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BUGabundogonna hit the bed00:01
NitsugaSince last update Ubutnu is always trying to use KMS. So I can't use the nvidia module. KMS is fine, i can switch consoles without flashing and use a high-res tty, and so on, but I want OpenGL acceleration! How to diable it?00:01
BUGabundohopping tomorrow trashsh this GTK bug:(00:01
penguin42BUGabundo: Which one?00:02
RAOFNitsuga: Simply enabling the nvidia driver using Hardware Drivers doesn't disable novueau (the driver that supports KMS)?00:03
NitsugaRAOF, what??00:03
Nitsugai am was using the nvidia-current package because that "alternatives" thnig isn't working for me00:04
RAOFNitsuga: If you enable the nvidia driver via System->Administration->Hardware Drivers, it should automatically blacklist nouveau, and prevent it from interfering with the nvidia binary blob.00:04
Nitsugalet's see if now it's working..00:04
NitsugaRAOF, I think I have a problem00:10
NitsugaRAOF, jockey is only showing me "nVidia Riva/TNT/GeForce" and it's "activated"00:10
BUGabundothat's nouveua00:11
Nitsugait "deactivates" instantly and after a reboot it is still there00:11
ZykoticK9Nvidia Drivers what's the story - Hardware Drivers have 2 green dots beside "Nvidia accelerated graphics driver ... Recommended" & "nVidia Riva/TNT/GeFore" - but when highlighted both report "This driver is activated but not currently in use".  lspci -vnvn, show "kernel driver in use: nvidia".  My 3D/graphics are working fine - but why is Jockey reporting not in use?00:11
TakyojiI have a persisting issue that I noticed in yesterday's daily build and also today's00:23
penguin42what's that?00:23
Takyojiwith the partition part of installing 10.0400:23
penguin42ah I haven't tried reinstalling - what do you see out of interest?00:24
TakyojiI choose how I want the partitions setup, click Forward, and then get an error of "The username you entered is invalid. Note that usernames must start with a lower-case (...)"00:24
TakyojiThough I haven't even gotten to the screen of entering a username or anything00:25
ZykoticK9Takyoji, someone yesterday was having that same issue00:25
Some_PersonCan someone please link me to a screenshot of lucid's default theme?00:25
TakyojiSure it wasn't myself, or?00:25
ZykoticK9Some_Person, currently it looks the same as karmic00:25
ZykoticK9Some_Person, well "almost" the same anyways00:25
Some_PersonI heard that it won't be Human though00:26
ZykoticK9Some_Person, i've heard that too - haven't seen it yet though00:26
Takyojiotherwise shall I report this issue?00:27
Takyojiif so, with what information?00:27
ZykoticK9Takyoji, it might have been you -- if you where in the channel talking about this yesterday as well.00:27
penguin42Takyoji: If it's an installer issue I think you report it against the ubiquity package00:27
Takyojialright00:27
Takyojibut anyway, what information would be necessary for me to tag on, and how would I be able to retrieve some?00:29
Takyoji(such as, wouldn't I be able to get a memory dump or something?)00:29
penguin42if you just give the error message you got, everything you did, what language you are using etc that should be OK00:31
penguin42please give the exact error00:32
Nitsugammm now I can install nvidia-current, but I am still lacking OpenGL support00:32
TakyojiYea, I shall. I think I may even provide a screenshot (since apparently I've noticed I can)00:33
penguin42yes that would be good00:33
charlie-tcaNitsuga: shouldn't be lacking. You will get the message that it is not active, but everything should be working00:36
charlie-tca.00:36
Nitsugacharlie-tca, when I install the nvidia-current package I loos all types of OpenGL support00:37
Nitsugawithout it OpenGL works, but very slowly00:37
charlie-tcaStrange. I didn't lose any00:37
Nitsugabrb00:37
xxploitquestion, is it still possible to remove menu icons. atm it seems i can only remove the icons from the system menu only00:44
RAOFNitsuga: I've just checked: selecting “NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version current)” in Hardware Drivers & rebooting results in a working nvidia blob + compiz & all the trappings.00:51
NitsugaRAOF, and installing nvidia-current doesnt?00:58
RAOFI didn't try that; Hardware Drivers does at least one extra thing (writing a proper xorg.conf), so I'm not sure that simply installing nvidia-current would be *expected* to work.00:59
NitsugaRAOF, the only thing that I miss is OpenGL suppor01:00
Nitsugaeither accelerated or software rendering01:00
RAOFNitsuga: Are you actually running the nvidia drivers, though?01:01
Nitsugayes, i am01:01
RAOFAnd you're certain of this, because... (please insert evidence)01:01
NitsugaRAOF, lspci -vnvn outputs Kernel driver in use: nvidia01:01
RAOFNitsuga: And what driver is *X* using?  Pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log, please.01:01
NitsugaRAOF, extract: (II) Feb 22 21:29:14 NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ (G92) at PCI:1:0:001:02
Nitsuga(II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"01:03
Nitsugacompiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.001:03
NitsugaModule class: X.Org Video Driver01:03
NitsugaI ran nvidia-xconfig01:03
NitsugaRAOF, now I'll try to  remove nvidia.current and install it from Hardware Drivers01:03
RAOFCan you pastebin the full Xorg.0.log please?  It might help diagnose your problem.01:04
Nitsugaok01:04
Nitsugahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/38174601:04
NitsugaRAOF, ^01:04
Nitsugaouch01:05
Nitsugawrong pastebin :P01:05
RAOFI don't think that's the pastebin you were meaning :)01:05
NitsugaRAOF, http://paste.ubuntu.com/381947/01:05
NitsugaRAOF, jockey finished installing the driver, I'll restart and chrack if it is working01:06
Nitsugacheck01:06
RAOFCool.01:06
ZykoticK9TwinView Quake 3 issue -- Points version plays on one monitor properly, ioQuake3 plays in middle of both monitors (both set to 1280x1024) --- I have an Xorg with metamodes including NULL values in hopes of auto-disabling one monitor.  Any suggestions?01:08
ck773I have a package stuck in my Update Manager, it's "Tomboy", and I can't remove it. The update manager looks to be in a distribution update mode and I can't check or uncheck Tomboy as it is greyed out.01:08
Nitsugano luck01:09
rr72is there a known issue with locking in lucid?01:09
rr72*session locking: ctrl -alt- delete01:09
NitsugaRAOF, I think I messed things up when I installed the NVIDIA's .run when the nvidia package was conflicting with Xorg01:11
ck773what does it mean when synaptic package manager has a grey exclamation mark on my Tomboy package?01:12
charlie-tcack773: that usually means it doesn't have all the dependencies ready yet01:13
charlie-tcaIt might update tomorrow or so01:13
Nitsugack773, thre is an update available01:13
Nitsugacharlie-tca, now Synaptic has new icons01:13
ck773okay so i marked it for upgrade and we'll see what happens01:13
charlie-tcawell, crap01:13
Nitsugathe exclamation mark mans "update available"01:13
* charlie-tca has to go looking again, huh?01:14
charlie-tcaThank you, Nitsuga01:14
Nitsugano prob01:14
ck773now it's green, i'll check my update manager now, hopefully my problem is solved01:15
ck773fixed.01:16
coz_anyone have issues enabling fastwrites and SBA on lucid?01:24
TakyojiFinally reported the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/52615701:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 526157 in ubiquity ""Invalid username" error when partitioning for installation in Ubiquity" [Undecided,New]01:30
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Steilhey is anyone here running UNR?01:46
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ZykoticK9any Dual Monitor / Nvidia users want to try "Separate X screen" and see if it causes nautilus to crash-n-burn like it does on my system?02:00
bcurtiswxi don't see sun-java6-plugin.. whats taking over for java in Lucid?02:07
ZykoticK9bcurtiswx, openjdk-6-jre or openjdk-6-jdk -- icedtea6-plugin for browser plugin02:10
NateWwhat would the issue be if when booting using todays build of the live cd, my monitor went into sleep mode? (21" Sony CRT, nVidia GeForce 250 GTS 1GB)02:10
NateWwould that be a unusable resolution or an issue with the nouveau drivers?02:10
bcurtiswxi have to have openjdk-6-jre and icedtea at the same time?02:10
gnomefreakno02:10
gnomefreakinstall openjdk-jre or what not02:11
bcurtiswxk ty02:11
ZykoticK9bcurtiswx, if you're looking for a browser plugin just install icedtea and let it worry about dependencies02:11
bcurtiswxk02:11
gnomefreakicedtea6-plugin should bring in what you need or install openjdk-6-jre02:13
