[00:16] <wesley> having an issue where flash drops out on me, getting the message "flash app has crashed" lol more or less anyone every experience this often?
[00:25] <ichudov> join #android
[01:25] <karan> hi
[01:25] <karan> i need help
[01:26] <karan> i accidently deleted the plasma widget with my desktop icons
[01:26] <karan> how do i get it back
[01:27] <karan> any help
[01:27] <karan> mintlinux
[01:27] <karan> #mintlinux
[01:27] <brandon___> its crazy how low the ratio of people listening is to people here
[01:27] <karan> #linuxmint
[01:27] <karan> cn u help me
[01:28] <brandon___> Id help you but Imma n00b and need help myself buddy sorry
[01:28] <karan> i  accidently deleted my desktop widget
[01:28] <karan> n i cnt get it back
[01:28] <karan> im new to kde
[01:28] <karan> #kde
[01:28] <acidtoi> karan: there's no way back at least for now
[01:29] <karan> wat
[01:29] <karan> 0.0
[01:29] <karan> :(
[01:29] <acidtoi> and by the way, if you wanna change channels in irc you have to put /j before the channel name
[01:29] <karan> are u joking
[01:29] <FloodBotK3> karan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:29] <karan> seriously though
[01:29] <acidtoi> 4 example, /j kde and so on
[01:29] <karan> how do i get it back
[01:29] <acidtoi> 4 example, /j #kde and so on
[01:30] <acidtoi> karan: read what i wrote above: YOU CAN'T
[01:30] <karan> say wat
[01:30] <karan> wow...
[01:30] <acidtoi> forget it
[01:30] <karan> what do i do now
[01:30] <karan> :(
[01:31] <karan> plz
[01:31] <karan> someone help
[01:31] <brandon___> I cant get WoW to work with Cedega
[01:31] <brandon___> can anyone help me with that?
[01:31] <karan> how do i get back the plasma widget for desktop icons
[01:32] <karan> i accidently deleted it
[01:32] <brandon___> when Im installing and get to the second disc it wont read
[01:33] <SysWatcher> hello all
[01:33] <SysWatcher> whats on the agenda today
[01:33] <SysWatcher> ?
[01:34] <karan> i dont know
[01:34] <SysWatcher> well at least i know someone is listening!
[01:36] <Scunizi> karan: right mouse click an empty area of the desktop and "Add widget" look for "Folder View"
[01:36] <SysWatcher> ???
[01:44] <RPG-Master> How do you install themes in kubuntu?
[01:44] <karan> nothings there
[01:44] <SysWatcher> i only have 1 question...i would like a lot of answers!!!! Why KDE instead of Gnome???
[01:45] <RPG-Master> SysWatcher: You like messing with your computer and you prefer to have all the configuration be done with buttons instead of config files
[01:46] <RPG-Master> But really, how I do themes? :O
[01:46] <karan> kde is sexy gnome is tough
[01:46] <RPG-Master> :P
[01:46] <karan> lol
[01:47] <karan> so anyhelp
[01:48] <SysWatcher> hmmm
[01:49] <SysWatcher> i had given sabayon kde a try...i loved how it looked but could not get it to install properly!!!aarrgghhh
[02:03] <RPG-Master> How do you install themes in kubuntu?
[02:10] <wizkoder> RPG-Master: right klick on the desktop?
[02:11] <RPG-Master> wizkoder: That's only the plasma theme :(
[02:11] <RPG-Master> I want to change oxygen to this theme I downloaded
[02:12] <kubuntu> hello, can someone here help with a remote url error, what does it mean and how would I go about resolving it
[02:27] <kubuntu>  i'm installing a cms script on my ubuntu server and during install I get this error "test for remote URL failed"
[03:37] <nessuno> ciao
[04:35] <SysWatcher> ok...have ? need answered....i am used to running Gnome Ubuntu...recently trying to make the switch to KDE ubuntu...I need the ability to tell what network drives are mounted to my system! usually in gnome it pops up on my desktop as an icon that i can right click on an Unmount if i want to
[04:35] <SysWatcher> having trouble with this in kde
[04:35] <SysWatcher> any help?
[04:37] <SysWatcher> any at all?
[04:50] <explore> how can i remove my previous pastes from upload?
[04:50] <explore> is there anyway? please please help me out..
[05:07] <rockrush> Any one there?
[05:07] <james_l> Plenty of people
[05:08] <rockrush> But all of them stay silent.
[05:08] <rockrush> Quit.
[05:09] <james_l> Logically that doesn't make sense.
[05:21] <draik> Hello all. What happened with the HP Deskjet support? I can't use any of my printers.
[05:22] <draik> I cannot find the PPD files for them. I installed the latest HPLIP which says it supports, yet I don't have any PPD files for Deskjets
[05:51] <bfri> i need help getting my mic to work on a sony vaio any advise
[08:05] <hp> ciao
[08:39] <robwlo531> hi, what's the tool in Kubuntu behind the popup notifications? It's annoying me with stupid messages that I don't really want to read. So, I'd like to configure it somewhere. Is that possible?
[08:50] <robwlo531> OMG, I just found it thanks to http://digitizor.com/2009/11/08/how-to-enable-the-ayatana-notification-in-kubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[08:51] <robwlo531> may I suggest that the configuration of notifications and system try is moved to the "system settings"
[08:51] <robwlo531> that would be way more intuitive to find
[09:23] <vbgunz_> anybody know whats up with the double suspending?
[09:23] <vbgunz_> system automatically suspends after an hour, I wake it up, it auto suspends again in about 10 seconds
[09:24] <vbgunz_> from a clean 9.10 installation, I upgraded straight to KDE 4.4. not sure if 4.4 is doing this in some way
[09:55] <wilsby29> hello there.
[09:56] <wilsby29> I have enabled to ppa repository but I am not sure if I should enable proposed and/or unsupported updates aswell?
[09:56] <wilsby29> any idea?
[09:56] <xjjk> wilsby29: if you have to ask, no
[09:57] <xjjk> wilsby29: those contain packages that will be updates (but need more testing) and others that are unsupported
[09:57] <xjjk> short answer: things from those repositories may break
[09:58] <wilsby29> ok
[09:58] <wilsby29> should I not be using the ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-pa/ppa/ubuntu karmic main ?
[10:13] <bigbrovar> Hi guys, I just installed kde 4.4 on a fresh install of kubuntu 9.10.. I did the upgrade from cli and only logged into the desktop once it was done. Now am having some issues with nepomuk. Its too cpu intensive
[10:13] <bigbrovar> someone suggested I convert my db and some stuff but am totally lost on this
[10:14] <xjjk> bigbrovar: it's CPU intensive while indexing
[10:14] <xjjk> not much you can do about it...
[10:15] <xjjk> bigbrovar: were you using an RC of KDE 4.4?
[10:15] <kayoma> Всем привет
[10:15] <kayoma> Hi all
[10:15] <kayoma> Есть кто?
[10:19] <wilsby29> I had to disable a suse 3rd party indexing program (can't remember what it was called) because it was flowing my computer to a standstill
[10:20] <wilsby29> You can disable that sort of stuff under the service manager in system settings
[10:20] <wilsby29> the suse one is called the free space notifier
[10:20] <wilsby29> disable that
[10:28] <bigbrovar> xjjk: I left it to index for like 2 days now and its still indexing.. I am still unable to use the search feature yet.
[10:28] <in> salut
[10:28] <xjjk> bigbrovar: you should be able to use the search feature by now
[10:28] <xjjk> bigbrovar: I've been indexing for some 2 wks....
[10:28] <bigbrovar> xjjk: someone was telling me about how to convert the database to a nepumuk db
[10:28] <xjjk> I have a lot of source code lying around that it's apparently VERY slow on
[10:28] <xjjk> bigbrovar: what were you running before that you're converting
[10:29] <bigbrovar> xjjk: nothing.. I just use my system for everyday tasks :(
[10:29] <xjjk> bigbrovar: were you using KDE 4.3 with sesame or redland? and did you setup sesame or redland to create a database in the first place?
[10:29] <bigbrovar> xjjk: is the end result really what the pain? I am using fsrunner and catfish as a walkround
[10:30] <xjjk> or were you using a KDE 4.4 RC?
[10:30] <xjjk> bigbrovar: I honestly don't know
[10:30] <bigbrovar> xjjk: I upgraded from kde4.3 but I cant say which db it was using
[10:30] <xjjk> not heard of fsrunner/catfish...
[10:30] <xjjk> bigbrovar: KDE 4.3 you could use either sesame or redland
[10:30] <xjjk> and by default, they weren't even setup to work
[10:30] <bigbrovar> I am using KDE 4.4 upgraded from a fresh Kubuntu 9.10
[10:30] <xjjk> so you don't have a database to convert
[10:31] <xjjk> bigbrovar: I'd just let it take it's time... but to prevent it from being annoying
[10:31] <xjjk> there's a nepomuk icon in your system tray
[10:31] <xjjk> just suspend indexing whenever you're actively using your computer
[10:32] <xjjk> and say, overnight, turn indexing back on
[10:32] <bigbrovar> It seems I am using soprano-virtuoso.db ( I really dont know much about all this db things.. its so confusing)
[10:32] <xjjk> bigbrovar: yes that's what KDE 4.4 uses
[10:32] <BeteNoire> hi
[10:33] <BeteNoire> why after system restart all shared printeres in kubuntu become unshared?
[10:34] <bigbrovar> xjjk: ok so I dont need to convert anything?
[10:34] <xjjk> bigbrovar: it doesn't appear you have anything to convert
[10:34] <xjjk> from what you've said
[10:34] <xjjk> bigbrovar: again, I'd just suspend the indexing when you're actively using the computer
[10:37] <bigbrovar> xjjk: great Idea I think I would do that, probably run it over night as u suggested
[10:37] <xjjk> bigbrovar: depending on what you're indexing it may take several nights
[10:37] <bigbrovar> xjjk: can I disable it all together till I am ready to use it?
