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micahgasac: is it feasible to do a xul192 upload before alpha 3 (monday night)?00:56
asacmicahg: thats ok00:57
LLStarksmicahg. can you confirm that about:home for google is now google cs?00:57
asacLLStarks: our previous homepage was google custom search as well ...00:58
LLStarkswhy?00:58
micahgasac: I was going to try to have a few of the apps in main ready for upload so they can be included in alpha300:58
LLStarkswasn't there enough rage during the karmic me incident to say that was a bad idea?00:59
asacLLStarks: this has been discussed in length last cycle ... i remember you were quite active back then00:59
asacLLStarks: i dont know what you mean. the homepage is the same as in karmic ... the searchplugin doesnt use custom search00:59
asacmicahg: lets drive ppa a bit longer01:00
LLStarksyeah, but revenue boosting at the cost of functionality and image searching...01:00
asacthere is not much of a difference01:00
LLStarksis canonical that desperate?01:00
asacLLStarks: its not a regression from karmic01:01
asaci cant say more01:01
asacor rather dont know what is your point01:01
asacrather than ranting etc.01:01
asaci wont repeat all this discussion every cycle01:02
LLStarksi am ranting, but i don't see why custom search needs to be used in order for canonical to make money.01:02
LLStarkswhy not regular google?01:02
asacLLStarks: why dont you read the ubuntu-devel thread where we announced this ... its all discussed there01:02
LLStarksi shall.01:02
LLStarkswhat month was it>01:03
LLStarksnvm01:03
asacjanuary or even december01:03
LLStarksthanks.01:03
asacnp01:03
asacmicahg: uploads can start after a301:04
asacxul 1.9.2 we can do before01:04
asacalso we can do universe before01:04
micahgasac: right, I was just wondering if it was worth getting certain apps in for main for the CD01:05
asacno01:05
micahgk01:05
asacthere is not much of a difference01:05
asacfeedback from alpha stages is not that high for apps01:05
asacwhich is why we use two betas this cycle01:05
asacusually folks start to test for beta or even RC01:06
micahgasac: k, I guess the goal then is to have at least lucid done by beta 1?01:06
asacmicahg: two weeks ;)01:06
micahghaha...k...I'll do my best :)01:06
asacyeah. all will be fine01:06
asac;)01:06
asacfor apps that turn out to be painful, we kill them01:06
asaci added a list of insecure apps to the wiki ... those apps need to be ready when 3.0/3.5 goes EOL01:07
asacchris is working on the most painful one .. epiphany01:07
micahgasac: well, 3.0 is already01:07
asacone month01:07
asacmicahg: its EOL ... but not lacking security fixes atm01:08
micahgasac: right, k, where's the list?01:08
asaconce there is a new security update without 3.0 we need to have the bits ready01:08
asacmicahg: on the xulrunner-list page01:08
micahgah, ok01:08
asacat the bottom01:09
asacmicahg: which of tohse are already building?01:10
asacnone?01:10
micahgprism should be fine, but I haven't tried yet01:10
micahglet me check01:10
micahgmiro looks fine01:11
micahgalthough there's a new version in lucid I have to tet01:11
micahg*test01:11
asacmicahg: well. for miro etc. we have to port the version used in hardy etc. rather than backporting stuff ---- if possible01:12
micahgasac: k, well it built with no changes in Lucid01:12
asacyes, but hardy might be a different thing01:13
asacwe should definitly stage xul 192 for all releases01:13
micahgasac: I'm assuming lucid comes first?01:13
asac(maybe skip intrepid for now)01:13
asacmicahg: at best in parallel01:13
micahgasac: so main for all releases then univers?01:13
micahg*universe?01:13
asacinsecure apps for all relesaes01:14
micahgasac: k01:14
micahgI guess I'll uploaded them all this weekend to see what breaks01:14
asacfor lucid everything01:14
asacor kill01:14
asacyeah. thats good01:14
micahgand start the log ;)01:14
asacpush xul192 ... then when built just push everything01:14
asacalso we need to testrun the builds01:15
asacmicahg: oh ... i think you appended ~... to version for such pushes01:18
asacwe should increase the version over what is in the archive01:18
micahgasac: I did01:18
asacso if you take ubuntu7 ... use ubuntu7.0ffox3501:18
asacor something01:18
micahgthere ware some uploads01:18
asackk01:18
asacbut you used ~ ;)01:18
micahgwell, if it's ubuntu7, I did ubuntu8~ffox36~lucid101:19
