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humphreybcokay guys i've just pimped the 48 hours on a whole heap of mailing lists and facebook02:58
humphreybci love the sentence i constructed that totally sells it :P02:59
humphreybc"Want to help out with Ubuntu but don't know much about programming or how to contribute? The Ubuntu Manual Project makes it easy for people of all levels of experience and areas of talent to help out! From authors to design to programming, we've got it covered - and you can learn how to get involved by joining us at 48 Hours of Ubuntu Manual Learning this Monday and Tuesday!"02:59
humphreybcso yes, we have to totally make this event ROCK!03:00
* godbyk starts working on his slides...03:00
humphreybcgodbyk: yeah i have to do some more slides... eek03:02
godbykAlso, I'm apparently going to have to just take short naps for the next three days.  Time zones suck!03:02
humphreybcyeah tell me about03:03
godbykhumphreybc: what did you want to email me about before?03:03
humphreybcoh nothing, i just wanted to put the email addresses of the key people in one of my slides03:04
humphreybci hope you guys don't mind, if you do I _can_ take them out but i'd prefer them to be there03:04
godbykah, gotcha.03:04
godbykdoesn't bother me.03:04
godbykI can hit 'delete' as easily as anything else. ;-)03:05
* humphreybc 172 fans on facebook is pretty impressive i must say03:05
humphreybci think we need to revamp the ubuntu manual logo03:06
humphreybci might do that03:06
godbykDo it now then so I can use it in my slides. :)03:09
humphreybcdon't have time, maybe later :D03:09
humphreybcdon't worry about the logo in the slides03:09
humphreybcI just used the "Ubuntu human" template in open office03:10
humphreybcit looks okay03:10
godbykDo you have the source files for the Ubuntu Manual 48-hours logo someplace?03:10
humphreybcI do but they're PSD03:10
godbykI'm using LaTeX beamer.03:10
humphreybcand not transparant - hence why I need to make a new one03:10
godbykHeathen!03:10
humphreybcyeah I know, I bought an android cellphone, run ubuntu on my laptop and server and install ubuntu on all my family and friends' computers, but i will not part from photoshop!03:10
humphreybcbut they tell me the next version of gimp is very very good03:11
humphreybcand apparently better than photoshop!03:11
humphreybcso i might have to switch :D03:11
godbykYou should at least use inkscape for the simple logos like that.  vector graphics are nice.03:11
humphreybcyeah i need to have a play with inkscape03:12
humphreybchaven't got round to it yet03:12
humphreybcone of these days03:12
humphreybc:P03:12
godbykIt's pretty awesome.03:14
humphreybci have heard great things about t03:17
humphreybcit*03:17
godbykare we supposed to use any particular theme for slides? or just do our own thing?03:18
humphreybcjust do whatever you like03:18
humphreybcyou're in charge of the class03:19
godbykk03:19
humphreybcOH THE POWER! haha03:20
humphreybcright i'm heading out for the afternoon, talk to ya'll later. i'll be on all night because i have to stay up till 2am for this session with cjohnston03:22
cjohnston2am hmm?03:51
cjohnstonI guess he is gone03:51
* humphreybc found a headset in one of his drawers full of computer stuff! Now I can make that ground control how to video and it will actually sound good!07:31
humphreybcbtw, who has skype?07:31
humphreybcgodbyk: ping07:36
godbykhumphreybc: pong07:37
godbykI have skype07:37
humphreybcis there a list of latex commands somewhere?07:37
humphreybcie07:37
humphreybcnot generic ones07:37
humphreybcbut ones you've created for us07:37
godbykNot yet.  There will be once I finish my handout for the 48-hours thing, though.07:37
humphreybcand what's your skype username? not that I need to call you but I'm trying to make my contact list look a little less sad with 6 people :)07:37
humphreybcawesome07:37
godbykMine's godbyk.07:37
humphreybcoO a handout :D07:37
humphreybcalso i just added a 48 hours folder to the branch with some of my stuff in it07:38
godbykwell, a lot of the stuff doesn't really work on slides.  Who wants to flip through slides to find something if they can have a booklet instead?07:38
godbykBut I'm doing the slides first, and then I'll work on the handout.07:38
humphreybcif you could put your stuff in there too that'd be neat. then people can use it as help after we actually do 48 hours, i'll rename the folder to "Help Documents"07:38
humphreybcand i'll reorganize it from username based stuff to topic based help with all the slides/handouts/material from 48 hours07:39