[10:37] <xjjk> I might actually think I've found some kind of bug/problem with the indexer... it shouldn't take this long
[10:37] <xjjk> bigbrovar: yes, easily
[10:38] <xjjk> in System Settings, go to Desktop  Search and disable Nepomuk
[10:38] <bigbrovar> xjjk: and nothing would break? cus it seems akonadi depends on nepomuk and many things depend on akonadi
[10:39] <xjjk> bigbrovar: I'm honestly not sure, but I've run it that way and KMail and my address book still appeared to work
[10:39] <xjjk> so that much at least
[10:40] <bigbrovar> ok FYI Kmail is a bigger pain. I just use thunderbird.. Kde still needs a lot of work.. but am addicted to it :)
[10:40] <xjjk> bigbrovar: AFAIK you can also enable Nepomuk but disable Strigi, which will just turn off the indexing
[10:40] <xjjk> KMail is *awesome*
[10:42] <bigjools> unless you're using IMAP
[10:42] <xjjk> I use IMAP
[10:42] <bigbrovar> xjjk: thanks will do just that..
[10:42] <xjjk> it could be better... but it works enough
[10:42] <bigjools> try suspending the machine with kmail connected via imap
[10:43] <xjjk> bigjools: yeah... been there done that
[10:43] <bigbrovar> xjjk: bigjools: I use imap too.. I mean I dont even know where to start.. It takes forever to pull in my mails
[10:43] <xjjk> bigjools: that's a bug that hopefully will be fixed when KMail is ported to Akonadi
[10:43] <bigjools> yes, it's loads slower than t'bird for imap
[10:43] <xjjk> but there's a workaround which works fine
[10:43] <bigjools> tell me more!
[10:43] <xjjk> in systemsettings there's some timeout you can adjust
[10:43] <bigbrovar> Its so slow.. I mean slow.. I really want to use it and stuff but I always find myself going back to thunderbird which seems to always just works :(
[10:44] <xjjk> let me find the bug
[10:44] <xjjk> bigbrovar: are you using disconnected IMAP or normal IMAP?
[10:44] <bigjools> bigbrovar: once it's filled the local cache, it's much quicker
[10:44] <bigjools> just the first connect is bad
[10:44] <bigjools> normal for me
[10:45] <bigbrovar> xjjk: what is the the diff btw disconnected and normal and which one causes less pain :P
[10:45] <xjjk> bigbrovar: use normal
[10:45] <xjjk> disconnected has phenomenally improved but in general it's still terrible
[10:46] <xjjk> bigbrovar: disconnected basically downloads everything locally... so you can access stuff offline
[10:46] <bigbrovar> xjjk: so with all this problems how is kmail **awesome** over thunderbird
[10:46] <bigbrovar> xjjk: oh ok
[10:46] <xjjk> Thunderbird has a similar feature, but it works much, much better than KMail
[10:46] <xjjk> KMail also unfortunately forces you to download everything (which is unusable for large IMAP servers), while Thunderbird lets you select individual folders
[10:46] <xjjk> eh, short answer: use normal for now
[10:47] <xjjk> hopefully the situation will improve in KDE 4.5
[10:47] <bigbrovar> xjjk: how do i set the timeout stuff so it loads quicker
[10:47] <xjjk> bigbrovar: it won't load stuff quicker, it will just mitigate the suspend problem
[10:47] <bigjools> which setting is that?
[10:47] <bigbrovar> ok
[10:47] <xjjk> looking...
[10:47] <bigjools> thanks
[10:48] <xjjk> I'm getting the bug report for the issue
[10:49] <xjjk> bigbrovar: bigjools: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77862#c48
[10:49] <xjjk> Open the
[10:49] <xjjk> Control center -> Network -> Connection options and set the "Server response"
[10:49] <xjjk> timeout from 600 to something like 20 seconds.
[10:49] <xjjk> I've set it to 10
[10:50] <bigbrovar> xjjk: thanks mate ... this is one of the most enlightened convo  I have ever had on irc :)
[10:50] <bigjools> sweet. thanks
[10:50] <xjjk> bigjools: bigjools: not that it'll get it fixed, please vote for that bug
[10:50] <xjjk> I'm under the impression the kdepim developers have given up trying to fix it in the current codebase
[10:51] <xjjk> it's too messy
[10:51] <bigjools> yeah maybe
[11:02] <bigjools> holy cow, that bug was reported 6 years ago
[11:03] <bigbrovar> bigjools: that is nothing compared to the kopete proxy bug..
[11:04] <bigbrovar> bigjools: kde has improved quite alot but there are some basic tools that needs fixing and It would be nice if more work is channelled towards fixing this issues soe of which are so foundamental
[11:04] <bigjools> it's understandable that it got ignored during the kde4 changes, but it needs looking at now
[11:08] <xjjk> bigjools: again.... when KMail moves to Akonadi...
[11:08] <bigjools> right
[11:08] <zubin71> hi i use nm-applet(gnome) for connecting to the wireless network as knetworkmanager doesnt work fine for me. i want nm-applet to be started on its own at boot time. how do i do that?
[11:08] <xjjk> zubin71: create a symlink in ~/.kde/Autostart
[11:09] <xjjk> it'll start the applet on login
[11:09] <zubin71> xjjk thankx! :)
[11:10] <zubin71> xjjk i usually launch nm-applet by using the ALT + F2 launcher. so i dont really knw where it resides...
[11:10] <xjjk> zubin71: in the terminal, run `which nm-applet`
[11:11] <zubin71> xjjk thankx again! :)
[11:21] <buckfast> Whats a good audio converting tool? Need to convert from flac to mp3
[11:30] <Oxymoron> How to I REMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE Akonadi so I can start Kmail?
[11:57] <Oxymoron> Could someone help me make Akonadi work again please? :) I have an important mail inside Kmail that I nedd NOW, thanks :)
[12:12] <jetdrone> i'm trying to burn the kubuntu alpha2 iso into a dvd-rw with k3b and i get an error from wodim, i read a lot about wodim cdrecord wars, but is there an alternative that works? before i installed kubuntu with the same rw disk but i burn it on windows, now... i've no windows and i can't burn the disc anymore...
[12:15] <konstantin_> HI
[12:21] <buckfast> Why isnt Dolphin copying my files properly
[12:22] <buckfast> Usually when I copy a bunch of files to my portable, not all of them make it there, and those that do get there have messed up id tags (mp3 files)
[12:33] <at2500> hi guys. i'm having these akonadi_contacts_resource PID: 3357 Signal: 6 (Aborted) - crashes on kde4.4 karmic-backports.
[12:34] <at2500> dmesg says type=1503 audit(1266926091.336:16): operation="open" pid=2127 parent=2125 profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi" requested_mask="::r" denied_mask="::r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0 name="/sys/devices/system/cpu/"
[12:34] <at2500> any hints?
[12:48] <jogjog> Kann mich jemand "hören"?
[12:49] <Tm_T> !de | jogjog
[12:58] <gblanda>  /join
[13:05] <jogjog> trying to understand this technique
[13:05] <Tm_T> !irc
[13:06] <Tm_T> jogjog: I hope the first link above helps
[13:07] <jogjog> will see. thanx.
[13:08] <fabio__> hi
[13:30] <bigbrovar> xjjk: hey I just setup kmail using your suggestions. Its less a pain now. but compared to thunderbird it still behind. I sent a test mail to myself from kmail. and each time I got the mail in thunderbird almost immediately it was sent. I had to manually check mail on kmail before I got that mail I sent.
[13:45] <tzanger> Hmm, kopete is set to flash the taskbar on incoming messages, but it's not happenning. I read that there was a bug (fixed in trunk) where it had to flush an additional "cache" in addition to the notification cache
[13:45] <tzanger> is there any way to do that manually?
[13:46] <tzanger> similarly kopete claims to have webcam support for MSN.  Kopete sees my webcam and it works (I can see myself in the config screen) but I don't see a way to use it with MSN
[14:23] <borden> hi, last time I installed lucid there were sound issues with vlc and flash , it still persists on current cdimages ?
[14:23] <shadeslayer> borden: well you need to ask that in #ubuntu+1
[14:24] <borden> ok thanks but it was a kubuntu problem not ubuntu's
[14:25] <Pici> borden: All Lucid discussion and support is in #ubuntu+1
[14:25] <borden> ok now thank you for the info
[14:55] <xjjk> bigbrovar: yeah... that's another bug, for IMAP IDLE support
[14:56] <bigbrovar> xjjk:  any link to the bug report?
[14:57] <xjjk> looking...
[14:57] <xjjk> there's no work around for it; it's another feature slated for KDE 4.5
[14:57] <xjjk> KMail simply doesn't support that feature
[14:58] <xjjk> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67504
[14:58] <xjjk> even older than the timeout one, haha
[15:00] <amdman> i can't save my resolution settings to Xconfig file !!
[15:00] <bigbrovar> btw I just got a mail from thunderbird some 5min ago.. kmail is yet to fetch the same mail.. even when I clicked fetch mail :(I
[15:02] <amdman> i use 1024x768_75 but every startup for kubuntu it set the res to 1024x768_60
[15:07] <jwc44> hi
[15:08] <jwc44> Realtek alc883 does not work as a float
[15:09] <jwc44> Amarok, kopete, smplayer can not play at the same time
[15:10] <_EagleScreen_> hello
[15:11] <_EagleScreen_> can Kuubntu 32bits boot in a laptop with 4GB of RAM?
[15:13] <jwc44> no
[15:13] <jwc44> desktop
[15:13] <shadeslayer> jwc44: press alt+F2
[15:14] <jwc44> yes
[15:16] <shadeslayer> jwc44: type : plasma-desktop
[15:16] <shadeslayer> jwc44: hit enter
[15:16] <jwc44> ok
[15:16] <shadeslayer> jwc44: this is a known problem and the kubuntu devs are working to fix it
[15:18] <jwc44> Where should I press alt + F2
[15:18] <shadeslayer> jwc44: after you login
[15:23] <jwc44> Amarok, smplayer Realtek alc883 at the same time will not work when you play an error pops up
[15:24] <jwc44> What can I do
[15:25] <shadeslayer> !audio | jwc44
[15:28] <Bauldrick> I have a slight problem with system and strange symbols i.e 'Temporary failure resolving âmirrors.kernel.orgâ' << note the â -- also compiled a toolchain and although a program compiled well, running it gives 'Unknown option ÿ' a) I added no option b) the ÿ
[15:28] <jwc44> thank you
[15:38] <zinox> kubuntu has not alsaconf so how i set up my sound card?