asacyes. that assumes that next upload would be ubuntu801:19
asacwhich you dont know01:19
asacmaybe it will be ubuntu8.101:19
asacerr 7.101:19
micahgonly if it's after release01:19
asacyou dont know ;)01:19
micahgthat makes sense for the stable releases though01:19
asacit makes sense everywhere01:20
micahgwhy would someone do an ubuntu point release in devel?01:20
asacmuch safer01:20
asaceven if it doesnt matter ;)01:20
micahgasac: k01:20
asacyou dont know... some do a ubuntu7.build101:20
micahgI'll do that for future uploads unless you want me to redo the ones I already pushed01:21
micahgasac: can we do a FF upload on monday?01:24
micahgasac: also, if an theme was installed before in .install, should that be changed to use dh_xul-ext01:28
ari-tczewmicahg: is xulrunner-1.9.2-dev available in Ubuntu official repository?01:30
ari-tczewor only ppa?01:30
micahgari-tczew: not yet, PPA only01:30
micahgYou can add a PPA dependency on your own PPA to test01:30
ari-tczewouh, right, can I add your ppa @ pbuilder source list?01:31
micahgari-tczew: i dont' see why not01:31
ari-tczewmicahg: FTBFS still exist :-/02:15
micahgari-tczew: worked for me02:15
ari-tczewI think that problem is with gcc 4.402:15
ari-tczewmicahg: did you test latest debian revision?02:15
micahgari-tczew: no02:15
micahg0.9.5-302:15
ari-tczewso, I test -602:16
micahghmm02:16
micahgari-tczew: idk, I'm running out soon...I woudl suggest looking at the debian changes from -3 to -6 for a clue02:17
ari-tczewright, but not now, going to bed, cya02:18
stefanlsdhi guys, im looking at fixing gears for lucid, i build the xpi and install it, although the addon doesnt seem to work, is there a way to debug what the addon is doing? (tried launching firefox from command line, dont see anything...)05:42
micahgstefanlsd: probably has to be built against xul19205:51
stefanlsdmicahg: mm, whats the package name for xul 1.9.2?06:00
micahgstefanlsd: not in archive yet06:00
micahgstefanlsd: here's the PPA with it: https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ffox35/06:01
micahgxulrunner-1.9.206:01
stefanlsdmicahg: ah ok. is it gonna land in archive soon?06:03
micahgstefanlsd: yes, probably this week06:10
stefanlsdmicahg: kk. thanks, will wait to it gets into archive then build and test against it06:19
micahgstefanlsd: nah, you can test in PPA now06:20
micahgin fact I already did and it failed06:20
stefanlsdmicahg: tested what?06:21
micahggears06:21
micahgstefanlsd: https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ffox35/+build/151428906:21
stefanlsdmicahg: not sure what that error is about. i fixed gears to build not for firefox 3.6 (updated to new svn version). it compiles on lucid pbuilder and firefox says its enabled, it just doesnt actually work. so i'll just wait for 1.9.2 in archive06:30
micahgstefanlsd: k06:32
kecsapasac: hi, are you here? I marked bug 222283 as duplicate of 123713 which is assigned to you. Can I reassign to me 123713 to come up something updated package description for ubufox?09:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 222283 in ubufox "Description is useless (dup-of: 123713)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22228309:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 123713 in ubufox "package description needs rewrite" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12371309:16
micahgkecsap: usually a little later on Sunday10:20
kecsapok10:45
fta!info processingjs16:37
fta!info processing-js16:37
ubottuPackage processingjs does not exist in karmic16:38
ubottuPackage processing-js does not exist in karmic16:38
fta!itp16:40
ftaasac, do we ship the jsshell somewhere?17:39
asacfta: no21:32
asacits not produced by the js tree from moz-cenral21:32
asacactually i had issues building tracemonkey branch standalone21:53
asacso not sure ... maybe they recently added a configure flag to moz-central to enable that21:53
ftaasac, i need it22:03
fta# If your jsshell isn't at ./tools/js/src/js, update JS below22:03
ftaTOOLSDIR=./tools22:03
ftaJS=$(TOOLSDIR)/js/src/js22:03
ftafor stuff like this:22:03
ftaminified: create-release22:03
fta        $(TOOLSDIR)/minifier.py $(JS) processing.js > ./release/processing-$(VERSION).min.js22:03
ftaasac, ^^, that's for http://processingjs.org/22:06
asac*shrug* ... have to check if there is a way ;)22:13
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