[00:00] ok [00:01] Sachse_Siechtum: works! awesome. i had to turn on the mixer of my mic's driver. [00:02] how do i do that from the terminal? [00:02] :-) [00:02] I have no idea [00:02] Sachse_Siechtum: thank you man [00:02] I just manage my columes with the volume thing symbol on the upper right [00:02] No bother... [00:02] I just finished watching "the road" ... [00:03] Sachse_Siechtum: don't say anything. i want to watch it. [00:03] ok. :-) [00:03] i just watched district9 and the serogate [00:03] loved both [00:03] district nine was awesome :-) [00:03] I wanna watch serogate. any good? [00:04] surrogate [00:04] yes. i really liked it [00:04] :-) [00:05] i also liked AI [00:05] i like futuristic movies about the humen race [00:05] me too...well except the ending [00:05] it should have ended with the pixi statue [00:05] what's pixi? [00:06] ir fairy [00:06] or [00:06] where he is underwater and finds this statue [00:06] everything what camer after that didnt really fit... [00:06] i actually really liked those robots [00:07] yeah but the ending was with these aliens... [00:07] and was happy to see how the world looks like [00:07] I dunno... [00:07] oh and I have to say....the road is the best post apocalyptic movie I have seen yet [00:07] alot like "Mad Max 2" and "a boy and his dog" [00:08] i listen to an interview with the director or screenwriter. sounds interesting. [00:08] :-) [00:08] I find the one trailer I saw...is kinda misleading [00:08] because you think there will be action all the time...but its not. [00:11] i never watch trailers. i prefer not to know the movie name if i can. [00:11] i don't want to know if i am suppose to cry/laugh/etc [00:12] hehe yeah [00:12] that's why i was a bit surprise with district9 [00:12] trailers can be very misleading [00:12] surprised [00:12] when i see trailer i think to myself - just tell me how the movie ended [00:12] they tell u too much [00:13] hehe yeah [00:13] my wife just picks movies and i sit and watch [00:13] i wish they didn't show the name at all [00:14] and i wish they keep the original name for foreign movies [00:14] so i will not be able to say it [00:14] hehe [00:14] so have you watched "das boot"? [00:14] no [00:15] ask your wife to get that movie :-) [00:15] i will, only if u'r not kidding [00:15] it has english audio and german audio with subtitles [00:15] and tell her to get the directors cut [00:15] r u german? [00:15] yes Iam, and you? :-) [00:16] Israeli [00:16] do u know the site hospitality club? [00:16] i hosted 2 crazy germans when i lived in san diego [00:16] ah couch surfing [00:16] why crazy? [00:16] they did some crazy stuff before leaving my place. [00:17] example? [00:17] and told me to watch a movie that explain their behaviour [00:17] let me find it. [00:17] ok [00:18] i can't remember, it's about young kids that ruin other people's house. they leave a mess [00:18] to make their point [00:18] about materialisem [00:18] and capitalisem [00:18] hmmm dunno what movie that could be [00:19] http://www.amazon.com/Edukators-Knut-Berger/dp/6302020816 [00:20] The Edukators [00:21] you should watch this movie: http://www.amazon.com/Lives-Others-Martina-Gedeck/dp/B000OVLBGC/ref=pd_bxgy_d_text_c [00:22] its an awesome movie. [00:23] Sachse_Siechtum: before i watch it, u got to understand that i didn't like the Edukators at all. [00:23] ah I havent watched it... [00:24] should i still watch your last one. [00:24] ? [00:24] what kinda movie do you like most? [00:26] documentaries or based on true stories - 'dust of war', 'the breach', stuff like vbs - http://www.vbs.tv/watch/the-vice-guide-to-travel/the-vice-guide-to-liberia-1-of-8 [00:26] ah :-) [00:26] Manda Bala - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0912590/ [00:26] well "the life of other" could be based on true stories.. [00:27] "An examination of corruption and class warfare in Brazil as told through the stories of a wealthy businessman, a plastic surgeon who assists kidnapping victims and a politician whose income relies on a frog farm." [00:27] hmm interesting [00:29] so your list is - das boot, lives others [00:29] the lives of others [00:29] well I like alot movies...I got some all time favourites...like... [00:29] "leon the professional" [00:30] adding to my list [00:30] "Carlitos way" [00:30] "lord of the rings 1-3" [00:30] "the parfum" [00:31] "insomnia" [00:31] (with Al Pacino" [00:31] ) [00:31] ok. it's enough [00:31] (-: [00:32] hehe [00:32] hmm any ideas why xubuntu would not notice my audio cds? [00:32] I can see it in the "driver manager" but it won't mount [00:32] did u try from the terminal [00:33] I dunno why...it used to work... [00:33] I dunno how... [00:33] ubuntu has a few logs u can look at [00:33] where? [00:34] one of them is accesible via the command dmesg. [00:34] try it [00:34] just dmesg? [00:34] yes [00:35] [ 5511.212049] sr 1:0:1:0: [sr1] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track [00:35] [ 5511.212056] end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 0 [00:36] io error. not sure what it means, but u can try post it on ubuntuforums [00:36] [ 2929.053274] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 0 [00:36] [ 2929.053281] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 1 [00:36] [ 2929.053285] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 