/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/02/23/#ubuntu-manual.txt

humphreybcboo01:02
godbykI'm awake again.03:32
godbykGive me a few minutes and I'll get caught up on the logs.03:33
godbykhumphreybc: Keeping our fingers crossed the bot will wake up and do its thing soon? :)03:58
humphreybcyeah hopefully!03:58
humphreybci've been playing with my cellphone all day03:58
humphreybcthere are apps for china03:58
godbykhumphreybc: Yeah, I keep finding new apps for mine, too.03:59
godbykDid you see that Google released Google Earth for Android today?03:59
humphreybconly for 2.1 i think tho04:00
godbykyay, ClassBot!04:01
humphreybclol04:01
humphreybci really cannot be bothered doing all these sessions again04:01
humphreybcoh well, here goes04:01
humphreybchaha04:01
godbyklol.. I hear ya.04:01
godbykCan I just paste my logs from last time? ;-)04:01
humphreybcbeen up since 3am and i have a new toy to play with04:01
humphreybcoh well!04:01
godbykdid you get any sleep between the two groups of sessions?04:02
humphreybcnope04:02
humphreybci did stuff04:02
godbykhumphreybc: ouch!04:02
humphreybcset up my new phone with vodafone etc04:02
humphreybcso i've been awake for 14 hours now04:03
humphreybcgodbyk: link to the slides?04:03
godbykhumphreybc: http://kevin.godby.org/ubuntu-manual/talks/04:04
humphreybcam i doing good?04:19
godbyknot sure.. I've been reading backlogs. :-)04:20
humphreybchaha ok04:20
humphreybcgodbyk: nhandler wants my ODT theme ported to LaTeX-beamer ;)04:43
godbykhumphreybc: cool.  we can do that.04:43
godbykI didn't have time to make a beamer theme for my slides, but I meant to. :)04:44
humphreybcswell04:47
humphreybcyeah nhandler just asked04:47
humphreybci think he fancies that theme for classroom stuff04:47
godbykI'll be back in a bit; a friend is on the phone.04:51
humphreybcgroovy04:51
humphreybccan someone help me answer this please: How do we know if our computer has a ssh key? and how to find it?05:16
TakyojiApplications > Accessories > Passwords and Encryption Keys. "My Personal Keys" tab, and there should be a key for SSH05:18
Takyoji(although isn't it PGP that's used for Launchpad?)05:18
Takyojierm, well for signing, yes05:18
TakyojiIf they don't have a key generated, they can follow: https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/CreatingAnSSHKeyPair#Linux/Cygwin05:20
humphreybcneat! well stick around because josh and Ilya have some really cool presentations coming up05:25
humphreybcheh, lucky? i've been up since 3am (15 hours) because i had to run the first lot of sessions :P05:25
humphreybcwait05:25
humphreybcwrong window05:25
humphreybcd'oh05:25
TakyojiWell, works in either channel. :P05:26
humphreybctrue!05:26
humphreybcguys, dutchie's session is at 6am his time, if he doesn't wake up (sleeps through his alarm etc) could someone please take over from him?05:28
humphreybcperhaps that someone should read the log of his session he held earlier today to see what he was talking about05:28
humphreybcjust in case!05:28
humphreybci'm going out for dinner, any problems email me and I get it on my android05:29
humphreybc(haven't set up IRC ping to ping my android yet)05:29
dutchie:( too early05:46
godbykdutchie: I hear ya!05:46
vdquynh1About 15 mns to wait.05:47
godbykIf someone wants to be a guinea pig, run 'bzr pull', and then run the install-pkgs.sh script in the ubuntu-manual/pkgs directory.07:08
godbykLet me know what it says/does.07:08
godbykI've fixed it so it should detect which version of LaTeX you have installed.07:08
godbykIt'll also make sure you have the required packages to compile the manual.07:09
humphreybcim back never fear everyone :)07:19
godbykHey, humphreybc.. run the install-pkgs.sh script and see what blows up07:20
godbyk:)07:20
humphreybclol07:22
humphreybcokay07:22
humphreybcwhere is it?07:24
humphreybcam i just blind07:24
godbykin the pkgs/ dir07:24
humphreybcah07:24
humphreybci see now :)07:24
