[00:00] Daughain: heh. === sixofour is now known as fourosix === fourosix is now known as sixzerofour === zbenjamin is now known as zbenjamin|away === bruno is now known as Guest40761 === jhing is now known as Alzier [01:53] elo to all here [01:57] Sup [02:16] I'm switching form ubuntu to kubuntu :D [02:16] *from [02:17] Cool. KDE is pretty good, just needs decent hardware [02:17] I'm not sur I'd reccomend it for most people, but I deffinitly love it :D [02:17] *sure [02:19] I gave a static ip to my system by changing /etc/network/interfaces.Everything works great but knetworkmanager shows that i'm not connected and connection name changed [02:23] matthew_: Kongrats :) [02:28] daskreech: Oh boy :P [02:28] Thanks :P [02:29] :-D [02:29] what repository is supposed to have virtuoso? I've have karmic-backports main restricted universe multiverse, but apt-cache search virtuoso returns nothing [02:31] hobs: which virtuoso ? [02:41] hi, do you know where can I find packages for Koffice 2.1.1? [02:44] hobs: er, virtuoso is a kde 4.4 thing afaik [02:44] 4.3 and earlier were using sesame or redland [02:45] virtuoso stable releases weren't around when karmic was released, that's why you're not finding anything [02:47] What is the fastest / easyest way to remove all of my windows stuff, and make my machine totally kubuntu? [02:48] Zeeb-: 'use entire disk' w/the kubuntu installer [02:49] Zeeb-: Format if you want "fastest" that means you lose all your data [02:49] Yeah, I want to completely wipe my computer of anything windows related and just keep kubuntu [02:51] How do I "use entire dist space" with the installer? ( Big noob here ) >.> [02:53] There is an option that says Use entire disk =P [02:54] I'm lost at the installer part lol XD [02:54] Wher is this "installer" [02:55] Zeeb-: are you using the liveCD? [02:55] No, I just downloaded thw wubi from the site [02:57] Zeeb-: ah, but you want to delete all windows? [02:57] Yes :D [02:58] Zeeb-: ok, then you need to download the CD image of Kubuntu 9.10 from the Web site www.kubuntu.org [02:58] And then what? === zoe_ is now known as zoe [02:58] Zeeb-: and choose your procesore type, x86 or x86_64 (amd64) [02:59] Unless you have 4 gigs+ of ram, stick with x86 [03:00] Zeeb-: then it will start downloading, you have to save the file in your hard drive. When it is ready, then burn the CD image to the disc with Nero or InfraRecorder [03:00] Personally, I like imgburn http://www.imgburn.com/ =P But his options work too =) [03:01] So I actually need a cd-rom? [03:01] I can't just mount it? [03:01] Not if you want to wipe out windows [03:01] ah okay [03:01] Zeeb-: you can use a usb memory disc [03:01] I want the "live cd" version right? [03:01] yes [03:04] Zeeb-: when downloaded you can follow the steps here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#Windows to burn the cd image correctly to the CD, as image not as data. [03:05] Alright cool, thank you! I have some big daddy cd's and I wouldn't want to waste my money ya know? : [03:05] That should help greatly :D [03:06] Zeeb-: or you can "burn" it to a flash memory using http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [03:06] How big is the file? [03:06] Zeeb-: ~700MB [03:06] I don't know how to make it show up on my little download manager thing :/ [03:07] Zeeb-: if you use the flash memory option, then remember that burning the image to the memory will delete all the data there. [03:07] Zeeb-: which program? [03:07] mhmm, I don't believe I have any thumb drives atm. i'll just to the disk method [03:08] I'm using the default web browser [03:08] Default of what? [03:08] WIndows? [03:08] or kubuntu? [03:09] kubuntu [03:10] OK and what are you trying to find? [03:10] Zeeb-: ah, you instlled kubuntu in windows? [03:10] the iso you downloaded? It's likely in ~/Documents [03:10] No no, I'm trying to figure out how to make the web broswer's download tool display the files size and download rate. [03:11] Zeeb-: in Kubuntu you'll probably just click the system tray [03:11] it keeps all that info [03:12] Like, the thing that saids "1 running job (5 minutes remaining)" [03:14] Yes [03:17] Would I be able to burn it on to a dvd-rw 4x 4.7gb disk? === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant [03:18] Yes [03:18] Yay, don't have to use one of my expensive disks :3 === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [03:28] now I just boot from this cd? [03:29] Zeeb-: That's the Idea :) It boots into a Kubuntu desktop so yo ucan come back here if you like [03:30] But it will remove my windows correct? [03:32] Zeeb-: no, it won't. there's an option to "try before you buy" if you like. [03:33] so you can boot into kubuntu before installing it. and then you can install kubuntu and keep windows on your computer, choosing which you want to boot into when you turn on your computer [03:34] Zeeb-: if you install and choose use the whole disk [03:35] yep. if you want to. I just assumed you'd want to keep windows. [03:35] Fersure: not really :0 [03:35] :-) [03:35] Where do I go to view how much space is on my hard drive? [03:36] Zeeb-_: where are you? [03:36] daskreech: well most people do. though the reasons for such a thing are beyond me. :P [03:36] um... no where XD [03:36] Fersure: Comfort [03:36] hey everybody [03:36] Zeeb-_: Windows or Kubuntu ? [03:37] !hi | brandon_ [03:37] brandon_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! [03:37] oh, kubuntu [03:37] hey brandon_ [03:37] I know all must get tired of n00bs like me but Im having trouble installing WoW [03:38] hi guys, I just want to say, that update from 4.3.5 to 4.4.0 made kde unusable [03:38] What's the konsole command to remove a file? [03:38] enkidu: well kde 4.4 isn't stable