2 [00:36] [ 2929.053288] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 3 [00:36] [ 2929.053291] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 4 [00:36] [ 2929.053294] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 5 [00:36] [ 2929.053297] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 6 [00:36] [ 2929.053300] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 7 [00:36] lots of that one [00:37] data dvds or cds work flawless [00:42] interesting [00:42] I'm about to register in the ubuntu forums :-) [00:43] just finding out if I have a launchpad name *g* [00:43] ?? only now? dude, it's the first thing u should do. [00:43] first search for your issue, and u can register to threads and get emails. [00:43] taking my dog out. will be back [00:43] I know. :-) I'm a bad boy . :-( [00:44] have fun :-) [00:44] will watch all your list and report back. [00:44] (of movies) [00:45] ok *smile* [01:45] hello need some help with xubuntu ppc [01:48] What's the problem and I'll see if I can help ya =) [01:51] using imac 35 [01:51] sorry imac 350 xubuntu 9.04 live cd [01:51] everything works great but colors are crazy [01:52] i am surprised that the wireless work out of the box but my colors are funky [01:52] :-$ [01:53] imac G3 350 512 megs ram [01:54] the mac is running tiger but i am testing this before i decide if delete all and install just xubuntu [01:55] can you help me ? [01:57] Sorry, I'm afraid I can't =( [01:58] ok thanks anyway i will keep looking bye [01:58] If your just saying colors are inverted, you could try pressing "option + x" (I believe that is the correct term for your keyboard) [01:59] The equivalent of the windows key on a generic keyboard [01:59] Sorry, "option + m" [02:03] well i think inverted is the easy way to explain.... everything look very funky (colors) i think i need to config xorg but dont know how [02:05] The xorg file is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf - Unfortunately, I'm not the greatest with editing xorg =( [02:06] ok [02:06] brb [02:10] so i type... "sudo /etc/x11/xorg.conf" ??/ [02:11] If you have the text editor gedit, you can use gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf [02:11] If not, substitute your text editor for gedit [02:12] note that linux is case sensitive, so it does have to have a capital "X" in X11 [02:15] well, considering there is no xorg.conf file by default you don't need to be good anymore. :D [02:16] Wha? Mine still has one o.O [02:17] I havent had one for quite a while.. you're running the non-free nv/ati drivers, arent ya? [02:17] Maybe.... =D [02:17] ;) [02:17] I can't play Guild Wars without them =( [02:18] Well, not smoothly [02:18] Yeah, I run Intel so I don't need to hack anything its all supported out of the box [02:18] yay me [02:18] That's my one problem with Linux, hardware manufacturers hate it =( [02:19] well... [02:19] Not ATi [02:19] Considering they've completely opened the spec on their cards to FOSS. [02:19] Eh, they're getting better, still not great though [02:19] Give it time [02:21] 2304 frames in 5.0 seconds <-- Not bad for an Intel chip, imo [02:22] ryan___: ed is the standard editor :[ [02:29] dahaic: Well, apparently syn-ack is telling me I'm a dumbass anyway =P [02:33] ryan___: I would never say that to someone. [02:33] Ok, well I'm lying but I didnt say it to you. :P [02:33] =D I know you didn't actually say it, but you proved me wrong and made me look like a dumbass ;) [02:34] wasn't my intention. :P [02:35] Rofl [02:36] Someone on the forums is pissed at me =D [02:36] meh [02:37] I've got at least one person a week pissed at me on the forums [02:37] ryan___: They'll get over it. ;) [02:37] He said stupid things to two or three people that I disputed, and I just saw where he posted in a new one "Ozymandias_117 may well have have an opinion if the above thought may be useful or useless." [05:53] what is more supported for Linux, Nvidia geforce 6200 256 mb or an Ati Radeon X1650 PRO 512mb [05:53] I need the tv out to work [06:08] <_Techie_> Nvidia, if your comparing against the X series [06:09] <_Techie_> !ati [06:09] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [06:09] <_Techie_> just some light reading [06:13] good morning xubuntu developers, engineers, coders and curious observers. [06:14] <_Techie_> morning Balsaq [06:15] <_Techie_> i managed to smooth talk my way into putting a 1TB drive into my PC [06:15] whoah thats a ton of storage [06:15] <_Techie_> so now im combo'ing, 120gig + 190gig + 1TB [06:16] <_Techie_> the TB is currently running through pATA (IDE) but when i get the cash ill run it via sata [09:13] I'm making a standalone "remote support" VNC applet. I can't test it on my LAN, because I have a different external IP address. How else can I test it, other than by being connected to two different networks at once? [09:14] _Techie_ do you know anything about this? its not for me... [09:14] <_Techie_> test it using your internal IP [09:15] <_Techie_> and as long as you have your external ip right an dforwarding set up correctly itl work [09:19] I can't test it on the LAN [09:19] I don't have two Windows PCs [09:19] I don't think VNC on Ubuntu can be set to "listen mode" [09:20] Balsaq, well, with x11vnc, you are able to do that [09:21] Balsaq, and you can start