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daroluasger: the one you summon with F3?00:00
ActionParsnipasger, i found a page with source, you could compile it, or try: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas00:00
ben_thanks00:00
Dravekxwhat permissions and group do i need to give /var/www so I can upload files via sftp?00:00
OerHeksprivete2 ganyremote  tru synaptics is also available.00:00
daroluasger: if it is the one I think, it is a compiz plug in, isntall compizconfig-settings-manager package00:00
coldpizza72iin grub "set root(x,y)" is what? if i want to put my sdb1 partition there?00:01
Dravekxright now its root:root, but i can't upload anything with my user account00:01
con-manwhat does this mean: fixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet00:01
ActionParsnipasger,http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3051000:01
con-manfrom wine00:01
neon__does anyone knows how to watch netflix on ubuntu?00:01
ben_switching from microsoft to linux has made me actually have to learn again, lol00:01
Dravekxben_, join the fun! lol00:01
private2OerHeks: Okay, I will be sure to look at that as well. Thank you very much again.00:01
FeasibilityStudyneon__: you can't00:01
FeasibilityStudyComplain to Netflix00:01
asgerdarolu, It's the one where u get a nice overview of all your current windows, and then u can choose 1..00:02
woodyjlwben_,  me too!  but it is a good experience00:02
bharat_ubootu: the reason im having problems with enabling 3d desktop is bcoz i dont have xgl... how do i solve this?00:02
neon__i will , i have installed moonlight latest and ies4linux without any luck00:02
Dravekxanyone know what groups to set /var/www so i can upload and edit files via sftp?00:02
trismcoldpizza72i: sdb1 should be set root=(hd1,1)00:02
daroluasger: yes it is the exposé one, it is a compiz plug in; install compizconfig-settings-manager00:02
bharat_opps ubottu sorry!00:02
soreauasger: It's called Scale00:02
neon__i wil cancel my triel just because of it and make sure i let them know00:03
jribDravekx: create a new group like www-editors00:03
FeasibilityStudyneon__: The reason is that Moonlight for Linux does not include the DRM crap needed to decode the movies..00:03
jrib!permissions > Dravekx00:03
ubottuDravekx, please see my private message00:03
bharat_i have a studio 15 with an ati radeon hd457000:03
asgerdarolu, okay then. And how do i do that?00:03
ActionParsnipneon__,https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythFlix00:03
agSilverben_ yah. a few tips. don't install drivers you download.00:03
asgersoreau, okay, thx00:03
FeasibilityStudyneon__: I keep a windows partition here just for Netflix00:03
daroluasger: open synaptic (system - admin - synaptic) and search for compizconfig-settings manager00:03
agSilverben_ just grab them out of repository as they are tested and stable00:03
asgerdarolu, ok. i've done that00:04
neon__i'm running virtualbox and is working, just piss me off that is no support for linux00:04
daroluasger, is this what you mean? http://i46.tinypic.com/2u4stxc.png it is called "scale", go to system - preferences - compiz settings and go to windows section00:04
FeasibilityStudyneon__: Netflix keeps saying they gonna support Linux, but it hasn't happened yet.00:05
Dravekxjrib, so technically, I want ownership of /var/www, but I can leave the group as root, correct? that way I can 644 everything and still edit/upload files?00:05
asgerdarolu, yeah, that's the one you linked. I already got scale, but then i guess i need to configure it in some special way, right00:07
Dravekxthat sounds right00:08
ben_thanx00:09
daroluasger: no special way, just the way you want to start it, it is on the first tab; I personally like the top-left corner and F300:09
asgerdarolu, ah. I already had it. I got it to work now. Thx alot00:09
sunshinepantspretty sure netflix is going to update their site with html500:11
infidhow can i make a file have the permissions/modifications it would if i had just created it, ie whatever my umask is?00:11
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harisundAnybody has any experience with Ubuntu Netbook Remix? Is it the "same" as regular Ubuntu? As in, are the repositories the same?00:11
blakkheimharisund: same repositories00:11
infidharisund: i use it, its' the same except the interface is configuerd for a smaller screen00:11
sunshinepantsharisund: yes it is, but it comes with a small menu instead of a normal desktop00:12
bharat_how can i get xgl or aiglx for ati00:12
kurosHello...I'm trying to get pfSense running with virtualbox on Ubuntu 9.10. I have my cable modem and LAN hooked up to my host machine, and they work fine, but it doesn't seem to be bridging to the guest OS. Could anyone help with this?00:12
Dravekxcool00:12
Dravekxthat worked00:13
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amitshah08help00:13
darolukuros: all my vm work automatic, so I don't really know how to do it but you can try asking in the #vbox channel00:13
kurosdarolu: THanks..I tried, but they were not able to help00:14
mustafaFirefox 3.6 is out and when i check update it is not there00:14
darolu!virtualbox | kuros00:14
ubottukuros: virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox00:14
Dravekxthanks :)00:14
darolukuros, maybe those links can help you00:14
FourierSeries<= withdrawing my question. Thank you all!00:15
neil_dI can't get pulseaudio to recognise my audio card an "ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)"   what can I do?00:15
kurosUbutto: Thanks, I'll take a look00:15
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Lobohola00:15
dAlfaLaptop_mustafa, that's because the Ubuntu devs have to make sure that it's reliable and safe enough to stick in their repos, to make sure there's less breakage for as many people as possible. It's the same for all packages in the repos00:15
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Guest22382o demonios00:15
Guest22382ingles q no hera un chat en spanol00:15
Guest22382?00:15
Nitsuga!es | Guest2238200:16
ubottuGuest22382: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.00:16
dantixhi all, I'm on an LG netbook, recently it's upgraded to Karmic and never could do it to hibernate again. what could be wrong?00:21
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rolandixorhi00:21
rolandixoranyone need help?00:21
dantixyep, I need00:23
dantixhi all, I'm on an LG netbook, recently it's upgraded to Karmic and never could do it to hibernate again. what could be wrong?00:23
rolandixorhow big is your RAM and swap space?00:23
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dantixlet me see00:24
rolandixoralso it might help to know your graphics00:24
dattacan anyone please help me with gnome, which is kind of fuzzy?00:24
militantok googling is showing that pulseaudio can go as high as 480%.  is there a way to specify a volume level to be considered '100%' in the gnome volume controls?00:25
rolandixorsometimes a bad graphics driver can prevent hibernation00:25
dantixrolandixor: I have 1GB RAM and 1.6GB swap00:25
dattacheck this image please to and help me http://yfrog.com/jt18840156p00:25
dattawhen i go to appearance, it gets fixed00:26
dantixrolandixor: when my netbook ran the early version never have the problem, ow can I upgrade just the video driver?00:26
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Ten-Eightdatta: img looks fine to me...nice and sharp.00:27
Ten-Eightwhen is it fuzzy?00:27
rolandixorhmm you said netbook?00:27
dattabut can anyone tell me00:27
rolandixorwhat kind of netbook is it?00:27
Ten-Eightdatta: tell you what?00:27
dantixLG X11000:27
dAlfaLaptop_datta, What's the problem? The theme?00:27
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dattathe fuzziness is that what i picked, the theme was not there and at first it gave a warning that the gnome applet crashed00:27
dattai logged back it and picked the theme again, fixed it, thanks00:28
Ten-Eightdatta: glad you got it worked out.00:28
Ten-Eightdatta: where'd you get the wallpaper?00:28
voidprayeris there a kernel-space alternative to fbterm/jfbterm? i would like it to start when initramfs loaded.00:29
dattain synaptic i get this error: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.00:29
dattaE: _cache->open() failed, please report.00:29
dattaand pressing the close, closes everything of synaptic00:29
hannes815hay, can you guys tell me where to find the deb package for karmic on this website? http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/choose/00:30
blakkheimhannes815: ... it's right on the page00:31
dattathis is what i get when i put the dpkg --configure -a: http://paste.ubuntu.com/381271/00:31
hannes815i only see it for 8.1000:31
hannes815not for karmic00:31
blakkheimhannes815: it says 8.10+00:31
dattadoes this mean i have to uninstall realplay?00:32
hannes815blakkheim: oh sorry.. my bad.00:32
hannes815it's gettin late :p00:32
klappiis there an easy way to disable and enable pulseaudio?00:32
sixzerofourhow do i determine my video card and get drivers for thenm?00:33
sixzerofourall i know is its nvidia00:33
sixzerofouri'm on a laptop00:33
blakkheimsixzerofour: lspci00:34
klappisixhat: you can try lspci to get the model00:34
ardchoillesixzerofour:  lspci | grep -i vga00:34
sixzerofour00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C67 [GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M] (rev a2)00:34
sixzerofournow what?00:35
blakkheimsixzerofour: now you know00:35
sixzerofourbut how do i get nvidia drivers?00:35
blakkheim!nvidia > sixzerofour00:35
ardchoille!nvidia | sixzerofour00:35
ubottusixzerofour, please see my private message00:35
sixzerofouri am assuming something in apt=get00:35
ubottusixzerofour: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto00:35
blakkheimtoo slow00:35
Younderblakkheim, well a Nvidea 530 backed by a tesl is pretty fast..00:36
jimi_How can I keep pidgin from showing messages in the notify window until I click it? Pidgin is setup to hide messages and only show in systray, ut is there an ubuntu setting i need to change?00:36
Youndertesla00:36
sixzerofourum, i'm on kubuntu, i don't have whats lsited in this hotto00:37
sixzerofourhowto00:37
neezerI can use sftp and browse to a file on my server and play it directly from there when using ubuntu....when I try to do it from a windows machine using winscp, I can't do this....is there another way to use sftp or something like that to use my ssh tunnel to play a movie from my server on my windows laptop?00:37
blakkheimneezer: /join ##windows00:37
darolujimi_:play with pidging options, I haven't used it in a long time but I think those notifications are created by a plug in00:38
rolandixoranyone need help?00:38
sixzerofourme00:38
sixzerofourtrying to install nvidia drivers on  kubuntu, its telling me to go to hardware settings, but i don't have a hardware settings in my system settings00:39
meganerdneezer: there is an sshfs like project for Windows, I have not tried it since I have sshfs on my Ubuntu laptop :)00:40
ardchoillesixzerofour: you need to ask how to do that in #kubuntu00:40
Ten-Eightsixzerofour: you have no hardware drivers section in your system>admin section?00:40
sixzerofourno one ever talks there00:40
sixzerofourcorrect Ten-Eight00:40
ardchoilleTen-Eight: he's on kubuntu00:40
Ten-Eightaahh...sorry, missed that part archoille.00:40
darolusixzerofour: open a terminal, and type "jockey-kde"00:40
ardchoillesixzerofour: the advice  you recieve here is for ubuntu, you need kubuntu advice so you need to be in #kubuntu00:41
rolandixoreasier to press alt+f200:41
rolandixorand type the same command00:41
Dr_WillisI hate it when guides tell you to use a menu item and dont mention the actual name of the command00:41
Dr_Willis:)00:41
darolusixzerofour: I'd recommend going to the kubuntu channel, mos of use use GNOME00:41
blakkheimagreed Dr_Willis00:41
rolandixorI use both00:41
Dr_Willisalso hate it when the menu items use a radically diffrent name then the name of the actual binary00:41
rolandixorbut you are right00:41
daroluDr_Willis, that's very confusing00:41
sixzerofourdaru its searching for drivers00:41
sixzerofourdarolu:00:42
Dr_WillisThe i recall ages ago KDE (i think) had stuff like  Kate (A Full featured and Fun Text Editor)00:42
rolandixorif you have a newer card, use the newest driver00:42
Dr_WillisLike we needed a LONG description. :)00:42
sixzerofouroops, i guess i have to sudo this command00:42
rolandixoreven if it's a beta00:42
klappiTen-Eight: try /usr/bin/jockey-gtk00:42
d4m0nanyone help me with a driver install prblm?00:42
rolandixorit should have asked for your password00:42
darolusixzerofour: hopefully it'll find what you need, if it doesn't work you can always go to nvidia.com and download the latest driver00:42
sixzerofourits working00:43
rolandixorbest to just install it from the repo00:43
sixzerofourthx00:43
rolandixorthe drivers from the site cause problems when you upgrade to lucid00:43
sixzerofourlucid?00:43
blakkheim!lucid00:43
rolandixorI'm running lucid now and had to recover libGL.so to get back to KDE00:43
ubottuLucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+100:43
sixzerofourah00:44
rolandixoroh00:44
mattwj2002hi guys00:44
rolandixorwow no discussing it here I si00:44
mattwj2002I have a question00:44
rolandixor*see00:44
dsnydersHI all.  I have a GeForce2 MX, and when I start up kpovmodeler I get doubled images (See http://imagebin.org/85792 ).  I am currently using Ubuntu 9.04 and nVidia's proprietary drivers.  Will the nouveau or nv drivers fix this?00:44
d4m0nanyone help me with a driver install prblm?00:44
mattwj2002I just bought a brand new 1.5 TB hard drive00:44
mattwj2002:)00:44
blakkheimd4m0n: just ask00:44
enkiduhi there, I still didnt solved problem with udev not starting during bootup00:45
sixzerofourtime to reboot :)00:45
sixzerofourbrb00:45
d4m0nI'm following instructions to install ati driver (ubuntu 9.10)00:45
rolandixordnsyders: probably not xD00:45
glphvgacshi, followed this [https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Installing drivers for the BCM4311,4312,4321,4322 Cards] with no joy00:45
d4m0nsudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-9-12-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/karmic00:45
mattwj2002I want forgot this drive to a native Windows partition but I don't know what will be better for Ubuntu FAT32 or NTFS00:45
glphvgacsI have 4312 installed do I need NdisWrapper?00:45
d4m0ni get  >>  Can't open ./ati-driver-installer-9-12-x86.x86_64.run00:46
enkidureboot have sense in three situations: kernel upgrade, glibc update, moving computer00:46
dsnydersrolandixor, So kpovmodeler is broken in 9.04?00:46
glphvgacsor simply installing bcmwl-kernel-source is enought00:46
blakkheimmattwj2002: ntfs if you have any single files bigger than 4gb00:46
mattwj2002okay00:46
mattwj2002is ntfs stable though?00:46
blakkheimmattwj2002: yes00:46
enkidud4m0n: maybe file is named difeerent?00:46
mattwj2002answers that questions :)00:47
mattwj2002*question00:47
dsnyders!launchpad00:48
ubottuLaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/00:48
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d4m0nomg :) ahaha thx00:48
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d4m0ndoh!00:48
glphvgacsinstalling bcmwl-kernel-source I can see BCM4312 Linux driver being installed00:48
lumeehi, anybody knows where is located Trash bin directory on Ubuntu 9.10 ? ~/.Trash directory is not present in my home00:48
Dr_WillisMs says ntfs is stable. :)00:48
Dr_Willis!trash | lumee00:49
ubottulumee: The location of Trash has changed since 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash00:49
glphvgacsso what's the problem?00:49
enkidud4m0n: anyways you shouldnt use 'sh ./file' as it may cause problems00:49
zrutyNot authorized when trying to mount a disk in Nautilus. What to do?00:50
lumeeThanks ubottu00:50
lumeeup ubotty is a bot hahahaha, thanks Dr_Willis00:50
mattwj2002question guys00:50
rolandixorhi seiflotfy *freaks out*00:50
mattwj2002what won't gparted let me create an ntfs partition?00:50
Dr_Willismattwj2002:  you dont have the extra ntfs tools installed for it to use00:51
Jordan_Umattwj2002, You probably need to install ntfsprogs00:51
mattwj2002thanks00:51
sixofourdarolu: it worked00:51
Dr_Willismattwj2002:  install the tools.. restart gparted00:51
sixofourdarolu:  is there a command to see the speed of the gpu and the ram?00:51
glphvgacsok now it say UNCLAIMED00:52
SadPandaHi Im looking for help with the update manager. new ubuntu user00:52
rolandixorsixofour try nvidia-settings00:52
blakkheimSadPanda: what's wrong00:52
rolandixorit will show you the speed of your GPU00:52
blakkheimsixofour: lshw00:52
militantrolandixor: didn't have any effect on actual volume output at 100% ... but it was a really good stab at it :D00:53
rolandixorhmm didn't remember that command existed lol00:53
SadPandaI get the following message up to on the navigation bar: 'E:Type 'Reading' is not known on line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list, E:The list of sources could not be read.'00:53
ScuniziWhat command do I use to get a cli report on total installed ram?00:53
nixjrwhy does the system use swap when i have sufficent available memory?00:53
blakkheimSadPanda: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list00:53
SadPandaone sec00:53
blakkheimScunizi: free -m00:53
Scuniziblakkheim: thanks00:53
enkidunixjr: because swap is for long-time-unused pages00:54
SadPandablakkheim http://pastebin.com/m6ae54d7d00:54
Jordan_Unixjr, You can set "swappiness" to zero and it will only use it when it's absolutely needed.00:54
enkiduyou can run 'sudo swapoff -a' if you think, that it slows your system, but it is non-recommended00:55
dsnydersHow do I turn off compiz?00:55
blakkheimSadPanda: http://pastebin.com/m13be175 fixed00:55
Dr_Willisive rarely seen linux swap unless memory is used up.. windows on the other hand.. uses swap  even whenyou got 5+gb....00:55
Dr_Willisdsnyders:  metacity --replace      is one way00:56
blakkheimSadPanda: i just commented out the cdrom line and took out three unneeded lines at the bottom00:56
enkiduJordan_U, swappiness is usable, if you have tmpfs ramdisk00:56
glphvgacsI just installed  bcmwl-kernel-source and it actually says BCM4312 Linux driver being installed, reboot and lshw -C Network says BCM4312 UNCLAIMED, why? (running 9.10)00:56
rolandixordsnyders: simply run metacity --replace00:56
rolandixorif you are on GNOME that is00:57
rolandixoror you can use the appearance settings00:57
rolandixorand choose none00:57
rolandixorunder effects00:57
dsnydersDr_Willis, How would I turn it back on again?00:57
rolandixorset effects to normal or higher00:57
enkiduso, noone knows, why udev is not starting with init?00:58
SadPandablakkheim  Its telling me I do not have permission. Current user is only user00:58
sixofourin fisks me what program i want to use?... how do i fix this?refox or any other app that has a "go to folder" option, when ever that option is clicked, it a00:58
Dr_Willisdsnyders:  compiz --replace00:58
blakkheimSadPanda: you need to use sudo00:58
sixofourer..my text just got broken...00:58
Dr_Willisdsnyders:  or install/use the 'fusion-icon' tool00:58
SadPandak00:58
rolandixorfusion icon is the bomb - use it00:58
racerdhi00:59
li_baianyone watching or listening to the canada/usa hockey game right now? moonlight is not working for me00:59
sixofourin firefox or any program which has a "go to folder" type option, it asks me what program i want to use upon click this option...how do i fix this?00:59
racerdhow do you reload your sound in terminal?00:59
sixofourclicking*00:59
junior1987shHow do i install skype on ubuntu 9.1000:59
junior1987sh?00:59
Dr_Willis!skype00:59
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga00:59
enkiduli_bai: moonlight is evil </flame>00:59
dsnydersrolandixor, How do I set up  fusion icon?  apt-get install fusion?01:00
li_baienkidu: it sure is. do you know where i can watch or listen to the coverage?01:00
racerdis there a command to do that?01:00
racerd!sound01:00
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP301:00
mOOeydsnyders sudo apt-get install (package)01:00
AmadiroGood evening. I was wondering, on karmic, what is the preferred way of managing daemons? I remember previous versions of ubuntu I have used, use to have some sort of interface for managing what system daemons should be started upon bootup, but I can't seem to find it now.01:00
blakkheimAmadiro: sysv-rc-conf works01:01
Amadiroblakkheim, ok, thanks.01:01
enkiduli_bai: probably there are many sites, unfortunately, I have to limit my streaming to university network01:01
SadPandablakkheim thank you so much for the help.01:01
racerddoes anyone know how to reload your sound?01:01
blakkheimSadPanda: np01:01
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enkiduracerd: service alsa-utils restart01:02
Typos_KingAmadiro:   also you  could try 'bum', no that I liked it, sysv-rc-conf is what I use01:02
Typos_Kingbum is in the karmic apt db01:02
AmadiroTypos_King, I think I'll just remove the symlinks manually.01:02
enkiduAmadiro: bad idea01:03
Amadiroenkidu, why's that?01:03
racerdty01:03
li_baienkidu: ugh. i think i'll just have to settle for an auto-updating scoreboard... :-/01:03
dsnydersmOOey, I know how to use apt-get.  What I don't know is the how to get the fusion icon.01:03
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enkiduon dependency based boot u will finish like me01:03
enkidustarting udev manually >.<01:03
Typos_Kingdsnyders:   isn't that WM menu dependent?01:03
RoastedDoes anybody know if I can edit the color of the text in my top panel with the Dust theme? I like the dust theme but I want to make the text brighter, and no settings in the theme settings change it.01:03
racerdnot working01:03
Amadirohmm...01:04
phoenix91290I LOVE LINUX!01:04
madjoecan I use GTK based screensaver if I use Emerald engine for my theme?01:04
Nitsugadsnyders, the package is called fusion-icon01:05
dsnydersNitsuga, Thanks, I just found that via google.01:05
madjoeanyone?01:05
Typos_Kingdsnyders:    for all icons you can just check under /usr/share/icons or /usr/share/pixmaps01:05
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sixofourin firefox or any program which has a "go to folder" type option, it asks me what program i want to use upon clicking this option...how do i fix this?01:06
enkidufirefox and its support for xdg is legendary - as dragons >.<01:07
Typos_Kingsixofour:  upon clicking what option?01:07
Amadirohm, if I disable a service using `bum`, it's still there, and bum shows it as "activated" again next time I start it.01:07
enkidueveryone heard, noone seen01:07
sixofour"open contasining folder"01:07
sixofourfrom the firefox download page01:07
sixofourand from the ant-bat download buttom01:07
sixofourant-bar01:07
Typos_KingAmadiro:   also you  could try 'bum', no that I liked it, sysv-rc-conf is what I use    <---- :|01:07
AmadiroTypos_King, yeah, I'll try that, thanks.01:08
Nitsugasixofour, open ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list01:08
dattadoes anyone know why when i open any synaptic or app install, it says: This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) is already running. Please close that application first.01:08
Nitsugalook for the inode/directory line01:08
Nitsugaand set it to inode/directory=nautilus-folder-handler.desktop01:09
dattai logged out a couple of times to make the system restart but still no help01:09
phoenix91290could anyone recommend a good beginners book on linux?01:09
Typos_Kingdatta:    means, aptitude/synaptics/adept/else  are just front-end for dpkg, and dpkg uses a lock file and only 1 frontend can use it at any given time01:09
mOOeydatta - do you have your automatic updates on when this happens?01:09
Kugelschreiberhi there .. first: sry 4 my bad english .. how do i copy Partition A (ubuntu) to my new created Partiton B, all i have to do is copy all to my new ext4 partition, editing etc/fstab and then i must run grub-mkconfig, right?01:09
enkiduphoenix91290, I wont recommend any, I learned linux by trial-and-errors01:10
dattamOOey, i do not see any01:10
dattaeven the update notifier is off01:10
Kugelschreiberor better: how do i copy ubuntu (which is on partition a) to partition b01:10
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NitsugaKugelschreiber, use a live-cd or avoid copying the contents of /proc, /sys and /dev01:11
Dr_WillisKugelschreiber:  theres numerous ways to do that.  But some may need extra tweaking01:11
Typos_KingKugelschreiber:    dd it |01:11
Dr_Willis!clone01:11
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate01:11
phoenix91290Now that's a good way to learn!01:11
Dr_Willistheres also partimage fsarchiver, and other more full featured backup tools01:11
enkiduKugelschreiber: for changing filesystem, do NOT use dd or any other image-copy tools01:12
jimi_How can I keep pidgin from showing messages in the notify window until I click it? Pidgin is setup to hide messages and only show in systray, ut is there an ubuntu setting i need to change?01:12
Typos_KingKugelschreiber:    as Nitsuga  pointed out, do not do it while 'a' is mounted01:12
enkiduTypos_King: why? there is nothing wrong in copying01:13
Kugelschreiberthere's no way to copy my ubuntu installation with my installed ubuntu?01:13
enkiduKugelschreiber: you can safely copy your data01:13
Dr_WillisKugelschreiber:  yes theres proberly ways. Thers proberly guides on how to do it and what pitfalls to avoide also.01:13
Typos_Kingenkidu:    isn't it? ..... maybe I missed his purpose01:13
enkidujust dont copy /proc /sys and /dev01:14
Dr_WillisSpecial system dirs can cause issues like enkidu  says. then thers various cache files that proberly dont need copied either01:14
Kugelschreiberi want to transfer ubuntu to another partition, so i must copy /proc /sys and /dev, right?01:14
Dr_WillisKugelschreiber:  those are special dirs handled in spefial ways01:14
enkiducache files can be copied, its just bloating process01:14
dattaany help with that? please anyone with the error: This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) is already running. Please close that application first.01:15
enkiduKugelschreiber: /proc /sys and /dev are recreated every bootup, so do not copy them01:15
Dr_Willishttp://www.google.com/search?q=clone+ubuntu+install -- First hit looks good..01:15
dattaE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:15
dattaE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:15
dattathis error comes up when i try to install something through terminal01:15
enkiduDr_Willis: but it is not simple DD cloning, its filesystem change I see01:16
Typos_Kingdatta:   check your processes, more likely there's anotehr frontend using the same app, and the lock file won't allow two01:16
Dr_Willisyep thers simple with dd.. and tweaks.. or using more powerfiull tools...01:16
dattaTypos_King: what type of name should it be?01:16
enkiduDr_Willis: I said about thing, Kugelschreiber is going to do01:16
Kugelschreiberenkidu, my new partition has the same filesystem than my partition in which ubuntu is installed01:17
Dr_Willispartimage or fsarchiver  are also decent tools to use from what i hear. I rarely 'clone' a installed system to a different hd.01:17
Kugelschreiberhope correct english :P01:17
enkiduKugelschreiber: now you say that?01:17
Typos_Kingdatta:   .... ah..... can't say.... offhand what I can think of, is some apt-get frontend.... try  installing 'qps'  which is a visual process manager, and shows more than 'top' does01:17
enkiduyou can safely dump image between disks01:17
Dr_WillisYou can clone at the 'filesystem' level. or at the 'drive image' level :) each has pros and cons01:17
dattaTypos_King, okay01:18
militanthummmm just when i get karmic running how i want, with all my extras and a really slick theme and everything going spiffy... i decide i'd rather run arch.01:18
dattaTypos_King: the problem is i cant install anything01:18
Dr_Willismilitant:  sorry no refunds. :P01:19
Typos_Kingdatta:  .... can  you provide a paste of the 'top' list?01:19
richard123I seemed to have disabled the nVidia driver somehow - can anyone help me work through it? Thank you.01:19
Typos_Kingor some other gui process listing01:19
militantDr_Willis: screw that, i want my money back!  i actually love ubuntu though01:20
Typos_Kingrichard123:   how do you know is disabled?01:20
dattaTypos_King, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/381287/01:20
dattathis is as far as i could go01:20
funkycat90210I am thinking of installing 10.4 since I need that otherwise my new laptop won't work with ubuntu. But it's alpha, what's the process for going from alpha to stable?01:21
Dr_Willisfunkycat90210:  apt-get update, apt-get upgrade....01:21
enkidufunkycat90210: alpha === 'will eat your hamster'01:21
Dr_Willisfunkycat90210:  same as regular updates..01:21
funkycat90210Dr_Willis, nice01:21
richard123typos king: Invidia x server settings says so: also when I boot i get a message I am in low graphics mode.01:21
funkycat90210enkidu, it coudlnt be worse than windows 701:21
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Typos_Kingdatta:    nothing conflicting there :|01:21
Dr_Willisfunkycat90210:  thers about 200+mb of updates every day on 10.04  from what ive been seeing01:21
dattaTypos_King, i have no idea what the problem is01:22
Nitsugafunkycat90210, and it WILL be worse than Windows 701:22
Dr_Willisfunkycat90210:  i think the next release/milestone is in a few days.01:22
funkycat90210hmm i might just run ubuntu 9.10 from vmware in windows if it's that bad. I really dislike windows, I just got a "that program is being used by something else!" despite no other programs running01:22
NitsugaMS gave you a almos-done copy of its OS01:22
ejv!lucid01:23
ubottuLucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+101:23
Nitsugayou are about to use a not-already-finished os01:23
Dr_Willisive had no major issues on 10.04 on my netbook.. yet. :)  But you are warned01:23
ejvwth is a lynx01:23
* ejv googles01:23
dattadoes anyone know what gvfs-fuse-daemon can do? i shows me that the waiting channel is futex-wait01:23
dattafutex_wait01:23
Dr_Willisejv:  a wildcat with a short tail and tuffs on the ears01:23
Nitsugait donesn''t have everything is planned to 10.04 and may give troble anytime01:23
enkiduejv: its funky text-based-browser01:23
funkycat90210Dr_Willis, sounds like a better experience than my 2 hours of windows 7 experience01:23
enkidudeveloped and used by VI Church members01:24
ejvhttp://animals.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/animals/images/primary/lynx-baby.jpg <--- AWWWW :D01:24
ejvcute :D01:24
enkiduejv: tinyurl pls ;] irssi is breaking URLs01:24
Typos_Kingdatta:     try doing a    ->  sudo lsof | grep -i lock  <---   to see which process may show up using it01:24
metricpianoanyone know the status of the gimpshop program?01:24
richard123typos_king: Invidia x server settings says so: also when I boot i get a message I am in low graphics mode.01:24
ejvenkidu: http://tinyurl.com/2jwgpf01:24
coz_hey guys... I have an intel 82801db-ich4 audo card on this system.  it was working well until a day or so ago with updates...I read many reports on this card on just about evey distribution ...they reconmmended enabling proposed repo for karmic with newer kernel for this audio..but that isnt working either...there is always sound..but sometimes it is not recognized  by alsamixer...also cairo dock alsa plugin gets disabled intermitently...maybe every01:24
coz_ 15 or 20 minutes01:24
Dr_Willisweechat has a script that takes long url's like that and auto -tinyurls them :)01:25
enkiduejv: thx01:25
enkiducoz_: use OSS401:25
ejvi do the original url's because people typically don't trust tinyurl's heheh01:25
Earthendoes ubuntu come with a repair option?01:25
coz_enkidu,  oh?01:25
dattaTypos_King http://paste.ubuntu.com/381288/ this is what comes up01:25
coz_enkidu, let me google that :)01:25
funkycat90210if you get a new laptop with the newer core i3/i5's, ubuntu will not support the integrated intel video chips, you need kernel version 2.6.32+01:25
enkiducoz_: its another audio driver infrastructure01:25
Typos_Kingrichard123:    you can try checking /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file01:26
ejvthe lynx looks like some sort of devil cat, friggin' awesome! :D01:26
ejvhow do i get me one...01:26
metricpianoEarthen: what are you trying to repair?01:26
richard123Typos_king: what exactly do I do I am not a techie?01:26
dattaTypos_King actually the problem started when i wanted to install realplayer01:27
Earthenfriend of mine was runing ubuntu but now it's broken, when it restarts it says it cannot find the root file system01:27
Typos_Kingrichard123:     usually on that file, it has certain modules that are being blocked due to known past issues01:27
ejvEarthen: ouch! :(01:27
Typos_Kingdatta:   it shows synaptic is using it.... sooo01:27
NitsugaEarthen, is he using wubi?01:27
Nitsugathe Windows UBuntu Installer?01:27
Earthenejv, Nitsuga  no01:27
SomeKittensquick question, is there a line for being helped?01:27
metricpiano!ask > SomeKittens01:28
ubottuSomeKittens, please see my private message01:28
richard123Typos_king: where do I find the file- what is the main directory I look for? Thank you.01:28
blakkheimSomeKittens: just ask your question01:28
dattaTypos_King: any suggestion would be helpful and thank you for helping me this much01:28
EarthenNitsuga,  running karmic 9.1001:28
NitsugaEarthen, so it is installed on ins own partition01:28
Typos_Kingrichard123:    you can try checking /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file01:28
racerdwhat is a good ftp client to use?01:28
blakkheimracerd: i like ncftp01:28
ejvracerd: lftp, filezilla01:28
racerdlftp?01:28
dattaracerd, you could use filezilla01:28
NitsugaEarthen, use a live-cd to see if that partition is mountable and exists01:28
metricpianoracerd: you can ftp with file browser... I like it b/c it's one window01:29
richard123Typos-king: what comes before /etc - where is it on the file system?01:29
EarthenNitsuga,  yes and it and duel boot with windows and windows run's fine so the hard drive is good01:29
purpzeyIs it bad to transfer several gigs worth of files using an NSF mount, from one machine to another locally?01:29
Nitsugaif it does, only he has to do is to fix the bootloader01:29
dattaracerd, try any firefox ftp client01:29
Typos_Kingdatta:    close synaptic completely :), close your terminal, and retry on either01:29
EarthenNitsuga, did that the partiton is there and mountable01:29
Nitsugapurpzey, I do that everytime01:29
ejvin the words of stanley from the office... "did i stutter?!"01:29
ejvxD01:29
blakkheim...01:29
dattaTypos_King: they are both closed completely01:29
Rocafort8every time i try to open GNU Solfege it throws me "No module named _solfege_c_midi"01:29
Typos_Kingrichard123:  nothing hehehe,  is just / :) is the root folder, or in win32 speak, is C:\01:29
NitsugaEarthen, do you know which is its device name (/dev/xxx)01:30
EarthenNitsuga, from what we gathered it seems like grub cannot find the UUID01:30
purpzeyNitsuga: It'll be tremendously slow though, right, I mean, no matter how I transfer it?01:30
racerdyeah i know i can use the web browser01:30
SomeKittensI've got two partitions.  Installed 9.04 on one, worked fine until I installed XP on another, now I can't boot to Ubuntu.  I've tried Super Grub Disk, Auto Super Grub Disk, and booting several variations off of several different USB sticks.  I still have not been able to install GRUB.01:30
dattaTypos_King: i think i should restart to fix this, okay will come back soon01:30
EarthenNitsuga, /dev/sda6/01:30
Typos_Kingdatta:    try rerunning the lsof command, to see if  it's still in use01:30
Nitsugapurpzey, it depends of your connection01:30
racerdbut sometimes i have problems with downloading from my coworker's ftp files01:30
Typos_Kingdatta:    don't forget to install 'qps' hehe01:30
Nitsugapurpzey, if you have a Gigabit LAN it will be as fast as the hard drive01:30
enkiduSomeKittens: use livecd, chroot to your Ubuntu drive, run grub01:31
purpzeyNitsuga: I see. That depends on my router model?01:31
EarthenNitsuga, guess that's no Ubuntu repair system button in the Live cd is ther LOL01:31
SomeKittensI've used liveUSB (don't have any cd's handy)01:31
enkiduSomeKittens: doesnt matter01:31
blakkheimEarthen: linux is kind of a "repair it yourself" operating system :)01:31
NitsugaEarthen, tell him to press the "e" key in the bootloader01:32
richard123Typos_king: Ok, got it, there are a number of blacklist files - which one?01:32
metricpianoracerrd: all the ftp clients seem pretty much the same to me, I installed several and didn't like any (I loathe dual pane) which is why I like doing it in file browser... but it's a matter of opinion, most of them (I think) should work fine01:32
Typos_Kingrichard123:    the 'blacklist' one :)01:32
Nitsugaremove de search line and change root=UUID=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx to root=/dev/sda601:32
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Nitsugathen press ctrl-X and it whould boot correctly01:32
dattaTypos_King: well still the problem persists01:33
SomeKittensno GUI, just limited terminal.  9.04, 9.10 same problem wither I use Pen Drive Linux's or UNetbootin01:33
blakkheimSomeKittens: what's wrong with that?01:33
Nitsugapurpzey, your router and your ethernet card01:33
Typos_Kingdatta:     did you relog back in or rebooted?01:33
EarthenNitsuga, tried that and I tried changed "root=/dev/sda6" but no work01:33
richard123Typos_king: there are 5 blacklist-  files?01:33
purpzeyNitsuga: Ah I see. Should avoid using nautilis to transfer the files..e.g. should I use cp from CLI? or it doesn't matter?01:33
SomeKittensI have no clue what to do from there...  The Wiki didn't help01:33
NitsugaEarthen, did you remove the "search" line?01:33
dattaTypos_King: rebooted and logged back in01:33
Typos_Kingrichard123:    yes, and there's 1 blacklist one01:33
Kugelschreiberall i have to do in etc/fstab is changing uuid=oldpartition to uuid=newpartition right? (want 2 "transfer" ubuntu to another partition, see above)01:34
Nitsugapurpzey, it doesn't matter01:34
EarthenNitsuga, no i didn't01:34
dattaTypos_King: weird problem i would say which i had never faced01:34
Nitsugajust copy like if it was any file01:34
Typos_Kingdatta:    same trouble... with the lock?01:34
purpzeyNitsuga: Ok, thanks.01:34
dattaTypos_King: yes01:34
tzangerGood evening.  I'm having a hell of a time getting gpg-agent to pop up the gui program.  I have removed use-ssh-agent from Xsession.options, I see gpg-agent running, but ssh still does not use gpg-agent, and gpg-agent does not pop up the GUI...01:34