Steilis anyone having trouble connecting to AIM with empathy?02:13
bcurtiswxSteil, yes02:14
coz_hey guys. apparenlty  /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc is ignored in lucid as far as I can tell...so  what would be the approach to enable fastwrites and sba on lucid?02:14
bcurtiswxbug #52614602:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 526146 in pidgin "empathy won't connect to AIM: May be a TLS issue" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52614602:14
SteilWhat about issues with the power manager and audio setting panel applets?02:16
DanaGmethinks that bug report is having an identity crisis.02:39
DanaGI tried icedtea.... just made the browser segfault all the time.02:39
bcurtiswxyeah ideatea crashes my browser.. always has..02:41
bcurtiswxicedtea*02:41
* Takyoji has also been having issues connecting to AIM through Empathy as well (I've marked that it affects me)02:43
DanaG"identity crisis"02:43
DanaGbug says pidgin and empathy at the same time.02:43
DanaGbug in pidgin: empathy won't connect.02:43
DanaG02:43
TakyojiWould that be associated with the telepathy-haze package as well, or?02:46
ZykoticK9WOW - TwinView on Lucid is working better for games then I thought possible!  Just using the default, nvidia generated xorg.conf and it's magically switching off one monitor -- AMAZING02:47
bjsniderall nvidia driver issues have basically been solved at this point in lucid02:51
bjsniderso i'm not sure what the background is for all of these complaints, because all day in this channel is just relentless nvidia complaints02:52
ZykoticK9Well I'm LOVING nvidia right now -- no complaints from me :)02:52
bjsnideri think most of these issues are just pebkac issues02:53
bjsnideryou cannot use the nvidia installer anymore or you will severely bork your system02:53
bjsniderthe nvidia-installer is not compatible with lucid's xorg/mesa system anymore02:54
bjsniderif you somehow succeed in using it you will probably have to do a wipe/reload afterwards02:54
arandHoly feces, now the speedboot kicked in all of a sudden, and how!02:59
Nitsugaok, i've tried everything03:16
Nitsugathe nvidia-current package just doesn't work for me03:16
bjsnideri wouldn't expect it to after someone's used the nvidia-installer03:18
Nitsugabjsnider, why?03:19
Nitsugawhat does it break?03:19
bjsniderthe nvidia-installer is no loner compatible with the xorg/mesa system in lucid03:20
RAOFNitsuga: So, what I'd suggest you do is to reinstall all the packages that the nvidia installer would have touched, like so: “sudo aptitude reinstall ~nxorg ~nmesa ~nlibg1 ~nnvidia”03:20
bjsniderit will in fact severely bork your system if you install it03:20
RAOFThat'll reinstall everything with xorg, mesa, libgl1 or nvidia in the package name.03:20
Nitsugai tried with mesa and libgl, but not with xorg03:21
Nitsugalet's see if i'm lucky03:21
bjsniderunfortunately the nvidia-installer may leave shared libs and links behind when it's removed too03:21
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bjsniderthis will be an interesting case study, to see if it's possible to recover from using the nvidia-installer03:29
Nitsugaok, reinstalled everything03:29
Nitsugabjsnider, if I were the nvidia-common packager, maybe i could recover from that :P03:30
bjsniderwe'll see03:30
* Nitsuga rebooting03:30
Nitsugastill without GL03:32
Nitsugaok, it's late03:33
Steilheh03:33
bjsnideri guess it's probably impossible03:33
NitsugaI'll go to bed and reinstall lucid tomorrow, if I can't find a solution03:33
Steilanyone running UNR?03:33
RAOFYeah?03:33
Steilyou having any issues with the power applet?03:34
RAOFNo.03:34
RAOFBut I presume you are?03:35
Steilyeah, missing icons and not reporting time remaining03:35
bjsnideri wonder if he has jockey installed03:35
bjsniderNitsuga, do you have jockey installed?03:35
Nitsugabjsnider, yes03:36
bjsniderand you activate the driver through the hardware drivers app?03:36
Nitsugayes03:36
bjsniderwell, that's the end of that03:37
Nitsugai think i found something03:38
bjsniderwhich nvidia driver did you install?03:38
Nitsugaa file in /usr/lib/xorg is referencing to a libgl.so that doesn't exist03:38
Nitsugai'll try to reference it to the one that DOES exists03:38
Nitsugabjsnider, the 190 -installer and the 190 -current03:39
Nitsugaand then upgraded to the 195 -current03:39
bjsnidertry ls /usr/lib/*190.5303:39
Nitsuganothing03:40
Nitsugabut locate 190.53 does output a list of things03:40
bjsniderpastebin03:41
Nitsugabjsnider, http://paste.ubuntu.com/382004/03:41
bjsniderlook at that03:42
bjsniderthere are also symlinks to a lot of those shared libs03:43
NitsugaI really have to go to bed.03:43
NitsugaAnd it doesn't matter, I n fact was expecting to have to reinstall lucid03:44
bjsniderok03:44
Nitsugawhen I installed tthe first alpha03:44
bjsniderinteresting test case though03:44
Nitsugagoodbye, thank you for your time and help ;)03:44
SensivaHello I am running lucid in a vbox, should I report bugs if any, or lucid isn't ready yet for vbox appliance installation?03:53
ZykoticK9Sensiva, what issue are you having?04:04
SensivaXorg crashes right after boot, then when I click the icon to report, it says that there is no enough memory to report04:05
SensivaThat vbox is 1024MB Ram04:05
ZykoticK9Sensiva, are you using Vbox from Ubuntu repo, or direct from Oracle?04:06
SensivaDirect from Oracle04:07
ZykoticK9I have Lucid running in Oracle's VBox with 1436MB memory04:07
ZykoticK93.1.4?04:07
Sensivayes04:07
ZykoticK9strange.  are you using a daily build?04:08
Sensivanope, I installed alpha1 and keeping it updated04:09
ZykoticK9Sensiva, well you could try increasing the memory and see if that allows you to report the issue.  I'm not really sure what the policy on running in VMs is regarding bugs, certainly make a note of it if you report04:10
Sensivaincrease the memory more than 1024MB?04:10
Sensiva:o04:10
ZykoticK9wait one second, i'll try decreasing mine and see what happens04:11
ZykoticK9although GDM restarted the 1st time I logged in, the 2nd attempt was successful.  You might want to try removing plymouth and see if that resolves it BTW04:13
ZykoticK9if you file a bug, they'll probably ask you to remove plymouth for testing anyway04:13
Sensivaremove not reinstall right?04:14
ZykoticK9not reinstall now -- remove plymouth and see if booting works < seems to be a COMMON troubleshooting step right now with Lucid04:14
SensivaOkay , thanks ZykoticK904:15
ZykoticK9Sensiva, good luck :)04:16
rippshmm... irqbalance is an interesting package, too bad I only have a single core processor.04:27
voidmagehmm04:46
voidmagehad a hard lock even after purging plymouth04:46
git__what's the significant of removing hal from Lucid Lynx?04:47
ZykoticK9git__, fast bootup/shutdown04:47
git__i have resume/suspend problem with my current 9.1004:48
ZykoticK9git__, if you notice the channel topic "(non-Free) nvidia users: avoid suspend/hibernate"04:48
ZykoticK9git__, you barely need suspend/resume with how fast it boots!04:48
git__i have a laptop04:49
ZykoticK9git__, i was amazed with the difference with boot speed between 9.04 to 9.10 and Lucid is even faster04:49
git__i thought maybe lucid lynx would solve my 9.10 resume/suspend04:50
ZykoticK9not quite to 10 seconds yet04:50
git__i like to resume my session :)04:50
ZykoticK9git__, if you don't have nvidia, perhaps it will (or perhaps it will be fixed prior to release)04:50
git__i don't have nvidia, i have ati graphic card04:51
git__resume/suspend reportedly has issue on that too?04:51
ZykoticK9git__, well then - perhaps lucid will solve your issue (perhaps it will not mind you)04:51
git__let me download alpha3 :)04:52
git__and see04:52
ZykoticK93 days :)04:52
git__how to enable resume download ?04:52
git__in 3 days ... there'll be a new rev?04:52
ZykoticK9that's when alpha3 comes out yes04:52
ZykoticK9git__, although i have had very good luck with Lucid I wouldn't recommend using it as your main machine quite yet - many issues are still popping up... dual boot perhaps?04:54
git__ZykoticK9, i'll resize my ext4 partition to make 20GB free for lucid04:55
ZykoticK9there you go :)04:55
git__can one resume download from the iso link for lucid ?04:56
ZykoticK9if you are using a torrent then yes - but you should probably wait until Alpha 3 is release (seeing as it's SO close)04:57
git__i have time tomorrow :)04:58
ZykoticK9git__, then download the daily04:58
git__i don't mind upgrading to a new rev within 2 days04:58
git__there's a daily?04:58
git__where to get the daily?04:59
ZykoticK9git__, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/04:59
ZykoticK9there are LOTS of updates going on in Lucid right now, i'd say a couple hundred megs a week for sure, just as an FYI05:00
