[13:54] <gunavara> hi guys is ubuntustudio a distro ?
[13:54] <gunavara> i am downloading it atm
[18:03] <damnit123> heeyy!!
[18:05] <damnit123> if some one wouldnt mind helping me, I am trying to get my my terratec phase 24 to work with ubuntu 9.10 *upgraded* from 8.x but i get the following bs.. At first I connect the card to the Firewire card to the phase 24 and it find its ok.. if I do: # ffado-test ListDevices .. when I do: # ffado-test Discover  its finds the card but then has a bundle of red warnings
[18:05] <damnit123> after that the card goes zombiefied
[18:05] <damnit123> the fw card that is
[18:07] <damnit123> and cant find the phase24 again untill reboot.. the firewire card is a VIA based one 6280 or something  .. I believe it to be supported as well the phase 24 by ffado.. which brings me to the major anoyance
[18:08] <damnit123> the kernel shiped is 2.6.31 @£$£% when to recompile jack / ffado 2 rc2 you need > 2.6.31
[18:09] <damnit123> is there a solution to this??
[18:11] <damnit123> surely theres just some package upgrade to ustudio / karmic ???
[18:12] <damnit123> which version of ffado did you ship 9.1 with as well just as a mater of curiousity
[18:15] <damnit123> and just something else that really pved me off, please dont make the installer  do anything regarding m$ bullshit in future breaking the offline installer in 9.10 is no way worth anything that m$ have got to offer especially not over there fonts ;(
[18:20] <damnit123> I propose that some one creates a dialog to ask if they want to install un-supported mS-tt-fonts and prehaps w32/64 codecs at the end of the installation AFTER grub install, where the user can agree to break and violate various laws ;)
[18:21] <damnit123> laws/licesencs
[18:26] <damnit123> hm I seem to be banned from #ubuntu
[18:28] <damnit123> damn it why are the devs letting cracks apear on the seams .. how can something be "supported" but shiped in a non working condition wtf?? ..  ever since beta versions of ffado the phase 24 was supposed to be supported let alone a second RC
[18:34] <damnit123> please ..any one help!!! ... or are you telling me your just screwed if youre offline with no way to realistically recompile the whole sound system for iee1394 devices???
[18:34] <damnit123> 3$"!£~$£~$%$&~%?@*($%&I:JR~
[19:12] <chiiiiiz> Hi
[19:12] <chiiiiiz> How can I have alsa-pcm in jack?
[19:12] <damnit123> hmm.. i think you need to enable HW monitor or one of thoses settings
[19:13] <chiiiiiz> I want to listen to music with my M-Audio 1010LT soundcard, and I have read about connecting alsa-pcm in jack... but I do not have any alsa-pcm in or outputs
[19:13] <chiiiiiz> hi damnit123
[19:13] <damnit123> they apear when you enable the HW monitor or the other setting thats there with it.. in qjaclctl
[19:20] <chiiiiiz> I have everything in french... so I do not see any hw monitor...
[19:22] <damnit123> if you look at the dialog the left hand side has tick boxs
[19:22] <damnit123> its the 5th or 7th one
[19:23] <damnit123> english translation: http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/q/qjackctl-302549-1257497328.jpeg
[19:50] <chiiiiiz> damnit123: thanks for the link, but I still do not see any alsa-pcm...
[19:54] <damnit123> did you restart jackd after selecting the either of the options?
[19:55] <damnit123> I doubt its hw meter.. all I know is one of thoses settings will give you the alsa_pcms in jacks connections
[19:56] <chiiiiiz> yes, I did... I even restarted the whole PC...
[19:56] <damnit123> hmm .. not too sure then.. i suppose it could be "hw Meter" that does it then .. which is the 8th one ..
[19:58] <chiiiiiz> It is "Monotor"... I have now 10 monitors in alsa-pcm...
[19:58] <damnit123> fjear
[19:58] <damnit123> ;)
[19:59] <chiiiiiz> I guess, since my speakers are connected to output 1&2 that I must connect monitors 1& 2 in alsa-pcm to these output 1&2... or???
[20:02] <damnit123> i gues that is right.. left and right channels go out of the window..
[21:57] <cellofellow> I've got a problem. Trying to install Studio on a laptop that has no internet at the moment. It keeps stalling while trying to configure tt-mscorefonts-installer, which keeps failing cause it's offline. I can't get online with it right now, how do I tell it to give up on the microsoft fonts already?
