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| gunavara | hi guys is ubuntustudio a distro ? | 13:54 |
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| gunavara | i am downloading it atm | 13:54 |
| damnit123 | heeyy!! | 18:03 |
| damnit123 | if some one wouldnt mind helping me, I am trying to get my my terratec phase 24 to work with ubuntu 9.10 *upgraded* from 8.x but i get the following bs.. At first I connect the card to the Firewire card to the phase 24 and it find its ok.. if I do: # ffado-test ListDevices .. when I do: # ffado-test Discover its finds the card but then has a bundle of red warnings | 18:05 |
| damnit123 | after that the card goes zombiefied | 18:05 |
| damnit123 | the fw card that is | 18:05 |
| damnit123 | and cant find the phase24 again untill reboot.. the firewire card is a VIA based one 6280 or something .. I believe it to be supported as well the phase 24 by ffado.. which brings me to the major anoyance | 18:07 |
| damnit123 | the kernel shiped is 2.6.31 @£$£% when to recompile jack / ffado 2 rc2 you need > 2.6.31 | 18:08 |
| damnit123 | is there a solution to this?? | 18:09 |
| damnit123 | surely theres just some package upgrade to ustudio / karmic ??? | 18:11 |
| damnit123 | which version of ffado did you ship 9.1 with as well just as a mater of curiousity | 18:12 |
| damnit123 | and just something else that really pved me off, please dont make the installer do anything regarding m$ bullshit in future breaking the offline installer in 9.10 is no way worth anything that m$ have got to offer especially not over there fonts ;( | 18:15 |
| damnit123 | I propose that some one creates a dialog to ask if they want to install un-supported mS-tt-fonts and prehaps w32/64 codecs at the end of the installation AFTER grub install, where the user can agree to break and violate various laws ;) | 18:20 |
| damnit123 | laws/licesencs | 18:21 |
| damnit123 | hm I seem to be banned from #ubuntu | 18:26 |
| damnit123 | damn it why are the devs letting cracks apear on the seams .. how can something be "supported" but shiped in a non working condition wtf?? .. ever since beta versions of ffado the phase 24 was supposed to be supported let alone a second RC | 18:28 |
| damnit123 | please ..any one help!!! ... or are you telling me your just screwed if youre offline with no way to realistically recompile the whole sound system for iee1394 devices??? | 18:34 |
| damnit123 | 3$"!£~$£~$%$&~%?@*($%&I:JR~ | 18:34 |
| chiiiiiz | Hi | 19:12 |
| chiiiiiz | How can I have alsa-pcm in jack? | 19:12 |
| damnit123 | hmm.. i think you need to enable HW monitor or one of thoses settings | 19:12 |
| chiiiiiz | I want to listen to music with my M-Audio 1010LT soundcard, and I have read about connecting alsa-pcm in jack... but I do not have any alsa-pcm in or outputs | 19:13 |
| chiiiiiz | hi damnit123 | 19:13 |
| damnit123 | they apear when you enable the HW monitor or the other setting thats there with it.. in qjaclctl | 19:13 |
| chiiiiiz | I have everything in french... so I do not see any hw monitor... | 19:20 |
| damnit123 | if you look at the dialog the left hand side has tick boxs | 19:22 |
| damnit123 | its the 5th or 7th one | 19:22 |
| damnit123 | english translation: http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/q/qjackctl-302549-1257497328.jpeg | 19:23 |
| chiiiiiz | damnit123: thanks for the link, but I still do not see any alsa-pcm... | 19:50 |
| damnit123 | did you restart jackd after selecting the either of the options? | 19:54 |
| damnit123 | I doubt its hw meter.. all I know is one of thoses settings will give you the alsa_pcms in jacks connections | 19:55 |
| chiiiiiz | yes, I did... I even restarted the whole PC... | 19:56 |
| damnit123 | hmm .. not too sure then.. i suppose it could be "hw Meter" that does it then .. which is the 8th one .. | 19:56 |
| chiiiiiz | It is "Monotor"... I have now 10 monitors in alsa-pcm... | 19:58 |
| damnit123 | fjear | 19:58 |
| damnit123 | ;) | 19:58 |
| chiiiiiz | I guess, since my speakers are connected to output 1&2 that I must connect monitors 1& 2 in alsa-pcm to these output 1&2... or??? | 19:59 |
