[16:46] <Pendulum> okay, I have a stupid question about something I really should know. So I told firefox to restart after downloading an update
[16:46] <Pendulum> except it closed, but never reopened
[16:46] <IdleOne> Pendulum: yeah, that happens sometimes
[16:47] <Pendulum> so I just tried opening it myself and it's now telling me that there are still running processes
[16:47] <Pendulum> so it won't reopen
[16:47] <IdleOne> killall firefox
[16:47] <Pendulum> thank you :)
[16:47] <IdleOne> no problem
[16:47] <nigelb> IdleOne: you're waaay too fast
[16:47] <IdleOne> haha
[16:47] <nigelb> by the time I typed kill, you already typed it out
[16:47] <Pendulum> (I was going to try that, but didn't want to try it and cause a bigger problem)
[16:47] <IdleOne> I try to do my best :) most of the time I fail but I keep trying
[16:48] <Pendulum> I really need to get better command line & bash skills (this is not a "oh you must use the command line for linux" thing, but a "i like the command line" thing)
[16:48] <IdleOne> Pendulum: I don't think that killing processes is ever a big issue. unless you have 50 pc's depending on those processes
[16:48] <nigelb> or you kill X
[16:49] <IdleOne> in a case like firefox----kill away :)
[16:50] <IdleOne> Pendulum: besides you should be using Chrome or Chromium
[16:50] <IdleOne> :)
[16:50] <IdleOne> all the cool kids are doing it
[16:51] <nigelb> I'm not cool enough for chrome ;)
[16:51] <Pendulum> there are other reasons why I should, but I get nervous to have google have access to even more of my life than they already do ;)
[20:57] <valorie> Pendulum: use Chromium
[20:57] <valorie> there is no phone-home bit in it
[20:58]  * valorie likes it, but it hasn't surpassed FF for me yet
[20:58] <Pendulum> heh
[21:05] <JanC> valorie: there is some "phone home" stuff in both Chromium & FF default config...
[21:06] <valorie> besides say, cookies?
[21:06] <valorie> I haven't heard about that
[21:09] <JanC> well, the search suggestion stuff, the bad website check, etc.
[21:09] <JanC> of course, most people consider that features  ☺
[21:16] <valorie> I do, yes
[21:16] <valorie> esp. at the price: free