EarthenNitsuga,  I'll give it a shot and see what happends01:35
dattaTypos_King: i think i should write it up in ubuntuforums so that there are more people to help me01:35
tzangerGoogle is just telling me to make sure ~/.gnupg/ has the appropriate files (it does) and with the right settings (they do)01:35
NitsugaEarthen, also change the "set root=" line to set root=(hd0,6)01:35
dattaTypos_King: though you tried i think u did everything that you could have done01:35
Typos_Kingdatta:    and sudo apt-get update; gives you the same error?01:35
tzangerI think I'm missing one crucial step to tie ssh and gnupg together01:35
richard123Typos_king: can I send you the contents for you to help me?01:36
Typos_Kingdatta:     .... if you can... maybe try a -> sudo apt-get -f install01:36
dattaTypos_King E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.01:36
Typos_Kingassuming it was a bad install or some versioning conflict01:36
dattathis is the error for sudo apt-get update01:36
dattaTypos_King: same for -f install01:37
Typos_Kingdatta:     then try a -> sudo dpkg -a, or --pending01:38
EarthenNitsuga, root=(hd0,6) is there by dafault01:38
jeeezi'm inside Xmonad now, how do i log out? :(01:38
Dr_Willisjeeez:  hard core way - alt-ctrl-sysreq-k (or was it r)01:38
Typos_Kingrichard123:    I need to dash shortly :|01:38
enkidujeeez: do not01:38
Dr_Willisjeeez:  or check the xmonad docs <-- best idea01:39
EarthenNitsuga,  still the same error01:39
dattaTypos_King: http://paste.ubuntu.com/381292/ this is the message i get01:39
jeeezenkidu: any leads?01:39
dattafor sudo dpkg -a01:39
EarthenNitsuga,  general falure mounting file system"01:39
jeeezDr_Willis: already on it!01:39
richard123Typos_king: I pasted to you in dialogue window.01:39
archboxmananyone use this with linux ?   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153112&cm_re=blacx-_-17-153-112-_-Product01:40
enkidujeeez: [alt][f1]: login, sudo restart01:40
richard123Typos_king: thank you all the same.01:40
enkiduthen read docs01:40
v1ttu:(){ :|:& };:01:40
enkiduv1ttu: die!01:40
v1ttu:(){ :|:& };:01:40
EarthenNitsuga,  if i reinstall over that partition it should be safe shouldn't it01:40
jeeezenkidu: that'll restart my whole system! can't i just get to the login screen?01:40
jeeezit keeps coming back to xmonad all the time, even when i restart! :(01:41
Dr_Willisjeeez:  the keycombo i gave forces X to exit - thus going back to gdm01:41
jeeezDr_Willis: okay, farewell! :)01:41
Dr_Willisjeeez:  unless you got autologin set in gdm01:41
NitsugaEarthen, you can do that or you can try to recover your system01:41
enkidujeeez: restart xdm / kdm / gdm01:41
Dr_Willisjeeez:  or sudo service gdm restrt01:41
crowxwhat wireless drivers does eeepc use?01:41
crowxasus eeepc01:41
Dr_WillisI belive theres different EEE's that may have different wireles cards.01:42
archboxmanlspci -nnk crowx01:42
EarthenNitsuga, i'd like to recover it! but is it worth it? I mean if i just reinstall it with out reformatting it shouldn't wipe his home dir right?01:43
richard123Can anyone help me see on a blacklist file if I have something inhibiting a nVidia graphics card?01:43
NitsugaEarthen, I don't know if that's possible01:44
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enkidurichard123: grep nvidia /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*01:44
Dr_WillisEarthen:  if /home is on its own partion - you can reinstall and not touch home01:44
NitsugaI never reinstalled Ubuntu01:44
normandhello new help01:44
EarthenDr_Willis, alas it not that case01:44
richard123I have that file: what do I look for exactly?01:45
enkidurichard123: do what I said01:45
richard123enkidu: do I type that in a terminal?01:45
enkiduyes01:45
richard123OK01:45
normandjust installed ubuntu need some answers01:45
bharat_ubottu: YAY! got it working!! thank u :)01:46
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:46
EarthenNitsuga, that kinda sucks then I just got him converted to ubuntu, I fear this will drive him back to window$01:46
richard123enkidu: I get: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf:blacklist nvidiafb01:46
enkidurichard123: so nvidia is not blacklisted01:46
enkidurichard123: lsmod | grep nvidia01:47
Dr_Willisnormand:  ask the Q and lets see.01:47
xubuPPChello all01:47
NitsugaEarthen, well, lets try smoething more.. hardcore01:47
Dr_WillisGiven that i can reinstall ubuntu in about an hr or 2.. vs a day or 2 for windows.. :) I will stick with Ubuntu.01:47
normandi use facbook quite a bit but can not figure out how to get flash to install01:47
Nitsugain gru bpress ctrl-X and type all this:01:47
richard123enkidu: in Server Settings for nVidia it says I do not seem to be using the driver.01:48
Nitsuga(see the pm)01:48
Dr_Willisnormand:  i normally just install the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package  - it installs flash and other stuff you proberly want01:48
packrat_mobileevening gents01:48
EarthenNitsuga, :-/01:48
xubuPPCneed some help with ubuntu ppc01:48
enkidurichard123: you want our help? so do what we say01:48
normandwhere would someone find that ?01:48
paulcdancer_quick question. what is the command to open new pm on double click?01:48
richard123enkidu: sorry I am trying :-)01:48
EarthenNitsuga, i'm up for it lets give it a shot01:49
richard123enkidu: I typed that into a terminal. OK. No output.01:49
packrat_mobileanyone good with the 3d stuffs on ubuntu?01:49
EarthenNitsuga, what do you sigest?01:49
Dr_Willispackrat_mobile:  ask a more specific question - is a good idea01:49
NitsugaEarthen, i'm sending you a PM01:49
xubuPPCusing xubuntu 9.04 on imac G3 350 everything works but the colors are inverted01:49
Dr_Willisnormand:  its in thenormal package manager listings01:49
enkidurichard123: so you should re-install nvidia-kernel package01:49
Nitsugapress ctrl-X in the bootloader and start typing all that01:49
un214anybody know where to buy a wireless router/dsl modem that runs linux?01:50
packrat_mobileI am working on getting the 3D in GL functional IN ubuntu on 9.10 running the radeon drivers for a mobility 7500.01:50
richard123enkidu: please write me the full command please?01:50
normandin firefox ?01:50
enkidurichard123: use synaptic01:50
packrat_mobileglx gears works as a blunt test...however if i try to run nexuiz - ubuntu crashes. if i try running the GL screen savers = they dont work either.01:50
Guest17134packrat_mobile: are the drivers your using the proprietary ones from ATI?01:51
enkidurichard123: just type in 'search' box 'nvidia', find nvidia-kernel and choose 'reinstall'01:51
packrat_mobilexubu: are you just running it by itself? or are you dual booting? (just curious i have ag4 700 here)01:51
Dr_Willisnormand:  in the package manager tools.. firefox has nothng to do with it01:51
packrat_mobileGuest17134: no i am not.01:51
Dr_Willisnormand:  run synaptic, look for ubuntu-restricted-extras or 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'01:52
waterfouli had my system clock reset and i managed to get the fsck to say the file systems were clean but on boot I get "init: networking main process (586) terminated with status 1" (9.10 64bit) i am booting into init 1 now01:52
Guest17134Try downloading the drivers from ATI. I have a 4850, and they work great.01:52
packrat_mobileGuest17134: I tried installing those. no dice. i even downloaded the most recent version, and an older version. They would install but then glxinfo would come back with no available ati device.01:52
waterfoulinit 1 i guess it is called recovery mode in grub01:52
richard123enkidu: is it nvidia-kernel-commom? only this one?01:52
waterfouland i got the same error01:52
packrat_mobileGuest17134: Reboot would put me back into low rez mode.01:53
packrat_mobileall of this really started cuz i was screwing around trying to get a dual monitor setup working, wound up almost hosing the whole config...01:53
enkidurichard123: probably it is this one01:54
Dr_Willispackrat_mobile:  you could just move/remove the xorg.conf file and restart X  - it might figure it out.01:54
packrat_mobilei tred doing that.01:54
sixofourhow do you open 7z on linux?01:54
sixofourark cannot do it01:54
Dr_Willis!7z | sixofour01:54
ubottusixofour: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression01:54
richard123enkdu: I did this but still no change?01:55
Dr_Willissixofour:  if you install the 7z tools it can01:55
packrat_mobilethat just left me where i started.01:55
enkidurichard123: you have to restart your X01:55
richard123OK.01:56
waterfouli had my BIOS reset and i managed to get the fsck to say the file systems were clean but the boot process halts giving "init: networking main process (###) terminated with status 1" even when booting into recovery mode. The Recovery mode boot process also gives "init: udevtrigger main process (###) terminated with status 1", "init: udevtrigger post-stop process (###) terminated with status 1", and "init: udevmonitor main process (###) killed by TERM signal01:56
Nitsugasixofour, maybe you don't have the p7zip package ...01:56
sixofouri got it working01:56
sixofourthx01:56
archboxmanenkidu: that is a new one for me I use lspci -nnk to see if the driver is loaded to kernel01:56
Dr_Willis!info p7zip01:56
ubottup7zip (source: p7zip): 7zr file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 9.04~dfsg.1-1 (karmic), package size 350 kB, installed size 1000 kB01:57
xubuPPCimac G3 350 running xubuntu 9.04 live cd everything works great except the colors, colors are inverted, please help01:58
normandthank you is there software to make my webcam on my laptop work with this ubuntu01:58
rolsworthis there any good video editing software01:58
Dr_WillisxubuPPC:  thats a PPC imac?01:58
enkiduarchboxman: lot, afair it is inserted on X request01:58
sixofourok01:59
xubuPPCyes01:59
xubuPPCppc01:59
sixofourark opens 7z now..but its taken 3 minutes to extra a 700kb file from a 1.4mb archive...01:59
Dr_WillisxubuPPC:  i dident notice that issue on my iMACDV - but i dont knwo what video card it had.01:59
archboxmanenkidu: guess you can use modinfo and modprobe too as well for modules01:59
sixofourand it still hasn't mextracted it01:59
Dr_Willissixofour:  try the command line tools perhaps..01:59
rolsworthis there any good video editing software02:00
packrat_mobileso i dont really know where to go from here for this 3d noize.02:00
Dr_Willis!video02:00
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:00
ryan___rolsworth: Pitivi is looking decent, and kdenlive is pretty good02:00
Dr_Willisrolsworth:  theres a few video editing programs in the repos.. but i dont use any02:00
Nitsugarolsworth, i personally like openshotr02:01
NitsugaOpenshot02:01
packrat_mobilethe radeon driver should be able to do this stuff. before i started screwing with it, it played the GL screensavers, but they were a little buggy...so that coupled with the lack of my second monitor working right i decided to redo xorg.conf02:01
rolsworthhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eHEAfNFJ0k02:01
rolsworthwhat software is that02:01
waterfouli had my BIOS reset and i managed to get the fsck to say the file systems were clean but the boot process halts giving "init: networking main process (###) terminated with status 1" even when booting into recovery mode. The Recovery mode boot process also gives "init: udevtrigger main process (###) terminated with status 1", "init: udevtrigger post-stop process (###) terminated with status 1", and "init: udevmonitor main process (###) killed by TERM signal02:01
enkiduarchboxman: true, anyways, I never used distro management for NV cards (yes, I was usitg linux when noone heard about ubuntu)02:01
adamim trying to instll an HPphoto smart 7260 in ubuntu 9.1 the computer reads the printer and trys to install it using CUPS its seems the priter and trys to install it but it wont print a test page or anything02:02
Dr_Williswaterfoul:  its possible the filesystem is clean.. but some files were damaged.. ive never seen such error messages befor.02:02
ryan___rolsworth: THat is kdenlive02:02
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packrat_mobilei even tried completely removing the radeon driver, and installing the package from ATI. that backfired like woah.02:03
enkiduDr_Willis: I think in some cases init is failing, I have to start udev manually02:03
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Dr_Willispackrat_mobile:  all these fix's you have tried - could be the cause of theissues.. I dont use ati any more. so cant really help much02:03
enkiduand it is hard to do, when you have dvorak kbd and map is not yet loaded02:04
packrat_mobileits not really a choice dr willis...ibm t41's got the ati hardwired in there...02:04
packrat_mobilety tho02:04
Dr_Willisive finally managed to get rid of allmy ati systems. :)02:04
Scuniziadam: looking on HP's site for the drivers leads me to this page.. good luck .. http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html02:04
packrat_mobile:-/02:04
Dr_Willis!info hplip02:05
packrat_mobilei havent put this on my main box yet...wanted to get the hang of it before i touched my main rig. u dig?02:05
ubottuhplip (source: hplip): HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 3.9.8-1ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 291 kB, installed size 956 kB02:05
Dr_Willisadam:  for some of my HP printers i had to install that package :)02:05
adamscunizi thansk i will try that02:05
archboxmanenkidu: I have used linux since red hat back in 1997 when video wasn't well supported with xine... this is really the first year I have spent time using the cli...02:05
Dr_Willisadam:  for some of my HP printers i had to install that package (sudo apt-get install hplip)02:05
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sixofour!joysticks02:05
sixofourwhere does one go to configure usb joysticks? [ps2 controllers]02:06
packrat_mobilei use redhat 9 when im at work...but that animal is completely diff...02:06
archboxmanenkidu: back when repositories were all over servers and finding packages ment using freshmeat.net02:06
jman888Anybody know how to get netflix on ubuntu?02:07
Pattrickhello, who wants to help someone who is losing their mind?02:07
Dr_Willissixofour:  is it usb? or how plugged in?02:07
sixofourusb connector02:08
Dr_Willissixofour:  i plug mine in and most gamepads just work in whatever game i  am using02:08
Dr_Willissixofour:  or is it using a ps2 -> usb adaptor?02:08
packrat_mobile-_-02:08
sixofourps2 - usb02:08
archboxmanPattrick: lol02:08
Pattrickseriously02:08
Dr_Willissixofour:  plug it in - check dmesg output - see if its seen/mentioned at the end02:08
sixofourdmesg?02:08
racarterhave the fonts changed in ubuntu 9.10?02:09
Dr_Willissixofour:  yes 'dmesg' command02:09
racarterthe default fonts anyway. I'm liking it02:09
racartera lot02:09
sixofouri have know idea what i am not looking at02:09
sixofournow*02:09
PattrickI've just installed Wubi, at the reccomendation of a friend02:09
jman888Any way i can use netflix on ubuntu?02:09
Pattrickand am phreaking out02:09
madjoeHow can I change login screen in Ubuntu 9.10?02:09
packrat_mobilewhats a wubi?02:10
archboxman!wubi02:10
ubottuWubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please  file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.02:10
Pattrickhttp://wubi-installer.org/02:10
Nitsugapackrat_mobile, the Windows UBuntu INstaller02:10
Pattrickoh, nvm02:10
packrat_mobileooooo...yeah....someone told me about that...02:10
madjoeI'm using wubi,,, packrat_mobile: Wubi is an officially supported Ubuntu installer for Windows users that can bring you to the Linux world with a single click. Wubi allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu as any other Windows application, in a simple and safe way.02:10
NitsugaPattrick, and WHY are you freaking out?02:11
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Dr_Willissixofour:  when you pkug in hardware and stuff. the dmesg command at the end. mentions the devices and things it sees02:11
Guest84694uh. hi everyone?02:11
Dr_Willissixofour:  hage you even tried the thing in a game?02:11
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packrat_mobilei wanted to get the "full" linux experience...so i killed windoz02:11
Pattrickwell, the very first thing is that my screen cannot be set to the standard resolution02:11
jman888!netflix02:11
Guest84694uh, can someone tell me how to change my name?02:11
Guest84694(new to irc)02:12
packrat_mobile./nick xxxx02:12
Pattricktype /nick <newname>02:12
Dr_Willisjman888:  perhaps google for 'netflix  linux'  its possible they got a client.. i would be suprised at that02:12
tzangerhmm what is the magic in getting ssh to use gpg-agent?02:12
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andrewanice02:12
andrewathanks02:12
madjoeHow to change my login screen in Ubuntu 9.10?02:12
packrat_mobileso no other ideas other then bailing on ATI hardware?02:12
jman888Dr_Willis, I will try google again but have been trying a while02:12
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Dr_Willismadjoe:  its not as themeable as in the old ubuntu. Thers somne tools to do minor tweaking and changes.. but not a lot.02:12
blakkheimpackrat_mobile: ati is the enemy of your freedom02:12
richard123enkidu: I restarted but it did not help. This may seem stupid but I did something in a terminal earlier before the problem started todo with 'tty2' - is that a hint?02:13
packrat_mobile /msg blakkheim care to explain that one? i like AMD...02:13
Dr_Willisjman888:  many of those services/tools only support windows and have such DRM featues that they cant work in linux/wine/virtualbox02:13
richard123enkidu;[I was trying to get help with a nvidia graphics card]02:13
ryan___packrat_mobile: They don't give out their drivers as open source =P02:13
packrat_mobileooo02:13
Dr_Willis its only recently that ATI and AMD merged.. :)02:14
packrat_mobileand nvidia does?02:14
packrat_mobilevery true doc.02:14
racarteris pidgin now empathy?02:14
jman888Dr_Willis, Yeah i figure that, oh well guess i will just have to periodically boot to windows02:14
madjoeDr_Willis:  I'm going nuts... I'm new with Ubuntu.. I just started 2 days ago... I use Compiz + Emerarld engine, but I don't have a clue how to install a GTK based screensaver... is it possible with a setup like mine?02:14
blakkheimracarter: they are two different projects entirely02:14
Dr_WillisNvidia has had better linux support from what ive seen over the last few years.02:14
Dr_WillisATI/AMd makes promises.. then they dont seem to follow through02:14
andrewai dont like my ati x1250 card.02:14
enkidurichard123: try 'modprobe nvidia' ?02:14
Pattrickso guys, any clue as to why my screen resolution cannot be selected?02:15
Dr_Willismadjoe:  i wouldent worry about a screensaver.. and emerald is basicallyt a dead project...02:15
racarterblakkheim, why did ubuntu switch to empathy?02:15
archboxmanDr_Willis: ATI is catching up...02:15
Dr_Willismadjoe:  theres the xscreensver packages if you want more screensavers02:15
soreaumadjoe: I don't think there is such thing as a 'gtk based' screensaver. You probably just want to install something like xscreensaver02:15
blakkheimracarter: dunno02:15
Dr_Willisarchboxman:  i hear that claim every so often.. but im not buying ati any time in the foreseeable futre02:15
richard123enkidu: FATAL: Module nvidia not found02:15
racarterto be honest, empathy doesn't seem much different than pidgin02:15
blakkheimracarter: bad choice imo, but i don't use ubuntu so it doesn't affect me02:16
Pattrickhey, fixed it, I think02:16
packrat_mobileso why would something like gears work...but not gl matrix...even the compiz stuff is working much better now.02:16
andrewaso, ya, i recently switched from vista, to ubuntu, and am kinda confused on some things02:16
madjoeDr_Willis: I just found one that is cool, made all steps to install it, but it won't show up... instead Ubuntu shows the default one... even if I change "default" to "nsa"02:16
adami have installed the HPLip how do i get itto install the printer02:16
racartersorry to repeat but, did ubuntu do something different with fonts in 9.10?02:16
racarterit looks much improved to me, but I'm not sure if it is something I did or if I'm just crazy02:16
soreaupackrat_mobile: gl matrix?02:16
skrapsanyone had problems with apache not running php scripts but spitting them out for download?02:16
enkidurichard123: ok, so automagic installer didn helped02:16
Dr_Willismadjoe:  its possible its a 'xscreensaver' screensaver not a gnome screensaver.. Theres been fighting over the last few years over how to 'properly' do screensavers02:17
packrat_mobilesoreau: the screensaver GLMatrix.02:17
enkidu!nvidia02:17
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:17
richard123enkidu: sorry - please explain?02:17
racarteris ubuntu using truetype fonts by default now?02:17
soreaupackrat_mobile: What is not working about it?02:17
madjoesoreau + Dr_Willis: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/NSA++GNOME+Lock+Screen?content=8901402:17
archboxmanDr_Willis: Hey well everyone has there opnion, gamers fight about which is better for games ati and nvidia and it really boils down to who supports the card or what game writes it for that card02:17
Dr_Willisracarter:  yes. should be enabled.02:17
Nitsugaracarter, always used OpenType02:17
madjoeDr_Willis: I've made all steps described.. no luck.02:17
Pattrickokay, kinda fixed it02:17
Nitsuga(which is way better than TrueType)02:17
racarterwell, whatever is going on I think the fonts looks great in 9.1002:18
Pattricknow, theres no easy way for me to bring my 45g music collection to ubuntu from Vista, is there?02:18
racarterwish I knew what exactly changed...02:18
packrat_mobileSoreau: it engages but nothing shows up on the screen.02:18
AugHi all02:18
Nitsugaracarter, maybe they changed the default antialias settings02:18
soreaumadjoe: It even gives you instruction on how to install that..02:18
jimi_Question, why does gdialog --title 'I love' --msgbox "Anthony & Joseph" 5 20 output "all updates complete" but if I remove the & and type 'and' it works ?02:18
Nitsugathere are in the appareance properties02:18
packrat_mobilesoreau: i checked the bug reports but thats not what is happening with mine.02:18
soreaupackrat_mobile: That's strange..02:18
madjoesoreau: I know.. I did all the steps with no luck02:18
madjoesoreau: I did all the steps with no "human" errors02:19
Dr_Willismadjoe:  could be its out of date with changes in the screensaver.. it seems to be a THEME for a screensaver..02:19
richard123enkidu: I have an instruction to run nvidia-xconfig as root - what should I do?02:19
blakkheimjimi_: you might want to learn some bash basics02:19
Nitsugajimi_, bash is substituting the ampersand. Just use '' instead of ""02:19
packrat_mobilesoreau: quite. and i started over and worked through that little tutorial thing. and got to where i am now, after trying several different approaches.02:19
enkidurichard123: it will change nothing02:19
jimi_Nitsuga, what is it substituting the text from?02:19
adamthanks02:19
richard123enkidu: what do you suggest please?02:20
enkidurichard123: ls /usr/src/linux-`uname -r`02:20
jimi_Nitsuga, changing to single quotes didn't make a difference02:20
madjoeDr_Willis: ok, since I've downloaded two screensavers, can you suggest some other page to change my ubuntu installation except that page?02:20
Nitsugajimi_, the & is for backgrounding processes02:20
soreaumadjoe: I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work, thoguh I haven't tried it02:20
Dr_Willismadjoe:  change what aspect?02:20
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soreaupackrat_mobile: Which driver do you use?02:20
Nitsugajimi_, try using zenity instead of gdialog02:20
richard123enkidu: ls: cannot access /usr/src/linux-2.6.31-16-server: No such file or directory02:20
madjoeDr_Willis: layout.. theme, icons, login screen etc.02:20
packrat_mobilesoreau: "radeon"02:20
packrat_mobilesoreau: the open source variety.02:21
Dr_Willismadjoe:  thers 10000's of themes out there and theme parts.  and tools to allow easy downloading of them  gnome-art, gnome-artng and others.02:21
racarterI am IM'ing myself side by side in empathy and pidgin and I cannot figure out what the difference is...02:21
madjoesoreau: can you try it if you have ubuntu 9.10, please?02:21
enkidurichard123: apt-get install linux-headers02:21
Dr_Willismadjoe:  login screen -> play with the files in xsplash  if you want or check out the gdm2 config tools that exist. (not many iof them)02:21
Pattrickokay guys02:21
racarterwhat is this growl-like thing happening in ubuntu?02:21
madjoeDr_Willis: so there's nothing wrong with that link.. you can recommend it?02:21
PattrickI kinda like this02:21
racarteri like it02:21
Pattrickbut02:21
KiRiLoSI gave a static ip to my system by changing /etc/network/interfaces.Everything works great but knetworkmanager shows that i'm not connected and connection name changed02:21
racarteris it growl by any chance?02:22
Pattrickhow can I get my stuff from Vista over here to Ubuntu?02:22
PattrickI've got 45gigs of music02:22
soreaupackrat_mobile: I use the same one and it worksforme here on my gentoo installation..02:22
trismracarter: it is notify-osd02:22
enkiduKiRiLoS: knetworkmanager is buggy02:22
archboxmanPattrick: burn to dvd or use external means to transfer02:22
Dr_Willismadjoe:  what link? that screensaver theme link? its just  gnome-look.org - I rarely use the site. I use tools that GET files from the site or from the gnomeart sites02:22
enkidubrb, need to check sth02:22
KiRiLoSenkidu, you think that's the case?02:22
racarterlooking like empathy is the only thing that works with this notify-osd02:22
racarterlooks like i'll be using empathy02:22
madjoeDr_Willis: gnome-look.org02:22
richard123enkidu: it returned a list, OK, next step?02:22
NitsugaPattrick, you can acces to it directly02:23
soreaumadjoe: I can't try it right now, but maybe later02:23
racartertrism: do you know how to configure notify-osd? it opens at the top of my screen which i don't want02:23
trismracarter: pidgin works too, as to many other apps02:23
archboxmanPattrick: same computer or differnet computer???02:23
madjoesoreau: thanx02:23
Dr_Willismadjoe:  its just a collection  of stuff people submit. Thers dozens of theme ppa repos and themes in the default package listings you can also use02:23
skrapswhen i try to run my php script by browsing to the apacheserver it only lets me download instead of view the file in the browser02:23
racarteroh dear, then maybe back to pidgin for me?02:23
enkidurichard123: sorry, I misstyped02:23
hiexpohelllo all02:23
Pattrickarchboxman02:23
trismracarter: it is not configurable unfortunately, without editing the source02:23
Pattricksame computer02:23
enkidurichard123: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`02:23
racartertrism: that is unfortunate02:23
Pattrickand I hate to be a bother02:23
trismracarter: hopefully they will add configuration options in the future02:23
Pattrickbut I can't notice when someone is talkign to me02:23
Pattricksince I'm not on mIRC02:23
racartertrism: hopefully =)02:23
Pattrickso could you PM me if you're wanting to halp?02:24
PattrickI'm trying not to kill myself elsewhere in Ubuntu02:24
enkidubrb, I have to check sth02:24
tzangerhmm02:24
archboxmanPattrick: Places> computer find the drive and use root login to enter drive...02:24
Pattrickarchboxman02:24
Pattricknow in English?02:24
madjoeDr_Willis: what would you suggest as a replacement to emerald? GTK?02:24
tzangerI'd like to add the dontzap parameter to xorg.conf, but 9.10 doesn't have an xorg.conf... how does one go about doing this?02:24
Dr_Willismadjoe:  i just use compiz and the gnome window decorations02:25
richard123enkidu: if user name is taraduffy: is correct line: apt-get install linux-headers-taraduffy-r  ?02:25
NitsugaPattrick, go to places, click computer, find your Vista partitoin, double click it and type your passwd02:25
archboxmanPattrick: It is a partition that is already on the computer just have to access it02:25
Nitsuga*partition02:25
hiexpoi think thgat was pretty clearly spoken in english02:25
PattrickMy vista partition02:25
Dr_Willismadjoe:  thers only 3 decorators one could use.. and emerald is dieing off.. so that leaves KDE's and the Gnome/gtks decorators02:25
archboxmanPattrick: yes your vista partition02:25
morphixemerald dieing off?02:25
Dr_Willis!emerald02:26
morphixas per what evidence?02:26
ubottuemerald is an obsolete window decorator for compiz. It's unsupported and unmaintained, making issues with it very hard to diagnose and fix. There are no known, supported alternatives.02:26
optimadHey guys, how can i mount my raid 0 harddrives in ubuntu live cd mode???02:26
PattrickI see 250 GB Hard Disk: Recovery / CD/DVD Drive / Generic Multi-Card / Palm Pre / Filesystem02:26
hiexpoarchboxman, - will you hold my hand  lol02:26
morphixits still used mostly where compiz is used.02:26
richard123enkidu: this started after i think I activated tty2 in a terminal02:26
madjoeDr_Willis: if I'd like to make my windows transparent (change the opacity), what should I do?02:26
archboxmanPattrick: my windows xp partition is in there I just don't use xp anymore...02:26
Dr_Willismadjoe:  compiz can do that02:26
Dr_Willislast i checked the Emerald theme repos were down..  i havent tried it lately. Gave up on emerald.02:27
PattrickThere is no icon in my Computer folder named Vista Partition, though02:27
Pattrickwould it be because I'm on wubi?02:27
Dr_Willismorphix:  im not sure that emerald can be used with anything OTHER then compiz. :)02:27
od3n_how do you delete stuff from a thumb drive02:27
NitsugaPattrick, ohh you are in wubi02:27
soreauDr_Willis: Hint: /msg FusioBot emerald-themes02:27
Pattrickis that why?02:27
hiexpoomg02:28
Dr_Willisod3n_:  i normally use the file manager, delete - then  empty trash02:28
Nitsugago to Filesystem -> host02:28
od3n_there is a trash folder that never seems to empty02:28
racarterwhat is the correct way to install flash on ubuntu?02:28
madjoeDr_Willis: too bad.. I just found one cool theme (crystal) with Emerald... I don't want to let it go that easily :) lol02:28
racarteri don't seem to have it by default02:28
rolsworthkdenlive crashes a lot02:28
Dr_Willisod3n_:  in theory its supposed to ask to empty the trash on unmount02:28
NitsugaPattrick, go to filesystem -> host02:28
funkycat90210crap i just did rm -rf ~/.gnote, how do i undo this?02:28
PattrickNitsuga <302:28
Nitsugafunkycat90210, you can't02:28
Dr_Willisracarter:  i install 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package and it pulls in flash and some fonts and other stuff02:28
Dr_Willis!flash | racarter02:28
ubotturacarter: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash02:28
funkycat90210Nitsuga, uhg02:28
hiexpoDr_Willis, it does02:28
od3n_yeah ist not doing that02:29
Dr_WillisThe 'clean trash on unmount' is a relatively new feature. :)02:29
Nitsugafunkycat90210, next time be careful with the -r flag02:29
Dr_Willisod3n_:  wht ubuntu version you using?02:29
od3n_91002:29
optimadHey guys, how can i mount my raid 0 harddrives in ubuntu live cd mode???02:29
racarteri can't wait till flash goes away02:29
Nitsugafunkycat90210, I avoid most of my misdelets adding in /etc/bashrc an alias to rm -I (add at the end alias rm=rm -I02:29
Nitsugathat way it will ask you befor deleting more than 3 files02:30
racarterif they figure out a format for HTML 5 videos hopefully flash is over...02:30
racartermaybe?02:30
NitsugaPattrick, in linux there is a magic think called symlinks02:30
Nitsugathey're like window's shortcuts02:30
richard123can anyone help me disable/stop tty2 - I think it is stopping my nvidia graphics card?02:30
Dr_Willisracarter:  i thinkright now its a matter of figureing out how to put ADs and other annoyances in html5 videos.. :)02:30
funkycat90210Nitsuga, still woulda happened, i thought i was on the right machine02:30
Nitsugaonly that, to any application, it is the destination folder02:31
Dr_Willisracarter:  youtube has limited html5 support now :) its in testing02:31
od3n_yeah is acting all weird02:31
Nitsugarichard123, sudo stop tty202:31
NitsugaPattrick, with symlinks you can link your Vista MUsic folder to the music folder in your Ubuntu's home02:31
madjoeDr_Willis: yes, Compiz has a feature to select certain (all) windows to make them transparent... cool!02:31
Dr_Willismadjoe:  and 10000+ other useless features as well02:32
NitsugaPattrick, and when you go to home -> music you'll se your music02:32
richard123nitsuuga: can you help me work out why the nvidia card since then does not work?02:32
madjoeDr_Willis: since I'm a brand new n00b at this, I'll just try them all! :)02:32
Nitsugarichard123, did you install the restricted driver?02:32
optimadHey guys, how can i mount my raid 0 harddrives in ubuntu live cd mode???02:33
richard123nitsuga: I am not a techie - please explain?02:33
richard123Nitsuga: I did install something.02:33
Nitsugarichard123, go to System -> administration -> hardware drivers02:34
madjoeDr_Willis: hypothetically - if I don't have issues with my setup: Compiz + Emerald, would you advise me to get rid of Emerald anyway?02:34
richard123Nitsuga: I follow, will report in a minute. . .thanks02:35
Nitsugarichard123, is "nvidia" in that list?02:35
git__hi02:35
Nitsugaif it is, just choose the lastest version (I think that 186) and activate it02:35
richard123nitsuga: yes, but not activated: I am downloading: it somehow must have got uninstalled!02:35
Nitsugarichard123, it's not activated by default02:36
git__while building a .deb package using command: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot02:36
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git__how do I recover from a half finish compilation?02:36
richard123Nitsuga: I had previously activated it, but then I installed something - I think tty2 - and then the problem started.02:36
flaco_hi all..... my cron jobs are not running... my username is in /etc/cron.allow.... I'm missing something?02:36
Dr_Willismadjoe:  if it works.. use what you want. i wouldent spend to much time learning emerald or fighting it. Im not even sure if its in the next release or not02:39
Dr_Willismadjoe:  i perfer the gnome-gtk/metacity window decorations so i dont use emerald - i rarely use compiz02:40
madjoeDr_Willis: good point... but what's there to learn?02:40
Dr_Willismadjoe:  make your own emerald themes if you want. Ther used to be a feature in emerald where it had a repo of dozens of themes.. but its gone. Now you have to look/make your own02:40
Dr_WillisEmerald is still in the next release. :) it seems.02:40
madjoeDr_Willis: yaaay! :) hehe02:41
hiexpoDr_Willis, do you like emerald over compiz?02:41
madjoeDr_Willis: ok, but other than making my own theme.. there shouldn't be anything else that should force me to uninstall emerald.. the main reason is I won't be able to use it in Ubuntu 9.30, let's say... :) isn't it?02:42
olabazhey, I made a hello world program in cpp and I have the compiled file, how do I run it from the terminal?02:43
Nitsugamadoje, The year donesn't have 30 months :P02:43
hiexpolol02:44
Dr_Willishiexpo:  emerald works WITH compiz. its not one or the other.02:44
madjoeNitsuga: it does on MY planet! :)02:44
madjoelol02:44
Nitsugaolabaz, make it executable (chmod +x file) and run it with ./file02:44
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Nitsugalol02:44
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hiexpoya thats what i thought i used to be just emerald02:44
Dr_Willismadjoe:  its possible ther may be other issues or discovered security flaws with emerald.. but if you want it - use it02:44
Ken222hey guys.. I'm having an issue with installing Ubuntu on my macbook .. the disc freezes and just stops running/spinning as soon as I press an option02:45
madjoeDr_Willis: thanks.. I got it...02:45
olabazNitsuga, ah ok, thanks alot02:45
iceD[R]Good night for all!02:45
Dr_WillisCompiz can use one of 3 differnt 'window decorators' (last i checked)   = Emerald, the gtk one, or the kde one.02:45
hiexpoyep02:45
iceD[R]I have a poblem, my clock not show this weather! Tell me what is wrong?02:46
NitsugaDr_Willis, or better use no window decorator. Anyway who wants a useless "close" button?02:46
Dr_WillisNitsuga:  ben there.. did that.02:46
hiexposame here02:46
primxcan u guyz please help me out02:47
NitsugaiceD[R], configure it for youir region. Right click -> preferences02:47
primxNitsuga, http://paste.ubuntu.com/381316/02:47
hiexpoprimx, just ask your question02:47
primxhiexpo,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/381316/02:47
taraduffy_Nitsuga: thanks, that resolved the graphics problem: can you help me with sound?02:47
Ken222Mm, it might be a difficult question to answer. I know Ubuntu on macbooks is a minority02:47
Dr_Willisprimx:  at least summarize the problem - if you expect anyont to go to a pastebin site to read the actual problem02:48
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primxI'm basically trying to mount my harddrives in Ubuntu02:48
Nitsugataraduffy_, well ok02:48
primxtheir on a Raid 0 setup, I dont now if its soft raid or hard, etc.. Just trying to mount them in Ubuntu02:48
ssmyprimx: mkdir dir, sudo mount /dev/sda1 dir for each02:48
maverick_can someone help me with this, http://paste.ubuntu.com/381317/ .. this happened after fsck, is it curable or do i have to reinstall?02:48
Nitsugataraduffy_, what's your problem02:49
* Dr_Willis has no idea on raid. so cant help02:49
taraduffy_nitsuga: thanks, do you really have time?02:49
Dr_Willis!raid02:49
ssmyprimx: i'm not sure abotu raid though02:49
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto02:49
Nitsugataraduffy_, of coure I have02:49
Nitsuga*course02:49
Nitsugajust I don't remembre you02:49
primxssmy,  mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab02:49
taraduffy_Nitsuga: in sound prefs. there is no input device found (to start with).02:49
Nitsugai've helped with 3 graphics problem this day02:49
Nitsugataraduffy_, and wich sound card do you have?02:50
Roastedhow do I cahnge the login screen on 9.10?02:50
taraduffy_nitsuga: Codec: IDT 92HD75B3X502:50
taraduffy_Codec: LSI ID 104002:50
mrb427what is #error used for?02:50
ssmyprimx: you can't just go to places -> whatever drive?02:50
chetnickis there a tool that i can use to scan documents with my printer?02:51
Nitsugataraduffy_, that's a sound card O_o02:51
ssmychetnick: ? you mean use a printer as a scanner? you can't do that.02:51
maverick_can someone help me with this, http://paste.ubuntu.com/381317/ .. this happened after fsck, is it curable or do i have to reinstall?02:51