| damnit123 | i gues that is right.. left and right channels go out of the window.. | 20:02 |
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| cellofellow | I've got a problem. Trying to install Studio on a laptop that has no internet at the moment. It keeps stalling while trying to configure tt-mscorefonts-installer, which keeps failing cause it's offline. I can't get online with it right now, how do I tell it to give up on the microsoft fonts already? | 21:57 |
| holstein | thats a good one cellofellow | 21:58 |
| holstein | i remember seeing that error once | 21:58 |
| holstein | and it was a bad disc i was trying to install from | 21:58 |
| holstein | i think it was AVlinux | 21:58 |
| holstein | or 64studio | 21:58 |
| holstein | something with a DVD size installer disc | 21:58 |
| cellofellow | it's from a USB | 21:59 |
| holstein | and i had that, and other errors | 21:59 |
| holstein | hmmm | 21:59 |
| cellofellow | so, not likely to be media issues | 21:59 |
| holstein | still, the installer should work | 21:59 |
| holstein | without internet | 21:59 |
| holstein | all the necesarry packages should be on the disc | 21:59 |
| holstein | necessary* | 22:00 |
| cellofellow | ttf-mscorefonts-installer doesn't actually have the data, it just downloads it during the debconf stuff. | 22:00 |
| holstein | i got nothin :) | 22:01 |
| cellofellow | well, I'm gonna go find a network connection I guess | 22:01 |
| holstein | i dont know how to bypass that | 22:01 |
| holstein | and i just install vanilla and upgrade | 22:01 |
| cellofellow | ah, well | 22:01 |
| holstein | good luck | 22:01 |
| holstein | maybe a local #ubuntu-channel ? | 22:02 |
| meganerd | what version are you trying to install? the microsoft font pack is not part of the default install AFAIK | 22:03 |
| tucemiux | holstein, have you any experience with jack? | 22:25 |
| holstein | hey tucemiux | 22:31 |
| holstein | i have some experience | 22:31 |
| holstein | i use it with ardour and my presonus firepod mostly | 22:32 |
| holstein | OH i use jack on OSX some too | 22:32 |
| tucemiux | holstein, i was trying to figure out how to make really acid sounds | 22:32 |
| holstein | you mean like the software acid? | 22:33 |
| tucemiux | holstein, some of the sounds you hear on techno songs, like just one or two notes | 22:33 |
| holstein | OK | 22:33 |
| tucemiux | i've never heard of software acid | 22:33 |
| holstein | good for you :) | 22:33 |
| holstein | have you been to #opensourcemusicians | 22:33 |
| tucemiux | but i know i can take the virtual keyboard and pass it to zynaddsubfx through jack but which settings would allow me to get the desired effects? | 22:34 |
| holstein | theres some guys there that do awesome electronic music | 22:34 |
| holstein | tucemiux: i use rakarrack | 22:34 |
| holstein | for effects | 22:34 |
| tucemiux | holstein, you play guitar? | 22:34 |
| holstein | i play bass | 22:34 |
| holstein | acoustic bass | 22:34 |
| holstein | proffesionally | 22:34 |
| tucemiux | oh dawwnnn.... | 22:34 |
| tucemiux | do you have a myspace page? | 22:34 |
| holstein | but i play all kinds of instruments here at the house :) | 22:34 |
| holstein | yup | 22:34 |
| tucemiux | your band ever comes to new york? | 22:35 |
| holstein | im playing up there in may | 22:35 |
| holstein | http://www.myspace.com/mikeholstein | 22:35 |
| tucemiux | ok well if you jot it down in your myspace profile ill put it in my calendar | 22:35 |
| tucemiux | youre all the way in carolina? dawnnn LoL you know what place youre going to be jammin in? | 22:36 |
| * holstein looking | 22:36 | |
| holstein | its called katana i think | 22:37 |
| tucemiux | never heard of it, must be in the village somewhere | 22:37 |
| holstein | kitano | 22:38 |
| holstein | http://www.kitano.com/ | 22:38 |
| holstein | may 13th | 22:38 |
| tucemiux | that's like a luxury hotel??? | 22:38 |
| holstein | http://www.callthatjazz.com/cotangent.html | 22:39 |
| holstein | yeah, its a little snooty in there | 22:39 |
| holstein | but its pretty cool | 22:39 |
| holstein | nice piano | 22:39 |