yet. you're welcome to report bugs and such. [03:38] rm [03:38] can anyone help? [03:38] Fersure: its (k)ubuuntu problem [03:38] not kde one [03:39] enkidu: yes, the packages for kde 4.4 in kubuntu are not stable yet. [03:39] they're still in alpha. [03:39] just aptitude is marking for delete freshly installed packages [03:39] I dont expect stability [03:40] "rm: cannot remove `/media/windowsvista/': Is a directory" .... How do I fix that? [03:40] I just need to know how to load the patch downloader for World of warcraft, if anyone has any experience in this Itd be great to know [03:40] yeah I understand. same thing happened to me the other day when I tried upgrading to alpha 2. [03:40] Zeeb-_: are you trying to delete windows from your system? [03:41] what package allows me to view encrypted DVD's? [03:41] Fersure: anyways, ubuntu "init" cannot even run udev >.< [03:41] Sakui: libdvdcss [03:41] enkidu: ...wth.. [03:41] well for me kubuntu wouldn't even boot lolol [03:42] enkidu: it's not showing up. [03:42] -just- from upgrading [03:42] but then I suppose it could be to do with the fact that I had to upgrade via aptitude dist-upgrade :d [03:43] Sakui: you need the medibuntu repository for libdvdcss. www.medibuntu.org [03:43] Fersure: it coulnt find disks? [03:44] enkidu: can't remember exactly what happened. but grub worked thankfully. [03:44] but yeah, none of the kernels I had would boot up :d [03:45] I have to press ESC, then type "/etc/init.d/udev start" and press ctrl-d [03:45] weir [03:45] *Weird [03:45] yeah [03:45] as everything seems to be configured properly [03:46] ubuntu is really going to be linux alternative for linux - it can stop working just because you use it >.< [03:46] for windows* [03:46] i should be sleeping for two hours [03:48] ok, time to remove KDE [03:48] and then try clean install [03:49] or fall back to mandriva [04:09] enkidu: Go back to Windows [04:09] Hello. i just installed ubuntu 9.10 (w/ gnome) and im trying to install kde as well. i added all the related packages [that i could find] via synaptic; however, when i log into KDE, it just shows a blank screen (no desktop background, icons, panel, etc etc). am i missing something? [04:09] jesse2: Why not simply download the Kubuntu .iso and install it that way? [04:10] feasibilitystudy: i typically use gnome most of the time, just wanted to give kde 4.4 a try [04:10] it depends on how you installed KDE..Would need to know the exact steps and packages you installed [04:11] ah, i see. i'm probably better off just reinstalling it then [04:11] thanks [04:11] I never like installing KDE on top of gnome or vice versa [04:11] it always gives problems [04:12] Unless you're on Gentoo where they have slots. [04:15] xjjk, according to http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4 it is available, I am running 4.4 already through backports, but virtuoso is missing [04:15] hobs: you mentioned karmic-backports... 4.4 is only in the PPA backports [04:15] completely different repositories [04:16] I run 4.4 and virtuoso seems to work here [04:16] can you check what you're using? [04:19] xjjk, what is the url to ppa? [04:19] complete line to sources.list that is [04:19] ppa.launchpad.net/? [04:20] hobs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/381355/ [04:20] that should contain KDE 4.4 [04:20] thank you [04:20] !wow [04:20] Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php [04:20] if you're using karmic-backports (which is an official Canonical repository), it only contains KDE 4.3.4 [04:20] the repository situation with Kubuntu is very confusing [04:20] there are like 3 or 4 PPAs [04:21] some kind of "primary"/testing PPA, a backports PPA, an experimental PPA, and a beta PPA [04:21] er, staging is probably a better word than "primary"/testing [04:22] this would probably make a good blog post === tom__ is now known as crweb [04:24] nods === ubuntu_ is now known as usman [04:46] Okay so, I'm running Kubuntu 9.10 64bit and I'm having issues with Flash and sound. [04:46] xjjk, got it running, thanks [04:52] hobs: great [04:58] anyone here have any idea how to edit the width of text in a plasmoid? [04:59] im using yasp and its too wide, so some of the text goes off the screen (its on a panel sidebar) [05:02] hi, how do i disable the "Devices recently plugged in" box that pops up when i put cd in? It's annoying and y9ou cant close it [05:05] seanbrystone: it's controlled by the applet I think [05:05] remove that applet [05:05] if you want to keep the applet and just remove the notification, I don't know unfortunately [05:05] it bothers me too but I've just lived with it [05:08] I can't login to kubuntu! [05:08] Every time it kicks me back to the login screen :( [05:08] This was after an update if that helps [05:10] Anyone know whats going on? [05:13] Okay so, I'm running Kubuntu 9.10 64bit and I'm having issues with Flash and sound. Can anyone help me resolve this? [05:17] Hi [05:17] Does KUbuntu come with SElinux? [05:17] GungaDin: No [05:18] Alright. [05:18] thx [05:42] I just upgraded my 9.04 to 9.10. Sound is now gone. Various sound drivers are loaded according to the lsmod output but I have nothing. [06:16] FeasibilityStudy: huh? [06:16] It's not hard to remove KDE [06:40] joel% [06:43] I've got some samba cifs mount problems at boot, and at shutdown as well - any takers? :) [06:44] I've got a bunch of samba shares in fstab - only SOME of them actually mount at startup, but a sudo mount -a works no probs - i connect via wireless [06:49] gregg: Umm try not putting them beside each other in fstab? [06:51] you really think that would help daskreech? [06:52] gregg: Well you are doing a non standard mount across a network with lag and latency [06:52] running