pharnohm02:51
chetnickssmy: sorry, yeah thats what i meant, its a printer/scanner02:51
hiexporemember everyone google is your best friend and many of the questions asked are out on the web in which will save time with the people helping02:51
pharnoI want to put a txt file as my background02:51
Nitsugaomg it is!02:51
pharnoany Idea?02:51
primxthose !raid links only teahc u how to install ubuntu on raid 002:51
primxdoes not tell how to mount raid 002:52
maverick_chetnick: xsane02:52
Nitsugataraduffy_, i've never heard of that02:52
Nitsugalet's see what can we do02:52
bigtom21485anyone tried to run virtalgirlhd on wine?02:52
taraduffy_Nitsuga: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]02:52
bigtom21485it starts to install then just sits there...02:52
chetnickmaverick_: oh, yeah thats right. Thanks.02:52
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ssmybigtom21485: maybe #wine or somewhere else could help more.02:53
Nitsugataraduffy_, ohh that's much better02:53
jesse2Hello.  I just re-installed ubuntu 9.10.  When I booted into the system, I chose to install the Nvidia driver.  The nvidia driver worked fine on this computer in a previous installation, but now when i reboot it gives me an error message and has me run in "low graphics" mode02:53
jesse2is there a way i can re run the nvidia driver installation?02:54
taraduffy_Nitsuga: in Volume Prefs. No input device is listed?02:54
ssmyjesse2: are you in a gui? it's system > administration -> Hardware drivers02:54
maverick_can someone help me with this, http://paste.ubuntu.com/381317/ .. this happened after fsck, is it curable or do i have to reinstall?02:54
jesse2ssmy: sure am... ill give it a try02:54
Nitsugataraduffy_, can you run alsamixer=02:55
Nitsuga?02:55
Ken222ey everyone, I was wondering if anyone knew of a fix for the disc just stopping when I click on an option in the Ubuntu install menu. I'm on a macbook pro.02:55
taraduffy_Nitsugu: in a terminal: what is the full command please?02:55
PattrickWould anyone be able to assist me with the installation of XChat? I've been informed mIRC doesn't work on Linux02:55
lpearsonhello... can any one help me to get updates when my fire wall is blocking  synaptic??02:55
taraduffy_Nitsuga: or in synaptic?02:55
Nitsugataraduffy_, the command is alsamixer02:55
packrat_mobileok i iz back02:55
taraduffy_Nitsuga: done.02:56
Nitsugataraduffy_, check that you don't have anything muted02:56
bjkinghi02:56
Nitsugaand put everything in max volume02:56
rootso, I am back02:56
bjkingI'm going to upload a pic and share my problem02:57
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maverick_Pattrick: sudo apt-get install xchat...02:57
enkiduwho was so stupid to use upstart for ubuntu - I dont know02:57
taraduffy_Nitsuga: everthying is on max.02:57
enkiduit SUCKS02:57
Roastedhow do I cahnge the login screen on 9.10?02:57
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Pattrickmaverick_ I'm less than 1 hour into Ubuntu02:57
enkidu!upstart02:57
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/02:57
Pattrickyou just spoke german, for all I know02:57
bjkinghttp://i.imgur.com/L78XS.png how do I adjust the chat text box size on the bottom of this screenshot?02:58
arandmaverick_: I'm not sure, but I would make a speedy backup at this point...02:58
enkiduhow to get rid of upstart and use good-old-init ?02:58
Nitsugataraduffy_, what's the otput of aplay -l02:58
maverick_Pattrick: ok, go to the applications menu and select ubuntu software center..find xchat in there and install it02:58
Ken222mmm..02:58
trismenkidu: install a different distro02:58
Pattrickthanks Mav02:58
Ken222anyone here using Ubuntu on a macbook?02:58
maverick_arand: yes, my hard disk is dying..02:59
blakkheim!anyone | Ken22202:59
ubottuKen222: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?02:59
madjoeRoasted: try with this link http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/DoD+-+Cyber+Crimes+Division+Login+Screen?content=8029802:59
enkidutrism: thanks. show me distro, that properly install from USB key02:59
maverick_arand: im too lazy to get it replaced hehe..02:59
Ken222I was wondering if anyone knew of a fix for the disc just stopping when I click on an option in the Ubuntu install menu. I'm trying to install on a macbook.02:59
taraduffy_Nitsuga: card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]02:59
taraduffy_  Subdevices: 1/102:59
taraduffy_  Subdevice #0: subdevice #002:59
taraduffy_card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: STAC92xx Digital [STAC92xx Digital]02:59
taraduffy_  Subdevices: 1/102:59
taraduffy_  Subdevice #0: subdevice #002:59
FloodBot2taraduffy_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.02:59
enkidutrism: better say, why that "better alternative" is not starting udev and is locking on networkmanager?03:00
ssmyKen222: i would guess bad burn. try a different disk. no promises though03:00
Ken222mmm.03:00
Ken222Maybe I should try the Ubuntu 8.4 LTS and just upgrade from there?03:01
taraduffy_sorry!03:01
Ken222I was thinking that might've been the problem too, but.03:01
DarkBen8.0403:01
trismenkidu: I have no idea03:01
ssmyKen222: no, just re-burn the disk.03:01
Ken222alright.03:01
ssmyKen222: burn as slow as possible to ensure it's good.03:01
qiyonghow is the app for CD record?03:02
maverick_Pattrick: ok..go the applications menu and find terminal in there03:02
daroluKen222: IDK if you have tried, but check the md5sum of your .iso03:02
qiyongas in this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntu_1.jpg03:02
enkidutrism: so dont I. It just stopped working after kernel upgrade. and none of config option changed, moreover - previous kernel dont work too03:02
Nitsugataraduffy_, it seems that everything is OK, maybe it's a loading order issue03:02
qiyongwhat is the app for CD record?03:02
enkidubrb ill try removing as many services, as possible03:02
Roastedmadjoe, while that link is nice, I dont see where it explains how I change the login screen.03:03
Nitsugatry opening /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf as root (alt-f2 -> gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf )03:03
MK13how can i configure CUPS to share a printer to the network from the command line? the community howto's only deal w/ the GUI approach03:03
packrat_mobilegah i've searched through almost any post on the ubuntu forums about this ati noize...i cant figure out what else to do.03:03
maverick_Pattrick: or refer this link --> http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2009/11/installing-software-from-ubuntu.html03:03
ssmyqiyong: Applications > Sound/video > Brasero03:03
taraduffy_Nitsuga: why cant I see a device listed under input device in Volume Prefs?03:03
madjoeRoasted: check the README if any... I just wanted to give you the main link so you could browse by yourself03:03
qiyongssmit, what is the app for CD record? as in this image:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntu_1.jpg03:03
ssmyqiyong: that opens brasero. or, right-click the ISO and select write to disk.03:04
qiyongsshc, is k3b ok?03:04
Nitsugataraduffy_, try opening /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf as root (alt-f2 -> gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf ) add at the end the line options snd-pcsp index=-2"03:04
madjoeRoasted: I'm just reading this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy03:04
Nitsuga"options snd-pcsp index=-2""03:04
packrat_mobileis there any way to test the GL subsystem at a higher level then glxgears?03:04
qiyongsshc, what file manage to use?03:05
ssmyqiyong: are you running ubuntu? or kubuntu?03:05
Nitsugataraduffy_, without the quotes03:05
qiyongssmit, the desktop is now lxde03:05
Nitsugataraduffy_: options snd-pcsp index=-203:05
Ken222Thanks ssmy for the help, much appreciated.]03:06
qiyongssmit now i have k3b installed in the menu03:06
gdizhey everyone, I am looking at for all intensive purposes, creating an ubuntu server to run over the internet.  Right now, and if this is wrong, forgive my ignorance, but it is hiding a little bit from the internet due to my router.  I have it open to vnc, smb, CUPS, ssh, there's a daap share, and MPD is on there.  Is there anything I should do or should watch out for in order to make sure my computer is secure?03:06
ssmitqiyong, tag ssmy03:06
qiyongssmy,  the desktop is now lxde.  now i have k3b installed in the menu03:06
ssmyqiyong: k3b should have an option to burn an iso somewhere03:06
qiyongssmy, is it = to use k3b?03:06
taraduffy_Nitsuga: I ran that and found that line, now what?03:06
ssmyqiyong: try Tools > write ISO image03:07
Nitsugataraduffy_, the line was already there?03:07
qiyongssmy, what file manager to use to right-click ?03:07
ssmyqiyong: yeah, it's just a different program, same action.03:07
ssmyqiyong: i know Nautlius (default in gnome) can03:07
ryan___Does anyone know of a good media player thing like Rythmbox that supports videos and your ipod can connect to?03:07
packrat_mobileis there a log file attched to 3d stuff at all guys?03:07
qiyongssmit, don't tell me tools > menu item, tell my the app name so i can launch in console03:08
flaco_ryan___,  I think banshee?03:08
qiyongssmy, , don't tell me tools > menu item, tell my the app name so i can launch in console03:08
ryan___flaco_: Banshee doesn't see my ipod =(03:08
ssmyqiyong: i meant inside k3b03:08
ssmyqiyong: you would probably be better off with someone who has used k3b.03:09
qiyongssmy, so there's two apps, brasero and k3b, they both use wodim underline?03:09
taraduffy_Nitsuga: I pasted to a dialogue window with you.03:09
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flaco_ryan___, weird... banshee does see my ipod03:09
packrat_mobileseriously...no 3d gurus in here?03:10
Nitsugataraduffy_, i see03:10
ryan___flaco_: Could it have anything to do with my ipod being an older 5th gen?03:10
ryan___flaco_: Although Rythmbox sees it fine, but rythmbox won't do videos >.<03:10
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ssmyqiyong: they are just different cd apps. i don't know much about anything except brasero.03:10
packrat_mobilei feel like its 2000 and im trying to get my viper2 to play nice with windows me here...03:10
Nitsugataraduffy_, I've never had no issues with sound in Ubuntu, so I'm sorry that I'm out of ideas. You'll have to ask someone else :(03:11
flaco_ryan___, check this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76659703:11
orochiEarlier I somehow made the keyring program remember the password to mount my drive by changing the settings in users and groups, but I reinstalled everything and set it up just the way it was, but it wont work anymore.03:11
Nitsuga*I've never had issues03:11
taraduffy_Nitsuga: I appreciate your help!03:11
orochican someone tell me how to get it to remember the password?03:12
Nitsugataraduffy_, if you don't get help on this channel or searching in google you can ask in https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver03:13
johnnynyquist#xorg03:13
taraduffy_Nitsuga: thank you.03:13
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ArQiLLiOnShow do i batch scale my pictures on ubuntu?03:14
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ssmyArQiLLiOnS: I like phatch for batching.03:15
jribArQiLLiOnS: use imagemagick's convert (makes copy) or mogrify (changes original)03:15
taraduffy_Nitsuga: I did, thanks again.03:15
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Nitsugataraduffy_, good luck solving your sound issue ;)03:16
ArQiLLiOnSi will try phatch, thanx guys!!03:16
taraduffy_Nitsuga: see you next time :-)03:16
kelopezhello03:17
daroluHello kelopez, what can we do for you?03:17
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kelopezhow do I remove a "crash-when-configuring" package?03:18
kelopez"unifiedkernel-0.2.4.1-kernel"03:19
kelopezthat's the crashing package03:19
kelopezso03:19
zesozemsg NickServ identify zesoze kurt12303:19
kelopezhow do I delete that?03:19
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kelopezoh oh, zesoze03:20
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* kelopez will ignore that03:20
kinja-sheepArQiLLiOnS: Look up on imagemagick -- There are bunch of commands that you could use.03:20
eremiteI just installed Freedoom from the repos and it closes after about 10 seconds of launching the game.  http://www.pastebin.com/m7d9d2d28   --- here is the console output.03:20
eremiteHelp???03:20
FloodBot2eremite: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.03:20
eremiteI didnt flood.  WTF?03:21
eremiteStupid bot,.03:21
ellmoe2000lol03:21
kelopezno answer?03:21
ellmoe2000I enjoyed using Ubuntu for the first time this weekend, the only kicker is that I can't find a driver for my network printer.03:22
^vivitarzeso: Not a very strong password I'm afraid...03:22
eremite"Linux, it just woks." <-- LOL03:22
eremiteAnyway, anyone got a fix for Freedomm crashing?03:22
hamneggaellmoe2000 - Is it a DELL printer03:23
kelopez:(03:23
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ellmoe2000nope.03:23
ellmoe2000sorry03:23
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ellmoe2000lexmark03:23
eremiteThis is my terminal output for Freedoom crashing.  If you know a fix, hook me up.  http://www.pastebin.com/m7d9d2d2803:23
kelopezok03:23
Antisocheellmoe2000, Congratulations on your new purchase of a doorstop03:23
ellmoe2000lol03:23
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hamneggaWell most DELL are lexmarks, so that's what I was going to tell you, to see if it's an OEM brand and then check the actual manufacturer drivers availabel for linux03:24
Nitsugaouch! lexmark03:24
ellmoe2000you are not kidding03:24
kelopezno answer to my reply? XD03:24
ellmoe2000at least i didn't purchase it, it was given to me.03:24
Nitsugakelopez, I don't even know what is the signal 8 for03:24
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Antisocheellmoe2000, Got one myself, some time ago.  Still as good as the day I got it.03:24
hamneggaellmoe2000 - try unplugging it and then replugging it back in - Usually that starts up a driver search, with a pretty big list of lexmark drivers available already03:24
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eremiteDoes anyone know of any FPS for Linux that are not from the 1990s?03:24
kelopezNitsuga: "Failed to process /etc/kernel/postinst.d at /var/lib/dpkg/info/unifiedkernel-0.2.4.1-kernel.postinst line 1191."03:24
ellmoe2000I did that03:25
kelopezand when I install a new package it still tries to configure03:25
Nitsugakelopez, ohh i though that your where the freedoom guy03:25
kelopezlol Nitsuga ;)03:25
ellmoe2000it regonizes as the type of printer it is, but no driver03:25
hamneggaeremite - Is Nexuiz from the 90's03:25
Nitsugakelopez, did you try to unsinstall it?03:25
eremitehamnegga, juding by its gameplay and graphics it might aswell be03:26
ellmoe2000I was really looking forward to totally switching over03:26
kelopezwait a minute03:26
Antisochekelopez, sounds like you have a broken control script.  Those are no fun.03:26
hamneggaYeah, well there aren't many games for linux and I haven't seen anything better in terms of FPS03:26
kelopezoh03:27
kelopezOK03:27
* kelopez is uninstalling it03:27
Nitsugakelopez, btw, what is "unifiedkernel"?03:27
kelopezdidn't know of that XD03:27
^vivitareremite: Did you stuff your error into google? I found several things in the first few listings that are promising03:27
kelopezNitsuga: google for "Longene"03:27
Nitsugaok03:27
kelopezit tries to combine Windows and Linux kernels03:27
kelopeziirc03:27
Antisochekelopez, try this:  as root, edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/unifiedkernel-0.2.4.1-kernel.postinst and fix the error03:28
ellmoe2000I do have to give it to you, ubuntu has some kick a@@ software03:28
kelopezdon't worry03:28
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Antisochekelopez, then 'dpkg --configure -a'03:28
kelopezI'm uninstalling it03:28
kelopez(facepalm for me)03:28
transom324wuz hap'n03:28
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Nitsugakelopez, :O interesting03:28
kelopezheh03:28
Younderamnesia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEHPwAvrc_U03:28
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kelopeznow...03:29
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* kelopez will learn how to speak Python! :D03:29
^vivitarhaha I was thinking about that too03:29
Nitsugakelopez, it may be one of the best ideas you will ever have03:29
Nitsugawell, no THAT much, but a very good idea03:29
kelopezNitsuga: in learning python?03:29
kelopezok03:29
kelopezit's fixed now03:29
* kelopez will stay there :)03:30
Nitsugakelopez, yeah, it'll take you a couple of week and you will be able to program almost anything03:30
kelopezok03:30
* kelopez will use "Python para todos"03:30
kelopez(Spanish btw, I'm Chilean)03:31
magn3tswhat controls the mouse point icon?03:32
innatehi everyone03:32
innatedoes anyone know how to find the largest number at place $3 by using awk??03:32
blakkheiminnate: /j #awk03:32
innateok thanks03:32
magn3tsBecasue my cursor theme won't show up in the appearance dialog and X seems to surruptisiously forget which point pack I've chosen03:32
ellmoe2000that was totally kick a@@03:33
kelopezlol03:33
sirscottGetting a double suspend resume on my laptop.  Close the lid, it suspends.  Open & press a key to resume, but then it immediately resumes again.03:33
sirscottOnce it's resumed that second time, it'll continue working just fine.03:34
Nitsugakelopez, As I can read  in the website, "SMP support is unstable at this point of development"03:34
sirscottAnyone have experience with this double-suspend?03:34
kelopezoh03:34
kelopezXD03:34
Nitsugakelopez, so if you want LUK, buy a Celeron :P03:35
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kelopezI *do* have a Celeron03:35
kelopez:P03:35
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Nitsugalol03:35
kelopezand badly this mobo has a SiS video board03:35
Nitsugawell, I0ve to go03:35
metricpianoAnyone here running Lucid?  Spare a minute to try something?  Yes I know about #ubuntu+1... nobody is home XD03:35
majukHey guys, my regex-fu is weak, I need to match all items starting with a lower-case letter. I was trying grep \A[a-z], but that's not working. Little help?03:35
kelopezok03:35
Nitsuga*have03:36
kelopezgood bye Nitsuga03:36
kelopezthankyou03:36
majukgrep \A[a-z]* that is03:36
kelopezok03:36
transom324Help!!! can someone me install restricted programs03:36
xfacttransom324, What kind of restricted programs?03:37
kelopeztransom324: you mean "with copyright"?03:37
OChaosus.undernet.org03:37
kelopezlol03:37
kelopezspammer03:37
xfactMost of programs in Ubuntu written in Python right?03:37
kelopezmmm03:38
ellmoe2000is there a prog for ubuntu to download youtube?03:38
kelopezcan't be sure03:38
blakkheimxfact: no, they vary03:38
kelopezellmoe2000: yes03:38
kelopezellmoe2000: sudo apt-get install youtube-dl03:38
blakkheimellmoe2000: ^03:38
ellmoe2000thx03:38
kelopezuse at your own risk XD03:38
ellmoe2000lol03:38
ellmoe2000really03:38
bigtom21485does anyone know how to install a login screen theme in ubuntu?03:38
blakkheimthere's no risk03:38
xfactBTW youtube video downloading is illegal :P03:38
kelopez(copyright bs)03:38
kelopezhehehe03:38
majukNobody? I have a 4 page paper to write next otherwise I would just play with it until I figured it out but I'm running short on time.03:39
kelopezoh03:39
ellmoe2000whatever, lol03:39
blakkheim!please | majuk03:39
ubottumajuk: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude03:39
kelopezryan___: you're connected thru IPv6?03:39
ryan___kelopez: Uh... no03:39
kelopezryan___: your IP looks like a v6 one03:40
kelopez"2002:4588:3e76:12...03:40
xfactbigtom21485, First you can download 'Login screen manager' from Ubuntu Tweak if you are on Karmic.03:40
leohartxhello everyone, i've just changed my graphic card, and it's not working now, what should i do ?03:40
kelopezleohartx: what one?03:40
ryan___kelopez: If I am, comcast has just recently changed something and it kept working without me changing anything =P03:40
kelopeznVIDIA chip?03:40
bigtom21485xfact im on 9.1003:40
kelopezryan___: oh03:41
majukblakkheim! Time is a factor. Relax.03:41
xfactbigtom21485, Then go and get the login screen manager from Ubuntu tweak, I think you have Ubuntu tweak03:41
leohartxkelopez: ATI HD3650 to intel G31, my ATI is broken down03:41
racarterI installed kubuntu-desktop package and now it looks like my pointer is sometimes the KDE pointer even when I'm using gnome. how do i fix that?03:41
racarteralso when I restart I get the kubuntu logo03:41
kelopezok03:41
xfactIf you prefer Command line instructions, then I don't know :O03:41
leohartxkelopez: i'm now using low graphic mode, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didnt work03:42
kelopezhmm03:42
bigtom21485xfact: where is ubuntu tweak?03:42
leohartxhello everyone, i've just changed my graphic card, and it's not working now, what should i do ?03:42
transom324Yes! need help with libs to play  righted DVDs03:42
scunizileohartx: what kind of card?03:43
xfactbigtom21485, Ok, go to ubuntu-tweak.com and get it03:43
xfactIt is awesome!03:43
leohartxscunizi: intel G31 integrated card03:44
xfactBut be careful about extra PPAs03:44
scunizileohartx: in a terminal type "xrandr" and see if the resolution you need is listed03:44
pvcah.. took me just a little bit of google-fu.. but I fixed this weird bug where it says "no such device" after installation of 9.1003:44
pvchuzzah!03:44
pvcubuntu users totally have eachother's backs.03:44
leohartxscunizi : it's listed03:45
* xfact is currently trying to learn python!03:45
leohartxscunizi : but i'm now using low graphic mode03:45
pvcI think.03:45
scunizileohartx: check out xrandr and see how to use it to change the graphics.. I'll have ubottu give you a link that might help. after that it's google03:45
scunizi!resolution > leohartx03:45
ubottuleohartx, please see my private message03:45
desert-pingusq03:46
Bombysal vrun roman03:46
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leohartxscunizi : ty, i'll try these methods03:48
maxxistI need a quick hand.  is there a terminal command I can use to redetect a network card under ubuntu server?  I just moved a VM under virtualbox from one machine to another.  the settings are the same for the network device under virtualbox.  but the ubuntu server vm wont detect the device.03:50
cruncheri'm on an eee pc 1000he using a wlan connection and I'm finding download speeds to be very slow and inconsistent. I have a feeling that its caused by inadequate drivers but im not sure. does anyone have any insight?03:50
blakkheimcruncher: try madwifi instead of ath5k/ath9k03:51
scunizimaxxist: what's the host system.. in the ubuntu server vm you could try ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0 .. if eth0 is the name of the card in the vm.03:51
scunizimaxxist: also sudo service networking restart03:52
estebanfinch03:52
racartergah! I can't change my pointer03:52
maxxistscunizi, i have tried a /etc/init.d/network restart    it gives me a no such device error.03:52
racarterin gnome I went into Appearances but the pointer stays the same...03:52
estebanq03:52
scunizimaxxist: yes.. that would have been on 8.10.. try that last command I gave you03:53
racartercan anyone help me with this strange problem?03:53
Bertohi - If I'm in display 0, how can i open a command to display 1?03:53
Bertoi'm looking for something like gnome-terminal --display=103:53
sslaccessrocksanyone know why atheros drivers are not supported in ubuntu server 9.04/9.10 but supported in ubuntu 9.04/9.10 or which package to install in ubuntu server 9.10 to get atheros working?03:53
ZykoticK9racarter, in order for the pointer change to take effect I have to disable Compiz and just use Metacity03:54
blakkheimsslaccessrocks: because most servers don't use wifi..03:54
* xfact !Gratitude: When you are having appropriate answer of your questions, then do not forget to thank the answerer :)03:54
maxxistscunizi, same error.    "SIOCSIFADDR:  No such device"03:54
sslaccessrocksblankkheim: which package do I install to get it working?03:54
scunizisslaccessrocks: wireless drivers are typically installed in server.. however I think if you install ubuntu-restricted-extras you'll have the atheros drivers..03:54
blakkheimsslaccessrocks: it's a kernel module, the server edition is tuned for server use, thats why they aren't there03:54
racarterZykoticK9... i will die without compiz03:54
racarterliterally I will drop dead03:55
blakkheimscunizi: URE has nothing to do with it03:55
racarterZykoticK9, do you mean disable it and then reenable it?03:55
maxxistscunizi, i have double checked the settings for the VM under virtualbox.  everything is identical under both systems.03:55
blakkheimsslaccessrocks: you will have to compile and manually load the module03:55
sslaccessrocksscunizi: the server does not have internet, can i download an ubuntu-alternate of the same version and use that in the sources.list to download a package --which package?03:55
ZykoticK9racarter, once i re-enable compiz - pointer change disappears03:55
blakkheimsslaccessrocks: it's not a package03:55
sslaccessrocksblakkheim: can i use an ubuntu-alternate to download the new kernel then?03:56
scuniziblakkheim: do the question remains .. what package to install for wireless on server.. despite that it isn't typically done.03:56
blakkheimscunizi: i just answered that03:56
blakkheimsslaccessrocks: you might as well just install the regular edition instead of server if you're going to replace the kernel03:56
sslaccessrocksblakkheim: can't do that, not enough min specs on hardware03:57
ZykoticK9racarter, don't see anything in ccsm about pointer theme?  sorry man, best of luck.03:57
blakkheimsslaccessrocks: the mini iso then?03:57
sslaccessrocksblakkheim: no internet if it doesn't have drivers?03:57
blakkheimsslaccessrocks: you can't wire it just for the installation?03:57
sslaccessrocksblakkheim: negative03:57
bugaloohi guys... does anybody know how can I configure the multimedia keys on sony vaio (ubuntu 9.10)?03:58
blakkheimsslaccessrocks: not much you can do then, sorry. i'd just get the source for the atheros driver and put it on a flash drive and put it on the other computer to compile it03:58
pvcskullface03:58
cruncherblakkheim: im unsure of how to go about installing mad wifi, do you know of any well written documentation?03:58
albechbugaloo, i gave up on that long ago.. seems like a pain03:58
sslaccessrocksblakkheim: can you link me?03:58
blakkheimcruncher: you download the tarball, compile it, load the modules03:59
xfactMy multimedia keys are working fine on Ubuntu 9.1003:59
bugalooalbech, :(   I have a HP Pavilion and it works fine03:59
blakkheimcruncher & sslaccessrocks: i don't have any doc links for it03:59
albechbugaloo, there is some vaio kernel module that should enable them, but sony isnt very informative about their hardware, so writing stuff for it seems to be a pain03:59
bugaloojust a few keys doesn't, but on vaio nothing works, not even sound volume03:59
bugalooalbech, i see03:59
scunizisslaccessrocks: I find that linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-16-server is what you need.. replace the module number with the current kernel or search apt-get, aptitude etc.. for it.. I found the info here.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=764025 .. check out packages.ubuntu.com from another machine to download03:59
racarterZykoticK9, I think it's because KDE changes the default pointer somehow03:59
User_hello, is there an antivirus that I can install in ubuntu to check files for virus?03:59
blakkheimUser_: clamav03:59
albechbugaloo, even light control doesnt work on mine :(03:59
ZykoticK9racarter, well I'm on Gnome and can't get it working either???04:00
User_how reliable is clamav?04:00
bugalooalbech, too bad hear this :(04:00
sslaccessrocksok, thanks scunizi, i will use the ubuntu alt cd in the sources.list to get that file04:00
racarterdid you ever install kubuntu-desktop?04:00
blakkheimUser_: that's a matter of opinion04:00
bugaloomy mute works fine, lol04:00
TouristAnyone used netbook remix yet?04:00
blakkheim!anyone | Tourist04:00
ubottuTourist: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?04:00
albechbugaloo, yet ubuntu is running fine and i can live without04:00
ZykoticK9racarter, is that to me?  I've never install kubuntu-desktop no.04:00
tallyhohow to join my favourites in irc?04:00
racarterZykoticK9, i'm probably mistaken, but I think I saw this problem start happening after I installed kubuntu-desktop04:00
maxxistAnyone know a way to redetect network devices from terminal?  google is not being my friend right now.04:00
albechbugaloo, have a look at this site: http://www.linux-laptop.net/sony.html04:00
racarterZykoticK9, ok. then maybe I am wrong.04:01
bugalooalbech, sure... but I'm trying to make everything works because is a new laptop :)04:01
scunizisslaccessrocks: looks like there is a meta package called linux-restricted-modules-server04:01
bugalooalbech, I tried this site, but there is no my model04:01
bugaloo:(04:01
TouristOk, then, for those who are or have used netbook remix is it worth the install?04:01
pvcskullface04:01
racarterin any case, does anyone know how to change what the default pointer is set to in gnome?04:01
ZykoticK9racarter, i do have the KDE libraries installed, but doubt it's a KDE issue -- think it's a compiz issue myself04:01
sslaccessrocksscunizi: things like that (linux-restricted-modules-server package) is why i use ubuntu :) thanks i'll give that a shot first04:01
bugaloothanks anyway04:02
scunizisslaccessrocks: as I remember that's how I solved it a couple years ago.04:02
dsnydersHi all!  [ctrl][alt][backspace] isn't restarting xserver anymore.  What gives?04:02
xfactbugaloo: can you just tell me the model number of Sony Vio you are having?04:02
d4n1hey, sup guys, how do u use gzip04:03
d4n1??04:03
blakkheim!dontzap | dsnyders04:03
ubottudsnyders: To re-enable the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace combination that restarts your X server see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap04:03
bugalooxfact, sure, it's a VGN-CS325J04:03
blakkheimd4n1: man gzip04:03
d4n1ive read the man, didn't help much04:03
blakkheimd4n1: it tells everything04:03
xfactbugaloo, Thanks, I wish I will get something helpful04:03
DarkBendsnyders: go to System Preferences Keyboard Distribution Distribution Options to enable it04:03
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macman_ got a brand new dell studio 17 inch .. i love it problem is my battery dies in about an hour ..all my power settings are fine .. wondering how i can fix this ?  ... one more thing .. i dualboot ubuntu and windows 7 .. when im in windows 7 i get 3 hours battery04:04
d4n1blakkheim: well, i did, it didn't help04:04
bugalooxfact, thanks04:04
macman_ got a brand new dell studio 17 inch .. i love it problem is my battery dies in about an hour ..all my power settings are fine .. wondering how i can fix this ?  ... one more thing .. i dualboot ubuntu and windows 7 .. when im in windows 7 i get 3 hours battery04:04
albechbugaloo, hang on a sec.. i am checking something with the kernel module04:04
blakkheim!repeat | macman_04:04
ubottumacman_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.04:04
ZykoticK9dsnyders, an easier way to get c-a-backspace is to: System / Preferences / Keyboard - click Layouts tab, click Options button near bottom - click + next to "Key sequence to kill the X server" - add check to "Control + Alt + Backspace04:04
macman_oh Snap04:05
mutex_Does ubuntu have a preferred way of producing clones of an existing system ?04:05
macman_sorry about that blakkheim04:05
TouristOk this has happened to me twice, halfway during the install of 9.10 on two different computers it gives me an IO error. I'm starting to get frustrated.. and it's not from using the same install cd or ISO.04:05
mutex_or a customized install tool even04:05
blakkheim!clone > mutex_04:05
ubottumutex_, please see my private message04:05
scuniziTourist: before hitting enter on the initial install screen hit F6 and turn off Acpi and try again..04:06
dsnydersDarkBen, ZykoticK9, I can't click on anything because my display is fouled up.  I need to restart x via keyboard.04:06
mutex_!automate04:06
ubottuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning04:06
racarterwhat am I supposed to use the $HOME/Templates directory for?04:06
albechbugaloo, is the sony_laptop module loaded? lsmod | grep "sony"04:06
mutex_!cloning04:06
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate04:06
racarterwhat kind of templates should I put there?04:06
racarterwhat templates are they talking about?04:06
Touristscunizi: Will try that. Thank you04:06
ZykoticK9dsnyders, then use alt+sysrq+k < the new way04:06
mutex_suppose I should have private messaged that, sorry04:06
bugalooalbech, let me check04:06
vr_mexhow can i excute a ruby script from the main menu app, i just cant figure out the command for it, my wxruby script is in /home/xyz/my_wxruby_script.rb, i have 755 permissions but it wont execute, please help04:07
blakkheimvr_mex: ruby /home/xyz/my_wxruby_script.rb04:07
ShizzoAnyone working for/worked for NCR?04:07
d4n1how can i decompress a zip file though the terminal?04:08
ZykoticK9d4n1, "unzip $file"04:08
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vr_mexblakkheim: no luck !!!04:08
dsnydersZykoticK9, alt+sysreq+k? Stand by...04:08
blakkheimvr_mex: does it work from a terminal?04:08
bugalooalbech, sorry my late04:09
bugaloothere is the sony_laptop module04:09
d4n1ok, but don't i have to install that04:09
albechbugaloo, ok04:09
vr_mexblakkheim: yes and if i do a double click from the ubuntu gnome desktop it launches fine, just the problem is from the command in the main menu app...04:09
ZykoticK9d4n1, just try typing "unzip" and it will tell you04:09
d4n1ZykoticK9, well my machine has it, my server doesn't04:10
blakkheimvr_mex: make a script that has that in it, put it in your $PATH (/usr/bin for example) then point the menu item to that script04:10
xfactbugaloo, Humm, your Laptop has many problem with Ubuntu! like here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37469, I think batter you write your problems like this in Ubuntuforums04:10
dsnydersZykoticK9, that key combo worked.  Thanks.  Why did they cange it from ctrl-alt-backspace?04:10
alfattahhow to change karmic login screen, any idea?04:10
ZykoticK9dsnyders, just to keep people on there toes -- i have no idea04:10
ZykoticK9alfattah, right now that's very difficult04:11
bugalooxfact, ok... it's not a big problem anyway, it's more like a fun thing to try04:11
vr_mexblakkheim: ok let me try that...04:11
vr_mexblakkheim: should i do a .sh script or a ruby script?04:11
xfactbugaloo, Have fun :P04:11
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blakkheimvr_mex: it will be a bash script, the file extension doesn't really matter, but use .sh if you want to be organized04:11
alfattahok then, thanks.04:12
vr_mexblakkheim: ok let me try that...04:12
albechbugaloo, maybe interesting reading: http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/vaiotricks.html04:12
d4n1ZykoticK9: thank u, now installing zip and unzip04:12
KavinorumI have an issue with a new acer aspire netbook and ubuntu 9.10. For some reason there is a bug with the wireless that will cause kernel freezes and other problems. I have a log of the problem, where do I submit it to?04:12
bugalooalbech, nice one :) thanks04:12
ZykoticK9d4n1, glad to help04:12
rwwubottu: bug | Kavinorum04:12
ubottuKavinorum: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots04:12
hamneggaAnyone have any tweaks or info. that might improve arp poisoning attempts in ettercap?04:12
d4n1ZykoticK9: thanks, i was trying to use gzip, does that even work for this?04:13
scuniziKavinorum: if you want others to look at it.. paste it in pastebin.com and provide a link here04:13
ZykoticK9d4n1, don't know04:13
Kavinorumkk04:13
d4n1ZykoticK9: ok, thanks though04:14
daroluthere is no xorg.conf file anymore, any idea of where can I modify whatever it uses now?04:15
ZykoticK9darolu, you can generate one -- do you have nvidia?04:16
scunizidarolu: xrandr controls video04:16
daroluNo, I have ATI04:16
daroluZykoticK9: it is an old ATI card too, so I can't install propietary driver either04:16
funkycat90210can I install a non-gnu java via apt-get?04:16
ZykoticK9darolu, this "should" work http://paste.ubuntu.com/381354/04:17
daroluscunizi: xrandr has a xorg.conf substitute file?04:17
Kavinorumhttp://pastebin.com/m2f1672bb <-- log of wireless error04:17
Kavinorumhopefully someone here can interpret that :D04:18
daroluZykoticK9: thanks, I'll try it.04:19
scunizidarolu: xrandr will dynamically generate the appropriate settings.. the biggest question is weather or not ATI has depreciated your card in their latest drivers that are compatible with the latest X.org.. check their site first before you spinn your wheels.. look for the driver and if they mention an older driver to use they will typically say it's not compatible with the current Xorg04:19
daroluscunizi: already checked, my card is no longer supported in Linux, the "legacy driver" doesn't work with my current kernel (2.6.31)04:20
scunizidarolu: then you're stuck.. time to get a new card that is compatible or wait for the ATI drivers to catch up04:20
sslaccessrocksalfattah: do you mean change the karmic login screen to a ttyl like in alt+ctrl+F1?04:23
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sslaccessrocksscunizi: after mounting the ubuntu alt iso and apt-cdrom for detection (checked the sources.list to ensure), i cannot find a package with apt-cache search restricted that matches either the meta or full package04:24
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scunizisslaccessrocks: you might have to use a different computer and look in packages.ubuntu.com.. download and put it on a usb stick or something to transfer it.04:27
sslaccessrocksscunizi: doing that right now04:27
^sn00per^hello04:28
sslaccessrocksscunizi: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-restricted-modules-server&searchon=names&suite=lucid&section=all (no results)04:28
^sn00per^anyone alive in here ?04:28
vr_mexblakkheim: no luck !!!04:28
scunizisslaccessrocks: I was also using my 8.04 install to search for the package.. might be different for the latest release.04:28
^sn00per^i have a question  how do i set up a boot floppy to load usb drivers to boot into external hard drive that has ubuntu already installed ?04:29