godbykmaybe just name it 'docs'?07:39
godbyk(btw, spaces in folder names can occasionally cause problems, I'd avoid 'em.)07:39
humphreybcI want to folder to stand out amongst all the chapter folders07:39
humphreybcokay cool07:39
humphreybcwell maybe "HELP" haha07:39
humphreybcor just "help"07:39
godbykheh07:39
humphreybcI think it'll be yet another valuable resource to point newbies :D07:40
godbykyep07:40
humphreybci love it how we're writing help documentation, but we have our own help documentation....07:40
godbyk:)07:40
humphreybcso we're writing help documentation for the project that's writing help documentation for the OS that's designed to help users get things done. man we're sooo nice.07:40
IlyaHaykinsonmy PC is clearly too slow to run Open Office happily.08:51
IlyaHaykinsonbut i cannot succumb to buying another machine.08:52
IlyaHaykinsoni already feel like i have too many.08:52
IlyaHaykinsontwo work desktops, a work laptop, a personal netbook, and a home desktop. another machine and i'll start going crazy! :)08:52
humphreybclol08:53
humphreybccombine them all together into one crazy super computer :D08:53
IlyaHaykinsonwell, they're not all in one place. plus i can't carry a crazy super computer around, it'll be too heavy :)08:55
TommyBrunnNot if you mount it onto some sort of backpack rack!08:57
IlyaHaykinsonclearly that's my answer ;-)08:59
humphreybchaha09:01
humphreybchey thorwil, how do you spell your last name correctly?09:12
humphreybcand do you have any objections to me putting your email address in one of the slides for 48 hours?09:13
thorwilhumphreybc: hi. Wilms09:13
thorwilhumphreybc: why would you do that?09:13
humphreybcokay cool. there's a slide where I introduce the key members of our project09:14
humphreybcand everyone has their email address, but i wanted to make sure it was okay09:14
IlyaHaykinsonok, pushed my slides; going to bed.09:14
IlyaHaykinsoni think i'll skip the training in 4 hrs, it's just bad timing for me. humphreybc, if you're up, can you keep a log and send it to me, just in case?09:14
humphreybcIlyaHaykinson: cool, catchya later :)09:14
thorwilhumphreybc: it's ok, my email address is hardly a secret09:14
humphreybcIlyaHaykinson: yep I can do that09:14
thorwiland all email harvesters have it already09:15
humphreybcthorwil: okay cool, thanks09:15
IlyaHaykinsonhumphreybc: thx.09:16
TommyBrunnGot the account face avatar thingy working now. No idea why it didn't work last night, as I haven't changed a single line of code since then.09:16
humphreybcwelcome to programming :P09:20
TommyBrunnhumphreybc We need to decide on how to structure the screenshot branches.09:56
TommyBrunnMy vote goes for having a separate branch for each language.09:57
humphreybcyep me too09:57
dutchiehumphreybc: jshhholland on skype09:58
dutchieyou can be my first contact09:58
humphreybchaha09:58
humphreybchey so dutchie what's all this about the training thing?10:04
dutchie19:46:20 < cjohnston|cell> dutchie: 1300 utc tomorrow for testing the classbot + training for instructors10:06
dutchie19:46:38 < cjohnston|cell> In ##ubuntu-cr and ##ubuntu-cr-chat10:06
dutchiethat's all I know10:08
humphreybcokay cool10:08
TommyBrunnSo, I'm not sure how we're supposed to deal with the branches. We need to create branches that anyone can push to, I guess. But I have no idea how to go about doing this.10:10
TommyBrunnAnd where should the branches be? In the ubuntu manual Launchpad project10:11
dutchiehow about lp:~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/screenshots-LANG?10:12
TommyBrunnSure. Speaking of which, I guess we don't have to worry about having multiple versions of the same language? Like en_US and en_UK (or whatever it is), for example.10:12
dutchiewhy would you have to worry?10:13
TommyBrunnWell, there could be minor differences between the two - although they should be negligible.10:14
humphreybcnoo10:16
humphreybcwe don't want to put them in the ubuntu manual branch10:16
humphreybcwe want to keep them separate10:16
humphreybcwe need en_US and en_UK10:16
humphreybcbecause they are "languages"10:16
humphreybcand are diffferent10:17
TommyBrunnSo you will distribute two English versions of the manual then?10:17
humphreybcI suggest we either tie them to the quickshot project, or create another project entirely just for screenshots10:17
humphreybcTommyBrunn: yep10:17
humphreybcand the en_US will be US Letter size, the en_UK will be A4 sized10:17
TommyBrunnI see.10:17
humphreybcit's all very fun :)10:17
humphreybchaha10:18
