[00:50] <rick_cli4lif> just wondering if anyone knows for sure if you can run U1 filesync headless without the gnome parts like on a server or alternative WM system?
[00:50] <rick_cli4lif> see some docs on cmd line sync tools, but nothing on setup/running
[00:54] <rick_cli4lif> ok, nvm, looks like I've found something: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/440351
[04:15]  * izzaboo *honk*
[04:15] <izzaboo> wow. that felt kinda rude.
[04:15] <izzaboo> honking in such a quiet channel
[04:17] <duanedesign> lol
[04:18] <duanedesign> its a little quite right know. But ill se if i can help izzaboo
[04:23] <izzaboo> ah. sry, was reading webpage.  I just had a Q about Contacts usage via website.  Confirm no import/export there?
[04:23] <duanedesign> s/quite/quiet
[04:23] <izzaboo> quite quiet for sure
[04:23] <duanedesign> lol
[04:25] <duanedesign> you can edit contacts there, but not import
[04:26] <duanedesign> they are doing a lot of work on the web UI. Adding search, bulk upload and a lot of other features
[04:26] <duanedesign> What type of upload of contacts were you looking to do izzaboo ?
[04:26] <izzaboo> excellent!  Contacts & Notes is a huge step forward for me from using dropbox.com.
[04:28] <duanedesign> izzaboo: yes Ubuntu One plans to distinguish itself by adding support for different apps on the platform
[04:28] <izzaboo> I was thinking vcard (or even .csv) for downloading to non-primary computers to share with others.  Or uploading the same.
[04:28] <duanedesign> izzaboo: i agree. I was thinkinng vcard.
[04:29] <duanedesign> .csv might be nice though
[04:29] <izzaboo> conversion seems like its a bigger hurdle than it should be between email/PIM apps
[04:30] <duanedesign> izzaboo: are you using Karmic?
[04:30] <izzaboo> e.g. I exported contacts from gmail.
[04:30] <izzaboo> ya. Karmic on a dell mini 9 (its in the other room charging) but I'm on old Mac OS X right now.
[04:31] <izzaboo> and when I imported .csv file from google to evolution the data was entered in all the wrong fields.
[04:32] <izzaboo> the contacts component of evolution on that mini 9 screen is irritating.  I installed Karmic on an iMac too, but my son has all his stuff already in OS X.
[04:33] <izzaboo> it is actually easier to use the contacts portion of the web UI than evolution on the 9" screen.
[04:34] <duanedesign> izzaboo: right. I have Lucid installed in a VM. They have been busy a lot of changes for Ubuntu One in Lucid.
[04:34] <izzaboo> sweet. I look forward to it!
[04:41] <duanedesign> izzaboo: did you use a guide for importing your contacts?
[04:43] <izzaboo> oh geeze.  I can't remember.  I think so...
[04:43] <duanedesign> izzaboo: hmm. looks like some people had some luck going fron Thunderbird to evolution
[04:43] <duanedesign> izzaboo: no problrem
[04:44] <duanedesign> but what a pain, installing thunderbird just to import your contacts
[04:44] <izzaboo> weird I just tried to download a file via web UI and got "bad server response? (NSURLErrorDomain:-1011) on two different files.
[04:45] <izzaboo> ya. If I remember correctly I think the choices from google weren't great, like they configured specifically for Outlook or something...
[04:45] <izzaboo> so that mighta been the trouble.  I read about some online conversion sites but wonder if I wanted to share all my contacts' info with them.  heheh
[04:45] <duanedesign> right
[04:47] <izzaboo> yep. they have Google CSV, Outlook CSV & vCard
[04:47] <izzaboo> they = google
[04:50] <duanedesign> izzaboo: you tried to DL a file, by double clicking on  it and selecting save?
[04:50] <izzaboo> btw, i did use the tutorial but it wasn't re: importing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials/Contacts
[04:51] <izzaboo> ummm. no. I just single clicked...
[04:51] <duanedesign> izzaboo: your right
[04:52] <duanedesign> its a single-click :)
[04:52] <izzaboo> right click Save Linked File... give me the same error...
[04:53] <izzaboo> hey are there One clients for other UIs?  i wonder if I could just use CLI on mac os x
[04:54] <izzaboo> spell: give/gave
[04:54] <duanedesign> izzaboo: what browser are you using?