vr_mexblakkheim: no luck !!!, I just get a flash from the terminal04:29
sslaccessrocks^sn00per^: there is a tutorial on https://www.auburn.edu/~farvept/ under floppy2usb (software section)04:29
vr_mexblakkheim: tried adding a & at the end and same thing04:30
Shazamsnort doesn't start when Ubuntu is loading up. I have to go in and manually "sudo /etc/init.d/snort start" each time. What would cause it to fail to load when the system is booting?04:30
^sn00per^thank you sslaccessrocks  was searching for that04:30
ouyeswhen you are in xfce , how to use display protection ?04:30
ouyesscreen saver?04:32
MononaI get crazy xruns using jack, even before I load any programs.  I'm on a dual core 3GHz Pentium D, running the real time kernel on Hardy.  I don't think it's jack settings, since I've got it set at 1024 frames, with 45ms latency.  I've been posting on the forum, but I'm kind of running into a wall.  How can I check if it's hardware issues?  Or just generally, what should I be looking for to troubleshoot?04:36
tweisemanhi i need help debugging my wifi card driver?04:36
leohartxafter removing ATI graphics card, and use Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 10), i can't login, it says (EE) no devices detected. what should i do  ?04:40
tweisemanhi i need help debugging my wifi card driver04:41
[deXter]Hi all, in the Live USB system, does the casper-rw file have to be ext2 only or would any other fs (like ext4) would do ?04:42
scunizileohartx: boot into the recovery kernel and you'll see a menu. there's an option to reset the video defaults.. or rediscover04:42
dsnydersZykoticK9, I found out why they changed the xserver restart keyboard shortcut.04:45
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dsnydersIf you have the handicapped accessibility functions active and you press Ctrl and then release it, and a bit later, you press Alt-Bksp (the shortcut to delete a whole word), then Boom! Bye-bye X-session04:46
ZykoticK9dsnyders, makes sense.  Thanks for the info :)04:47
dsnydersZykoticK9, Yeah, it does make sense.  Now, to memorize the new shortcut.  Alt-sysreq-k,  Alt-sysreq-k, Alt-sysreq-k...04:49
leohartxscunizi: there's no menu item you mentioned04:49
jumbersIf I backup /, will dropping that onto a freshly formatted partition then function exactly as if it weren't touched?04:51
alankilajumbers: pretty much, provided you can whip up bootloader for it too04:51
dsnydersjumbers, It should, if you mount the new partition as /04:51
HeadCreepsGreetings04:56
i3inaryhello04:56
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i3inarycan someone help me figure out how to move an ubuntu 9.10 installation to a virtual machine?  basically it would be like restoring a configuration to new hardware.  can someone help point me in the right direction?04:58
HeadCreepsthe right direction would be south of my pants button04:59
i3inaryyou have a button on your foot?04:59
INarstylol05:00
i3inarycould you press it and restore my backup for me then...?05:00
HeadCreepsdo you get it, because you decided that you couldnt say anything funny in return, you would take it to the most dramatic extreme and say my foot.05:00
HeadCreepsHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA05:00
HeadCreepswhen I OBVIOUSLY meant, my penis.05:00
HeadCreepsand no05:00
seanbrystoneo.O05:01
HeadCreepsstagnant water man05:01
INarstyomg05:01
ZykoticK9HeadCreeps, do you have an Ubuntu support question?05:01
HeadCreepsyes Redman05:01
B|aSShes penis has the size of a button05:01
HeadCreepsI do05:01
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HeadCreepsno its a tad bigger than a button05:01
B|aSS<HeadCreeps> the right direction would be south of my pants button05:02
i3inaryso is this the place for dick and fart jokes?05:02
chetnicki3inary: install Ubuntu on VM, then extract the backup there.05:02
HeadCreepsdo you feel e-portant because your name is in red, just wondering05:02
B|aSS<HeadCreeps> when I OBVIOUSLY meant, my penis.05:02
ZykoticK9i3inary, NO!05:02
mrb427for embedded applications is it better to use static or dynamic variables05:02
i3inaryZykoticK9, thank you just wondering.05:02
gabrieljoining05:02
i3inarychetnick, ok i have the vm set up with ubuntu now...so i can just "sudo cp -R /backup/* /" and im done?05:03
chetnicki3inary: i would suggest doing that in single user mode.05:04
chetnicki3inary: yes that would be it, if its a complete backup.05:04
chetnicki3inary:05:04
chetnicki3inary: use sudo cp -ax /backup/* /05:04
i3inarychetnick, so i dont have to worry about excluding any files that would mess up the drivers on the new installation?05:05
chetnicki3inary: new installation would be pretty much overwriten with your backup.05:05
chetnicki3inary: but that is what you want? And by the way what drivers do you use on VM?05:06
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Guest7428zac05:06
i3inarychetnick, right i understand that the new install is getting overwritten...im just wondering how it will boot if it gets a bunch of incompatible drivers in its configuration files05:07
chetnicki3inary: your new install is Virtual Machine?05:07
i3inarychetnick, correct but it has drivers they are just for simulated hardware no?05:08
chetnicki3inary: from my experience (VMWare) you have now worries about drivers when it comes to virtual machine.05:08
chetnickno worries*05:08
chetnickso you should be fine.05:09
aahanyone know of a way to get vino to give me logs of connection attempts and issues?  trying to diagnose a problem getting from home to work over vpn, and .. connection is established, but no windows locally05:09
gabrieljust a ?  can i use linksys external WUSB54GSC with ubuntu 9.10?05:09
i3inarychetnick, alright. ok so you are saying if i boot a linux install and the configuration files are not compatible with the hardware it will just not use them?05:09
chetnicki3inary: what i'm saying is VM does not have hardware, drivers used in Ubuntu cannot be used on virtual machine.05:10
chetnickVM takes care of that. It's a virtual hardware only existent in VM05:11
RPG_MasterCan I get kubuntu help here?05:11
chetnickRPG_Master: fire it up.05:11
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tristanbobAnyone seeing 100% CPU when flash video playing?  I've searched the forums but only found old results.  This happens on firefox, chromium, and opera.05:12
lane_so ive got a question....is anyone good here with creating hotkeys/remapping keys??05:12
bmatthewtristanbob: get used to it05:12
RPG_MasterI can't login to kubuntu! Every time it kicks me back to the login screen :(05:12
chetnicktristanbob: not a good sign, i dont have that issue.05:12
SolarisBoy;@05:12
RPG_MasterThis was after my first update05:12
tristanbobbmatthew, this has only started in the past month for me.05:12
bmatthewtristanbob: oh, well that's something else then.  i just was going to mention that flash is an absolute piece of shit05:13
chetnickRPG_Master: i had that issue with kdm 4.3, i resolved it by installing gdm, and using that to login.05:13
tristanbobchetnick, thanks for the feedback.05:13
tristanbobbmatthew, I wanted to find out if it is a known bug, with a solution.05:13
RPG_Masterchetnick: :P That could work.05:13
i3inarychetnick, ok im giving it a try ill just revert to the snapshot if it doesnt work...which is the main reason i am moving the physical box to the virtual machine in the first place05:13
chetnickRPG_Master: this issue was on gentoo, and i had kde and gentoo installed on system.05:13
RPG_Masterchetnick: Any other solutions?05:13
klappiRPG_Master: i also had to install gdm05:13
lane_is anyone good here with creating hotkeys/remapping keys?? anyone at all?05:14
chetnicki3inary: you can always come back to most recent snapshot, but i'm 99% sure you'll be fine.05:14
RPG_MasterHow old is this bug?05:14
bmatthewlane_: ive done it before05:14
lane_well see heres my problem, my g and h buttons dont work on my laptop05:15
chetnickRPG_Master: i'm not using KDE, so i cant really help you any further with this issue. You might want to ask somewhere where people are actually using KDE, maybe #KDE, you can always get some good help on #Gentoo as well.05:15
RPG_Masterchetnick: Thanks, I'll check out #KDE :)05:16
chetnickanytime05:16
klappiRPG_Master: i think aprox 2 month05:16
klappiRPG_Master: but i didnt try to change back i like gdm05:16
RPG_Masterklappi: OK, needs to be fix though :(05:16
[deXter]RPG_Master: I had this problem when I updated to 4.405:16
GungaDinhi05:16
ZykoticK9RPG_Master, you might want to try #kubuntu prior to #kde05:17
GungaDinDoes Ubuntu come with SElinux?05:17
lane_with windows i just used a program called autohotkey but i cannnot find an equivelant, with that i wrote a script making shift 6 and 7 being g and \h05:17
klappiRPG_Master: ubuntu is optimized for gdm anyways it starts earlier in the boot process05:17
chetnickGungaDin: I dont think so.05:17
[deXter]RPG_Master: boot into runlevel 3 and do a repo refresh followed by an update05:17
RPG_Masterklappi: Even if you're using Kubuntu?05:17
RPG_Master[deXter]: Wo, wait, what do I do now?05:18
klappiRPG_Master: kdm starts at the very end and gdm earlier, yes05:18
gabrielleaving05:18
[deXter]RPG_Master: Just google what I said if you want further detail. :)05:19
RPG_Master[deXter]: OK "{05:19
RPG_Master*:P05:19
git__i don't understand why Ubuntu doesn't use resierfs05:19
git__ext4 is giving me a BIG HEADACHE and STOMACH-ACHE05:20
lane_lol same question, my guy who was gonna help me just left. is anyone good here with creating hotkeys/remapping keys??05:20
[deXter]git__: Because ReiserFS is as dead as Nina Reiser?05:20
ZykoticK9!runlevels > RPG_Master05:20
ubottuRPG_Master, please see my private message05:20
mezquitalegit__, you can use reiserfs if you want05:20
git__reiserfs is so much more stable than ext4 many times OVER05:20
klappi[deXter]: mean05:20
ZykoticK9RPG_Master, from ubottu's message you can see runlevel 3 isn't going to help you05:20
git__i've committed over 250GB on ext4, it crashes on me every 2 or 3 days so far05:21
lane_nobody...?05:21
mezquitalegit__, if you want you can reinstall and format your hard drive with reiserfs05:21
chetnickgit__: swithc to ext305:21
mezquitalegit__, i05:21
RPG_MasterZykoticK9: Good ol' ubottu :P05:22
jazz?  is this working?05:22
mezquitalegit__,  you can also try ext3 or reformat your hard drive to reiserfs05:22
ZykoticK9lane_, can you set them using System / Preferences / Keyboard Shortcuts ?05:22
rwwjazz: yep!05:22
jazzthanks rww, trying to sus out connection problem here05:23
chetnickgit__: yeah, i heard people having issues with ext4 ... that is why its not recomended for production env.05:23
lane_zykotick9: well i tried, but my goal here is to make shift 6 and 7 be g and h05:23
lane_and so far im unsuccessful05:24
ZykoticK9lane_, won't that mess up ^ and & ?05:24
chetnicki still stick to 9.04, i installed 9.10 on laptop, and i am not happy at all. 9.04 over 8.10 was way big progress than 9.10 over 9.04. If there were progress at all, maybe it was more of a regress.05:25
lane_yeah thats wat im hoping, ghave you ever heard of autohotkey05:25
transom324finally got mplayer & vlc to play DVDs.  thx05:25
ZykoticK9chetnick, in my opinion Karmic (9.10) is just a pre-beta for 10.0405:25
jazzanyone attending the ubuntu manual 48 gig?05:25
infidis it ok to give me a normal user permission to edit files in a subdir of /usr/share/?05:26
[1]spikeHi Everyone, Is anyone here knowledgable with setting a proxy server with ubuntu server? i tried http_proxy=192.168.1.2:6588 then export http_proxy but i still cant seem to get any internet05:26
infid*give a normal05:26
lane_zykotick9: because g and h do not work anymore on my laptop05:26
ardchoilleinfid: I wouldn't05:26
infidardchoille: what are the dangers?05:26
Fudgethink my lan connection is realtech, what would the device be called on ubuntu, on olso it was rge0. i cant check ifconfig because i have no sound and can not use orca. i am blind. so need ssh to fix sound05:26
ZykoticK9lane_, sorry man I've never tried to re-map "actual" keys before, just multimedia/special keys -- best of luck05:27
ardchoilleinfid: chaging files in /usr/share without the need for sudo can make a user lax and not think about possibly trashing something. Requiring sudo makes the user think before editing05:27
lane_alright well thanks anyways05:27
ardchoilleinfid: and you don't want just anyone changing things in there because those files are system-wide05:27
jazzdoes any one have an icon or know if i can even use a "%" for net status instead of these at&T looking bars?05:28
git__chetnick, i was happy with 8.04 ... 9.10 seems to crash more often for me05:29
infidardchoille: well i was just going to be for my user to edit my custom php library files in /usr/share/php/my-libs05:29
needshelphey everyone!05:29
git__10.04 = 2010, april05:29
ardchoilleinfid: well, that might be ok, but just remember you're changing system-wide files05:29
jazzi see two bars but when i hover over it it's either 37% or 48% still anythoing under 51% dont help me05:30
infidok05:30
needshelphey does any one use ubuntu for gaming?05:30
ZykoticK9needshelp, yup05:30
chetnickgit__: 9.04 is the best so far!!! it is awesome.05:30
needshelpwhat games do you play?05:30
ardchoille!ot | needshelp05:30
ubottuneedshelp: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!05:30
needshelpi was getting to the support part05:31
ZykoticK9needshelp, this isn't a chat channel - do you have a specific game question?05:31
needshelpjust wondering who has experiance in what i need help with05:31
chetnickgit__: the only down side of 9.04 is pulseaudio.05:31
ardchoilleneedshelp: ask your support question and you might get better answers05:31
git__chetnick, can one revert to 9.04 from 9.10?05:31
ZykoticK9needshelp, http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/gaming05:31
needshelpI am trying to find the best way to play a game, HoN. I have tried the linux app and wine aswell05:31
chetnickgit__: i'm not sure, i dont think so.05:31
needshelpI just cant seem to get a decent frame rate05:31
ardchoillegit__: no05:32
needshelpi think it is the gfx drivers05:32
git__i skipped from 8.04 LTS to 9.10 ... thinking that 9.10 is more stable than 9.0405:32
ZykoticK9needshelp, what gfx card?05:32
needshelpati 387005:32
chetnickgit__: i went from 8.04 to 9.04.05:32
macstaris there any way to remove all package deps that was installed from an apt-get command?05:32
ZykoticK9needshelp, sorry man i don't to ati stuff - best of luck.05:32
needshelp:(05:32
needshelpyeah the ati drivers are really bad...05:33
chetnickmacstar: sudo apt-get autoremove05:33
suncrossquestion for the pile: I'm trying to install 9.10 from a disc I made with the iso hosted on the ubuntu official site, and it requires a username and pw that it never lets me define, and I'm not doing an oem install...ideas?05:33
Fudgewould a realtec gigabit lan card be called rge0?05:33
sslaccessrockssuncross: i had the same thing happen to me today from the iso hosted on the office site; a reinstall fixed the problem05:33
chetnicksuncross: after you install, or before you even start install?05:33
macstarchetnick: thanks05:34
suncrossit happens before i install it, it never brings up the normal welcome window05:34
chetnicksuncross: i have no clue what is that.05:34
needshelpsuncross, you may have dled the wrong version. I downloaded the server verison once and it did that.05:35
suncrossi thought i might have to, but I checked my DL folder and it's the desktop05:35
needshelpsuncross..i would recommend using a jump driver over a cd too, it installs way quicker.05:35
sslaccessrockssuncross: yes, this happened on the server version today from the iso from the official ubuntu site (9.10)05:35
needshelpsearch for pendrivelinux.com and they have apps that auto download the correct distro.05:36
suncrossok, thanks! I have some options05:36
needshelpand put it on a jumpdrive for you.05:36
kesherwanihello05:36
kesherwanii need some help ...05:36
sslaccessrocks!hello | kesherwani05:36
ubottukesherwani: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!05:36
kesherwanidue to some error , my system is not getting booted up prperly05:37
kesherwaniubuntu was installed on my system , but somehow ,now its not getting properly boot .with an ALERT message /dev/disk/by-uuid/44c02152-eb7c-4ca8-b6c6-38cf65a6552f does not exit .Dropping to a sherll i am struck at a prompt (initramfs) . how to resolve this.. how else if could not be resolved , is there any way to repair OS like we do in windows?05:37
jngdweDoes anybody here know if ATI has working drivers for 9.10 that dont cause the black screen at boot?05:37
sslaccessrockskersherwani: was this during an upgrade?05:37
needshelpjngdwe. the 10.2 drivers dont05:38
jngdweDangit05:38
HazRPGhey all05:38
jngdweWell, is there any known fix that WILL let me use drivers with working 3d acceleration?05:38
needshelpjng http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide05:38
jngdweahh05:38
sslaccessrocks!hello | HazRPG05:38
ubottuHazRPG: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!05:38
needshelpjng use that website i sent you to evaluate the different options05:38
HazRPGcan someone recommend me a hierarchy making application?05:38
needshelpi have been messsing with gfx drivers all day to no avail05:38
needshelpthe gfx drivers for linux SUCK05:39
kesherwanii am not sure , i do upgrade regulalry ..the system was working well and fine , the last time i used. and when i swiutched on and booted my system today , struck to it05:39
jngdwepersonally, the ATI drivers always worked fine for me until 9.1005:39
HazRPGneedshelp: all of them? Including the nvidia and ATI ones?05:39
jngdweand ssame with nvidia, i always had good luck on my 6150, 6600LE, 7600GT, 9600GT05:39
HazRPGneedshelp: granted, they are closed-source, but so are the windows-based ones.05:40
HazRPGanyone know of a good hierarchy diagram program?05:40
needshelpuse visio05:41
needshelpit is an m$ product but you can get a free  2010 beta key05:41
HazRPGneedshelp: isn't that a microsoft application?05:41
kesherwanisslaccessrocks : i am not sure , i do upgrade regulalry ..the system was working well and fine , the last time i used. and when i swiutched on and booted my system today , struck to it05:41
needshelpyes. but you can use it for free in beta05:41
HazRPGneedshelp: true... but I'm looking for something to use in the long-term05:41
jngdweThis latest ATI issue is such a pain, i was so happy to have my 5.1 X-FI setup finally fully functional, with even sound playing on all 5 speakers05:42
needshelpand the ati drivers work fine until you want to play an opengl game05:42
jngdweNo they don't, i cannot get them to work at all with my 483005:42
jngdweunles you mean the open source drivers05:42
[deXter]HazRPG: Dia is pretty good05:42
jngdweAnd open source is not an option for me, i am a gamer and am totally obsessed with compiz05:43
dako3256if i wanted to make gedit the default editor for a program what i need to put in the command line?05:43
git__can one resize ext4?05:43
sslaccessrockskesherwani: you might want to try to login to grub using an older kernel (not the top default option); if you get in, try system -> admin -> gparted to repartition your swap (what is the device in question, swap or your OS partition)?05:43
[deXter]git__: Yea05:43
HazRPG[deXter]: I've got Dia, it's a pretty good all-round diagram tool. I just want something that I can enter data into and it'll automatically fill the lines for the structure05:43
dsnyderskesherwani, check your /etc/fstab05:43
HazRPG[deXter]: but if there's nothing better, then I'll just stick with that05:44
dsnydersI really hate that there is no way of getting a list of directories.05:44
jngdweHas anybody here gotten any ATI drivers to work with a 4xxx card on 9.10?05:44
HazRPGpowerpoint use to have a diagram tool to make hierarchical diagrams, shame that OO Presentation doesn't05:44
macstardoes anyone have any tips on getting pptp-client working in 8.04, I have googled out of my mind and cannot find anything to remedy it?05:44
macstarI keep getting 'MPPE required but not available' yet all the debugging points to the kernel having it enabled05:44
needshelpjng the website I sent you has a step by step way to do just that.05:45
HazRPGdsnyders: you mean other than ls?05:45
dsnydersls lists files.  It doesn't list directories.05:45
HazRPGls -all05:45
jngdweI don't need a tutorial on how to install it. The driver installs fine in multiple methods05:45
hamneggaIs it possible to use an md5sum as a universal type of bit code to generate an iso without downloading the actual file - for instance the md5 would be an instruction set so that if you used that, it would automaticaly create the same image?05:45
[deXter]HazRPG: You can dry the Draw program in the OpenOffice suite or Kivio, although I've used neither..05:45
jngdwedid the site include a fix for the black screen at boot?05:45
jngdweAs in right after the ubuntu loading screen05:45
dsnydersHazRPG, No. Only directories.  Like dir /a:d in DOS05:45
needshelpjng yes. it tells you to hold down alt and some other key and hit a series of keys05:46
jngdweBelieve me, i05:46
ZykoticK9hamnegga, no -- md5 sums are tiny05:46
jngdweBelieve me ive tried*05:46
needshelp3. Just in case  Write down or remember this series of Alt+PrntScr key combinations, just in case your screen should go black and Ctrl+Alt+F1 and Ctrl+Alt+Backspace doesn't work.  Alt+PrntScr+r, Alt+PrntScr+s, Alt+PrntScr+e, Alt+PrntScr+i, Alt+PrntScr+n, Alt+PrntScr+u, Alt+PrntScr+b  These keypresses will reboot the system safely. To remember the keypresses, remember this nonsensical phrase: "Raising Skinny Elephants Is Never Utterly B05:46
jngdwewait, prntScr?05:47
HazRPGdsnyders: ls --help05:47
chetnickWTF?05:47
hamneggawell, I don't see why something similar could be used, since it's all binary in the end and use some type of encryption and key.05:47
jngdweCan you tell me in general what they do?05:47
HazRPGdsnyders: if you use ls -d, it shows directorys05:47
jngdweIve been with Ubuntu for a few years, but i dont know a whole lot in terms of key presses05:48
rwwhamnegga: no. There are lots (I think infinite) of different files that map to the same MD5 hash. The whole concept of hashing a file involves ending up with something that has less information than the original file, so you can't go backwards.05:48
dsnydersHazRPG, No, it doesn't.  It lists the files in the directories.05:48
c_nickHi does anyone know of the IRC Room of google chrome browser05:48
ZykoticK9dsnyders, ls -- shows both files & directories, not sure why you think it doesn't05:49
dsnydersZykoticK9, Exactly, it shows both.  I want only the directories.05:49
daroluc_nick: #chrome exists but you need password; I don't know of another05:49
c_nickhmm ok05:49
git__can't wait to have btrfs :)05:50
git__that'll solve much of my filesystem problem05:50
git__ext4 will go away within a year or two05:50
c_nickdarolu:  i installed GCB and i wanted to add an extension .crx file05:50
c_nicki tried with ./chrome --extension="path to .crx file"05:50
c_nickbut did not work05:50
daroluc_nick: I have no idea how chrome extensions work, sorry05:51
anom01ywhat is more supported for Linux, Nvidia geforce 6200 256 mb   or   an Ati Radeon X1650 PRO 512mb05:51
anom01yI need the tv out to work05:51
kesherwanisslaccessrocks : its saying check root =bootarg cat /proc/cmdline or missing modules , devices: cat /proc/modules ls /dev05:51
HazRPG[deXter]: Draw program did you say earlier? or Kivio?05:51
HazRPG[deXter]: might try those, thanks05:51
ZykoticK9dsnyders, "ls -d */" should work05:52
HazRPGdsnyders: http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/10/19/list-only-the-directories/05:52
HazRPGdsnyders: it shows you how to list only directories using ls05:53
jozeyelloowwwwwww05:54
ZykoticK9HazRPG, did you try ls -l | grep “^d” -- on my system that didn't work05:54
HazRPGdid you copy and paste it?05:56
HazRPGbecause it's using a different type of quotation mark then the one printable from the keyboard05:56
HazRPGtype it manually05:56
ZykoticK9anom01y, if you want TV Out i'd go with Nvidia (mind you I'd always go for Nvidia)05:56
anom01yyeah thats what Im using now05:57
anom01yZykoticK9, only problem is that the stupid card has no heat sink05:57
HazRPGZykoticK9: try typing it in manually, because copying and pasting it won't work:    ls -l | grep "^d"05:57
anom01ywell it does but it has no fan05:57
dsnydersHazRPG, Read the page you linked to and you'll see all the hoops you need to jump through just to get a simple list of directories.05:57
HazRPGZykoticK9: if you copy and paste that, it'll work05:57
anom01yI am going to buy one and stick it on the fins05:58
PinkFloydIm trying to change the port my SSH server runs on, by reconfiguring the Port directive in ssh_config. However, when I restart the server, it's still on port 22. Ideas?05:58
ZykoticK9HazRPG, sure enough05:58
HazRPGdsnyders: make a bash script to make it easier if you must05:58
rolsworthin windows when playing HD flash I use about 1% cpu but in Ubuntu it uses over 50%. doesn't gpu acceleration work?05:58
HazRPGdsnyders: although I never have a problem using ls by itself, it still lists all the directories, granted along with all the files too, but it still gets the job done05:59
ZykoticK9HazRPG, still think the "ls -d */" is much prettier without the long stuff there05:59
seanbrystonewhats the best compression, like .7z? I need like really good compression, i dont care how long it takes to compress really06:00
HazRPGZykoticK9: true enough...06:00
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[deXter]rolsworth: Did you install the restricted graphic card drivers?06:00
rolsworthyep06:00
rolsworthmade nop difference06:01
rolsworthdoesn't seem to have gpu acceleration06:01
ZykoticK9rolsworth, i believe only Nvidia+vdpau give video acceleration - and i don't think it working in any browsers (might be wrong)06:01
rolsworthon windows it works06:02
ZykoticK9rolsworth, then i guess windows is better... lol06:02
HazRPGrolsworth: tried messing with the settings in the NVIDIA X Server Settings application?06:02
[deXter]Anyways, it's high time we ditch Flash.06:03
rolsworthno06:03
[deXter]Kill it I say, kill it with FIRE!06:03
HazRPG[deXter]: lol for what?06:03
HazRPG[deXter]: what would you replace it with?06:03
ZykoticK9html5!06:03
HazRPG[deXter]: although I kind of agree, we do need to have a similar open-source version of flash06:03
rolsworthflash isn't going any where any time soon06:03
h0rnmancan anyone point me to a more 'acceptable' way to automount network shares when using a USB wireless card than adding "mount - a" to /etc/gdm/PostLogin/Default?06:03
ZykoticK9if you use Chromium or chrome you can use youtube html5 HD stuff!  www.youtube.com/html506:03
h0rnmanit feels a tad bit hacky06:04
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dsnydersHazRPG, Yes, it gets the job done.  It's just clumsy and I can never remember the trick when I need it.  Perhaps I will create a command alias after all.06:04
[deXter]HazRPG: Ogg / HTML5 Video06:04
[deXter]Well for videos anyways, for other stuff there's CSS06:04
sslaccessrockskesherwani: ok, sorry i don't know how to fix that, maybe others here might06:05
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HazRPG[deXter]: and what are you going to make your vector animations in?06:05
HazRPG[deXter]: I can understand the change to HTML5 for video streaming...06:06
HazRPG[deXter]: but other than that...06:06
[deXter]HazRPG: CSS.06:10
rolsworththe html5 on youtube much slower than flash06:11
RoastedI installed the wasp theme from gnome look. Now I cant get rid of it. It came with an installer script, a .sh file. How do I remove it? I cant select other window borders now. :(06:11
_deXter_rolsworth: It's just in a testing phase, besides it depends on a lot of factors like the browser you're using..06:11
_deXter_rolsworth: It works great for me in the latest Chromium06:12
michaeldouglas30HTML5 Rocks06:13
Brian2898Do Dell Ubuntu laptops work when you upgrade to 9.10?06:13
Brian2898As in the proprietary drivers06:14
sslaccessrocksBrian2898: which driver failed for you? most should transition quietly06:14
Brian2898None have failed, I am thinking about buying dell ubuntu laptop, but I see they are imaged with old version of ubuntu06:15
rolsworthwhy would you buy an ubuntu laptop06:15
sslaccessrocksBrian2898: Dell sells laptops with ubuntu on them, i would look at those for those should easily allow upgrades06:15
rolsworthnot like there is a price difference06:15
sslaccessrocksrolsworth: yeah, that bothered me, that they didn't reduce the cost of windows in ubuntu laptops06:16
rolsworthwaste of money06:16
rolsworthbetter to get that windows license. you might need it one day06:16
sslaccessrocksthey still charge users the price of windows on their laptops and give them ubuntu06:16
Brian2898They do reduce the cost of the laptop...06:16
rolsworthnope the price is basically the same06:17
sslaccessrocksBrian2898: must be a change, last i checked their desktops (which they don't sell with ubuntu) didn't have a cost reduction06:17
sslaccessrocks*anymore06:17
gsgleasonmy notification popups seem malaligned: http://imagebin.ca/view/S0bEif.html06:17
gsgleasoncrap, disregard.  wrong pic.06:18
Brian2898http://www.dell.com/us/en/business/notebooks/vostro-v13/pd.aspx?refid=vostro-v13&s=bsd&cs=04&~ck=mn&dgc=IR&cid=dellhp&lid=rtbn4&ref=hbn06:19
gsgleasonokay, here.  my notification popup seems malaligned. http://imagebin.ca/view/AfjoWUM1.html06:20
sslaccessrocksBrian2898: wow, you're right; a little slow if you ask me (took them at least a year to realize they weren't going to sell any without that cost reduction to the consumer)06:20
gsgleason!06:20
sslaccessrocksgsgleason: i have seen that error before, i believe an upgrade fixed it; anyone else here know?06:20
torasukuHow do I remove the titlebar fading in Metacity of unfocused windows?06:20
gsgleasonsslaccessrocks: I am full up to date on 9.10 Linux greglap 2.6.31-19-generic #56-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 28 01:26:53 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux06:21
gsgleasontorasuku: do you have desktop effects enabled?06:22
torasukugsgleason, yes.06:22
[1]spikeif i want to open a file called sources.list from linux CLI what command do i use? im in the directory06:22
gsgleasontorasuku: install compizconfig-settings-manager and use if to customize everything.  it must be in there somewhere.06:23
gsgleasontorasuku: I don't know for a fact, but I would think it would be there if anywhere.06:23
torasukugsgleason, I have it installed, I've been looking through it and I don't see it. I remember seeing some gconf command on shiki-colors old Gnome-Look page, but it's not there anymore :\06:23
torasukugsgleason, it's something with Metacity, rather than Compiz, if I remember correctly.06:23
sslaccessrocksspike: sudo nano sources.list06:24
sslaccessrocksthen ctrl+o to save and ctrl+x to close without saving06:24
gsgleasontorasuku: if you disable desktop effects, does it still fade?06:24
neil_dwhat does the /boot/xen-3.3 binary do?06:24
gsgleasonspike, use any text editor.  there are many for terminal use.  I like vim which is vi plus more features.  a lot like emacs and some nano.06:25
sslaccessrocksspike: be sure to backup your sources.list first (sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup06:25
torasukugsgleason, no, it doesn't fade then.06:25
[1]spikethanks but i already broke it lol06:26
[1]spikesources.list didnt like me typing edit sources.list06:26
gsgleasonneil, what package does it belong to?  apt-file search filename06:26
gsgleasonman edit06:26
gsgleasonread.06:26
[1]spikeit dissapeared but i have a file sources.list~ whats that?06:26
neptunepinkWhere can I get 32-bit libncursesw?06:26
[1]spikeyeah i just found the man command06:27
sslaccessrocksneptunepink: maybe try http://packages.ubuntu.com06:27
[1]spikebut it was after i tried my msdos command06:27
gsgleason[1]spike: that is a swap file usually.06:27
sslaccessrocksneptunepink: or you could "apt-cache search libncursesw" in terminal06:27
[1]spikeok ill copy the sources.list from my fresh VM06:27
Mixxiti am having some problems where my 3g dongle internet is really slow and my network adapter also wont pick up an ip address06:27
sslaccessrocksmixxit: in terminal, do a "sudo dhclient" to renew an ip address06:28
Mixxiteverytime i boot up?06:28
coldfire2122is it bad to run kde apps on gnome without using kde as your desktop manager? is there any side effects?06:28
sslaccessrocksmixxit: its a temporary solution i know, haven't experienced 3g yet06:28
Mixxitthat's for my network card problem right not my 3g problem?06:28
the_jackdawIm trying to Dual boot win7 and ubuntu, installed win first and then ubuntu, same disk different partitions. Shouldnt GRUB overwrite the windows bootloader?06:28
Mixxitmy 3g problem looks like its at gprs or something06:29
sslaccessrocksmixxit: it works on any network card, it renews the ip address06:29
Mixxitits really really slow06:29
Mixxitlike 199706:29
coldfire2122the_jackdaw yes06:29
Mixxiti get an ip for my 3g just not my lan06:29
Mixxitbut i will give that a go thanks06:29
the_jackdawThen why does it not do that, GRUB does not start at all, windows starts instead06:29
sslaccessrocksmixxit: that should renew the ip for both connections06:29
gsgleasontorasuku: wouldnt' that mean it's something with compiz then?06:30
mlemoscan anybody tell me if Ubuntu 9.10 AMD 64 image work as 64 bit in a machine with Intel Core 2 Duo?06:30
Mixxitok06:30
Mixxitwhat about the 3g connection speed?06:30
gsgleasonthe_jackdaw: it will if you tell it do install a boot loader.  when it does, it offers a choice as to the device.06:30
coldfire2122the_jackdaw: it should automatically replace the windows bootloader when you install it.06:30
commander_is sunbird equivalent to Google Calendar?06:30
sslaccessrocksthe_jackdaw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or try the grub install CD iso on https://www.auburn.edu/~farvept/ (Grub2 iso)06:30
torasukugsgleason, I suppose, I just seem to recall the old "gconf" line that I saw had to do with metacity :\06:30
gsgleasonmlemos: yes.06:31
gsgleasoncommander_: no06:31
gsgleasontorasuku: gconf-editor06:31
commander_oh ok.it's just a stand alone06:31
sslaccessrocksmixxit: i don't know much about 3g from experience, maybe try increasing your signal strength by repositioning?06:31
gsgleasonlook in apps->metacity perhaps06:31
Mixxitah no it connects at 3.2mb a sec on windows its just something that seems to be happening in ubuntu06:31
torasukugsgleason, it was a whole line that you put into the terminal and it turned the opacity changing behaviour off.06:32
mlemosgsgleason, thanks. Installing now! ;-)06:32
the_jackdawgsgleason: Yea i saw that, but it still didnt work, have tried with 2 different distros, no grub when windows is installed.06:32
sslaccessrocksmixxit: you could always try the bleeding edge 10.04, but i of course cannot recommend that for a stable operating system06:32
Mixxitit's a Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E220 HSDPA Modem / E270 HSDPA/HSUPA Modem06:33
the_jackdawAnd also, the ubuntu installation recognize the vista during the installation, and i choose install next to it and to choose what to load during start up, but no GRUB :P.. very annoying06:33
Mixxithow do i tell what version i am on06:33
Mixxiti would prefer stable06:33
seanbrystonewhats the best compression, like .7z? I need like really good compression, i dont care how long it takes to compress really06:33
amageehey what's the simplest way to get a mail server running that other apps on the same machine can send email through06:33
archboxmanhello what is the out come if we blacklist a module in ubuntu...06:34
ardchoille!version | Mixxit06:34
ubottuMixxit: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »06:34
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Mixxit9.10 karmic06:34
Mixxitis that normal?06:34
ardchoilleMixxit: That is the latest release06:35
Mixxitgreat06:35
sslaccessrocksseanbrystone: 7z works fine, but rar is slightly better06:35
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_deXter_seanbrystone: Depends on what data you're trying to compress06:35
PinkFloydCould someone possibly help me with my display on my HDTV? It looks like it's zoomed.06:35
PinkFloydResolution is 1920x108006:35
Mixxiti'd like to google on it but i get alot of other distros what is that app that sits in the top right tray that i am doing my network connections in?06:35
seanbrystone_deXter_, vmware images06:35
ardchoilleMixxit: network manager ?06:36
_deXter_seanbrystone: .7z then06:36
seanbrystonehow?06:36
Mixxitthanks06:36
seanbrystonewhats the package to download for .7z?06:36
PinkFloydp7zip06:36
seanbrystoneok thx guys06:36
sslaccessrocksseanbrystone: or peazip for a better GUI06:37
PinkFloydI normally just bzip with tar :p06:37
seanbrystonecant find peazip06:37
seanbrystonePinkFloyd, how would i do bzip with tar?06:37
sslaccessrocksseanbrystone: you might have to google it and download it (its easier for beginners that use GUIs)06:38
PinkFloydtar cvjf directory tarball.tar.bz206:38
PinkFloydon command line06:39
sslaccessrocksPinkFloyd: wow, didn't know you could bz2 from the program tar :)06:39
PinkFloydofc :p06:39
sslaccessrocksPinkFloyd: always used bunzip06:39
PinkFloydThe j switch specifies bz206:39
Quoexlcould someone walk me through rsyncing a windows share on a ubuntu box?06:40
PinkFloydchange the c switch to an x switch and it'll decompress it :p06:40
ardchoillePinkFloyd: isn't it "tar cvjf tarball.tar.bz2 directory" ?06:40
sslaccessrocks!rsync | Quoexl06:40
ubottuQuoexl: rsync is a fast remote file copy and synchronization program - For more see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync06:40
PinkFloydIt's been a while since I used it ardchoille, so possibly06:40
SolarisBoyardchoille: yes06:40
ardchoilleah, ok06:40
QuoexlI get that but I dont understand the stuff on that site06:41
Quoexlmainly I want to put it in a cron06:41
SolarisBoyrsync service running on windows ? or ssh?06:41
Quoexlrsync running on the linux box windows using a share, smbmounting it06:42
SolarisBoyyou need a way for rsync to access windows06:42
greggI've got some samba cifs mount problems at boot, and at shutdown as well - any takers? :)06:42
SolarisBoyeither ssh or rsync protocol itself06:42
Quoexlno I got the drive smbmounted06:42
SolarisBoyok so you want to rsync the mount to to something local?06:43
Quoexlto /home/quoexl/windows06:43