[15:43] <iamringo_> hey, so I upgraded to kde 4.4 and I've found that knetworkmanager has disappeared and I cannot connect to the internet. It's definitely running (ps -e says so), but isn't showing up, despite my having made it always visible in the widget/panel area. Any ideas what's going on?
[15:46] <abhifx> i have downloaded lucid daily and was trying to run wubi.... but it keeps on trying to download from the net. plz help me
[15:47] <Vroomfondle> !lucid
[15:47] <BluesKaj> abhifx, those are probly required updates
[15:48] <abhifx> bluemchen68, its taking a hell of a time... looks like a full download
[15:49] <iamringo_> so no one has an ideas re my problem?
[16:26] <hdevalence> so I installed 4.4, and then it gave me an Akonadi error message and it warned me about how nepomuk was no longer able to search my email. How do I fix this?
[16:30] <jonathan_> hello! I'm using kubuntu but I think it's the same for ubuntu: Do you know a nice tutorial about how to setup apache and mysql to run a website on the local server? I need PHP,MySql and PhpMyAdmin... I've read that using lampp is useless with the packages provided by the ubuntu team. thanks in advance! :)
[16:31] <Vroomfondle> !lamp
[16:35] <gregg> hi all - WEIRD problem here. I run ubuntu karmic as a media server where all my mp3's are, the locale is en_DK.UTF-8 - right now I'm on my Kubuntu karmic laptop, same locale as the server, but samba'ing to my mp3 folder shows question marks instead of utf-8 characters. Any idea what the problem could be?
[16:37] <Vroomfondle> gregg: checked "display charset" in /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[16:38] <Vroomfondle> (not entirely sure if that's actually used in this instance though)
[16:39] <gregg> Vroomfondle: nope i haven't done that yet, just though of it now
[16:40] <gregg> Vroomfondle: ummm, no "display charset" in smb.conf... :(
[16:41] <Vroomfondle> it might not matter... just a thought that came to mind.
[16:42] <gregg> sounds like a valid point... worth exploring in any case
[16:54] <naftilos76> hi i have kubuntu 9.10 with KDE 4.3.2. Can i safely upgrade to KDE 4.4?
[16:58] <naftilos76> anyone?
[16:58] <naftilos76> has anubody upgraded to 4.4?
[16:58] <binarylooks> if the nice fade out/fade in between kspalsh and plasma-desktop (or plasma-netbook) somehow doesn't work anymore, how do I reenable it?
[16:59] <benoitg_> naftilos76: worked fine for me.
[16:59] <binarylooks> naftilos76: for mee too
[17:00] <naftilos76> did you upgrade from 4.3.2 ?
[17:01] <hdevalence> worked OK for me, except I can't get nepomuk to index my email
[17:04] <sln> hello everybody !!!  :)
[17:06] <BeteNoire> when you drag the icon from kmenu to desktop - where its location is saved?
[17:06] <Gecko> so, nobody ever responded if Kubuntu is actually using pulseaudio for anything, or if it's safe to remove
[17:06] <sln> yes kubuntu use it!
[17:07] <Gecko> sln: okay, hmm, I have weird sound problems then.
[17:07] <jonathan_> hello!
[17:07] <sln> Gecko: so ! what is your problem exactly?
[17:07] <jimmy51_> hello, I'm trying to work with *.docx's from co-workers and am having trouble with them getting jumbled up between us.  do tables and formatting not work well between openoffice and ms office?
[17:08] <jonathan_> I've got a problem with mysql. I try to setup a homeserver and got apache2 working. Now I tried to get MySQL working. It seems line that the daemon is not starting, so no app can connect to the database (i get a connection error of them). I tried "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start" and it says "fail". Any ideas what i can do now? thanks in advance...
[17:09] <sln> Jimmy51: try to open .docx via   file > open  it should work
[17:09] <Gecko> sln: well, no sound. It worked before I restarted, but now it doesn't. Pulseaudio runs in the background and I can go Multimedia in System Settings and press Test and nothing happens
[17:09] <jonathan_> "/etc/init.d/mysql status" returns "* MySql is stopped"
[17:10] <TheKro> how do i set my printer to print black and white by default in kubuntu?
[17:11] <sln> Gecko: try to use another sound card! i'm afraid that your card is over
[17:12] <Gecko> sln: that's a rather fast conclusion. I don't believe you're right. Especially because I get pulseaudio errors in syslog
[17:12] <TheKro> (there are two printout mode options)
[17:14] <sln> Gecko: what OS do you use?
[17:15] <jimmy51_> sln: i'll try that
[17:19] <jimmy51_> bah.  still ugly.
[17:21] <jimmy51_> it looks like it's not using the proper fonts... even though i've copied calibri from my windows box
[17:24] <Mamarok> Gecko: why do you use Pulseaudio?
[17:24] <Mamarok> KDE doesn't need it
[17:25] <Gecko> Mamarok: Well, it's originally a ubuntu install. I removed pulse, restarted, but still no sound. I hear an occasional click
[17:26] <Mamarok> Gecko: did you install the phonon-backend xine and the libxine1-ffmpeg codecs?
[17:26] <wizkoder> pulseaudio sucks!
[17:26] <Mamarok> and how did you remove pulse? It's not unlikely that you still have quite a few elements around
[17:26] <wizkoder> have problems with sound since its used
[17:26] <Mamarok> wizkoder: behave, please
[17:27] <Gecko> Mamarok: I should believe that sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio would do the trick?
[17:27] <Mamarok> Gecko: try again with sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio-*
[17:28] <Mamarok> Gecko: then you also need to remove the $HOME/.kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc file and restart KDE
[17:28] <Gecko> Mamarok: you mean pulseaudio-\*
[17:28] <Mamarok> Gecko: no, exactly the line I gave you
[17:28] <Gecko> Mamarok: zsh interprets the *, so \* :)
[17:29] <Mamarok> Gecko: I use bash :)
[17:29] <Gecko> Mamarok: good for you :)
[17:29] <Gecko> but yeah, all pulseaudio related packages are removed now
[17:29] <Gecko> aplay -Dplughw:0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Rear_Center.wav  - aplay: main:608: audio open error: Device or resource busy
[17:30] <Mamarok> Gecko: did you see my other line?
[17:30] <Gecko> yeah, hang on
[17:30] <Gecko> yeah, I did install some libxine thingy
[17:31] <tzanger> does anyone here have msn webcam support working wiht kopete on 9.10?
[17:31] <tzanger> kopete claims to have this ability, it can see and use my webcam, but I can't figure out how to use it with MSN contacts
[17:32] <wizkoder> tzanger: maybe #kopete woulg better to ask
[17:33] <Gecko> Mamarok: the interesting thing is probably that alsa reports Device or Resource busy...
[17:33] <Mamarok> Gecko: you did restart KDE? Since phonon needs to restart to use alsa
[17:33] <Gecko> Mamarok: yes I did
[17:34] <Mamarok> hm, then maybe something is still around. Try removing any existing aconf or alsa.conf files in your home
[17:34] <tzanger> wizkoder: perhaps, I was just wondering if there was some magic in Kubuntu I was missing in order to make it work
[17:34] <Gecko> yeah, that was what I was about to do
[17:35] <Mamarok> Gecko: there also are Phonon cofiguration files elsewhere, second...
[17:36] <Gecko> Mamarok: there's just one thing I don't get. If I stop kde, stop my login manager and all that, I should be able to play test sounds with aplay, right?
[17:37] <Mamarok> Gecko: yes, but maybe there still is some phonon configuration trying to access it with a non existing pulseaudio
[17:37] <Mamarok> I am searching for it
[17:38] <guitar431> hello Today I was copying stuff from my kubuntu client to a windows client using dolphin network. Suddenly the connection stopped copying. The samba system completly lost connectivity. After a reboot the windows system cant be found by dolphin -> samba. The connections are still working. Ping signal is working. Any hints solving this problem would be appreciated
[17:38] <Gecko> Mamarok: well, I'm not...
[17:38] <Mamarok> Gecko: oh, sorry, misread: you mean from the command line without a running KDE?
[17:43] <Gecko> Mamarok: yes
[17:43] <Gecko> Mamarok: I just tried to revert to an earlier kernel to see if that would help. No luck there either
[17:43] <Mamarok> Gecko: that is strange, you do not use some alsa-backport kernel modules or so?
[17:43] <Gecko> Mamarok: not to my knowledge
[17:44] <Gecko> Are there also specific kernel modules?
[17:44] <Gecko> *alsa
[17:44] <Gecko> I've got plenty of snd_*_oss, but no alsa.
[17:45] <Mamarok> Gecko: there are backport modules available, yes, but it's a separate package
[17:45] <Gecko> right
[17:45] <Gecko> and those shouldn't be necessary
[17:45] <Mamarok> no, indeed
[17:45] <Mamarok> I just tried to find the source of your error
[17:46] <Mamarok> Gecko: and it tells you the device is busy from the start, before starting KDE when you boot?
[17:47] <Gecko> I'm not sure that error is significant. aplay without options doesn't give that to me
[17:48] <Gecko> I can't even cat .au files into /dev/dsp! I start to believe that sln was right... :(
[17:48] <Gecko> There's a distinct click everytime something tries to claim the audio device though
[17:48] <Mamarok> Gecko: and you already went through all the steps described here? -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[17:49] <Gecko> hold on, let me fire up X again
[17:49] <Mamarok> nothing muted in alsamixer?
[17:49] <Gecko> the microphones are, but besides that, no
[17:50] <Mamarok> that shouldn't disturb, but try all channels just to make sure
[17:51] <Mamarok> all channels on*
[17:51] <guitar431> after a reboot of the kubuntu client and the windows client the dolphin network found the windows network again but after copying some files he still loses connection to windows client. thats pretty weird need help :(
[17:54] <Gecko> Mamarok: just ran through that wiki article. Didn't get me any wiser
[17:54] <Gecko> I'm going to run a live cd to see if it's a general thing
[17:54] <Gecko> because it worked this morning
[17:54] <Mamarok> Gecko: good idea
[17:54] <Mamarok> Gecko: are you using a laptop?
