA for at least 2 months before making a server live.
[05:16] <AdamDV> Coding an Imap client in PHP to round robin accross a bunch of serers is harder, trust me.
[05:16] <AdamDV> Especially when your 14 and have to keep up with school :|
[05:17] <nOStahl> ahead of the curve
[05:17] <nOStahl> keep with it
[05:17] <nOStahl> i wasnt into the backend of computers as much when i was younger
[05:17] <nOStahl> i was building hovercrafts in woodshop
[05:17] <nOStahl> and catapults heh
[05:18] <AdamDV> Nice.
[05:18] <AdamDV> Tried building a hovercraft once.
[05:18] <AdamDV> Didn't work out so well.
[05:18] <AdamDV> Haha
[05:18] <AdamDV> brb
[05:20] <AdamDV> Alright
[05:20] <AdamDV> Yea, trying to figure out the details of cloud computing and design homebrew software is a challenge.
[05:20] <nOStahl> im thinking of setting up my 3 laptops and 1 desktop in the house as a cloud setup
[05:21] <AdamDV> And I'm debating Debian vs. Ubuntu vs. CentOS (Cuurently using CentOS on all but the mail servers, where I run Debian Lenny)
[05:21] <nOStahl> there all spares heh
[05:21] <AdamDV> nOStahl: Couldn't hurt to try.
[05:21] <AdamDV> How do you have all those as spares? ~.-
[05:22] <nOStahl> i use an eeepc 901 as my main computer now
[05:22] <nOStahl> so i have a few newer full size notebooks
[05:22] <nOStahl> and an older desktop
[05:22] <AdamDV> Nice
[05:22] <AdamDV> I use an aspire one as my main
[05:22] <nOStahl> try moblin yet
[05:22] <AdamDV> Theyre nice because theyre super portable
[05:23] <nOStahl> boots 4 seconds on my 901
[05:23] <AdamDV> Havent tried moblin, tried jolicloud.
[05:23] <AdamDV> Didn't like it.
[05:23] <AdamDV> Felt restricted.
[05:23] <nOStahl> aye
[05:23] <AdamDV> Prefer a full install.
[05:23] <nOStahl> moblin's still alpha
[05:23] <AdamDV> Yea
[05:23] <swift> guys, what does 'dmesg' exactly give?
[05:23] <nOStahl> but it'll be nice when its full blown
[05:23] <swift> i know it's a kinda log
[05:23] <swift> but what messages will it display
[05:23] <nOStahl> it lets you know what the computers thinking in a ways
[05:23] <AdamDV> Yea, be nice once it hits beta.
[05:24] <nOStahl> ie what drive you just plugged in
[05:24] <AdamDV> swift: dmesg is basically an action log for the computer.
[05:24] <AdamDV> Like:
[05:24] <AdamDV> 10:10:09 : Found new drive /dev/sda1
[05:24] <AdamDV> 10:10:10 : /dev/sda1 mounted to /media/USBDISK
[05:24] <swift> so, it just displays logs
[05:24] <swift> ?
[05:24] <AdamDV> It writes to logs, and stdouts to the terminal is optional, yes.
[05:25]  * AdamDV bangs head
[05:25] <AdamDV> Php+Imap+Break=BAD.
[05:25] <swift> thanks!
[05:25] <AdamDV> No problem
[05:27] <AdamDV> I'm worried canonical is on the path to the next microsoft
[05:27]  * AdamDV ducks and runs for cover
[05:28] <nOStahl> atleast it wont cost 300 for new versions :P
[05:28] <AdamDV> Haha, true.
[05:29] <nOStahl> i like ubuntu heh, when i was running arch linux alot i could always find a guide for ubuntu and translate it into arch
[05:30] <AdamDV> I love the usability of Ubuntu
[05:30] <AdamDV> I dont love how it seems to be starting to get chopped up.
[05:30] <Cappy> i would love ubuntu more if i could get wifi going on a server install
[05:30] <AdamDV> Theyre are what, 10 different package mangement apps now?
[05:31] <AdamDV> Cappy: Why, oh why, would you be running a server on wifi?