humphreybcrun in terminal or just run?07:25
godbykin a terminal07:25
godbykso you can see the output07:25
godbykare you running TL 2009 yet?07:25
humphreybcyea07:25
humphreybcso far so good07:25
godbykk07:26
humphreybci had most except some bengali things07:26
humphreybcentered in my password to install them..07:26
humphreybcand nothing's happening yet07:26
humphreybci'll try again07:27
godbykit's apt-get installing them (but hiding the output)07:27
humphreybcohh07:27
humphreybci see :P07:27
godbykrun tail -f install-pkgs.log to see what it's doing.07:27
humphreybc= impatient07:27
godbyk:)07:27
godbykI'm hoping Ilya will put the rest of these guys to sleep. Then I don't have to give my presentation again, right? :-)07:28
humphreybchahahaha07:30
humphreybcoh the script appeared to run fine07:30
godbykhumphreybc: awesome. thanks!07:30
godbykwe'll see how it works for others.07:30
humphreybcno probs, nice script!07:30
godbykSince I already had everything installed, it do much good to run it on my system. :)07:31
humphreybclol07:34
humphreybctell me some android hints and tips07:34
humphreybchow can i get IRC pings sent to my phone?07:34
IlyaHaykinsonhumphreybc: install IRC on your phone07:39
godbykhumphreybc: I have AndChat installed on my phone. It's an IRC client.07:40
godbykI haven't looked at other IRC clients yet, so it may suck in comparison.07:41
humphreybcyeah but i want to hook it up with the notifications thing in android07:41
humphreybci've got AndChat as well07:41
humphreybccan't work out how to connect to a channel. i'm in irc.freenode.net tho07:41
godbykhumphreybc: type /join #ubuntu-manual07:43
humphreybclol i knew it would be simple07:43
humphreybcand can it run in the background and notify you of stuff07:44
humphreybc?07:44
godbykit'll run in the background, yeah.07:44
godbykas far as notifications, I don't know. never tried anything.07:44
godbykHey, godbyk-android -- wake up!07:44
humphreybclol07:44
godbykyep, that made my phone go 'bleep-bloop'07:45
godbykand it shows as a notification.07:45
humphreybccan i make it auto join ubuntu-manual07:45
humphreybc?07:45
godbyknot sure.07:45
jazzis this the  48 hour course channel ?07:46
humphreybc:O07:47
godbykhumphreybc: ah, yeah. you can autojoin by editing the server details.07:47
humphreybcah ha07:47
godbykjazz: The courses are in #ubuntu-classroom07:47
humphreybcwhere do you edit those?07:47
godbykjazz: You can type questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat.07:47
godbykhumphreybc: press and hold on the server name (in the list), then hit edit07:48
jazzgodbyk,  how can i have two windows open to see both class and chat? (im new sorry)07:49
jazzx chat btw is whatim using07:49
godbykjazz: Are you using Lernid?  What program are you using to chat with?07:49
jazzx chat07:50
godbykYou should be able to join both channel and they'll each be in their own tab.07:50
godbykjazz: I would recommend using lernid for the classroom stuff, though. Makes it easier because you can follow along with the slides.07:50
godbykjazz: See the lernid installation instructions at the bottom of this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/48hours#preview07:51
humphreybc-androHi!07:51
jazzhow much did i miss so far?07:51
godbykjazz: Ilya's writing style session is just about to finish.07:51
godbykjazz: Next up, humphreybc Will cover social media stuff, and then my session on LaTeX will start after that.07:52
humphreybc-htcCool07:53
humphreybchumphreybc-htc: ping!07:53
godbyk-androidhumphreybc-htc: yeah07:53
humphreybcphone keeps disconnecting from wifi in my room07:54
godbyk-androidhumphreybc-htc: now your phone can talk to my phone07:54
jazzi sorry i missed out once again, i was on facebook and seen the post, BTW how do i update the software  center? i seen there was a update from the facebook post?07:54
godbykjazz: Are you trying to install lernid or do something else?07:54
humphreybcno tab autocompletion for andchat?07:54