[17:54] <Gecko> no
[17:55] <Mamarok> because on my old desktop PC I once had a connector that fell off...
[17:55] <Mamarok> just a tiny 2-pin cable
[17:55] <Gecko> right, well it's a built-in sound card, so I don't think there's any connectors that could cause that
[17:55] <Gecko> anyway, brb
[17:55] <Mamarok> right, fingers crossed
[17:56] <Kubuntu_> can anyone know a good c++ ide like visual studio for linux?
[17:56] <Mamarok> Kubuntu_: kdevelop?
[17:57] <Kubuntu_> how do i activate de auto-completion on kdevelop please?
[17:57] <Mamarok> Kubuntu_: no idea, I don't use it, but try the settings and plugins
[17:59] <Kubuntu_> i try all settings but nothing happen
[18:00] <Kubuntu_> Mamarok: what ide you use?
[18:01] <Gecko> Mamarok: I'm in 8.04 LTS live cd now, and sound works here... So it must be an alsa thing
[18:01] <Mamarok> Gecko: not unlikely, but you are aware that 8.04 is not LTS for KDE, do you?
[18:01] <Kubuntu_> can anyone know to combine kubuntu with debian lenny 5?
[18:01] <Mamarok> Gecko: which KDE version do you run?
[18:01] <Gecko> Mamarok: yeah, well, I'm in gnome.
[18:02] <Gecko> Mamarok: at least on the live cd. On the real install I use 4.4
[18:02] <Mamarok> Gecko: that already has the new Phonon, should work
[18:02] <Mamarok> Gecko: you should ask in #alsa I guess
[18:03] <Gecko> Mamarok: right, well, so should alsa in text mode without kde running, but it doesn't... I'll take my question to #alsa then
[18:03] <linux_girl> hello
[18:03] <Mamarok> Gecko: yes, something is fishy there, but at least you know your soundcard works
[18:04] <Mamarok> linux_girl: why not stick to a nick?
[18:05] <linux_girl> what?
[18:06] <linux_girl> i know that use linux as a OS is cool.  linux is so sexy !!!!
[18:06] <Mamarok> linux_girl: please stay on topic, this is a support channel
[18:07] <linux_girl> ok
[18:08] <linux_girl> Mamarok : do you know something about linux?
[18:08] <Mamarok> linux_girl: if you do not need support and only want to discuss please take it to #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:09] <linux_girl> no, i prefer here at the moment
[18:10] <Mamarok> linux_girl: then please stick to the topic, if you don not have a support question or give support keep quiet, please
[18:10] <linux_girl> Mamarok: for you, what is the best  gnome or kde?
[18:10] <Mamarok> linux_girl: again, this does not belong here!
[18:11] <jimmy51_> i have a docx file, authored in MS Word using Calibri as the font.  I've installed Calibry on my Kubuntu machine.  When I open the docx in openoffice (ku 9.10) it doesn't open with cailbri.
[18:11] <jimmy51_> is there a setting i can use to force it to use whatever font it should?
[18:15] <Mamarok> jimmy51_: did you try in the openoffice settings?
[18:15] <jimmy51_> i see an area for fonts.  it's set to "automatic".
[18:16] <jimmy51_> i see i could use a table to force replacing fonts with others
[18:16] <jimmy51_> but... i don't want to force verdana to always be calibri..... i just want calibri to open as calibri
[18:16] <Mamarok> yes, but does your font actually show up in the fonts list?
[18:18] <jimmy51_> it sure does
[18:18] <Gecko> Mamarok: after fooling around a little it started working. I really don't get it
[18:18] <Mamarok> Gecko: nice! at least you have sound again :)
[18:19] <Gecko> Mamarok: yeah, and about time. 40 minutes before a girl is coming over, and my place still looks like crap ;)
[18:19] <Mamarok> Gecko: go clean up then :)
[18:20] <Mamarok> jimmy51_: the problem is that MS doesn't even respect their own standard, so don't expect miracles from Openoffice
[18:20] <Mamarok> docx is very badly documented, and not all converters work at 100%
[18:21] <jimmy51_> is .doc better?
[18:23] <Mamarok> jimmy51_: not at all, sorry
[18:23] <jimmy51_> hmm... so there's probably not a way to interact well with my MS based co-workers when it comes to documentation?
[18:23] <Mamarok> jimmy51_: the best documented format is odf, so saving it in MS Word as odf would help
[18:24] <Mamarok> jimmy51_: yes, of course, openoffice runs on Windows, too :)
[18:24] <jimmy51_> i don't see ODF in MS Word's Save As box.
[18:25] <Mamarok> there should be, open document format
[18:25] <Mamarok> unless you have to install that extension
[18:25] <jimmy51_> must be an extension
[18:26] <jimmy51_> i'll search for it and try it.  thanks for the tips you've given
[18:26] <Mamarok> jimmy51_: odt for text, odf for spreadsheets
[18:26] <Mamarok> jimmy51_: you are welcome :)
[18:29] <jimmy51_> ah, looks like a free download from Sun.
[18:32] <Mamarok> jimmy51_: yes, it is Free Software, and there are also a lot of extensions available, on openoffice.org
[18:46] <rost> qlq est français ici
[18:47] <Pici> !fr | rost
[18:52] <beric> Hello Guys. I *Really* need help  in logging into my machine. KDM throws me out right after login
[18:53] <beric> I see this in kdm.log :(EE) XKB: No components provided for device Virtual core keyboard
[18:53] <beric> [config/dbus] couldn't register object path
[18:54] <beric> I assume it happened after an update. I saw other people went into this problem but can't get a decent solution.
[18:57] <roycemichaels> hello ppl
[18:58] <roycemichaels> how do you work this thing?
[19:01] <Mamarok> beric: a bit more information about your system might be useful: which Kubuntu, which KDE version?
[19:01] <beric> Mamarok: 9.10 64bit
[19:02] <Mamarok> and the KDE version?
[19:02] <beric> the default KDE version that comes with 9.10  .  It started only one day after installation.
[19:02] <Mamarok> oh, 4,3,2 then
[19:03] <beric> I don't know the default that comes with 9.10 didn't touch that.
[19:03] <Mamarok> beric: that is the default :)
[19:03] <Mamarok> beric: you should upgrade your KDE version, there have been many bugfixes since the release, as well as many fixes for Kubuntu 9.10
[19:04] <beric> did apt-get update/upgrade many times since that
[19:04] <Mamarok> well, if you don't have the backports activated you will not get any newer KDE packages
[19:05] <Mamarok> beric: are you familiar with editing the sources.list?
[19:05] <beric> in my sources.list ?
[19:05] <Mamarok> yes
[19:05] <beric> n/p I'll comment out the backports repo
[19:05] <Mamarok> beric: no, you need that repo for a newer KDE version
[19:06] <Mamarok> commenting it out will do exactly the contrary
[19:06] <beric> So I had them uncommented.
[19:06] <Mamarok> I think the line is not even in a default sources.list, it has to be added
[19:07] <beric> there ios karmic-backports  line ther
[19:07] <Mamarok> you should activate the kubuntu-backports and kubuntu-proposed, sinc there have also been some bugfixes applied to other system files
[19:08] <beric> ok so I should manually add them
[19:09] <did0nius> hi ,i need help,i delete my software sources ,and now can't update my kubuntu 9.10
[19:09] <Mamarok> beric: yes, or activate those if they are already in
[19:09] <Mamarok> did0nius: what is running currently on your computer, the default Kubuntu 9.10? And where are you based?
[19:10] <did0nius> yes ,the dfaut kubuntu but whit core 2.6 32.6
[19:11] <beric> Mamarok: where can I find the repo URLs ?
[19:11] <did0nius> i am from bulgaria
[19:11] <did0nius> east europe
[19:12] <Mamarok> beric: copy one of the lines, for example karmic-security and replace -security with -backports and -proposed
[19:12] <Mamarok> did0nius: I will generate a new one for you, just a moment
[19:13] <beric> 10x
[19:13] <Mamarok> beric: actually, while you are at it, add also -updates, -proposed is not really needed
[19:14] <did0nius> i erace all of them in /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:14] <did0nius> i did'n want it
[19:14] <Mamarok> did0nius: you should never erase anything in the system folders
[19:15] <Mamarok> the only folder you can do what you want is in your /home
[19:15] <kelopez> I can haz halp? xD
[19:15] <kelopez> OK
[19:16] <kelopez> the problem is: I upgraded to KDE 4.4 thru backports
[19:16] <did0nius> sorry ,i want to try add a new source ,but this is hapen
[19:16] <kelopez> and when a program shows a notification, it shows in a GTK window
[19:18] <kelopez> ok?
[19:18] <Mamarok> did0nius: if you want to add a new source, you can use the add/remove software in the System Settings
[19:19] <Mamarok> did0nius: http://pastebin.com/4BYbfqGv
[19:19] <did0nius> thanks Mamarok
[19:19] <kelopez> hmm
[19:19] <Mamarok> this is a new basic sources.list: you open the programm kate, copy this in and save it as sources.list
[19:20] <Mamarok> then you need to copy it to the right place: sudo cp sources.list /etc/apt/.
[19:20] <kelopez> (someone can help me? :S)
[19:20] <did0nius> ok
[19:21] <beric> Mamarok: I'm getting http 404 on update
[19:21] <kelopez> now
[19:21] <kelopez> I killed notify-osd
[19:21] <kelopez> and now the notif's are in a "very ugly window"
[19:21] <did0nius> Mamarok: it's work great !!!