multiple of them at the same time can't be good I think [06:55] ok daskreech thx [06:55] Okay, Fresh install. Running updates. First time I've ever installed Linux. What should I do first? [06:56] quassel actually aint that bad. [06:56] still miss xchat a lil tho [06:57] Can I save my password in Quassel? [06:57] panicgrip: which password? [06:57] for nickserv? [06:58] just put it in as the server password in the config dialog. [06:59] Got it [07:00] panicgrip: What dod you wnat to do === orion_ is now known as Guest65707 === fstl is now known as explore [07:18] Cany anyone suggest an FTP cleint? [07:18] anyone here know an alternative to gnome-do? [07:18] panicgrip, konquerer? [07:19] Wasn't aware of that functionality. [07:21] how would one set a keyboard shortcut in kde to show desktop? [07:22] Did yous see anything under Launcher>Computer>System Settings>Keyboard Settings [07:25] Does CTRL+F12 do it? [07:30] hiiii [07:32] www.search2.net [07:34] hi === alvin_ is now known as alvin [07:36] Will Ubuntu 10.04 have /tmp as tmpfs? [07:42] alvin: ask in #ubuntu+1, please [07:44] Mamarok: thx. will do [07:50] panicgrip: hi [07:51] daskreech, how's it going? [07:51] Prety good [07:52] Any clue what a guy has to do to refresh the font list in Kubuntu, after installing some new fonts via the packet manager? === toimisto is now known as Vge [08:36] alvin: what a problem? [08:38] panicgrip: You mean fonts:/ ? [08:46] enkidu: Yes. I noticed on 2 computers that there are old files in /tmp that prevent a successfull start of X [08:48] alvin: strange, /tmp should not block you [08:48] but u can still edit fstab manually, not waiting for devs [08:49] fortunately, ubuntu devs didnt replaced that file with "better new one" as they did with /sbin/init [08:50] yet... [08:50] I now. I just wanted to know because you never know what an upgrade would do with such a customization [08:51] Oh, and it is strange, but if I clear the /tmp, kdm can be restarted, so the problem must be in that dir [08:51] upgrade u say... who would think, that upgrading KDE to 4.4.0 can prevent udev from starting? [08:54] udev? Had no troubles there. Akonadi on the other hand... [08:55] more funny - I removed kde-full metapackage, aptitude removed NetworkManager as no-longer-needed === zbenjamin|away is now known as zbenjamin [08:55] how do I make a script run at startup? [08:56] if you mind system startup - ask on #ubuntu, especially someone, that invented upstart thingie [08:59] alvin: Akonadi problesm on Kubuntu are usually caused by apparmor: http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi#Some_Technical_Issues [08:59] problems* [09:00] someone tell me, why aptitude is marking kdm and plasma as not-needed? [09:01] Mamarok: I know, especially here, but I switched my /home to NFS4 ipv NFS3 and that made those problems better. [09:02] enkidu: do you have gdm installed? [09:03] Mamarok: nope [09:04] enkidu: what are you upgrading from? [09:04] Mamarok: kubuntu 9.10 to launchpad-ppa [09:04] enkidu: you mean KDE 4.3.x to KDE SC 4.4? [09:04] yeah [09:05] because your line didn't make much sense, there are not less than 4 Kubuntu PPAs [09:05] forgive me, I couldnt sleep this night [09:05] no problem :) [09:06] you shouldn't use aptitude for it, for some strange reason it doesn't work well for upgrades [09:06] sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is the safer way [09:06] it wasnt safe way [09:06] ? [09:06] I finished with mix of libs from both 4.3.5 and sc 4.4 [09:06] enkidu: that's why I tell you not to use aptitude :) [09:07] use apt-get, that works [09:07] I did it with apt-get [09:07] :D [09:07] dont ask me, haw [09:07] dist-upgrade? [09:07] yeah [09:07] Let me just tell you guys that aptitude is the preferred package manager in Debian/Ubuntu [09:07] enkidu: then something is worng in your sources, whst mirror are you using? [09:08] alvin: and the kubuntu devs found a bug in exactly that [09:08] was there some nice console command to use pastebin for text stream? :) [09:08] enkidu: pastebinit [09:09] !paste [09:09] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [09:09] ah, nevermind, ill just run browser by now [09:09] Hi there. I've primarily used kde in the good old days (1.1.x - 2.0), and then again with kubuntu 6.06. I wanted to give kubuntu a spin again, after having run gnome for quite a while. Is there any tips you might share, in terms of good applications, usability tips, etc.? I see a lot has happened in terms of this so called social desktop. [09:10] Gecko: that is a lot of questions in one line, how about checking http://www.kde.org? [09:10] also http://userbase.kde.org is a good source [09:10] Mamarok: Do you have a link to the bug report? [09:10] alvin: not at hand, no [09:11] Mamarok: http://pastebin.org/95190 my stripped sources.list [09:11] bloated as hell ;) [09:11] hi [09:12] im trying to install cegui, but it asks for libsilly, which doesnt seem to be in the repos [09:12] any idea how to install this? [09:12] tar xf ... [09:12] Mamarok: Sure, it wasn't a sort of "give me all the answers now!" question, but more of an open question if somebody had a great tip just handy or stood in a similar situation or something. I've tried the 4.x versions before and felt that they were a bit unpolished, but 4.4 seems very interesting [09:13] Gecko: dont touch 4.4 till it is not 'stable' [09:13] as 'unstable' for kde means 'will eat your hamster' [09:13] Gecko: well, your question was a bit too general, also this is a support channel, tips would be rather a question for #kubuntu-offtopic [09:13] enkidu: it seems stable so far, but I'll leave your advice in mind [09:14] enkidu: please don't tell things you can't prove, I run KDE SC 4.4 here and it is