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gunavarahi guys is ubuntustudio a distro ?13:54
gunavarai am downloading it atm13:54
damnit123heeyy!!18:03
damnit123if some one wouldnt mind helping me, I am trying to get my my terratec phase 24 to work with ubuntu 9.10 *upgraded* from 8.x but i get the following bs.. At first I connect the card to the Firewire card to the phase 24 and it find its ok.. if I do: # ffado-test ListDevices .. when I do: # ffado-test Discover  its finds the card but then has a bundle of red warnings18:05
damnit123after that the card goes zombiefied18:05
damnit123the fw card that is18:05
damnit123and cant find the phase24 again untill reboot.. the firewire card is a VIA based one 6280 or something  .. I believe it to be supported as well the phase 24 by ffado.. which brings me to the major anoyance18:07
damnit123the kernel shiped is 2.6.31 @£$£% when to recompile jack / ffado 2 rc2 you need > 2.6.3118:08
damnit123is there a solution to this??18:09
damnit123surely theres just some package upgrade to ustudio / karmic ???18:11
damnit123which version of ffado did you ship 9.1 with as well just as a mater of curiousity18:12
damnit123and just something else that really pved me off, please dont make the installer  do anything regarding m$ bullshit in future breaking the offline installer in 9.10 is no way worth anything that m$ have got to offer especially not over there fonts ;(18:15
damnit123I propose that some one creates a dialog to ask if they want to install un-supported mS-tt-fonts and prehaps w32/64 codecs at the end of the installation AFTER grub install, where the user can agree to break and violate various laws ;)18:20
damnit123laws/licesencs18:21
damnit123hm I seem to be banned from #ubuntu18:26
damnit123damn it why are the devs letting cracks apear on the seams .. how can something be "supported" but shiped in a non working condition wtf?? ..  ever since beta versions of ffado the phase 24 was supposed to be supported let alone a second RC18:28
damnit123please ..any one help!!! ... or are you telling me your just screwed if youre offline with no way to realistically recompile the whole sound system for iee1394 devices???18:34
damnit1233$"!£~$£~$%$&~%?@*($%&I:JR~18:34
chiiiiizHi19:12
chiiiiizHow can I have alsa-pcm in jack?19:12
damnit123hmm.. i think you need to enable HW monitor or one of thoses settings19:12
chiiiiizI want to listen to music with my M-Audio 1010LT soundcard, and I have read about connecting alsa-pcm in jack... but I do not have any alsa-pcm in or outputs19:13
chiiiiizhi damnit12319:13
damnit123they apear when you enable the HW monitor or the other setting thats there with it.. in qjaclctl19:13
chiiiiizI have everything in french... so I do not see any hw monitor...19:20
damnit123if you look at the dialog the left hand side has tick boxs19:22
damnit123its the 5th or 7th one19:22
damnit123english translation: http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/q/qjackctl-302549-1257497328.jpeg19:23
chiiiiizdamnit123: thanks for the link, but I still do not see any alsa-pcm...19:50
damnit123did you restart jackd after selecting the either of the options?19:54
damnit123I doubt its hw meter.. all I know is one of thoses settings will give you the alsa_pcms in jacks connections19:55
chiiiiizyes, I did... I even restarted the whole PC...19:56
damnit123hmm .. not too sure then.. i suppose it could be "hw Meter" that does it then .. which is the 8th one ..19:56
chiiiiizIt is "Monotor"... I have now 10 monitors in alsa-pcm...19:58
damnit123fjear19:58
damnit123;)19:58
chiiiiizI guess, since my speakers are connected to output 1&2 that I must connect monitors 1& 2 in alsa-pcm to these output 1&2... or???19:59
damnit123i gues that is right.. left and right channels go out of the window..20:02
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cellofellowI've got a problem. Trying to install Studio on a laptop that has no internet at the moment. It keeps stalling while trying to configure tt-mscorefonts-installer, which keeps failing cause it's offline. I can't get online with it right now, how do I tell it to give up on the microsoft fonts already?21:57
holsteinthats a good one cellofellow21:58
holsteini remember seeing that error once21:58
holsteinand it was a bad disc i was trying to install from21:58
holsteini think it was AVlinux21:58
holsteinor 64studio21:58
holsteinsomething with a DVD size installer disc21:58
cellofellowit's from a USB21:59
holsteinand i had that, and other errors21:59
holsteinhmmm21:59
cellofellowso, not likely to be media issues21:59
holsteinstill, the installer should work21:59
holsteinwithout internet21:59