jazzhumphreybc,  i've been trying all day to log in i geto bad wifi here too anything uincer 51% and im dead in the water07:54
humphreybc-htcCool07:55
humphreybc-htcHeh07:55
IlyaHaykinsonalright folks, good nite :) my sessions are done! :)07:55
humphreybc-htcNight!07:55
jazzgodbyk,  not atm,,,i need to wait till i get a decent connection, i seen a post about new updates to  the software center07:56
humphreybchumphreybc-htc: ping07:56
humphreybcyay!07:56
humphreybcgodbyk: do you find android slows down after a while when stuff has been running for a while?07:56
humphreybchehe, godbyk-android ping07:57
humphreybcgodbyk-android ping07:57
humphreybcgodbyk-android ping07:57
humphreybcgodbyk-android ping07:57
humphreybcgodbyk-android ping07:57
humphreybcphone going crazy?07:57
humphreybchow much bandwidth does it use to keep IRC running on android?07:58
godbykheh.. wasn't going crazy then because the irc client had the focus.  (so it didn't generate  notification.)08:01
humphreybcohhh08:01
godbykshouldn't require much bandwidth at all, I wouldn't think.08:01
godbykbut I don't really know. it's connected to my wireless connection and I never have to worry about it.08:02
humphreybcive only got 100mb a month on 3G08:02
humphreybcmight upgrade to 1GB if that's not enough08:02
godbykjazz: I'm sorry.  I haven't used the Software Center much yet.08:02
godbyk(I'm a bit of a command-line junky.)08:02
jazzgodbyk,  one day i learn all the commands lol08:03
godbykhumphreybc: Mine's 'unlimited' (whatever that means).08:03
godbykjazz: Heh.. you just have to pick them up one at a time as you need them. :-)08:03
humphreybcunlimited!!08:03
humphreybcwe dont even have that option over here08:03
jazzi wonder is  my name taken, i just read that if  it is and not used in 60 days then i can ask a staffer...08:04
humphreybcif we did it would cost hundreds08:04
humphreybc#ubuntu-irccouncil or something jazz08:04
jazzno one  in there08:05
humphreybcthat's not it08:05
humphreybcit's similar tho08:05
humphreybcask in #ubuntu-ops08:05
godbykindeed08:05
jazz ok brb08:06
humphreybcgodbyk not a huge turnout here08:07
godbykyay! :-)08:07
humphreybclol08:07
godbykI could be super evil and start pasting porn site urls into the classroom so it shows porn on the 4 people who are watching.08:08
jazzi got sent to freenode, i'll learn  never used irc b408:08
godbykor one of those flash sites that just makes loud noise.08:08
godbykhey, thorwil!08:08
godbykthorwil: did you figure out the title page / font / inkscape / pdf thing?08:08
jazzum... whats the freenode chat to talk to a staffer?08:10
thorwilgodbyk: the only way i get an export with the title with non-jagged outlines is converting it to paths in inkscape08:10
thorwilgodbyk: during my experiments, i had the same text in the same size coming out right, but once it is in place, i get the same shit again08:11
thorwilso there's a bug of the worst kind08:11
godbykweird.08:14
godbykhave you figured out what the actual problem is?08:14
thorwilgodbyk: no08:14
godbyklovely.08:14
godbykIt'd be nice if inkscape could export to PDF and still have things look nice.08:15
godbykI'd rather not have to open the SVG in AI to export it.  That's just lame.08:15
thorwilgodbyk: do you have acrobat reader around?08:15
godbykthorwil: yep08:15
jazzhey i got a question on inksacep, you can make  icons  with  it right?08:16
thorwilgodbyk: let me export a pdf with the problem, so you can have a look at it08:17
godbykthorwil: Sure.08:17
thorwiljazz: yes08:17
jazzcool - thats actially what i wanted the software center for  when yhe update question came about08:19
jazzi was going to try to learn how to make icons i want to make an internet connectivity with % rather than bars08:22
thorwilgodbyk: email coming your way08:30
godbyk'kay08:30
thorwiljazz: for creating icons with inkscape, you should set the grid spacing to 1 pixel. setting arrow key movement to 1 px is also helpful08:31