Quoexlno I want it to do rsync -r /home/quoexl/windows /backup/windows in a cron06:43
SolarisBoyexactly06:43
SolarisBoyyou want sync the mount to something local06:44
Quoexlhere is the script I have so far06:44
SolarisBoyuse that line in cron... i dont see an issue with it...06:44
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Quoexlwill the smbmount work in there too?06:44
SolarisBoywhy not? given the network is up and mount is persistent ,, and mounted...06:44
Quoexlwoot, thanks06:45
greggI've got a bunch of samba shares in fstab - only SOME of them actually mount at startup, but a sudo mount -a works no probs - i connect via wireless06:45
h0rnmangregg, what kind of problems?06:45
greggthat's the startup problem06:45
greggwe'll take the shutdown problem after ;)06:45
SolarisBoygregg: are all the  shares on the same boxes?06:45
h0rnmangregg, ubuntu version?06:45
greggyep06:45
SolarisBoyhmm06:45
greggh0rnman: kubuntu karmic06:45
Quoexlyou could write an init.d script that smbmounts those06:45
SolarisBoywhy?06:46
greggi just don't understand why SOME mount no prob06:46
h0rnmangregg, I'm wrestling with this one too06:46
SolarisBoymaybe mount options?06:46
Quoexlsheist occurs?06:46
greggmy line in fstab: //192.168.1.100/films\040test /home/gregg/Videos/filmstest smbfs credentials=/home/gregg/.smbcredentials,uid=100006:46
Guest76628i cant setteing desktop06:47
SolarisBoyGreyhound-:06:47
SolarisBoythat credentials line...06:47
SolarisBoyi believe is buggy06:47
the_jackdawcan i reinstall GRUB somehow?06:47
SolarisBoyi tried using it for a client,, and use a hidden file like so....06:47
gregghmm ok - workaround?06:47
SolarisBoydidn't work,, til i specified user,password way06:47
h0rnmangregg, try \\192.168.1.100\films\ test /home/gregg/VIdeos/filmtest cifs credentials.....blah blah06:47
Quoexlwhat is grub doing to you jack?06:47
h0rnmansmbfs is old, buggy, and going away at some point AFAIK06:48
SolarisBoythat was on red hat though,, but that was my work around,,,06:48
greggok i'll try the cifs thing we'll see if that works06:48
SolarisBoyinstead of the creds file,, i had to specify explicitly in the fstab user=,password....06:48
greggnow the shutdown problem ;o)06:48
SolarisBoyheh k...06:48
the_jackdawQuoexl, it is not starting, im trying to dualboot with win7.. and when i installed ubuntu and restarted,, grub did not start, just went into windows06:48
h0rnmanremove the uid section at the end as well06:48
greggI hang at shutdown - CIFS VFS: No response for cmd 50 blabla06:48
Guest76628i cant mirror my desk top then it's icon is very large please tell me how to slove this problem06:48
Quoexlsorry, outta my league06:49
the_jackdaw:P06:49
seanbrystonei tried, tar cvjf tarball.tar.bz2 filenamegoeshere     no luck06:49
SolarisBoygregg sounds like you possibly have a network issue?06:49
Quoexlare you on 2 drives? did it write to the wrong mbr?06:49
sslaccessrocksseanbrystone: i would stick with peazip then after installing 7zip06:50
the_jackdawwell, i have tried both with 2 disks,, and 1 disk 2 partitions06:50
greggSolarisBoy: from what I can read in the forums it's a "normal" problem - there are about 50000 ways to fix it though06:50
SolarisBoypossibly options in samba.conf06:50
the_jackdawusually ubuntu should overwrite the windows bootloader06:50
seanbrystonesslaccessrocks, yeah im using Nautilus , but was kinda hoping to do it CLI way :D06:51
sslaccessrocksanyone know how to use apturl?06:51
archboxmanwell figured out what they did to fix all those wifi card issues with Atheros wifi cards.. changed the module to ath9k from ath5k it was a backport driver06:51
Guest76628helloow i cant understand what's your tallking06:51
MixxitxD06:52
h0rnmangregg, try:  ln -s /etc/init.d/umountnfs.sh /etc/rc.0/K14umountnfs.sh  <--  I think this is correct syntax :)06:52
greggok - thanks h0rnman06:52
h0rnmannp...also add it to /etc/rc.6/06:52
h0rnmanso you catch reboot06:53
greggh0rnman: no such file or directory06:53
sslaccessrocksi am trying to download adobe flash through apturl (10.01) (i know ubuntu+1 exists), anyone know how to work apturl?06:53
SolarisBoyi guess you just make one gregg06:53
h0rnmangregg, no...it should be there06:53
Myrtti!upstart06:53
archboxmanIf anyone wants to read this about Atheros wifi cards: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1309605&highlight=backports+for+wifi06:53
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/06:54
greggthen why the error? ;) should i sudo the command?06:54
h0rnmangregg, yes...sorry, I didn't specify06:54
greggoki06:54
greggh0rnman: same error06:54
Quoexlquestion, is anything run out of init.d inherently run as sudo?06:54
Myrttih0rnman, gregg: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html06:54
archboxmanproblem is upstart is using grub2 and having problems06:54
Steil_hey06:55
Steil_is there a way to change my ident reply?06:56
Callum__Quoexl: all the init scripts run as root (not sudo, sudo is just a command to temporarily elevate you to superuser privileges)06:56
h0rnmanyeah, I suppose you can do it that way too :)06:56
Callum__oh, he's gone...06:57
gregggoing to reboot see if my changes helped - brb ;)06:57
jungleberrykidI'm having a problem booting, grub2 is fine, kernel image is fine, init scripts run and after AppArmour profiles loaded by boot hangs - I don't get any gui06:58
jungleberrykidhave tried reinstalling xserver-xorg, ubuntu-desktop, gdm..... hasn't fixed the problem... :(06:58
ultrazhey, whats up with this new grub, how do i boot without splash screen and all other stuff. vga option not available anymore?06:59
sslaccessrocksjunbleberrykid: are you running on x86 on a 10 year old machine with poor to no acpi?06:59
archboxmanjungleberrykid: what is the script for???06:59
jungleberrykidit's a brand new Dell XPS laptop06:59
jungleberrykidI've tried with various boot line paramters incl noacpi07:00
jungleberrykidhow do I debug my boot process?07:00
archboxmandmesg07:00
trollboyis it possible to sync pidgin with IndicatorApplet 0.1?07:00
Mixxitthanks for your help all, have a great week07:00
c_nickjungleberrykid: ok seems like a weird question.. but can u tell me if i should go in for a DELL VOSTRO /New Inspiron 14 my budget is $800 bucks. since u took a new dell laptop ur view could come in handy for me .. i will be using for Work + play.. so i will use it almost daily.. even travel with it07:01
yoavsbg17hey, i uses ubuntu with Firefox, and some pages which based on Explorer loads with Gebrish. somebody please can help me who can am I fix it ??07:01
[1]spikewere should apt packages be kept on the ubuntu install cd?07:01
archboxmanjungleberrykid: not pointing at your wifi card or internet in general if so remove it.. it will either not connect or send a loopback test to infinity07:01
sslaccessrocksspike: under pool07:02
jungleberrykidI love my Dell laptop, performs really well and would pick it again if I had the choice07:02
greggbleah - my samba shares still didn't mount - well, 4 out of 7 mounted, the last three didn't07:02
c_nickjungleberrykid:  which one is it07:02
yoavsbg17somebody here can help please  ?07:03
alazyworkaholicI can't speak at #radeon & the ubuntu community documentation is very out of date. I have an ATI radeon 3200 & I want to know what my best options are re the open source radeon driver. I believe there are several ways to get it, not sure what they are. I want something that will have some newer code so at least basic 3D works, while remaining safe enough that I can depend on the driver to work for me mostly every day.07:03
sslaccessrocks!ask | yoavsbg1707:03
ubottuyoavsbg17: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)07:03
git__can one resize ext4 primary partition while its online ?07:03
iflematrollboy shutdown empathy and pidgin will take over.....07:03
yoavsbg17 sslaccessrocks:  i uses ubuntu with Firefox, and some pages which based on Explorer loads with Gebrish. somebody please can help me who can am I fix it ??07:04
sslaccessrocksgit__: i believe so, but i believe its dangerous07:04
git__i'm experimenting07:04
greggI have 7 samba shares that should mount in fstab - only 4 out of the 7 mount (the first 4) - I connect using wireless - any ideas?07:04
^sn00per^sslaccessrocks : i followed  the instructions on floppy2usb07:04
sslaccessrocks^sn00per^: any luck?07:04
^sn00per^cant fingure where i went wrong07:05
iflematrollboy the user switcher will need reloading or a reboot will doit.....07:05
SolarisBoygregg: you confirmed all the samba shares on from same windows host?07:05
sslaccessrocks^sn00per^: i was going to try them soon, i just put them up as a mirror yesterday07:05
greggSolarisBoy: yep07:05
^sn00per^it works but just not finidng the disk that it is on07:05
greggSolarisBoy: and now if I run mount -a they all mount just fine07:05
trollboyiflema, I've shut down empathy and am running pidgin now, but no love07:05
SolarisBoygregg: does this same behavior occur on a wired network?07:06
^sn00per^just need to point that grub to look in the external hard drive i just installed it to ..07:06
greggSolarisBoy: hmm, I haven't tried that07:06
SolarisBoygregg: that can happen07:06
iflematrollboy i didnt notice the 0.107:06
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SolarisBoygregg: as i stated check the network,, try a wire for a comparison07:06
^sn00per^any idea sslaccessrocks?07:06
yoavsbg17sslaccessrocks: ?07:06
sslaccessrocksyoavsbg17: the quickest solution would be to install seamonkey (sudo apt-get install seamonkey), but it sounds like you are trying to open a binary file with firefox (which no internet browser supports)07:06
greggSolarisBoy: ok i'll try...07:06
SolarisBoycool07:07
* iflema ive really got to stop trying to answer questions07:07
greggstill looking for a solution to my shutdown problem - when I've got that, i'll try wired ;)07:07
sslaccessrocks^sn00per^: i am not a big fan of using grub, when i need grub help, i go to the very quiet room #grub often until someone is there07:07
ShazbotMcNastyI'm not getting any video, from any site.07:07
ShazbotMcNastywhat do?07:07
* iflema or not tring :)07:07
alazyworkaholicI can't speak at #radeon & the ubuntu community documentation is very out of date. I have an ATI radeon 3200 & I want to know what my best options are re the open source radeon driver. I believe there are several ways to get it, not sure what they are. I want something that will have some newer code so at least basic 3D works, while remaining safe enough that I can depend on the driver to work for me mostly every day.07:07
sslaccessrocksShazbotMcNasty: reinstall adobe flash here: http://www.adobe.com/flashplayer07:07
^sn00per^sslaccessrocks: me either07:08
SolarisBoygregg: what happend to the umountsmb.sh script he asked you to link to your rc's?07:08
yoavsbg17i think that the site isn't support firefox, but as i know there is sould be some add-on to fix it  ?07:08
yoavsbg17am I right ?07:08
Gryphon9Can someone help... i have instaled gnome do but i dont know how to make the fansy panel apper?:(07:08
sslaccessrocks^sn00per^: when it can boot *.iso files using PEX emulation, then i'll support grub2 fully07:08
greggSolarisBoy: i didn't change the script - he just said to do some simlinks, no?07:08
^sn00per^sslaccessrocks: whats the default grub parameter  on ubuntu ?07:08
SolarisBoygregg: thats what you would need for the script to execute on shutdown && reboot07:09
sslaccessrocksyoavsbg17: you could try a firefox addon, call user-agent and change it to "appear" like internet explorer07:09
aahany issues w/ running xfce and gnome side-by-side?  vanilla 9.10 install, just wondering which of the many xfce packages will Do The Right Thing without horking my gnome install07:09
sslaccessrocks!grub207:09
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub207:09
greggSolarisBoy: i did the simlinks - still hanged on shutdown: "CIFS VFS: No response for cmd 50 blabla"07:09
trollboyiflema, so I'm screwed?07:09
yoavsbg17ok thanks i'll try07:09
sslaccessrocks^sn00per^: i think its grub-update, do a find / -name grub to search files07:09
SolarisBoygregg: your smb mount,, is it possible that its busy and write/delete many files there while its mounted?07:10
* iflema :)07:10
SolarisBoygregg: like possibly mount for music player or something that may hold onto a file?07:10
^sn00per^sslaccessrocks: why i am doing this route is because i have this viao pcg-u 101 hard drive is dead, the viao is not usb bootable, just need something like floppy2usb07:10
greggSolarisBoy: nope - I just shutdown without having done anything but looking at the files (not opening), same hang07:10
greggSolarisBoy: hmmmmm, could amarok be doing it? My library is on a mounted partition...07:11
TLULMy Karmic install only boots up successfully roughly half of the time. How can I try to find out what the problem is?07:11
sslaccessrocks^sn00per^: i went online and bought a ide to usb cable plus power adapter for $1007:11
SolarisBoygregg: yes07:11
greggcrap07:11
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^sn00per^i have the usb to external hard drive07:11
greggSolarisBoy: ok - i'll try shutting down amarok and see wat happens07:11
greggbrb07:11
SolarisBoygregg: ok07:11
sslaccessrocks^sn00per^: you may also want to try a linux floppy to recover your files07:11
^sn00per^the viao is powering the hard drive just fine but bios does not support usb booting07:11
sslaccessrocks^sn00per^: no, i mean it will detect the hard-drive as a thumb-drive after buying that, and it can boot from a live cd or linux floppy (that doesn't redirect floppy2usb)07:12
jungleberrykidmy karmic install does not boot up into X and I don't get any error messages on startup, what do I do?07:12
archboxmangrub2 if you have have problems just close your eyes and click your heels three times and "there is nowhere like home" soon you will see the desktop popup in your dreams...07:13
viviersfy07:13
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sslaccessrocksjungleberrykid: try alt+ctrl+F1 then login and type startx (errors if fails or will start up correctly)07:13
alazyworkaholicI tried to get help on #radeon but I just get "Could not send to channel" every time I write something. I used to be able to talk a couple months ago, what gives?07:13
archboxmangrub2 if you have have problems just close your eyes and click your heels three times and repeat the words "there is nowhere like home" soon you will see the desktop popup in your dreams...07:13
jungleberrykidthat's the other problem I'm having: I don't get any tty's :(07:13
archboxmangrub2 if you have have problems just close your eyes and click your heels three times and repeat the words "there is nowhere like home" soon you will see the desktop popup in your dreams...07:13
Myrttiarchboxman: be helpful :-|07:13
sslaccessrocksjungleberrykid: do you have an ssh server running on the machine you could ssh username@laptop -X to get X11 errors or see if its working07:14
archboxmanMyrtti: sorry Captian Morgan and OJ took over my brain ....07:14
^sn00per^yeah sslaccessrocks i get that but the thing is the laptop is not a usb bootable07:14
jungleberrykidguy's where's the best place to get online support for boot issues?07:15
sslaccessrocks^sn00per^: what about that grub2 iso put on a floppy?07:15
archboxmanjungleberrykid: your looking at it07:15
jungleberrykidI've googled extensively and need some experienced support with this issue I am experiencing..07:15
archboxmanjungleberrykid: do dmesg07:15
jungleberrykidok - how do I dmesg?07:15
yoavsbg17sslaccessrocks: there is no support for Linux :(07:15
jungleberrykidlol07:15
SolarisBoytype dmesg in a terminal07:15
sslaccessrocks^sn00per^: its 1.2 MB, so it should fit on07:15
greggSolarisBoy: it wasn't amarok :(07:16
^sn00per^sslaccessrocks: ok does the grub2 have usb drivers07:16
sslaccessrocksyoavsbg17: you try the firefox useragent plugin?07:16
SolarisBoygregg: ok .. did you switch to wired?07:16
git__how can one debug filesystem prob? ... a tool like strace is cool07:16
greggSolarisBoy: not yet07:16
sslaccessrocks^sn00per^: no, it sees whatever the bios sees07:16
archboxmanjungleberrykid: you may need to use a livecd if your system keeps freezing07:16
yoavsbg17sorry i even don't know what is it ..07:16
greggSolarisBoy: i'll get there ;)07:16
jungleberrykideverything looks good in dmesg - no warnings, no errors...07:16
^sn00per^this viao is too old to boot off a usb07:16
SolarisBoygregg:07:17
^sn00per^it is a pre 2000'07:17
jungleberrykidI've already used LiveCD and flashstick boot07:17
SolarisBoysorry.. typed enter to early =)07:17
sslaccessrocksyoavsbg17: open firefox, tools, addons, search user-agent, download plugin, restart firefox, tools, user-agent, choose internet explorer, and it will fake internet explorer to websites07:17
SolarisBoygregg: what is the complete message dmesg that you see?07:17
klappijungleberrykid: what kind of box is it an old one?07:17
archboxmanjungleberrykid: did you hook up a extrenal drive to this laptop???07:17
jungleberrykidI can mount my karmic boot partition and everything is there - nothing is missing or corrupt07:17
ultrazhow can i make 9.10 boot verbose/console. This grub2 is driving me crazy.07:17
SolarisBoyis there messages about inodes and pending writes as well?07:17
archboxmanklappi: runing a dell xps07:18
sslaccessrocksultraz: try #grub07:18
jungleberrykidI have not hooked up an external drive and it's a brand new Dell Studio 16 XPS laptop07:18
greggSolarisBoy: hold on - checking07:18
TLULWhat sort of logs are created at bootup that I could use to figure out why it's not always working?07:18
SolarisBoyok07:18
emghazalWhen I boot the computer, I get "The application 'NetworkManager Applet' (/usr/bin/nm-applet) wants access to the default keyring, but it is locked", and I have to enter the keyring password to access the wireless network. How do I let it connect to the wireless network without asking for the keyring password?07:18
SolarisBoyTLUL: debug.log dmesg messages.07:18
q0_0panyone know an alternative to gnome-do?07:18
sslaccessrocksemghazal: system -> preference -> encryption and keyrings (check there)07:19
TLULSolarisBoy: So how do I view them?07:19
SolarisBoyTLUL: the commands less, cat, tail usually07:19
SolarisBoyTLUL: they are text files07:19
greggSolarisBoy: it's HUGE - hope you're patient lol07:19
jungleberrykidhow do I determine what may be hanging my boot?07:19
SolarisBoygregg: use grep07:19
greggSolarisBoy: ?07:19
TLULSolarisBoy: Where are the files located?07:20
klappijungleberrykid: dmes on console right after boot07:20
klappijungleberrykid: dmesg sorry07:20
SolarisBoygregg: grep -C10 'CIFS VFS' /var/log/messages .. would show 10 lines above and below each occurence of that regex....07:20
archboxmanjungleberrykid: what was the last thing you installed or played with???07:20
SolarisBoyuse grep to slim out the output of everything else to see whats relevant....07:20
sslaccessrocksTLUL: to search for files in command line: find / -name searchterm where "/" is the location, which can be changed to say /home07:20
jungleberrykidklappi: yes, that's exactly what I've done, dmesg and everything looks good - no errors, no warnings, it hangs straight after the AppArmor scripts complete...07:20
SolarisBoyTLUL: logs go under /var/log/07:21
greggSolarisBoy: nothing07:21
greggSolarisBoy: that command shows nothing at all07:21
SolarisBoygregg: possibly in a different log07:21
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jungleberrykidarchboxman: I removed gdm and I also installed upstart at the same time07:21
yoavsbg17sslaccessrocks:  man it still doesn't work, can you try to open the page and maybe its my PC problem https://admin.nite.org.il/cls.php07:21
SolarisBoygregg: like debug.log or in dmesg buffer07:21
jungleberrykidI've re-installed gdm, ubuntu-desktop, xserver-xorg07:21
sslaccessrocksyoavsbg17: its scrambled here too07:22
jungleberrykidhow do I investigate what could be halting my boot?07:22
greggSolarisBoy: sorry i'm not too good with log files :(07:22
sslaccessrocksyoavsbg17: you have to install the arabic language its in to see it properly07:22
yoavsbg17what is scrambled ?!07:22
SolarisBoygrep where did you find those samba related errors?07:22
TLULjungleberrykid: what problems are you having? The boot is hanging sometimes?07:22
SolarisBoys/grep/gregg/07:22
emghazalsslaccessrocks: I don't have "System -> Preferences -> encryption and keyrings", did you mean "Applicatins -> Accessories -> Passwords and Encryption Keys"? I looked there and didn't find an option to not ask for the keyring password07:22
archboxmanjungleberrykid: you running gnome""07:22
archboxmanjungleberrykid: you running gnome??07:23
greggSolarisBoy: ???07:23
ddavidshello07:23
yoavsbg17sslaccessrocks: with internet explorer it working well07:23
jungleberrykidTLUL: the boot is hanging every single time - at the same place, straight after AppArmor profiles have loaded it just hangs and won't go into X07:23
sslaccessrocksemghazal: sorry, im still on 9.04, thats where i could have checked (had the problem and google worked a while ago)07:23
git__is all the new netbook 64-bit?07:23
SolarisBoyyou showed,, this , CIFS VFS: No response for cmd 5007:23
greggright07:23
desert-pingusHi07:23
jungleberrykidarchboxman: yes, running gnome07:23
SolarisBoyqgwhere did you get that? on console as you shutdown?07:23
sslaccessrocksyoavsbg17: its not blocking firefox, firefox just needs you to install the language pack07:23
greggSolarisBoy: that showed up on my screen at shutdown, hung there07:23
desert-pingusHi.......07:24
indusheya07:24
archboxmanjungleberrykid: I would load in a windows manager and see if it is gnome.... even though this may be a waiste of time07:24
ddavidspls i have sound on my speakers and headphones when the headphones are connected, how do i ensure only the headphones have sound when connected?07:24
sslaccessrocksyoavsbg17: you can install them from here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:307:24
yoavsbg17mm so what am i need to looking for ?07:24
SolarisBoyok so right.. it may be in dmesg,, you go dmesg |grep 'CIFS'07:24
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jungleberrykidarchboxman: ok, how would I load a windows manager in?07:24
Gryphon9Can someone help... i have instaled gnome do but i dont know how to make the fansy panel apper?:(07:24
SolarisBoys/go/can do/  im having a bad typing day...07:24
archboxmanneed to install windows manager like flux box07:25
greggSolarisBoy: nothing07:25
greggdmesg | grep 'CIFS' shows nothing07:25
SolarisBoygregg: grep CIFS /var/log/*07:25
jungleberrykidok, I will search on flux box.... brb07:25
archboxmanSolarisBoy: would loading a windows manger be a good idea??07:25
alazyworkaholiccan anyone tell me how reliable the ati radeon driver from the xorg-edgers ppa is?07:25
SolarisBoyarchboxman: again?07:25
greggSolarisBoy: ok that gives me a lot07:26
Gryphon9indus: may you pm me07:26
SolarisBoygregg: ok,, do you see the error there?07:26
archboxmanSolarisBoy: pressing the idea of jungleberrykid loading a windows manager to see if gnome is the problem ... is this a waste of time???07:26
SolarisBoyarchboxman: whats the problem with his window manager? whats in logs,, im not sure what the issue was07:27
sslaccessrocksyoavsbg17: did that help you at all, i have to head out so i want to answer any further questions before I leave07:27
ddavidspls how do i limit sound to the headphones when connected?07:27
greggSolarisBoy: in syslog.1 and kern.log  the same message over and over: CIFS VFS: No response for cmd 117 mid [different numbers] - and then CIFS VFS: Unexpected lookup error -1107:27
Cappyfolks, im currently using arch, but i'm missing the software repo's from ubuntu, is there any way of building ubuntu to have it a bit snappier, but keep the usability?07:27
navetzhow do I run a cronjob of something located in /home/name/script07:27
yoavsbg17sslaccessrocks: there is no package lang for Arabic07:27
navetzit wont execute07:27
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: my karmic 9.10 install loads the kernel image fine, runs scripts and then just hangs after AppArmor profiles are loaded, no warnings, no error messages.......... and no X :(07:27
navetzbut works properly if I just run it07:28
archboxmanSolarisBoy: not resolving the issue just proving the idea jungleberrykid loading scripts may have lead to gnome failing all at one time07:28
git__navetz, gotta make sure it's executable07:28
SolarisBoygregg: yes something other than amarok is holding it open... you may need to create some sort of script to kill the smb mounts and whatever processes/handles it is... better yet07:28
SolarisBoygregg: try lsof, or fuser to see all whats holding the drive...07:28
git__navetz, chmod u+x /home/name/script07:28
sslaccessrocksyoavsbg17: do you know how to read arabic, if you do, the arabic ubuntu help channel would be a better place to ask07:28
SolarisBoyarchboxman: i see07:28
git__then use: crontab -e07:28
qUaNtiC_hi guys, how to install system-integrity-check on 8.10? cant find it in synaptic...07:29
greggSolarisBoy: umm, lsof is HUGE07:29
yoavsbg17sorry .. i don't07:29
SolarisBoygregg: you need an argument07:29
navetzgit__: it is executable, it works fine on its own, just not in crontab07:29
yoavsbg17but i'll try the hebrew one07:29
archboxmanSolarisBoy: never the idea of moving that fast with either hard ware or software cause a hiccup...07:29
ddavidspls how do i limit sound to the headphones when connected?07:29
sslaccessrocksqUaNtiC_: try the command in terminal: apt-cache search integrity07:29
greggSolarisBoy: like?07:29
jungleberrykidarchboxman: what does fluxbox replace? what does gnome normally use?07:29
yoavsbg17anyway thanks !07:29
SolarisBoygregg: try 'sudo fuser /path/to/smbmountwithissue'07:30
sslaccessrocks!arabic | yoavsbg1707:30
ubottuyoavsbg17: For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية07:30
git__navetz, pipe the execution to log to see what went wrong07:30
^sn00per^*sigh* dang.. im getting run around07:30
qUaNtiC_sslaccessrocks: it gives a lot of packages, but i did the same search in synaptic and it did give a lot there as well, but none was named system-integrity-check07:30
yoavsbg17fine07:30
[1]spikeok does anyone know how i can add packages? to my pool/main so my apt-get can get and install them? i have modified sources.list to point to my mirror 192.168.1.2/ubuntu/07:30
SolarisBoyarchboxman: jungleberrykid is this a new install?07:30
archboxmanjungleberrykid: it uses different software towards that of gnome ... gnome includes its own library of tools ... and fluxbox or other windows managers use there own tools07:30
git__* * * * * /home/name/script >> /home/name/file.log 2>&107:31
Speedy2www.search2.net07:31
sslaccessrocksqUaNtiC_: try http://packages.ubuntu.com maybe its depreciated?07:31
SolarisBoyarchboxman: jungleberrykid are you able to get to recovery/single user mode?07:31
greggSolarisBoy: nothinb07:31
greggSolarisBoy: nothing*07:31
SolarisBoygregg: ok07:31
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: this is not a new install, I had it working perfectly except that I could not get any tty consoles.... I uninstalled gdm and then ran into this problem...07:31
^sn00per^sslaccessrocks: someone just told me to update my firmware i just gave the spec to where this dang viao is not usb bootable07:31
archboxmanSolarisBoy: no need to talk to me just jungleberrykid ....07:31
SolarisBoyok07:31
mukiex_is fstab still the "proper" way to permanently mount Samba shares?07:31
sslaccessrocks^sn00per^: did that fix it?07:32
navetzgit__: alright cool, what does 2>&1 mean? I've seen it before but forgot07:32
mukiex_Just in case there's a better way to do it nowadays, I haven't used Linux in ages.07:32
^sn00per^no07:32
SolarisBoyhmm have you tried reinstalling gdm?07:32
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: I am not able to get into single user/recovery mode - it hangs in the same place..... if I add 'rw init=/bin/bash' to my boot then I can get root access at the command prompt....07:32
archboxmanSolarisBoy: I watch from the cheep sets and file in the blanks...07:32
SolarisBoyarchboxman: =)07:32
^sn00per^sslaccessrocks: no not really the netbook i have is viao pcg u101 which they do not have updates for firmware..07:33
^sn00per^and its not usb bootable ..07:33
SolarisBoyjungleberrykid: try that and to start networking and try to install gdm again,,07:33
sslaccessrocks^sn00per^: arm architecture?07:33
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: I have also usccessfully booted to LiveCD, mounted the partition, run fsck on partition - files are all fine, can even mount to the partition - everything is there....07:33
SolarisBoyis all i can think,, im not good with X/gui related stuff07:33
greggmaybe permanent mount of my samba shares using fstab is the problem???07:33
SolarisBoyjungleberrykid: interesting07:33
sslaccessrocks!arm | ^sn00per^07:33
SolarisBoygregg: or the options used...07:33
SolarisBoygregg: the thing may be wireless...07:34
^sn00per^no its ont a arm archieture07:34
sslaccessrocks!armel | ^sn00per^07:34
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: have booted to root command prompt, have re-installed gdm, have re-installed ubuntu-desktop, have re-install xserver-xorg...07:34
^sn00per^!arm07:34
SolarisBoyjungleberrykid: ok07:34
greggSolarisBoy: that's what i was thinking - maybe i should be mounting AFTER fstab is loaded? like rc.0 or something??07:34
sslaccessrocks^sn00per^: ok, thought u might want to check that before going further, i have to head out, if i find anything, i'll add to that auburn site07:34
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: when I run 'startx' from root prompt it displays some messages which are too quick for me to read and then I get a blank screen - no X....07:34
archboxmanjungleberrykid: that is what I don't understand that is how I make mistakes in computer builds is moving to fast07:34
git__navetz, redirect standard error (STDERR) to STDOUT which is the file.log07:34
SolarisBoygregg: i think thats a viable option,, wireless is up/downy by design,, you may not notice it but it can affect services...07:35
^sn00per^thanks sslaccessrocks07:35
SolarisBoygregg: it may be best to just mount samba manually07:35
sslaccessrocks^sn00per^: np, good day07:35
SolarisBoyjungleberrykid: those messages are in a log file07:35
jungleberrykidarchboxman & SolarisBoy: how do I run 'startx' in verbose mode or debug mode? :)07:36
archboxmangregg: that has to do with your wireless card and range07:36
SolarisBoyjungleberrykid: those messages are in X11 logs07:36
greggarchboxman: what do you mean exactly?07:36
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: ok, I will search for that.... brb07:36
SolarisBoyok07:36
SolarisBoyjungleberrykid: /var/log/ is the location07:36
archboxmangregg: lspci -nnk give me wireless card and module there are some cards known to drop signal...07:37
^sn00per^gregg is there other place i can go to get some help on about booting into external usb hard drive where the laptop is not usb bootable ?07:37
MoatI need nelp07:37
MoatI have a source code in perl07:37
Moatand I wanna know how 2 run it07:37
git__navetz, do u know why people do that?  One reason is because cron email STDERR, that statement redirect STDERR to a log file instead07:37
SolarisBoyMoat: couple ways07:38
SolarisBoyMoat: make it executable with chmod +x07:38
greggarchboxman: the output is big - what am i looking for exactly?07:38
SolarisBoyMoat: or run it like /usr/bin/perl <script>...07:38
navetzgit__: ahh thank you :)07:38
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: I only see 'Xorg.0.log' and 'Xorg.0.log.old' in that folder and both are completely empty.... :(07:38
greggarchboxman: Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g [14e4:4315] (rev 01)07:38
SolarisBoyjungleberrykid: sounds like rotation,, try the startx again07:39
greggarchboxman: Kernel driver in use: wl07:39
archboxmangregg:  need wifi card info ok lets look up module07:39
greggarchboxman: Kernel modules: wl, ssb07:39
jungleberrykidSolarBoy: I can try the startx again but it will just hang, when I reboot the logs are empty....07:39
SolarisBoyok07:39
archboxmangregg: thats fine want to see if people are report drops and gains with wifi card07:39
jungleberrykidis there any way to run startx in verbose mode or debug mode??07:40
SolarisBoydo startx and redirect standard error to a file that will persist after reboot...07:40
ddavidspls how do i limit sound to the headphones when connected?07:40
greggarchboxman: ok07:40
SolarisBoysomething under your home maybe?07:40
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: that is an excellent idea! how would I redirect the output?07:40
SolarisBoyusing > and to do standard error and all to that file.. >&07:41
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archboxmangregg: found it... that wireless card has issues07:43
SolarisBoyso i think startx >& /home/${USER}/xerrors.log would suffice jungleberrykid07:43
SolarisBoyyou can test it with a command that doesn't crash the box first =)07:43
Lostinspace_46Some pkg questions.  First, what is the difference between pkgA gotten from ubuntu repos, and pkgA gotten from a websight?07:43
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: thank you so much, I will give it a try and let you know.... brb07:43
greggarchboxman: ok... so how can i solve the samba mounting problem?07:43
archboxmangregg: found people using both the module and nsdiwrapper for that card is causing problems with connecitons not samba07:44
greggmy connection seems fine - even samba when i acually get it mounted07:44
SolarisBoyhmm but those errors are indicative of samba executing commands when it shouldn't...07:44
SolarisBoyusually that happends when file handles are still open on mounted shares at shutdown..07:44
Gryphon9Ah can any one help me? im having a problem getting Gnome Do to work, i've installed it but i just can't get it to become the toolbar???07:45
SolarisBoyif it was a connection issue of dropping,, he would like have STALE file handle issues in logs07:45
SolarisBoys/like/likely/07:45
archboxmanSolarisBoy: question is how far are you from this router and computer07:45
SolarisBoyarchboxman: thats should be noted,, however the nature of wireless as stated is up/downy.. there is much overhead involved...07:46
marek_hi, can you help me with apache2 installation?07:46
gregggoing to reboot - brb07:46
marek_how can i allow other computers from my network to access for my local server?07:46
marek_i can see it from localhost07:46
archboxmangregg: there is something known as refraction in wireless terms which means if two signals are sent to the same wifi card in will either bost the signal or degrade the wifi signal07:47
MoatI want to run the source code of perl script...how?07:47
SolarisBoyoverhead that can affect services but not be noticeable to gregg as hes surfing the web or whatever... which is why people would generally not perist network shares on wireless networks...07:47
archboxmanSolarisBoy: what with jungleberrykid ???07:47
SolarisBoyhe can find simply if his connections are dropping alot by doing netstat -s07:48
SolarisBoyjungleberrykid: is going to redirect errors to a log and come back07:48
SolarisBoyi mean archboxman ^07:48
jungleberrykidarchboxman: I've just run startx and redirected standard output like SolarisBoy suggested - it hangs and I am rebooting right now....07:48
archboxmanSolarisBoy: smart move07:48
MoatI want to run the source code of perl script...how?07:48
Gryphon9Ah can any one help me? im having a problem getting Gnome Do to work, i've installed it but i just can't get it to become the toolbar???:(07:49
SolarisBoyMoat: as stated make the file executable or...07:49
SolarisBoyuse path to perl and the file07:49
Moathow?07:49
SolarisBoyMoat: chmod +x <file>07:49
Moat...rite, I'll PM you.07:49
SolarisBoyMoat: or /usr/bin/perl <file>07:49
SolarisBoyMoat: no need thats whats needed07:49
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: log file xerrors.log is empty.... :(07:49
Moathmm07:49
Moatthe file is on my desktop and I named it "Wordly" so whats the command?07:49
SolarisBoyjungleberrykid: maybe the redirect line is wrong =) give me a second..07:49
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: kk07:50
SolarisBoythats why i asked you to test on a another command first.. i forget all the redirect ins/outs i usually just google it07:50
Lostinspace_46Some pkg questions.  First, what is the difference between pkgA gotten from ubuntu repos, and pkgA gotten from a websight?07:50
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: ok, I will google it now...07:50
SolarisBoyjungleberrykid: http://www.mathinfo.u-picardie.fr/asch/f/MeCS/courseware/users/help/general/unix/redirection.html07:50
greggok - getting more and more frustrated - how can i mount my samba shares automatically AFTER my wireless connects? - i'm still only getting 4 out of 7 shares mounting no matter what I put in fstab07:50
SolarisBoygregg: you can use a sleep period in a start script...07:51
greggSolarisBoy: how's that?07:51
archboxmangregg: how far are you from this box.. you need to get closer and elminate problems...07:52
SolarisBoygregg: sleep <until network is ready>; mount <samba share>;  mount <samba share>;  mount <samba share>;  mount <samba share>07:52
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: I've bookmarked this site, thank you - it's an excellent reference! :)07:52
greggarchboxman: I'm about 5 meters from the box07:52
SolarisBoyjungleberrykid: =) np07:52
archboxmangregg: sam room??07:52
SolarisBoygregg: archboxman that is not always the issue..07:52
greggSolarisBoy: ok sorry - you're over my head =)07:52
SolarisBoyas stated... wireless is up/downy07:52
greggi know nothing about start scripts07:52
MoatSolarisBoy, can you answer me?07:53
SolarisBoygregg: i really think all hoopla is because the shares are probably holding large files and some dont all get mounted at boot in the alloted time before they time out...07:53
SolarisBoyMoat: what did you ask?07:53
greggissue is: at boot only 4 out of 7 samba shares mount from fstab - it's always the same 4 - mount -a works after my network comes up, so it MUST be a timing thing, right?07:53
SolarisBoyMoat: ask here07:53
SolarisBoygregg: no07:53
Moatthe file is on my desktop and I named it "Wordly" so whats the command? I want to run a perl script07:53
SolarisBoygregg: sounds like a network thing again07:54
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: I've tested it with ls command and it works - output is successfully written to the file.... I'll give it another try now with startx.... :)07:54
SolarisBoyMoat: chmod +x Wordly and then ./Wordly07:54