holsteinall the necesarry packages should be on the disc21:59
holsteinnecessary*22:00
cellofellowttf-mscorefonts-installer doesn't actually have the data, it just downloads it during the debconf stuff.22:00
holsteini got nothin :)22:01
cellofellowwell, I'm gonna go find a network connection I guess22:01
holsteini dont know how to bypass that22:01
holsteinand i just install vanilla and upgrade22:01
cellofellowah, well22:01
holsteingood luck22:01
holsteinmaybe a local #ubuntu-channel ?22:02
meganerdwhat version are you trying to install?  the microsoft font pack is not part of the default install AFAIK22:03
tucemiuxholstein, have you any experience with jack?22:25
holsteinhey tucemiux22:31
holsteini have some experience22:31
holsteini use it with ardour and my presonus firepod mostly22:32
holsteinOH i use jack on OSX some too22:32
tucemiuxholstein, i was trying to figure out how to make really acid sounds22:32
holsteinyou mean like the software acid?22:33
tucemiuxholstein, some of the sounds you hear on techno songs, like just one or two notes22:33
holsteinOK22:33
tucemiuxi've never heard of software acid22:33
holsteingood for you :)22:33
holsteinhave you been to #opensourcemusicians22:33
tucemiuxbut i know i can take the virtual keyboard and pass it to zynaddsubfx through jack but which settings would allow me to get the desired effects?22:34
holsteintheres some guys there that do awesome electronic music22:34
holsteintucemiux: i use rakarrack22:34
holsteinfor effects22:34
tucemiuxholstein, you play guitar?22:34
holsteini play bass22:34
holsteinacoustic bass22:34
holsteinproffesionally22:34
tucemiuxoh dawwnnn....22:34
tucemiuxdo you have a myspace page?22:34
holsteinbut i play all kinds of instruments here at the house :)22:34
holsteinyup22:34
tucemiuxyour band ever comes to new york?22:35
holsteinim playing up there in may22:35
holsteinhttp://www.myspace.com/mikeholstein22:35
tucemiuxok well if you jot it down in your myspace profile ill put it in my calendar22:35
tucemiuxyoure all the way in carolina? dawnnn LoL  you know what place youre going to be jammin in?22:36
* holstein looking22:36
holsteinits called katana i think22:37
tucemiuxnever heard of it, must be in the village somewhere22:37
holsteinkitano22:38
holsteinhttp://www.kitano.com/22:38
holsteinmay 13th22:38
tucemiuxthat's like a luxury hotel???22:38
holsteinhttp://www.callthatjazz.com/cotangent.html22:39
holsteinyeah, its a little snooty in there22:39
holsteinbut its pretty cool22:39
holsteinnice piano22:39
tucemiuxyes and i bet it's by invitation, VIP only22:40
holsteinhmm22:40
holsteini dont think so22:40
holsteinthe club part is more inviting22:40
holsteinthe jazz club part22:40
tucemiuxheck, it's got a comment by maria sharapova22:40
holsteinlol22:40
holsteinyou never know whos gonna be at the gig in NYC22:41
tucemiuxyour band must be one of the bands that can actually play, youve got these very popular bands that on MSG and sound nothing like the recording22:41
holsteinyeah, its a fun band22:41
holsteingreat players from up there22:42
tucemiuxi meant to say, there's some bands that play live and they're quite famous and sound nothing like the CD, what a disappointment22:42
holsteinthe piano player lives down here too22:42
holsteinhe use to be up there22:42
holsteinand put the band together22:42
holsteinthe bass player got too busy22:42
holsteinso i got to take it on22:42
tucemiuxyeah finding real actual performing artists is one thing, ones that can actually perform live, can show up on time without being drunk or high22:43
holsteinoh yeah22:43
holsteinyou go to the 55bar?22:43
holsteini like that venue22:43
holsteindown in the village22:43
holsteinmore my style really22:44
holsteinnot so upiddy22:44
tucemiuxi'm completely out of the bar scene, havent gone out since last year's, ill probably wont go out until i either lose 20 pounds or finish my wine collection, i only have 3 more bottles to go22:44
tucemiuxi meant to say i havent gone out since last new year's LoL22:44
holsteinw0w22:45
holsteinworkin through a wine collection22:45
holsteinthats sounds like fun22:45
holsteinim not a big wine drinker22:45
holsteini have beer from time to time22:45
tucemiuxyes but it's really hard finding a red knot shiraz bottle from australia, i can't find that thing anywhere22:45
holsteinnice22:46
holsteinprobably more likely to find that kind of thing up there though22:46
tucemiuxand it's really cheap too, like $9 a bottle but I cant find it anywhere, I had one bottle of it and it really hit the spot22:46
tucemiuxok im going to check out #opensourcemusicians , hopefully i can find a jedi master22:47
holsteini had a cheap austalian wine22:47
holsteina while back22:47