[19:21] <did0nius> thanks man
[19:21] <Mamarok> beric: please copy your sources.list in paste.ubuntu.com and give me the URL
[19:21] <Mamarok> likely a syntax error
[19:22] <Mamarok> kelopez: you should ask your question all in one line, this is spread in too many lines
[19:22] <kelopez> Mamarok: ok
[19:23] <kelopez> Mamarok: the problem is/was that the notifications appear in a window (not stacked like KDE does)
[19:24] <Mamarok> kelopez: right click on the SysTray and go to the settings
[19:24] <Mamarok> there you can check the notifications you want to see
[19:25] <kelopez> that's not the problem :P
[19:25] <Mamarok> set the application notifications there, that should work
[19:25] <kelopez> the problem is that the notifications don't appear properly
[19:25] <kelopez> but don't worry, I "semi-fixed" that (killing notify-osd)
[19:26] <beric> http://paste.ubuntu.com/382452/
[19:26] <przemo_one> is pulse audio installed in kubuntu 9.10?
[19:27] <kelopez> nope
[19:27] <przemo_one> what about arts?
[19:27] <Mamarok> beric: that's apparently my error, did I say kubuntu-backports? that should read karmic-backports
[19:27] <kelopez> lemme try restarting (Microchoft way of fixing stuff xD)
[19:27] <Mamarok> przemo_one: arts is not used anymore since quite some time, if you only use KDE, don't install pulseaudio, alsa and Phonon does handle the sound
[19:27] <przemo_one> ive swithced from ubu to kubu and i want have egzact as clean kubuntu installation
[19:27] <beric> yes :) and karmic-backports were already uncommented.
[19:28] <przemo_one> Mamarok thanks
[19:28] <Mamarok> beric: so sorry
[19:29] <Mamarok> did you try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and see what it says?
[19:29] <beric> Ahh forget it. Anyway I'm still locked out.
[19:29] <beric> everything is up to date
[19:29] <Mamarok> beric: try moving your $HOME/.kde/, that might help
[19:29] <beric> I tried that already
[19:30] <beric> even tried to create a new user
[19:30] <beric> useradd -m bob
[19:30] <beric> same error.
[19:30] <Mamarok> hm, then I have to google to look for a solution
[19:30] <Mamarok> what was the exact error again?
[19:30] <beric> Oh believe me I googled for 3 days
[19:30] <beric> KDM throws me out right after login
[19:31] <Mamarok> and you get an error message there
[19:31] <beric> I'll put my kdm.log in the paste bin hold on
[19:31] <Mamarok> yes, please
[19:32] <beric> http://paste.ubuntu.com/382457/
[19:34] <Mamarok> beric: apparently it tries to load a non existing module, called "i810", I have no idea what it is trying to do there
[19:34] <Mamarok> what computer is that?
[19:35] <beric> standard core due PC
[19:35] <beric> ASUS MB
[19:36] <beric> I don't think that the i810 is the problem since the display shows the KDM screen
[19:36] <beric> X is running ...
[19:36] <Mamarok> hm, you didn't remove anything, xorg related?
[19:36] <beric> Nothing I recall. it happend 2 days after the installation.
[19:36] <ytoox> I installed kubuntu on the msi x600 laptop. But the webcam seems not to have been found at all. dmesg doesnt show anything and I tried different webcam programs but none are able to find the webcam. I need some help
[19:37] <beric> I did try to install skype
[19:37] <Mamarok> beric: because that log is extremly short, so it happens at the very start, I suspect some missing package
[19:38] <przemo_one> question about kbluetooth. it does not work for me :)
[19:40] <beric> Mamarok: This thread might also be related: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1323293
[19:41]  * ikacikac a
[19:41] <beric> the guys there ended up reinstalling 9.04 :(
[19:42] <Mamarok> beric: we will try to avoid that :)
[19:43] <kelopez> ok
[19:43] <przemo_one> beric what was the problem?
[19:43] <kelopez> Mamarok:  it looks like the Microchoft way of fixing stuff (rebooting) works
[19:43] <kelopez> now the notifications appear properly :)
[19:44] <Mamarok> kelopez: I bet just restarting KDE would have done the same, but you were gone before I could tell you
[19:44] <kelopez> ok
[19:44] <kelopez> but I preferred to reboot :)
[19:45] <beric> przemo_one: KDM throws me out after I enter my password: http://paste.ubuntu.com/382457/
[19:45] <Mamarok> kelopez: your choice :)
[19:45] <kelopez> :)
[19:45] <kelopez> well
[19:45] <beric> przemo_one: Kubuntu 9.10 . all up to date with backports repo.
[19:46] <kelopez> I have to say the truth: I installed KDE 4.4 in Ubuntu "GNOME edition" :P
[19:46] <ytoox> I installed kubuntu on the msi x600 laptop. But the webcam seems not to have been found at all. dmesg doesnt show anything and I tried different webcam programs but none are able to find the webcam. I need some help
[19:46] <przemo_one> beric this is xorg log file. could you provide me with kdm log?
[19:47] <beric> przemo_one: that's kdm.log
[19:47]  * kelopez couldn't wait till April 2010 xD
[19:47] <przemo_one> beric i'll look at mine. one moment
[19:48] <Mamarok> beric: could you please paste the content of ~/.xsession-errors ?
[19:49] <beric> sure
[19:50] <Mamarok> beric: you didn't install any new graphic drivers or such?
[19:51] <Mamarok> kelopez: no need to use Gnome for that, see the topic of the channel
[19:51] <kelopez> ok
[19:52] <przemo_one> beric man your xorg is not configured!!
[19:52] <beric> So how come I see KDM ?
[19:52] <przemo_one> beric do you have xorg working at all??
[19:52] <Mamarok> przemo_one: this is likely a dbus error
[19:52] <Mamarok> and his X is configured, else it would not start
[19:53] <beric> http://paste.ubuntu.com/382476/
[19:53] <przemo_one> Mamarok mine log says "Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" his: "Using default built-in configuration (39 lines)
[19:53] <przemo_one> "
[19:54] <Mamarok> przemo_one: see the paste above, X wouldn't even start if there was no nasic configuration
[19:54] <Mamarok> and Xorg doesn't need xorg.conf anymore since quite some time
[19:55] <Mamarok> basic*
[19:55] <przemo_one> stil mine solution is to run in recovery mode and initialize xord config tools
[19:56] <Mamarok> przemo_one: did you read the paste above? I doubt this would work
[19:57] <przemo_one> Mamarok I've lerned that sometimes thing work even if not suposed to.
[19:57] <przemo_one> sorry for my english btw :)
[19:57] <Mamarok> which is not really logical :)
[19:57] <przemo_one> *learned
[19:58] <beric> przemo_one: I agree with that. they sometime does not work when supposed to :)
[19:58] <Mamarok> beric: you are not in failsafe mode, aren't you?
[19:58] <beric> do you mean failsafe in grub ?
[19:58] <Mamarok> yes
[19:58] <przemo_one> beric do as i sed. it might. you have nothing to loose
[19:58] <beric> no. actually I'm doing all that remotely
[19:59] <Mamarok> przemo_one: wait
[19:59] <beric> my syster is watching the screen
[19:59] <datacrusher> hello everyone! iv just installed kubuntu 9.10, to make a kiosk
[19:59] <beric> i'm using ssh to start/stop kdm
[19:59] <Mamarok> beric: it looks as if you were in failsafe mode, since it evokes the x-terminal-emulator
[19:59] <datacrusher> but on the program manager theres no kiosktool
[19:59] <przemo_one> beric that might be a problem :)
[19:59] <Mamarok> a normal startup doesn't
[19:59] <datacrusher> on the site theres some files, wich one do i get to kubuntu? rpm? tar?
[20:00] <Mamarok> przemo_one: yep, I agree on that
[20:00] <beric> I tried to install XDM/GDM after KDM stopped working
[20:00] <datacrusher> and other question.. iv installed the firefox kiosk addon, but if the user uses alt+f4, or alt_tab he can go away from firefox
[20:00] <datacrusher> how do i lock the user to use such commands?
[20:00] <beric> anyway I've disabled them now and I'm back to KDM
[20:00] <datacrusher> or something automatic to relaunch firefox
[20:00] <przemo_one> datacrusher tar is most likely a source code. get deb prefered.
[20:01] <Mamarok> beric: and you can't start that machine locally?
[20:01] <datacrusher> przemo_one, i see. i use ubuntu normally, with gnome
[20:01] <datacrusher> not so familiar with kubuntu, but this tool theres no .deb package
[20:02] <datacrusher> gnome gives me the alien tool to install .rmp and .yum packages
[20:02] <beric> I'm not physically there. but my sys is on the phone I can reboot into failsafe if required
[20:02] <datacrusher> i dunno how to do that on kubuntu
[20:02] <przemo_one> datacrusher if you choose rpm you might have to install rpmi package.
[20:02] <Mamarok> beric: no, it already is in failesafe mode, that's likely why it doesn't start
[20:03] <przemo_one> datacrusher rpms and debs are software packages for linux. ubuntu is debian so deb by default.
[20:03] <datacrusher> this is the package i wanna http://extragear.kde.org/apps/kiosktool/
[20:03] <beric> cat /proc/cmdline can tell that ?
[20:03] <Mamarok> przemo_one: Ubuntu is a linux system, too
[20:03] <Mamarok> :)
[20:03] <przemo_one> beric reboot in to normal mode
[20:04] <przemo_one> Mamarok ubuntu is debian
[20:04] <apachelogger> Mamarok: I mean failsafe session on kdm
[20:04] <przemo_one> Mamarok I know that's linux man :)
[20:05] <beric> przemo_one: I'll reboot allthough I'm quite sure nobody touched the grub menu.
[20:05] <apachelogger> Mamarok: not failsafe in general, simply selecting KDE as session in KDM should solve the issue
[20:05] <apachelogger> (supposedly)
[20:05] <Mamarok> beric: and you do have enough disk space on that machine, do you?
[20:05] <datacrusher> przemo_one, or do you know a way to force firefox to keep open?
[20:05] <przemo_one> nope
[20:05] <datacrusher> if someone uses alt-f4 to close it
[20:05] <beric> yes doublechecked now.
[20:05] <Mamarok> apachelogger: thanks
[20:06] <Mamarok> beric: see what apachelogger just said
[20:06] <przemo_one> datacrusher disable alt+f4?
[20:06] <meero__> hi, im having problems with sound on kubuntu, how to debug this?