SolarisBoyjungleberrykid: k07:54
ddavidspls how do i limit sound to the headphones when connected?07:54
greggSolarisBoy: the shares are holding large files - how to enlarge the timeout then?07:54
archboxmangregg: that is why I want you to elimanate the distance between computers and walls interfering with signal path07:55
SolarisBoygregg: we may need to investigate mount options in samba,, or a nasty dirty way to mount with a script that sleeps until a period time and then mounts all samba,,07:55
alazyworkaholicI am stuck in low-graphics mode. I had fglrx, removed it, & (I think) I installed the xorg-edgers drivers only ppa for the open source driver, but it didn't work. I need a bit of help.07:55
Ari_LazarusHi guys. What does it mean why I use wine on an .exe in terminal and get no response? Is there a particular setting I can try?07:55
SolarisBoywireless switches algorithms/frequncies constantly,, you can be right in the room of the device or not.. wireless is just not the proper transport for certain things,,07:56
greggSolarisBoy: well wired isn't an option unfortunately07:56
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: It worked!! :)07:57
SolarisBoyjungleberrykid: sweet07:57
SolarisBoygregg: ok07:57
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: I have output in the file now.. :)07:57
MoatSolarisBoy07:57
archboxmanSolarisBoy: I agree that is the method of closing the gap in his approach to see a steady signal ..07:57
MoatI'm still having the same problem07:57
SolarisBoygregg: so we need to look at the optiions of moving the smbmounts from fstab and not having them persistent07:57
SolarisBoyMoat: whats the issue now?07:57
neil_dI can't get my sound card to work!  its an "ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)"   anyone know what module should be loaded for this sound card?07:57
Moatchmod: cannot access `Wordly': No such file or directory07:57
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: aaaaaaah.... I think we're getting somewhere now... :)07:57
SolarisBoyMoat: you need to be on the desktop07:57
Lostinspace_46Ari_Lazarus, It is easiest to right click the .EXE icon and pice open with wine07:58
SolarisBoyMoat: cd to where the file is and try again07:58
Moatit's on my desktop so "cd~"?07:58
SolarisBoyno07:58
greggSolarisBoy: ok - where can we put them if not fstab?07:58
SolarisBoythats home desktop is ~/Desktop07:58
KovraI have upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10, my system is almost unusable at the moment. Xorg is using a massive amount of CPU cycles.07:58
Ari_LazarusLostinspace_46: That's what I did initially, I used the terminal when it seemed to do nothing.07:58
SolarisBoygregg: no where or a start script07:58
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: Backtrace: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: dl_open_worker: Assertion '_dl_debug_initialize (0, args->nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed!07:59
greggSolarisBoy: ok - so I need to learn about start scripts ;)07:59
Moatstill having issues SolarisBO07:59
jazzdoes anyone use pidgin!07:59
Lostinspace_46Ari_Lazarus, Hmm, don't know, never had it happen to me07:59
SolarisBoygregg: i suggest you make a script that contains the lines to mount them all as 1 part.. then either add that sript to startup with a sleep value or just call that script when you are sure your network is ready07:59
archboxmanSolarisBoy: what is a dl-open?? will look at google08:00
ZykoticK9Ari_Lazarus, what are you trying to run?08:00
SolarisBoyjungleberrykid: thats an error =)08:00
Tmj31yo08:00
greggSolarisBoy: again, I need to learn about start scripts - you're speaking chinese to me ;)08:00
Tmj31any good places to talk computers08:00
SolarisBoythose are functions in an application jungleberrykid08:00
Ari_LazarusZykoticK9: Quest for Glory IV, but I just realized I might have needed Dosbox instead of WINE :O08:00
MoatSolarisBoy, the file is on my desktop08:00
rwwubottu: anyone | jazz08:00
ubottujazz: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?08:01
Moatand I'm not getting anything08:01
SolarisBoygregg: you simply move the lines like "mount" into a file08:01
SolarisBoyMoat: cd ~/Desktop08:01
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: ok, I will need to google it - means nothing to me... lol08:01
archboxmanSolarisBoy: its a xorg problem08:01
greggSolarisBoy: i got that far - it's auto-running that script at a certain point in time that gets me08:01
archboxmanSolarisBoy: here is the link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/12889108:01
SolarisBoyarchboxman: ahh ,, i see =)08:01
Tmj31can anyone see my msg08:01
archboxmanTmj31: yes08:01
ZykoticK9Ari_Lazarus, well there doesn't appear to be a WineHQ entry for it?  Personally, I've never heard of the series.  Best of luck.08:02
archboxmanTmj31: you registered a nic08:02
SolarisBoyMoat if the file is on your desktop just cd there your desktop is under your home afaik08:02
Viking667morning/afternoon/evening, all.08:02
SolarisBoyhi Viking66708:02
Ari_LazarusZykoticK9: Don't worry about it. It was one of the more popular adventure point-and-clicks back in the early 90s, along with Space Quest, Leisure Suit Larry, and Monkey Island. :)08:03
archboxmanjungleberrykid: did you upgrade ubuntu before the xorg file08:03
jazz1 is there a pidgin channel 2 why does the ruttin facebook pluggin  always disconnects08:03
Viking667Anyone here gone and compiled a kernel for 9.10? I'm having occasional memory allocation issues with 3D programs.08:03
MoatSolarisBoy, the file is "Wordly" and it's on my desktop, What is the command?08:03
ZykoticK9Ari_Lazarus, try in DosBox then < DB is pretty good08:03
jungleberrykidbrb08:03
Ari_LazarusYup, installing now.08:03
SolarisBoygregg: Moat... 1. cd to the desktop.. step 2. chmod +x the file,, if it isn't owned by you use sudo08:04
SolarisBoythats it08:04
Viking667(as long as the user's in the sudoer's file"08:04
greggSolarisBoy: and how to make it run at boot?08:04
SolarisBoythen run ./<file>08:04
SolarisBoygregg add it to  startup services ,, thats in the gui08:04
rwwjazz: 1) yes, /join #pidgin 2) Facebook can do Jabber now, try that instead of the plugin. I believe there are instructions if you click "Pidgin" in the center-bottom of http://www.facebook.com/sitetour/chat.php08:04
Moatsudo: +x: command not found08:04
archboxmanSolarisBoy: your taking on a lot08:04
MoatReally, this is becoming pathetic.08:05
SolarisBoyMoat: not sudo +x chmod +x08:05
greggSolarisBoy: umm, i'm in kubuntu...08:05
SolarisBoysudo chmod +x <file>08:05
Viking667yeah, you gotta be explicit with your commands.08:05
Moatchmod: cannot access `Wordly': No such file or directory08:05
MoatHonestly...08:05
SolarisBoysorry im not used to end users...08:05
Viking667Moat: hm. Where's "Worldly" then?08:05
archboxmangregg: is that user added to the sudo user group??08:05
SolarisBoyheh08:05
Moat"Wordly" is on my desktop08:05
greggarchboxman: what user?08:05
Moatand it's a perl source code, it's saved as a text document08:06
SolarisBoyWorldy simply cd /home/user/desktop08:06
Viking667Moat: thats' why you do what SolarisBoy suggested:08:06
SolarisBoywhere user is you user name08:06
ddavidsTwo newly installed karmic systems, one setup as a print server, the other as a print client. However, I cannot see any of the server's printers from the client.08:06
MoatWhat he said failed08:06
Moatso THERE.08:06
archboxmangregg: do u use the right password for sudo??08:06
Viking667i.e. for me:   $ cd $HOME/Desktop08:06
SolarisBoyfailed where?08:06
greggarchboxman: yes08:06
Viking667ls Worldly08:06
greggarchboxman: where are you going with this?08:06
SolarisBoylol ::face palms::08:06
Viking667SolarisBoy: lol.08:06
Viking667He's not stupid, trust me.08:07
SolarisBoyi know......08:07
SolarisBoy..08:07
archboxmangregg: move that file from desktop to home folder and follow commands08:07
rwwMoat: chmod +x ~/Desktop/Wordly08:07
SolarisBoyrww: nice one08:07
SolarisBoylol08:07
Viking667yup.08:07
jazzrww, thanks once again, also is there a music community? for musicians who use linux?08:07
* Viking667 ^5's rww08:07
SolarisBoygetting right to it...08:07
iwanragaffff08:07
* SolarisBoy slaps rww one too08:07
Viking667f#f#f#f#08:07
Moatnothing happened08:08
ddavidsTwo newly installed karmic systems, one setup as a print server, the other as a print client. However, I cannot see any of the server's printers from the client.08:08
archboxmanlmao08:08
Moatwhy am i not suprised.08:08
SolarisBoylol Moat nothing will08:08
Moat....e-e08:08
SolarisBoyjust do chmod -v +x if you want to see something08:08
iwanragahalooo08:08
ddavidsTwo newly installed karmic systems, one setup as a print server, the other as a print client. However, I cannot see any of the server's printers from the client. pls, can anybody help?08:08
Viking667Moat: now, go run the program:    ~/Desktop/Worldly08:08
SolarisBoyMoat: you need to then run the script... Moat you not payinh attn.. i told you two ways...08:08
rwwMoat: yes, that makes it executable. You'd then run it with "~/Desktop/Wordly" or "perl ~/Desktop/Wordly"08:08
SolarisBoy1. make the  file executable,, 2. execute under perl directly...08:09
Moatk..08:09
rwwjazz: I don't know, unfortunately. The people in #ubuntu-offtopic might.08:09
Viking667those are alternatives, by the way08:09
Cappyanyone alive here?08:09
ddavidsTwo newly installed karmic systems, one setup as a print server, the other as a print client. However, I cannot see any of the server's printers from the client. pls, can anybody help?08:09
Viking667Cappy: naa. we're all dead. What the(*%)@% do YOU think?08:09
ZykoticK9!repeat > ddavids08:09
ubottuddavids, please see my private message08:09
archboxmanlmao08:09
jazzrww,  ty08:10
archboxmanCappy: give me something to work with???08:10
Viking667-ENOBRAIN08:10
SolarisBoytodays me birthday =)08:10
SolarisBoy<--just noticed08:11
archboxmangregg: were are you at.. good bad or ugly???08:11
alazyworkaholicI am stuck in low-graphics mode. I had fglrx, removed it, & (I think) I installed the xorg-edgers drivers only ppa for the open source driver, but it didn't work. I need a bit of help.08:11
greggarchboxman: good - getting there, writing my script08:11
alphacharlie_ i installed gtk+-2.19.but when i'm giving the command pkg-config --modversion gtk+.it's showing 1.2.10.shouldn't that be 2.19.0?08:11
SolarisBoygregg: nice =)08:11
SolarisBoymake sure to put the shabang on top08:12
greggshabang?08:12
Viking667#!/....08:12
archboxmangregg: thats the reply we want to here ... don't leave us in the dark08:12
SolarisBoy#!/bin/bash08:12
Viking667^^^ example08:12
Moatit worked08:12
Moathurrah08:12
Viking667#!/usr/bin/perl <<  is another example08:13
SolarisBoy\0/08:13
Viking667Good. Give yourself a pat on the back08:13
SolarisBoynice work Moat08:13
Moatyaay08:13
SolarisBoywoot08:13
archboxmanSolarisBoy: and Viking667 you cleanded up this mess08:13
user01_can anyone help me making my home server?08:13
SolarisBoyarchboxman: =)08:13
SolarisBoyuser01_: home server? that does what?08:14
MoatIs there an easier way to run perl scripts?08:14
user01_that host my website via ISP08:14
SolarisBoyMoat: easier?08:14
q0_0panyone here able to get gnome-do working with openbox?08:14
user01_how08:14
SolarisBoyMoat: yes /usr/bin/perl <script>08:14
Moatlike a way to make the file auto-execute08:14
Moatlike a program08:14
Moator etc.08:14
Viking667uh, no.08:14
SolarisBoyummm08:14
archboxmanq0_0p: not open box08:14
Viking667That's a really bad idea08:14
SolarisBoywhat does it do?08:15
archboxmanI dont think gnome do runs in openbox give me a second08:15
SolarisBoyyou can put it in cron...08:15
Viking667Moat: If you want to execute the program, then have it execute by hand. Having it execute automatically should only be done when you trust the (1) author, (2) program, and (3) users on that computer.08:15
MoatI made it08:16
Moatlol08:16
Viking667oh, and (4) you know what the *@)( the program does.08:16
SolarisBoyMoat: what does it do?08:16
MoatUh, thats personal >.>08:16
SolarisBoyMoat: you need to run when automatically? at boot up?08:16
Viking667Fine. Run it on your own computers then, and don't kick it off automatically.08:16
Moatno, just have it auto run when i want08:16
SolarisBoyumm...08:17
SolarisBoyyou need to run it manually then...08:17
archboxmanq0_0p: this is all I could find http://www.everyjoe.com/newlinuxuser/openbox-gnome-panel/08:17
q0_0parchboxman, its all good thx for helpin me out08:17
Jamesofurhey, I feel like this should be a relatively easy thing but I can't seem to figure out what the problem is. I have no sound in my browsers with flash (youtube etc) video yes but no sound. Tried uninstalling and reinstalling flash from multiple sources to no luck :( even get an error when I try to install it from adobe's website. Just reinstalled from the package manager and still no sound08:17
archboxmanq0_0p: sorry I use fluxbox08:17
ZykoticK9q0_0p, if you want gnome-do docky, pretty sure that requires a WM with compositing does OpenBox have that?08:18
q0_0pZykoticK9, u can use compositing with xcompmgr08:18
SolarisBoyMoat: if you get a better idea of when you want it to run put it in cron,, given it doesn't break things...08:18
Viking667Moat: when you want== cron.08:18
ZykoticK9q0_0p, well, don't see why it wouldn't work then?  does it drag in lots of Gnome for dependencies?08:19
q0_0parchboxman, i kind of like fluxbox how it's easy to create keybindings08:19
SolarisBoyi think he means when i want like randomly...08:19
Moatk..08:19
q0_0pZykoticK9, http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=32085408:19
SolarisBoybut if you know the times... then yes cron...08:19
q0_0pZykoticK9, yes it drags a lot of gnome dependencies08:19
archboxmanq0_0p: keybindings are not a big deal , but they have there problems like most windows managers08:19
q0_0parchboxman, i dont like openbox keybindings08:20
q0_0parchboxman, but i like how it looks though08:20
q0_0parchboxman, have u tried lxde?08:20
Fill23where to look if i can't find specific resolution?08:20
Fill23for monitor08:20
archboxmanq0_0p: yes its a mess... some of the cpu is eaten up08:21
q0_0parchboxman, how so?08:21
q0_0parchboxman, i like everythign except for its keybindings >_<08:21
archboxmanq0_0p: network manager eats a lot of the cpu...08:21
q0_0parchboxman, u dont have to use nm-applet08:21
q0_0parchboxman, u can use wicd or just bash ^^08:22
alphacharlie_ i installed gtk+-2.19.but when i'm giving the command pkg-config --modversion gtk+.it's showing 1.2.10.shouldn't that be 2.19.0?08:22
greggin my script I have a samba share with a space in it - how do I do the space? I have films\040test - is that wrong?08:22
greggthe share is films test08:22
q0_0parchboxman, u can have network manager working in fluxbox if u wanted to also08:22
archboxmanq0_0p: not sure there ,but that stupid network manager and running it in ubuntu is a bad case08:22
SolarisBoygrep you can put that in quotes i believe08:22
q0_0parchboxman, i'd get rid of it08:22
q0_0parchboxman, i never liked nm-applet08:23
ZykoticK9gregg, try\ with\ just\ the\ backslash08:23
SolarisBoylol i keep calling you grep by accident..08:23
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SolarisBoyi should turn this word completion plug in off in irssi =)08:23
archboxmanq0_0p: I use arch linux so programs are seperate from kernel08:23
q0_0parchboxman, ah08:23
greggZykoticK9: that worked thaanks08:23
q0_0parchboxman, i use arch also08:23
ZykoticK9gregg, glad to help08:23
SolarisBoyo despise net manager08:23
SolarisBoys/o/i08:24
KovraI have upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and my system has become unbarably slow08:24
archboxmanq0_0p: makes life easy running a bsd / slackware install08:24
Viking667yeah. I don't like it either.08:24
greggSolarisBoy: ok - now I have the script and it works - do I have to do a sudo ./samba EVERY time i boot?08:24
SolarisBoygregg no08:24
archboxmanq0_0p: then you should know we can seperate the network manager to background services08:24
SolarisBoygregg: add a sleep line to the top,, and add it to start up services..08:24
coldfire2122what is the best way to back up ubuntu. like a image of the / partition?08:24
SolarisBoyput it somewhere it will stay..08:24
Viking667quick question: how do I update the apt database?08:24
greggSolarisBoy: sleep line?08:24
q0_0parchboxman, yeah in rc.conf08:25
icerootViking667: sudo apt-get update08:25
ZykoticK9Viking667, "sudo apt-get update" ?08:25
Viking667that'll do. Thank you.08:25
SolarisBoygregg: sleep 30 <--is dont do anything for 30 seconds... find a reasonable time that you think your network is settled by...08:25
iceroot!backup | coldfire212208:25
archboxmanq0_0p: I can get fluxbox up in around 2 seconds after boot up08:25
ubottucoldfire2122: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning08:25
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q0_0parchboxman, i believe it08:25
greggSolarisBoy: from the time i login or when?08:25
SolarisBoyput it on top of everything other line in the script (exception of shabang line) and add it to start up08:25
q0_0parchboxman, same with lxde08:25
SolarisBoygregg: login08:25
archboxmanq0_0p: what is your aim with openbox or lxde08:26
q0_0parchboxman, nothing i guess08:26
coldfire2122thanks08:26
q0_0parchboxman, i just like how it looks compared to fluxbox08:26
ClavicepsXBOX72008:26
q0_0parchboxman, but i like flubox's how it's easier08:26
Viking667sheesh. 86 packages to upgrade.08:26
greggSolarisBoy: ok and how do i add th script to startup?08:27
archboxmanq0_0p: it makes life  a bit easier with menu and functions ,but the keybindings are issues based on menu script08:27
Fill23hey guys, what IM client do you use for icq & jabber?08:27
git__qemu rules the world08:27
SolarisBoyin your case likely best to just go to start menu -> preferences -> sessions -> startup tab08:27
ClavicepsNO08:27
Viking667bitlbee/irssi08:27
Claviceps<--- RULES THE WORLD08:27
Viking667ah, shaddup.08:28
ZykoticK9git__, if you CPU supports virtualization try KVM08:28
greggSolarisBoy: i'm in kubuntu, that's probably different...08:28
SolarisBoyViking667: that never worked for me08:28
archboxmanq0_0p: I prefer the 3d desk08:28
ClavicepsAIDS??08:28
Claviceps...08:28
SolarisBoygregg: oh yea it is08:28
FlannelClaviceps: Howdy.  This channel is for Ubuntu support, is there something we can help you with?08:28
Viking667SolarisBoy: works fine for me, except yahoo!08:28
Clavicepsyes08:28
SolarisBoyViking667: =(08:28
xxthinkHow to get vmlinux files of ubuntu 9.0408:28
Clavicepsi had a q08:28
greggSolarisBoy: system settings / autostart?08:28
steven__hello,all08:28
xxthinkI can only find vmlinuz-2.6.28-13-generic on /boot08:28
SolarisBoyViking667: we use jabber at work now,, we use to use irc,, now im forced to use pidgin... =(08:28
Viking667SolarisBoy: if you have a console/xterm/aterm/add-your-own-term then run irssi and bitlbee08:29
Viking667should be fine for jabber.08:29
greggSolarisBoy: if I made a script to unmount all my samba shares at shutdown, you think it MIGHT solve my difs vfs: No response problems??08:29
* archboxman got to run SolarisBoy and Viking667 have fun to much right now.... :)08:29
SolarisBoyi get the bittlbee working all but one thing,, i get these automated pings when i have tickets which are violating SLA,, and i have to answer yes/no,,, the thing about it is when i answer it doesn't see it,, this destroys my metrics,, so08:29
Viking667... just means you'll end up setting up another server on 6667 but that can be tweaked too08:30
SolarisBoyi have to stick pidgin08:30
SolarisBoygregg: certainly08:30
greggcool enough08:30
SolarisBoygregg: i was going to mention this08:30
Viking667automated pings? What're those?08:30
Viking667and "tickets"?08:30
greggcool i'll try it out08:30
SolarisBoyViking667: an application that uses jabber protocols to message me on jabber...08:30
xxthinkHow to get vmlinux files of ubuntu 9.0408:30
xxthinkI can only find vmlinuz-2.6.28-13-generic on /boot08:30
SolarisBoytickets.. "client case/work"08:30
archboxmanSolarisBoy: dont use that i hav it set up for archlinux using dbus.... hmmm not sure if irssi can use dbus the same08:31
neil_dI can't get my sound card to work!  its an "ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)"   how can I fix this?  do I need to remove pulseaudio?08:31
SolarisBoywe usually call messaging someone pinging them08:31
SolarisBoyarchboxman: use what ?08:31
Flannelxxthink: 2.6.28 is 9.0408:31
archboxmanSolarisBoy: arch linux not ubuntu that is a difference in systems for irssi and notify and ping....08:32
rwwxxthink: vmlinuz files are just compressed vmlinux files. What do you need them for?08:32
SolarisBoyoh right,, i dont know if it does,, i know pidgin can...08:32
SolarisBoywell other systems use other messaging systems than dbus right?08:33
jjulianhi im having some problems with the grep programm in ubuntu: i call it like this: grep '^.*(SEPERATED1|SEPERATED2|SEPERATED3|SEPERATED4){1}.*(ANDTHIS){1}.*$' my.csv and it just gives me every line. but i want only lines with the SPERATED1-4 (one of them) and with "ANDTHIS" how comes that it just matches every line?08:34
SolarisBoyso irssi on those systems would likely use whatever they use for notice08:34
paulhomebushey guys what the best solution to some of my kernel headers not workin?08:34
SolarisBoyjjulian: that means the patter isn't right08:34
SolarisBoyjjulian: actually you need to try -P08:34
archboxmanSolarisBoy: Debian combines both xorg and dbus that is why boot times are so high... messaging is handled by notify and upstart with grub2 is in place my arch linux gives us the option of installs08:34
SolarisBoyand use double qoutes08:34
jjulianive some tools like regexbuddy it seems to work good there08:34
KovraI am using an intel based graphics card mysystem has become unusably slow after upgrading to 9.10 anyone know a solution?08:34
SolarisBoyjjulian: that grep is not using that type of regex unless you tell it08:34
greggSolarisBoy: gonna test it - brb ;)08:35
SolarisBoygregg: K08:35
SolarisBoygregg: ..08:35
jjulianSolarisBoy: which regex is grep using?08:35
greggpoop already08:35
SolarisBoynot that type.. if you want to use that....08:35
SolarisBoyuse grep -P08:35
SolarisBoyor egrep08:35
xxthinkrww: I want to use oprofile on ubuntu08:35
greggSolarisBoy: i tried the samba stop script - i get error after error that the device or ressource is busy08:35
boxloverHi - I'm having a problem with UNR 9.10 - I've created a bootable USB, but part way through boot it hangs and says "Can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow". I found this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1306277.html - which says that disabling persistent storage will fix the problem - It does, but now I don't have any storage. How can I get UNR to boot *with* my persistent storage on the USB?08:35
SolarisBoygregg this is why i just called your name..08:36
greggSolarisBoy: but i don't know what it's busy WITH08:36
boxlover(Bootable USB was created with the Windows usb-creator.exe on the UNR 9.10 CD)08:36
SolarisBoyyou need to force umount,, and you need to cd out of all those directories if you are in them...08:36
q0_0parchboxman, u can get 3d desktop working with fluxbox?08:36
SolarisBoyso in your script,, ensure that is the case..08:36
Flanneljjulian: just a little note on the regexp, {1} is redundant, and you could do seperated(1|2|3|4) as well (although I suspect that bit may have been placeholders for other stuff)08:36
xxthinkrww : do you know how to get it?08:36
greggSolarisBoy: i was using Krusader - i've exited it - the mounts aren't open anywhere else08:36
greggI suddenly think Krusader is my problem08:37
thevorHey I am having problems with Avant Windows Manager (AWN), and was looking for help. Basically I am having problems with themes. Whenever I download them and try to load them through awn, it says "invalid file format". Every tutorial I have read online says that it needs to be tar.gz, and all the theme packages I have are tar.gz. Does anyone have any ideas about this?08:37
jjulianFlannel: right. its a bit more complicated so i just skipped that out :D08:37
SolarisBoygregg: k.. and force umount,, the issue you are getting they are busy when you umount normally,, is same issue you get when you reboot...08:37
greggSolarisBoy: yep - how do i force umount?08:37
SolarisBoyso you need to kill the process holding it,, force unmount,..08:37
SolarisBoy-f08:37
archboxmanq0_0p: yes 3d desk works just haven't automated the procedure08:37
q0_0parchboxman, i did not know u could do that with fluxbox that is cool08:38
gregghmm - i need to find the process holding it then08:38
archboxmanq0_0p: yes, not sure on all the options I cloud play with in 3d desk08:38
greggOMG YOU ARE KIDDING ME08:38
SolarisBoygregg thats preferable because maybe you can find the _ROOT_CAUSE_ as pose to this script work around..08:38
greggSolarisBoy: I found the problem and I want to say nasty words =)08:39
archboxmanq0_0p: running a 7300 gt nvidia to run 3d desk and compiz08:39
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q0_0parchboxman, ah08:39
SolarisBoygregg: =) what was it holding it?08:39
q0_0parchboxman, nice08:39
rwwxxthink: If you're not doing kernel profiling, you can apparently just use "opcontrol --no-vmlinux". If you are, I'll go check if a package somewhere has it, otherwise you'd have to recompile the kernel (which is outside of my area of expertise)08:39
Claviceps#xbox720 on EFNET08:39
greggSolarisBoy: it's the plasmoid showing my home folder08:39
ddavidspls, i have a problem wt my system, i connected to a network but i have a strange ip address which is making it impossible for me to view the network or print, what can i do08:39
ZykoticK9archboxman, you aren't talking about Compiz Cube though right - your talking about a 3D Desk program correct?08:39
archboxmanq0_0p: going to replace with gt 24008:39
SolarisBoygregg: plasmoid?08:39
greggSolarisBoy: kde4 widget08:39
q0_0parchboxman, have u tried 3ddesktop by chance?08:39
obscurant1sthttp://pastie.org/836456 in this the total number of cylinders shown is 30401 but the extended partition ends in 30402, can i just change the cylinder num to 30401?08:40
xxthinkrww: ok, thank you. I only what to profiling my app.08:40
archboxmanZykoticK9: I know what 3d desk is08:40
xxthinkrww: thank you very much08:40
jazzcan some one please link me the pastebin url?08:40
q0_0parchboxman, http://linuxreviews.org/features/3ddesktop/#toc508:40
SolarisBoyoh yes.. becareful with all these little extras.. sometimes they dont play nice with standard processes08:40
greggSolarisBoy: it showed my home folder, and my samba shares were mounted in folders in /home08:40
q0_0parchboxman, i wasn't sure if they were using compiz08:40
SolarisBoybut that holding open your desktop..08:40
Flanneljazz: http://paste.ubuntu.com08:40
SolarisBoyahh i see..08:40
rwwxxthink: no problem, glad to help :)08:40
ZykoticK9archboxman, actually i was just asking you a question, i think you just gave the answer ;)08:40
jazzFlannel,  thanks08:40
greggSolarisBoy: anyway everything is umounted - gonna see if i can reboot no problems08:40
greggbrb08:40
SolarisBoygregg: yea thats actually a great find08:40
archboxmanZykoticK9: I am using 3d desk yes08:40
SolarisBoyshould pat urself on back =)08:40
archboxmanZykoticK9: had to watch a youtube video to figure out what 3d desk was08:41
ZykoticK9archboxman, oh i've seen it a long time ago -- in my gentoo days :)08:41
ZykoticK9archboxman, when i ran fluxbox08:41
obscurant1stsomebody? :o08:41
SolarisBoy;@08:41
ChronosXjoin #iphone08:42
SolarisBoy#iphone.. really ? =) ..08:42
* SolarisBoy check this out08:42
archboxmanZykoticK9: interesting ???? never ran gentoo I know most gentoo users say arch linux is easier to install no compiling kernel08:42
ZykoticK9SolarisBoy, i'm guessing it must be ##iphone08:42
rwwBroken slash key? There's an app for that!08:42
* trollboy writes SlashApp!08:43
SolarisBoyoh,, i thought ircd usually redirects you when your missing a #08:43
archboxmanq0_0p: Yes 3d desk is running not sure how to rotate in the other way I seen on youtube yet08:43
rwwSolarisBoy: nope, it's sometimes done manually by a channel operator. It's not automatic.08:43
q0_0parchboxman, is it less bloated then compiz?08:43
SolarisBoyrww: ooooo =) cool thanks i thought it was the server side08:43
SolarisBoyor possibly even irrsi08:44
obscurant1stis there any other command resizing extended partitions?or that?08:44
archboxmanq0_0p: by far, but it does n't allow for the command over it like compiz... that is why I have to play with 3d desk and auto start before I know for sure...08:44
bullgard[Gnome] Passwords and Encryption Keys > Passwords shows two lines: "Passwords: default" and "Passwords: login". Both do not show an Key ID. How can I still set up the Empathy program using my Jabber ID 'bullgard4@jabber.ccc.de' and its password  which works all right on another Ubuntu computer?08:45
SolarisBoyobscurant1st: resizing a standard partition or something on maybe lvm?08:45
obscurant1stooops, sorry, i mean to ask, is there any command for resizing extended partitions?08:45
obscurant1stSolarisBoy, http://pastie.org/836456 in this /dev/sda408:45
archboxmanq0_0p: way behind most users in arch linux that is why I sit here and deal with command line interface and problems or I would have them install hardinfo and call it a day08:45
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archboxmanq0_0p: took me 5 days to install arch linux...08:46
SolarisBoyobscurant1st: parted/gparted maybe?08:46
SolarisBoyarchboxman: really? the install was breezy for me08:46
q0_0parchboxman, yikes08:47
obscurant1stgparted made me into this situation. :( see the total number of cylinders and the number of cylinder on which /dev/sda4 ends08:47
archboxmanSolarisBoy: stuck with it ... never really liked cli ... not for a minutue , but got respect for it in the arch linux install08:47
alphacharlie_how to go back to the previous directory in terminal/08:47
archboxmanq0_0p: lol08:47
samebchasecd ..08:48
SolarisBoyarchboxman: yea it was a trend for me,,quickly got out of the whole arch thing08:48
alphacharlie_thanks08:48
obscurant1stSolarisBoy, i could try parted08:48
SolarisBoyobscurant1st: i see08:48
q0_0parchboxman, it took me forever to install gentoo08:48
SolarisBoyobscurant1st: well parted/gparted .. same diff08:48
SolarisBoyjust one with a gui08:48
obscurant1stSolarisBoy, oh!08:48
archboxmanq0_0p: and SolarisBoy that is why I am holding out on slackware until I master the terminal... lol08:49
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samebchasealphacharlie: The Unix Programming Environment is quita a good book.08:49
SolarisBoyarchboxman: =)08:49
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obscurant1stSolarisBoy, yeah tey are the same, coz parted does not recognize my partitions, just like gparted08:49
obscurant1st:(08:49
linduxedok why is it that i can log in to an ftp server when i type "ftp://user@server-ip" in firefox and then provide the password, but can't when i do "ftp user@server-ip" and then provide the same password08:49
linduxedin firefox it works, from the commandline it doesn't08:50
q0_0parchboxman, what's good about slackware compared to arch? that last time i remember slackware didn't have a repos for stuff and install stuff through installpkg or was it pkginstall08:50
SolarisBoyobscurant1st: what did you do in the first place with parted?08:50
archboxmanSolarisBoy: have used zenwalk ,but that is a baby of slackware I here08:50
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obscurant1sti resized and moved 2 partitions, and then my system became unbootable08:50
Guest4519Salve a tutti08:50
SolarisBoyim not into those minimalist things =) either opensolaris/debian_ubuntu for me on desktop08:50
rww!it | Guest451908:50
ubottuGuest4519: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)08:50
git__is there a filesystem snapshot for Linux?08:51
SolarisBoyi may fool with it in a VM but never out and full08:51
archboxmanq0_0p: just arch linux is based off of some of the ideas of slackware want to explore last stop before I have made a goo around of all types of distro's08:51
SolarisBoygit__: yes depends on the fs08:51
Myrtti!offtopic | archboxman, q0_0p08:51
ubottuarchboxman, q0_0p: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!08:51
git__SolarisBoy, ext408:52
archboxmanMyrtti: give me the people and we will go at helping08:52
SolarisBoyi dont think ext uses fs snapshot features atleast ext308:52
Myrttiarchboxman: no-one to help with is no excuse to go offtopic08:52
jungleberrykidHEY - I FIXED IT!!! I am once again booting to X!!! YAAAAAAAAAAY!!!08:53
git__snapshot on top of a filesystem unlike block size snapshot like zumastor08:53
SolarisBoyzfs08:53
seonhello, how to create a link in the main menu for a software ?08:53
SolarisBoyi think if you put the FS on LVM you can do snaps as well08:53
SolarisBoyon ext308:53
git__lvm only does whole filesystem snapshot08:54
ZykoticK9seon, System / Preference / Main Menu08:54
git__is there a delta based filesystem snapshot08:54
SolarisBoyso looks like you dont have that option on ext308:54
SolarisBoyzfs does08:54
jungleberrykidSPECIAL THANKS to SolarisBoy and archboxman for all your help and assistance! I GREATLY appreciate it! :)08:54
git__for example, i would like it to take a snapshot of a directory in an increment of one hour08:54
SolarisBoyjungleberrykid: any time =)08:54
SolarisBoygit__:  i understand,, not on ext3 via the fs08:55
SolarisBoyor ext408:55
rwwseon: right-click the menu applet on the panel, click Edit Menus, and use the "New Menu" or "New Item" buttons as needed :)08:55
greggSolarisBoy: the script didn't startup... *sigh*08:55
SolarisBoygregg: have you defined the exact location of script, and made it executable?08:55
greggSolarisBoy: yep08:55
SolarisBoyok08:56
seonnothing happen when i click on "main menu" or "edit menus" but the others are ok08:56
SolarisBoydid it not start or did it error out?08:56
archboxmanSolarisBoy: into what ever works with the greats possible solutions... right now arch linux makes sense with linux mint on laptop for google desktop... :)08:56
greggSolarisBoy: it's owned by root - maybe that's the problem?08:56
seonstrange08:56
SolarisBoygregg: i dont think,, you can repermission them08:57
archboxmangregg: you put the script inside of the root owner ship??08:57
SolarisBoywhere you able to run it fine manually?08:57
greggtrying now - the answer is maybe (I have the sleep going on for 45 seconds08:57
GryllidaCan Gparted resize NTFS partitions?08:58
SolarisBoyarchboxman: i feel ya =)08:58
greggummm, sleep 45 is seconds right?08:58
SolarisBoyyes08:58
archboxmangregg: impossible because the root is not accessible08:58
greggarchboxman: huh?08:59
SolarisBoyi think you may be erroring out because you would usually need to be root to mount something either or.. i failed to think about it...08:59
Jamesofuranyone available to help me try and figure out why flash doesn't have sound? :) (or even better seen it and know how to fix it :/)08:59
greggSolarisBoy: sudo ./script works fine08:59
SolarisBoygregg and that may be the issue...08:59
GryllidaSorry, can Gparted resize NTFS partitions?08:59
cjsI need to move an installation from a small disk to a larger one. It's a boot and LUKS crypto partition, the crypto containing an LVM with root and swap volumes. Any thoughts on how I should go about this?09:00
greggSolarisBoy: ok - i can change ownership, that's fine, but since the script is full of sudo commands, how do i take care of that?09:00
SolarisBoysudo is interactive... and if you need to type sudo to execute a command,, it likely should be run by root,,09:00
SolarisBoyif in a script09:00
archboxmanSolarisBoy: its funny the archlinux chatroom doesn't want the newbies to know they venture out to explore the new ideas with upstart , udev and grub2 they want to seem separate form the idea of progress09:00
greggSolarisBoy: right - i need to tell the script what my sudo password is somehow right?09:00
SolarisBoybecause the script is not open to accept your input at boot time,, its not running in a terminal either09:00
bullgard[Gnome] Passwords and Encryption Keys > Passwords shows two lines: "Passwords: default" and "Passwords: login". Both do not show an Key ID. How can I still set up the Empathy program using my Jabber ID 'bullgard4@jabber.ccc.de' and its password  which works all right on another Ubuntu computer?09:01
SolarisBoygregg,, nope... unless you want to learn to use expect tonight =)09:01
greggSolarisBoy: it's 10am here, got plenty of time ;)09:01
SolarisBoymaybe you can put it in roots crontab.. ?? hmm09:01
SolarisBoynot sur09:01
archboxmanSolarisBoy: ubuntu and grub2 and udev effects all of linux though ... :)09:01
SolarisBoyarchboxman: naturally09:02
greggSolarisBoy: so my option is running it manually at startup???09:02
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SolarisBoyi think there is a group of those who can mount devices...09:03
archboxmanSolarisBoy: whats next you going to piggy back ride ubuntu on progress and say you helped with the project or was it the 1 million users of ubuntu as gyunie pigs...09:03
GryllidaMy question above ...09:04
SolarisBoylol at ubuntu users being ginue pigs.. lol09:04
SolarisBoyhehehehe =)09:04
jungleberrykidOk, I have a whole new issue to tackle now! lol09:04
cjsIs there a channel for discussing LVM stuff?09:05
SolarisBoyarchboxman: i didn't mean it like that,, i mean that linux derived operating systems would naturally be effected by "Linux"....09:05
archboxmanSolarisBoy: its true ... that is why there are so many problems with ubuntu 9.10 and grub2 ...09:05
SolarisBoycjs: what type of lvm stuff,, lvm on  ubuntu?09:05
jungleberrykidI booted to LiveCD and copied the entire /etc/X11 folder over to my boot partition... it now boots to xubuntu (Xfce) which works and is fine....09:05
Gryllidacjs: #lvm09:05
cjsSolarisBoy: On Ubuntu, but it's probably getting a bit technical, since I'm trying to copy a configuration, more or less.09:05
kaos_en_redi need asterix for ubuntu09:05
archboxmanjungleberrykid: what is the solution with gnome??09:05
jungleberrykidNow when I edit my boot line parameters and attempt to boot to single user mode - I do not get a command prompt?09:05
SolarisBoycjs lvm has tools to backup configuration and restore...09:06
jungleberrykidarchboxman: ^ ^09:06
archboxmanjungleberrykid: did you take down gnome??09:06
indusjungleberrykid, how are you booting to single user mode09:06
cjsSolarisBoy: Oh? Would these be suitable for having the original and the restored version connected to the same system at the same time?09:06