[04:54] <izzaboo> safari
[04:55]  * izzaboo launching firefox
[04:56] <duanedesign> izzaboo: there has been work on Ubuntu One clients for Fedora, and there is a sprint planned for PyCon ( i think its called) to make a Windows client
[05:02] <izzaboo> file d/l works fine in firefox/osX
[05:02] <duanedesign> izzaboo: hmmm, ok
[05:03] <izzaboo> .txt, .jpg & .xls files I tried
[05:04] <duanedesign> Ill mention that to everyone. Not sure how much testing has happened on Safari.
[05:05] <duanedesign> izzaboo: i have to sign off. Another name you might want to remember is rye. He is very knowledgable with Ubuntu One and very helpfull.
[05:05] <duanedesign> happy syncing. good to talk to you
[05:06] <izzaboo> works good in camino browser too.  just not safari 4.0.4.  thanks, duanedesign, good to talk to you too
[05:06] <duanedesign> really
[05:07] <duanedesign> interesting
[05:07] <izzaboo> os X 10.4.11, if that helps anyone.  heheh
[05:07] <duanedesign> I use camino at work. Just havent been  into the office in awhile to try it
[05:07] <izzaboo> ya. worked fine in camino.
[05:08] <duanedesign> i imagine it would not be too hard to recompile ubuntu one for Fink or MacPorts
[05:09] <duanedesign> just a thought :) have a good <local time>
[05:09] <izzaboo> I gots to sign off too.  I'm in no hurry for the features.  like what we've got, that's for sure!
[05:09] <izzaboo> cheers!
[06:28] <psyphercode> hello ubuntuone team
[06:28] <psyphercode> is there anyone who can assist me pls?
[06:37] <psyphercode> my ubunuoner doers not sycn at all, pls assist
[06:38] <psyphercode> my ubuntuone does not sync at all, pls assist
[08:12] <psyphercode> is there anyone online who can assist me pls, u1 not working at all??
[08:48] <psyphercode> is there anyone online who can assist me pls, u1 not working at all??
[09:02] <rye> duanedesign, wow, sorry for not responding earlier to memos you have sent - I have recovered my pass yesterday for my irc account and found the memos only today
[09:16] <duanedesign> rye: ah, no worries. They turned out to be for nothing :)
[09:16] <duanedesign> psyphercode: you still there?
[09:18] <duanedesign> rye: i cant figure this out, lol. https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/101795
[09:18] <rye> duanedesign, you mean that you don't understand why users do this?
[09:18] <rye> erm, "users"
[09:19] <duanedesign> rye: well fail2ban is also a spammer
[09:19] <duanedesign> they are turning each other in o.O
[09:19] <duanedesign> lol
[09:21] <duanedesign> i should say 'suspected' of innapropriatte activity
[09:43]  * popey waves
[09:43] <aquarius> hey popey
[09:45]  * rye relogins via ipv6 link...
[10:11] <rye> ok, guys, is there anyone who was working on /account/machines/ ? Machine removal broke - bug 524193
[10:11] <rye> tomboy notes are still being blanked so the fix will need to be deployed to production today
[10:39] <duanedesign> rye: if someone is running Ubuntu One from the Beta PPA (like the jaunty client) DEBUG is already set in syncdaemon.conf by default?
[10:39] <rye> duanedesign, yes, that is in logging.conf in /etc/xdg/ubuntuone
[10:40] <duanedesign> ahhh, thank you sir
[11:08] <rye> anybody here experienced segmentation faults of python on desktopcouch startup (i.e. in keyring-dbus interaction)
[11:10] <rye> ?
[11:11]  * rye needs to learn that the way i think about the sentence is not the best way to output it...
[11:42] <splashote> hey there. is there any way to delete all the files stored online?
[11:47] <rye> splashote, you can remove all the folders and files by clicking on corresponding icon that appears when you select a folder or file
[11:47] <rye> it is not possible to erase everything in one click at the moment
[11:55] <duanedesign> rye: didnt you have a script that checked for non valid UTF-8 characters. Is that the script ubuntuone-client-diagnose.py
[11:56] <duanedesign> i guess i could quit being lazy and look at the source :)
[12:00] <rye> great, something is definitely broken in my 2.4 router, suddenly it starts directing ipv6 tunnel through different uplink
[12:00] <rye> duanedesign, yes, the code is there
[12:00] <duanedesign> rye: it actually fixes the names too :)
[12:00] <rye> duanedesign, you should keep in mind that i am not yet a professional python programmer, i spent most of my programming life doing things in perl
[12:00] <rye> duanedesign, you mean your script?