godbykthorwil: wow.. that does look bad in evince!08:31
godbyklet me look at it in acroread08:31
jazzis there an  pdf how to on making  icons and themes? i would love to try my hand at it  for the community08:32
godbykthorwil: Looks just as bad in acroread.08:33
godbykthorwil: The fonts aren't being embedded either, fwiw.08:33
* thorwil expresses his apologies to evince and even takes the punch in the face back08:34
thorwilgodbyk: inkscape can't embedd fonts, but it should have turned all text to paths on export08:34
godbykah, I see.08:35
godbykwell inkscape should learn to embed fonts.08:35
godbykand also not make our stuff look so nasty when it converts to pdf.08:35
godbyk(though I'm willing to concede that it may be a problem of pdf not supporting some required feature.. I haven't looked into it yet)08:35
thorwilwell, guess it's bug reporting time08:35
godbykyay08:36
ubuntujenkinsI may have the wrong end of the stick and It does mean that it isn't automated but could you not go file > print in inkscape and print with a cupspdf printer?08:37
thorwillol08:38
thorwilubuntujenkins: printing to pdf produces corect outlines08:39
thorwilbut is this text converted to paths, or relying on the font being embedded?08:39
thorwil25.6 kb ... that must mean text is not converted to paths08:40
thorwilsadly makes this useless08:40
ubuntujenkinsI have no clue I am afraid.I have no knolwedge of fonts08:40
ubuntujenkinsFair enough just a suggestion. :)08:41
thorwilit was a good one08:42
thorwilsearching for "pdf export" delivers 84 issues in the inkscape bug tracker (launchpad)08:47
godbykoh, bother.08:49
thorwilthis is a candidate for "effects me to": https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/43756708:51
manualbotLaunchpad bug 437567 in inkscape "PDF Save As dialog 'convert text to paths' option is confusing" [Medium,Confirmed]08:51
humphreybcgodbyk: you're up in about 5 :)08:52
godbykyep08:53
humphreybcthorwil: talk to su-v on irc.freenode.net08:57
humphreybche's an inkscape developer08:57
thorwilhumphreybc: it seems our problem is reported already. maybe twice, even08:57
godbykthorwil: any work being done on it?08:58
humphreybctrue, but if it's urgent i can ask him if we can fix it soon or find some workaround08:59
thorwilgodbyk: investigating. one of the reports is a bit complicated08:59
thorwilhumphreybc: we have a workaround08:59
thorwilwhich all doesn't mean asking him would hurt. maybe him, but not us :)09:00
thorwilhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/38825709:03
manualbotLaunchpad bug 388257 in inkscape "Inkscape 0.47Pre: PDF/PS Export 'Text to Paths' gives inconsistent results" [High,Fix released]09:03
humphreybcwhat's the workaround?09:05
humphreybcfix release?09:05
* humphreybc wow: "thanks, committed in 22567"09:06
humphreybcit'll be funny when UMP has 22,000 revisions09:07
* humphreybc wants to know why the back button on my HTC Magic is on the right side of the device, instead of the left09:08
thorwili just wonder which release that fix will be in?09:09
thorwil0.47pre4 in Karmic09:11
thorwilhumphreybc: the workaround is converting text to paths _before_ export. while this is ok for a single version, it would be horrible with translations09:13
humphreybc-htcThorwil aha okay09:19
thorwilsheesh09:20
humphreybc-cellBtw this is my android irc client :)09:21
jazzwhat is utc time and how does it translate to est? it's4:46 am09:36
thorwiljazz: UTC is identical to GMT. it's the zero time-zone09:39
ubuntujenkinsJazz est is 5 hours behind utc http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/est.html09:39
humphreybc-cellGodbyk, how do you actually close an apple on android? It seems hitting home just minimizes it09:44
godbykhumphreybc-cell: that's pretty much it, yeah.09:45
godbyksome apps let you exit them if you pull up the settings/options button.09:45
jazzthanks for the lionks on times guys..... bookedmarkd for later reading .:)09:45
