/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/02/23/#ubuntu-testing.txt

=== kermiac_ is now known as kermiac
=== kermiac is now known as kermiac_
yotuxHello I have a few questions04:05
persia!ask04:05
ubot4Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)04:05
yotuxSince Alpha 3 is going to be release should I try and test alpha 2 ?04:05
persiaDepends what you're testing.04:05
yotuxalso does this team test netbook remixes04:06
persiaThere's not much value to testing Alpha 2 images, but there is huge value in testing post-installed environments with Alpha 2 + updates.04:06
persiaThis is the central coordination point for all Ubuntu testing, including all images and flavours.  This does not mean that everyone here tets all flavours.04:07
yotuxok04:07
yotuxIs there a testing manual?04:07
persiaI don't know of one offhand, but there's some hints on the wiki.04:08
aramorning all!06:59
persiaara: There was a request about 3 hours ago asking if we had a testing manual?  Do we?  Should there be a link to it in the /topic?07:13
persiaOh, and Good morning :)07:13
arapersia, morning07:14
arapersia, yes, indeed, I'll change it. Although the release team haven't published any candidate ISOs yet07:14
persiaI was thinking just a pointer to overview docs that would be useful to new folk even when we weren't doing milestone testing.07:15
arapersia, looks nice, it seems that I cannot change the topic07:28
araI will as at #ubuntu-irc07:28
persiastgraber: Hey.  When you have a chance, we need a bit of help with channel coordination.07:38
* persia expects to wait 7-8 hours for a response07:38
arapersia, heno will be around in 2-3 hours :D07:43
persiaBut he doesn't have the +F flag, which seems to restrict some operations.07:45
persiaSo I expect he can sort the topic issue.  I'm less sure he can sort the channel operations in general.07:45
arapersia, alright07:51
arapersia, let's wait for stgraber, but I'll ask heno to change the topic when he's online07:52
persiaThat seems like the best plan to me.07:53
persiaWhat is the URL to the manual anyway?07:53
aratracker: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/07:55
aradocs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures07:55
aratestcases: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/07:56
persiaDo we have anything for non-ISO testing?07:56
arapersia, set of activities: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities07:57
persiahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ seems like a good home, but I'm guessing it might benefit from suggestions on stuff that can be done during less pressing periods.07:57
persiaThat's a *great* page!07:57
arapersia, maybe we should be moving that page to /Testing, rather than having a subpage07:58
arapersia, to make it easier for people to find it07:58
persiaOr at least put it in the top bar.08:00
persiaI'd probably drop "QA Team" frm the top bar, and add "Activities".08:00
thekorn...and add a link to this page to qa.ubuntu.com08:01
thekorngood morning, btw08:01
persiaYes.08:01
persiaLooking at "QA Team", I think we're getting good coverage in Bugsquad and Testing, but I'm less sure we're well coordinating the development of QA tools, automation, etc. cleanly.08:02
persia(yes, we use #ubuntu-quality for this, and lots of people are doing stellar work, but we're just not talking much)08:03
persiaSo I'm not convinced that it's best to highlight that team until we get better at it :)08:03
arapersia, OK :)08:29
aramvo, around?08:40
mvoyes08:40
aramvo, OK, I was just wondering why last run of http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing/ was 16th Feb08:41
aramvo, but I just saw that they are running today08:41
mvoara: its still running from a machine at my place that is not 24/7 on. I'm working on moving it to the DC currently, right now its running and will finish in ~4-5h08:42
aramvo, nice, thanks!08:43
mvoara: there were issues with the kvm installed in the DC, but that should be fixed now, so hopefully this weeks it can (finally!) be daily08:43
aramvo, \o/08:43
mvo:)08:44
phildiniHello. If I wanted an in-depth look at a particular part of lucid development, namely support for intel core i* processors and graphics, where could I look and possibly contribute?09:03
araphildini, hello09:33
araphildini, still around?09:33
phildiniara: yes, actually.09:45
araphildini, how do you want to contribute?09:45
phildiniwell, for starters I'd like to know where support for the i series is heading. if I can do something to help that particular aim, i'd be willing to do quite a lot, although I am far from a kernel hacker.09:46
davmor2Morning everybody10:03
davmor2how the alt's looking so far ara?10:16
aradavmor2, I just finished syncing and just started my first test10:17
aradavmor2, have you started with any?10:21
davmor2still syncing I started it latter I found I wasn't hitting the new images all the while10:22
aradavmor2, OK; I need you to confirm one thing10:22
davmor2go on10:22
aradavmor2, debian-installer screens look funny in KVM, I need to know if it happens in HW as well10:22
davmor2no probs10:23
davmor2yay at last10:49
aradavmor2, congrats!11:05
primes2hara: I saw that project, in fact I took my cue from that as I told fader some time ago.11:25
araprimes2h, have you tried to contact the leads?11:25