[12:01] <rye> duanedesign, i was thinking of such possibility but that requires the code to detect the original encoding. Given the wide range for possible encodings in windows systems this may be quite hard. Or not.
[12:02] <duanedesign> rye: ahhh, i see. Yeah that should of been a question mark at the end of that, lol
[12:03] <duanedesign> rye: Perl is awesome. i have seen some amazing stuff done with very little code in Perl
[12:03] <duanedesign> rye: i find it difficult. Looks like cartoon characters swearing to me. *$#! :P
[12:04] <rye> duanedesign, re: amazing stuff - yes, right, until you are in charge of that 'amazing stuff done with very little code by a programmer who left the company' - then it stops being amazing :)
[12:29]  * rye went to vm debugging applet crash on startup, this has been for too much time here...
[12:34] <psyphercode> is there anyone online who can assist me pls, u1 not working at all??
[12:35] <rye> psyphercode, hi! Could you pelase describe the current state in more details?
[12:38] <psyphercode> rye: everything was working sorta ok 2 days ago, loaded bout 800MB of pictures all updated ok. then today try do another 800MB and it just doesn't do anything, as far as it's concerned the files are up to date. I have 50GB of space
[12:39] <psyphercode> since i bought my 50GB of space this has been the "norm" just issue after issue. it's not a very stable service at all, left it for bout 2 mnonths hoping it will improve, it hasn't
[12:40] <beuno> psyphercode, wow, I'm sorry you've been having such a bad experience
[12:40] <beuno> when did you try adding those last 800mb?
[12:41] <rye> psyphercode, ok, first of all, if you are having the issue at the moment, then we will need to get info about the current state of the software that performing the sync.
[12:41] <psyphercode> k
[12:41] <rye> psyphercode, could you please paste the contents of ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log to http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[12:42] <psyphercode> how far back must i go
[12:42] <psyphercode> big file
[12:42] <psyphercode> its fine i got it all
[12:43] <rye> psyphercode, last 5-10 lines might be enough
[12:43] <rye> psyphercode, then please provide us with the URL that the file got uploaded to
[12:43] <psyphercode> http://paste.ubuntu.com/381564/
[12:47] <rye> 2010-02-22 10:51:45,854 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.ActionQueue - WARNING - connection lost: Connection was closed cleanly.
[12:47] <rye> hm, based on this, it disconnected from the service and does not reconnect
[12:48] <rye> psyphercode, quick way to restore the connectivity is to signal syncdaemon to quit - u1sdtool -q then start syncdaemon via the applet by clicking "Connect"
[12:49] <psyphercode> rye: question, why does that not woirk from the gui?
[12:49] <psyphercode> and the applet is still in the white cloud phase so connect optiomn
[12:50] <psyphercode> after
[12:50] <rye> psyphercode, you mean disconnecting from the gui does not force syncdemon to disconnect?
[12:50] <psyphercode> u1sdtool -q
[12:50] <psyphercode> yes
[12:50] <psyphercode> even using that command it still looks conected
[12:52] <rye> psyphercode, could you please execute " dbus-send --session --print-reply --dest=com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon --type=method_call /status com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Status.current_status " - this will output the current status of syncdaemon
[12:52] <rye> since it is switches to shutdown state, the applet should handle that
[12:52] <psyphercode> Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[12:54] <psyphercode> rye: hmm suddenly it says updating files and the icon changed
[12:55] <psyphercode> yet when u click it does not say how many files is still to be done
[12:55] <rye> psyphercode, ok, could you please re-run that commant?
[12:55] <rye> *command
[12:55] <psyphercode> rye: ok now it's disconnected
[12:56] <psyphercode> will run the command again now
[12:56] <rye> I believe I have to write a bug report about syncdaemon not being cooperative on startup as well. bug 498444 describes the symptom
[12:56] <rye> psyphercode, disconnected?