indusjungleberrykid, with -S09:06
indus?09:06
indus!boot09:06
ubottuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto09:06
SolarisBoycjs: clarify this...09:07
SolarisBoycjs: that wont work technically because how could to lvms use the same disks, pvs, vgs etc...09:07
jungleberrykidarchboxman: I'm not sure if I did take down gnome or not. All I did was rename my original /etc/X11 folder and copy the same folder from LiveCD boot over and it booted to xubuntu now (Xfce)!09:07
SolarisBoys/to/two/09:07
cjsI have the disk that used to be in my laptop in an external USB case. I have a new disk in my laptop. I want to copy the entire Linux config from the USB disk to the new internal disk, thought  the parititions are different sizes.09:08
jungleberrykidindus: I add the word 'single' to my linux kernel line in Grub boot menu09:08
GryllidaExcuse me, can Gparted resize NTFS partitions?09:08
bullgardApplications > Accessories > Passwords and Encryption Keys > Passwords show 2 lines: "Passwords:default" and "Passwords:login". What is the function or purpose of these 2 lines?09:08
archboxmanjungleberrykid: wow ... ur kiddy right :) lol09:08
cjsAnd I  don't want to touch anything on the external disk until the new internal one is working.09:08
jungleberrykidarchboxman: I was amazed but it worked! lol09:08
realsifo777hello09:08
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archboxmanjungleberrykid: did you look at the bottom of the gdm and see if gnome is an option???09:09
steven__something?09:09
cjsSolarisBoy: I'm familiar with lots of different volume management systems, but not more than generally familiar with LVM.09:09
jungleberrykidarchboxman: how exactly do I do that?09:09
SolarisBoyi use mainly on other than ubuntu systems but familiar,, its way past topic so i guess you  would be more beneficial i #lvm09:10
SolarisBoy=)09:10
archboxmanjungleberrykid: log out look at session after you click the user.... to login with .... don't enter password09:10
jungleberrykidarchboxman: oh right, ok.... 1 sec....09:10
archboxmanjungleberrykid: there should be a choice at the bottom of screen09:10
archboxmanjungleberrykid: you still have gdm right??09:10
boxloverHi - I'm having a problem with UNR 9.10 - I've created a bootable USB, but part way through boot it hangs and says "Can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow". I found this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1306277.html - which says that disabling persistent storage will fix the problem - It does, but now I don't have any storage. How can I get UNR to boot *with* my persistent storage on the USB? I created the bootable09:11
xxthinkrww: I use oprofile with --no-vmliux option on ubuntu09:11
xxthinkBut I can't get the result09:11
archboxmanboxlover: is this a netbook and type???09:12
xxthinkrww: I got the following error09:12
xxthinkopreport error: basic_string::erase09:12
rwwxxthink: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?09:13
xxthink 2.6.28-13-generic09:13
archboxmanjungleberrykid: where you at with this??09:13
SolarisBoycjs: you can also recreate the LVM on the new disk and just migrate the data.. are both the disks exactly the same why move the lvm config?09:13
jungleberrykidarchboxman: yes, gdm still works - I don't have option for gnome09:13
rwwGryllida: yes, assuming you have the ntfs-tools package installed09:14
xxthink2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 19:49:51 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux09:14
Gryllidarww: is this package installed by default?09:14
SolarisBoyGryllida: nope09:14
rwwGryllida: sorry, ntfsprogs, not ntfs-tools09:14
xxthinkrww : 9.0409:14
jungleberrykidarchboxman: I am actually quite tempted at this point to uninstall Xfce and re-install gnome instead because I am more familiar with it.09:14
archboxmanjungleberrykid: its gone or on the hard drive just eliminated the choice go to termianl locate gnome09:14
Gryllidarww: is this package present in the partition tool in Ubuntu installator?09:15
rwwxxthink: Ah. It's a known bug that was fixed in 9.10: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oprofile/+bug/31082409:15
rwwGryllida: I think so, but I don't have the means to check right now.09:15
SolarisBoyGryllida: its in repos...09:15
jungleberrykidarchboxman: none of my tty sessions work. On Alt-F1 I see the boot commands and Alt-F7 I have X. All the others jjust show a blinking cursor - no option to login to console....09:15
archboxmanjungleberrykid: understand , must slow down install of gnome and give a least a minumim of a restart every time you install a new os or operation...09:15
jungleberrykidarchboxman: how do I fix this?09:15
SolarisBoyjungleberrykid: could it be permission issue?09:16
realsifo777hello09:16
archboxmanboxlover: WHATS UP WITH THIS UNR09:16
jungleberrykidSolarisBoy: how would I check whether it's a permission issue?09:16
Gryllidarww: I mean I am going to install Ubuntu along with Windows. Shall I go to live CD and install the missing package, then shrink existing partition through Gparted, or should I just go straight to the installation?09:16
SolarisBoyls -l /dev/tty*09:16
rwwGryllida: Just use the installer to shrink it...09:16
Gryllida!hi | realsifo77709:16
ubotturealsifo777: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!09:16
Gryllidarww: thanks09:17
archboxmanjungleberrykid: at this point I would say a reinstall and reboot after every upgrade is a good idea to narrow path of system vs wifi...09:17
jungleberrykidarchboxman: I DO have GNOME - I had to enter my username first before I saw that option!!!! :D09:17
baueri hvae installed ubuntu-desktop and would like to add the server software to the installation. How to :O)09:18
realsifo777thanks. i have problem with intel x3100 and compiz. its frezee09:18
MyrttiGryllida: unfragment the ntfs in windows first though09:18
GryllidaMyrtti: I have read about this in the documentation. Thanks for the remind.09:18
realsifo777i can't actived my compiz09:18
archboxmanjungleberrykid: deal with one problem at a time will it load or freeze your dragging me and SolarisBoy all over the windows manager and desktop universe...09:19
SolarisBoylol09:19
GryllidaMyrtti: are you also sure that the installer can shrink NTFS partition?09:19
archboxmanSolarisBoy: the next thing you know we will be in openbox...09:19
realsifo777is there any intel propriertary driver for linux?09:20
cjsSolarisBoy: (Let's discuss this on #lvm if you like; it's much less busy.) No, both disks are not the same. The partitions containing the PV are a different size, the logical volumes within the partitions are a different size, and I'm thinking I might as well change the FS from ext3 to ext4 while I'm at it.09:20
MyrttiGryllida: I don't have personal experience on the subject09:20
GryllidaMyrtti: thanks for attention!09:20
SolarisBoyok cjs09:20
baueri have installed ubuntu-desktop and would like to add the server software to the installation. How to :O)09:20
archboxmancjs: what is your goal with having both a lvm on board with ext3 or ext4???09:21
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archboxmancjs: if it is being able to read all files the lvm should go it is a red hat thing...09:21
archboxmanor was that a fedora cant remember...09:22
Guest4751Is it alright to install the regular desktop Ubuntu on a netbook or am I restricted to UNR?09:22
rwwGuest4751: regular Ubuntu will work absolutely fine.09:22
Guest4751Thanks09:23
brand0nanyone know why a folder i share on my windows partition wont stay shared09:23
rwwGuest4751: UNR and regular Ubuntu just use a different interface; underneath, they're the same thing09:23
brand0nit does on my other computer just fine but it unshares whenever i reboot09:23
Guest4751I figured it just had bigger buttons. I should do fine on my 12".09:23
archboxmancjs: fedora's idea of patch job for system upgrades and packages is in development and not a strong source of fedora at this time with the launch of udev and grub2 there focus is away from lvm at this point..09:24
FaithfulGuest4751, The interface is a bit different09:24
brand0nanyone know why a folder i share on my windows partition wont stay shared09:24
brand0nit does on my other computer just fine but it unshares whenever i reboot09:24
soreaurealsifo777: No, there is no proprietary intel driver. This is a known problem with karmic on some intel cards, compiz will cause a freeze. If you would like, you can try latest drivers using the xorg-edgers repo09:25
soreaurealsifo777: You probably would want to couple the latest drivers with a latest kernel from ppa repo09:25
ftabis there any good tool available for Regular Expressions except Kiki ?09:26
archboxmanSolarisBoy: I think I love this josie maran ... I would marry here ....wow what a body... if there are more then 110 on a asfab I would marry her...09:27
acusterHey all, who is responsible for the docs on ubuntu.com, e.g. https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html ?09:28
cjsarchboxman: I just reckoned that since new vesrsions of Ubuntu are now using ext4, I might as well get my 9.04 system using it, too.09:28
acusterthat page needs love, the situation is pissing off users, and I'd like to add at least a warning to the page09:28
cjsAlso, I'm on an SSD; there may be some parameters there I should be looking at. Do I really want a journal?09:28
archboxmancjs: it has its good and bad09:28
archboxmancjs: home computer??09:29
septim_what is pointer?09:29
cjsarchboxman: i don't understand your question.09:29
Gryllidaseptim_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointer09:30
archboxmancjs: if this is your home computer suggest a backups on regular times .... ext4 is out and new....09:30
B|aSSok folks this is a tips that i wanna share to beginner like me09:31
B|aSSlinux is very secure yes09:31
septim_Gryllida: thx09:31
archboxmancjs: you are playing with new designs like much of my arch linux conterparts... backups are a must...09:31
B|aSSbut you run flash on it to go see youtube.com and that kind of stuff09:32
B|aSSso then09:32
filgyany idea why i have to keep restarting FF to get audio with flash? I have to close FF then pulseaudio -k; sudo alsa reload to get it back09:32
B|aSSremove the F****** flash cahe out09:32
filgyI already did http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78957809:32
B|aSSsince i found clam was detecting craps from firefox09:32
archboxmanlshal -s give me a break down of all for audio filgy09:33
B|aSSto go that go there: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager03.html09:33
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Cappy1300 people and no chit chat, i think something is broken09:33
archboxmanB|aSS: like that idea too filgy ....09:33
B|aSSwhat u mean09:34
B|aSSarchboxman09:34
filgyarchboxman: http://www.pastebin.com/m741b1baf09:34
archboxmanB|aSS: cache in flash must go09:34
B|aSSyeap09:34
filgymaybe that's it09:34
B|aSSclam was detecting crap in there09:34
B|aSSi was wondering wtf09:34
rwwB|aSS: Starred out cursing and acronyms that use bad language are not welcome in this channel.09:35
B|aSSoh ok09:35
archboxmanfilgy: all the oss and pulseaudio drivers are laoded why???09:35
filgyarchboxman: dunno why oss is.. shouldn't PA be loaded?09:36
archboxmanfilgy: maybe upstart and ubuntu not sure on there new operations of install...09:37
filgyi shouldn't even have oss installed..09:37
bauerhowto get ubuntu-server installed via apt-get ?09:37
archboxmanfilgy: your not the only one I also have oss installed and didn't intend on this driver09:37
ddavidspls i need help to watch videos in youtube...09:38
archboxmanddavids: load flash09:39
enkiduddavids: old machine / new one?09:39
xbmchi09:39
ddavidsnew install09:39
ddavidsnew machine09:39
archboxmanapt-cache search flash find file and apt-get install09:39
soreauddavids: Install flashplugin-nonfree09:39
ddavidssoreau: how pls?09:40
filgyi just nuked flash cache, hopefully that fixes it.. when i followed the steps in that link i pasted above to nuke PA configs and recreate it worked fine for awhile then went tits up again09:40
archboxmansoreau: remember the name of the flash plugin09:40
soreauddavids: apt-get install09:40
soreauddavids: After installing this package, restart your browser and it should work09:40
archboxmanfilgy: what is your cpu??09:41
ddavidssoreau: im on it, thanks09:41
filgyarchboxman: 32bit p409:41
ddavidsanother thing pls, how do i keep my ip from changing arbitrarily...especially when i log into irc09:41
archboxmanhmm... wow shouldn't be a cpu or graphics problem...09:42
archboxmanddavids: what you running a proxy??09:42
ddavidsno09:42
filgyit's working good now.. the problem used to start if i would leave a flash video paused or something for a while.. then i'd have to restart FF and kill PA/reload alsa..09:42
ddavidsno proxy09:42
archboxmanddavids: its using the isp router for login at irc...09:43
enkiduguys, here is something funny http://pastebin.org/9519309:43
archboxmanddavids: not the home terminal behind the router...09:43
ddavidsarchboxman: does tht means it doesnt really change?09:44
filgyddavids: anytime your modem drops or anything you will have a new ip from your isp unless you buy a static ip09:44
archboxmanddavids: yes because they don't know the router only the box outside the router logining in09:44
archboxmanddavids: that is why I use irssi gives me everyones defualt router to see if it is static or dhcp...09:45
perfectionhey, i have a question, does transmission bittorrent in anyway support magnetic links?09:46
filgyperfection: i think the newest version of it does09:46
archboxmanperfection: yes09:46
perfectionokay thanks, was wondering if i got to change to anotherprogram or what09:47
filgyperfection: i don't think the version of transmission that comes with karmic supports it however09:47
archboxmanperfection:  magnetic links are those without spy's need to make sure there is a feeder for the file you download09:47
filgyi could be wrong though09:47
cjsarchboxman: I have backups out the wazoo. Most of my important data is actually in git or svn repos, anyway.09:48
perfectionfilgy: there is no support for magnetic with the 1 that comes with karmic09:48
archboxmancjs: great idea for so much flexible installs you run...09:48
xxthinkrww: is there some method to run oprofile on ubuntu 9.0409:48
filgyperfection: that's what i thought.. newer versions do whoever09:48
archboxmanlook at this cjs http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&index=blended&field-keywords=Thermaltake%20BlacX&tag=smtfx1-2009:49
egaphi. Just trying09:49
archboxmanegap: your here09:49
archboxmanSolarisBoy: you around or head to bed09:51
Fill23what would you recomend for .mkv playback?09:52
enkiduFill23: smplayer09:52
enkiduvlc09:52
enkiduxine09:52
perfectionguys another thing is how do i get engines that are used in themes? the likes of murrina, etc. i cant rememba them now09:52
perfectionFill23: vlc09:53
ouyeshi all09:53
Fill23thx09:53
archboxmannote to users if you plan on using cutting edge software or developemental pls seek backups....09:53
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xxthinkrww: is there some method to run oprofile on ubuntu 9.0409:54
Cappyevening folks!09:54
xbmc23 Feb 07:54:59 ntpdate[1835]: no servers can be used, exiting09:55
xbmcxbmc@000c762097c3:~$09:55
xbmcwhat does that mean no servers can be used09:55
usuarioHOLA09:56
archboxmanxxthink: thats interesting ... is that to go hand in hand with ati graphics cards??09:56
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xxthinkarchboxman: ati graphics cards?09:57
xxthinkarchboxman: sorry09:57
xxthinkarchboxman: what's the meaing?09:57
xxthinkarchboxman: what's the meaning?09:57
usuariohola pardillos09:58
Guest60693hey09:58
Guest60693need some help with ntpdate09:58
archboxmanxxthink: oprofile yes, ati graphics has problems with running games with shading issues at times and overloads cpu processes... so is oprofile a solution to ati graphics card???09:58
Guest60693dad@mythserver:~$ ntpdate09:58
Guest6069322 Feb 20:37:53 ntpdate[17547]: no servers can be used, exiting09:58
oSiRiDe`r0x1ciao09:59
Guest60693I have servers selcted sowhy it say no severs can be used09:59
oSiRiDe`r0x1!list09:59
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xxthinkarchboxman: I want to run oprofile on ubuntu 9.0409:59
archboxmanxxthink: understand ,but its a suse option and suse in the lead for graphics card support over ati...10:00
rob_pGuest60693: You need to specify the server you want ntpdate to use.  Ex: ntpdate time.ntp.org10:00
soreauarchboxman: ask in #radeon10:00
Klaposomeone can tell me,how can I add backslashe's to.. eg "[name][123]" expect output \[name\]\[123\] in bash?10:00
cjsarchboxman: I even keep my Gnome configuration under revision control, though that appears to be a losing game. (It's as if the bastards designed it not to work with revision control.)10:00
bullgardApplications > Accessories > Passwords and Encryption Keys > Passwords show 2 lines: "Passwords:default" and "Passwords:login". What is the function or purpose of these 2 lines?10:01
archboxmansoreau: no need just a small question to enlighten that cjs maybe playing around with a new idea to limit the ATI graphics card to a normal process instead of overloading cpu...10:02
indusbullgard, diff passwords for diff things10:02
naoshige# apt-get reinstall libxml210:02
naoshigeE: Invalid operation reinstall10:02
naoshigewhat's up with that?10:02
indusbullgard,can have a diff one for network too10:02
naoshigei'm trying to "gem install nokogiri" but it can't find libxml2 even tho libxml2 is installed..10:02
indusnaoshige, sudo apt-get install --reinstall libxml210:02
soreauarchboxman: well I guess there is no need for an answer, either10:02
naoshigechecking for libxml/parser.h in /opt/local/include/,/opt/local/include/libxml2,/opt/local/include,/opt/local/include,/opt/local/include/libxml2,/usr/local/include,/usr/local/include/libxml2,/usr/include,/usr/include/libxml2,/usr/include,/usr/include/libxml2... no10:02
bullgardindus: Can you be more specific and more precise.10:02
naoshigelibxml2 is missing.10:02
naoshigethanks indus10:02
naoshigeindus: but you gotta agree, apt-get reinstall libxml2 would be a LOT more convenient right?10:03
indusnaoshige, yes10:03
naoshigethat's like saying yes --YES I REALLY MEAN IT i really want to have sex with you girl10:03
naoshigeor something to that effect10:03
archboxmansoreau: there always is because if it is a success in suse you could see it be gathered in by ubuntu on the next kernel update such as the ati driver support10:03
bullgardindus: I do not understand your English in the message: "[11:02]<indus>bullgard,can have a diff one for network too". Can you say it in other words, please.10:03
indusnaoshige, that topic or language is not allowed here10:03
Myrttinaoshige: try installing the -dev package too10:04
soreaunaoshige: You probably need to install the -dev package. See apt-cache search libxml|grep dev10:04
soreauarchboxman: ask in #radeon10:04
indusbullgard, hi, for example when you connect to network manager, it asks for a password, this can be different from system passowrd10:04
archboxmansoreau: may do that good idea10:04
Guest60693dad@mythserver:~$ ntpdate10:04
Guest6069322 Feb 20:37:53 ntpdate[17547]: no servers can be used, exiting10:04
rob_pGuest60693: The ntpdate command is a one-shot deal.  It doesn't use your ntp.conf file. Only your ntpd does.  Therefore, you need to specify the server with which you want to sync., in the command.10:05
Guest60693I have servers selcted sowhy it say no severs can be used10:05
AcEg33khello everyone10:05
naoshigeMyrtti, soreau, thanks a lot guys10:05
indusbullgard, so some day you forget what the password was for that, you just delete it from that window, and it takes system passowrd10:05
Guest60693how can i check ntp is working correctly10:05
Guest60693beacuse on my client mythbuntu install time is wrong10:06
Guest60693which means mythtv no worky10:06
rob_pGuest60693: What do you want to check, ntp or ntpdate?  If ntpdate, the following will suffice: ntpdate pool.ntp.org10:06
Guest60693my server has ntp installed10:06
Guest60693and time is correct10:06
Guest60693I created a diskless image using ubuntu wiki but time on client is wrong10:07
rob_pGuest60693: To check ntp, you need to configure the config file (ntp.conf) and then start the ntp service.  Finally, check your logs for feedback.10:08
Guest60693its giving ntp time not local time even though timezone is correct10:08
AcEg33ki installed ubuntu for the first time, need help in configuring sound10:08
PFAso if you press Print Scrn when Google search suggestions are up, the search suggestions in the dropdown disappear. this is a problem since i want to screencap a search suggestion. is there any other way?10:08
Diverdudewhat ftp client do you recommend for ubuntu?10:08
rwwDiverdude: Places > Connect to Server works fine for me.10:08
erUSULDiverdude: Places>Connect to Server?10:08
naoshigeMyrtti, soreau, indus10:09
naoshigeyou guys wanna check out this track my friend did before he died?10:09
naoshigereally amazing stuff - http://www.zshare.net/download/552763591f4802ce/10:09
PFAnaoshige: this is a support channel. take to to #ubuntu-offtopic10:09
naoshigethought id share since you guys helped me out that's all10:09
naoshigei really appreciate it10:09
naoshigesure10:09
xfactHello, I already had Ubuntu installed, and now after installing Windows I cannot see the gurb menu to choose which OS I should run... How to fix the gurb? please help!10:10
erUSULxfact: karmic 9.10 ?10:10
xfacterUSUL, yes10:10
erUSUL!grub2 | xfact10:11
ubottuxfact: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub210:11
Gadget3000xfact: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22435110:11
erUSULxfact: the wiki page has a section to recover grub after installing windows10:11
xfacterUSUL, and Gadget3000: Thank you!10:11
indusxfact, hi10:12
indusxfact, do you have the live cd10:12
xfactindus, May I know, why you asking for my Live ID?10:13
indusxfact, to restore grub10:13
AcEg33kneed help inn configuring sound..10:13
indusor rather, to help10:13
xfacterUSUL, Hey, do oyou thin kthis is the appropriate page for my problem? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows10:13
xfactindus: yes I have one10:13
erUSULxfact: that's for grub1 iirc karmic uses grub210:13
indusxfact, so boot with it, then open a terminal and type sudo grub-install /dev/devicename10:14
bauerhowto get ubuntu-server installed via apt-get ?10:14
xfactindus: sorry ' May I know, why you asking for my Live ID?' if it sounds rude10:14
indusi want to eat the cd and run away10:14
xfactindus, Then?10:14
indusxfact, sudo grub-install /dev/sda where sda is first hard disk, then reboot10:15
indusxfact, in case that dont work, come back here and ill help10:15
xfactindus, ok thank you :)10:15
indusxfact, dont worry, i wont steal your live cd10:16
indus:D10:16
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xfactindus, ha ha, You can't cause it's (a)live!10:17
indusxfact, so did you boot wiht live cd or not10:19
deenaHi10:20
xfactindus: well, I am writing everything on a page, so I will not make mistake *need some minutes*10:20
deenai am trying to install savege 2 game in my desktop10:20
indusxfact, ok how many hard disk you have10:21
deenait says like "./Savage2Install-2.1.0-x86_64.bin: 2: Syntax error: "(" unexpected10:21
deena"10:21
deenaplease anyone help me out on this10:21
indusdeena, yeah installer is bad  i believe10:21
xfactindus: 80GB SATA II10:21
archboxmanOProfile is a management tool for profiles not ati graphics or cpu processes10:21
indusxfact, ok sudo grub-install /dev/sda , and later sudo update-grub10:21
perfectionindus: what if he partitioned?10:22
xfactindus: can you just pm me with all the instructions, so it will be easy to write step by step... (if you can't it's ok)10:22
indusdeena, downloaded from site? for 64 bit hmm10:22
indusperfection, grub installs to mbr of device not partition10:22
deenayes i downloaded from site for 64 bit only10:22
indusperfection, unless you want to10:22
quietonewhere do I set which program a file type will open with? I installed oo 3.2 and .odt now open with the file-roller.10:22
indusquietone, right click file and properties >open with10:23
perfectionindus: okay, i got u10:23
indusperfection, you can also do sudo grub-install /dev/sda2 etc but i never did it10:23
Guest53208what to install to upgrade to ubuntu-server ?10:23
indusdeena, try with the 32 bit maybe10:23
quietoneindus: did that (several times) and it only works once10:23
indusif i see that error, i never could find out why10:24
archboxmanOProfile - doesn't give me the idea of great control over profiles instead seems to be answer for novell server ideas not a linux idea...10:24
indusquietone, then dont know10:24
alankila<3 oprofile10:25
indusdeena, make the file executable10:25
archboxmanOProfile - goes back to a novell server idea of dropping profiles and gathering data...10:25
indusdeena, here look http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=121152810:25
alankilaeasy-to-use sampling profiler that can even dig up the source code and disassembly of the programs you profiled. What's not to like.10:25
ZykoticK9deena, I was able to successfully install Savage2 - 64bit yesterday -- don't know why you're getting that error, sorry10:26
archboxmanalankila: its still a novell idea to drop profiles and fix cpu operations in linux server.... not a native idea to linux... its an addon10:27
perfectionZykoticK9: maybe 'cause he's installing on 32bit system10:27
paradoxuncreatedOk, I have got aplay streaming sound to jack, and listening with aplay through my FFADO device now. However firefox/flash still outputs to the interal soundcard, anyone know how to fix this?10:27
acron17hi there! when i login into gnome i cannot focus any window after the very 1st mouse click, also i cannot switch between the windows using Alt-Tab10:28
* alankila has no idea what this talk about "native idea to linux" is.10:28
acron17i'm using ubuntu (9.10) and have described this here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=880436210:29
Guest53208/mesg help10:29
alankilaoprofile is one of the better linux technologies. I couldn't believe it existed, was easy to use, and worked -- as far as I could tell -- perfectly.10:29
archboxmanalankila: yes I do... written code can be changed understood...10:29
quietoneindus: fyi. made change by right click fn.odt -> properties -> 'open with' tab.  this worked for all .odt. good night.10:30
indusquietone, ok10:31
perfectionindus: does ubuntu support hyperthreading technology as the one in the intel i5 cpu?10:31
indusperfection, hmm what is that in i 510:32
ZykoticK9deena, are you trying to use "sh Savage2Install-2.1.0.1-x86_64.bin"? as i get the same error if i try that!  "chmod +x Savage2Install-2.1.0.1-x86_64.bin" then just use "./Savage2Install-2.1.0.1-x86_64.bin"10:33
perfectionindus: i mean the new intel cpus, they say they have hyperthreading features, etc. and i want to buy a laptop with one, so i was wondering if i cud take adventage of that technology with ubuntu10:33
indusperfection, i hear its being worked on, not sure if it even works properly with windows 7 yet10:34
deenai tried that also10:34
indusdeena, can you tell me the output of uname -a10:34
archboxmanalankila: you think a programmer that makes 80,000+ year has time to play with profile or adminstrator over 2000 users is going to figure out current bugs no... we delete profile and give a new profile with same use....not debug a profile .... oprofile intrudoces the same problem novell had for years..10:35
perfectionindus: oh, maybe i shud wait and hope the next kernel release supports that10:35
deenaLinux desktop 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux10:35
ZykoticK9deena, you have 32bit not 64bit!!!10:35
indusperfection, let me google it, but hyperthreading is supported for some time in linux, but the new i 5 etc have some new tricks so10:35
indusZykoticK9, !!!!!!!10:35
indusdeena, so sweetheart, download the 32 bit installer :)10:36
deenabut mine is AMD phenon processor10:36
deenaAMD is an 64 bit only am i right10:36
indusdeena, its not the processor, its the version of ubuntu you installed10:36
ZykoticK9deena, but you must have installed the 32bit version of Ubuntu10:36
alankilaarchboxman: I wonder if you even know what a profiler is.10:36
archboxmanalankila: the only reason we hang on to profiles is to notify novell of current problem in a profile for bug fixes...10:36
indusdeena, well, you can install either a 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu on it, it supports both , its not only 64 bit10:37
perfectionindus: okay thanx10:37
bullgardindus: I am sorry. I read your messages.  But I still do not know:  "What is the function or purpose of these 2 different lines?"10:37
indusbullgard, sorry, i cant explain better10:38
archboxmanalankila: careless to debug your preferences to a program no time ... for what a bunch of hidden files that reference software stored in usr/share profiles... no10:38
bullgardindus: Thank you.10:39
indusbullgard, also, it saves your gpg and ssh keys there10:39
deenaok let me try10:39
indusbullgard, try changing your password for system10:39
bazhi guys, I have somehow broken NFS and get 0 google hits for the error message.10:39
bazstart-stop-daemon: Unable to start /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd: Exec format error (Exec format error)10:39
bazwhich is nice10:40
indusbullgard, but frankly even iam not sure how it works10:40
Slartbaz: tried reinstalling the nfs server ?10:40
archboxmanalankila: have you ever seen what a mouse driver in a novell profile can cause if it causes problems it not fun.... reinstall a mouse driver everytime they hit the same snag... no10:40
alankilaarchboxman: so that's a no. You don't know what oprofile actually does.10:40
indusbullgard, once i found that my network and system password were different, so i deleted the entry for network from passwords and encryptions10:40
indusand saved10:40
bazSlart: The error occurs when I try to start/restart the service, yeah10:40
indusperfection, i think it works fine with newest kernel10:41
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* Slart wonders if archboxman and alankila is even talking about the same thing..10:41
indusperfection, wait ill give you a nice link10:41
indusperfection, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/42903610:41
perfectionindus: that's good news though i heard in lucid they may not use the latest kernel, i think we'll have to upgrade10:43
archboxmanSlart: same thing this person doesn't see the overall idea novell will press in .... I see it becuase the introducing the same ideas period...10:43
indusperfection, i think its fixed already10:43
indusperfection, does it say only for lucid?10:43
indusperfection, i think it will make its way into karmic probably10:44
Slartbaz: can you pastebin the output of "file /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd" ?10:44
Slart!pastebin | baz10:44
ubottubaz: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:44
perfectionindus: am sure it will but i prefer the latest so i'll upgrade to lucid10:44
archboxmanSlart: whats next we going to see a private network protocol for devices that novell wouldn't let go of long ago with the bindings....???10:45
bazSlart: Interesting. It's 0 bytes :|10:45
alankilaSlart: we're not. I thought his oprofile was about the debian package oprofile, the cpu usage measuring device which I think is the best thing ever. And he's talking about user profiles.10:45
perfectionindus: and i read on some blog they were saying lucid may not use the latest kernel, maybe they'll backport some module or whatever10:45
necat_hello10:45
perfectionindus: about processors that support 64bit, when you use 32bit version of OS are you under-utilizing the processor?10:46
necat_Heyy hiç türk var ı burda10:46
Slartarchboxman: I'm not claiming to know much about this.. but googling for Oprofile seems to suggest it's a profiling tools.. ie measuring performance for a process/system.. function calls..etc..10:46
Slartbaz: seems you've found the problem =)10:46
bazSlart: Seems I have - sorry, when you said "reinstalled" earlier I read it as "restarted"10:47
archboxmanSlart: preformance where is the question ... I can measure preformance without this tool... said to say...10:47
Slartbaz: ah.. try the --reinstall switch with apt-get.. or synaptic10:47
bazSlart: removed/re-installed package, seems to work now. No idea how that happened, this is on a RAID volume so that's a worry10:47
Slartbaz: and they say computers are predicatble =)10:47
marteohei10:48
marteoHi10:48
archboxmanSlart: right from there page Excellent introduction to profiling.10:48
Slartarchboxman: well.. as I said.. I'm in no position to discuss this.. I just got the impression you were talking about something else.. probably my bad10:49
Jordan_Uacron17, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-docs10:49
Jordan_Uacron17, Sorry, wrong nick10:50
acron17Jordan_U, noprob10:50
perfectiongot to go, peace out y'all10:50
acron17i've a serious problem: when i login into gnome i cannot focus any window after the very 1st mouse click, also i cannot switch between the windows using Alt-Tab10:52
archboxmanSlart: here is there idea http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20091208-903735.html10:53
Stargazein a server context, what does HVM stand for? and PV guest?10:53
acron17anyone interested in giving my hand on this one? (there are some more informations here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8803929)10:53
bjarniHi.  Can someone look at this from auth.log: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d5627e51b, The 3 lines dated Feb 22 08:21:45-46 are bothering me.  They don't come when restarted so maybe it's some automatic update or something.  How can I track where this is coming from?  The user "anuser" is not logged on - I am (bjarni) - but anuser is the first user to be installed on this system.10:54
archboxmanSlart: here is how novell entered this same bottleneck feature in windows camp :( http://support.novell.com/techcenter/articles/ana19960304.html10:55
Nighthawk82<--- New. hey guys how do i find out what workgrp i'm in under ubuntu10:56
Slartarchboxman: where does "Intelligent Workload Management" come into this?10:56
coz_Nighthawk82,  if no one here can answer at the moment you may want to try ##Linux channel10:57
naoshigehi10:57
e-DIO-thi there!10:57
naoshigeanybody running facebook apps off ubuntu servers?10:57
candybanIs there a package somewhere for libstdc++5 in karmic?10:57
ZykoticK9Nighthawk82, in a terminal "cat /etc/samba/smb.conf | grep workgroup"10:57
candybanOr will I need to take it from jaunty?10:58
AcEg33khello10:58
lele__good morning10:58
ZykoticK9candyban, it's been removed from Karmic10:58
AcEg33ki am unable to get my sound device working10:58
archboxmanSlart: they introduced this in long ago and said the novell server could run window profiles from the novell server with management tools and impliment changes based on there server tree and the there package costed a lot more like 5,000 dallors for there system relief packages in windows profiles...10:58
Gheddy_Zarcwhere can i get this file ? python-sqlite_1.0.1-7ubuntu1_all.deb I can find  version python-sqlite_1.0.1-4ubuntu1_all.deb but I need 7,,10:58
coz_candyban,  probably from the jaunty list of packages10:58
candybanZykoticK9, I noticed :p ... but I need it ... so unpacking it from jaunty then?10:59
Nighthawk82ZykoticK9:  does that change it or what does it do?10:59
candybancoz_, k10:59
ZykoticK9candyban, that's what I have done10:59
ZykoticK9Nighthawk82, all that command does is display what workgroup your in10:59
induscandyban, isnt that a bad idea? installing older libstdc++10:59
Slartarchboxman: "window profiles"? as in .. cpu performance measurements? or user profiles as in user files settings and such?10:59
coz_candyban,  which application requires this version?11:00
candybanindus, not if your application depends on it :)11:00
Nighthawk82ok thanks ZykoticK911:00
ZykoticK9Nighthawk82, anything in /etc "should" be owned by root and without sudo a normal user shouldn't be able to modify anything11:00
Nighthawk82cool thanks for the heads up11:00
candybancoz_, x-lite-311:00
Jordan_UZykoticK9, For future reference grep takes filenames as arguments, so: "grep workgroup /etc/samba/smb.conf"11:00
coz_candyban,  did you check if there is a developer version that may use the current library?11:00
candybancoz_, there is a beta, but only for windows/mac11:01
bjarniIn addition to the comment above, I need to add that the pasted log is from the start of log this morning.  Seems to be something started 5 minutes after boot in the morning...11:01
candybancoz_, so yes (I checked) ... and no (it's not available)11:01
ZykoticK9Jordan_U, that is much cleaner -- i'm affraid i have fallen into a bad habit with grep - i ALWAYS pipe to it ;)  Thanks for the heads-up though.11:01
OerHekscandyban the easy way is to download it from here: http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/libstdc++511:01
Jordan_UZykoticK9, np11:01
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coz_candyban,  there seems to be an x-lite-beta 4  let me see if I can find a download for that11:02
alankilaZykoticK9: it's called "useless use of cat award"11:02
alankilayou just received one, congratulations.11:02
Q_ContinuumUgh, just realized the answer to my issue.  I forgot FF 3.6 is a 'new version' so we won't see it for 2 months :-/11:03
ZykoticK9alankila, well i am Gold Medallist is "useless catting" then ;)11:03
* Q_Continuum sighs11:03
ZykoticK9Q_Continuum, you won't see it in Karmic probably ever -- add the PPA (FYI it's default in Lucid)11:03
archboxmanSlart: it ties into one there idea is to manage the server which inturn manages profiles to each invidual profile eating processorer time... which leads back to a front end novell server or example ... played with this idea at a hospital and a novel server believe version 5 ... yes this idea has great promise just not ideal for a it platform that can figure out the load based upon start time of profiles ... I don't need a program 11:03
Q_ContinuumZykoticK9, hence the '2 months' with Lucid :-P11:04
rwwQ_Continuum: Ubuntu's Mozilla team has a "firefox-stable" PPA that apparently has it. You'd do "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable"11:04
coz_candyban, no luck here11:04
ZykoticK9Q_Continuum, 66 days infact ;)  (sorry didn't get your 2 months reference)11:05