humphreybcand the readers are very lucky to have so many options10:18
TommyBrunnAnyway, it doesn't really matter to me, as long as someone creates them and we have a simple way of organizing them.10:18
humphreybcyep10:19
humphreybcwe need to give everyone write access to those branches too10:19
humphreybci need to talk to the lp guys to see how we can do it10:19
humphreybcafaik launchpad has never been used in this way before10:19
TommyBrunnAnd what about when the user wants to push their changes. Should we keep it simple and just have them push straight to quickshot/screenshots/screenshot_en_US (or whatever), or should we have them push to ~username/quickshot/screenshots/screenshot_en_US and then somehow create a merge request?10:20
humphreybceek10:22
humphreybcKISS10:22
humphreybckeep it simple simon10:22
humphreybcmerging could get very very very messy10:22
TommyBrunnYeah, that's what I'm thinking too.10:22
humphreybcyou could grab some code from ground control10:22
humphreybclp:groundcontrol10:22
humphreybci know martin well, he could help too10:22
humphreybcwell, he doesn't have enough time to actually help, but he does know a lot about launchpad and bzr now10:23
TommyBrunnYou have mentioned this Martin character a number of times now, yet I still have no idea who he is. :D10:23
humphreybchttp://doctormo.wordpress.com/10:23
humphreybchttps://edge.launchpad.net/~doctormo10:23
humphreybcdoctormo on IRC10:23
humphreybcdutchie: anyone pick up editing?10:25
dutchiehumphreybc: not as far as i've heard10:35
humphreybceek10:35
ubuntujenkinscan as many people as possible please run  "lshw | grep -C +11 display" and paste the output here http://paste.ubuntu.com/ it will help with quickshot, thank you.10:55
humphreybcubuntujenkins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/380901/10:56
godbykubuntujenkins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/380902/10:56
ubuntujenkinshumphreybc what driver are you using the open ati or the proprietary one?10:59
humphreybcubuntujenkins: I'm using the open source ati one10:59
dutchiehttp://pastebin.com/f41b61d3110:59
ubuntujenkinsthanks people now to ask on a busy channel11:00
godbykOkay, what have I forgotten? http://kevin.godby.org/private/ubuntu-manual/um-latex-slides.pdf11:02
godbyk(I'm getting tired and my brain's fried.)11:02
godbykbrb.. need water11:02
godbykback11:05
ubuntujenkinsgodbyk  it good only one thing i notieced. On slide 13 you have Applications>Accessories........... I think the use of arrows goes against the style guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/StyleGuide#Formatting11:07
godbykubuntujenkins: Actually, the very first thing mentioned under that heading is what I'm demonstrating.11:09
godbyk(I'm renaming the \nav command to \menu, btw.)11:09
ubuntujenkinsO now that heading has changed but its now contradicts its self it tells you to use arrows but underneath tells you not to use arrows.11:12
ubuntujenkinsI don't mind as long as the manual is consistent11:13
godbykWell, from a style standpoint, it's frowned upon.  My talk is about LaTeX, though, so I'm just teaching the commands.11:13
godbykIn short, you're allowed to use the arrows, but it's not the preferred way.11:13
ubuntujenkinsfair enough I was being picky :) It did teach me something I need to change \menuitem with \menu11:14
godbykubuntujenkins: yep.  though I haven't committed that code yet. :-)11:14
ubuntujenkinsright glad you told me that I was going to do find and replace on my stuff11:15
c7phey guys, i ve got a question about tommorow's meeting, #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat channels will host same teacher at the same time?11:15
godbykI'll give you a heads up when I've fixed all that.11:15
ubuntujenkinscool thanks11:16
dutchiec7p: what do you mean? I think we will have our teachers in both channels, if that's what you want11:17
godbykc7p: I think both channels will be used.11:17
godbykPhrased another way: You should join both channels as they'll be used together.11:18
* humphreybc finished recording a ground control step by step walkthrough video... i sound very very very quiet haha11:18
c7pthx11:18
dutchiec7p: alternatively, try Jono's Lernid program11:19
dutchiehttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lernid11:19
c7pyeah i read the wiki11:19
dutchiegodbyk: what is the exact reason we need TL2009? (for my talk on building translations)11:19
godbykBecause we're using the polyglossia package to handle the different languages.  And it's not available for TL2007.11:20