DanaG /var/lib/dpkg/info/libgl1-mesa-dri.postinst: 12: Syntax error: "esac" unexpected (expecting "fi")05:00
git__thanks ZykoticK9 for the daily05:01
SensivaZykoticK9 Do you know when lucid theme will be out?05:01
ZykoticK9git__, hope you enjoy :)05:01
DanaGadding fi made it happy.05:01
ZykoticK9Sensiva, no idea -- i hear that usually comes pretty late05:01
SensivaI wonder how its gonna look like, since hardy the theme is getting darker and darker, in Karmic its totally dark brown, darker than this gonna be black05:03
git__do u have screenshot of Lucid Lynx ZykoticK9 ?05:04
Damascenehi,05:04
Sensivagit__ It is the same as Karmic for now05:04
git__ah05:04
git__what is uptrack?05:05
Damascenedoes mines game take too much CPU time?05:05
Sensivano idea git__05:05
git__did the random freeze of ext4 fix?05:05
git__i heard something like uptrack replacing sysV05:06
Sensivahttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lucid-changes05:06
git__is uptrack referring to KSplice tech?05:06
ZykoticK9upstart not uptrack05:07
ZykoticK9upstart is in karmic too05:07
Sensivaaccording to Wikipedia yes05:08
ZykoticK9oh my bad05:09
git__upstart?05:11
ZykoticK9upstart is what replaces sysv05:11
git__ah05:11
git__can i do init 3 with upstart?05:13
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ZykoticK9git__, ubuntu doesn't use runlevels like that (upstart or no upstart)05:13
git__there were times i had to go into init 3 to solve prob05:14
git__bc GUI was non-responsive05:14
ZykoticK9!runlevels05:14
ubottuIn Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.05:14
git__how does one order which service starts first?05:20
RAOFBy dependencies.05:22
Sensivabum?05:23
RAOFIn fact, you don't generally go “start all these scripts”; instead, you have a bunch of scripts with things like “start when the root filesystem is available”, or “start when networking is available”05:23
JanC2or start when this service is running (if you want some service to be running before starting another one)05:25
git__is there grouping of service startup?05:27
RAOFWhat do you mean by “grouping”?  Services are started when their startup requirements are met.05:28
git__u see, in sysV, grouping helps one to know if one is in single user mode or multi-user mode or in graphical user mode05:28
git__or in kernel rescue mode05:29
git__init 3 is multi-user console only, init 5 is graphical user mode, init 1 is rescue kernel mode, init 2 is single user mode05:29
git__init 6 is system reboot, init 0 is system halt05:29
RAOFExcept that Ubuntu didn't make the distinction between anything but 0,1 & 6 even before upstart.05:30
git__u will have friction from the redhat camp05:30
git__i suppose you can build sysv into upstart05:31
RAOFIndeed.  It's quite easy to build those runlevels from upstart scripts; that's what Ubuntu does, and given Fedora is using upstart too, I'd guess they do similar.05:33
JanC2git__: you can have much more variations with upstart than with sysvinit05:33
git__i prefer to have baby steps to upstart05:33
git__i remembered the days when X was giving me trouble, i had to go in init 305:34
git__and there were times when a DoS was hitting my system, i had to go into init 105:34
JanC2that sounds like you just want to stop gdm and/or X05:35
git__literally shuts down all connectivity services05:35
JanC2then you shut down connectivity services  ;)05:35
git__in a single command ... init 1 :)05:35
git__instead of a bunch of commands to do the same thing05:36
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git__sysV grouping made sense05:37
JanC2git__: in upstart, when configured properly, that and much more should be possible with 1 command too05:37
git__is upstart for server too?05:38
JanC2of course05:38
DanaG1argh, indicator-sound REALLY needs to have one volume control per device.05:38
git__can i install upstart on 9.10 desktop ver?05:38
JanC2upstart has been installed on all Ubuntu-versions since 3 or 4 years...05:39
git__hrmm05:40
git__so i've been using upstart all along? :)05:40
JanC2git__: really, upstart can do much more than sysvinit, including emulate it ;-)05:40
JanC2the recent upstart version (with up-to-date features like will go in lucid) is only in 9.10 though05:44
JanC2git__: basically, how upstart works is that init config files for services tell upstart on what events (status changes) they want to start and/or stop, so there is really no difference between "mysql is shutting down" or "the sysvinit emulation says the user wants to go to runlevel 3" events05:50
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git__initctl list05:55
git__upstart is process driven?05:55
Damascenedoes mines game take too much CPU time?06:00
git__omg06:19
git__there's a reason why ubuntu boots fast, it starts X server before any other services06:19
jpdsgit__: No, not really.06:21
virtualdit's mostly upstart that's made of awesome06:22
vishhow do i start a gdb for a gnome-keyring daemon? as it starts from the startup app in the session?06:25
vishor do i just start it later ?06:25
* vish needs it for a lucid crash06:25
RAOFYou can attach gdb to a running app; just run gdb gnome-keyring-daemon as usual, but instead of using “run” at the gdb prompt, use “attach $PID” where $PID is the pid of the running gnome-keyring-daemon.06:26
vishooh , neat trick.. you should add it to the wiki06:27
vishhehe , just found the wiki  , it is already there :)06:28
vishRAOF: thanks :)06:29
DanaG1or gdb -p `pidof gnome-keyring-daemon`06:30
SensivaIs anyone here assigned to apt bugs?06:32
vishargh... :/07:10
vishif i try to ctrl+c  the gdb doesnt quit and return me to (gdb)07:11
vishit just stays as ^C  and if i hit enter , the gnome-keyring starts again07:11
vishhow do i retrieve the backtrace now?07:13
alkisgI installed Lucid a while ago, and the -pae kernel was automatically selected for me. On some updates the non-pae kernel was pulled in, so I now have both of them installed. The problem is that I can't uninstall the non-pae kernel, without removing xorg:07:27
alkisgsudo LANG=en_US.UTF-8 apt-get purge linux-image-2.6.32-14-generic07:27
alkisgThe following packages will be REMOVED:07:27
alkisg  linux-backports-modules-nouveau-2.6.32-14-generic* linux-backports-modules-nouveau-lucid-generic* linux-image-2.6.32-14-generic* xserver-xorg-video-all*  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau*07:27
alkisgIs that problem caused by the nouveau driver?07:28
kklimondaalkisg: fix has been uploaded and now is probably building or awaiting publication07:44
alkisgkklimonda: thank you07:45
kklimondaalkisg: and it was a missing dependency in xserver-xorg-video-nouveau07:45
Damascenedid the problem with keyring got fixed?07:49
vishnope :(07:49
* vish still doesnt know how to retrieve the backtrace :s ^07:49
Damascenehow to get the version of the gnome-keyring ?07:50
Damascenethere is no man page07:50
vishhmm?07:50
vishDamascene: are you $ apt-cache policy gnome-keyring ?07:51
vishlooking for that ^07:51
Damasceneyes thanks. I think now I can just look if the version changed or not07:52
voidmagehm08:13
voidmageso i'm still hard locking even after purging plymouth08:14
voidmagewhich leads me to suspect the 195 drivers like I originally thought08:14
voidmagetoo bad the 190 drivers aren't packaged in lucid :|08:14
voidmage(since those didn't cause hard locks)08:14
zniavrevoidmage, can't you use the nvidia.run ?08:21
voidmageI've been hesitant to install them from nvidia's site because of the changes to the alternatives system08:22
zniavrei did it since nvidia-settings was bugged  (for legacy 173.14.xx driver)08:23
zniavreit works as a charm08:24
voidmagehuh, that's news to me08:24
zniavrei think you can find good how-to in your language to install nvidia.run easily (at least to try if it works better than repos driver)08:25
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bullgardWhat Empathy version does Lucid provide?08:43
ikonia!empathy08:44
ubottuEmpathy is the default instant messaging and video client for GNOME. Since Karmic, it has been the default client in Ubuntu (replacing Pidgin).08:44
ikonia!info empathy08:44
ubottuempathy (source: empathy): GNOME multi-protocol chat and call client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.29.90-0ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 341 kB, installed size 1284 kB08:44
BUGabundo_remotethere you go08:45
BUGabundo_remotemorning matt08:45
BUGabundo_remotebullgard: feel free to use packages.ubuntu.com08:45
bullgardikonia: Thank you for your help.08:46
bullgardBUGabundo_remote: Please tell me what do you mean by "feel free to...".08:46