[05:31] <tenach> I got it to work after googling "ubuntu server wifi"
[05:31] <nOStahl> servers = eth0
[05:31] <AdamDV> Thats like complaining the olympic jogging team doesn't allow wheelchairs.
[05:31] <tenach> AdamDV: I personally use it for local testing, then disable it.  I can't have my machines physically near/both at the router.
[05:31] <Cappy> AdamDV, because its 40c outside and im not climbing around in the roof for a few months!
[05:31] <nOStahl> i thought there was only apt-get :P
[05:31] <nOStahl> who needs gui package management
[05:32] <AdamDV> nOStashl: Well, lets see: Ubuntu Software Center, Package Updater, Package Updater Preferences, Add/Remove, Synaptic, Gdebi.
[05:32] <AdamDV> Combine them all into one.
[05:32] <AdamDV> I prefer the terminal for 90% of things.
[05:32] <nOStahl> aye
[05:32] <AdamDV> But, its nice to e able to have everything done in one application.
[05:32] <AdamDV> Group the apps.
[05:32] <nOStahl> i like update-manger though
[05:32] <AdamDV> I do too.
[05:32] <nOStahl> that one i do like
[05:32] <Cappy> this is another issue, when im logged on to the machine, i keep getting messages like "* Reloading /etc/samba/smb.conf smbd only"
[05:33] <AdamDV> But, it would be nicer if apt-url, gdebi, and update-manager were all built into USC
[05:33] <AdamDV> Cappy: You logged in as root?
[05:33] <Cappy> nope, logged in as my regular user
[05:33] <AdamDV> And, are you reloading samba?
[05:33] <Cappy> not reloading anything, just sitting at a prompt
[05:34] <AdamDV> Do this:
[05:34] <AdamDV> crontab -e
[05:34] <AdamDV> sudo crontab -e
[05:34] <AdamDV> See if theres anything relating to samba in there.
[05:34] <AdamDV> That broadcasts to the terminal or that prints to stdout
[05:34] <AdamDV> (?)
[05:34] <Cappy> nope, nothing, just an entry about deleting the webmin temp files
[05:34] <AdamDV> Great success! Got my little IMAP thing working!
[05:35] <AdamDV> Cappy: Heh, try #samba ?
[05:35] <Cappy> nah its cool
[05:35] <nOStahl> so with cloud can you run games via wine over the cloud
[05:35] <nOStahl> and ramp up the nodes? :P
[05:35] <AdamDV> That's going to revolutionize gaming
[05:35] <Cappy> im more interested getting this wifi working
[05:35] <AdamDV> Cant blame it on the lag anymore.
[05:35] <AdamDV> lol
[05:36] <nOStahl> heh
[05:36] <nOStahl> imagine having 4 or 5 computers all playing your game
[05:36] <AdamDV> Yea
[05:36] <AdamDV> It'd be nice
[05:36] <AdamDV> I'm gonna laugh once quantum computers is figured out
[05:36] <AdamDV> I laugh at intel
[05:36] <AdamDV> ANd theyre 'dual cores'
[05:37] <AdamDV> bullshit. Theyre virtualized cores. AMD make REAL cores.
[05:37] <AdamDV> Anyway, </offtopic?
[05:37] <nOStahl> heh
[05:37] <nOStahl> i like intel
[05:37] <nOStahl> they give me cool stuff
[05:37] <AdamDV> Theyre high end are good for desktops.
[05:37] <AdamDV> Xeons are good for servers
[05:37] <AdamDV> Other than that, I'd reather AMD.
[05:38] <AdamDV> *rather
[05:38] <AdamDV> Also, I've got a question for the ubuntu-gurus.
[05:38] <AdamDV> What with Canonical sending out the 'your private cloud' packages
[05:38] <AdamDV> Where do we sign up?
[05:40]  * AdamDV killed the room
[05:41] <nOStahl> heh
[05:42]  * Cappy is pulling out his hair!
[05:42] <AdamDV> Cappy: Welcome to the club.
[05:42] <Cappy> my wife is going to freak if i have to tell her this computer has to stay in the kitchen
[05:43] <nOStahl> thats what wife's do
[05:44] <Cappy> thats why i want wifi on this box
[05:44] <nOStahl> whats iwconfig say
[05:44] <AdamDV> Cappy: Does it have a wifi card in it?