godbykAlso, the glossary stuff (when I get to it) will require TL2009.11:20
dutchiecheers11:20
godbykThe glossary stuff in TL2007 is woefully out of date and not as nice.11:20
* humphreybc is rendering the video... exciting! 11:22
humphreybci think this is the nicest screencast i have made11:22
c7pwhat is it about?11:22
humphreybcit's a video for the ground control session i'm teaching tomorrow :)11:23
c7pnice :)11:23
humphreybcyep11:23
humphreybcnow i just have to make some slides for the other sessions and we should all be good11:23
humphreybcLooking through Ilya's slides, i can't think of much one would say in the editing session that he hasn't already covered11:25
humphreybcpitivi dont fail me now11:26
c7pok teachers cya tomorrow ;)11:29
humphreybcso dutchie how does lernid actually present the slides?11:29
dutchieit splits the top section in half and shows them in there iirc11:29
humphreybcah okay11:29
humphreybccan i show a youtube video there instead?11:30
dutchiedon't think so11:30
dutchiebut it does automatically open any links you paste11:30
dutchiehttp://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4303297886_034bfa5e5d_o.jpg11:31
humphreybcoh what the hell11:31
humphreybcpitivi you suck!11:31
ubuntujenkinshumphreybc are you still doing a session at 1500 the wiki says you are but the schedule in lernid says not. I will be in a lab at that time and will run home in between.11:31
humphreybcyep my first session is at 150011:31
ubuntujenkinscool web irc it is I can see not lab work being done :)11:32
TommyBrunnhumphreybc if PiTiVi is failing you, you should give Openshot a go. It's a great deal more stable.11:32
humphreybcTommyBrunn: yeah i'll give openshot a go in a sec. pitivi is all good until it tries to render something11:33
ubuntujenkinshumphreybc flash does work in lernid watching youtube now.11:33
humphreybci think it's actually something to do with the .ogv format11:33
ubuntujenkinsI found .avi worked in pitvi11:33
humphreybcwhat muxers etc did you use?11:33
humphreybci've tried to change the settings for encoding but i couldn't get anything to work apart from .ogv which semi worked11:33
ubuntujenkinsthe pre set ones worked for me11:34
issyl0Hello!11:34
humphreybcthe preset ones render to .ogv, regardless of whether you change the file extension to .avi or anything else11:34
humphreybcit's a bit shit, to use some french.11:34
ubuntujenkinsclick the modiy button then choose avi in the container drop down11:35
ubuntujenkinshello issyl011:35
humphreybcrighto, and audio?11:36
humphreybcit seems to hate when the video goes from a still image to a video11:36
issyl0ubuntujenkins: hi, I'm hoping to be able to help out more today now that bzr and Lp work :)11:36
ubuntujenkinssounds like a plan issyl011:37
humphreybcso just the avimuxer you reckon... hmm11:37
ubuntujenkinsjust running a tes now11:37
ubuntujenkins*test11:37
issyl0ubuntujenkins: definitely :)11:38
ubuntujenkinshttp://imagebin.org/85807 works for me you can change the fps (humphreybc)11:39
humphreybchmm okay11:39
humphreybcsee my source video is only 15FPS11:39
ubuntujenkinsissyl0 would you mind running "lshw | grep -C +11 display" and paste the output here http://paste.ubuntu.com/ it will help with quickshot for the ubuntu manual project, thanks11:39
humphreybcbecause recordmydesktop is also pretty gay11:40
humphreybcaudio/video in linux is terrible11:40
humphreybcwith a capital T, so it's Terrible11:40
* humphreybc has to stop using gay as a bad word when talking to people outside of NZ11:40
humphreybcubuntujenkins: are you trying to get some information on what type of resolutions people are using for quickshot?11:41
ubuntujenkinschoose custom that allows you to choose 12fps11:41
humphreybcso should i choose a lower FPS than the source input?11:41
ubuntujenkinsI am trying to detect the driver in use first then I will work on the resoultion11:42
ubuntujenkinswell choosing higher will make no difference, just try a few and give it a go11:43
humphreybcomg yay avi actually worked11:44
humphreybcnickserv help12:08
humphreybcwait12:08
issyl0Hehe12:09
humphreybchow do i change to the admin thing so i can remove that next meeting thing?12:09
humphreybci've forgotten12:09
issyl0 /msg chanserv #ubuntu-manual op12:09
humphreybcthanks!12:09
issyl0And then /topic ....12:09
humphreybcdidn't work12:09
dutchieop #ubuntu-manual12:10
humphreybcah12:10
issyl0It should have done...12:10
humphreybcother way around :)12:10
issyl0Aaah12:10
