[00:02] bn [00:03] will liquorix kernel work if i apt-get it from sid liquorix repo on lucid? [00:13] jpapertowel: Who knows? Try it and see. It'll be totally unsupported, though. [00:24] alex_mayorga: Pingity ping. How's nouveau working for you? [00:25] RAOF: seems it aint that good [00:25] he can't reply back :D [00:28] what's liquorix? [00:36] hrm, I thought Ubuntu released Xen Kernels already === kermiac_ is now known as kermiac [00:50] uhh, does anyone know how to delete a software raid from the alternate cd? I don't want to have to dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda and wait 9 hours :( [00:51] jpapertowel: That will work, just ctrl-c it after a few seconds - it's the stuff right at the start [00:52] penguin42: yeah, I tried that, lol, both disks say they don't even have a partition table and yet the software raid is still there [00:52] after a reboot? Weird... And that's on sda itself? [00:52] (You are sure it's sda and you haven't just wiped some random USB key) [00:52] penguin42: absolutely sure [00:53] jpapertowel, you just want to remove a disk from an array? [00:53] jpapertowel, this seems offtopic for this channel though. I think #ubuntu-server is the correct context for that question. [00:54] jo-erlend: I just want to blank the disks like they're new, but the ubuntu installer still claims there's a software raid going on though for some reason and won't even let me create a partition table [00:54] figures i'll try to reboot [00:54] jpapertowel, read ubuntu server guide. It will tell you how to remove a disk from an array. [00:55] you should do that with mdadm. [00:55] jpapertowel: So dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd? bs=1024k count=10 should nuke the start of the disk, do that to both of them, reboot and see if it's still there [00:55] and be careful with that command! === kermiac is now known as kermiac_ [00:56] hmm, perhaps metadata goes in host-protected-area? [00:57] I know on my laptop, the RAID metadata can only be cleared via dmraid utils or via BIOS thingy. [00:57] jpapertowel: That's a good point - is it normal mdraid or is it a software raid controller? [00:58] mdadm on a software raid controller [00:58] rebooting worked :D [00:59] jono, offtopic for this channel, but I just came to think of it. Translations. Should we use launchpad or not? I'm getting so many mixed messages, I haven't done any work on it for a long time, but I really want to. [00:59] jo-erlend, for translating Ubuntu? [00:59] oh yeah, hdparm -Z [00:59] or was it -z? [00:59] jo-erlend, I would recommend using LP for translating any app :) [00:59] for "reread partition table" [00:59] Rosetta is awesome! [01:02] Launchpad: Use it as early and as often as possible. [01:02] jono, it is. But people are telling me it's wasted. That is won't be used, or it will be used by ubuntu for one release, but not by upstream and so it won't be used in the next ubuntu release, and stuff like that. In any case, I think a message from you to ubuntu-desktop or something, would be nice. [01:02] * RAOF is beginning to doubt the wisdom of hot mince pies given 34℃ ambient temperature. [01:02] RAOF: Send the 34c temperature over here please - it's -2c at the moment here [01:02] jo-erlend, can you give me some specific links to such griping? [01:03] jo-erlend, we always use translations in Ubuntu [01:03] and we ship them across multiple releases [01:03] well, it looks like i have to zero write the whole drive to get rid of this stupid software raid bug [01:03] jono, no, because it's a while back. But I've been trying to ask people how to contribute translations, and lots of people are uncertain about this. [01:03] jo-erlend, can you email David Planella about this? [01:03] jpapertowel: Why? [01:04] jono, I don't think I can provide any more information about this than I already have though. [01:04] jo-erlend, ok [01:04] penguin42: i rebooted and when i got to the partition maker thing, i created a partition table and BAM the stupid software raid swap at the end of the drive reappeared [01:04] penguin42: the installer throws up errors when i try to delete it [01:05] jpapertowel: Ah I see, when you've partitioned, dd over each of the partitions individually before you blat the partition table [01:05] jpapertowel: The problem is as soon as you put the partition table there it can find the old md superblocks [01:06] so I have to dd alllllll 4 TB? [01:06] jpapertowel: No! [01:06] jpapertowel: Create your partitions, then dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1 bs=1024k count=1 then do sda2 etc [01:06] penguin42: okay [01:06] jpapertowel, are you in lucid? [01:07] jo-erlend: yes [01:07] i don't