BUGabundo_remoteo_O08:51
BUGabundo_remotebullgard: as in, that information is available there08:51
bullgardBUGabundo_remote: Yes. I forgot that. Thank you that you reminded me that I could have looked up this information myself there.08:54
eagles0513875hey guys08:58
eagles0513875im having some issues with a kernel panic after upgrading to karmic08:58
eagles0513875anyone else experiencing this08:58
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BUGabundo_remoteeagles0513875: "define" issues09:03
eagles0513875kernel is panicing09:03
Kanohi, why does toram do nothing?09:03
eagles0513875i just did an upgrade from karmic to lucid on a virtual box vm09:03
BUGabundo_remoteKano: hasn't done anything for at lesat 2 years09:03
BUGabundo_remoteif not more09:03
Kanowhy does nobody fix it09:03
Kanoalso in the current live it crashes when i use sudo -i09:04
Kanowhy that09:04
BUGabundo_remoteKano: I tried, no luck. feel free to provide patchs, send to LP, and contact the kernel team09:04
Kanotoram is no kernel option, thats casper09:04
BUGabundo_remoteAFAIK you are the 1t to report crashes with sudo09:05
Kanolive mode09:05
BUGabundo_remoteeagles0513875: probably the plymouth bug.09:05
BUGabundo_remotego to recovery console, purge it off, try again09:05
eagles0513875i cant even get to grub09:06
BUGabundo_remoteKano: again, please redirect your effors to LP09:06
BUGabundo_remoteeagles0513875: if you can't get to grub, your prob is NOT the OS09:06
phildinihi. if I wanted an in-depth look at a particular part of lucid development, namely support for intel core i* processors and graphics, where could I look and possibly contribute?09:06
eagles0513875BUGabundo_remote: the kernle panic is saying cant mount root fs on unknown ws-block(0,0)09:06
BUGabundo_remotephildini: #ubutnnu-kernel, #Ubuntu-x, #Ubuntu-motu, #Ubuntu-devel09:08
phildinithanks.09:08
alex88hi guys... someone have sound problems on ubuntu 10.04? i've sound working on all apps other than rhytmbox...09:21
kklimondaalex88: have you checked if rhythmbox volume isn't set too low?09:22
kklimondaboth in program and the sound preferences09:22
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alex88kklimonda: yep.. when i was on 32bit that was the problem09:24
alex88but now in 64 i've both set to max09:24
alex88and it's the same thing09:24
kklimondait works for me (which doesn't really help you but I have no other ideas)09:25
alex88np...=) also on terminal i have no messages09:25
alex88i think i'll install amarok09:26
eagles0513875strange the kernel panic was do to just resetting vbox i shut it down and started it up again and its working just fine09:27
alex88btw, this ubuntu on 64 bit it's lightning fast..=)09:28
alex88mmhh..there are some alsa etc updates... trying it after update..09:29
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booboohey guys a couple of questions...is plymouth still giving nvidia issues  and also  how to enable sba and fast writes on lucid?10:04
alex88booboo: funno... for me on nvidia plymouth still force me to reboot when i press enter key10:06
alex88*dunno10:06
boobooalex88, ok i will take that as a yes then :)10:06
Kanobooboo: you still use agp?10:12
boobooKano,  on 2 machines  yes10:12
BUGabundo_remoteerr10:12
BUGabundo_remotedarn gnome keyring bug10:13
BUGabundo_remoteanyone got a *good* trace?10:13
boobooplus ..when released . I have clients that will want an upgrade10:13
zniavrealex88,  there is some bugreport about this behaviour10:22
zniavrebooboo,  exactly as before for fastwrite10:23
booboozniavre, seems not to work but will try on another machine I am installing on now10:25
zniavre> in this file /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc just think to precise the good driver10:25
zniavrenvidia-96   or -173 or -glx etc...10:25
booboook i will try :)10:25
zniavreor nothing if you are using nvidia.run10:26
zniavrebooboo, http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/5397/captureta.png   don't use same option line of me > it depend your hardware10:27
booboozniavre,  that's exactly what I have in there but it still wont enable :(  I will try on the other machine though10:28
zniavrewich driver ?10:28
zniavreyou need full reboot to take in effect10:28
booboozniavre,  19010:28
booboozniavre,  right about the reboot but hasnt worked yet on this machine10:29
zniavretry options nvidia-190  or nvidia_19010:29
booboook10:29
zniavremaybe nvidia-glx   depends how its called for system10:30
BUGabundo_remotebooboo: zniavre: the driver package name is nvidia-current10:33
zniavreBUGabundo_remote,  was bugged for me i installed the .run10:38
zniavrenvidia-settings did not detect screen resolution10:38
zniavrei reported a bug but nobody answer10:39
zniavrehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-settings/+bug/52310810:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 523108 in nvidia-settings "nvidia x server settings on ubuntu 10.4" [Undecided,New]10:41
zniavrei did what alberto milone ask but it did not help10:42
zniavreso i tried .run i works fine10:42
BUGabundo_remoterunning nvidia site driver is such a bad option10:44
BUGabundo_remoteit will give you very little support from ubuntu ppl10:45
zniavrebut it works10:45
zniavreat least10:45
zniavre:o)10:45
zniavrethe time to update nvidia 173.14.xx10:45
zniavrei agree with you anyway do not think im against ubuntu ppl10:46
booboohey guys what do I do here? http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_7.png10:46
boobooI ask because I have tried severl things already and none worked10:47
BUGabundo_remotebooboo: just CHOOSE ONE10:48
BUGabundo_remoteeither SDA OR sdb10:48
BUGabundo_remotedon't do bonh10:48
boobooBUGabundo_remote,  well that's the problem... I have done that one or the other already   ...both failed10:48
booboosdb is the ubuntu install and sda is the windows install10:51
boobooeither one chosen and it fails during boot...10:51
booboothese are scsi drivers  and in bios  HD0 = sda in boot device priority10:53
booboohowever it will not boot10:53
booboodrives not drivers10:53
boobooand in scsi bios   the windows drive is the primary disk10:54
booboowindows drive = sda/HD010:55
tgpraveen12can someone confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/52573511:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 525735 in ubuntu "Mouse accessability in assistive technologies doesnt work" [Undecided,New]11:18
BUGabundo_remoteanyone experiencing chromium showing the gtk top bars? even when disabled?11:52
tgpraveen12BUGabundo_remote: i am11:56
BUGabundo_remoteis it known? ie is on LP or ch BTS?12:00
tgpraveen12can someone confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/52573512:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 525735 in ubuntu "Mouse accessability in assistive technologies doesnt work" [Undecided,New]12:08
tgpraveen12BUGabundo_remote: ^^?12:08
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mostafakvdhow to find a word in files?12:54
coz_hey guys.. I know this is not "approved"   however ..how do I unlock the root account?12:54
coz_I have already done passwd root12:55
coz_however login screen will not allow root access12:55
JoshuaLcoz_, what do you want to accomplish with being root you can't do with sudo coz_ ?12:58
coz_JoshuaL,  understood but on rare occasions I need root account12:59
coz_JoshuaL,  I just need to create or unlock the root account12:59
JoshuaLcoz_, http://naturefactory.wordpress.com/2009/12/21/unlock-the-root-account-in-ubuntu-9-10/ altough there is really no need to use a root account when you have sudo and gksudo13:01
coz_JoshuaL,  i tried that but it doesnt work but let me go there to be sure it is the same reference13:01
coz_JoshuaL,  yeah that doesnt work13:02
BUGabundo_remotetgpraveen12: can't confirm. dotn use13:06
jpds!noroot | JoshuaL13:19
ubottuJoshuaL: We do not support having a root password set. See !root and !wfm for more information.13:19
BUGabundo_remotelol13:19
BUGabundo_remotejpds: he was only trying to help13:20
BUGabundo_remoteplus coz is a regular13:20
JanC2not so regular apparently, or he/she would know all this ;)13:21
SwedeMikewhat password is used in rescue mode? Earlier I was unable to log into rescue mode without root password set13:22
jester_hi all, i have a weee bit of a problem. I just upgraded to lucid and formatted all my partitions, except /home. after the install, I say that my home directory was empty except for .Private - I also see a symlink for .ecryptfs -> /var/lib/ecryptfs/jester which is now gone after the upgrade. Is there  way for me to get my data back?13:24
JanC2SwedeMike: none13:28
kklimondajester_: not really13:28