[20:06] <beric> OK lemme see KDM has this menu that I can select failsafe
[20:06] <datacrusher> yeah, so the user cant close firefox
[20:07] <datacrusher> if it does, it will open again
[20:07] <przemo_one> datacrusher but there is file exit function. it's not possible. mabye if there is no firefox another would open.
[20:07] <beric> Same thing when I select KDE
[20:08] <apachelogger> beric: what does the .xsession-errors look like
[20:08] <apachelogger> beric: does this also happen with a new user?
[20:09] <beric> oh now a bit different
[20:09] <datacrusher> przemo_one, im using firefox kiosk addon, wich makes firefox fullscreen by default
[20:09] <datacrusher> no options menu
[20:09] <datacrusher> it if keeps open, my job is done
[20:09] <przemo_one> beric do cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf for me please
[20:09] <beric> .xsession-erros here http://paste.ubuntu.com/382487/
[20:09] <Mamarok> przemo_one: let apachelogger handle that, he knows what he is doing
[20:10] <przemo_one> Mamarok fine :)
[20:10] <apachelogger> the xorg.conf can't hurt though :)
[20:10] <beric> przemo_one: I have no xorg.conf
[20:10] <beric> only xorg.conf.failsafe
[20:11] <beric> I'll try as another user now
[20:11] <przemo_one> datacrusher there should be a script that checks is there a firefox process loaded and if not load one. i'm not that smart so you have to search google or ask someone else.
[20:11] <meero__> hi, im having problems with sound on kubuntu, how to debug this???
[20:12] <przemo_one> meero__ what is your problem? maybe i can help with fixing that
[20:13] <datacrusher> przemo_one, thats exactly the thing i need
[20:13] <datacrusher> but thanks anyway, ill google it
[20:13] <przemo_one> beric if your user profile files are own for exaple by root - copied from /root then it might log out
[20:14] <przemo_one> datacrusher simple script. crond will run it from time to time.
[20:14] <beric> Hmm guys I think I have a clue
[20:14] <meero__> przemo_one: i have HDA intel sound card, when i start kubuntu, sound is playing, after that some error with hda intel, and kubuntu swithes to pulse audio, which is not working at all
[20:14] <beric> It's related to my language
[20:15] <Mamarok> beric: you mean the locales settings?
[20:15] <przemo_one> meero__ they told me that poulse is not present in kde kermic :)
[20:15] <beric> yes
[20:16] <meero__> przemo_one: i have it :-)
[20:16] <beric> I ran qu-language-selector and changed to english. then created another user and that user can log in normally
[20:16] <przemo_one> meero__ just removed thanks Mamarok
[20:16] <meero__> przemo_one: i should remove amarok?
[20:16] <Mamarok> przemo_one: I beg your pardon?
[20:16] <beric> but another new user I created before changing that locale cant log in with the same .xsession_errors
[20:16] <apachelogger> beric: are you logged in as the same user that tries to login via kdm?
[20:17] <Mamarok> meero__: don't!
[20:17] <meero__> Mamarok: what ??
[20:17] <Mamarok> meero__: you should't remove Amarok, you should remove pulseaudio, unless you are using Gnome
[20:17] <przemo_one> Mamarok meero__ says that he have pulseaudio in kubuntu, but you sed that there should not be.
[20:17] <beric> apachelogger: explain ? I'm logged via ssh as a normal user
[20:18] <Mamarok> przemo_one: well, then be more specific, he didn't understand what you said, and why did you highlight me?
[20:18] <przemo_one> *said
[20:18] <meero__> przemo_one: hmm, im using both gnome and kde, switching ..... testing, maybe thats a problem
[20:18] <apachelogger> beric: consolekit (a session management tool) could possibly block logins ... say if the same user is logged in via ssh ;)
[20:18] <apachelogger> beric: just a guess though
[20:18] <meero__> Mamarok: il try to remove amarok and pulseaudio
[20:18] <apachelogger> beric: and the .xsession-errors indicates that there is a permission issue, so that is my best guess right now
[20:18] <meero__> przemo_one: pulze audio is crap
[20:19] <Mamarok> meero__: then you can switch the systemsettings, don't remove pulseaudio, you need it for Gnome
[20:19] <przemo_one> meero__ all right pulse is not present in kde. it was mine problem. i was talking about guest of this channel not about amarok.
[20:19] <beric> I can eliminate that too. I'm logged in as user shiloh. tries to log in as user uri and get the same error
[20:19] <przemo_one> meero__ is everything ok on gnome??
[20:19] <Mamarok> meero__: did you read what I just said?
[20:19] <meero__> przemo_one: yes, gnome works fine
[20:19] <beric> apachelogger: however user bob which I crated after runing qt-language-selector can log in
[20:19] <kelopez> OK
[20:19] <Mamarok> przemo_one: could you stick to one topic maybe? You are confusing people
[20:19] <meero__> Mamarok: a kinda... :-)
[20:20] <kelopez> xD
[20:20] <przemo_one> Mamarok I'm multitasking :)
[20:20] <Mamarok> przemo_one: don't and stay on topic, please
[20:20] <apachelogger> ohhh
[20:21] <apachelogger> beric: please paste an ls -lah of bob's home, and run kdebugdialog as bob, select all and apply
[20:21] <Mamarok> meero__: if you want to use both KDE and Gnome, don't remove pulseaudio, you need to change the sound settings, and you can do this either in the SystemSettings in KDE -> Multimedia or in the Amarok settings menu -> playback -> sound configuration
[20:21] <apachelogger> beric: then try again a login as bob, .xsession-errors may contain more information then :)
[20:21] <apachelogger> beric: weird issue you got there :)
[20:22] <meero__> Mamarok: is there any particular reason to not remove pulseaudio?
[20:22] <Mamarok> apachelogger: apparently his problem is not new, it was reported by 9.04 users, too
[20:22] <beric> BTW I ran qt-language-selector using ssh x forward in case you were wondering.
[20:22] <Mamarok> meero__: well, yes, you need it in Gnome
[20:22] <meero__> Mamarok: whatfor?
[20:22] <apachelogger> beric: I figured :)
[20:22] <Mamarok> meero__: did you read what I told you? I just explained that
[20:22] <Mamarok> meero__: for sound, of course
[20:23] <przemo_one> meero__ pulseaudio is a part of gnome installation. i suggest to leave it.
[20:23] <apachelogger> Mamarok: there are even more reasons to kdm exhibiting such bounce back behaviour than for akonadi to claim unstartability ;)
[20:23] <Mamarok> przemo_one: either you do the support or I, both will not work
[20:23] <przemo_one> meero__ it's not problem with poulse.
[20:23] <beric> apachelogger: bobs ls -al :http://paste.ubuntu.com/382495/
[20:23] <przemo_one> Mamarok so if you talk i cant tolk to the same person??
[20:24] <meero__> przemo_one: i experienced similar problem with skype and pulse
[20:24] <przemo_one> *talk :)
[20:24] <Mamarok> przemo_one: this is a support channel, two people throwing in contradictory things will not work, and you are just repeating what I just said, no need for that
[20:24] <przemo_one> meero__ check that kde multimedia configuration
[20:24] <beric> apachelogger: locale on ls -al :http://paste.ubuntu.com/382496/   As you can see there's a difference between folder names
[20:24] <Mamarok> *sigh*
[20:24]  * Mamarok has better things to do
[20:24] <Mamarok> meero__: I leave you with przemo_one, good luck
[20:25] <meero__> Mamarok: thanks
[20:25] <apachelogger> beric: yeah, that is intent ... does login with bob work?
[20:26] <przemo_one> meero__ did you have this problem before, or did you just installed kde?
[20:26] <beric> apachelogger: yes. bob, the one with english locale works.  the second one does not. I'm still filling your previous orders
[20:26] <meero__> przemo_one: acctualy, when i started using kde i experienced this... before i didnt pay attention, as i was setting the system
[20:27] <apachelogger> beric: well, I find it unlikely that the folder names are at fault, but in general something locale related might be indeed responsible (maybe something is wrong witht the input method setup?)
[20:28] <przemo_one> meero__ I can tell you that lately I have some problems with my sound. small ones, but stil. its after latest kernel update.
[20:29] <meero__> przemo_one: .19?
[20:30] <przemo_one> meero__ mine is 2.6.31-20-generic
[20:30] <przemo_one> meero__ is 19 your version??
[20:30] <meero__> przemo_one: yep. ubuntu doesnt provide me this kernel yet, are u using beta?
[20:31] <przemo_one> meero__ no :) i have all backports etc selected
[20:31] <meero__> przemo_one: oh... ok :-)
[20:31] <meero__> przemo_one:  i try to logout .....
[20:32] <przemo_one> meero_before that i had 18 :)
[20:34] <beric> apachelogger: See http://paste.ubuntu.com/382507/  after selecting all in kdedebugdialog
[20:34] <meero__> przemo_one: great, now sound is perfect :-)
[20:34] <meero__> przemo_one: thanks
[20:34] <przemo_one> meero__ and what i did?
[20:34] <meero__> przemo_one: u? i dont know :-)
[20:35] <meero__> przemo_one: i just uinstalled amarok
[20:35] <przemo_one> meero__ did you reboot and use different kernel?
[20:35] <przemo_one> meero__ lol lol lol
[20:35] <meero__> przemo_one: no, still hanging to .19
[20:35] <meero__> przemo_one: what :)?
[20:36] <przemo_one> meero__ i'm laughing :)
[20:36] <meero__> przemo_one: i know but why?
[20:37] <przemo_one> meero__ amarok never mind. maybe it was in try and your sound card was occupied :) somehow  :) ?
[20:38] <przemo_one> meero__ uninstalling is not the best sollution, next time just exit :) glad everything works fine for you.
[20:38] <meero__> przemo_one: i have absolutely no idea.... seems to me ubuntu is crazy like windows sometimes...
[20:38] <Gnosiz> Hey.
[20:39] <przemo_one> meero__ when i open dragon player sound is broken during playing video on youtube with firefox. mplayer works fine every time.
[20:39] <meero__> przemo_one: personaly i use vlc for almost everything, do u use amarok?