stalbe [09:14] stable* [09:14] Mamarok: point taken. I'll join that channel [09:14] Mamarok: maybe I just dont have luck for it? [09:15] enkidu: mabe your mirror has problems, try switching to the main mirror [09:15] enkidu: I have nothing mixed here, and it never tried to remove kdm [09:15] probably aptitude screwed up something, nevermind [09:16] my mirror is OK, as it is only one I trust [09:16] I know its admin personally ;) [09:17] does kde have a program/command to restore deleted menu items? [09:18] kaniiNIX: you mean the main menu? kappfinder can find the apps that are not in that menu [09:18] and add it automatically [09:20] nah, didnät find them... some wine menu items are lost... [09:20] didn'tÄ [09:26] hey [09:26] any idea how to get kde 4.4 ? [09:26] Mamarok: installing network-manager should make entry in /etc/init/ or it is done by upstart? [09:28] enkidu: no idea, sorry [09:28] phrearch: see the topic of the channel, please [09:28] kaniiNIX: are you sure it is installed? And how did it get removed? [09:30] Mamarok: thanks! [09:31] phrearch: you are welcome [09:36] Mamarok: i accidentally deleted them, and yes the programs are installed [09:37] meh, kde4 was said to be netbooks-friendly, but it seems,that all devs have monitors bigger than 1024x600 [09:37] time to ask them for small change === lucampos is now known as __lmc [09:40] enkidu: you need the plasma-netbook release then [09:40] of course the desktop is not meant for netbooks [09:40] Mamarok: problem is not in plasma :) [09:41] as it works nearly as I want it to [09:41] hm, did an update, but plasma crashes now [09:41] but config windows are too high [09:41] enkidu: are you using the netbook desktop? [09:42] Mamarok: nope, as plasma-netbook seems to be more bloated than regular one [09:43] it is not, since it is exactly for netbooks, the regular desktop is not [09:44] sorry, I know how to check memory usage [09:44] and plasma-netbook looses that competition for me [09:45] I dont use many fancy plasmoids, only smoont tasks, as it saves spare used by tasks [09:46] space* [09:49] enkidu: you might want to comment on that in #kubuntu-netbook then, they might be the people to address with problems [09:49] hm, back to irssi === root is now known as Guest59168 [09:50] some packages are withdrawn from upgrading [09:50] any idea how that can be solved? im trying kde 4.4 sc [09:51] i guess i need to install the kde-full package [09:52] !nfs [09:52] nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS. [09:53] ping [09:54] Guest59168: yes ? [09:56] looks like i disconnected === eruarantemp is now known as Eruaran [10:00] hi all [10:01] i use nfs's shares and if i create eg. a file or a folder the perms for this new file/folder is user=username group=username.. [10:01] is there a way to get group=groupname? [10:01] cause.. there is a windows user that connects to the same folder over normal samba.. [10:02] so i need a setup, that if the user that connects over nfs and creat a file/folder the group perms is a specifix group [10:02] bad english.. sorry. [10:08] how do I restart the sound system? === HanzZ_test is now known as h_test === coaboa_ is now known as coaboa [11:17] why when I am running paralell sessions with kde/x/kubuntu is it timing out and rebooting one of my sessions? [11:34] hey guys what's the comman to reset apt [11:55] Hello! I just installed kubuntu 9.10 and I can't figure out how to change the appearance of the taskbar... === steveire is now known as steveire_lunch [12:01] Longjohns_75659: the colour/theme? [12:01] Longjohns_75659: if so, system settings -> advanced -> desktop theme details. [12:03] thats for changing the theme details, hang on a sec, Ill tell you where to change the theme [12:05] Longjohns_75659: ok, looks lsystem settings -> style -> appearance -> workspace tab :) [12:06] jussi01, should I look for style under "General" or "Advanced"? [12:09] jussi01, the search function can't find "workspace" [12:10] Longjohns_75659: wait a sec, which version of kubuntu are you on? [12:10] 9.10, freshly installed, jussi01 [12:11] I've been a KDE user for about 10 years, but a couple of hours with KDE 4 has me considering migrating to Gnome :p [12:11] Longjohns_75659: sorry, my instructions were a little off. [12:11] in system settings, go to appearance [12:12] then, in the style part, click the workspace tab. [12:13] I can't find a workspace tab there, jussi01 [12:13] bonjours ? [12:13] !fr [12:13] sa va bien ? [12:13] Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois [12:13] Longjohns_75659: hrm, maybe 9.10 came out with the old way. try going to your desktop and right clicking, see if there is a desktop settings or so there [12:15] There is, but I can't find anything about the taskbar there either, jussi01 [12:16] Longjohns_75659: k, youll need to wait for someone with the 9.10 version, but you are looking for the plasma theme. [12:16] I installed Kubuntu remix on my laptop and after grub it goes to just a plain black screem [12:16] Longjohns_75659: or perhaps you could provide me with a screenshot of your system settings appearance page [12:16] screen* [12:16] Longjohns_75659: there's no (simple) way to change panel look alone anymore [12:17] Tm_T: do you know which way it was in the 9.10 release? could you help him to change his plasma theme? [12:18] jussi01: cannot remember and oldest KDE I have working is todays trunk [12:18] any ideas? [12:19] jussi01, getting that dcc? [12:19] Longjohns_75659: no, I dont do dcc. could you put it on imagebin or so? [12:19] (imagebin.ca) [12:20] Wouldn't I have to register an account for that? [12:20] no [12:20] imagebin is verymuch like pastebin, but for pictures :) [12:21] http://imagebin.ca/view/bLsW1EK.html [12:24] Was that of any use, jussi01? [12:24] Longjohns_75659: ok, so its an updated thing then. hrm. could you give me a screen shot of when you right click the desktop and click the desktop settings (or simialr wording) === ubuntu_ is now known as snarkster [12:25] jussi01: http://imagebin.ca/view/5R-WS_M.html [12:26] Longjohns_75659: yeah, the desktop theme is what you are after [12:27] i just added a new large hd to my laptop. I need to adjust grub to boot linux off that drive. I have the howto from the ubuntu website but it isnt working like it said it should [12:27] can anyone help? [12:28] Life was easier with kcontrol :p [12:28] system0setting is pretty easy to get used to [12:28] Longjohns_75659: it gets easier in 4.4, trust me :) [12:29] is it possible to boot them system under the old install and adjust grub from there to boot from the new drive? [12:30] !grub | snarkster, have you done the instructions here for after windows install? [12:30] snarkster, have you done the instructions here for after windows install?: grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards. [12:31] yup, windows boots just fine, linux boots just fine, just wanna move my boot drive for linux to the new drive. [12:31] Great, changing the theme there made it all fuck up :p [12:32] Longjohns_75659: watch the language please [12:32] currently i have two installs of kubuntu 9.10 but only one shows up on the grub menu (the old one) I have reinstalled kubuntu on a new 640 GB drive want to leave windows on its own 250 GB drive. [12:33] everything still works like its supposed to, just the wrong one. LOL [12:33] snarkster: doh ! [12:33] i printed the grub howto, but the commands are turning up eithe rnot working, or s=not showing anything while using my usb install drive [12:34] snarkster: but did you follow the instructions for lost grub after installing windows? (it applies also in this situation) [12:34] yup [12:34] i did df / and it showed aufs instead of /dev/sda1 [12:35] really strange.. btw needed to install grub on the usb drive (i know it wont stay there) cause grub isnt available by default on the live cd === steveire_lunch is now known as steveire [12:40] would be easier to just blow away the old linux partiton (increasing the size of the windows partition to full capacity and reinstall kubuntu on the new drive? [12:41] cause i can do that in just a matter of a few minutes [12:41] snarkster, make sure everything is backed up :p [12:41] i already rsynced all my home directory to the new drive. [12:50] Hm. The application keybindings I set in kmenuedit aren't working. Any thoughts where I should start looking for the problem? === bwells is now known as bwellsnc [12:53] Oh well [12:53] Thanks for trying, jussi01 === jelmer__ is now known as sssparkkk [13:03] Hej [13:03] :) [13:08] I have an US English Karmic Kubuntu install. I require the ability to input both English and Japanese Kana/Kanji. (1) Is there a program that does this program conversion and then you can copy and paste without modifying the install? (2) Is there a way to toggle the keyboard input method on the fly between English and Japanese? The install must remain English. === james is now known as Guest34170 === sjors__ is now known as SjorsGerits [13:19] wer am i === fstl is now known as explore === matteo is now known as Guest2964 === test is now known as Guest19564 === six is now known as six6 [14:02] bonjour francais ? [14:03] ?? [14:03] !fr [14:03] Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois === zbenjamin is now known as zbenjamin|away === orion_ is now known as Guest92674 === ajazdzewski is now known as atta [15:14] I have an annoying issue with theme switching [15:15] For one it doesn't update when you install a new theme, and 2 it crashes [15:15] Anyone else have a simular issue? [15:18] sate: this is something that slipped in the 4.4.0 release [15:18] So the 4.3 doesn't have that issue? [15:18] it should be fixed for 4.4.1, it happens only on theme changes on not every time actually [15:18] AFAIK not === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [15:19] What about installing more kde themes, not using the theme manager? [15:19] that possible? [15:19] sate: although i do not remember the bug saying that updating did not work, it only mentioned crashes upon theme changing [15:20] Kinda worried about my laptop running kde [15:20] sate: i have tried that a year ago [15:20] When I browse firefox, my cpu fan runs constantly [15:20] sate: you can download a file (which is a zipped file) extract it somewhere and the theme ppears in the theme browser [15:21] Can I ask you binarylooks if its possible to run kde, and not be so gpu intensive? [15:21] sate tried googe chrome? its quite good. [15:22] sate: turn off desktop effects is the only option [15:22] How do you turn them off? [15:22] maybe if you have strigi running you can turn that off too [15:22] sate: system settings > desktop [15:22] strigi? [15:22] sate: ok, step by step [15:23] sate: first open system settings [15:23] k turned off the desktop effects [15:23] now the strigi? [15:24] sate: strigi is a file index service, it looks trhough your file (content, not name) and stores data for later searches [15:24] right, but that won't reduce gpu load [15:24] Hi all [15:24] it is usually not turned on by default but maybe in your case [15:24] just cpu/ram [15:24] ;-}) [15:24] I got 2 gigs of ram [15:24] sate: processor and gpu? [15:25] umm 1.6 ghz duo [15:25] intel graphics 945 extreme i think [15:25] I ran counterstrike source on it once [15:26] I'm currently running KDE 4.4. with Strigi enabled on my netbook [15:26] does your fan turn on a lot? [15:26] and Strigi isn't slowing me down much at all [15:26] nope [15:26] Does