[12:56] <psyphercode> http://paste.ubuntu.com/381574/
[12:57] <psyphercode> after i ran the dbus command bout 2 mins later the applet said updating files icon wne to a rotating arrow then went disconnected
[12:57] <rye> psyphercode, hm, could you please re-post the contents of syncdaemon.log ?
[12:58]  * rye is filing a bug to perform signal response first and then performing LR
[12:58] <psyphercode> http://paste.ubuntu.com/381575/
[12:59] <popey> is the notification icon for u1 no more in lucid? I never see it
[13:02] <rye> psyphercode, ok, are you able to connect the applet again and see what happens. If that reverts to "disconnected" again then we will start aggressive debugging. Additionally, what client version are you running (apt-cache policy ubuntuone-client)
[13:02] <rye> popey, applet is gone in lucid and will be replaced by a control panel which will provide more info than applet can do.
[13:02] <psyphercode> ubuntuone-client:
[13:02] <psyphercode>   Installed: 1.0.3-0ubuntu1
[13:02] <popey> rye: thanks
[13:02] <psyphercode>   Candidate: 1.0.3-0ubuntu1
[13:02] <psyphercode>   Version table:
[13:02] <psyphercode>  *** 1.0.3-0ubuntu1 0
[13:02] <psyphercode>         500 http://za.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates/main Packages
[13:02] <psyphercode>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[13:02] <psyphercode>      1.0.2-0ubuntu1 0
[13:02] <psyphercode>         500 http://za.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages
[13:03] <psyphercode> rye: i have connected the app, waiting but don't see anything
[13:03] <rye> psyphercode, could you please re-run the status command?
[13:04] <rye> what I am trying to accomplish is to find the reason why it goes to disconnected state
[13:04] <psyphercode> rye: http://paste.ubuntu.com/381580/
[13:06] <rye> psyphercode, ok, it now reads the info from the server to see what changed
[13:11] <psyphercode> rye: still not seeing it update though
[13:11] <rye> psyphercode, ok, what's the status now?
[13:12] <psyphercode> app status or the debus status?
[13:13] <rye> psyphercode, the dbus-send command
[13:13] <psyphercode> http://paste.ubuntu.com/381583/
[13:14] <rye> u1sdtool --status is present in newer versions in beta PPA, but I do not recomment running PPA version at the moment
[13:40] <psyphercode> rye: so what next? still investigating that side?
[13:41] <rye> psyphercode, is there any status change for the client?
[13:42] <psyphercode> nothing has changed since we reconnected
[13:42] <psyphercode> http://paste.ubuntu.com/381592/
[13:46] <rye> psyphercode, ok, could you please post the contents of the log again, it looks like it is working fine but just to be sure
[13:48] <psyphercode> can't be working though, nothing is uploading
[13:48] <psyphercode> http://paste.ubuntu.com/381599/
[13:52] <rye> psyphercode, is there any disk drive activity now?
[13:53] <psyphercode> there is but not a lot and it's probably just me working on this pc
[13:54] <psyphercode> iotop also shows nothing
[14:07] <rye> psyphercode, could you please post the output of grep MARK ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log - it should show at least some progress
[14:09] <psyphercode> http://paste.ubuntu.com/381616/
[14:13] <rye> psyphercode, ok, the syncdaemon is working fine (quoting verterok: ) syncdaemon first works on metadata, and once it's done, starts working on content
[14:14] <verterok> :)
[14:14] <psyphercode> so it's indexing?
[14:16] <rye> psyphercode, yes, it appears that the first part got uploaded before syncdaemon got info about the actual amount of files that need to be synced, therefore it is now indexing the files that are not present on the server
[14:16] <psyphercode> rye: ok so why did it not do that the 1st 800mb i uploaded 2 days ago?
[14:16] <psyphercode> and what can be done to avoid this
[14:17] <psyphercode> i mean there must be a bug somewhere right?
[14:17] <psyphercode> plus how long is it supposed to take, don;t even see that much disk access
[14:18] <rye> psyphercode, there is something wrong with it, right. First of all it disconnected and failed to reconnect, I believe this is already reported but I am now stuffing my ubuntuone folder with files of different sizes and sorts to see whether it can be reproduced. I belive it can be.
[14:20] <psyphercode> ah ok cool
[14:21] <psyphercode> when do you think u1 will get to a p;oint where it's production ready?
[14:21] <psyphercode> lucid?