[20:40] <beric> apachelogger: Mamarok  Take a look at this kdm.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/382513/
[20:40] <apachelogger> oh
[20:40] <przemo_one> meero__ my point was sound from dragon is broken during another play with firefox. when i had pulse there was no sound in dragon during firefox session :) crazy. no i use command mplayer mainly.
[20:40] <apachelogger> now that contains a crash
[20:40] <beric> yes I can see.
[20:41] <apachelogger> a not very useful one
[20:41] <apachelogger> beric: what is the history of the system? did some recent upgrade break login?
[20:41] <Mamarok> przemo_one, meero__: discussions should go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[20:41] <beric> apachelogger: I installed it a week ago. 2 days later (after doing some updates) problem appeared.
[20:42] <apachelogger> curious
[20:42] <beric> I also installed skype
[20:42] <apachelogger> beric: please paste /var/log/apt/term.log and /var/log/dpkg.log
[20:42] <beric> x11vnc firefox vlc
[20:42] <meero__> Mamarok: ok, guys, thanks for help, have to go....
[20:45] <przemo_one> gotta go 2. have fun kids :)
[20:45] <beric> bye thats for trying to help here 2
[20:54] <beric> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/382518/. no term.log here
[20:55] <beric> I don't know how there are files from 2009  maybe the clock was not set correctly
[20:55] <Crell> Hi all.  I am having difficulty connecting to a Wireless AP using Kubuntu 9.10.  I know the wireless itself works, because I've connected to other APs before, and others can connect to this AP, but I cannot.  It's using WPA-Personal, and I have confirmed that my password is correct, yet when I try to connect it behaves as if the password is wrong.
[20:55] <apachelogger> beric: you have backports activated?
[20:55] <Crell> syslog reports "access point has security, but secrets are required."
[20:56] <Crell> So it is almost like it is ignoring my password.
[20:56] <Crell> Any tips on what to try next?
[20:56] <beric> apachelogger: Yes
[20:56] <apachelogger> beric: that makes it all a lot more complicate
[20:56] <apachelogger> beric: if you set the locale back to what it was before, can bob still login?
[20:57] <beric> I was told to activate them to get bugfix
[20:57] <beric> I'll try. bob is the english locale, you want me to move it to my "broken" locale.
[20:58] <apachelogger> beric: out of interest, how would you do that?
[20:58] <apachelogger> beric: backports do not contain bugfixes, karmic-updates is for that :)
[20:58] <beric> sudo qt-language-selector
[20:59] <apachelogger> ok
[20:59] <apachelogger> beric: please set to broken locale
[21:00] <beric> bob is not in sudoers file
[21:00] <beric> hmm i'll try with another user
[21:00] <beric> I guess it's system wide
[21:00] <beric> I added bob using useradd -m bob
[21:03] <apachelogger> beric: yes, its a systemwide setting
[21:04] <Crell> Anyone know about WiFi authentication issues in 9.10?
[21:04] <beric> hmm I'm getting a dialog telling me language support is not installed completely
[21:05] <apachelogger> beric: say remind later
[21:05] <beric> ok
[21:05] <apachelogger> beric: also, do you happen to have an input method selected in language-selectore?
[21:06] <beric> it says none
[21:06] <beric> nothing else to select
[21:06] <Mamarok> Crell: if you can't use a hidden network, you should install wicd
[21:06] <apachelogger> beric: fair enough, pleaes change to your locale and check if bob can continue to login
[21:07] <Crell> Mamarok: wicd?
[21:07] <Mamarok> the package name is wicd
[21:07] <Crell> The ESSID is discoverable, it's just authentication that seems to be dying on this one network.
[21:09] <beric> apachelogger: not bob can not log in
[21:10] <beric> s/not bob /now bob
[21:11] <beric> xsession-erros : http://paste.ubuntu.com/382532/
[21:12] <apachelogger> this is not even funny -.-
[21:12] <apachelogger> beric: if you change the locale back to en_us, can bob login again?
[21:12] <apachelogger> if he cannot, then we at least know that some config inside $HOME is screwing with the setup
[21:12] <beric> lemme check.
[21:13] <beric> btw I wonder if that crash in kdm.log matters
[21:14] <apachelogger> beric: probably not
[21:15] <beric> yep bob can log in again
[21:15] <beric> mama always told us to learn english
[21:16] <Crell> Mamarok: What is wicd, exactly?
[21:17] <apachelogger> beric: apparently she was right all along ^^
[21:19] <Mamarok> !info wicd
[21:19] <Mamarok> Crell: see above
[21:19] <Crell> Hm.
[21:19] <Crell> So it's a replacement for network-manager?
[21:19] <Crell> er, knetworkmanager?
[21:19] <apachelogger> beric: now we are going for the fun part, change back to hebrew again
[21:20] <apachelogger> beric: then sudo mv /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80im-switch /etc/X11/
[21:20] <beric> and ?
[21:20] <apachelogger> and then try login again
[21:20] <apachelogger> beric: also an ls -al of /etc/X11/Xsession.d would be useful
[21:20] <beric> apachelogger: should i do also service kdm restart after switching ?
[21:21] <apachelogger> beric: yep
[21:21] <beric> I didn't do it previously
[21:21] <Mamarok> Crell: yes, it will replace network-manager
[21:21] <apachelogger> beric: that supports my theory that im-switch is the bad guy ;)
[21:21] <Crell> Does it manage VPNs, too?
[21:25] <beric> apachelogger:  no go , bob can't login.
[21:25] <apachelogger> meh -.-
[21:25] <beric> hmm
[21:25] <beric> .xsession-errors looks different now hold on
[21:26] <apachelogger> beric: also ls -alR /etc/X11 please
[21:26] <apachelogger> note the R
[21:26] <beric> its empty
[21:26] <beric> the .xsession-erros
[21:26] <apachelogger> Oo
[21:27] <beric> the ls : http://paste.ubuntu.com/382543/
[21:27] <apachelogger> beric: with R please :D
[21:27] <Mamarok> Crell: I don't know, never used it
[21:27] <Crell> Oh good. :-)
[21:28] <Crell> Hm.  And now something is wrong with my wired connection, too.  WTF?
[21:28] <Crell> No, wait, it found it.
[21:28] <Crell> Somehow.
[21:28] <Crell> WTF?
[21:28] <Mamarok> don't shout, please
[21:28] <beric> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/382545/
[21:29] <beric> sorry about the R :)
[21:29]  * Crell says wtf more quietly. :-)
[21:31] <Mamarok> Crell: or dont say it in the channel :)
[21:32] <kelopez> net split?
[21:32] <kelopez> :O
[21:32] <apachelogger> hm
[21:32] <Crell> Looks like.
[21:33] <kelopez> lol
[21:33] <beric> apachelogger: did you see my private msg about ssh ?
[21:34] <apachelogger> oh
[21:34] <apachelogger> beric: I suppose that could help ;)
[21:48] <cidu_work> okiez, Karmic 64 bit , dual screen 1 1280x1024 and to the right is a 1650x1080 screen, using the "ati" driver, comes up as r300 project (rv380)... , kde 4.4, umm, heres the problem, on the right most 5th or so or the rightmost screen , theres like an invisible line, where transparent windows, or window decorations controled by kde simply do not show up (the application area of the window does) but things with their own decorations like chrom
[21:48] <cidu_work> e show up as long as there is no transparency,  dunno whatelse might be helpfull...
[21:49] <cidu_work> the actual card is an ATI FireGl V3100
[21:49] <cidu_work> ohh, middle of a netsplit
[21:49] <cidu_work> fun
[21:50] <kaddi> hi, how do i get amarok to play my entire playlist and not just the first song of it?
[21:51] <cidu_work> kaddi, theres a little button that controls how it deals with the playlist, you have it set to single, umm, dont have it handy here so cant tell ya excatally where
[21:51] <cidu_work> its options are like dingle, loop, shuffel
[21:51] <cidu_work> dingle=single
[21:51] <kaddi> it does not repeat the song it just stops
[21:52] <cidu_work> es, ya got it set to single
[21:52] <kaddi> where is that button roughly?
[21:52] <cidu_work> ohh, and sorry if im repeating this to many of you, but there was a flood of joins after i posted my question, sooo.
[21:52] <cidu_work> okiez, Karmic 64 bit , dual screen 1 1280x1024 and to the right is a 1650x1080 screen, using the "ati" driver, comes up as r300 project (rv380)... , kde 4.4, umm, heres the problem, on the right most 5th or so or the rightmost screen , theres like an invisible line, where transparent windows, or window decorations controled by kde simply do not show up (the application area of the window does) but things with their own decorations like chrom
[21:52] <cidu_work> e show up as long as there is no transparency,  dunno whatelse might be helpfull...ohh, card is a fireGL v3100
[21:56] <Mamarok> kaddi: make sure you use the xine backend, and the playlist modes are at the bottom right of the playlist in Amaork 2.2.2, in the menu bar in previous versions
[21:56] <kaddi> hi, thanks Mamarok
[21:56] <kaddi> how do I check if i use the xine backend?
[21:58] <kaddi> Mamarok: I have amarok 2.2.2 and at the bottom right of the playlist i selected "repeat playlist" instead of "standard". But it still stops. It plays one song, then it displays the name of the following song, but never plays it.
[21:58] <Mamarok> kaddi: in the settings menu -> configure Amarok -> Playback, there is a configuration button
[21:59] <Mamarok> kaddi: check your backend first
[22:01] <ubuntu___> i install windows and lost grub. i had kubuntu 9.10. what can i do now?
[22:02] <tsimpson> !grub
[22:02] <tsimpson> see the first link there
[22:02] <cidu_work> hrmm, theres probally a more ubuntu way of doing it, but supergrub should handle it....yeah, follow that one instead
[22:03] <kaddi> I realise that this is probably sounding stupid, but how do i check my backend? I went to playback and all i can do there is uncheck fadeout on stop, resume on start and enable or disable the equalizer. I went into the sound system configuration and I only have pulse and hda intel set up there, Mamarok
[22:04] <Mamarok> kaddi:  there is a button, roughly in the middle that says Configure Phonon, in the section "Sound Sxystem Configuration"
[22:05] <Mamarok> click on that, go th the tab "Backends"
[22:05] <ubuntu___> do i have grub  or grub 2?