[05:45] <AdamDV> :P
[05:45] <Cappy> AdamDV, ohh crap i knew i must have forgotten something!
[05:45] <Cappy> =)
[05:45] <AdamDV> Haha
[05:45] <AdamDV> It wouldn't be the first time
[05:45] <AdamDV> One time in #postfix something happened like that
[05:45] <AdamDV> brb
[05:45] <Cappy> hang on a tic, i'll clear out the crap i put in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:46] <nOStahl> i wonder when moonlight project will be able to get netflix to linux
[05:46] <AdamDV> back
[05:46] <AdamDV> Yea, i #postfix, some guy comes in, we troubleshoot, then maybe 2 hours later hes like "Wait, do I have to install postfix first?"
[05:47] <nOStahl> heh
[05:47] <AdamDV> Next couple lines are usual this: mode +o user by Chanserv, mode +b *, /kick dumbuser
[05:47] <AdamDV> lol
[05:48] <Cappy> iwconfig lists a bunch of crap about the card, looks like its not seeing the ESSID etc.
[05:48] <nOStahl> type sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid any
[05:48] <nOStahl> then type iwconfig again see if it associated with any of the wifi networks around you
[05:49] <Cappy> error for wireless request "set essid" (8B1A) : SET failed on device wlan0 ; operation not permitted
[05:50] <nOStahl> did you use sudo
[05:51] <AdamDV> Alright folks
[05:51] <AdamDV> Have a good night
[05:51] <AdamDV> I'm out
[05:51] <nOStahl> adam
[05:51] <AdamDV> Yea?
[05:51] <Cappy> nope, but i have now, and its just got the essid and nothing else has changed
[05:51] <nOStahl> check me out at #gridrunneradventures when you get online again
[05:51] <Cappy> bye AdamDV , thanks!
[05:51] <nOStahl> cappy k its associated
[05:51] <AdamDV> Alright :D
[05:51] <nOStahl> now type sudo dhcpcd wlan0
[05:51] <nOStahl> and you should be done
[05:52] <Cappy> command not found
[05:52] <AdamDV> nOStahl: Its been set to autojoin ;)
[05:52] <Cappy> nOStahl, my wireless is WPA2 protected....
[05:52] <AdamDV> Have a good night :D
[05:52] <Cappy> "sudo: dhcpcd: comand not found"
[05:53] <nOStahl> cappy sudo apt-get install wireless-tools
[05:53] <Cappy> k
[05:53] <nOStahl> and goo to another computer and turn of wpa for now
[05:54] <nOStahl> cya later adam
[06:13] <Cappy> nOStahl, sorry about that
[06:14] <Cappy> i had to reboot the machine and now its halted on a bunch of errors where its 'pre-start'ing and 'post-start'ing wlan0
[06:14] <Cappy> "terminated with status 1"
[06:18] <Cappy> i cant even boot into recovery mode
[06:18] <nOStahl> weird
[06:19] <Cappy> im not getting a prompt or anything, all i can do is ctrl-alt-del to reboot
[06:20] <Cappy> hrmmm am i going to have to re install again...... 3rd time lucky maybe?
[06:24] <fabrice_sp> Hi. Any reason why we should keep mysql 5.0 and mysql 5.1 in lucid? Squeeze will be release with 5.1
[07:14] <Cappy> noi have installed wireless-tools but still get command not found when trying to do 'sudo dhcpcd wlan0'
[07:17] <lifeless> uhm
[07:17] <lifeless> dhcpd is the dhcp server
[07:17] <lifeless> not really related to wireless-tools
[07:25] <Cappy> ohh ok, well i was just going by what i was told in here earlier
[07:26] <Cappy> so i have the card associated to the network, but i just cant connect
[07:26] <lifeless> do you have a dhcp server on the network
[07:26] <Cappy> yeah, the router is looking after that
[07:26] <Cappy> the other 5 machines on the network are all working fine
[07:28] <lifeless> is your /etc/network/interfaces setup appropriately?