[14:21] <rye> psyphercode, I am very sorry you have experienced such kind of issue and we are now working on the resolution of most common bugs.
[14:22] <rye> psyphercode, Lucid release will have additional features and it is LTS. Having such fragile system is not an option, i believe. Therefore we will work hard to eliminate the existing issues before Lucid is released.
[14:23] <rye> you can see that most of the bugs reported now are duplicates of the known issues.
[14:23] <rye> and many of them are already fixed but the fixes are not yet present in the stable releases
[14:24] <rye> ok, i am sorry but I will need to step away, will be back in 2 hours.
[14:25] <psyphercode> ok cool, also a feature that is sorely lacking which I have been trying to request on the ubuntu forums, but have had no response, is offline syncing. so i don't have to upload 50GB and then re-donwload that 50GB back down to all the machines i want to sync
[14:26] <rye|away> psyphercode, hm, could you please point us to the forum thread?
[14:47] <dobey> psyphercode: LAN sync is something we've talked about doing in the past, but it's a very large feature, and there were more important things we wanted to get done for Lucid... We try to prioritize stuff to work on based on what would be beneficial to the most users... Hopefully that can be the one for Lucid+1 though :)
[14:47] <psyphercode> ok sweet, but is there no manual way to do it without causing conflicts?
[14:53] <urbanape> morning, u1ers
[15:00] <dobey> hey urbanape
[15:01] <dobey> Richmond sucks btw. They still have smoking in bars it seems. :(
[15:02] <urbanape> Man up. If it's good enough for aquarius, it's good enough for you.
[15:04] <dobey> If it's not engine exhaust, I don't want the smoke :)
[15:06] <urbanape> as I understand it, the law is entirely without teeth. It's something like a $100 fine each time someone smokes in a bar, with an annual limit of $1500. So, bars are basically getting a $1500 smoking license per year.
[15:06] <urbanape> which is peanuts, if it keeps the smokers coming and drinking.
[15:07] <dobey> hrmm
[15:07] <dobey> there are a few exceptions too
[15:08] <urbanape> ah, the fine is only $25/incident.
[15:09] <urbanape> and enforcement is basically up to health code inspectors, since it's a civil offense, not a criminal offense.
[15:15] <dobey> and Tobacco Co. gets off easy because the club downstairs is "separate" from the "non-smoking" area upstairs
[15:16] <dobey> oh well, I don't think I'll be going back there anyway
[15:21] <dobey> hrmm
[18:22] <CardinalFang> I have PyCon talks playing in the background, and NedB's lightning has me wanting coverage.py in our tests.
[18:43] <rye> just give me some time and I will find a bug even in package manager...
[18:46] <dobey> i just found one in rhythmbox, but not sure how to describe it well
[18:49] <rye> dobey, first of all I do this: "BUG!" or "ALARM!" depending on what I have found :)
[18:51] <rye> but I am just lucky. I can not post to ubuntuone-users from @canonical address because I am facing yet-unknown bug in Launchpad/SSO integration. My /tmp is not cleaned and ureadahead does not work because I have "custom" layout... And Landscape failed to update my system due missing handling of read-only partitions.
[18:51] <dobey> http://www.theonion.com/content/news/real_estate_developers_push_to
[18:51] <rye> I am feeling lucky
[18:51] <dobey> hahahahah
[18:51] <dobey> I ♥ The Onion!
[19:20] <rye> Ah, one more
[19:20] <rye>             self.__litems["status"] = gtk.MenuItem(
[19:20] <rye>                   label=_("Your files are up to date."))
[19:20] <rye> this is on applet initialization.
[19:20] <dobey> one more what?
[19:21] <rye> so that even if there is everything broken the user is still assured that the files are up to date
[19:21] <rye> much like the default 'synchronized' emblem on the files
[19:21] <CardinalFang> Before we know about the files, we talk about the files.  Great.
[19:21] <rye> dobey, i am performing internal talk with myself and some output gets printed to IRC :)
[19:21] <dobey> we already know about files
[19:21] <dobey> we don't already knoow about lag
[19:22] <rye> dobey, this is in __init__
[19:22] <rye> dobey, so this turns up right when the applet is started. Even if syncdaemon crashes, the applet happily says 'smile!'