x11vnc from ssh [09:22] hmmm, let me ponder that for a moment thank you, please standby if possible... [09:22] <__Techie__> my computer froze [09:22] <__Techie__> anyway, back to what i was gonna say [09:22] <__Techie__> VNC is not windows reliant [09:23] <__Techie__> there are clients and servers for all platforms [09:28] welcome back _Techie_ [09:28] <_Techie_> grr my computer keeps locking up trying to format this damn drive [09:28] good morning gnome [09:29] <_Techie_> just to let you know, my pc could lock up again [09:29] <_Techie_> ill let you know if it doesnt this time [09:29] 10-4.... [09:32] * knome goes to fill the dishwasher, bbl [09:36] ok gnome [09:49] Balsaq, the nick is spelled with k, not g ;) [09:50] woops [09:50] anyway, all the dishes fit in [09:50] yay [09:51] di the fins beat the swedes tonight (hockey)? [09:51] did* [09:51] nope, lost 3-30 [09:51] ehm [09:51] 3-0 [09:51] the swedes are tough [09:52] yeah. but finns are the best seconds/lucky losers, so we get free pass to the semifinals [09:52] or are those called quarterfinals [09:52] well anyway [09:52] stopped at a pub on the way home and was watching it for a bit [09:52] heh [09:53] coders and hockey champions they are! [10:02] <_Techie_> finaly got that drive formatted up and ready to go [10:13] congrats [10:13] i did the only obligatory schoolwork this week [10:16] <_Techie_> ??? [10:16] ? [10:16] <_Techie_> i did the only obligatory schoolwork this week [10:17] yup? [10:17] #offtopic? [10:17] Sysi, quiet? [10:17] <_Techie_> i agree with knone [10:17] <_Techie_> knome* [10:17] (i'll join there :P) [10:17] 12:32 Sysi: half an hour over midday here :) [10:17] ^ offtopic [10:17] :P [10:18] harhar [10:18] ;] [10:18] <_Techie_> wihtout offtopic idle chatter this channel would seem absolutely dead and very un inviting to new members [10:18] knome: i'm jealous for university students [10:19] i wonder if i should take the vacuum cleanar out of the closet [10:19] i'm on english lesson currently [10:19] Sysi, university? i'm only in univ. of applied sciences :P [10:20] that's university too :b [10:20] okay, if you say so. [10:20] close enough :) [10:20] heh [10:20] not really [10:20] but okay ;) [10:21] how long you've studied there? [10:22] soon three years [10:22] i'll graduate at the end of this year [10:22] i have still one year of high school left [10:23] not too much [10:23] <_Techie_> Sysi, by high school you mean the 13 - 118 age bracket? [10:23] <_Techie_> 18* [10:23] i wonder if one can subscribe for international magazines (in paper!) in finland [10:24] in finland 15-18 mostly [10:24] without paying awfully lot [10:24] <_Techie_> i honestly thought you were older than that sysi [10:25] <_Techie_> knome, you probably could... but postage would be a killer [10:25] probably, though sendind magazines from eg. UK wouldn't be THAT expensive.. [10:25] <_Techie_> dont be so sure [10:26] argh this wifi [10:26] i am quite, i've been ordering lots of stuff from all over the world :P [10:26] it's probably just the magazines taking some extra fees [10:26] not the actual shipping fees [10:26] it's still cheaper to order than buy from local store [10:26] <_Techie_> well, would you say a mag weighs more than a motherboard? [10:27] _Techie_, depends on the mag :) [10:27] _Techie_, what Sysi said is painfully true in finland [10:27] things are just TOTALLY expensive [10:28] i paid 16€ for one Linux Format [10:28] chss [10:29] <_Techie_> grrr, why cant there be a universal currency [10:29] well, normal price for mag is max 6€ [10:31] <_Techie_> wow, that was scary [10:32] http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_e36lp99sMDc/SRYHn0oxQjI/AAAAAAAABGg/sw7fWEeri2w/s400/074.JPG [10:32] <_Techie_> when the power connector for my gfx card isnt working, a blue light tirns on [10:32] <_Techie_> it just came on [10:32] ^ that's scary [10:32] there was dvd-with that etc but still [10:32] everything is dirt cheap here [10:38] congratulations on spoiling the nature [10:38] ;P [12:22] I can't find out how to change me xfwm4 theme. [12:22] i can change my gtk theme, just not my xfwm4 theme. [12:23] gavin_, applications -> settings -> window manager [12:24] i found it. [12:24] thanks. :) [12:24] np [12:25] Now it looks perfeccttt. [14:28] hi [14:29] can you guys tell me how to put and aditional monitor working [14:29] i have it pulged but how to pu it working [14:29] !xrandr [14:29] XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X. Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 [14:36] thnks [14:43] but now they are copied [14:43] i need like extension [14:44] use those --right-of/--left-of/--above/--below options. [14:44] they are on that site [15:24] hi there - I just installed xubuntu on a rather old fashioned pc - after updating it, the taskbar disappeared , as well as all window-title-bars -.