[07:28] <Cappy> ahh i got some tips in #ubuntu and it seems to have worked
[07:28] <lifeless> assuming you're not using network manager
[07:28] <Cappy> nope, no gui here, all cli
[07:28] <Cappy> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[07:28] <lifeless> nm can do cli, FWIW.
[07:28] <Cappy> and sudo dhclient wlan0
[07:29] <Cappy> and now i have an address associated to the wlan0 interface
[07:30] <Cappy> but i cant ping out
[07:37] <Cappy> host www.google.com - returns connection times out; no server could be reached
[07:37] <Cappy> and i get destination host unreachable when i ping my router
[07:44] <lifeless> Cappy: I suggest a read of 'man interfaces'
[08:01] <Cappy> lifeless, there are no entries in my /etc/network/interfaces
[08:01] <Cappy> not for the wlan0 anyway
[08:01] <Cappy> and after a reboot, i cant get dhclient wlan0 to fetch an addredd from the router
[08:02] <Cappy> comes back with "No DHCPOFFERS recieved, and fails again when "Trying recorded lease 192.168.0.103"
[08:04] <Cappy> bah, got it sorted now
[08:07] <Cappy> now i just have to work how how to make it persistant through reboots
[08:28] <ElllisD> what was it?
[09:13] <Cappy> ElllisD, it was the fact that i hadn't associated the network before trying to get the dhcp lease
[09:13] <Cappy> now if i can just make it persistant, i'll be right
[09:14] <ElllisD> I don't even know what it is to associate a network
[09:15] <lifeless> Cappy: you need to add entries as per the man page
[09:15] <lifeless> Cappy: it can associate for you automatically if you configure it
[09:16] <Cappy> yeah i will have to look, the man page didnt make a whole lot of sense to me, thats partly because of the way my screen is configured (badly)
[09:17] <Cappy> the other thing i need to do is get my wifi secured back up... im currently using an open network to get it working
[09:44] <Cappy> folks, here is my entry to /etc/network/interfaces for my wlan0.  since putting this in, i cant get a dhcp lease. http://pastebin.com/d73699e8
[09:46] <nathan__> hello all this is going to sound strange but i need to slow down network access for hotmail i can redirect request for hotmail to another address but thats not what i need
[09:46] <nathan__> when using bind that is
[10:24] <Yautja_Cetanu> How do you set up virtual servers using just ports (So I have no dns, no multiple ip addresses)
[10:50] <Cappy> lifeless, are you there?
[10:51] <Cappy> anyone there that might be able to help with /etc/network/interfaces and getting wifi working without any gui?
[11:12] <Cappy> is anyone here alive? im REALLY stuck and dont know where to go next
[11:14] <Yautja_Cetanu> I asked a question a while ago and got no response :(
[11:14] <Yautja_Cetanu> haven't seen any activity for an hour ish
[11:14] <Cappy> yeah tell me about it, you'd think with 191 people in the chan, there'd be a pretty good chance of a response
[11:15] <Yautja_Cetanu> do you know anywhere else to go?
[11:15] <Yautja_Cetanu> I'm trying to set up an apache virtual host, so its a fiarly noob question
[11:17] <Cappy> i can only assume you've googled the hell outta it.
[11:17] <Cappy> its been a long time since i setup apache manually, so i cant really tell you
[11:18] <Cappy> probably somewhere more apache-ish
[11:18] <Cappy> #apache
[11:18] <Cappy> try #httpd
[11:19] <Yautja_Cetanu> I've done some googling
[11:19] <Yautja_Cetanu> but the problem is that I'm such a noob
[11:19] <Yautja_Cetanu> the I don't really know which of the google results are in the right direction
[11:20] <Cappy> i'd ask in #httpd, they can probably point you in the right direction at the very least.
[11:20] <Yautja_Cetanu> Most tutorials assume you have a dns server or going to set up multiple IPs, I want to have the virtual server on a different port
[11:20] <Yautja_Cetanu> which I've done on IIS
[11:20] <Yautja_Cetanu> cool
[11:20] <Yautja_Cetanu> thanks
[11:20] <Cappy> so you want to do servername:80 for one site and servername:81 for another etc?