[19:23] <dobey> yes well
[19:24] <dobey> the applet also doesn't exist any more :)
[19:24] <rye> i see that the system usually says 'everything is fine' or 'doing something to make everything fine'. The third state, i.e. unknown state is replaced by 'everything is fine'
[19:24] <rye> dobey, it still exists in karmic
[19:24] <dobey> rye: ignorance is bliss :)
[19:26] <rye> dobey, mmmm... i believe that is not what the people think who put their files to Ubuntu One folder
[19:45] <dobey> i should blog or something
[20:01] <aquarius> going to eat some dinner. back in a while.
[20:24] <duanedesign> CardinalFang: where are you accessing the PyCon talks at. I am  not immediately seeing them on us.PyCon.org?
[20:26] <duanedesign> CardinalFang: aha, i found pycon.blip.tv. That should keep me happy for awhile :)
[20:27] <artir> one.ubuntu.com/music/store-no-forthewin!
[20:30] <dobey> http://isthemusicstorereadyyet.com
[20:53] <artir> well, but it can be accessed
[20:53] <artir> it is there
[22:00]  * rye is shutting down, hopefully tomorrow will be more productive
[22:35] <rickspencer3> johnlea, hi
[22:36] <dobey> rickspencer3: i'm guessing he's long off for now, being almost 11 pm :)
[22:36] <rickspencer3> ah
[22:36] <rickspencer3> makes sense
[22:36] <rickspencer3> I'll log a bug
[22:37] <rickspencer3> dobey, assign it directly to John?
[22:38] <dobey> please
[22:47] <wojtek> Helo Is there any way to remove a machine registered to ubuntuone ?
[22:48] <wojtek> becouse always when I try to do this, I get error with very cheap infomration 500 something gone worng or sth
[22:48] <dobey> there's a web page where you can select one or more and click "Delete" I think
[22:49] <wojtek> Yes yes there is a web
[22:49] <wojtek> one.ubuntucom/account
[22:49] <wojtek> but as I said it doesnt work for me
[22:49] <sanderqd> same problem here if i remember correctly
[22:50] <joshuahoover> wojtek, sanderqd: this is a known issue that needs to be fixed...apologies for the current inconvenience
[22:51] <joshuahoover> wojtek, sanderqd: bug #524193 is the bug we're tracking against (fyi)
[22:51] <wojtek> joshuahoover: One more question
[22:51] <joshuahoover> wojtek: sure
[22:52] <wojtek> joshuahoover: After installing ubuntuone client and connecting to the cloud
[22:52] <wojtek> joshuahoover: I had to register my computer into ubuntuone
[22:53] <wojtek> joshuahoover: Then I wanted to synchronize with tomboy
[22:54] <wojtek> joshuahoover: I've configured Tomboy to use ubuntuone and after that configuration I was asked to register my computer to ubuntuOne ... hmm.. once again
[22:54] <joshuahoover> wojtek: yes, that is correct
[22:54] <dobey> wojtek: tomboy has to get a separate token
[22:55] <joshuahoover> wojtek: tomboy synchronizes a bit differently than our other services and (unfortunately) requires this duplicate step
[22:55] <dobey> wojtek: that will likely change for lucid+1 though, as we hope to get tomboy to store notes directly in desktopcouch, rather than using the separate web sync protocol it has
[22:55] <wojtek> joshuahoover: Ok but I gave the same name of computer for Tomboy and UbuntuOne client :(
[22:55] <joshuahoover> what dobey says :)
[22:55] <joshuahoover> wojtek: ah, ok, and you want to maybe just remove it for files but not tomboy? something like that?
[22:56] <wojtek> joshuahoover: And I have to the same machines registered
[22:56] <dobey> wojtek: the name is only for your convenience. they're still different tokens, it doesn't matter if you give them the same text description
[22:56] <dobey> though you won't know which one is which I guess
[22:56] <wojtek> joshuahoover: So there are no conflicts ?