=== humphreybc changed the topic of #ubuntu-manual to: Ubuntu Manual Project discussion | Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual | Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual | IRC logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu Guidelines: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | Code of Conduct: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
* issyl0 headdesks at the failure - I need to get back into freenode again! :O12:11
* issyl0 did just succeed at making bzr work with her laptop though :)12:11
* humphreybc is totally listening to the bladerunner soundtrack12:11
humphreybcissyl0: are you a girl? don't see many of them round these parts!12:12
issyl0humphreybc: I am indeed, however I don't see what that's got to do with anything!  But no, you don't, and it's good I'm getting involved I guess!12:12
humphreybcit doesn't have anything to do with anything, i'm just impressed :)12:13
issyl0Ah, well er thanks!12:13
humphreybclol12:14
issyl0I really want to get more involved with Ubuntu and do more to help, so I thought why not join the manual project :)12:15
cjohnstonhumphreybc: I just want to confirm before changing the official learning events calendar, you got rid of the editing process class?12:15
humphreybcheh well yep we're a pretty funky project xD12:15
humphreybccjohnston: yep12:16
humphreybcwhat's on our wiki now should be final12:16
humphreybcand then the PDF slides and stuff will trickle in for lernid today and tomorrow, but i think dutchie is handling that12:16
cjohnstonis the wiki the same as the ical12:16
dutchieI will if you give me URLS12:16
humphreybcdutchie: ^^12:17
humphreybcyep i'll get URLs for stuff soon12:17
dutchieyes, the ical and wiki are in sync12:17
cjohnstonty12:17
humphreybcso cjohnston what are we going to learn in 40 minutes?12:17
cjohnstonhow to use the bot... the bot will change topics for each class, set the channel to moderated, give voice to instructors12:18
humphreybcawesome :)12:18
cjohnstonplus, handle the questions from ubuntu-classroom-chat12:18
cjohnstonyou can review the question via a pm, and then accept/reject the question12:19
humphreybcsounds like fun12:19
humphreybcso we do the teaching from an IRC client, not lernid, right?12:19
humphreybclernid simply gives a UI for viewing what's happening in a chatroom as well as showing a website and a PDF file in windows, correct?12:19
cjohnstoni havent looked in a while, but last i checked, there wasnt a way for you to speak in lernid12:20
cjohnstonas of now, that is correct12:20
humphreybcsweet12:20
cjohnstonthere is plans for an instructor module12:20
humphreybccool12:20
cjohnstonBut I don't believe that is anytime soon12:20
humphreybccan we as instructors connect to lernid as a guest to make sure everything's running alright?12:20
humphreybc(from the user's perspective)12:20
dutchieof course12:21
dutchienothing to stop you12:21
humphreybcokay cool12:21
dutchieyou'll need a different nick though12:21
humphreybcjust making sure :)12:21
humphreybci think the Lithuanians are taking over our wiki :P12:23
ubuntujenkinswhy?12:23
humphreybchttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/lithuanian12:24
humphreybcit's cool though12:24
humphreybcmight go check out #ubuntu-manual-lt12:24
ubuntujenkinsnice to people are enthusiastic12:24
humphreybci know it's great :)12:24
* humphreybc 61% of the video uploaded to youtube... gotta love slow upload speeds. not.12:25
issyl0Ha12:25
humphreybcdutchie: is there any way for us to actually see how many translators are working on the project?12:26
dutchiedunno12:27
humphreybcdoes rosetta give us some stats12:27
humphreybchmm12:27
humphreybci'll have a look12:27
humphreybcdoesn't look like it12:28
humphreybcnot very important, just interesting12:29
zirodayI gotta say, the proposed manual cover is really shiny12:34
zirodaycongrats to the artists12:34
humphreybcwhich one is that ziroday? the current one in the branch or the one in the ML?12:34
zirodayhumphreybc: one in the branch12:34
humphreybcokay yeah, that's going to be refined even more very soon12:34
zirodaysimilar to http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MOCs5B8LekE/S0w8KkYW8_I/AAAAAAAAAZ8/oNDJTv5n52w/s1600-h/Cover-lower.png12:35
humphreybcthere's a big announcement to be made on the 25th at the end of this week12:35
zirodayooh, can't wait :)12:35
humphreybcthat's going to affect our style :)12:35
humphreybcand colours etc12:35
zirodaywell so far it looks very shiny12:35
ubuntujenkinsis it a good or bad thing then?12:35
humphreybcubuntujenkins: it's a good thing12:35