[11:24] <Cappy> ive been working with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834 but i get a feeling it needs updating to karmic standards... otherwise im just being brain dead and missing something simple.
[11:30] <Yautja_Cetanu> yeah thats what I'm looking for
[11:30] <Yautja_Cetanu> :(
[11:30] <Yautja_Cetanu> Have you tried using something like ebox or webmin?
[11:31] <Cappy> i cant talk to webmin unless i have a network connection
[11:31] <Cappy> its installed and was working, but now that my wifi is dead, i cant talk to it (
[11:40] <Yautja_Cetanu> oh yeah
[11:40] <Yautja_Cetanu> you can't temporarily plug it in i guess?
[11:42] <Cappy> yeah i can, but i dont remember seeing anything about wireless setup in webmin
[11:43] <Cappy> at this point, if i knew it would work, i'd install a full desktop to the machine and get it up with wicd.
[11:43] <Cappy> but i dont think thats going to work while wicd isnt running.
[12:00] <Cappy> im about ready to ditch this for windows 98, at least i know i can make that work.
[12:08] <Yautja_Cetanu> Why don't you go for the full ubuntu with a gui?
[12:11] <Yautja_Cetanu> My general feeling has been that wifi is one of the banes of linux
[12:11] <Yautja_Cetanu> but thats based on very little
[12:18] <Cappy> i think i have it
[12:18] <Cappy> dont ask me what i did, i have no idea
[12:19] <Cappy> this is for a server, something i can turn on when i need to play, something i can plug in to power and have work from a room with no wired ethernet
[12:20] <Cappy> anyway, looks like its working
[13:18] <g-hennux> hi!
[13:18] <g-hennux> i want cron to send me mails to some remote server, but without all the overhead of postfix, exim etc. -- what is the minimal setup i need for cron to be able to send mails?
[13:19] <g-hennux> i created /root/.forward pointing to the correct address, but it seems to be ignored, and there's also no mail appearing in /var/mail/root, so i'm a bit puzzled
[13:20] <g-hennux> do i need a sendmail executable, as provided, e.g. by nullmailer?
[13:20] <volter> Hello!
[13:21] <DanDare> Hello. I need to pay something to have ubuntu server LTS and it´s 5 year security updates ?
[13:21] <g-hennux> DanDare: no
[13:21] <DanDare> g-hennux, thanks
[13:22] <g-hennux> DanDare: 10.04 will be the next LTS release, afaik
[13:22] <sherr> g-hennux: what about ssmtp - simple smtp - sends only?
[13:22] <volter> I've got wrong permissions on /dev/null on a virtual root server. They are 600 instead of 666, and it's not caused by udev.
[13:22] <DanDare> and normal Ubuntu Server distros (not LTS) will have at least 18 months of security updates? I mean, this really works ?
[13:22] <DanDare> g-hennux, yeah, im reading about... for April
[13:23] <g-hennux> sherr: so what is the method that cron uses to send mail? e.g. with python's smtplib module, i guess i don't need any mta, just because python speaks SMTP. so i was wondering, what backend cron uses to send mail
[13:24] <sherr> g-hennux: cron will use sendmail or equivalent for non-local mail e.g. postfix, ssmtp etc.
[13:25] <DanDare> Sorry to ask this but im just sarting with Ubuntu Server. Im a Debian user. In few words what´s the main advantage of Ubuntu Server compared to Debian ?
[13:25] <sherr> in fact - try just "mail -s subject <addr>" (heirloom-mailx)
[13:27] <g-hennux> sherr: ok, now i installed ssmtp, but then local delivery won't work any more. i.e. "mail root" will give me "relay access denied", because the next server in line won't accept mails for "root@mymachine"
[13:27] <palt> I'm having some HW problems with a server. Just before christmas one of the two system driver (in a raid) failed. I bought a replacement and got it working again. Now the other drive seems to be failing, giving me lots of error messages in dmesg. However, one strange thing is that the new drive got kicked out of the raid just now, and the old drive are still in it, but having lots of error messages in dmesg
[13:28] <sherr> g-hennux: root should be dealt with by /etc/aliases - local delivery to a named user i.e. you
[13:29] <palt> Is there someway to check if it is some other hardware issues, like IDE controller or something?