| tucemiux | yes and i bet it's by invitation, VIP only | 22:40 |
| holstein | hmm | 22:40 |
| holstein | i dont think so | 22:40 |
| holstein | the club part is more inviting | 22:40 |
| holstein | the jazz club part | 22:40 |
| tucemiux | heck, it's got a comment by maria sharapova | 22:40 |
| holstein | lol | 22:40 |
| holstein | you never know whos gonna be at the gig in NYC | 22:41 |
| tucemiux | your band must be one of the bands that can actually play, youve got these very popular bands that on MSG and sound nothing like the recording | 22:41 |
| holstein | yeah, its a fun band | 22:41 |
| holstein | great players from up there | 22:42 |
| tucemiux | i meant to say, there's some bands that play live and they're quite famous and sound nothing like the CD, what a disappointment | 22:42 |
| holstein | the piano player lives down here too | 22:42 |
| holstein | he use to be up there | 22:42 |
| holstein | and put the band together | 22:42 |
| holstein | the bass player got too busy | 22:42 |
| holstein | so i got to take it on | 22:42 |
| tucemiux | yeah finding real actual performing artists is one thing, ones that can actually perform live, can show up on time without being drunk or high | 22:43 |
| holstein | oh yeah | 22:43 |
| holstein | you go to the 55bar? | 22:43 |
| holstein | i like that venue | 22:43 |
| holstein | down in the village | 22:43 |
| holstein | more my style really | 22:44 |
| holstein | not so upiddy | 22:44 |
| tucemiux | i'm completely out of the bar scene, havent gone out since last year's, ill probably wont go out until i either lose 20 pounds or finish my wine collection, i only have 3 more bottles to go | 22:44 |
| tucemiux | i meant to say i havent gone out since last new year's LoL | 22:44 |
| holstein | w0w | 22:45 |
| holstein | workin through a wine collection | 22:45 |
| holstein | thats sounds like fun | 22:45 |
| holstein | im not a big wine drinker | 22:45 |
| holstein | i have beer from time to time | 22:45 |
| tucemiux | yes but it's really hard finding a red knot shiraz bottle from australia, i can't find that thing anywhere | 22:45 |
| holstein | nice | 22:46 |
| holstein | probably more likely to find that kind of thing up there though | 22:46 |
| tucemiux | and it's really cheap too, like $9 a bottle but I cant find it anywhere, I had one bottle of it and it really hit the spot | 22:46 |
| tucemiux | ok im going to check out #opensourcemusicians , hopefully i can find a jedi master | 22:47 |
| holstein | i had a cheap austalian wine | 22:47 |
| holstein | a while back | 22:47 |
| holstein | it was great | 22:47 |
| tucemiux | it's good for your health | 22:47 |
| holstein | quite a step up from all the others in that price range | 22:47 |
| holstein | so tucemiux | 22:51 |
| holstein | you could route the Vkeyboard over to zyn | 22:52 |
| holstein | and use something like jackrack | 22:52 |
| holstein | or something to add effects to the path | 22:52 |
| tucemiux | i tried that | 22:52 |
| holstein | oh yeah | 22:52 |
| holstein | ? | 22:52 |
| holstein | no love? | 22:52 |
| tucemiux | the question is how do i achieve the sounds that I want to create? | 22:52 |
| holstein | OH | 22:52 |
| holstein | not getting the sounds | 22:52 |
| holstein | gotcha | 22:52 |
| tucemiux | no, it works | 22:52 |
| tucemiux | i hear sound | 22:53 |
| holstein | yeah, not the sounds you want | 22:53 |
| tucemiux | but i mean how do i make the sound come out really acidddy?? what effect should I choose? | 22:53 |
| holstein | do you have a track? | 22:54 |
| tucemiux | i thought holstein was just a nick LoL | 22:54 |
| holstein | maybe on youtube or somewhere | 22:54 |
| holstein | that your trying to emulate? | 22:54 |
| tucemiux | no | 22:54 |
| holstein | hmmm | 22:54 |
| holstein | i guess youve tried all the usual suspects | 22:54 |
| holstein | distortion | 22:54 |
| holstein | and flangers | 22:54 |
| holstein | chorus | 22:54 |
| holstein | all that kind of thing | 22:55 |
| tucemiux | i tried a few yes but i didnt notice anything, let me try it again, hold oh, brb | 22:55 |
| tucemiux | holstein, how do i make the connections? I have Jack rack running and zynaddsubfx | 22:58 |