- "xfdesktop" and "xfce-panel &" did not work - as they "are already running" [15:24] !panel [15:24] Did you panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [15:24] See that wiki page, it tells you how to resolve that issue. [15:26] okay - thanks *testing* [15:32] the panels now seem to work properly - but the title bars still are missing [15:32] that is an issue with xfwm4, I think [15:33] but I don't have a fix for it... Anyone? [15:33] I read sth about window resolution stuff - maybe you know better what that could..... mean? [15:34] something among the lines of "the resoltion is lower than the minimum" [15:35] Is this a virtual machine? [15:36] no, its a 900 MHz 1 GB RAM machine [15:37] I mean it's real ^^ [15:38] X may not have found the correct video driver; it is running in low resolution then. [15:39] Try running updates, and then restart. It may fix both the resolution and the window title issues [15:39] I just ran updates before the problems occured... [15:39] but I'll do [15:40] I thus even think that the updates caused the problems [15:43] no updates available [15:45] thanks for you help, I'll check back later ^^ [15:45] gtg, bye [15:48] pulgin for sound i can play music [15:48] can you guys help me [15:48] Sysi, [15:48] plz [15:48] what's problem actually? [15:49] no lib for play mp3 format [15:51] !info xubuntu-restricted-extras [15:52] hmm, where's the bot [15:52] !xubuntu-restricted-extras [15:52] lol [15:52] don't like us [15:52] heheheh [15:52] xubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 36 (karmic), package size 5 kB, installed size 32 kB [15:53] ach, lag [15:54] ok Sysi thnks i got the idiea [15:54] it should work now [15:55] !mp3 [15:55] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [15:55] there you go [15:58] Hello Subspider. :-) [15:59] hello Sachse_Siechtum [15:59] How you doing? [16:00] fine and yo [16:01] steel with the amd mark on the corner of the screen [16:01] lol [16:01] Fine, too. :-) [16:01] hehe [16:01] can't take it out [16:01] Hmm. [16:02] is it ....like a small porgram? [16:02] do you have ati graphics card and restricted drivers? [16:06] yes Sysi [16:06] is that [16:07] i can't take the water mark out i whent to web sites [16:07] i think it's related to that [16:07] but i don't know how to deactivate [16:07] yes i know it is [16:10] subspider yesterday I registered in the ubuntu forums :-) === flame is now known as flm- [16:15] hi, how do i install xubuntu with no gui? [16:16] Use the alternate image, install minimal install or using expert mode [16:16] or use the server edition of ubuntu [16:17] hello charlie-tca [16:17] Hello, subspider [16:17] okay [16:17] can i change to terminal on the ordinary install disk? [16:18] what do you mean? [16:18] hey charlie-tca do you know simple way to take out the amd logo from ati restirted drivers [16:18] subspider: no, sorry [16:18] ok thnks [16:18] i don't have a writeable disk atm [16:19] but i do have the xubuntu install disk [16:19] If you have the desktop image, you can switch to a tty from the desktop using Ctrl+Alt+F2 [16:19] thanks! [16:43] Hi. I'm running Xubuntu Karmic live USB at this point. I would like to access two partitions of my HD where accidently I removed all boot and root files. I would like only to access the two partitions where I have same data. How can I do that? [16:44] oops, sorry, missed some words [16:44] no, it's ok. can someone help me on that, please [16:45] jarbax, have you checked out /media? [16:45] knome, yes, it's unreconizeble. even with gparted [16:45] unrecognizable, i mean [16:46] what does 'fdisk -l' give in terminal? [16:46] hold pls [16:48] knome, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m574ac0af , pls [16:48] jarbax, okay, then what does 'mount' say? [16:50] knome, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d33ac3c59 [16:50] at the bottom [16:50] jarbax, okay. type 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt' and try to navigate to /mnt [16:51] ok :) [16:51] jarbax, that should be the root fs. /dev/sda2 for the other (apparently /home) fs [16:51] thanks knome for your time [16:51] np [16:51] have fun with xubuntu [16:52] knome, damn :( this live installation defaulted to portuguese... well it says i need to specify the filesystem [16:53] filetype [16:53] umm.. [16:53] a sec [16:53] it only could be ext3 or 4 for the first partituion [16:53] sory for the typos [16:54] grr sorry also hehehe [16:55] 'mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt' ? [16:55] knome, if i can can all data from the second partition (sda2) i would be already happy. that's where i have most of data i need [16:55] +sudo [16:55] ok [16:56] trying again [16:56] sorry for pasting here... [16:57] wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, [16:57] missing codepage or helper program, or other error [16:57] Em alguns casos informações úteis são encontradas no syslog - tente [16:57] "dmesg | tail" ou algo do tipo [16:57] then try ext4 [16:57] ok [16:57] geez.. the same [16:57] i doubt it if i did with ext2 but i'll try with that one too [16:58] okay, so the supoerblock is probably broken [16:58] same with ext2 :( [16:58] try 'sudo fsck /dev/sda2' [16:59] i ware installing a clean Xubuntu on another drive and then i staert deleting files :( mi mistake in remooving root ones [16:59] mi = my [16:59] ok [16:59] 2 [16:59] oops [17:00] knome, for sda2: fsck.ext2: Superblock invalid, trying backup blocks... [17:00] Superblock has an invalid journal (inode 8) [17:01] did it stop running? [17:01] knome, it's ok if you can't help, don't worry. i'm only trying... [17:02] no, it says: Delete? [17:02] jarbax, we'll get it fixed. [17:02] umm, let me check [17:02] it stops at that point: Superblock has an invalid journal (inode 