[13:30] <DanDare> palt, start trying to replace data cables (imo)
[13:30] <g-hennux> sherr: /etc/aliases is not present. and "sendmail root" will try to connect to my mailhub to deliver the mail. that's not cool. i want mails for local users to be put in /var/mail/ and mails for non-local users to be transported via my mailhub
[13:31] <sherr> g-hennux: have you configured ssmtp?
[13:31] <g-hennux> sherr: yes
[13:31] <DanDare> palt, or same error disks on second IDE to see if they got errors
[13:32] <sherr> g-hennux: I suggested it but don't use it (I use Postfix). This page : http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/132006
[13:32] <sherr> says to have a "root=" line to grab root's mail.
[13:32] <palt> swap the discs and see if I get the error from the swapped disc?
[13:33] <sherr> g-hennux: http://linux.die.net/man/5/ssmtp.conf - root option
[13:34] <g-hennux> sherr: ok, now got it working as it should, i guess
[13:34] <g-hennux> thank you!
[13:34] <palt> bah, I hate hardware errors ;P
[13:36] <sherr> g-hennux: no problem.
[13:36] <sherr> palt: Also check SMART health status on both disks - smartctl
[13:45] <palt> sherr: thx :) I'll try that :)
[14:00] <DanDare> well, Ubuntu seems to be really making a difference
[14:00] <DanDare> I plugged an USB cam and it just works
[14:00] <DanDare> it´s the plug´n play in the linux world
[15:09] <spiekey> Hello!
[15:09] <spiekey> does anyone know what i am doing wrong with my chroot here? http://pastebin.com/d75705542
[15:09] <Tommy89> How can i update just php to the latest version.. on ubuntu 8.04
[15:10] <spiekey> oh, i know
[15:10] <spiekey> dont use quotes ;)
[15:20] <zroysch> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/md2,
[15:20] <zroysch> if i try mounting my md device and get this is the data lost?
[16:28] <Q-FUNK> hi! is there any standard place to disable apt-check from the login loop?  it seems that it often hangs, which result in ssh login never completing.
[16:55] <AdamDV> 'lo
[16:56] <AdamDV> Anyone feel like sharing a couple spamassassin rulesets?
[17:32] <larsemil> after a successful creation of a kvm machine with vmbuilder is there any reason it should not show up in virsh?
[17:34] <larsemil> there was no xml file created
[17:36] <martin-> there should be a xml file
[17:36] <martin-> which you import using the command define in virsh
[17:51] <larsemil> martin-: it was not created for some reason
[17:52] <larsemil> martin-: the disk image was created and the run.sh but not any xml file
[17:52] <martin-> strange
[17:53] <martin-> never used vmbuilder though
[17:53] <larsemil> martin-: http://pastebin.ca/1803873
[18:00] <ruben23> hi i got problem, when i browse its very slow getting the page sometime getting time out, and im using squid for proxy any suggestion where should i look at.
[18:03] <DanDare> Okay, this link is broken: http://tinyurl.com/ubuntuserv
[18:04] <DanDare> This one works: http://tinyurl.com/ubuntuserver that redirects to http://www.lalitkapoor.com/blog/2008/06/30/ubuntu-server-desktop-autologin/
[18:06] <ruben23> hi i got problem, when i browse its very slow getting the page sometime getting time out, and im using squid for proxy any suggestion where should i look at..
[18:17] <AdamDV> ruben23: Try about:confgi in mozilla nad disable ipv6
[18:19] <DanDare> The various brands of Ubuntu distros shares the same codename? I just donwloaded and installed US so it´s Karmic Koala what i have ?
[18:59] <DanDare> I installed Ubuntu Server and my IP is from Brazil. Just installed phpmyadmin and it´s interface cames with portions of it in BR-portuguese language. I want all the system in english. What´s the Ubuntu Server automation proccess that take care of this? Where to look to set default language for the system?
[19:02] <DanDare> Well, I choose english at installing time...