| holstein | how are you running a Vkeyboard? | 22:59 |
| holstein | you using the one in zyn? | 22:59 |
| tucemiux | no, ill make it easy and just zyn | 22:59 |
| holstein | either way | 22:59 |
| holstein | just an additional routing step if you dont use the one in zyn | 22:59 |
| holstein | the way i would do it | 22:59 |
| holstein | your looking at the qjackctl panel right? | 23:00 |
| holstein | http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net/qjackctl-ss1.html | 23:00 |
| holstein | we can use that i think | 23:00 |
| tucemiux | nope | 23:00 |
| tucemiux | i want to connec them first | 23:01 |
| holstein | so we know what we are talking about | 23:01 |
| holstein | you see the main control window | 23:01 |
| holstein | the very top pic on that site | 23:01 |
| tucemiux | whew that link you sent me is really something | 23:02 |
| holstein | you click on the connections panel | 23:02 |
| holstein | just that button that says 'connect' should get you there | 23:02 |
| holstein | then you should see... | 23:02 |
| tucemiux | on the jack panel you mean? | 23:02 |
| tucemiux | yes | 23:02 |
| tucemiux | i clicked on 'connect' | 23:02 |
| holstein | something like pic 9 | 23:02 |
| holstein | 9th one down | 23:03 |
| tucemiux | now im trying to figure out the connections | 23:03 |
| holstein | Audio (JACK) connections window | 23:03 |
| holstein | or the midi one | 23:03 |
| holstein | those are tabs in the connections panel | 23:03 |
| holstein | midi and audio | 23:03 |
| tucemiux | yes, I have Audio, Midi, and Alsa | 23:03 |
| holstein | you shouldnt need to do any midi or alsa routing | 23:04 |
| holstein | if your using the zyn VkeyB | 23:04 |
| tucemiux | Is the connection supposed to look like this: ZynAddSubFX -> Jack Rack ->system | 23:04 |
| holstein | thats probaly right | 23:04 |
| tucemiux | let me try it | 23:04 |
| holstein | yeah | 23:04 |
| holstein | and you pick from the left | 23:05 |
| holstein | and connect to the right | 23:05 |
| holstein | LIKE | 23:05 |
| holstein | system on the right | 23:05 |
| tucemiux | so far so good, we have sound | 23:05 |
| holstein | or someting on the right | 23:05 |
| tucemiux | now let me try adding an effect from jack rack and see what happens | 23:05 |
| holstein | will be the main OUT | 23:05 |
| holstein | you route whatever effect in jackrack out to the main out | 23:06 |
| holstein | then unhook zyn from the mains | 23:06 |
| tucemiux | Im using headphones on my laptop, I just made the connections Zyn -> Jack Rack -> system, I have sound so all is good | 23:06 |
| holstein | and plug it into the effect | 23:06 |
| holstein | SWEET | 23:06 |
| holstein | :) | 23:06 |
| holstein | jack is really awesome once you get into how it works | 23:06 |
| tucemiux | now let me choose an effect in JAck RAck and lets see what the sound is like | 23:07 |
| holstein | its more like an actual patchbay | 23:07 |
| tucemiux | holstein, this is what im talking about, now which effect should I use?? LoL there's tons of them | 23:07 |
| holstein | well | 23:08 |
| holstein | that all depends | 23:08 |
| holstein | if your wanting 'acid' | 23:08 |
| holstein | i would say something swirly | 23:08 |
| holstein | like a flanger | 23:08 |
| tucemiux | i wonder if there's a guide out there | 23:08 |
| holstein | or something | 23:08 |
| holstein | there might be | 23:09 |
| holstein | on the sites for the plugins | 23:09 |
| tucemiux | holstein, im talking about the nice sounds you hear on pop or tech no songs, like on alice dj | 23:09 |
| holstein | but, experimenting is the way to go | 23:09 |
| holstein | im sure you'll find something in there | 23:09 |
| tucemiux | ok ill experiment, i'll get a sound i really like some day, i'll also ask in #opensourcemusicians but at least you got me halfway | 23:10 |
| holstein | those guys at #OSM's get some awesome sounds using this stuff | 23:10 |
| holstein | :) | 23:10 |
| tucemiux | ok im outie, i'll be back later in #opensourcemusicians thanks for the 411 | 23:11 |
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