your computer seem warm? [15:26] nope [15:26] But I've turned off compositing [15:26] I had this issue with win 7, so I went back to xp [15:27] I really don't wanna switch to ubuntu [15:27] can anybody help me with eric4? It doesn't save my preference.... [15:30] hello. i managed to activate and use a usb mobile broadband modem last night. is there an application to count the downloaded MB through it? [15:33] using the opesource radeon driver, what packages to i need to install to get the opengl-dev files? === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [15:36] hi there, what could be the cause of all the USB ports suddendly stop working? the usb printer, usb mouse and usb hard disk are not seen anymore (even after a newstart). it's not my pc, but my gfs. shes restarting now to see if windows has the same problem, but i'm already searching an answer if she comes back === Authority_ is now known as Authority [15:37] asraniel , hardware failure? , or the module that controls the usb has suddenly broken [15:38] sithlord48: i hope not. she tells me that it seems to work under windows [15:39] sithlord48: even though, not totaly sure [15:39] asraniel, very simple does it work under windows or not , if it don't i would think hardware... if it does think software in kubuntu [15:40] sithlord48: looks like some stuff like the mouse works under windows, but not the external hard disk [15:40] asraniel, and all the usb is down under kubuntu? [15:40] sithlord48: from what she tells me, yes [15:41] asraniel, thats very odd.. i would advise you log back in to kubuntu plug in some usb and see if you get any output from lsusb [15:41] asraniel, that should give you a listing of all your usb devices.. including hubs in the machine [15:42] sithlord48: i'll try that, lsusb, thanks for that command [15:42] asraniel, no problem.. im at work so i might just dissapear (if they give me real work to do that is) [15:42] asraniel, if im here let me know how it goes.. [15:43] NetworkManager overwrites /etc/resolv.conf each time it connects, but it doesn't automatically detect the broadband DNS and leaves the file empty, i have to re do it every time i connect [15:43] rav, you need to set that in NetworkManger for the connections DNS [15:44] sithlord48: NetworkManager doesn't have a DNS configuration option for mobile broadband [15:44] rav, oh i missed that part.. [15:45] rav, perhaps a script on connect to to either create or move the resolv.conf when you do connect [15:46] sithlord48: NetworkManager doesn't have a script option for mobile broadband either [15:46] rav, before you go thru lots of trouble have you attempted to use wicd as your network manager, not sure if it does mobile broad band.. or not.. [15:47] rav, it generally works better then NetworkManager (from my experince) [15:47] sithlord48: tonight i will try to use kppp instead, it does have all those options [15:48] rav, that is what i use to dial out my mobile (but mine is via a usb port, to my cell phone) [15:48] sithlord48: i did used it for a while in early jaunty, networkmanager hated my wifi card. but in karmic i've only used networkmanager [15:48] rav, sorry i use pppd.. [15:49] rav, if you wifi card is not wifi0 (wicd's default) you will have to give it the proper device (could that be why it don't like you wifi card?) [15:50] sithlord48: wicd did work, networkmanager was broken with my wifi card on jaunty. it works now on karmic with networkmanager, so i didn't install wicd on this install [15:50] rav, was wicd working for your mobile on jaunty ? [15:51] sithlord48: i didn't have the usb mobile modem then, i just got it. it was a struggle to get it to work, there's no info about it since i'm in ecuador [15:52] sithlord48: now that i know it works, i want it to work well :D === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [15:52] rav, i got you will i would try wicd, since it will handle all you connections and ez to install.. then if that don't work kppp is next [15:52] Qap [15:53] 0ac8:303b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0303 WebCam === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === avihay__ is now known as avihay [15:56] sithlord48: thanks, i'll give wicd a try [15:56] rav, no problem [16:02] aluien en castellano [16:02] alguien en castellano?? [16:02] !es | juan__ [16:02] juan__: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [16:02] gracias , por fin aluien que alluda [16:11] So my menu keybindings are no longer working in KDE 4.4 [16:11] They don't appear in the keybindings module === fire`lalala is now known as fire`lala [16:32] complete reinstall of k9.10 on new hard drive in a dula boot system. Have printed the howto still cant get it to boot kubuntu i get grub rescue prompt === Zorael^2 is now known as Zorael === ubuntu is now known as snarkster [16:37] am i going to have to reload both operating systems to get this fixed? === Corvus is now known as CorvusE === CorvusE is now known as Corvus === Corvus is now known as CorvusE [17:10] good morning [17:11] does Kopete have MSN webcam support in it on 9.10? kopete itself is supposed to, but on Kubuntu I have not been successful in getting webcam working with MSN. Kopete sees the webcam and I can see myself in it in the config screen, but on MSN there seems to be no way to use it [17:16] kubuntu/kde doesn't use pulseaudio for anything, right? [17:19] tzanger: i haven't tested it with msn, but it works for me skype and kopete - but i don' t know if its skype client or kopete displaying.. that confuses me.. === br is now known as Guest63111 [17:21] probably skype, as kopete's itnerface to skype is only for control [17:27] but its displaying the incoming webcam in a "kopete" window [17:27] not