ubuntujenkinscool can't wait12:36
zirodayubuntujenkins: progress is never a bad thing ;)12:36
ubuntujenkinstrue12:36
humphreybcand it's not just for the manual, it's for all of ubuntu. i can't tell you any more, but just keep an eye on the planet around 1800 UTC on the 25th12:36
ubuntujenkinsI will be refreshing it loads then :)12:37
humphreybc:)12:37
godbykBoy, life would be a lot easier for me if everyone used the Latin alphabet. :-)12:49
humphreybchaha12:49
humphreybcso dutchie where are we going? ##ubuntu-cr?12:49
dutchieand ##ubuntu-cr-chat12:50
humphreybcrighto12:50
humphreybci'm the only one in ##ubuntu-cr-chat12:51
dutchiehumphreybc: you're not in it at all12:52
humphreybcoh must have typed it wrong12:52
komsasdutchie: how often u sync translations? Every time when u did that, I want to create lithuanian PDF version.13:03
dutchiedaily-ish13:04
humphreybckomsas: godbyk is working on a build server for us that will hopefully sync translations and compile daily builds of all the languages13:05
humphreybchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeNXqfofbWk13:06
komsasoh, awesome!13:06
humphreybcyoutube is still rendering it13:06
humphreybcbut when they're finished it should be in 720P high def :)13:06
* ubuntujenkins watches the video13:09
humphreybcubuntujenkins: you might want to wait for about 10 mins so youtube can render it better13:09
ubuntujenkinsI watch it twice :)13:10
humphreybcdutchie: currently gertrude isn't in #ubuntu-manual?13:16
dutchiegot netsplitted :(13:16
humphreybc?13:17
dutchiemanualbot: ping13:18
manualbotpong13:18
manualbotHere I am, brain the size of a planet and you expect me to respond to a ping? How depressing.13:18
humphreybclol13:18
humphreybcthat always cracks me up13:19
humphreybcGround Control video has been processed, now up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeNXqfofbWk13:57
humphreybcview it in HD! yay!13:58
ubuntujenkinsif you change your resolution with xrandr does it effect all users? Also if you log out and log back in does it revert to the original resolution?13:58
humphreybci'm heading off to bed, 3am here. night everyone!13:59
godbykI'm heading off to bed, too.  It's 8 a.m. here. :)14:00
humphreybcnice14:00
ubuntujenkinsnight14:00
ubuntujenkins* has nvidia working for quickshot now to ati and intel this is going to be harder.14:02
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ubuntujenkinsdutchie can you post your xrandr output please http://paste.ubuntu.com/14:34
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dutchieubuntujenkins: http://pastebin.com/f47f9fc8e14:48
ubuntujenkinsthanks dutchie14:49
TommyBrunnubuntujenkins: You want my xrandr output as well? I've got an intel chip in this computer, and an ATi card in my girlfriend's.15:01
ubuntujenkinsyes please TommyBrunn if you could also do "lshw -C display" that would be brilliant. Is your girlfriends laptop using the open ati driver?15:03
TommyBrunnxrandr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/381009/15:04
ubuntujenkinswhich computer is that?15:04
TommyBrunnMine. lshw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/381011/15:05
TommyBrunnMy girlfriend is not using the free driver15:05
TommyBrunnShe's using the proprietary one15:05
TommyBrunnDo you want the output from that computer too?15:05
TommyBrunnlshw -C display. Girlfriend's computer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/381012/15:07
ubuntujenkinsplease I need a proprietary ati15:07
TommyBrunnWell, xrandr doesn't work on that computer.15:08
ubuntujenkinsI had a feeling that might be the case thanks15:09
ubuntujenkinswell the program SHOULD work for nvidia, intel and ati using the open driver15:10
ubuntujenkinsTommyBrunn on your computer what does  "xrandr --output HDMI1 --off" give?15:43
TommyBrunnWhy would I want to disable my HDMI out?15:44
ubuntujenkinsWell for xrandr you have to specify which output to change we can't grantee how many screens people have. I just need to work out if turning off a non connected display causes a massive error.15:47
TommyBrunnHeh. We'll see what happens.15:47
TommyBrunnNothing at all happened.15:47
ubuntujenkinsgood, Idealy there would be an xrandr clone all option which is what I have done for nvidia. thanks15:48
ubuntujenkinshas anyone got dual screens and an xti(Open driver only) or intel card?16:16
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* ubuntujenkins can change the screen resolution for quickshot. It could be a fun testing period :P22:19
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