8). [17:02] Apagar? [17:03] means = Delete ? [17:03] yeah, probably you should answer yes... [17:03] ok [17:03] knome, *** ext3 journal has been deleted - filesystem is now ext2 only *** [17:03] Superblock has_journal flag is clear, but a journal inode is present. [17:03] Apagar? [17:04] Delete? (Y) [17:04] yes [17:04] k [17:04] /dev/sda2 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced. [17:04] Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes [17:04] Journal inode is not in use, but contains data. Apagar? yes [17:04] "Delete? Y [17:04] yup [17:05] ok [17:05] hehehe [17:05] now i know one more word in portuguese at least [17:05] you learn something new every day [17:06] hehhehe [17:06] but if someone asks you in portuguese. do you want cofee? dont say Apagar [17:06] hah [17:07] wouldn't know if somebody asked me if i wanted coffee in portuguese [17:07] for some reason is taking too long. can i restart all process? [17:07] nope [17:07] give it time [17:07] it's checking your filesystem [17:07] ahh ok [17:08] if i save that partition it will be great [17:08] i'm 99,99% sure you will [17:10] knome, "Running additional passes to resolve blocks claimed by more than one inode... [17:10] Pass 1B: Rescanning for multiply-claimed blocks [17:10] Multiply-claimed block(s) em inode 16: 629766 629767 629768 629769 629770 629771 629772 629773 629774 629775" [17:10] and keep going [17:10] yep, give it time [17:10] it's doing the linux magic [17:11] knome, i'm sorry if i'm interrupting what you were doing [17:11] nah, i'm here voluntarily [17:11] besides i was only enjoying myself and listening to music [17:11] and i can still do it [17:12] well, i know sometimes ppl is working at same time. i used to help ppl on irc too [17:12] sometimes i do that as well ;) [17:13] but i think the responsibility is with the one who is answering. do not answer if you can't take some time off [17:13] i'm glad irc is still strong. i'm on this since BBSs [17:13] almost before "internet" [17:13] heh, yeah [17:13] i barely remember the bbs times [17:14] we used to call 800 numbers in order to connet to others. [17:14] heh [17:14] hehe [17:14] connect... [17:15] * charlie-tca thinks they call that "the good old days" [17:15] yeah [17:15] i thought it was called "the time before dinosaurs" [17:15] *remembers good old lan party days* [17:15] hehehe [17:15] actually, the old lan parties were not that nice. the connections were lousy [17:15] *quake I and house of chrichton* [17:15] ours were good [17:16] we used null cabling [17:16] :P [17:16] 'when lan was lan, not some wireless thingy' [17:16] yeah those sucked [17:16] I'm still using lan [17:16] :-( [17:16] wlan sucks pingwise [17:16] lan ♥ [17:16] :-) [17:16] i'm wired as well [17:16] no idea in using wifi in a desktop machine [17:16] can't move this anyway [17:16] hehe geek channel *g* [17:17] you guys now the gpf webcomic? [17:17] knome, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d3413daae at the end [17:17] i'd be surprised if #xubuntu on freenode *WASN'T* a geek channel [17:17] at the end [17:18] wow w95 FAT32 that partition.. [17:18] i think yes for all [17:18] ok [17:18] know [17:18] * [17:18] rr72: bug 525434 [17:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/525434 is fix-committed; already been worked [17:19] charlie-tca, we're in the progress of getting the slides in the next alpha. [17:19] saw email :-D [17:19] great! we start testing tuesday [17:19] charlie-tca, that's tomorrow? :P [17:19] yup [17:19] okay. [17:19] i hope we will get the slides in the alpha [17:19] Alpha3 release is thursday [17:20] did the merge request this morning [17:20] should make it then [17:20] i also subscribed to xubuntu bug team and testers, but i can't help with karmic anymore cause not running it [17:20] rr72, you can install karmic in vbox [17:20] That's okay. If the bugs can't be reproduced in lucid, they are normally considered fixed [17:21] what about the newest one? [17:22] about the logging in [17:23] You can install VBox from the ppa. https://launchpad.net/~debfx/+archive/virtualbox [17:23] What number? [17:24] knome, *** journal has been re-created - filesystem is now ext3 again *** [17:24] /dev/sda2: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED ***** [17:24] /dev/sda2: 70143/6144000 files (2.1% non-contiguous), 19191280/24557360 blocks [17:24] ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ [17:24] spam... sorry [17:24] SPAMMER [17:24] :_P [17:24] then try 'sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /mnt' again [17:24] i know /me slap myself with a very small trout [17:25] ok knome :) [17:26] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/525476 [17:26] YESSSSSS you've got it knome !!! Thanks a lot. after backing up this partition i would do the same process with sda1 [17:26] jarbax, yep. np. have fun :) [17:27] jarbax, you have to unmount the current partition before you remount the other to /mnt (sudo umount /mnt) [17:27] charlie-tca~ are you the only one active on bugs? [17:27] hank you so much knome . I'm giving 5 ***** on your net rating [17:27] jarbax, hehe. i already got billions of stars ;) [17:27] lol [17:27] i bert you do [17:27] et [17:27] pretty much, there are a couple of people will do some once in a while, though [17:28] grr i bet you do i