holsteinit was great22:47
tucemiuxit's good for your health22:47
holsteinquite a step up from all the others in that price range22:47
holsteinso tucemiux22:51
holsteinyou could route the Vkeyboard over to zyn22:52
holsteinand use something like jackrack22:52
holsteinor something to add effects to the path22:52
tucemiuxi tried that22:52
holsteinoh yeah22:52
holstein?22:52
holsteinno love?22:52
tucemiuxthe question is how do i achieve the sounds that I want to create?22:52
holsteinOH22:52
holsteinnot getting the sounds22:52
holsteingotcha22:52
tucemiuxno, it works22:52
tucemiuxi hear sound22:53
holsteinyeah, not the sounds you want22:53
tucemiuxbut i mean how do i make the sound come out really acidddy?? what effect should I choose?22:53
holsteindo you have a track?22:54
tucemiuxi thought holstein was just a nick LoL22:54
holsteinmaybe on youtube or somewhere22:54
holsteinthat your trying to emulate?22:54
tucemiuxno22:54
holsteinhmmm22:54
holsteini guess youve tried all the usual suspects22:54
holsteindistortion22:54
holsteinand flangers22:54
holsteinchorus22:54
holsteinall that kind of thing22:55
tucemiuxi tried a few yes but i didnt notice anything, let me try it again, hold oh, brb22:55
tucemiuxholstein, how do i make the connections?  I have Jack rack running and zynaddsubfx22:58
holsteinhow are you running a Vkeyboard?22:59
holsteinyou using the one in zyn?22:59
tucemiuxno, ill make it easy and just zyn22:59
holsteineither way22:59
holsteinjust an additional routing step if you dont use the one in zyn22:59
holsteinthe way i would do it22:59
holsteinyour looking at the qjackctl panel right?23:00
holsteinhttp://qjackctl.sourceforge.net/qjackctl-ss1.html23:00
holsteinwe can use that i think23:00
tucemiuxnope23:00
tucemiuxi want to connec them first23:01
holsteinso we know what we are talking about23:01
holsteinyou see the main control window23:01
holsteinthe very top pic on that site23:01
tucemiuxwhew that link you sent me is really something23:02
holsteinyou click on the connections panel23:02
holsteinjust that button that says 'connect' should get you there23:02
holsteinthen you should see...23:02
tucemiuxon the jack panel you mean?23:02
tucemiuxyes23:02
tucemiuxi clicked on 'connect'23:02
holsteinsomething like pic 923:02
holstein9th one down23:03
tucemiuxnow im trying to figure out the connections23:03
holsteinAudio (JACK) connections window23:03
holsteinor the midi one23:03
holsteinthose are tabs in the connections panel23:03
holsteinmidi and audio23:03
tucemiuxyes, I have Audio, Midi, and Alsa23:03
holsteinyou shouldnt need to do any midi or alsa routing23:04
holsteinif your using the zyn VkeyB23:04
tucemiuxIs the connection supposed to look like this: ZynAddSubFX -> Jack Rack ->system23:04
holsteinthats probaly right23:04
tucemiuxlet me try it23:04
holsteinyeah23:04
holsteinand you pick from the left23:05
holsteinand connect to the right23:05
holsteinLIKE23:05
holsteinsystem on the right23:05
tucemiuxso far so good, we have sound23:05
holsteinor someting on the right23:05
tucemiuxnow let me try adding an effect from jack rack and see what happens23:05
holsteinwill be the main OUT23:05
holsteinyou route whatever effect in jackrack out to the main out23:06
holsteinthen unhook zyn from the mains23:06
tucemiuxIm using headphones on my laptop, I just made the connections Zyn -> Jack Rack -> system, I have sound so all is good23:06
holsteinand plug it into the effect23:06
holsteinSWEET23:06
holstein:)23:06
holsteinjack is really awesome once you get into how it works23:06
tucemiuxnow let me choose an effect in JAck RAck and lets see what the sound is like23:07
holsteinits more like an actual patchbay23:07
tucemiuxholstein, this is what im talking about, now which effect should I use?? LoL  there's tons of them23:07
holsteinwell23:08
holsteinthat all depends23:08
holsteinif your wanting 'acid'23:08
holsteini would say something swirly23:08
holsteinlike a flanger23:08
tucemiuxi wonder if there's a guide out there23:08
holsteinor something23:08
holsteinthere might be23:09
holsteinon the sites for the plugins23:09
tucemiuxholstein, im talking about the nice sounds you hear on pop or tech no songs, like on alice dj23:09
holsteinbut, experimenting is the way to go23:09
holsteinim sure you'll find something in there23:09
tucemiuxok ill experiment, i'll get a sound i really like some day, i'll also ask in #opensourcemusicians but at least you got me halfway23:10
holsteinthose guys at #OSM's get some awesome sounds using this stuff23:10
holstein:)23:10
tucemiuxok im outie, i'll be back later in #opensourcemusicians thanks for the 41123:11

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