[09:50] <slytherin> ttx: In case you haven't noticed already, discussion regarding -gcj packages (recommends vs Suggests) on Debian Java ML is going in same direction as what we needed. :-)
[09:51] <ttx> slytherin: I didn't know that, that's good !
[09:51] <ttx> I saw a few changes in packages that seem to indicate some relaxed policy :)
[09:51] <slytherin> Actually the discussion came up because of those changes.
[12:01] <BIDMAS> I'm packaging an application. JDK is a dependency. Specifically which package should I put as a dependency, and should it be in the pre-depends section?
[12:02] <slytherin> BIDMAS: Have you read the packaging policy? Are you familiar with meaning of various fields in debian/control file?
[12:05] <BIDMAS> slytherin: Thanks, motu just answered for me
[12:06] <persia> Well, yeah, but -motu answered less correctly :(
[12:08] <BIDMAS> Sorry about that
[12:08] <BIDMAS> Yes?
[12:18] <persia> BIDMAS: So, you were last asked " Have you read the packaging policy? Are you familiar with meaning of various fields in debian/control file?"
[12:26] <slytherin> I wasn't sure if (s)he was looking for build-depends or depends. That is the reason why I asked it. :-)
[12:27] <persia> And the same confusion appeared in MOTU, and was answered confusingly.
[12:28] <persia> But one needs to actually stay in the channel and answer questions if one wants answers.
[12:47] <BIDMAS> I need to put down JDK as a dependency. What's the best way to do so?
[12:47] <BIDMAS> (I know there are many different JDKs)
[12:48] <slytherin> BIDMAS: Is it a dependency or build-dependency?
[12:49] <BIDMAS> dependency
[12:50] <slytherin> BIDMAS: This should be added in debian/control file - Depends: default-jdk | java2-sdk
[12:51] <slytherin> BIDMAS: Or if you are confused paste your debian/control file on paste.ubuntu.com
[12:51] <BIDMAS> Thanks, I'll try a recompile with that
[19:09] <Guest87921> how to install java from 15 to 18 version of ubuntu 9.10
[19:09] <Guest87921> help me >?
[19:09] <Guest87921> !
[19:09] <Guest87921> ops
[19:09] <Guest87921> :>
[19:10] <nthykier> Guest87921: What version are you talking about?
[19:12] <Guest87921> java version "1.6.0_15"
[19:12] <Guest87921> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_15-b03)
[19:12] <Guest87921> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 14.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing)
[19:12] <Guest87921> and..?
[19:12] <Guest87921> nthykier,
[19:12] <nthykier> Right, that would be an implementation version...
[19:13] <persia> Guest87921: You might try backports.  I don't think that b18 is going to be an SRU (although I may be mistaken~
[19:13] <nthykier> vendor*
[19:14]  * persia is apparently confused, and agrees with nthykier : there's no clear answer,
[19:14] <nthykier> We are talking about openjdk, right?
[19:15] <nthykier> It is the only java implementation I can remember that is in that version range these days
[19:16] <Guest87921> why not the latest version repositories
[19:16] <persia> nthykier: I think it's sun-java6, personally.
[19:16] <persia> Guest87921: Nobody did the stable release update yet, probably.
[19:16] <persia> !sru
[19:17] <persia> Guest87921: If you'd like to help, more hands are welcome.  Most of us are focused on OpenJDK these days.
[19:17] <nthykier> Guest87921: if you want bleeding edge you should probably use Debian Unstable instead of Ubuntu (although it tends to break)
[19:17]  * nthykier personally very happy with running a testing
[19:18] <nthykier> alternatively you could run Ubuntu 10.04 release, though it is not stable yet and may also break :P
[19:18] <persia> Of if you want similarly risky Ubuntu, running lucid is similar to testing right now.
[19:18] <persia> But if you want 9.10, you need to get sun-java6 applied as a stable update, which will take a while.
[19:18] <Guest87921> what is the stable version of java on ubuntu 9.10
[19:19] <persia> nthykier: Careful with numbers prior to release, for all the same reasons that squeeze doesn't have an official number yet.
[19:19] <nthykier> probably the one you have right now
[19:19] <nthykier> persia: right, my bad
[19:20] <persia> Looks like the best version for 9.10 us openjdk-6 6b16-1.6.1-3ubuntu1
[19:20] <persia> s/us/is/
[19:21] <persia> nthykier: No worries: because Ubuntu has easily predicted version numbers, it's an easy slip :)
[19:21] <nthykier> except when you do an .06 :P
[19:23] <persia> That only happened once, to great shame :)