[19:02] <isaquealves> DanDare: Check /etc/environment
[19:03] <DanDare> allright, thanks. Just found this https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/ that sounds usefull also
[19:07] <DanDare> environment file just says: PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[19:09] <DanDare> I have everything as en_US.UTF-8 on 'locale' exept LC_ALL= that´s blank
[19:14] <DanDare> phpmyadmin package says "... and its fully internationalized and localized in dozens of languages"
[19:14] <DanDare> so most probably that´s just phpmyadmin stuff
[19:24] <nijaba> DanDare: take a look at the preffered languages your browser sends to your server...
[19:24] <DanDare> nijaba, ok thanks.
[19:25] <nijaba> DanDare: if on Firefox Preference -> content -> languages
[19:27] <ruben23> any relation with proxy problem with this page display when loading gmail, or just and ISP problem..>? ---> http://i50.tinypic.com/2euorrq.jpg
[19:28] <DanDare> nijaba, changed that and it works now, thanks. Anyway there´s a pulldown menu on the main phpmyadmin page that let you choose language... I was just being so stupid and not seeing that...
[20:06] <AdamDV> tbc: !
[20:07] <tbc> Hey AdamDV. How's it going?
[20:07] <AdamDV> Good Good, and you?
[20:07] <tbc> Got online to deal w/email, do some surfing and thinking.
[20:08] <AdamDV> lol
[21:16] <DanDare> uvirtbot, can i try to replicate this running on VM ?
[21:16] <DanDare> allright
[21:16] <DanDare> :)
[21:19] <guntbert> DanDare: most users whose nick end in -bot are ...
[21:19] <guntbert> *nicks
[21:20] <DanDare> yeah :p
[21:20] <DanDare> uvirtbot make me a sandwich
[21:20] <DanDare> bah
[21:21] <KurtKraut> I've experienced this bug #525041 while visting some websites.
[21:21] <KurtKraut> I think I've seen this twice
[21:23] <DanDare> This bug file means that... installing php on a fresh setup with minimal configurations? I mean, there´s a lot of web servers around loading php pages correctly
[21:24] <DanDare> a bug may be hard to spot as caused by a conjuction of facts anyway
[21:26] <DanDare> and this is annoying, after changing permissions of some MySQL user using phpmyadmin i got "Cannot start session without errors, please check errors given in your PHP and/or webserver log file and configure your PHP installation properly.", cant log anymore on phpmyadmin, and it was working.. i dont touched anything on the config files
[22:06] <osmosis> anyone want to sponsor getting Django 1.2 into lucid?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-django/+bug/505440
[22:20] <kklimonda> zul: can you comment on bug 505440 when you are awake? I've asked you a question there without noticing that you are not subscribed :)
[22:44] <ChmEarl> my initrd.img for karmic server guest (9.10) is over 7 MB. it should be no more than 3MB
[22:44] <ChmEarl> kvm guest
[22:45] <ChmEarl> first attempt to run mkinitramfs failed to boot new initrd.img
[22:46] <ChmEarl> in initramfs.conf I set modules=dep  (was most)
[22:49] <ChmEarl> can I take the list from lsmod and add it to the /initfamfs-tools/modules ?
[22:49] <kklimonda> lifeless: I've asked zul about django not because of his comment but because he was going to asses the risks and gains of getting it into lucid - I was wondering whenever he has found time to do it. :)
[23:17] <ehnde> if i uninstall the lamp stack will that remove all of my configuration files too?
[23:17] <ehnde> i'm considering reinstalling because i cannot get my php scripts to run
[23:18] <ehnde> any php i put in is viewable in the html source
[23:21] <AdamDV> ehnde: Not unless you run apt-get remove --purge
[23:33] <AdamDV> ehnde: Try starting your php with <?php instead of <?
[23:47] <skuldGoddess> so i recently installed spamassassin on my postfix mail server.  I'm thinking something isn't quite right...I don't seem to be getting my mail now.  I noticed in the config that sendmail is in the config, yet, i don't use sendmail at all.
[23:52] <skuldGoddess> I see this in /etc/postfix/master.cf:  spamassassin unix - n n - - /usr/bin/sendmail -oi -f ${sender} ${recipient}
[23:57] <skuldGoddess> I... guess everybody is busy eating dinner? LOL