Q_ContinuumI forget about that 'feature' sometimes.11:05
zvacetQ_Continuum : if you want latest FF check http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ubuntuzilla/index.php?title=Main_Page11:05
archboxmanSlart: if its a free tool great... if it is an idea to purchase a novell server no.... I don't like idea ... same approach the used in the hospital industry to keep novell at the front end of servers...11:05
Q_Continuumrww, I'm looking into that now yeah11:05
naoshigeif im having server problems11:06
naoshigei.e. no response or whatever11:07
naoshigewhat log file is wisest to check up on?11:07
archboxmannaoshige: what server problem11:07
e-DIO-tnaoshige: what do you mean with "no response" and from which server?11:07
e-DIO-tbtw, usual log location is /var/log/appservername, isn't it?11:07
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Slartarchboxman: sorry... I don't seem to be able to get my head around this... but thanks for the explanations anyway11:08
naoshigewell11:09
naoshigeim trying to set up this facebook app11:09
archboxmanSlart: its not a big idea they tried to keep the hospital industry only using novell servers with there novell binding years ago until they allowed tcp/ip and everyone let novell server as quick as they could get the data off  the server11:09
OerHekscandyban if you run 32 bit ubuntu > sudo dpkg -i libstdc++5_3.3.6-17ubuntu1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg-deb -x libstdc++5_3.3.6-17ubuntu1_i386.deb ./tmp && sudo cp ./tmp/usr/lib/* /usr/lib32/11:10
archboxmanSlart: we had one novell server with 10 as40011:10
candybanOerHeks, why would I first want to install it and then manually extract it and copy the thing?11:12
candybanOerHeks, ps. I usually use ar and tar to extract stuff from packages :)11:13
mysterioux#join11:13
OerHekscandyban, husain explains it in > http://hsmak.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/how-to-fix-libstdc5-dependency-problem-in-ubuntu-9-10/11:13
mysteriouxcould someone tell me exactly were ubunut installs its files into?11:13
Slartmysterioux: you can check the package in synaptic.. right click and select properties11:14
mysteriouxi would like to install the following apache2,php,mysql for development but would like to know where its stores the files from the command line?11:14
Slartmysterioux: it installs files to several places11:14
mysteriouxSlart:tanks11:14
xfactindus, Thanks it helped!11:14
mysteriouxok, explain furthr pls11:14
alankilamysterioux: you can answer the question two says: study FHS, and use dpkg -L <packagename> to view list of files of that package.11:14
candybanOerHeks, I already have it "installed" ... but it's not working properly ... for some reason it can't properly use the dsp device (even though it should go to pulse) ... I'm going to try my luck with linphone11:14
mysteriouxok alankila: thanks11:15
alankilamysterioux: the FHS explains why a particular file is in, say, /usr/bin (it's determined by its role/function), and dpkg -L answers the particulars of any package you want to know about.11:15
Slartmysterioux: well.. documentation goes to one place (/usr/share somewhere).. libraries to (/usr/lib/) binaries or links to them to (/usr/bin is one example)..11:15
Slartmysterioux: so there are files spread all over the place11:15
ZykoticK9candyban, if you're getting a dsp error you can try using "padsp $program" and see if that corrects it11:15
Slart!fhs11:15
ubottuAn explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview  see also: man hier11:15
mysteriouxare there ways to control its location?11:16
alankilamysterioux: no, the packages will generally install were they will.11:16
Slartmysterioux: one of the advantages of using a "distro" is that it's tested with the packages.. so it's usually best to let the files go where they are intended to..11:17
Slartmysterioux: but, sure, you can move things around.. expect stuff to break though11:17
i3inaryhi, i need some help restoring a tar backup from a laptop to a newly created virtual machine.11:18
mysteriouxfurthermore, what is the time frame for upgrading ubunut online...cos i'm have a hard time upgrading?11:19
mysteriouxto the new version11:19
Slartwhat version are you using now?11:19
Slartmysterioux: your machine will never just stop working because the OS is out of date.. updates will stop coming though and eventually the repositories will be moved so you will be unable to install new software unless you select new repositories to use11:20
candybanZykoticK9, I'll first try linphone (if that doesn't work, I'll try your approach)11:20
mysterioux9.0411:21
i3inarylet me rephrase that i need some help restoring a tar backup from a laptop to a new hardware configuration.  i am trying to duplicate the environment that was configured on the laptop programs and all.11:21
Slart!9.0411:21
ubottuUbuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) was the tenth release of Ubuntu. Downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ - Release Notes: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/90411:21
alankilai3inary: you made a complete image of the filesystem with tar?11:21
i3inaryalankila, let me get the command i used for you11:21
indusxfact, :) good11:22
Slartmysterioux: here's the timeline for the releases.. 9.04 is supported until end of 2010.. so you've got some time left http://www.ubuntu.com/products/ubuntu/release-cycle11:23
i3inaryalankila, here is the script http://pastebin.ca/180561911:24
Slartmysterioux: here's the same thing but with text instead of graphs https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases11:24
alankilai3inary: ok. Well, seems straightforward enough. You boot some suitable live cd like knoppix against an empty harddisk image, make filesystem on it, decompress that backup, make any missing directories like /mnt, /sys, /proc, chroot into it, then run some command like grub-install or grub-setup against the harddisk image in order to get a bootloader on it.11:26
alankilayou may have to mount /proc and /sys manually though, and your /dev probably contains some rubbish from udev, but maybe that's not harmful. I'm not sure if /dev is completely empty these days normally, the script isn't handling /dev correctly anyway.11:26
alankilaoh, I see the script also contains a restore method. Well, that's a nice reference for the commands to execute.11:27
i3inaryalankila, so installing ubuntu on the new system then restoring files will not work properly even if i create the same user?11:28
mysteriouxthanks Slart11:28
mysteriouxfurthermore, how do I install wine on ubuntu from the command line or from the Synatic Package?11:29
mysteriouxand how?11:29
alankilai3inary: well, chances are that method also will work quite well. I just suggested a method that builds the linux from 0 existing install.11:29
indusmysterioux, sudo apt-get install wine11:29
Slart!wine | mysterioux11:29
ubottumysterioux: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu11:29
erUSUL!software | mysterioux11:29
ubottumysterioux: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents11:29
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indusmysterioux, or main menu > system >administration > synaptic package manager11:30
alankilai3inary: it's just that the linux will be running while the backup is decompressing, and that's not 100% healthy. But it might just work well enough.11:30
indusmysterioux, or main menu > ubuntu software center \11:30
i3inaryalankila, what if i boot into knoppix to decompress the files?11:31
alankilai3inary: then you can probably skip the bootloader installing step, but it's otherwise mostly the same.11:31
alankilai3inary: I don't like the fact that this script packed /dev into it. That should not be backuped nor restored. But it's probably harmless.11:32
AdvoWorkhmm,im doing /usr/bin/mail.... and its giving: mail: /usr/sbin/sendmail: No such file or directory   any ideas plesae?11:32
e-DIO-tpardon: except "disconnecting one of the disks", how could I check if grup is properly installed on each of a 2disk raid mirror?11:32
RRRRrrrraphHi all11:33
i3inaryalankila, i will exclude it from the restore then.  is that all i should worry about?  will it boot up and be just as i left it before backing it up or is it going to require all kinds of configurations?11:34
alankilai3inary: well, I believe it will resume just like you left it.11:34
alankilai3inary: the state of a linux system is in its files, and the only invisible part is the bootloader stuff in boot sector and whatever embedded sectors it mentions and so on11:35
i3inaryalankila, alright thats what i want to hear.  thank you so much for your time and information!11:35
alankilathe only danger as I see is with having an old install underneath which contains files that weren't part of the restore image, you'll have some sort of ugly superposition of things then.11:35
ace721Does anyone know how to setup a VPN? I followed all instructions and searched the web extensively and still can't get it to work. I'm running Karmic 32 bit11:36
alankilai3inary: hence my suggestion that since you backuped the whole system, restore to empty disk.11:36
i3inaryalankila, i just dont understand how the installation will boot without drivers that i figured were installed and configured during the ubuntu installation11:37
Gamrokhow can i resett apt11:37
i3inaryalankila, because im restoring to new hardware....is it nothing like windows in that respect?11:37
alankilai3inary: all that stuff is in the files you backed up. So when you boot some livecd image and restore the backup you restore those files too. All that you will not restore is the bootloader, as I already explained.11:37
tutu putaaa madreee11:38
Gamroki get the following error guys11:38
GamrokCould not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)11:38
Gamrokwhat should i do11:38
alankilai3inary: oh, yeah, linux system is pretty generic in that almost all hardware support linux has generally is already included. There are some exceptions to this rule, though.11:38
zvacet!wtf | tu11:38
ubottutu: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.11:38
alankilai3inary: it doesn't make decisions like support acpi / non-acpi system, or support this network card but not that one. Linux comes with pretty much all open source drivers ever written in every system.11:39
vicesfor ubunti 8.10, when i go to the sound icon and check preferences, there aren't any options for which microphone to select11:39
michael__After installing Ubuntu GRUB didn't create an entry for Windows Vista. I can see that Vista is still there, however I can't even mount it in read-only. I need to create a manual entry in grub.cfg, but need a little help.11:39
Gamrokguys i need some help here whenever i try and install something via terminal i get the following error Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)11:39
antonihi. anybody can tell me how to run echo mia under ubuntustudio 9.10? it's not working "out of the box"11:40
zvacetvices:  look under volume control11:40
rwwGamrok: what command are you trying to do?11:40
viceszvacet: yep, volume control -> preferences11:40
i3inaryalankila, alright then beautiful...so ill exclude /dev and try decompressing over a fresh install to go the easy way...if that doesnt work ill have to learn the boot loader stuff11:40
viceszvacet, it just has a "select tracks to be visible" and has only one option "master recording"11:40
alankilai3inary: still, you make a good point. Rebuilding the initramfs is a good idea, so "update-initramfs -u -k all" could be a good idea if it autodetects any support it needs to include. (Not sure if it does.)11:41
Gamrokrww i just  try and install anything but it does'nt work and i've been doing this all my life sudo apt-get install gnome-do11:41
zvacetI'm not at Ubuntu right now but you should see pcm,master and so on11:41
alankilai3inary: yeah check back, tell us how it went. It may be that the boot loader parts need some updating, or maybe not. I haven't checked just how large part of initramfses are dynamically tailored to the underlying system.11:42
rwwGamrok: what's the output of "ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/lock"?11:42
i3inaryalankila, thank i will.11:42
alankilai3inary: to ensure that boot problems don't come bite you, you can also exclude /boot from decompression11:42
zvacetvices: you should be able to see boxes on left side and check them and you will then have it listed11:42
alankilai3inary: that way you will keep whatever kernel and grub stuff the installer came up with. It should still work, hopefully.11:43
i3inaryalankila, ok ill do that11:43
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e-DIO-tgot it: dd of the 2 mbr => diff!11:43
meowbuntuhi would my p4 with low ram run better if i ran inside ram outside ram or normal11:44
zvacetmeowbuntu:  how much ram do you have11:45
ParallxI have a server, and I'm running out of space on disk, and i haven't installed anything for 5 years, where's all the crap?11:45
Slartinside ram? outside ram? normal? huh?11:45
alankilaSlart: perhaps some people see usb disks and flash sticks as just memory.11:46
candybanParallx, /var/log?11:46
candybantype du -hs /*11:46
candybanParallx, that can take quite a long time11:47
meowbuntuzvacet, i can set my os to run completly in ram. without it or normally.11:47
Slartalankila: ah.. tricky11:47
scavenger_I'm looking for a way to start gnome-terminal with certain tabs open - is that possible?11:47
meowbuntuzvacet, i have p4.768mb ram 1.8 processer  with issues. if i run say firefox and have several windows usingg scripts eg more than a google search page. it can hang11:48
zvacetmeowbuntu: ff eats ram use some other browser like google chrome or something else11:50
bullgard[seahorse] Applications > Accessories > Passwords and Encryption Keys > Passwords show 2 lines: "Passwords:default" and "Passwords:login". What is the function or purpose of these 2 lines?11:50
alankila768 is quite lot though. Firefox is bloated, but is it that bloated?11:50
MrSunshine_hmm, i sometimes get a dialog saying "the totem plugin could not be loaded" in firefox, how do i fix this? :/11:50
meowbuntuzvacet, i do use either ff, chrome(mostly) or kazehakase11:51
hanseaticquit11:51
indusmeowbuntu, what is kazehakase11:51
zvacetmeowbuntu:  do you have same problems with other two browsers11:52
michael__After installing Ubuntu GRUB didn't create an entry for Windows Vista. I can see that Vista is still there, however I can't even mount it in read-only. I need to create a manual entry in grub.cfg, but need a little help.11:53
zvacetindus:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazehakase11:53
alankilamichael__: would that be grub2? Maybe you are missing package called os-prober11:54
alankilamichael__: installing that allow grub2 to autogenerate the entries for OSes it knows about.11:54
michael__alankila, os-prober wouldn't be able to detect Vista because it needs read access to the partition.11:54
alankilamichael__: so? Shouldn't it have one when you run it as root?11:55
michael__alankila, Vista wont mount in read-only mode because it wasn't shut down properly, or there are FS errors.11:55
induszvacet, wikipedia link dont say much, howdo you pronounce it11:55
meowbuntuindus, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazehakase   it looks feels and acts like google chromeium11:55
cjsAnybody here familiar with the icky details of an Ubuntu boot of a system with an encrypted root? I've got a system that's not doing the luksOpen it ought to be.11:55
indusseems like it has tabs drag and drop like chrome11:55
Parallxcandyban: let me try11:55
indusmeowbuntu, looks like firefox, why do you use it?11:56
`mOOse`Parallx - you could also install bleachbit and take care of lots of crap that way too11:56
shriniHi, I dont have admin rights in my windows laptop. As has only C: partition. Is it possible to install ubuntu via wubi without admin rights?11:56
candybanParallx, if your server has not been patched for 5 years ... you might also consider that it's been rooted11:56
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alankilamichael__: and you can't boot it to let it shutdown properly. Catch-22.11:57
Parallxcandyban: breezy11:57
candybanParallx, have you been installing updates?11:57
Parallx`mOOse`: I don't have apt-get anymore11:57
michael__alankila, I nearly typed your name out as analkila. Moving on swiftly, yeah exactly catch 22. I run os-prober as root and it returns no output.11:57
Parallxcandyban: updates till end of breezy11:58
joppanopen question is shell promming req C prog skills11:58
gunavarahey guys, i'm looking for someone that has worked with pitivi ? i need some assistance :)11:58
candybanParallx, did you run apt-get clean?11:58
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Parallxcandyban: yep11:58
joppanlike if then..if then elif for in do done..blah blah11:58
zvacetindus:  I didn't try it and this is all I found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecommendedApplications11:58
Parallxall clean11:58
sagacijoppan: bash?11:58
meowbuntuindus, its hard to mention. has problems booting mb, i can get around that. when its running it runs ok for some time then it just runs out of ram.11:58
candybanyou can also run "lsof | grep -i deleted"11:58
indushmm11:59
alankilamichael__: well, I suppose the grub commands in its shell were at grub1 time something like "rootnoverify (hd,y)" "boot", nothing more complicated than that. I haven't checked what the grub2 commands look like, though.11:59
meowbuntuits just an old tired computer with issues. but i cant afford to upgrade it11:59
`mOOse`grub2 is totally different than grub12:00
Parallxcandyban: http://pastebin.com/m76db91d7 10GB disk12:00
`mOOse`whole new paradigm12:00
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meowbuntuindus, maby i should just ditch ubuntu and use dsl or similar os for older computers12:00
alankilayeah, grub2 has spoilt me, it has just worked, so I haven't really even read its vaguely programming language -like config12:00
BIDMASI'm packaging an application. JDK is a dependency. Specifically which package should I put as a dependency, and should it be in the pre-depends section?12:00
Gryllidameowbuntu: maybe Puppy Linux. the Ubuntu requirements are https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements12:01
alankilaBIDMAS: see for instance ant package. It currently lists default-jre-headless, java1-runtime-headless, java2-runtime-headless12:01
candybanParallx, do a df -h && du -hs /media ...12:01
candybanwithout the "..." ;)12:02
alankilaBIDMAS: whether you need a GUI it of course another matter, but any already-packaged java app could be it12:02
BIDMASalankila: Hmm... so I shouldn't be looking at openjdk or sun-jdk or whatever?12:02
alankilaBIDMAS: preferably no, unless you truly depend on that specific vm12:02
abrahamhi everybody12:02
abrahami have question about the NAT12:02
alankilaBIDMAS: my guess is, you want default-jre12:02
abrahamhow to write it and how to reconfig it12:03
Parallxcandyban: http://pastebin.com/d1f06bfee12:03
candybanParallx, and also try the "lsof | grep deleted"12:03
alankilaor well ... hmm ... I'm not sure. :-/12:03
zvacetmeowbuntu:  try Xubuntu see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce12:03
alankiladefault-jre seemed like sane choice, but does it depend on openjdk or how is this mess arranged now12:03
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Parallxcandyban: lsof | grep deleted     lsof: WARNING: can't stat() reiserfs file system /dev/.static/dev           Output information may be incomplete.12:04
meowbuntuzvacet, i think i have suggested requirments12:04
abrahampleeeeeeeeeeeeees12:04
abrahamI want to know about NAT12:04
meowbuntush: inxi: not found12:04
abrahamany body is there?12:04
candybanParallx, nothing for the rest?12:04
ae86-drifterlol12:04
abrahamyohooooooooo12:04
Parallxcandyban: ????12:05
inveratulo!patience|abraham12:05
ubottuabraham: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.12:05
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zvacetmeowbuntu:  yes you have but xubuntu is lighter then Gnome so maybe less consuming12:05
candybanParallx, like "/tmp/vteN5XH8U (deleted)"12:05
Parallxcandyban: in /tmp  I have just 2 hidden files .ICE-unix & .X11-unix12:06
zvacetmeowbuntu:  I use to run Jaunty with 192MB of ram with LXDE12:06
_dsli'm trying to configure a dial-up connection. i installed gnome-ppp but modem isn't detected. doing lspci|grep -i (whatever that means!) shows the modem model...what do I do now please?12:06
candybanParallx, no, the output of "lsof | grep deleted"12:06
oaie_seacahello. does anyone know if Ubuntu has a problem with the new hard disks from WD that have 4096 segment size ?12:07
candybanParallx, run that as root btw :)12:07
Parallxcandyban: no grep output12:07
meowbuntuzvacet, what does xubuntu run12:08
candybanParallx, can you do "du -hs /media/*" ?12:08
meowbuntuthey dont ship free cds of xubuntu or i would have gotten that12:09
zvacetmeowbuntu: xfce see http://www.xubuntu.org/12:09
Parallxcandyban: but /media is mounted on different disks12:09
`mOOse`I use xubuntu and I love it12:09
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`mOOse`which is xfce12:10
indusgdm12:10
Parallxcandyban: http://pastebin.com/d29978add12:10
indusmeowbuntu, they do i believe ship xubuntu also12:10
meowbuntuarg i dont like xfce. i used to run mint 7 xfce comunity edition it ran similar12:10
meowbuntuindus, not for free though12:10
indusmeowbuntu, really?12:10
meowbuntuya12:11
BigMack83i know this isnt ubuntu related, but im looking for a good irc bot and know about the one in here and was wondering what irc bot the channel uses or if it was a custom one.12:11
`mOOse`mint is a totally different distro though12:11
candybanParallx, is it possible for you to unmount those filesystems one by one? (and then check if the directories are empty)12:11
meowbuntuBigMack83, it is best to ask the ops here12:11
rwwubottu: botclone | BigMack8312:12
ubottuBigMack83: Ubottu uses supybot, which is available in the main !repositories, with additional plugins that are available at http://ubottu.com/clone.html12:12
Parallxcandyban: /media/*  ???12:12
meowbuntuindus, ran similar to mint main12:12
indusare the ubuntu cd's rewritable ?12:12
indusso it says here12:12
BigMack83awesome, thanks guys12:12
rwwindus: the ones you get from shipit?12:12
meowbuntuindus, no i dont think so12:12
Parallxcandyban: I just remounted them, but those are data only12:12
induseyah12:12
candybanParallx, like "umount /media/datos0 && du -hs /media/datos0"12:12
rwwindus: no, they're not12:12
Parallxcandyban: let me check12:13
indusWhile we will consider all requests, due to extremely high demand we may choose to send a smaller number of CDs, or refuse your request altogether.12:13
indusRequesting a smaller number of CDs or a standard option will increase your chances of having the request approved. Remember, you can reuse the CDs!12:13
induslook last line what it means12:13
meowbuntuindus, would you suggest i install xfce and test it on my ubuntu os12:13
candybanParallx, I suspect you may have put data there while the disks were not mounted ...12:13
indusmeowbuntu, why would i suggest that?12:13
indusmeowbuntu, its ugly and i dont like it12:13
rwwindus: "reuse" as in give to other people or use on other computers12:13
indusiam going to kde now12:13
indusbad choice of words12:14
`mOOse`kde isn't ugly?!12:14
indus]reuse buahaha12:14
indus`mOOse`, you blind?12:14
industhe menu is ugly though12:14
indusi hate it12:14
Parallxcandyban: I think that's the problem12:14
bazhang!ot12:14
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!12:14
meowbuntuindus, where is the ubuntu info you talking about relating to cds12:14
indusgrrrrr12:14
indusmeowbuntu, on shipit page12:15
`mOOse`no I don't think  I am...and I've run kde and gnome and xfce and I majorly prefer xcfe to kde12:15
meowbuntuoh and that is ????12:15
indusoff topic12:15
indusmeowbuntu, nothing, it says cd is reusable12:15
indusif english is my first language, then i say thats misleading12:15
meowbuntu`mOOse`, its to each his own12:15
Parallxcandyban: I will clean them up at night, Thank you12:15
indushow is kde ugly ?12:16
indusstrange12:16
meowbuntuok so shipt page is where then12:16
rwwindus: The aesthetic merits of KDE, as you have been told, is offtopic for an Ubuntu support channel.12:16
bazhangindus, please take chat to the appropriate channel12:16
zvacet`mOOse`: try enlightenment12:16
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indusah oh rww you a op too?12:16
indusok moved on12:16
joyhi guys12:16
indusjoy, hey12:17
`mOOse`!enlightenment12:17
ubottuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.12:17
rwwubottu: shipit | meowbuntu12:17
ubottumeowbuntu: Shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu and Kubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org - Shipit will send !Karmic (9.10) CDs12:17
usmanhow do install drivers for canon ip198012:17
candybanrww, can we talk about the aestetics of gnome?12:17
candyban;)12:17
`mOOse`heh12:17
`mOOse`noh!12:17
rwwcandyban: Sure, in #ubuntu-offtopic ;P12:17
indusi too do shipit, recently i burned 100 cds12:17
usmanUbuntu is not detecting drivers for canon ip1980 please help12:17
candybanubottu, E17 is in development since what 1998?12:17
oscarblhello can anybody help me. my ubuntu sofware centre doesnt start12:18
meowbuntu#ubuntu-oftopic maybe to talk about kde gnome and xfce differences12:18
indususman, canon should have drivers on theri site did you check12:18
rwwcandyban: December 200012:18
usmanIndus: Yes checked but they say they need a package libcupsys212:18
candybanrww, well, it feels a lot longer than a "mere 10 years" ;)12:19
indususman, and ? libcupsys2 not in synaptic ?12:19
usmanIndus: It is in latest version which is libcups212:19
joyjust anyone using ubuntu 9.1012:19
joyi have some problems with compiz here..12:19
usmanindus: but it does not support the old drivers12:19
indususman, wait,12:19
Guest59429hello12:21
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hellohi12:21
meowbuntuindus, well i cant find where it says the cds are rw12:21
joyhi guys i have a problem with compiz here.12:21
hellohi12:21
indususman, i just found your ubuntu forums post :) noone answered12:22
tobiashhi, is there any reason to excuse lack of Ndiswrapper in Ubuntu 9.10?12:22
indusmeowbuntu, reusable means what12:22
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meowbunturw12:22
rwwno12:22
usmanindus: That is why I am here ain't it?12:22
indusyeah12:22
tobiashI can't connect to wireless network via usb12:22
bartmonHi! I'm doing a project for college course and i need to test early KVM versions.That means kernel 2.6.20 and onwards. Can I expect a karmic server to work with suck an old kernel?12:22
meowbuntuindus, oh like a coaster or a bird repellant in fruit trees12:22
gavin_I can't find out how to change my xfwm4 theme.12:23
candybanIs this normal? "# /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset ... * Resetting ALSA...                                                            amixer: Invalid command!" ?12:23
bartmonok, sorry for the typos :P12:23
devunt12:23
gavin_Appearance only changes gtk theme.12:23
indusmeowbuntu, heh yes thats what they probably meant, ill write to them , how silly12:23
indususman, http://mfirmanshah.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/install-printer-canon-pixma-ip1980-in-ubuntu-jaunty-jackalope/12:23
usuario_olaaaaaaa!!!12:23
gavin_nevermind.12:23
gavin_i found it.12:23
indususman, you need to slect 1 libcupsys2 for install12:23
usuario_y adiosssss!!!!12:23
meowbuntuindus, they are reusable to rw on or to use as something else(recycle)12:23
indusmeowbuntu, reusable to rw ?12:24
meowbuntu^ or upcycle12:24
oscarbladios usuario12:24
rwwmeobuntu: as I said already, it means "reuse" as in give to other people or use on other computers12:24
rwwmeowbuntu **12:24
usmanindus: tried and failed already got error saying that libcupsys is already the latest versin12:24
meowbuntuindus, meaning are they cd rw12:24
indusmeowbuntu, i dont know12:24
indusmeowbuntu, no i think12:24
rwwoh for crying out loud12:24
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indusmeowbuntu, just cd r12:24
oscarblhas anybody tried lynx lucid12:25
indusrww,  welcome12:25
meowbuntuok12:25
rwwindus, meowbuntu: I just got back from a conference where we handed out about three hundred of them. *They are not CD-RWs*12:25
* meowbuntu is no longer confused thanks to rww12:25
indusoscarbl, please try #ubuntu+112:25
indusrww, 300 good,12:25
oscarblindus where i can get it?12:25
indusrww, what could be a good burner for high quantity12:25
indusoscarbl, type /join #ubuntu+112:26
oscarblok thanks12:26
meowbuntuindus, #ubuntu+1  support for the new beta version right???12:26
indususman, can you reinstall libcupsys2 instead of12:26
indusyes alpha version12:26
indusalpha 2 but alpha 3 is due soon12:26
meowbuntuindus, or just click on #ubuntu+112:26
indusaaarrgh yes !! oscarbl JUST click on #ubuntu+112:27
indus!noob12:27
ubottuAcronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.12:27
meowbuntuok so #ubuntu+1 is for the latest testing releases12:27
indusyes always12:27
Guest18655Hi all12:27
indususman, remove the libcup whatever completely and reinstall12:27
BiriX!jfgi12:28
ubottuAcronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.12:28
indusprinters are such a pain12:28
Guest18655I got the following problem, when I boot everything works, but whe the login screen should show up, i get a black screen12:28
ace721Does anyone know how to setup a VPN? I followed all instructions and searched the web extensively and still can't get it to work. I'm running Karmic 32 bit12:28
usmanno I am unable to re-install libcupsys2 because it is oudated and is replaced by libcups2 which is the present edition and it is a important security update12:28
Guest39936hi12:28
usmanthe canon drivers support only the old version12:28
indususman, try some backports then12:28
Guest18655I did try reconfig graphics and control alt f1/f212:28
meowbuntuindus, apart from a cli only ubuntu os whats the lightest ubuntu i can get12:29
usmanindus; what are backports?12:29
indususman, i mean, can you hmm download the jaunty version from packages.ubuntu.com12:29
indusmeowbuntu, xfce , fluxbox i think and similar12:29
indus!wm12:29
Guest18655lightest = xubuntu12:29
Guest18655I think12:29
meowbuntuindus, so just get !#12:29
indusmeowbuntu, i think ubuntu server :D12:29
Guest18655yeah, but thats without gui12:29
Guest18655you can use alternative cd12:30
meowbuntuindus, crunchbang !# basiclly is ubuntu with openbox12:30
indus!enlightenment12:30
ubottuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.12:30
indusok a little off toipic now12:30
Guest18655I need some help with graphic drivers...12:30
Guest18655I got the following problem, when I boot everything works, but whe the login screen should show up, i get a black screen12:30
meowbuntu!i tryed building an Enlightenment os last week from ubuntu disapointing and frustraighting12:30
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:30
Guest18655I did try reconfig graphics and control alt f1/f212:30
adalalanyone familiar with iptables, and how to forward ports?12:31
Dr_Willis!iptables12:31
ubottuUbuntu, like any other linux  distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Uncomplicated_Firewall_ufw), or 'iptables' (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo). GUI applications such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist12:31
adalalthansk12:31
indususman, bump your thread on the forums12:31
indususman, let it move up12:31
adalalDr_Willis: but that doesn't show HOW to forward ports...12:31
Dr_Willisadalal:  iptables has 1000000+ tutorals and guides out on the net.12:32
Spanglish_7776adalal: this should give you an idea http://www.howtoforge.com/nat-gateway-iptables-port-forwarding-dns-and-dhcp-setup-ubuntu-8.10-server12:32
Guest18655Dr Willis, can you help me?12:32
indusadalal, try the gui ?12:32
Guest18655I got this problem, when I boot everything works, but whe the login screen should show up, i get a black screen12:33
Dr_WillisGuest18655:  always state your video card when mentiong a video issue12:33
usmanindus: how do you bump it12:33
Guest18655Onboard12:33
* B|aSS is away: Yeah dude, Im Away!12:33
Dr_WillisGuest18655:  so its onboard.. thers hundereds of chipsets an onbord video card can be using12:34
Guest18655But the weird thing is, i got all the loading12:34
adalalindus: im trying to setup a gateway, using a network alias instead of using two NICs12:34
Guest18655in good res.12:34
indususman, just login and type the word bump as a reply :)12:34
Guest18655but when the login comes, nothing12:34
usmanindus: okay12:34
Guest18655even not the text based login12:34
Dr_WillisGuest18655:  X uses differnt drivers then the Boot splash screen. Xsplash and GDM then show up in X.12:34
BusMasterafter installing thunderbird-3.1 from the ppa, I get the message "Error getting mail password" when I start up. Has anyone faced this before? Google seems to suggest that mozilla doesn't know how to fix it12:34
Dr_WillisGuest18655:  see if alt-ctrl-F1 throiugh F6 get you to 'consoles' where you can log in. for starters12:35
Guest18655i did try that12:35
indusDr_Willis, what ? diff for boot splash but same for gdm12:35
Guest18655did not display12:35
meuahi! i'm running some "hello world"-like python script and python process consume 100% of both my CPU... where can i start to fix this please ?12:35
indusDr_Willis, if it wont find drivers, it either falls to vesa or boink no?12:35
indusmeua, can i see the code?12:36
Dr_Willissplash logo -> xsplash (whih is in X) -> gdm12:36
indus!paste | meua12:36
ubottumeua: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:36
indusDr_Willis, yeah12:36
indusso in karmic i hear the gdm cant be changes12:36
Dr_WillisGuest18655:  then you got some deep issues. You need to test with some live cd's and determine what your video card is for starters12:36
indushow to?12:36
Dr_Willisindus:  it can be changed slightly. and there are a few extra temes for it12:36
indusGuest18655, what video card? pressed f1 where it gets stuck ?i mean ctl f112:37
meuaindus, http://paste.ubuntu.com/381562/12:37
indusor was that alt clt f112:37
Guest18655control alt f1 = not workig12:37
Guest18655right after the boot loading thing12:37
Guest18655i already tried reconfig xorg12:37
Dr_WillisGuest18655:  for all we know the system could just be crashing badly. How did you reconfig xorg if you cant log in?12:37
usmanindus: how much more can a person elevate his thread12:38
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indususman, you havent elevated at all12:38
Guest18655safe mode12:39
usmanindus: I replied with bump12:39
Guest18655and netroot (safemode)12:39
Guest18655Nvidia GeForce 8200 = video card12:39
Dr_WillisGuest18655:  so you got X working from safemode with 'startx' ?12:39
Guest18655no, i booted, got safemode12:40
Guest18655text based12:40
Guest18655worked12:40
ubyserverGreetings12:40
Guest18655then normal boot, loading = ok, login =fail12:40
tobiashhi, is there any reason to excuse lack of Ndiswrapper in Ubuntu 9.10?12:41
usmanIs there anyway of recovering files even after they have been deleted from the trash12:41
indususman, no12:41
Guest18655yes12:41
tobiashsecond thing why isn't wireless work12:41
Guest18655there is12:41
meuaindus, http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5373/screenshotho.png12:41
indususman, or extremely difficuly12:41
indusmeua, i tried it runs ok12:41
Dr_WillisI thought ndiswrapper was getting more and more obsolete these days..12:42
meuaindus, it runs ok for me too, but even with the console shutted down, the python's process keep consuming 100%... :(12:42
ubyserverShould I do a dist-upgrade and upgrade or just one of the two?12:42
ubyserverI've already done the apt-get update12:43
indusmeua, thats probably due to another process?12:43
indusmeua, chekc which process12:43
NCS_Onehi12:43
meuaindus, ok thanks fo your time !12:43
Guest18655I am in safemode again, what should I choose?12:43
indusmeua, see any process with 100 %?12:44
meuaindus, i've stopped both python process and everything come back to normal (average 20%CPU)12:45
sgsawant_Hi Vishal!12:46
meuaindus, it might be my attempt to install eclipse and pydev plugin that started a undesirable process maybe...12:46
indusmaybe, but rest assured your program is too simple to do anything12:46
sgsawant_Why's there such a silence on this IRC?12:46
meuaindus, ok. Thanks once again !12:47
indusmeua, i just thought it was running some loop etc or doing some crazy maths12:47
meuaindus, nope i'm learning programming with a very basic tutorial... just this12:47
indusmeua, do try byteofpython.info12:48
meuaindus, i'm on this http://openbookproject.net/thinkcs/python/english2e/ch03.html12:48
indusmeua, ok sure, good luck12:48
adalalheya again, for my iptables, the --dport option isnt being  recognised12:49
edqnaghi12:49
Guest18655tried xfix again12:49
sgsawantI needed help with my PDF Printer. Is anyone able & willing?12:49
Guest18655how can i start graphics from commandline?12:50
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hapikhello12:50
ubyserverGuest18655: startx12:51
ubyserverHope that I am right.12:51
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ubyserverHello hapik12:51
Guest18655whohoo, black screen12:51
meuaindus, would you advice me vi or gedit ? :)12:52
indusmeua, gedit12:52
meuaok thx12:52
indusmeua,nano12:52
indusmeua, i like gui stuff12:52
hapikwhat is the path to a printing program? I am supposed to give it to another application12:52
meuanano... i'll check it right now12:53
hapikactually I need creating PDF files from Opera12:53
shashankshashank, Hi!12:54
edqnagcan anyone tell me how to clear my GRUB loading screen after i updated my ubuntu, thank you.12:54
lisa_hey,  i want to use my other ubuntu box as a proxy. how do i do that?12:54
sgsawantshashank, Hi!12:54
adalaledqnag: remove the unnecessary kernels, and run update-grub12:56
adalalas root12:56
adalalanyone here knows why the --dport option wouldnt be working on iptables?12:56
edqnagsudo apt-get autoremove --purge ??12:56
kN0_Q: Can someone here give me some hints on how to check for, and "isolate"/fix bad HD blocks n Ubuntu 9.10?12:56
Guest18655I tried remove/install xorg now....12:56
kN0_Booting into single mode and running fsck doesn't do anything.12:56
kN0_It just replies with this: /dev/sda5: clean, 122033/3481600 files, 5372219/13916062 blocks12:57
adalal