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dbronouveau has similar - but milder - behavior. Memory usage increases by 0.2MB when I minimize and restore a system monitor window.00:10
dbrovirtual memory increases by a bit more than 2MB00:10
dbrocan anyone else see this same behavior?00:15
dbrois there more information I can provide? eg xrestop or something like that?00:29
RAOFdbro: And does that continue to increase indefinately?01:59
RAOFdbro: Other interesting datapoints include dmesg & Xorg.0.log.01:59
dhillon-v10bryceh: can you have a look at this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/429384 it is reported against karmic alpha 5 so does it make sense to ask the reporter to check if this problem exists in lucid devel. release and mark the bug incomplete or should I just leave this one alone02:17
ubottuUbuntu bug 429384 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i965] [karmic i386 alpha 5] X hangs (intel 965gm)" [Undecided,New]02:17
brycehdhillon-v10, yes, we probably will only care about lucid bugs here on out02:20
dhillon-v10bryceh: alright so can I'll mark others with karmic tag incomplete :)02:21
brycehdhillon-v10, thanks, that'd be a big help02:22
brycehdhillon-v10, btw once the original reporter has tested it on lucid, tag it 'lucid'02:23
brycehdhillon-v10, when I go through X bugs, I only look at ones tagged 'lucid' now02:23
dhillon-v10bryceh: np :) oh yeah I'll keep that in mind :) 02:23
brycehdhillon-v10, generally I don't count it as tested against lucid if some other random person tested it, since they usually haven't provided the full collection of needed info that the original reporter gave02:24
brycehand plus, who knows if the person *actually* had the same bug, or just something that seemed similar to them02:24
brycehbut use your judgment there02:25
brycehusually we want the other person to report their issue as a separate bug report.  We have to do that anyway if we upstream the bug.02:25
dhillon-v10bryceh: alright, thanks for the advice02:28
dbroRAOF: it increases only when I perform those actions. The increment happens when I trigger it, not simply due to passing time02:31
dbroRAOF: what should I look for in dmesg? I can't see anything since bootup02:32
dbroRAOF: and what should I look for in Xorg.0.log? No obvious errors apparent there either02:33
RAOFdbro: Various forms of nouveau kernel debug spew; also it would allow me to determine a couple of things about your setup such as your card generation, whether it needs firmware, whether it *has* firmware, etc.02:33
RAOFdbro: Just pastebinning them would be good; I can easily check through them for items of interest.02:34
dbrook, should I put it in a pastebin page or something like that?02:34
dbrook02:34
dbroRAOF: re Xorg.0.log - how many lines should I include? It seems to go back to before the current boot02:38
RAOFdbro: All of them will do.  If you've got “pastebinit” installed, just go “dmesg | pastebinit” and “pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log”.02:39
dbroRAOF: ok. http://www.pastebin.com/m39087e9d02:40
dbroand the dmesg is here:  http://www.pastebin.com/m43f96c9f02:41
dbroand my xorg.conf is http://www.pastebin.com/m764f40e502:43
dbro(it's got a lot of commented lines... sorry about that)02:43
RAOFTHat pastebin seems to be empty?02:45
dbrouh oh...02:46
dbrofirst one?02:46
RAOFThe last 2.02:46
dbrosorry- I should't have included the "www." in those 2.02:47
dbroso they are http://pastebin.com/m43f96c9f02:47
dbroand http://pastebin.com/m764f40e502:47
RAOFTa.  I'm off for a while, but I'll have a look at them when I get back.02:47
dbrothanks, I'll keep an eye on this window02:48
dhillon-v10bryceh: mission accomplished :) the only bugs left in new state are in lucid03:05
dhillon-v10bryceh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New03:06
brycehdhillon-v10, nice03:08
dhillon-v10bryceh: yeah around 33 left, now time to fix them :)03:08
brycehactually we'll probably need to have them test against the 2.6.33 drm; quite likely their bugs are fixed there03:09
brycehso if we end up bringing that in, we'll be able to close the bugs03:09
RAOFdbro: Hm.  Interesting.  How much does your graphics actually work again? :).  You've got the nvidia binary driver loading as well, which is unlikely to improve matters :)04:46
RAOFdbro: Also, you've got quite an old nouveau kernel module which isn't using KMS.04:47
RAOFThat's not necessarily a problem, but it might be fixed in a newer version.  Also, you've got the same chipset as me, so I'll see if I can reproduce it.04:50
RAOFdbro: I can't reproduce your memleak: I've minimised & restored a system monitor window about 20 times now; memory usage has oscilated between 32MiB and 31.9MiB.  Virtual size has remained static at 154.7MiB.04:57
RAOFdbro: It might be interesting for you to try a Lucid alpha 3 livecd; that should have nouveau by default so would be a good environment to see if your bug has been fixed.04:57
dbrook. is that available now?05:14
dbrohow can I get the extra nvidia driver to not load?05:16
RAOFAlpha 3 is not yet out; you could either blacklist the nvidia driver or remove the nvidia-source package (I'm not sure what Ubuntu version you're running, so I'm not sure what the exact package name will be).05:19
dbroRAOF: thanks for the suggestions. I removed the nvidia source package, then rebooted. there was no mention of the nvidia driver in dmesg, only nouveau was loaded. and now I see no change in Memory usage by x when minimizing and restoring the system monitor window. However, I do see an increase in xorg's virtual memory usage when minimizing and restoring the system monitor window.06:24
dbroabout 2MB per minimize,restore cycle06:24
dbroRAOF: should I try to use a more recent version of nouveau, eg by following these instructions? https://edge.launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/nouveau 07:04
RAOFdbro: You could give it a whirl.  Of course, I'd be more interested in your Lucid experience (once Alpha 3 has landed), since that's what we're going to be supporting :)07:07
dbroupgrading to the lucid versions of the nouveau packages seems to involve a lot of other package removals and upgrades- is there a way to avoid that?07:08
RAOFYou don't want to do that - I was thinking more a livecd situation.07:09
dbrook07:09
dbroI will try the live cd -- expected to be available feb 25, right?07:09
* RAOF rechecks the release schedule. Why isn't it in my google calendar?07:10
RAOFYup.  25th, all things going smoothly.07:11
dbrothanks again. good night!07:11
tjaaltonbryceh: you need to take nvidia-graphics-drivers a separate entry on the bug chart, it's starting to make the "Remainder" look bad/worse :)09:43
tjaaltonserial wacom support for xserver now in git11:01
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