know how to create the partitions [01:07] i'm not allowed to create anything with the software raid still in existence [01:08] jpapertowel: Heck then you may as wlel dd the lot - dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd? bs=1024k will be a lot faster than without the bs [01:08] jpapertowel: It should manage ~100MB/second on a decent drive [01:09] it'll be an average of 120MB/s on mine but there's no way i'm waiting 20 or so hours :( [01:10] jpapertowel: OK, do the dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1024k count=1 and when you create your partitions make them slightly different sizes to what they used to be - that way it won't pick up the old partitions [01:11] is there a way i can dd just the last 5 GB of each drive? [01:11] hmm, last 5GB [01:12] well, two ways, if you create a partition 5GB from the end and dd that partition, or dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd? bs=1024k count=5000ish seek=offset from start in MB [01:13] penguin42: i take that as a no, since i can't create partitions [01:14] jpapertowel: OK, then follow the stuff after the 'or' [01:14] too much math [01:15] * penguin42 would create the partition manually on the command line [01:17] why isn't there a way to make it not search for it :( [01:17] it's probably just being a bit too smart (file a bug!) - but seriously, easiest fix is just to make the partitions start at a slightly different point [01:20] dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1024 seek=763084? [01:22] 1024k more likely - i.e. 1M chunks [01:22] 1024k invalid argument [01:23] 1024k works here [01:23] nor does 1024000 work [01:25] you must have a typo somewhere else [01:25] guarantee you i don't [01:25] guarantee you I've done that loads of times [01:28] ~ # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1024k seek=2091909120 [01:28] dd: /dev/sdb: Invalid argument [01:28] oops [01:28] i put TB instead of GB [01:34] ok i cant get this to work so i think i should just go back to windows which seems to have much less bugs than ubuntu [01:37] jpapertowel, is that some sort of social engineering to make us help you? [01:38] Nitsuga: It always is [01:38] jpapertowel: If you take my one piece of advice to just make the partition sizes slightly different then it will ignore any broken raids - I made that advice about an hour ago now [01:38] how do I make them :( [01:39] jpapertowel: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd? bs=1024k count=1 for both drives, reboot, then create your partitions - but make them each a bit smaller than you had before [01:39] actually make that count=10 - that'll get rid of anything near the beginning [01:40] i tried that the raid crap comes back right after i initialized an msdos table and it won't let me make any partitions at all [01:40] why is there any RAID stuff there at all? [01:40] because i'm trying to set up software raid0 :/ [01:41] RAID0 ? [01:41] it like the disk read/write speed it's good for high disk usage games [01:41] ok. It also increases the failure rate 100% [01:42] what's the chance of one of my hard drives failing [01:42] it's pretty common [01:42] jpapertowel, it's no one of your hard drives [01:42] last hard drive i had lasted me 5 years [01:43] There are only two types of hard drives: those that have failed and those that will [01:43] it's ANY cluster of your hard drive [01:43] either way i got my newegg warranty so who cares [01:43] backups ftw [01:43] Yeah, newegg isn't going to restore your data. As long as you only put 'temporary' stuff on it, it's fine. [01:44] google stores all my non temporary stuff, i <3 google [01:45] Just asking to be sure you're doing what you want to do. RAID0 is great for NLV editing, for example, but RAID1 gives you the same read performance of RAID0 (at the cost of slower writes) but also actual reliability. [01:46] the only thing i care about being reliable is grub [01:46] You're making '/' RAID 0? [01:47] yeah, but I have a /boot partition outside of raid [01:47] I bet I still won't be able to install grub though === funkyHat is now known as funkyTones [02:04] holy crap grub installed! === funkyTones is now known as funkyHat [02:07] unsuccessfully though, i give up, I boot my system and GRUB Loading... could not write bytes: Broken pipe [02:09] thanks for at least attempting to help guys, i'm back to windows forever === TheImp is now known as TheInfinity [02:39] !info emerald [02:40] emerald (source: emerald): Decorator for compiz-fusion. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.2-0ubuntu3 (lucid), package size 255 kB, installed size 1392 kB [02:49] might be a dumb question, but if i'm looking at software center and click a category, how do i get back to the home page? [02:51] voidmage, "Get Free Software" at the top - beside the category title you are in === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant [03:18] I'm having a weird video display problem. Anyone care to run robots and see whether they move smoothly, or the whole board redraws (e.g. all robots disappear and then reappear in their new spot)... it makes the game hard to follow and is most obvious when wait is used)? [03:21] Just grabbed a daily build of the LiveCD, installed it on USB, and apparently after I arrange my partition setup in the installer, and click Forward, I get an error titled "Invalid username (as superuser)" with content of "The username you have entered is invalid. Note that usernames must start with lower-case letter, which can be followed by any combination of numbers and more lower-caser letters" [03:21] Should I report that, or? [03:22] or grab the daily ISO build tomorrow, and if the issue persists, then report it? [03:22] You could grab an older build and verify it's not happening... but I think you should report when in doubt [03:23] otherwise they might not know to fix it... === Dink|W is now known as Dink [03:27] or perhaps I could contact a mailing list? [03:47] !resolution > metricpiano [03:47] metricpiano, please see my private message [03:50] !resolution > metricpiano [03:50] metricpiano, if you want to see a factoid (without it showing up in the channel) you can use "/msg ubottu !foo" [03:51] ha, I was typing /msg ubotto [03:51] and couldn't understand why it wasn't working [03:57] metricpiano, that's a configurable option iirc [03:59] what's the command line for robots? I removed it from my menu a while ago [04:02] metricpiano, on karmic, gnobots2 has no animation, it just updates each turn [04:02] there's no option, that's just how it works === dabossbv1 is now known as dabossbv [04:38] Wait, is 10.04 getting RGBA Support, or is it not? [04:38] h00k, no [04:38] om26er: that's what I thought [04:38] Next release [04:39] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/02/enable-rgba-window-transparency-in.html [04:39] "Before trying this please remember that there is a reason this support was postponed until Lucid+1. It's not polished, it doesn't work properly with every applications and some applications flat-out refuse to run at all with it!" [04:39] h00k, although its getting client side window decoration (that I don't understand) [04:40] Because this was linked from the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter: http://linuxtree.blogspot.com/2010/02/5-new-things-about-windows-8-and-ubuntu.html [04:41] One of which under Ubuntu claims RGBA [04:44] * om26er hopes ubuntu to be the first to use RGBA [04:45] It also makes obsurd claims about the Software Center [04:47] h00k, and what's the claim [04:48] om26er: from the article linked: When 10.04 releases, the Ubuntu Software Center will finally take over as the sole installation tool for Ubuntu. Synaptic, GDebi, and even the update manager will all be replaced by USC. Hopefully USC will include the ability to install more than one piece of software at a time. [04:48] h00k, well that's not gonna happen for Lucid but still software center will be far poweful that before [04:50] om26er: that's what I'm hearing, yeah, I just think they should screen the links that are making claims like that :( [04:53] oh yeah, random thought... I oughtta' try the beagleboard as thin-client. [06:27] argh, no wonder my beagleboard is being so warm... it has the same stupid rsyslogd behavior, as well! [06:27] DanaG: which behaviour? [06:27] The eating 100% CPU. [06:28] is there a bug for that? [06:30] 100% of BOTH cpu cores on my laptop... and two threads each with 50% on my beagleboard. [06:30] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/523610 [06:30] Ubuntu bug 523610 in rsyslog "rsyslogd spins CPU on older kernels" [High,Triaged] [06:35] DanaG: ouch! [06:38] ach, mein CPU! [06:49] had to stop rsyslogd service [06:59] argh, for some reason, my systray area has become really, really really really huge. [06:59] So huge, it's pushed my Firefox shortcut UNDER my menus! === iflema is now known as tremmons === tremmons is now known as iflema [07:34] www.search2.net [07:34] onone click that link^ [07:37] i tried it .... [07:45] Will Ubuntu 10.04 have /tmp as tmpfs? [09:18] god, could they make setting up ppa's with key signing any more annoying from the console? [09:19] hey wondering if people are finding gedit sluggish [09:19] ? [09:19] hide the details, then make the signing key clickable so you can't select it to copy and paste, and then put the