kklimondajester_: data is in the encrypted form on the deleted partition - it sounds like a mission impossible to me.13:29
jester_kklimonda: :(13:29
JanC2eh, storing encrypted /home on /var sounds weird to me?13:30
kklimondait does - on lucid encrypted home directory is stored in /home/.ecryptfs13:32
kklimondabut maybe it was in /var on karmic13:32
kklimondajester_: check if maybe you have a /home/.ecryptfs13:32
kklimondajester_: or something similar13:32
jester_kklimonda: yeah, it was from karmic - there is no /home/.ecryptfs13:32
BUGabundo_remotevish: applied for membership?13:33
* vish just got approved ;)13:33
kklimondanice13:33
vishBUGabundo_remote: yeah :)13:33
jester_kklimonda: i guess they moved it from /var/lib/ecryptfs to /home13:33
kklimondajester_: it sounds weird though13:33
kklimonda /var is not a place for users' files13:33
BUGabundo_remotecongrats vish13:34
vishthanks :)13:34
BUGabundo_remoteI was just going throuth the email flood13:34
BUGabundo_remoteand saw it there13:34
vishBUGabundo_remote: email? where ?13:34
BUGabundo_remoteheh13:34
* BUGabundo_remote has its secretes13:34
vish;p13:34
jester_kklimonda: /home and /var were on serperate LVM partitions. When I did the upgrade, I formated all my partitions (var opt root usr tmp) except home - because home is all my data13:34
jester_kklimonda13:34
vishBUGabundo_remote: ubuntu has too many ML and irc , sometimes i just get lost ;)13:35
jester_kklimonda: but i see that the symlink for ecryptfs points to /var13:35
kklimondajester_: exactly why I'm surprised that you have a symlink to /var/lib/ecryptfs/13:35
SwedeMikeJanC2: so I just press <enter> when asked for the password or ctrl-d prompt?13:35
kklimondait doesn' make any sense to me - but I haven't used home directory encryption yet13:35
jester_kklimonda: i did some googling and found a lot of ppl in the same boat - it must have been an karmic thing13:35
BUGabundo_remotevish: add wikis help, lp pages13:35
vishheh, that is even worse :s13:36
jester_kklimonda: thanks for the help thought13:36
kklimondaheh, I should probably request per package upload rights for transmission13:36
BUGabundo_remotecool kklimonda13:36
kklimondabut I'm too lazy to finish my wiki page ;)13:36
BUGabundo_remotego mess with our system, will you ?13:36
BUGabundo_remoteahahahah13:36
kklimondayou are using vuze anyway you traitor :P13:37
vishkklimonda: transmission if in the startup items , it sometimes misses the indicator-application and uses the notification area13:37
kklimondavish: hmm..13:37
BUGabundo_remotekklimonda: I don't even use BT clients13:37
vishbut this happens sometimes..13:37
kklimondavish: report it13:37
vishkklimonda: i havent been able to reproduce it consistently :(  , worse i'm having second thoughts about transmission , it doesnt control speeds effectively13:38
kklimondavish: the problem with falling back to notification area may not be limited to transmission - all applications that use application-indicator should have the same problem13:39
JanC2SwedeMike: in rescue mode, there should be no password prompt, unless you did weird things to your system13:39
vishi set the speed limits and i notice it using more bandwidth13:39
tgpraveen12congrats vish13:39
vishty :)13:39
JanC2SwedeMike: or unless you do block device encrytion of course13:39
vishkklimonda: i guess  , but transmission is very fast in starting up or it misses the i-a more13:40
tgpraveen12kklimonda: transmission cant queue torrents right? like 3 are active rest are queued or something13:40
kklimondavish: so we should.. slow it down? ;}13:40
tgpraveen12that seems so fundamental and is my only gripe and why i prefer deluge for torrent13:40
vishkklimonda: well , yeah. ;p   i cant browse if transmission is running :(13:40
vishit is a problem with torrents with good seeds13:41
kklimondavish: slow it down so it starts up later ;)13:41
kklimondavish: I think the speed control issue has been reported to transmission trac but I can't find it right now..13:41
SwedeMikeJanC2: I'll check next time, it might be that I've just looked at the ctrl-d prompt and taken for granted this wasn't changed the past 10 years, because all the time I've seen that before it's asked for the root pw to drop to shell13:41
vishkklimonda: thats my workaround for now , i'v added sleep for the startup items13:41
kklimondavish: you can always open a bug in LP and I or charles are going to link it to the upstream ticket..13:42
kklimondatgpraveen12: no - it doesn't have this feature13:42
* vish shudders at the sound of trac :s13:42
kklimondatgpraveen12: I'm not even sure if it's something that haven't been implemented on purpose or because no one requested it.13:42
tgpraveen12kklimonda: any specific reason? it seems nobody has a bug for this in transmission tracker13:43
vishkklimonda: another most basic feature i miss is queuing of torrents.13:43
tgpraveen12i think it is on purpose.maybe simplicity thru featureless13:43
kklimondatgpraveen12: http://trac.transmissionbt.com/ticket/67113:43
tgpraveen12vish: exactly what i am asking about13:43
* vish reports transmission speed bug13:43
kklimondatgpraveen12: but it's not going to land in Lucid for sure - too late for such a change in my opinion13:44
vishppa \o/13:44
vish;p13:44
kklimondasure13:44
tgpraveen12Opened 2 years ago13:44
tgpraveen12:-(13:44
kklimondabut I see it has been discussed recently13:45
vishoh already reported > Bug #46073313:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 460733 in transmission "Transmission bit-torrent doesn't honor speed limitation preferences" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46073313:47
gnomefreakkklimonda: whats not making it in?13:48
kklimondavish: can you comment on this bug - answer charle's questions from the 4th comment13:48
vishyup, on it13:48
vish also found the queuing bug > Bug #46025113:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 460251 in transmission "(Feature) Allow Next paused download to start when previous download has finished." [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46025113:48
kklimondagnomefreak: torrent queue patch? it has been poorly written13:48
gnomefreakkklimonda: ah. noone in going to fix the patch?13:49
kklimondagnomefreak: well - I could probably fix it if people are so interested in the feature :)13:51
BUGabundo_remotetgpraveen12: kklimonda: I reported that bug upstream. it was one of the fetures I missed13:52
vishkklimonda: pretty pls..  :D13:52
kklimondagnomefreak: I'm going to talk with patch author today and see if he's still interested in fixing issues and if not I'll probably do it13:52
gnomefreakoh its adds a feature well we al ready reached FF AFAIK13:52
vishFFE \o/13:53
kklimondagnomefreak: right - this patch and the one to handle logout gracefully won't make it into lucid :/13:53
vishit is a very basic feature , no sure why the devs didnt think of it for so long :(13:54
gnomefreakthat would be right :) i thought it was just fixing something i didnt releeaze it was feature related13:54
tgpraveen12kklimonda: pretty pls.. +113:57
BUGabundo_remoteupdate-alternatives: using /usr/bin/gedit to provide /usr/bin/gnome-text-editor (gnome-text-editor) in auto mode.14:05
BUGabundo_remoteI already see ppl coming in with broken scripts :)14:05
kklimondawhy?14:08
BUGabundo_remoteno more gedit14:08
kklimondavish: have you opened a report about Transmission launching too fast and showing in the notification area?14:12
arandIf anyone is bored and wants to do some testing i've got a patched for-9.10 vbox, which should take care of the acpi issue currrently seen when using a lucid guest: https://launchpad.net/~arand/+archive/virtualbox14:13
vishkklimonda: not yet , will do it soon ,  i'm reading charles replies on the speed bug and trying to provide info14:13
kklimondavish: how do you measure speed? by reading what is displayed in the Transmission window or by using some other tool?14:14
kklimondavish: and do you limit speed by using turtle mode? does it happen all the time or only after you close and reopen transmission?14:15
vishkklimonda: the transmission window lies ;)  but from conky , the sys monitor and inability to use the web i can see the speeds are higher14:15
kklimondaright14:15
vishkklimonda: the problem is more with torrents with good seeds.  but it is a problem always :( irrespective of the mode , the closest way i can limit is setting the limit for the individual torrent , but even that is not effective14:18
vishnot very effective*14:18
tgpraveen12BUGabundo_remote: gtk+2.0 (2.19.5-1ubuntu6) lucid; urgency=low14:29
tgpraveen12  * debian/patches/062_client_side_decoration.patch:14:29