primes2hara: Hello, sorry :-)11:25
primes2hara: It seems a bit dead, but it's a lot different from mine11:26
davmor2ara: by screwy are you talking random text added to the yes and no tags?11:27
primes2hara: In fact they tested laptop given by Canonical11:27
primes2hand just Canonical employees could test them11:27
primes2hMoreover those tests are hard to do for a newbie or an ordinary user11:28
primes2hara: My intention is to keep the project as simple as possible11:30
araprimes2h, I am not saying that your project is equal, but, as the other seems dead, if you could contact the lead to confirm the death, you could link to your project from their page11:30
primes2hara: I told fader about that, I'm not sure if he said he was in that team. But I'll try to contact the lead (I'm unable to find him/her btw) :-(11:33
primes2hara: I'll try #ubuntu-laptop  IRC channel11:34
araprimes2h, ok, good idea11:35
primes2hara: Thank you for pointing me out this.11:35
primes2hpointing out to me this11:36
primes2hto this ;-)11:37
primes2hwhat a mess11:37
primes2h8-)11:37
davmor2pointing this out to me would of been better ;)11:38
primes2hpoint me out to this11:38
primes2hdavmor2: Thank you very much ;-)11:38
davmor2ara: did you get my message too?11:38
aradavmor2, oh, I missed it11:39
aradavmor2, yes, that's what I mean11:39
aradavmor2, ok, so you have as well11:39
aradavmor2, I will file it and you can confirm, ok?11:40
davmor2ara: np's11:40
davmor2add a screen shot as you're in kvm11:40
aradavmor2, I will :)11:41
davmor2it's harder on HW :)11:41
aradavmor2, bug 52639111:49
ubot4Launchpad bug 526391 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Debian Installer screen text is corrupted (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52639111:49
davmor2thanks ara confirmed11:52
aradavmor2, thanks!11:52
plarsslangasek: the armel desktop images don't need to be on iso tracker.  I think one of them was still building inadvertently, but the netbook ones are our target now12:57
stgraberara: you now have the same rights as Henrik13:12
arastgraber, thanks13:15
=== fader|away is now known as fader_
persiastgraber: How do you feel about adding the iRCC and freenode staff to the channel?13:28
stgraberwould make sense, I'll replicate what we have on -devel for these two teams13:29
persiaHold on.  Let me grab the wiki with recommended settings.13:30
davmor2fader_: morning dude iso's are working but faulty ;)13:31
persiastgraber: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/Coordination13:31
stgraberdone13:31
persiastgraber: Please also email ubuntu-irc@lists.ubuntu.com to let them know you did it.13:31
* DuCkNeT yawn...13:32
persiaThanks :)13:32
davmor2fader_: thought I'd get you used to being on testing again :)13:32
fader_davmor2: You know I try to avoid doing any real work dude13:32
fader_Plus I don't know what 'working but faulty' means... is this some British thing where you get to make contradictory statements and not get called on them? :P13:33
davmor2fader_: the omission of the word real would of made that sentence make a lot more sense13:33
DuCkNeTi'm kind of late there... is alpha 3 out ?13:34
davmor2fader_: there are faults on alternates d-i installer but they are only cosmetic mostly13:35
fader_davmor2: So installs are working today then? :)13:35
davmor2I have a system installed13:36
jussi01stgraber: thanks for the mail :)13:48
stgraberjussi01: np14:15
davmor2cr3: any desktops with built in nvidia cards?14:41
persiaThey do exist.14:43
davmor2persia: I know that ;) I meant in the lab14:44
persiaOh.14:45
charlie-tcaGood Morning, Good Evening14:48
davmor2morning charlie-tca14:48
charlie-tcaxubuntu alternate 64 installation in VBox, most of the prompts have extra text in them15:30
charlie-tcaLooks like code bleeding over15:31
davmor2charlie-tca: yeap they do fullstop.15:31
davmor2charlie-tca: you should also get ask loads for grub15:31
charlie-tcagreat! Thanks15:31
davmor2charlie-tca: bug 526391 and bug 52642215:32
ubot4Launchpad bug 526391 in cdebconf (Ubuntu) "Debian Installer screen text is corrupted (affects: 1)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52639115:32
ubot4Launchpad bug 526422 in grub-installer (Ubuntu) "Grub installer asks too many questions to the user (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52642215:32
charlie-tcaI see. I am behind or slow, huh?15:48
davmor2charlie-tca: no just a different timezone we won't hold it against you ;)15:56
charlie-tcaOh, good ;-)15:56
arahey davmor2, I have been out a bit, how are things?16:24
araare we smelling a respin?16:24
davmor2ara: probably I'm slowly chugging through the things I signed up to do on 64bit16:25
davmor2stgraber: you about?18:57
davmor2stgraber: when you get this can you have a quick look at bug 526616 the ltsp client grabs the image no issues but as soon as the ubuntu logo plymouth (I'm guessing) screen appears it just seems to stop doing anything.18:59
ubot4Launchpad bug 526616 in ltsp (Ubuntu) "Ltsp lock up during plymouth splash (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52661618:59
slangasekplars: the one that was posted to the tracker was entirely a misclick, was supposed to be i386 I was posting :)19:00
plarsslangasek: np, I had thought there wouldn't be an image, so it should have been a non-issue.  Just hoping to see the netbook ones soon :)19:01