mean.. damn fingers [17:28] jarbax, heh :) [17:28] rr72, i'm always free to be used in testing something, but you specifically have to ask me.. [17:28] rr72: I am the bug team leader in Xubuntu [17:28] rr72, now i'm going to do a private spamming on you. j/k :) :) [17:29] do you subscribe lionel to all the bugs? :-P [17:29] charlie-tca, but not the bug expert <;P [17:29] That goes to mr_pouit [17:29] charlie-tca~ thought cody was, or he just over all team leadter? [17:29] rr72, cody was the project leader, but he resigned. [17:29] He was the team leader, it is now mr_pouit [17:29] charlie-tca, quicker than you again, as usual [17:30] (gonna be a good evening for both of us then, i suppose) [17:30] since when? wow I am a little late on the news. he is owner in LP groups is why i asked [17:30] * charlie-tca thinks knome got answers on single key shortcuts [17:30] * rr72 agrees w/ charlie-tca [17:30] rr72, nov 30 [17:30] since about 3 months? [17:30] rr72, umm no, nov 7 [17:31] wtf?! [17:31] shortcut again! [17:31] er [17:31] http://cody.zapto.org/?p=71 [17:31] forgot !coc ;) [17:31] not used to having to abide by it ;) [17:31] f is a letter [17:32] rr72: That's you? [17:32] what's me? [17:32] on the bug, I mean [17:32] no no no [17:32] wow, he must be light if he can stand on top of a bug.. [17:32] i just joined xubuntu bug team, i didnt see you already replied and changed it [17:32] bug 525476 ; the dmesg shows the kernel is tainted, but I don't know if that affects the login or not [17:33] It may be the same as the nvidia - plymouth bug again [17:33] this is koala or lynx? [17:33] k - Xubuntu 9.10 [17:33] InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 9.10 "Karmic Koala" - Release i386 (20091028.5) [17:33] I try to use the numbers after the release. It becomes less confusing [17:34] kk [17:34] Yeah, but he upgrades, that will still be there. === jarbax is now known as lcb [17:34] oh I see what you are saying [17:34] This is from the upgrade to Xfce 4.6, maybe, too [17:34] We got a lot of these after that happened. [17:35] ok off to get something to eat, eating is good to do to sustain life ;) [17:35] That's why I will give some suggestions, then will mark it confirmed if I can't figure it out. [17:45] ...aaaand we're back to a dead channel again [17:45] :P [17:46] too bad *g* [17:46] http://www.gpf-comics.com [17:47] uh [17:48] Yes? :-) [17:48] nothing [17:48] ok [17:48] and dead is bad? [17:48] not just my cup of tea [17:48] charlie-tca, well, it's way more boring than alive [17:49] I agree. got any ideas to bring it back to life/ [17:49] ? [17:49] topless girls? [17:49] free coffee? [17:49] a nasty bug? [17:49] LOL [17:50] making xubuntu "Windows ME" bugged? [17:50] *evil laugh* [17:50] I can make the coffee [17:50] I get the girls *g* [17:50] what's with *G*? [17:50] (grin) [17:51] oh ok [17:51] rr72 is back? how was lunch? [17:52] it was alright :-D [17:52] If you want / need any help with bugs, ask in #xubuntu-devel [17:52] charlie-tca, what about my problem? [17:52] feel free to jump right in [17:53] knome: which one? there are too many to remember [17:53] charlie-tca, at boot time, the second partition has to be fsck'd and for some reason, the boot process goes on into the login [17:53] charlie-tca, then i login, and the partition is not mounted still. and will not be, since fsck seems to be stuck. [17:54] i'm reviewing old bugs now. all the way back to 8.04 [17:54] charlie-tca, running fsck manually goes nicely through with no weird errors even with -v [17:54] I thought that was fixed [17:54] well, by me yes [17:54] I don't see it in lucid [17:54] charlie-tca~ talkijng in 3 channels right now, sorry lol [17:54] right. was it a KNOWN bug? [17:55] I think so, but maybe it never got filed. I used to see it sometimes, too. [17:55] charlie-tca, okay. you can't know how relieved i am - really! [17:56] I know. It gets real frustrating sometimes [17:57] it's not frustrating, it's scary when you think you've lost that one file you didn't backup and need right now and can't "reproduce" quickly enough if the HD is broken [17:58] yup, that too [17:59] now i can forget taking backups again without worrying, phew [17:59] ;) [18:08] nope [18:08] * charlie-tca would be very worried [18:09] * charlie-tca can't remember why, though ;-) [18:09] ;) [18:09] hehe [18:09] bbl [18:47] Do you guys know the Ubuntu pocket guide? === Pricey_ is now known as Pricey [21:09] guys what is the best bittorrent client for xfce [21:09] ?? [21:10] Depends on your preferences ;-) [21:10] hey vinnl!! :-D [21:10] Xubuntu includes Transmission by default, which works fine for me [21:10] Hey rr72 :) [21:10] transmission is nice [21:11] it works, that's a plus ;) [21:11] Transmission [21:11] I like it [21:12] i prefer deluge [21:12] I had vuze for some time...but that was slow.. [21:12] subspider: I love rtorrent. [21:12] Pricey, rtorrent is command-line, right? [21:13] vinnl: mmhm :-) [21:13] ok thnks guys [21:13] no bother [21:13] hello evrybody [21:14] !hi | confusious [21:14] confusious: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! [21:17] hey,can anybody tell me if there is a way to restore my desktop from a patricular date ? I've had some problems lately with all kinds of things.A disappearing desktop is one.I've rstored from this morn but,I have