tgpraveen12    - update by Cody Russell to fix an issue with applications which turn their14:29
tgpraveen12      decorations off as chromium is doing14:29
BUGabundo_remotetgpraveen12: so it's the same bug??14:34
BUGabundo_remote  Installed: 2.19.5-1ubuntu514:35
BUGabundo_remotetime to update, again14:35
tgpraveen12yup14:35
BUGabundo_remotehasn't build yet14:38
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vishtgpraveen12: did you read my comment about the volume indicator!14:53
vishtgpraveen12: the bug has been worked around in humanity :(14:53
vishgtk..14:54
vishtgpraveen12: you are just giving the gtk devs an excuse to close the bug ;p14:54
tgpraveen12oh didnt knw14:55
tgpraveen12good work on workaropund then14:55
vishtgpraveen12: see comment 12 the one before yours14:57
tgpraveen12vish: oh i see the issue now15:10
tgpraveen12should i comment anything on the bug?15:11
vishyup15:11
tgpraveen12vish: done15:18
kklimondavish: was vuze handling speed limits in a better way?15:27
kklimondavish: all p2p clients are going to have this problem to some extent15:27
vishkklimonda: 100%  i never had problems with vuze ever15:31
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vishin vuze if i set a limit it just stays with it , but transmission is always exceeding the limit15:32
Nitsugavish, my transmission takes about a minute to respect the limit15:33
vishkklimonda: thats why i attached the graph , it is constantly over the limit never comes down15:33
Nitsugabut then it stays with it15:33
BUGabundo_remotevish: that's a liew15:33
vishNitsuga: not for me :(15:34
BUGabundo_remoteI set at 10k upload, and my system goes up to 5015:34
vishNitsuga: the limits take time in clients , i'v seen that happen in vuze and in windows with utorrent.. but transmission does not do a good job15:35
vishNitsuga: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39613148/limits%20not%20honoured.png15:36
kklimondavish: maybe something else is messing your graph? :/15:36
vish ;p15:36
kklimondavish: but transmission could do a better job for sure15:37
vishkklimonda: so conky and sys monitor are wrong but transmission works fine ? ;)15:37
kklimondathis is something charles says he's going to work on for 2.0 release15:37
vish:(15:37
vishkklimonda: so it wont be fixed for Lucid? or anytime soon15:38
vishbut sadly there are only a few[2?] devs working on transmission , which is tough for them as well15:39
kklimondavish: also transmission only counts data sent/received and not all protocol related communication "so if we send out a half-dozen encrypted handshakes per second none of that gets counted"15:39
kklimondavish: but there is still room for improvement for sure :)15:39
kklimondavish: actually charles is the person who does most of the low level work15:39
bcurtiswx_Ok, so i need some people using lucid to verify the following bugs for me-->open firefox and load 4 tabs... only 3 should give you the options on top (refresh, stop, home) and the 4th should be all greyed out--> then.. use Help-->Report a Problem and lemme know what error you get15:40
BUGabundo_remotekklimonda: 4 times of over head???15:41
vishkklimonda: oh , my mention of "2" was from what i recently read on their wiki.. :)15:41
abhifxi have downloaded lucid daily and was trying to run wubi.... but it keeps on trying to download from the net. plz help me15:41
kklimondaBUGabundo_remote: well - if you set limits to 5/5 then the overhead for the protocol is going to be noticeable :)15:41
vishkklimonda: why does it use so much over head?15:42
kklimondavish: I think there are at most 3 people with commit access to svn15:42
ZykoticK9is the volume control in the panel just part of indicator-applet?15:42
BUGabundo_remoteabhifx: I nocited that too15:42
Nitsugabcurtiswx, The package firefox-3.6 doesn't exists15:42
kklimondavish: well - enryption, all dht related data, in big swarms client gets a lot "I have it!" messages too ;)15:42
bcurtiswx_Nitsuga: yeah, i believe that should just be reporting to firefox.. not -3.615:43
abhifxBUGabundo_remote, so any solution??15:43
Nitsugaabhifx, lucid Alpha doesn't suppor wubi yet (i think)15:43
vishkklimonda: but still too much , why wasnt this a problem with other clients?  i literally cannot use the web if trasnmission is running15:43
vishirrespective of what i set my limit15:43
kklimondavish: sure - there is still a lot of room for improvement as I've said15:44
vish;)15:44
abhifxNitsuga, but its included in the daily build and is supposed to be supported in alpha 315:44
kklimondavish: also depends on how many connections you have set up etc.15:45
vishkklimonda: the default seems 6015:45
bcurtiswx_anyone else have the firefox tab problem?15:45
gnomefreakbcurtiswx_: i cant test atm but i dont recall seeing that15:46
* vish checks vuze peer settings15:46
bcurtiswx_gnomefreak: OK.  I'm just trying to see if its just me or others. or a certain subset of others (AMD64)15:47
BUGabundo_remotevish: you can workaround it15:48
BUGabundo_remotelet me find that app I used to limit upload15:48
BUGabundo_remotetraffi shapper15:48
vishBUGabundo_remote: yeah , probably , i'm checking the peer limit settings from vuze15:48
BUGabundo_remote!info trickle15:49
ubottutrickle (source: trickle): user-space bandwidth shaper. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.07-9 (lucid), package size 36 kB, installed size 168 kB15:49
BUGabundo_remotevish use that and limit upload15:49
bcurtiswx__way to go xchat.. plugin crashes :P15:50
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vishBUGabundo_remote: neat :)15:51
* vish tries15:51
bcurtiswx_hmm... thats odd...15:51
bcurtiswx_idk how I have another connection open15:54
bcurtiswx_but 129.174.97.34 is my current IP15:54
bcurtiswx_lol sry.. crash fest going on here..15:56
bcurtiswx_anyone verify my firefox tab issue?15:56
zniavresomebady experiencing strange behavior with awn and applet with window decoration around ?16:22
zniavrehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/awn/+bug/52582716:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 525827 in awn "window decoration is displayed around AwnDialogs" [Medium,Incomplete]16:23
zniavrei hope the libgtk solved this but it only works for chromium16:25
kklimondazniavre: weird, it should fix it globally16:25
zniavre:o(16:26
zniavrei installed chromium when i saw somebody talked about it, thinking it was related but awn still bugged16:27
kklimondabut I can't find the bug right now so maybe I'm mistaken16:27
zniavreif i can help to submit debug info for awn ?16:30
zniavreby the way the enter keystroke on gdm look solved16:32
kklimondathe one when pressing enter killed X?16:32
zniavreyep16:32
kklimondaI'm not sure if it's fixed or just it's harder to reproduce it lately16:32
zniavrei can retry it now , give me 10sec :o)16:33
zniavreshame on me16:35
zniavrebut it works once ...16:35
zniavrehello vish16:37
BUGabundo_remotezniavre: not fixed for me yet16:39
BUGabundo_remotebug I haven't install -6 yet16:39
zniavrei installed it works for chromium (you talked about this bug this morning no ? )16:40
vishzniavre: hi..16:40
* vish trying to debug the gnome-keyring16:40
BUGabundo_remoteThe following packages will be upgraded:16:40
BUGabundo_remote  aisleriot glchess glines gnect gnibbles gnobots2 gnome-games-common gnome-mahjongg gnome-panel-data gnome-sudoku gnomine gnotravex gnotski gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gtk2-engines-pixbuf gvfs gvfs-backends16:40
BUGabundo_remote  gvfs-bin gvfs-fuse libgail-common libgail18 libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common libgvfscommon0 libpci3 mutt pciutils quadrapassel16:40
BUGabundo_remotehere we go16:41
BUGabundo_remotelets hope this fixes it16:41
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Machtinhm.. i don't have a xorg.conf.. just a  xorg.conf.failsafe.17:05
Machtinmight that be why i don't have a picture when i try to boot?17:06
Machtinthough, i can't even switch to a tty or do anything, but ctrl+alt+del to reboot17:06
BluesKajMachtin, which graphics card...you may need to install an updated driver ?17:17
ckontrosIm getting windows that shouldnt have window borders around them. Like tilda, Chromium and GDM. Anyone know what's up?17:24
ZykoticK9ckontros, i'm not experiencing that but I believe BUGabundo_remote or zniavre might have some insights17:26
MachtinBluesKaj: nvidia 26017:26
ckontrosZykoticK9: Thanx17:27
Machtini did something, that made it possible to boot, but after entering my luks-passphrase, i have to alt+print+k to get to a root shell, from where i can manually mount the partition from /dev/mapper17:27
BUGabundo_remoteme ?17:27