[22:05] <kaddi> Mamarok: oh lol, thanks. I knew it was something stupid. Didn't see the "backend" tab in the sound configuration window. It says Phonon Xine Backend there.
[22:06] <kaddi> Xine is the only thing installed as well
[22:06] <ubuntu___> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[22:06] <ubuntu___> Error 15: File not found
[22:07] <Mamarok> kaddi: do you only use KDE? Then you shouldn't use pulseaudio
[22:07] <cidu_work> why shouldnt you use pulse in kde?
[22:08] <cidu_work> honestly curious here
[22:08] <kaddi> Mamarok: yes i do, iirc i installed pulse to get sound in skype to work, it was all broken before installing the sound stuff... (but I got that googling for a solution, so there may be a better way? )
[22:08] <ubuntu___> how to restore grub2 after installing windows??
[22:08] <kaddi> well, i only use kde as displaymanager, i use non-kde apps such as skype, opera and so on.. not sure if those count?
[22:09] <Mamarok> kaddi: use the static version of skype, then you don't need pulseaudio AFAIK
[22:10] <kaddi> and removing pulse will fix the problem with Amarok, Mamarok?
[22:10] <Mamarok> kaddi: not unlikely, since pulseaudio - phonon-backend-xine don't work well together
[22:11] <kaddi> Mamarok: do you know what is the cleanest way to uninstall pulse?
[22:11] <cidu_work> so, nobody seen the weird area of disappearing window decorations on a slab of screen?
[22:12] <Crell> cidu_work: No, but I've seen parts of one window bleed through another when it gains focus.  A lot.
[22:15] <kaddi> !pulse
[22:16] <Mamarok> kaddi: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio-*
[22:16] <Mamarok> kaddi: then also remove $HOME/.kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc and restart KDE
[22:31] <nessuno> salve
[22:32] <pasquale> !list
[22:33] <ubuntu_> iam tring to restore grub of kubuntu 9.10 after installing windows. but getting error 15. what can i do?
[22:38] <ubuntu_> iam tring to restore grub of kubuntu 9.10 after installing windows. but getting error 15. what can i do?
[22:41] <r2b2> #join gkonii
[22:47] <kaddi> Mamarok: that command screwed up on a major basis... i think it interfered with some updates i had waiting... i noticed to late that it was uninstalling things like kubuntu-desktop, plasma-desktop and a couple more things
[22:47] <kaddi> Is there a way to undo what it did?
[22:49] <kaddi> actually it removed kdebase-workspace
[22:51] <detrate> does kwin have a global hotkey section?  I'd like to be able to access my media controls while in 'desktop grid' or 'present all windows' modes
[22:53] <Mamarok> kaddi: add it back, then
[22:54] <Mamarok> just don't logg out or something like that
[22:54] <Mamarok> kaddi: install kubuntu-desktop and kde-full
[22:55] <kaddi> ok, that'll kill my internet connection, for a wile, since it'll reinstal knetworkmanager. Gonna take me a while, bbl
[22:56] <Mamarok> kaddi: why would that kill your internet connection? And what command did you do that removed all that?
[22:57] <kaddi> i use wicd, knetworkmanager has always been flakey for me and it won't connect to one of the wpa2-networks i frequently visit. kubuntu-desktop will force the reinstall of knetworkmanager and uninstall wicd, leaving me without internet access
[22:58] <kaddi> and the only command i enter was the one you gave me. But, as I said, there were a lot of updates trying to install themselves at the same time and when I checked back it had already removed kubuntu-desktop and dragonplayer, kaffeine and so on. I stopped it, but it was too late
[22:59] <amdman_> hi
[22:59] <amdman_> i have a problem with the label of a fat32 partition
[23:01] <amdman_> any help ??
[23:01] <kaddi> !ask
[23:01] <manshoon> If I have mounted an encrypted filesystem from kde4 a few times, does the luks password set saved anywhere?  maybe a temp file?  Im trying to recover a password for my external which was just mounted yesterday
[23:02] <kaddi> manshoon: maybe check the kdewallet, it may be stored there?
[23:02] <manshoon> I just encrypted it and stored the password into my phone which was stolen earlier today
[23:03] <manshoon> did not see anything in kdewallet.  kubuntu never even asked to store it
[23:03] <amdman_> the partition's label became strange and i want to set it back to default like the other partitions
[23:03] <amdman_> http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8123/snapshot1e.png
[23:04] <manshoon> I have heard of cold boot attacks on encrypted passwords, what about passwords stored on disk for an encrypted external HD recently accessed?
[23:14] <detrate> I've entered a mode where I can drag my desktops around with the hand shaped cursor.  How can I toggle this off?
[23:17] <detrate> ahh, I think I've found it
[23:18] <ken404_> Hello all
[23:21] <kaddi> Mamarok: not sure if you saw:  i use wicd, knetworkmanager has always been flakey for me and it won't connect to one of the wpa2-networks i frequently visit. kubuntu-desktop will force the reinstall of knetworkmanager and uninstall wicd, leaving me without internet access and the only command i enter was the one you gave me. But, as I said, there were a lot of updates trying to install themselves at the same time and when I checked back it had already
[23:21] <kaddi> removed kubuntu-desktop and dragonplayer, kaffeine and so on. I stopped it, but it was too late. The install of kubuntu-desktop went ok, but kde-full install stopped with this error:  Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:
[23:21] <kaddi>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdesdk-kio-plugins_4%3a4.4.0-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1_i386.deb
[23:21] <kaddi> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[23:21] <FloodBotK1> kaddi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:23] <kaddi> Mamarok: should i try sudo apt-get -f  install kde-full?
[23:23] <palindrome_dude> good morning
[23:24] <detrate> how can I move an application between workspaces with hotkeys?
[23:24] <Mamarok> kaddi: try sudo apt-get install -f
[23:24] <kaddi> Mamarok: that gives the same error
[23:24] <palindrome_dude> exit
[23:25] <kaddi> Mamarok: full output: http://pastebin.com/3ceuzfKX
[23:29] <fjellrev1> Quickie : Where is kubuntu on compiz/emerald/beryl ? I know of the built in function and want to stick to it out of the "Keep it simple stupid" principle ,but I really want that window decoration that came with emerald.
[23:30] <Mamarok> kaddi: what do you need kdesv-kd4 for? That is old!
[23:30] <kaddi> Mamarok: that was isntalled with kde-full i never wanted it
[23:30] <Mamarok> try sudo apt-get remove kdesvn-kde4
[23:32] <kaddi> Mamarok: I don't think I'm gettin through to apt-get any longer... That's the output: http://pastebin.com/RjPXu1XZ
[23:32] <kaddi> it didN't remove the package I think
[23:33] <Mamarok> kaddi: hm, let's forget about those for the moment, you need neither of them to have a running KDE
[23:33] <Mamarok> try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:35] <kaddi> Mamarok: it's installing remote control now o.o what is lirc and what do I choose for configuration? "none"?
[23:35] <Mamarok> kaddi: if you don't need it set it to none
[23:36] <kaddi> Mamarok: dpkg --configure worked, it only says:
[23:36] <kaddi> Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:
[23:36] <kaddi>  kdesdk
[23:36] <Mamarok> yes, that was expected
[23:36] <Mamarok> try sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade again
[23:37] <Mamarok> you should get the same error on that kdesdk stuff
[23:37] <kaddi> Mamarok: i do
[23:37] <pookito> good evening.  :D
[23:37] <kaddi> Mamarok:   kdesdk: Hängt ab: kdesdk-kio-plugins (>= 4:4.4.0-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1) ist aber nicht installiert oder
[23:37] <pookito> I have a question about ecryptfs-mount-private
[23:38] <pookito> can anybody help me?
[23:38] <Mamarok> kaddi: well, do you need a development envirnonnement?
[23:39] <Mamarok> kaddi: I really need sleep now, you should check with somebody else, I can hardly concentrate
[23:39] <Mamarok> else I will gladly help you out tomorrow
[23:39] <kaddi> Mamarok: no. I have dbg symbols installed for bug reports, but i guess that doesn't interfere... as I said, you said to install kde-full and that's what i tried to do
[23:39] <Mamarok> yes, I will try to sort this out tomorrow, there is a packaging problem
[23:39] <kaddi> Mamarok: you seem to be the only one around, so I guess I'll need to put this of to tomorrow
[23:40] <Mamarok> but it should not interfere with your KDE working correctly
[23:40] <kaddi> Mamarok: let's hope thats true :)
[23:40] <kaddi> thanks for your support so far :)
[23:40] <Mamarok> OK, ce tomorrow, else you can also try in #kubuntu-de
[23:40] <Mamarok> cu*
[23:40] <kaddi> will do :)
[23:40] <kaddi> cu:)
[23:40] <Mamarok> good night :)
[23:40] <pookito> good night dude
[23:40] <pookito> :D
[23:40] <kaddi> sleep well :) I'm off to bed too ;)
[23:41] <kaddi> same time zone :D
[23:41] <pookito> can anybody give me a hand?
[23:41] <pookito> on a mounting problem?
[23:41] <kaddi> !ask
[23:41] <Bugsbane> Can anyone here install libboost1.38-dev on Lucid?
[23:41] <kaddi> Bugsbane: i believe lucid support is on #ubuntu+1
[23:41] <Bugsbane> I have it installed on one machine and it's in the repos but on a new machine it says no installation candidate...
[23:42] <Bugsbane> ok, I'll try there
[23:42] <Bugsbane> Thx!
[23:42] <kaddi> yw
[23:42] <kaddi> gn8 everyone, gn8 Mamarok
[23:43] <taga101> how do i remove google chrome??? can anyone help?
[23:43] <pookito> For some reason my kubuntu wireless stop working, so I decided to make a new install.  my home partition has my home folder.  When I installed my new system, I can not have access to my old acc.  how can I make it accesable
[23:43] <pookito> ?
[23:48] <pookito> dudes, can anybody give me a hand?
[23:48] <pookito> Taga, you are still here?