godbykbut I think android auto-closes them if it needs to.09:46
humphreybc-cellaha ok. I don't want a tonne of background appear using all my memory. How can you tell how much battery in percentage you've got?09:47
humphreybc-cellHow many people are in the classroom? I'm considering calling it a day09:49
godbykonly two people asking questions, at least.09:52
ubuntujenkinsI am there not sure I count :)09:52
humphreybc-cellCould someone refer them to the logs for my earlier talk on lp? I'm knackered,19hours with no sleep!09:56
cjohnston|cellHey guys. Any issues?09:57
humphreybc-cellThank them for coming and tell them where the slides can be found too: )09:57
godbykSure.09:58
humphreybc-cellCjohnston: nope all went smoothly! Maybe godbyk has some suggestions for the bot?09:58
humphreybc-cellGodbyk, tab completion in andchat?09:58
godbykcjohnston|cell: Ooh, one suggestion.. Since lernid wants [SLIDE 0] to move to that slide, can the bot parse that and keep track of the current slide, then provide !prev and !next commands so I don't have to remember the slide number?09:59
humphreybc-cellI'm getting faster.at typing. Fat thumbs don't help!09:59
godbykhumphreybc-cell: yeah, type a couple chars, then press the search button.  if only one hit, it'll complete, otherwise give you a list.09:59
humphreybc-cellGodbyk cool, seems to only work with certain nicks10:02
jazzthat the end of 48 hours?10:02
cjohnston|cellgodbyk: I think that would probably be something to take up with lernid to have it just [slide].10:02
humphreybc-celljazz: yep! Its been a long haul but we made it. Did you learn something?10:03
godbykcjohnston|cell: Bah! You're just trying to get out of work! :)  Fair enough!10:03
cjohnston|cellLernid and the bot have absolutely nothing to do with each other, so I don't know that it would be something we are interested in10:03
cjohnston|cellI'm not the dev, so it won't cause me work. :-P10:04
jazzhumphreybc-cell,  yeah  i think, lol definititly going to read the  logs10:04
cjohnston|cellI will talk to the bot dev and get his opinion10:04
jazzcjohnston|cell,  hello10:05
cjohnston|cellHey ja10:05
cjohnston|celljazz:10:06
jazz utc and est dont mix lol  5 15 am  im spent . think ill move the puter to the bed and night stand next lesson10:06
humphreybc-celljazz: great! As long as its been useful :)10:06
humphreybc-cellAren't all lessons done now?10:06
cjohnston|cellI'm still trying to go to sleep. People just won't leave us alone.10:06
cjohnston|cellGonna go back to trying though.10:07
humphreybc-cellcjohnston|cell: us as in ubunti10:07
cjohnston|cellNite all10:07
cjohnston|cellNo10:07
cjohnston|cellWork10:07
humphreybc-cellAha10:07
humphreybc-cellNight!10:07
jazznight cjohnston|cell10:07
* cjohnston|cell needs sleep. 23.5 hours since I woke up10:08
cjohnston|cellLater10:08
jazzwell guys before the ambient day noise east up this wifi singanl....10:08
humphreybc-cellgodbyk: good free android games?10:08
jazzhow often does the classroom have events?10:09
godbykhumphreybc-cell: not sure yet.  I don't play games too often, so I haven't looked for them yet.10:09
humphreybc-celljazz: quite often. Python stuff this week10:10
humphreybc-cellgodbyk: fair buff!10:10
humphreybc-cellUgh10:10
jazz oooh i am learnign  python actually10:10
ubuntujenkinshumphreybc-cell is there any small jobs that need doing, I am waiting for ilya to split the open office section, I think he has been busy with 48 hours10:11
humphreybc-cellStill getting used to android text thing10:11
jazzwell teaching myself and began earlier to day so aint made much progress  yet10:11
humphreybc-cellubuntujenkins: twitter facebook need updating, wiki needs tidying, remove 48hours from wiki header and replace with quickshot10:13
jazzwhen is python sessions?10:14
humphreybc-cellStyle guide needs reorganizing and tech help needs more ground control documentation10:14