lost ALOT of files/folders over the last year because of them just disappearing at random [21:17] confusious, if you have a backup system in place, yes, but otherwise I don't think so [21:18] That said, a disappearing desktop shouldn't lead to your files disappearing [21:19] hmmmmm can you tell me where these files/folders go when they mysteriously disappear from xubuntus desktop ? [21:19] my xubuntu has been doing this for about a year now but when the whole desktop disappears THAT'S when I really start worrying [21:20] wjat do you mean desktop disappeears? [21:20] confusious, everything should still be in the folder /home//Desktop [21:20] EVERYTHING...all my files/folders [21:21] okay ,thanks you vinn [21:21] open a terminal and "ls ~/Desktop" and see if they are in there [21:22] or thunar [21:23] okay rr i've done that...... & everything that's on top right now is ther but I've lost alot over the last year & it's just really getting to be bothersome [21:24] confusious, so, what do you mean by desktop disappearing? [21:25] is thunar able to do network browsing yet - is the GIO/GVFS support integrated in ? [21:25] all my files/folders that were there [21:25] SandGorgon, will be in the next version, but that's not out yet officially [21:25] confusious, but you can still see your wallpaper? [21:26] vinnl, u mean lucid ? [21:26] SandGorgon, no the next version of Thunar. There might be a PPA that includes it [21:26] vinnl, ok... [21:27] no,no.....i've restored evrything that got lost about 30 mins ago BUT.....I'd like to be able to restore from say like 2 weeks ago when EVRYTHING got lost [21:28] confusious, but you can still see your wallpaper? [21:28] i did a ff update & EVERYTHING got f'd up BIG TIME........... [21:28] How did you do that update? [21:29] ff reset itself lost all my bookmarks & ev4rythingg & basically at same time my desktop {most of it} disappeared before my eyes [21:29] Did your wallpaper disappear?\ [21:30] what do you mean how ?..I was informed that there were some updates for ff automatically by my sys.....so I clicked ?? [21:30] yes [21:31] wallpaper was renewed too [21:31] My comp has just taken a real beating over the last week [21:32] OK an update the official way shouldn't cause problems... Sounds like xfdesktop was closed but restarted [21:32] Still doesn't explain disappearing files [21:32] Were the files that disappeared all located on yoru desktop? [21:33] yes all on desk [21:36] I have actually found all of tyhose but WHY did this happen ? why did this update make all my files/folders from desktop diasappear & seem to freshly install xubunt ? [21:36] Yeah I'm at a loss too, never heard of this before [21:36] Perhaps they can help you in #xfce [21:37] that seems to be everybody I thinkit's because of such a shitty system [21:37] hmmmmm that's an idea huh ? [21:37] What? [21:37] didn't think of that [21:38] #xfce [21:38] another quick quest....... does #xubuntu-offtopic still exist ? [21:39] Yep [21:39] /join #xubuntu-offtopic [21:39] I seem to be having some issues with pidgin now too [21:47] vinn you still there ? [21:48] confusious, yep [21:48] I tried /join #xfce...... [21:49] mess came back & said "cannot send to channel " ?????? [21:49] confusious: what did you install besides Xubuntu? [21:50] confusious, I can see you in #xfce [21:51] hmmmmm ? what exactly do you mean ? it seems to be sending th messager I type but its telling me cannot send to channel [21:52] Hmm, that's odd :S I'm not well versed in IRC so I can't really tell what the problem is :S [21:53] is the nick registered? [21:53] what did you mean "what did you install besides xubuntu"? [21:53] actually no this nick is not registered [21:53] Did you install ubuntu, kubuntu, lxde, ?? [21:54] just xubuntu on this system [21:54] The nick has to be registered to have voice in xfce, I think. [21:54] hmmmmmm yeah thats a possibility I did read something about something like that somewhere [21:55] Did you install compiz? [21:56] copiz ? not that I know of I could check I suppose [21:57] You'd know :) [21:57] I can't think of anything else would make the desktop unstable [21:57] is there an easier way to see if a package is installed then a -s remove? [21:58] synaptic says compiz not installed [22:00] rr72, open up Synaptic ;-) [22:01] apt-cache policy [22:03] hmmmmmm well I'm gonna go back to "work" he heh thanks alot everybody.I guess all those files/folders I've lost over the past year are just lost......1 bit of info........ when this happened last week & everything began disappearing b4 my eyes there was a file on the dektop I had called "funny pics" & it seems that everything else that was on the desktop got put into this folder !! [22:04] Hmm, just wondering, but... Couldn't be a prank of a coworker or something? ;-) [22:06] vinnl~ was wondering same thing :-P [22:06] I was thinking could it be something someone has done ? this os was instlled over a year ago by a geek "friend" my girlfreinds sisterzs boyfriend & we live with my gf's bro who is also a geek [22:07] could some the installer did cause this ? remember this was installe dover a year ago [22:07] ty charlie-tca , that is useful information [22:08] confusious, no, he should've written special software for that I suppose [22:08] You are welcome [22:10] vinn-you still here pal ? [22:10] Yes [22:12] okay a couple more things ... first what do you think of what I said above AND......when I did "xfdesktop&" in terminal this morn term came back with a reply of " [1] 5687........ what's that mean ? [22:14] confusious, that's because of the &. That allows you to run the process without taking control of your terminal window [22:14] The number is the process ID [22:14] ahhhh [22:16] well thanks for all the info I gonna go "back to work" before I runout of internet.they were suypposed to have shut us off already.pretty lucky there I guess [22:17] :) [22:27] what is a minimal set of xubuntu(xfce) packages I need to get a desktop with an xterm to launch apps? (i don't want any panels or extras or anything) [22:29] !ubuntu-minimal [22:29] !minimal [22:29] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [22:33] i already have an ubuntu install, but I need a lighter weight environment to select for running certian apps [22:33] i installed using Mimimal CD, so the question would be: instead of xubuntu-desktop, what is the minimal set of xubuntu packages I need to get a running xfce desktop [22:34] A running Xfce desktop includes a panel [22:34] But I suppose you need xfwm4 to do window management, then you could run xterm [22:34] thune~ there are other choices [22:34] unless you want xfce4 [22:34] i would use ratpoison, but I need compositing (vsync) for my application [22:37] i was going to suggest icewm, fluxbox, litewm or something along those lined [22:37] *lines [22:37] and it's not litewm, i thought there was [22:38] you might want to check lxde as an alternative lightweightr thune or just go WM with fluxbox or something [22:42] i need compositing (vsync -- no tearing/blitting) and I gathered that I have to use xfce or heavier [22:43] it looks like xfdesktop4 package or xfwm4 package are approaching minimal [22:51] thanks for the suggestions, i'll look at alternative wm's. [23:19] hello i have an interesting question for yall [23:20] i know i can dual boot xubuntu and windows and i know i can access files from windows on xubuntu [23:21] however is it possible to access files from xubuntu on windows? [23:21] If they are in placed in the common drive, I think so [23:22] they aren't [23:22] there are two hard drives [23:23] Windows does not understand the formatting used by linux except fat and ntfs [23:23] i see [23:23] as I understand it. [23:24] It really is the lesser of the two operating systems [23:24] well i suppose i could solve my problem by installing the two on the same hard drive and using the second as storage [23:24] i know thats why i made the switch to xubuntu [23:24] that would be an awesome idea [23:24] but there are still a few things windows does that linux cant [23:24] use wine [23:24] I have a Xubuntu/WinXP system btw [23:25] or a third harddrice :-P [23:25] *harddrive :-P [23:25] well wine is not perfect [23:25] me too xubuntu/win xp [23:25] I use WInXP for games and Xubuntu for everything else... [23:26] i watch netflix movies on xp and i had to do my taxes on xp [23:26] xubuntu for everything else [23:27] so to access linux files on xp do i need to do anything special or what [23:28] well as far as I know linux can't readd ext4 or 3 file format [23:28] -d [23:28] I have actually 3 partitions.. [23:29] 1 winxp 2 xubuntu 3 data [23:29] the data partition is in ntfs [23:29] so both OS can read them [23:29] yea that works for me [23:30] but i can't make my slave drive do that? [23:30] slave drive? [23:30] only if you formatted it ntfs [23:30] my second hard drive [23:30] so i could [23:30] Windows can not read the linux formats [23:30] formatting it ntfs is not a problem [23:31] i just need both to access the same files [23:31] my music and movies and shit [23:31] well..make a ntfs partition (or drive) and copy all your data onto that [23:31] sweet [23:32] afk [23:32] thank you for the help i just wanted to make sure the theory was possible [23:32] no bother [23:32] cause i already did it wrong once and had to start all over [23:32] :-) [23:33] i made a partition that neither could access and was pissed [23:34] if i have some trouble will you guys be on later so i can get some advice? [23:35] someone will be here 24 hours a day [23:35] ok thanks [23:46] charlie-tca. [23:46] How's it going, mate? [23:46] Great! yourself? [23:47] meh. Not bad. it's been a cold and rainy, abysmal day [23:47] oh, I don't those days at all. [23:48] charlie-tca: Remember that bug I issued regarding plymouth killing gdm until I logged in and restarted gdm? [23:48] have you heard anything about a new version of said package? [23:48] I think so [23:49] Ummm, I think there is. I was able to actually boot direct today on the iso tests. [23:49] Except the install from the live cd broke [23:50] To be honest, my own gdm ain't working yet with plymouth [23:50] yeah, thats what I figured [23:51] I think I'll keep it off the system until they get the bugs fixed in it [23:51] heh [23:51] Nice to see that my bug was confirmed and is now "critical" though [23:51] that might be a while, yet. We just got nouveau for nvidia in [23:52] I'm sorry, "high" [23:52] yeah, we keep trying [23:52] yeah, I'm not worried. A3 only drops tomorrow. :P [23:54] hrm [23:55] this is kinda funny, I think bug 522974 may be a dup to what I've got