plarswouldn't be a desktop image that is19:01
stgraberdavmor2: that's weird, my thin client is booting just fine here ... (updated the chroot today)19:01
stgraberdavmor2: can you look at your syslog on the server for any nbd error19:01
davmor2stgraber: I can't see I've added syslog to the bug  there's a few bits that look off but I'm not sure.19:06
davmor2stgraber: it seems to be fine up to the point of the ubuntu logo appearing, in fact I'd say it was faster than normal.19:07
davmor2stgraber: this is 64 bit too I can try a 32 bit one at some point when I get chance19:07
slangasekplars: FWIW, the armel netbook images are being spun now, now that gtk+2.0 is installable again on armel19:10
plarsslangasek: I assumed so, good to hear confirmation. Thanks :)19:11
stgraberdavmor2: syslog looks good, I'll be doing a test here19:32
davmor2stgraber: It might just be a 64bit quirk like I say as soon as I can I'll try a 32bit on the same box19:33
stgraberdavmor2: I'm downloading the 32bit one. I have a libvirt cluster to test here anyway ;)19:35
stgraberI just deployed two quadcore boxes with 8GB of RAM in my dev network at Revolution Linux (and was looking for something to test it)19:35
davmor2haha glad I could help stgraber  :)19:36
davmor2Right I'm off night all20:01
hggdhhas anyone suceeded on installing current daily for server (either 32 or 64)?20:35
fader_hggdh: We have had some successful installs in the lab20:37
fader_http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current20:38
hggdhfader_: I tried to install both 64 and 32, both hang after booting, on kvm and vBox20:38
fader_hggdh: Hmm, may be a virtualization issue... let me zsync one and give it a shot here20:43
* fader_ just got an SSD in the mail and can't decide whether to throw karmic or lucid on it.20:44
fader_Decisions, decisions.20:44
hggdhand I am disabling all the graphical thingies to see where it is blowing20:44
hggdhfader_: if in doubt, send me the SSD and I will take care of it ;-)20:44
fader_hggdh: Hah!  Hands off :P20:44
hggdhheh20:44
fader_hggdh: If it's a server install you shouldn't be getting any graphics20:44
fader_X isn't even installed by default on server20:45
hggdhthere is the pseudo-graphical thingie at the boot -- usplash?20:46
fader_Hmm, I hadn't seen that in server either, IIRC.  Though it's been a while since I've done a server install manually20:47
fader_Unfortunately I didn't have server images zsync'd already so it may be a while before I can confirm here :/20:48
hggdhfader_: np, and thank you20:48
fader_hggdh: No worries.  Though wait and thank me after I manage to get an install going, as at this rate it's looking like it will be tomorrow before my zsync is done :'(20:49
hggdhheh. Mine has been sort of slow also... and the bloody installs failing did not help much in terms of time spent20:49
hggdhfader_: specifically, there is bug 524434 that *might* be real20:50
ubot4Launchpad bug 524434 in ubuntu "Lucid Alpha 2 server iso install fails at bootloader in KVM (affects: 2)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52443420:50
stgraberUbuntu Alternate i386 with LTSP installed, testing a thin client now20:52
slangasekplars: first livefs build finished in 1h45, so candidate ISOs should be up for testing in about 1h3021:10
slangasekGrueMaster: ^^21:10
charlie-tcaexit21:10
GrueMasterI see it, thanks.21:10
sbeattiehggdh: I'll give a server image a go on live hardware, but one of things I hit in the past was the server install not being switched to tty1, so it had the remnants of some scary boot errors, but if you did alt-f1, you got to a login and it turned out the install was working fine.21:11
hggdhsbeattie: sounds like it -- per chance, I had just tried it (after, of course, finding out *how* to send the alt-f1)21:12
hggdhwll try 32 on kvm, then I will do 64 on kvm again21:13
sbeattieheh, yeah, that's not obvious in vbox.21:13
hggdhindeed :-(21:13
* sbeattie is burning server 32 now.21:13
sbeattiehggdh: do you get bits of corruption during the install/cd verification?21:26
hggdhsbeattie: you mean like curses gone wild?21:26
hggdhI do -- sometimes, not all time21:27
sbeattiekind of wild, like some of the strings aren't null terminated.21:27
hggdhyes21:27
sbeattieokay, did you file a bug about it yet?21:28
sbeattieah, yeah, bug 52639121:29
ubot4Launchpad bug 526391 in newt (Debian) (and 2 other projects) "Debian Installer screen text is corrupted (affects: 2)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52639121:29
hggdhyes. So one more thing to test tomorrow21:30
charlie-tcaI just hit bug 505197 on xubuntu desktop manual install21:48
ubot4Launchpad bug 505197 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "custom partitioning give the error (affects: 7) (dups: 2)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50519721:48
hggdhok, I confess I do not know. How do I send a Ctrl-Alt-F1 to a kvm guest?22:16
=== fader_ is now known as fader|away
slangasekplars, GrueMaster: armel netbook up22:34
GrueMasterGot it, thanks.22:34
plarsslangasek: thanks!22:34
slangasekboo, my estimate was off by 5 minutes, should get better at predicting ISO builds22:35
plarsdisgraceful!22:36
plars:)22:36

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!