ubuntujenkinsok I will start on the wiki this afternoon. If you make me an admin I can do the facebook group I need to get a twitter account first.10:15
humphreybc-cell4hours folder in branch needs to be renamed to help10:15
ubuntujenkinsjazz https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom#Schedule10:15
jazzthanks a million everyone.10:16
humphreybc-cellI can admin you on facebook but no idea who is twitter admin10:16
ubuntujenkinsluke jennings I am in the group10:16
humphreybc-cellAre you in the facebook group? Real name?10:16
humphreybc-cellOk cool10:17
jazzi am in the facebook group10:17
humphreybc-cellJust take new screenshots of the manual and upload emb10:18
ubuntujenkinsfolder renamed10:18
ubuntujenkinsI will get as much as I can done10:18
humphreybc-cellYou'll find stuff to do. Bug triage!10:18
humphreybc-cellI'm going to bed but am playing with cell, ping me if you need10:19
ubuntujenkinscool thanks10:19
jazzhumphreybc-cell,  you still around or did ya go to bed yet?10:23
humphreybc-celljazz: to whats up?10:24
ubuntujenkinsI can try and help jazz10:24
humphreybc-cellYo *10:24
jazzsweet then get some rest humphreybc-cell  i thoughever one left..10:25
jazzi was just looking at the pages, i may be to mmuch of a newbie to actually help yet..10:25
ubuntujenkinshow long have you used ubuntu?10:26
humphreybcsorry phone lost wifi10:26
jazz 2 week b4 9/10 shipped10:26
humphreybcwhat are you interested in helping with?10:27
jazzwell i can try at translations english to spanish...10:27
humphreybcsure10:28
humphreybcthat would be useful :)10:28
ubuntujenkinsI have no clue on tranaslations I have to go to a lab but it would be useful jazz.10:29
humphreybcgodbyk: msn client for android?10:29
* humphreybc 206 facebook fans now, schwing!10:29
ubuntujenkinssweet, ping if you need me and I will look when I get back.10:30
jazzi am spanish, and at least being this new to linux i can still  try and help10:30
godbykhumphreybc: there's some chat program that begins with an F, but I hated it after I installed it.10:31
godbykIt was a bit too obnoxious.10:31
humphreybchmm10:31
jazzso, with that then how can i get started on translations?10:31
godbykhaven't found a replacement yet.10:31
humphreybcubuntujenkins: you're an admin on facebook now10:31
thorwilgodbyk, humphreybc: i've built the 0.47 inkscape release from source. exports the same svg to a pdf without any issues. no jagged outlines10:31
godbykthorwil: Awesome!10:32
godbykthorwil: Does it handle the transparency or gradients or whatever the other problem was?  (with the lynx's nose, for instance)10:32
humphreybcokay guys i'm going to do a cool facebook status update with some stats from the 48 hours thing, give me some cool or funny stats10:33
jazza newbie trying to help with a newbie manual? lol10:33
godbykhumphreybc: did you get a before and after count of team members via launchpad?10:34
humphreybcsort of, roughly10:34
humphreybcbefore was about 24810:34
humphreybcafter 27110:34
thorwilgodbyk: which file should i test with?10:34
godbykhumphreybc: looks like we gained 11 (looking at the 'member since' field in the list)10:36
humphreybcoh really?10:36
humphreybcbut some left too10:36
humphreybcjust older members10:37
humphreybcshould we call it 15?10:37
godbykthorwil: Try the Alpha-Title-letter.svg file10:37
humphreybcwe probably should have taken note of this properly :P10:37
godbyklook at the nose of the lynx.10:37
humphreybcbut i just wanted to do a silly facebook update :)10:37
godbykit gets mangled during the conversion.10:37
jazzhow do you leave a fb group? lol i have a group i havd no idea i joined10:37
humphreybcgodbyk do you get any stats on how much MB was downloaded from your server in slides?10:38
godbykHmm.. I can check.10:38
godbykMight take a day for the stuff to come through (since there were sessions after midnight).10:38
thorwilgodbyk: the result looks like having been taking from behind with a power drill10:39