command line command on a different page altogether [09:19] nzmm, not terribly; saving to remote filesystems can be slow though [09:20] for me text rendering is slow as is most of the interface, nvidia system [09:20] cwillu_at_work: ssshhh, don't complain or they might fix it, and then even more people would use broken PPAs and cause support hell :( [09:20] its the only prog affected [09:20] rww, I can assure you that those people who use ppa's are not doing anything with key signing [09:21] cwillu_at_work: good point, I saw "PPA" and snark mode turned itself on :( [09:22] dah, not built for armel [09:23] cwillu_at_work: add-apt-repository "ppa:xyz/ppa" is annoying? [09:24] hah, I'm not the only one who misread ;P [09:24] kklimonda, when that's not the command listed on the ppa, yes :p [09:25] correct [09:25] the PPA should show the entire command [09:25] ppl don't guess the AAR part [09:25] it should be mentioned somewhere [09:26] nzmm: *everything* is slugish [09:26] its a gtk bug [09:26] kklimonda: should but its not [09:26] maybe in the HELP [09:26] but who reads that [09:27] https://launchpad.net/+help/soyuz/ppa-sources-list.html still lists the manual method [09:27] BUGabundo_remote: well - people who need help should read that :P [09:29] BUGabundo_remote: oh thanks for the info [09:36] hey, how are you all doing? [09:37] I'm grumpy [09:39] I'm sleepy [09:39] and you must be snoring [09:39] :p [09:41] what's happenin' here? evrybody sleepin' or? [09:42] zzZ [09:42] should be zzz-ing [09:47] zzzzzZZZ [09:48] I hear ya [09:48] ask your doctor if modafinil is right for you [09:52] * BUGabundo_remote <3 today's XKCD [09:56] guys another thing is how do i get engines that are used in themes? the likes of murrina, etc. [10:00] just like t-wayne, i cant believe this, i gtg, be in peace [10:03] yay. gtk+ fix has been uploaded [10:04] kklimonda: gtk+ fix for the sluggishness? [10:05] for the excessive cpu usage [10:05] oh yay [10:05] * BUGabundo_remote checks email [10:05] FINALLY then [10:05] why are all this ppl coming here with theme probs? [10:06] did we change all that much this cycle? [10:06] we did [10:10] hey BUGabundo_remote [10:22] * BUGabundo_remote wonders how even ppl read his own old bugs [10:22] man I suck at describing stuff [10:23] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/297523 [10:23] Ubuntu bug 297523 in synaptic "synaptic column resize" [Undecided,Incomplete] [10:29] hello, did the lock screen function get fixed? [10:29] no [10:31] is there an open bug for it? [10:32] Damascene, yes [10:32] * om26er finds [10:32] Damascene, bug#524860 [10:32] bug 524860 [10:32] Launchpad bug 524860 in gnome-keyring "Locked out at lockscreen" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524860 [10:33] thank you [10:33] Damascene, np.. :) [10:44] does anyone happen to know if Sabnzbdplus 0.5 will be included with Lucid? It's not for me it is a LP question. [10:46] ZykoticK9, open a bug report for it [10:47] ZykoticK9, [needs packaging] sabnzbdplus 0.5 [10:47] om26er, again, it's not for me - thought I'd try asking here, then answering the [10:47] om26er, i'll suggest to the poster to enter a bug report :) [11:01] hello toward what package can I report a bug for rescue mode beeing unusable ? [11:21] PascalFR, maybe you should ask in ubuntu-bugs channel [11:21] PascalFR: what exactly doesn't work? [11:25] PascalFR: the package responsible for displaying a text menu is friendly-recovery [11:26] PascalFR: kernel bugs should be reported against linux package and problems related to the boot process against upstart [11:46] can anyone get my nick un-banned from #ubuntu ? i have fixed my network problems. === kermiac_ is now known as kermiac [11:48] wirechief: ask in #ubuntu-ops [11:49] thanks rww [11:50] kklimonda: the problem is the rescue screen is cluttered with upstart messages and going to the rescue shell is impossible because there are 2 competitors for stdin/stdout [11:51] PascalFR, did the rescue menu appear? [11:52] yes no problem it appears correctly then some console messages come in the middle and then you cannot login on the maintenance shell [11:52] Damascene: one line of input on 2 is swallowed by another process [11:53] Damascene: the first cha entered is always swallowed etc [11:53] char [11:53] I'm using Lucid and I can't reproduce [11:53] i am on karmic [11:53] :S [11:53] Karmic bugs are in ubuntu-bugs as far as I know [11:54] so i was querring how can i report such a bug [11:54] /j #ubuntu-bugs [11:55] ok [12:02] hmm - the volume control panel app isn't playing ball today - won't slide, won't unmute - sound preferences is fine though [12:04] penguin42: got that last week [12:04] today