a skype window [17:34] test === qii_ is now known as qii [17:45] i am trying to open kontact but its refusing to load - how can i tell what the problem is? [18:00] hi i need help setting a global proxy [18:00] it seems to not work [18:00] however with export works [18:01] maybe i need to do something after set it at system -> network settings -> proxy [18:02] Is there a KDE3 for lucid? [18:02] !kde3 [18:02] Kubuntu 8.04 ships with KDE3 and full support. Jaunty does not include KDE3 but a remix install CD can be obtained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty . This is not officially supported. Support, instructions and ways to contribute can be found on the wiki page [18:02] or if there were, where would it be? [18:02] thanks [18:07] I found https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Karmic [18:21] I'M TROLLING [18:22] maple1: for fish? better luck here trolling for insects. [18:25] pretty slim pickin's here , that word already has the ops looking at you , if you need that kind of attention to feel alive then keep it up :) [18:26] what would cause me to not be able to right click on my desktop and get a context menu? [18:27] nvm, my mouse actions were all empty [18:27] I seem to have lost them somehow [18:28] DarkriftX: does right click have any response at any time? [18:29] no [18:30] but i added the mouse action back in and it works now [18:30] just not sure where/when they were lost [18:30] i used to have 3 actions set under there (by default [18:30] ) and i dont remember what they are [18:33] it really feels like an overall gui performance regression with my recent upgrade to 9.10/KDE4.4 [18:33] switch between desktops soo slow [18:33] switch between tasks soo slow [18:34] and all this with desktops effects turned off [18:34] anybody would have an advice on how to optimise this? [18:34] hey [18:34] can sme1 point me to a good link to make live usb via command line [18:35] bentob0x: glx no longer direct? you can run glxinfo|grep -i direct . I do not remember what package it is in. [18:35] live-sub creatoe is not working 4 me [18:35] creater* === jack is now known as Guest22269 [18:36] it is direct edakiri: [18:37] direct rendering: Yes [18:37] GL_EXT_Cg_shader, GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test, GL_EXT_direct_state_access, === mathias is now known as Guest50514 === orion_ is now known as Guest87921 [19:21] how do i make a mouse click send a key combo? [19:26] DarkriftX: kdesc44? system settings / input actions; there, new / mouse gesture action / send keyboard input ; give that a try [19:26] hrmmmm, trying now [19:27] it doesnt take a button press, just a gesture :( [19:27] but that was close === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez === hanzz is now known as Guest94797 [19:36] anyone knows about a good high definition webcam that works well in ubuntu, including skype? === AlexZion_ is now known as AlexZion [19:52] ct529: could ask in #ubuntu for that matter [19:52] ct529: might not hurt to check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams [19:52] WaltzingAlong: I have installed kubuntu .... [19:53] ct529: ok. and i read that you asked about ubuntu [19:53] WaltzingAlong: I checked the wiki, but I would rather have some recommendations first hand from someone who had to solve exactly the same problem .... [19:53] ct529: and the two share a good deal of components [19:53] WaltzingAlong: yes, they certainly share the drivers [19:57] hi [19:57] hi === raj is now known as txwikinger3 === txwikinger2 is now known as Guest31495 === txwikinger3 is now known as txwikinger2 [20:05] anyone know how to send ctrl + f11 through xvkbd ? I have tried all the examples I can but they just send the text from those keys, not the actual key presses [20:18] I installed LXDE in a multi boot system and opted to save grub to hd01 command sudo upgrade-grub dosen't work [20:21] . [20:22] amdman: ? [20:24] 'llo y'all. [20:24] I got a problem when I tried "apt-get update" this morning, it was the following: [20:24] GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key [20:24] Is there a known error with the karmic-security media? [20:25] is there a way to view all installed applications ? [20:25] yes. dpkg -l [20:25] (I think) [20:26] dpkg -i or -l ? [20:26] -l (ell) [20:27] Viking667: what is the command for sudo upgrade-grub if that dosen't work [20:27] or else, start up synaptic. check off the "Installed" in the bottom left hand panel. [20:27] sidney: that, I don't know. [20:29] that's correct Viking667 , thanks :) [20:30] amdman: and just grep everything tha begins with ii at the beginning of the line. [20:32] why some replys have orange color ? [20:33] amdman: if I'm referring you specifically, is that orange? [20:34] yes , how to do that ? [20:35] simple. Someone else mentions your own nick. The IRC client does the rest. [20:35] So, ^^^ that ^^^ wasn't highlighted in orange, was it? [20:35] amdman: no [20:35] whoops. Someone got in a join ahead of me. [20:36] amdman: whereas, this line is highlighted. [20:36] yes [20:36] [20:36] brb. helping someone brush their teeth... [20:37] :D === Pricey_ is now known as Pricey [20:55] can any one tell me a way to sun-java6-plugin without firefox? [20:58] hi there, since ive been using kubuntu 9.10 (my previous os was windows), some text is a bit blurry and when reading a whole article of it, it hurts my eyes tbh, do i need to install more fonts or change settings or so? plz help :) [20:59] lalalol: do you have a nvidia or ati video card? [20:59] Lord-Rahl, i have an ati video card [21:00] lalalol: has it ask you to install the drivers for it? [21:00] Lord-Rahl, no it didnt, i only had to install drivers for my wifi [21:01] lalalol: go to k