ZykoticK9ckontros, i was hoping that my including there names would get there attention -- hope you find a fix, best of luck17:27
BUGabundo_remoteoh the GTK bug17:27
Machtinhowever, after i startx, i can't set my resolution to anything higher than 1280*720. and some other things don't work (which probably is, because i can't boot properly.)17:28
ckontrosBUGabundo_remote: Known issue? (metacity around GDM window and such)17:30
BUGabundo_remoteno idea17:30
BUGabundo_remotedon't use metacity17:30
BUGabundo_remoteand i«m not getting what you mean17:30
BUGabundo_remotetake a screenshot17:30
ZykoticK9ckontros, LOL - well i just install audacious music player and guess what - it's got decorations around it -- timing is everything!17:31
ckontrosBUGabundo_remote: Windows that /shouldn't/ have metacity borders/controls (like GDM, tilda or Chromium) have them.17:31
ZykoticK9ckontros, chromium too -- doh!17:31
ckontrosZykoticK9: Exactly.17:32
BUGabundo_remoteright, I'm getting them on Chromium17:33
BluesKajMachtin, I think you may need this proprietary driver from nvidia : http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_177.13.html17:33
kklimondackontros: known issue17:34
ZykoticK9BluesKaj, are you suggesting installing the Nvidia driver (from Nvidia) on Lucid?  I thought that was a huge "no-no"17:34
BUGabundo_remoteZykoticK9: blob working fine again17:34
ckontroskklimonda: Figured. Ok. Just wanted to be sure I'm not crazy. ;)17:34
ZykoticK9BUGabundo_remote, really?  wow, good to know17:34
MachtinBluesKaj: do you think that will change the booting problem? because like i said, it's stuck right between unlocking my cryptload-partition and mounting it17:35
BluesKajZykoticK9, maybe a nono , Machtin if you have grub working, then it could be a graphics driver problem ...anyway , I have to do some errands and things for a few hrs17:37
ZykoticK9I have a real tough time finding bugs on LP - does anyone have any general tips for search Lucid specific bugs?  When I submit a bug I always seem to have many more suggestions for "is this the same as X" then when I search LP for pertinent bugs.17:39
kklimondawhat is the status of adsl support in network-manager? do you have any good links to discussion about it?17:40
kklimondait is the most often raised topic on our LoCo forum :/17:40
BUGabundo_remotekklimonda: funy enough *here* no ones asks for it17:43
BUGabundo_remoteall our ADSL have modens17:44
BUGabundo_remotemost with ether17:44
kklimondaBUGabundo_remote: the most popular adsl modem in Poland is some Sagem F@st 80017:45
kklimondaBUGabundo_remote: and it only has usb :/17:45
BUGabundo_remotewait17:46
BUGabundo_remotehow fast is your internet17:46
BUGabundo_remotecause usb won't got that fast17:46
BUGabundo_remotethe leastwe get here is like 2 or 4mb/s17:46
kklimondaBUGabundo_remote: no - I don't use it or I would actually start doing something about ;)17:47
kklimondaBUGabundo_remote: I have a cable modem with ethernet <3 ;)17:47
ZykoticK9these window decorations appears on programs they shouldn't (Chromium / Audacious) should this be filed under libgtk2.0-0 or some other package?17:51
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BUGabundo_remoteno ideas17:55
BUGabundo_remoteask seb12817:55
zniavreZykoticK9,  i got this kind of bug with awn > i filed a bug report into awn launchpad they are thinking it's ubuntu bug17:56
zniavrehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/awn/+bug/52582717:56
xxploithello, i just rebooted my system and it goes straight to running a mem test repeatedly, i thought i boot loader screen used to show while pressing esc but i get nothing. Anyway i can get grub to show so i can boot into something other than the mem test?17:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 525827 in awn "window decoration is displayed around AwnDialogs" [Medium,Incomplete]17:57
ZykoticK9zniavre, i'm SURE it's Lucid related issue17:57
zniavrei thought it was libgtk but todays uppdate did not help (only for chromium)17:57
ZykoticK9my chromium is still messed17:58
vishzniavre: dup of bug #52486917:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 524869 in gtk+2.0 "Login window has title bar with buttons and frame" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52486917:59
zniavreyes that s true and you can move login window as regular window18:00
vishzniavre: that bug has a list of other apps affected too , mention awn also , its not an awn bug18:00
zniavreok18:01
kklimondaZykoticK9: do you have the newest gtk+ installed?18:03
kklimondaZykoticK9: at least chrome issue is fixed in the 2.19.5-1ubuntu6 release18:03
zniavrevish,  done18:04
om26erjust read that with gtk-csd google chrome's tabs can now appear in the gtk theme we use if they implement18:05
* penguin42 giggles at the mute bug bouncing around about 3 packages18:05
ZykoticK9kklimonda, oh the difference 5 hours can make when your running Lucid.  Ya updating to new libgtk as we speak18:06
ZykoticK9kklimonda, thanks - it's fixed for Chromium now -- still see the issue in Audacious mind you18:12
om26erpenguin42, was that bug 524308 ?18:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 524308 in indicator-application "Application Indicator doesn't process menu changes (e.g. checkboxes)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52430818:13
penguin42om26er: Yeh18:14
penguin42om26er: It seems pretty repeatable for me (in one of 3 or 4 different forms)18:14
penguin42om26er: Looks like unfortunately it seems to work for the guy trying to debug it, I just posted saying if there was any debug I could gather I'd be happy to18:14
om26erindicator-sound>libindicate>indicator-sound>libindicate>indicator-application18:16
om26ernow It settled I think18:16
* penguin42 doesn't quite understand the range of thing indicator is supposed to cover; I can understand comms things (mail/IM etc) all come under the type of things where you get notified or where your idleness is related - I'm not clear why the volume stuff is18:23
penguin42(Not that I have a problem with it, I just would like to understand)18:25
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barridusI'm getting a login screen with the Kubuntu Lucid LiveCD...  what's the default user/pass?18:32
JontheEchidnaubuntu/ no password18:33
barridus*slaps forehead*  duh.  thanks, JontheEchidna18:33
JontheEchidnano prob18:34
tdnI tried upgrading my Lenovo S10 from UNR 9.10 to Lucid, but I got this error during upgrade: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/paste/P1487.html What does that mean? Is my system completely broken now?19:04
charlie-tcaNot completely. Just means grub probably is broken and you will need https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2  to help put it back19:06
charlie-tcaYou can tab to no and tehn tell it to install grub to sda19:07
charlie-tcano would be the 7^A^A��� , I think19:07
tdncharlie-tca, I use LUKS and LVM to encrypt my disk. Can this be the cause?19:12
charlie-tcano19:12
tdncharlie-tca, ok. Is this a known problem?19:12
charlie-tcait is the changes to grub. I got it with out encrypting19:12
charlie-tcayes19:12
tdncharlie-tca, ok. How did you fix it?19:13
charlie-tcaIf you did not continue, tab to the 'not yes' tab and hit enter. Then tell grub to install to sda19:13
charlie-tcaif you hit enter, then you go to the wiki page and read19:13
charlie-tcahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub219:14
tdncharlie-tca, I chose No, but then I get the same error again.19:15
tdnI keep getting the same error all the time.19:15
tdnIt seems that the encoding is all a mess, whats up with that?19:16
tdncharlie-tca, I am reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub219:16
charlie-tcaThat is another bug... bug 52639119:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 526391 in cdebconf "Debian Installer screen text is corrupted" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52639119:17
charlie-tcabug 526422 for grub19:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 526422 in xserver-xorg-video-nouveau "Grub installer asks too many questions to the user" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52642219:17
tdncharlie-tca, but I can't find instructions on how to get around this.19:17
charlie-tcaYou just continue to the end of the install, then you reconfigure grub when it restarts19:17
tdncharlie-tca, ok.19:17
tdncharlie-tca, #dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc gives me: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: grub-pc is broken or not fully installed19:20
charlie-tcahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%20219:22
charlie-tcaI don't find that on the page at all?19:22