is fine [12:05] haven't done an update today yet [12:06] is it indicator-sound-service? === kermiac is now known as kermiac_ === om26er_ is now known as om26er [12:40] well the gtk patch did not work. [12:41] om26er, for cpu usage or rgba stuff? [12:42] zniavre, yes, the latest update didnot fix it even [12:42] that's right [12:44] ubottu, are you there? [12:44] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [12:44] xorg process still too hight if im not minimize to tray somme apps [12:44] some* [13:11] * om26er downgraded gtk [13:14] om26er, to wich version please ? [13:14] -ubuntu4 [13:14] sorry 2 [13:17] :o) [13:17] you ll need to downgrade 4 more packages no? [13:18] there are still available somewhere ? [13:18] they* [13:26] zniavre, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/2.19.5-1ubuntu2/+build/1505842 [13:27] Hey folks [13:48] om26er, thank you [13:49] * om26er is working on an experimental ppa for gtk === ikt_ is now known as ikt [14:44] oh look, the rsyslogd of doom [15:09] om26er, did you switch to old gtk libs ? is it solved ? [15:20] zniavre, yes its is [15:20] solved [15:35] what's used by gwibber to show notifications? I haven't get the bubles in a while! === Authority_ is now known as Authority [15:51] is anyone getting a lot of flicker when resizing gnome-terminals? [15:52] penguin42: gtk bug? [15:52] BUGabundo_remote: Dunno, could be, could be driver [15:52] FYI gwibber now defaults to only show replies, so that's why I wasn't getting the notificans [15:53] penguin42: it's reported but I don't know bug number [15:53] ok, not just me then [15:55] additionally to resizing, gnome-terminal also flickers whenever the window title changes (eg, when changing directories) [16:02] hmm it affects lxterm as well, so it's probably libvte [16:57] when will the next alpha be released? [16:57] Raydiation: Thursday. [16:57] jpds: this week? [16:58] Raydiation: Yes. [16:58] great [17:00] I've heard that lucid recently gained a different volume mixer applet [17:00] is that the case? [17:00] cnd, yes [17:00] ZykoticK9, can you point me to some documentation? [17:00] email? [17:00] cnd, it's horizontal instead of vertical [17:01] cnd, don't know anything about it other then just my use of it, sorry [17:03] ZykoticK9, ok, thanks [17:06] well, it's not really an applet anymore, it's part of the indicator applet now [17:07] Ian_Corne: It still seems to be a separate process - what does it gain from being part of the indicator applet ? [17:08] If you right click it, it doesn't say antyhing about that applet anymore [17:08] you now left click it and select the preference option in that menu [17:08] so there's less confusion I think [17:10] Ian_Corne: Shrug - doesn't make much difference to me, it does seem to have merged it into a single X client which is probably a benefit [17:10] (although I'm find it's a bit flaky) [17:11] I haven't run into any issues yet [17:11] but it's not like I extensivly use that applet :p [17:11] Ian_Corne: I'm finding the mute/unmute sometimes seems to stick [17:12] hmm, I haven't noticed that and I actually use that feature alot, in class, out of class [17:13] when you mute is it changing the text to 'unmute all' or leaving it as mute all ? [17:13] unmute all where? [17:13] I don't have any applications running making sound :p [17:13] Ian_Corne: Left button to get menu and then what's the top thing you see? [17:13] Just says unmute [17:13] for me it says 'Mute all' [17:14] hmm [17:14] well, i'm muted, so mute all would be wrong :p [17:14] right and that's what I'm seeing - it's stuck in 'mute all' irrespective of whether it's muted, before I saw it stick in unmute all [17:16] Aha [17:18] #525893 [17:19] bug 525893 [17:19] Launchpad bug 525893 in indicator-sound "Mute behavior not reliable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/525893 [17:27] Ian_Corne, penguin42, is there some documentation or email thread that talks about this? [17:27] * penguin42 isn't aware of one [17:27] I have a bug submission talking about howupgrading his kernel in lucid made his audio applet go away [17:27] I'm guessing it's gone away because of this change [17:28] Ian_Corne, penguin42, even a pointer to the correct package would help [17:28] cnd: indicator-sound is the new one [17:28] I'm not too familiar with whatever package it would be [17:29] penguin42, what was the older package? [17:29] hmm not sure [17:43] cnd: because he doesn't have the indicatior applet on his panel [17:44] it's the enveloppe icon [17:44] is mt guess [17:45] Ian_Corne, oh, so the audio mixer control has been merged into that indicator applet thingy... [17:45] I see [17:55] Yeps [17:55] noo, ubottu! [17:55] aah :) [17:57] Ian_Corne: hes broken for some reason [17:58] ubottu: test [17:58] perhaps he needs oiling? [17:58] hrm? [18:00] After updating my LAN server from hardy to lucid, I now have http://paste.debian.net/60978/ Isn't this a problem to have such a mix between grub1 and grub2? === Laibsch1 is now known as Laibsch [18:03] Laibsch: I think you'll find it's actually still running grub1 - I don't think it tries to replace the underlying grub1 automatically [18:06] Laibsch, when you have both installed grub1 chainloads grub2 [18:06] it is done just in case it doesn't work [18:06] you can remove grub1 safely if grub2 is working fine [18:36] When will GIMP be dropped and what will replace it? [18:37] huh? [18:38] gimp is only being dropped from the desktop seed for new installs; it's still installable via any package manager, and if you already have it installed it won't be removed. [18:38] crimsun: When is it being dropped from new installs? What will replace it? [18:39] I guess f-spot will still be there for the normal clip and tweek of camera images [18:39] So Ubuntu isn't going to supply any image manipulation software? [18:41] Samuel-NotAFK: read 3 lines up ? [18:41] So the Ubuntu CD isn't going to supply any image manipulation software? [18:41] Samuel-NotAFK: Out of the box? Correct. [18:41] Pici: What box? [18:41] well, as I said I assume f-spot will still be there [18:42] Samuel-NotAFK: 'out of the box' means the system state right after your install. [18:42] I need some sort of simple program for very basic modifications. [18:42] GIMP is too complicated for my needs. [18:43] What's best out of Tuxpaint and Gpaint? [18:43] Samuel-NotAFK: Try f-spot if it's simple type of crop/rotate/colour tweeks [18:43] paint software and image manipulation are kind of different [18:49] Ah, this is what I want: http://pinta-project.com/ [19:02] uhm.. why can't i set my screen resolution to more than 1280*720 or so? [19:12] Machtin: Well probably either because theres a problem with your display driver not recognising your card or it not recognising your monitor === lenios_ is now known as lenios [19:21] hmh [19:21] penguin42: i think i might not even need to fix the problem myself, if i find out how to boot clean. [19:21] anyone know if there is anything in Lucid that can stream video/audio from a web cam, or if there's any plans? [19:22] atm i boot, enter my luks-passphrase and then nothing happens. when i alt+print+k, i can get back to a root-shell, from where i can mount /dev/mapper/home and startx [19:25] mbeierl: Can empathy do it in Lucid? [19:27] Small Lucid server problem, trying to decide if I should report this as a bug: When the machine boots, it comes up on vt7, which is just a -, since X isn't installed and getty isn't running. I always have to - to login. Not a big deal, but can be kind of confusing the first time. [19:27] i prefer pidgin [19:28] pgoetz, sounds similar to my bug of #517842 [19:29] bug 517842 [19:29] Launchpad bug 517842 in gdm "if GDM disabled system still boot to Virtual Console 7 (a flashing cursor)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/517842 [19:29] "Wireless Networks Available" [19:29] "Click this icon..." [19:29] * DanaG goes to click it. [19:29] ARGH, where'd it go? [19:30] * DanaG moves mouse away.... hey, it's back! [19:30] * DanaG tries again... ARGH. [19:30] =þ [19:30] mbeierl: since vlc can capture /dev/video0 seemingly without problems, I would assume it would be possible also to stream it somewhere to.. [19:30] Stupid notify-osd. [19:30] "click this icon" -- yeah, right. [19:30] DanaG: It's still the wrong icon isn't it? [19:34] Er, I mean that it literally said "click this icon"... and there was an icon two inches to the left. [19:34] So, I did what any logical person would do: tried to click the icon. =þ [19:34] (Yeah, I do know to go to nm-applet; I'm just making a point.) === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez [19:35] ZykoticK9, that must be it -- thanks for logging this and saving me the trouble. BTW, for the server install, this is the default behavior (i.e. gdm isn't installed by default) [19:35] DanaG: Yea :) But have they changed the icon to actually look like nm-applet yet, I know it doesn't correspond in Karmic... [19:35] I'm not sure, but I'd say not. [19:35] I posted that this bug affects me, too and will add a comment. [19:35] Er, it's vaguely similar. [19:36] pgoetz, you might want to add that detail to the bug! I doubt its getting much attention right now [19:36] OK, will do. [19:38] arand: nope. The docs are all "outdated" and I have yet to get vlc to work. Asked on #videolan and no response :( thanks anyway [19:41]