humphreybc[The Ubuntu Manual] "would like to thank everyone for turning up the event! Some stats: 15 sessions by 4 teachers over 2 days taking up 14 hours, 11 new team members, 36 new facebook members, approx 60 different people in the classes in total and 19 people at any one time, 102MB of slides downloaded and 110 views on the Ground Control YouTube video. Not to mention the UMP project leader being up for 20 hours straight!"10:39
godbykthorwil: yeah, what's with that?10:40
humphreybc(I got 102MB by multiplying the total size of the slides (1.7) with the approx people who took part (60))10:40
godbykhumphreybc: I don't have stats for the 23rd yet.10:40
humphreybcit's very very approx :P10:40
godbykbut for the 22nd:10:40
godbyk145.88 MB downloaded.10:41
humphreybcoh wow10:41
humphreybcnice10:41
humphreybcmore than i thought10:41
humphreybcsessions on the 23rd had less people10:41
humphreybcso 190MB all up roughly?10:41
humphreybcwould that be a good guess?10:41
humphreybchaha10:41
godbykLooks like most of that was during my talk, since I had each slide as a big PNG file.10:41
humphreybcahh10:41
humphreybcwell that counts..10:41
thorwilgodbyk: that page is constructed quite a bit more complex than it would need to be10:41
jazzlast night i came in here, didnt realize the session were in the classroom,10:42
godbykHold on and I'll try to see how many times the individual PDFs were downloaded.10:42
humphreybci wonder if we can get stats on how many questions were answered10:42
godbykWell, that won't count for much since we didn't use them for the first sessions.10:42
humphreybchmm10:42
humphreybcestimate of how many questions we answered?10:42
thorwilgodbyk: would be a serious effort to get rid of all unnecessary transparency. especially as the lynx changes appearance on ungrouping it (wtf)10:42
thorwilgodbyk: so lets just forget about it10:43
humphreybc5 per session, x15, 75?10:43
jazzthese irc logs, thats every ubuntu  session held?10:44
thorwilvish clearly didn't think of translations when layering text with gradients10:44
humphreybclol10:45
godbykthorwil: right. was just curious about what the problem was of converting it to PDF.10:45
godbykso that if we need to, we can avoid that same issue with future title page designs.10:45
thorwilgodbyk: just blur (which needs to be rendered to bitmaps) and likely gradients with transparency. layering shapes like no tomorrow is also asking for trouble10:46
godbykthorwil: gotcha.10:47
vishthorwil: pfff.. translations ;p10:51
humphreybchttp://humphreybc.wordpress.com/2010/02/23/48-hours-a-success-i-think-so/10:57
jazz good night guys and thanks again10:57
humphreybcnight jazz10:58
humphreybcwe have so many people in our facebook team now11:05
humphreybcfacebook page*11:05
humphreybcnight all!11:09
godbykcan any of you compile one of the translations with the latest bzr revision?11:20
godbykpo4a-translate just keeps spinning for me.11:21
godbykah, nm.11:26
godbykI think the problem is that there's a latex bug in the source.11:26
komsasgodbyk: same problem for me ;/11:34
godbykkomsas: I fixed it.11:34
godbykSomeone forgot a closing brace.11:35
godbykI just pushed the fix.11:35
godbykShould work now.11:35
komsasgodbyk: you are right :)11:37
ubuntujenkinsgodbyk I don't want to get it wrong I can edit normal wiki pages but what do i click to edit "48 hours" out of the header on our wiki?13:44
ubuntujenkinsdon't worrk found it :) thanks13:45
ubuntujenkinsthorwil did you do the quickshot logo?16:20
thorwilubuntujenkins: no16:21
ubuntujenkinsdid ben do it?16:21
thorwilyes, i think16:21
thorwilubuntujenkins: why?16:21
ubuntujenkinsTrying to remove all but the camera for an icon on the wiki16:22
ubuntujenkinsnearly there now16:23
ubuntujenkinsany thing I can do to help?20:00
* ubuntujenkins is bored :)20:01
kklimondaso, I've actually decided to give a quickshot a try and it doesn't seem to work - do you need some help? :)20:05
ubuntujenkinsquickshot is in heavy delopment what happend when you used it?20:06