tdncharlie-tca, huh?19:30
charlie-tca<tdn> charlie-tca, #dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc gives me: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: grub-pc is broken or not fully installed19:31
charlie-tcaI did not find anywhere on the wiki to use this19:31
tdncharlie-tca, I thought you meant dpkg-reconfigure, when you said 20:17 < charlie-tca> You just continue to the end of the install, then you reconfigure grub when it restarts19:31
charlie-tcaI gave you a wiki page to look through that explains how to to it.19:32
tdncharlie-tca, so I have to reboot to a live cd?19:32
charlie-tcaDid the system restart?19:33
tdncharlie-tca, haven't tried yet19:34
charlie-tcaThen you are worried about nothing at this point, right?19:34
charlie-tcaZXz7qjXPr2q19:34
ubuntu_I believe that the next version of ubuntu is a LTS version... will this includes a 'xen' enabled kernel?19:40
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coz_ok guys..just spend about 8 hours with this.. installed lucid on two systems.. one with a single hard drive no partitions and one with 2 scsi drives  / dual boot with windows each operating system on it's own drive,,,however...all goes well on single drive system with no errors..on mulitple drive system.. grub2 update fails  regardless of options chosen21:24
ubuntu_I believe that the next version of ubuntu is a LTS version... will this includes a 'xen' enabled kernel?21:28
charlie-tcacoz_: The only options I have been able to get to work are selecting both sda and sda1, okay the warning, and it installs to the mbr, I think21:29
coz_charlie-tca,  no luck with that either at least on the scsi system21:29
coz_charlie-tca,  error stated     cannot find  `grub_puts`21:30
charlie-tcaI believe it21:30
charlie-tcaMine are PATA21:30
coz_only option would be to disable one scsi drive and install which is not an options for dual boot21:30
coz_charlie-tca,  that may make a difference21:30
coz_you mean SATA?21:31
charlie-tcano, parallel ATA, old system21:31
coz_oh21:31
coz_mm21:31
coz_interesting21:31
charlie-tcaI don't have a sata system to play with21:31
coz_got disconnected there21:32
kklimondaubuntu_: I believe that support for xen dom0 kernel was dropped after 8.04 because of the problems with supporting it.21:33
charlie-tcaCaught in that netsplit21:34
coz_charlie-tca, oh apparenlty because I didnt see the netsplit here21:34
charlie-tcaYeah, usually if you are in it, you don't see it21:34
kklimondafreenode still have too much netsplits for my taste :/21:35
charlie-tcathis one: * coz_ has quit (*.net *.split)21:35
coz_ah!!21:35
coz_:)21:35
charlie-tcaAt least they tell us that is what it is now21:35
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kklimondacharlie-tca: well - it has always been obvious to me when dozens people disconnected at the same time :)21:35
coz_well..just wanted to mention the updated grub2 issue that I have found...again this is after 8 hours of dealing with it  so  right now updated grub2 on dua boot  individual drives fails miserably21:36
* charlie-tca is slow learner on those things21:36
ubuntu_kklimonda, ok!21:39
knittlhi guys21:54
knittlwhat's the thing about thunderbird-locale-en-gb? i don't even have thunderbird installed …21:54
penguin42thing?21:59
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knittlpenguin42: ah yes22:51
knittlsorry, you didn't hilight me, so i didn't notice22:51
knittlapt-get tells me it is held back22:51
penguin42ah, I wouldn't worry about it22:52
knittlbut where does it come from?22:52
penguin42(I'm not quite sure how you ask apt WHY it wanted a package)22:52
knittlhm22:52
knittlok22:52
Nitsugaknittl, aptitude why package23:20
Nitsugapretty straightfoward isn't it?23:20
knittllanguage_support-translations-en23:21
knittlhm23:21
penguin42sounds like a generic language pack type of thing23:21
Nitsugaknittl, maybe thunderbird is going to replace evolution in ubuntu-desktop!23:21
knittlNitsuga: don't think so23:21
knittlwould be a lot more buzz23:21
knittland evolution is so tightly integrated23:22
Nitsugaknittl, yeah, the would need ahother 3 aphpas to get rid of it23:22
Nitsuga*alas23:22
knittlminimum23:22
Nitsuga*alphas23:22
knittl* alphas23:22
knittl^^23:22
Nitsugaohh my! (facepalm)23:22
* penguin42 assumes that package just pulls in all english translations23:23
knittlyeah, but it seems i'm the only one with the thunderbird stuff …23:23
penguin42it's good to feel special!23:24
knittl:P23:24
Nitsugaknittl, aptitude search '?depends(language-support-translations-en)' doesn't say anything about thunderbird23:24
Nitsugaopnlt OpenOffice23:24
* penguin42 can't find language-support-translations-en in his list of packages23:25
knittlit does here23:25
penguin42weird23:25
Nitsugamaybe i'm outdated23:25
knittli   thunderbird-locale-en-gb        - Thunderbird English language/region packag23:25
knittlhm, it's even installed23:25
knittloO23:25
Nitsugaknittl, maybe that's whey it appears there23:25
Nitsugatry uninstalling it23:26
knittlit wants to remove language-support-translations-en*23:26
Nitsugahopefully it will not uninstall language-support-translations-en and it will not unistall ubuntu-desktop which will not unistall the kernel :P23:26
Nitsugawell, bad luck23:27
Nitsugaknittl, which mirror re you using?23:27
knittlthe main one23:27
Nitsugamm me too23:27
knittlhm, could be related to gnome shell23:27
knittljust checking with aptitude23:27
Nitsugaknittl, just a question: It it painfully slow (40KB/s peak) for you?23:27
knittland it's still a PITA that apt-get and aptitude don't work well together23:28
knittlNitsuga: internet in the dorms is painfully slow these days23:28
knittlso i can't really say23:28
Nitsugaokay23:28
knittlno, i get 300 kb/s23:28
Nitsugabecause i found that when dounloading packages fron synaptic it goes at a peak of 40 KB/s, but when for the ISO it downloads at 300KB/s +23:29
penguin42Nitsuga: I suspect that's just a difference in servers23:29
Nitsugapenguin42, but both are downloading from release.ubuntu.com !23:30
knittlNitsuga: i guess they do traffic shaping23:30
penguin42Nitsuga: Hmmmmm - I wonder if you have a transparent proxy or something int he way?23:30
Nitsugapenguin42, just a home router23:30
penguin42Nitsuga: I mean at your ISP23:30
Nitsugapenguin42, probably not because my IP is accessible from outside23:31
NitsugaI can ssh to my computer and run a web server23:32
penguin42doesn't mean they aren't intercepting outbound port 8023:32
knittlcan i make aptitude work better with apt-get?23:32
knittleverytime i remove/purge packages with apt-get aptitude thinks they should be installed23:32
* Crashbit Saludos!23:33
Nitsugapenguin42, and 22, and 8080, and 2222, and 514131, and all the ports all the time23:34
Nitsuga*and all the ports I USE all the time23:34
Nitsugapenguin42, anyway if I had a transparent proxy why I can download 10 time faster just picking a different file?23:35
Nitsuga*times faster jus by picking23:35
Nitsuga*just23:35
Nitsuga(facepalm x2)23:35
penguin42Nitsuga: Because that file might be in the proxy so it doesn't need to go off to the server23:36
Nitsugapenguin42, If there is someone in the Argentina using Ubuntu, ¿Wouldn't be faster the daily updates than a Alpha AND x64 AND alternate ISO image?23:38
penguin42Nitsuga: I'm sure there are many, I guess you're right it's likely people would have the updates as well23:39
Nitsugawell, so it is a mystery23:39
BugsbaneCan anyone here install libboost1.38-dev on Lucid?23:43
BugsbaneI have it installed on one machine and it's in the repos but on a new machine it says no installation candidate...23:43
penguin42Bugsbane: It seems to be 1.40 and 1.41 on Lucid23:43
penguin42Bugsbane: Probably the right thing to do is just install libboost-dev which will pickup whatever is the latest23:46
Bugsbanepenguin42: cool. will try. apt-get build-dep koffice2 just errors because of it23:48
BugsbaneI expect the packaging will get updated at some stage though23:49
penguin42Bugsbane: I don't see koffice2 any more23:49
BugsbaneWhen you do apt-get build-dep koffice-kde4 it says its the new candidate23:49
penguin42Bugsbane: So it does - broken package23:50
BugsbaneWorth filing a bug on?23:50
penguin42I'd say so23:51
BugsbaneCool. Will do. I'm guessing I'd file on koffice-kde?23:51
Bugsbane...or koffice2?23:52
penguin42but is the problem koffice2 or the fact it still tries to use it?23:53
DrakesonIs it just me or Evolution cannot run in the background?23:53
BugsbaneI guess it's that koffice-kde4 has been replaced by koffice2 which has it's build deps outdated23:53
DrakesonWhereas empathy can23:54

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