menu > applications > system > there should be hardware drive icon click that [21:02] Lord-Rahl, hardware drivers? [21:03] lalalol: not there [21:03] it finds 2 broadcom drivers, for my wifi [21:04] lalalol: are yo ok with term [21:04] Lord-Rahl, i dont have any idea what you mean [21:04] yeah a bit [21:05] lalalol: ok open it up a type : lspci [21:05] lalalol: there should be a line VGA campatible [21:05] lalalol: what does that line say [21:06] 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series] [21:07] lalalol: here is a link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI I had to use this on may laptop [21:08] my gfx card isnt supported in that list Lord-Rahl [21:11] lalalol: https://groups.google.com/group/x1250/ [21:12] lalalol: there is a deb file on there for you [21:12] thanks, ill search it [21:13] lalalol: hope it help. I know the pain of ati [21:13] Lord-Rahl, i cant find the deb file, can you tell me where you saw it? [21:13] oh wait [21:13] got it [21:14] at the bottom [21:15] lalalol: it just like a exe in windows. download it a double click on it [21:15] yeah [21:15] lalalol: it should do the rest [21:15] the deb file is for 64bit though [21:16] i have 32bit [21:17] should i use this instead? xserver-xorg-video-ati_6.8.0-1_i386.deb [21:20] Lord-Rahl, ? [21:20] lalalol: yup[ [21:21] ok, :) [21:22] Lord-Rahl, "Error: a later version is already installed" [21:23] Lord-Rahl, btw, i think my computer uses an nvidia driver, cuz when i try to play a game under wine it says my nvidia driver is outdated [21:23] lalalol: I may be wrong but that what wine tell the game it is [21:24] lalalol: you diffently have ATI [21:24] Lord-Rahl, hm ok, what to do with that error then? [21:24] yeah i know [21:24] lalalol: from the line of lspci [21:24] im 100% sure i have an ati card [21:27] lalalol: can you do "cat /ect/X11/xorg.cofig" in a term and paste it http://codepad.org/ here and tell me the link [21:28] u sure its cofig and not config? [21:28] lalalol: config sorry [21:29] Lord-Rahl, np [21:29] Lord-Rahl, when entering your command i get: "cat: /ect/X11/xorg.config: No such file or directory" [21:30] lalalol: no " " so just cat /etc/X11/xorg.config [21:31] yeah i did lol === raj is now known as txwikinger2 [21:32] lalalol: type ati and hit tab does it give you anuthing [21:32] should be like aticonfig or something [21:32] doesnt give me something [21:35] lalalol: try this sound like you do that have a xorg.config file so it using the defults run this in your term sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [21:36] Lord-Rahl, i dont understand what u want me to do, just enter that command? [21:36] lalalol: reboot see if it helps [21:36] lalalol: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [21:37] copy and pasit that in to your terminal [21:37] ok [21:38] lalalol: :) hit enter follow the on screen prompts [21:38] it asked my pass, entered it, then it stopped :S [21:39] hello all... one question, is there any package that actually can integrate google calendar with kde or korganizer with the clock applet? [21:39] nonameNN: http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/10/11/howto-two-way-sync-between-kontact-and-gcal/ [21:40] lalalol: try to do the cat thing again see if you get something [21:41] Lord-Rahl, got the same error again like the previous time [21:42] lalalol: file not found [21:42] does anybody else have a problem when resuming from suspension (sleep)? I am going back to sleep 10 seconds after waking up. please, anybody aware of this? [21:42] Lord-Rahl, yeah, something like that [21:43] does anybody else have a problem when resuming from suspension (sleep)? I am going back to sleep 10 seconds after waking up. please, anybody aware of this? [21:43] sorrry about that === jack is now known as foursixzero [21:45] ok... kontact or korganizer cant show events on the kde calendar... so every single time i need to check whats up this week i need to open the program so no integration at all... thats the problem i just want to know if its an option im missing or its just like that [21:46] nonameNN: I think I might have noticed that today [21:46] you dont get any reminders until you actually open it? [21:47] yeah [21:47] maybe the daemon aint running, gonna check === zbenjamin|away is now known as zbenjamin [21:47] well i dont know if an alarm will ring but just wanted to know if there was more integration to kde clock calendar [21:51] hi === jack is now known as foursixzero [21:56] Hey, erm. Is there a appearence tab like the gnome? [22:02] whats the thing you hold down for the Cube? [22:02] as in the keys === Guest5338 is now known as jesse2 [22:04] hello. im running ubuntu 9.10, but i'd like to have KDE as well. when i install kde, i log in using the KDE chosen as my desktop environment, but all i get is a black screen with a mouse cursor. what gives? [22:08] foursixzero: go check out the shortcuts under appearance in systemsettings. desktop effects [22:08] all effects I believe should have a configurable shortcut on the effect itself [22:11] thanks vbgunz === Lexas is now known as Glaciac [22:26] holaaaa [22:26] how can i restart the kde panel? [22:28] How can I change the color of my windows? I found a Theme that I like, but my windows don't change color. === zbenjamin is now known as zbenjamin|away [22:32] hello, =) good afternoon ... [22:32] How do I update kubuntu? I just installed it :/ [22:34] I need help installing openoffice 3.2 on my Kubuntu 9.10 [22:35] I downloaded openoffice 3.2 from the webpage, uncomprressed it and tried to follow a forum but It did not work.. === zbenjamin|away is now known as zbenjamin === zbenjamin is now known as zbenjamin|away === raj is now known as txwikinger2