[22:56] <dobey> wojtek: everything will work fine. you just won't know which one is which if you want to remove one and not the other at some point
[22:57] <joshuahoover> wojtek: right, there are no conflicts there, you just wouldn't know which is which by the name
[22:57] <dobey> wojtek: though you could compare the token value itself to clarify that
[22:57] <wojtek> joshuahoover: Ok
[22:58] <wojtek> joshuahoover: The next issue is that I can not synchronize notes in Tomboy  - Failed to synchronize
[22:58] <joshuahoover> wojtek: ok, to help debug that, can you do the following? 1) quit tomboy 2) open a terminal session 3) run: tomboy --debug
[22:59] <wojtek> joshuahoover:  ok
[22:59] <joshuahoover> wojtek: 4) try to sync your notes in tomboy
[23:02] <wojtek> joshuahoover:  hmm now I see I have to configure ubuntuone access in Tomboy once again and it want me to add a computer once again :P
[23:02] <wojtek> joshuahoover:  It is weird
[23:03] <joshuahoover> wojtek: hmmm...how long ago did you have to do this for tomboy?
[23:03] <joshuahoover> wojtek: i'm wondering if it's related to the switch to the new single sign on (sso) service
[23:04] <wojtek> joshuahoover:  I've not heard of SSO
[23:05] <joshuahoover> wojtek: it's the site you login to for ubuntu one, launchpad, etc.
[23:07] <joshuahoover> wojtek: any progress?
[23:08] <wojtek> joshuahoover:  I'm thinking about that sso :)
[23:08] <dobey> i don't think the SSO is related to getting an oauth token (other than the fact that you have to log in, on the web)
[23:08] <dobey> but that's not inside tomboy, so i don't see how it would affect it
[23:08] <dobey> unless tomboy just never gets a token back
[23:09] <wojtek> joshuahoover:  Ok I've managed to run TomBoy in debug mode
[23:09] <joshuahoover> wojtek: do you get the same error syncing notes?
[23:10] <wojtek> joshuahoover:  And now trying to synchronize
[23:10] <wojtek> joshuahoover:  Yes
[23:10] <wojtek> joshuahoover:  Could not synchronize. Check the details below and try again
[23:10] <wojtek> joshuahoover:  There are no details listed :(
[23:10] <joshuahoover> wojtek: do you see any errors in the console?
[23:10] <wojtek> joshuahoover:  No no errors in the console
[23:11] <wojtek> joshuahoover:  Only useless information about program itself
[23:11] <wojtek> joshuahoover:  Wait a while
[23:12] <joshuahoover> wojtek: can you paste the last 10-20 lines of that output to http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[23:13] <wojtek> joshuahoover:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/381895/
[23:14] <joshuahoover> wojtek: that looks like a parsing error...was tomboy sync ever working for you?
[23:14] <wojtek> joshuahoover:  yes it was working without any problems, but I have reinstalled system
[23:15] <joshuahoover> wojtek: ok, i'm not sure if this is a new issue or not...we recently updated the way notes are parsed on the server side but i thought the sync issues like this (not web ui related ones) were addressed
[23:18] <wojtek> joshuahoover: I think that I have to make some more trials to resolve that problem. I have many similar problems since I am using kubuntu but all of them are caused by my lack of knowledge how to work on that system. I'm still newbie to linux
[23:18] <dobey> joshuahoover: it looks like it might be pulling a broken note from the server
[23:18] <joshuahoover> dobey: ah, ok...i was looking through bugs to see if any similar ones have been filed...haven't found anything
[23:19] <wojtek> joshuahoover:  Now I wonder if there is a method to remove a computer registered to ubuntuone ?
[23:19] <wojtek> joshuahoover:  Any method to achieve that ?
[23:20] <joshuahoover> wojtek: until bug #524193 is fixed and released, i don't think so unless dobey knows a way
[23:20] <dobey> joshuahoover: well, I'm just guessing based on the fact that it's XmlReader that's throwing the exception there
[23:20] <wojtek> dobey: broken note You say
[23:21] <dobey> no, the coontrol panel doesn't have the list of all devices, and a button to remove them, yet
[23:21] <wojtek> dobey: I'll try to remove all notes from server, and we will see
[23:23] <wojtek> dobey: It was a broken note :)
[23:24] <dobey> :)
[23:24] <wojtek> dobey, joshuahoover: Now It can synchronize
[23:24] <joshuahoover> wojtek: very good...thanks dobey!
[23:24] <wojtek> dobey, thanks
[23:26] <wojtek> I'm about to create an Akonadi resource which will use a desktopcouch backend to store PIM data
[23:27] <wojtek> And I am playing with ubuntuone.. In my opinion it would be much more usefull
[23:27] <wojtek> If there will be ports to other OS