kklimondaI got to the point when I was supposed to select a language and neither could I do it (Combo Box was empty and greyed out) nor did anything happen when I clicked next20:08
ubuntujenkinsThats sounds about right, did you get the login screen when you clicked the login button?20:09
kklimondawhat login screen? gdm one? :)20:11
ubuntujenkinsyes the gdm one20:11
kklimondayes, I get stuck after I login as quickshot user20:11
ubuntujenkinsIt is relativity untested that is as far as we have got20:12
ubuntujenkinsTommyBrunn and Humphreybc are the people to ask what needs doing with quickshot. neither are on now try the mailing list quickshotdevs@lists.launchpad.net . Could you run "lshw -C display" and "xrandr" and place them in http://paste.ubuntu.com/ that would help us out.20:12
kklimondaso I guess if the login is as far as you got then this is expected: http://syntaxhighlighted.com/~kklimonda/stuck.png and the nicely done wiki page has mislead me? :)20:14
ubuntujenkinsThe wiki page has mislead you, you are seeing all we have done so far20:15
ubuntujenkinsdutchie do we have the language codes for the languages we are translating to?20:35
dutchielook in po/20:35
ubuntujenkinsthe file names aren't the exact language code. I have a feeling some heavy googling might be needed.20:37
dutchiethey are as far as LP is concerned20:39
ubuntujenkinsfair enough I am looking for the ones that would be set as $LANG20:40
ubuntujenkinsdutchie hwo do I tell which variation of italian, dutch, arabic, greek, and french we are translating to?21:09
dutchieit's normally actual French21:09
dutchiefor example, pt is portuguese from actual portugal, pt_BR is brazilian portuguese21:09
dutchieetc21:09
dutchieen_GB springs to mind too21:10
ubuntujenkinsThe french thing makes sense but what about the 13 different versions of arabic? Which one is the main version?21:11
dutchiedunno21:13
dutchieI only ever see "ar"21:13
dutchiethere must be a main one21:13
ubuntujenkinscool thanks arabic is the only hard one I am looking at which countries the translators come from.21:14
humphreybc-cellubuntujenkins: good work on wink and facebook. Did you find out who's running the twitter account?21:30
humphreybc-cellWiki *21:31
dutchiewe still don't know?21:31
ubuntujenkinsno I need to set up an account of my own I will check the mailing list I think its in there.21:31
ubuntujenkinshumphreybc-cell kklimonda was asking about quickshot and what help was needed21:32
humphreybc-cellYou probably know more than me. Point him at Tommy :)21:33
ubuntujenkinswalter set up the twitter account I shall drop him an e-mail.21:33
ubuntujenkinswhen are we aiming to complete it for?21:34
ubuntujenkins*quickshot21:34
ubuntujenkinshumphreybc-cell  are we aiming to complete quickshot by the lucid ui freeze 4th of march?21:44
humphreybc-cellMarch 1821:45
ubuntujenkinswhat do you have to do for your course as far as quickshot is concerned? I don't want to do to much an mean that you and tommy lose marks.21:46
ubuntujenkinsmy python knowledge is still shocking :)21:47
humphreybc-cellMine isn't for my course, only Tommy's21:47
ubuntujenkinscool hopefully tommy is implimenting my changing resolution work today. I might try and do some windows in glade as we need some to go with the changing resolution warnings.21:49
ubuntujenkinsone other question for you, what are we doing as far as languages for screen shots? one of our languages is arabic but there are 13 different versions of arabic and josh and i don't know which one we are translating to. will we except screnshots in all of them or not?21:52
* ubuntujenkins has fixed quickshots only bug so far22:38
ubuntujenkinsnight all22:38
TakyojiHad an error message when using groundcontrol. Report it (y/n)?22:50
Takyojihttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a368/takyoji/groundcontrol-error-2.png?t=126696540122:50

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