[21:58] <holstein> thats a good one cellofellow
[21:58] <holstein> i remember seeing that error once
[21:58] <holstein> and it was a bad disc i was trying to install from
[21:58] <holstein> i think it was AVlinux
[21:58] <holstein> or 64studio
[21:58] <holstein> something with a DVD size installer disc
[21:59] <cellofellow> it's from a USB
[21:59] <holstein> and i had that, and other errors
[21:59] <holstein> hmmm
[21:59] <cellofellow> so, not likely to be media issues
[21:59] <holstein> still, the installer should work
[21:59] <holstein> without internet
[21:59] <holstein> all the necesarry packages should be on the disc
[22:00] <holstein> necessary*
[22:00] <cellofellow> ttf-mscorefonts-installer doesn't actually have the data, it just downloads it during the debconf stuff.
[22:01] <holstein> i got nothin :)
[22:01] <cellofellow> well, I'm gonna go find a network connection I guess
[22:01] <holstein> i dont know how to bypass that
[22:01] <holstein> and i just install vanilla and upgrade
[22:01] <cellofellow> ah, well
[22:01] <holstein> good luck
[22:02] <holstein> maybe a local #ubuntu-channel ?
[22:03] <meganerd> what version are you trying to install?  the microsoft font pack is not part of the default install AFAIK
[22:25] <tucemiux> holstein, have you any experience with jack?
[22:31] <holstein> hey tucemiux
[22:31] <holstein> i have some experience
[22:32] <holstein> i use it with ardour and my presonus firepod mostly
[22:32] <holstein> OH i use jack on OSX some too
[22:32] <tucemiux> holstein, i was trying to figure out how to make really acid sounds
[22:33] <holstein> you mean like the software acid?
[22:33] <tucemiux> holstein, some of the sounds you hear on techno songs, like just one or two notes
[22:33] <holstein> OK
[22:33] <tucemiux> i've never heard of software acid
[22:33] <holstein> good for you :)
[22:33] <holstein> have you been to #opensourcemusicians
[22:34] <tucemiux> but i know i can take the virtual keyboard and pass it to zynaddsubfx through jack but which settings would allow me to get the desired effects?
[22:34] <holstein> theres some guys there that do awesome electronic music
[22:34] <holstein> tucemiux: i use rakarrack
[22:34] <holstein> for effects
[22:34] <tucemiux> holstein, you play guitar?
[22:34] <holstein> i play bass
[22:34] <holstein> acoustic bass
[22:34] <holstein> proffesionally
[22:34] <tucemiux> oh dawwnnn....
[22:34] <tucemiux> do you have a myspace page?
[22:34] <holstein> but i play all kinds of instruments here at the house :)
[22:34] <holstein> yup
[22:35] <tucemiux> your band ever comes to new york?
[22:35] <holstein> im playing up there in may
[22:35] <holstein> http://www.myspace.com/mikeholstein
[22:35] <tucemiux> ok well if you jot it down in your myspace profile ill put it in my calendar
[22:36] <tucemiux> youre all the way in carolina? dawnnn LoL  you know what place youre going to be jammin in?
[22:36]  * holstein looking
[22:37] <holstein> its called katana i think
[22:37] <tucemiux> never heard of it, must be in the village somewhere
[22:38] <holstein> kitano
[22:38] <holstein> http://www.kitano.com/
[22:38] <holstein> may 13th
[22:38] <tucemiux> that's like a luxury hotel???
[22:39] <holstein> http://www.callthatjazz.com/cotangent.html
[22:39] <holstein> yeah, its a little snooty in there
[22:39] <holstein> but its pretty cool
[22:39] <holstein> nice piano
[22:40] <tucemiux> yes and i bet it's by invitation, VIP only
[22:40] <holstein> hmm
[22:40] <holstein> i dont think so
[22:40] <holstein> the club part is more inviting
[22:40] <holstein> the jazz club part
[22:40] <tucemiux> heck, it's got a comment by maria sharapova
[22:40] <holstein> lol
[22:41] <holstein> you never know whos gonna be at the gig in NYC
[22:41] <tucemiux> your band must be one of the bands that can actually play, youve got these very popular bands that on MSG and sound nothing like the recording
[22:41] <holstein> yeah, its a fun band
[22:42] <holstein> great players from up there
[22:42] <tucemiux> i meant to say, there's some bands that play live and they're quite famous and sound nothing like the CD, what a disappointment
[22:42] <holstein> the piano player lives down here too
[22:42] <holstein> he use to be up there
[22:42] <holstein> and put the band together
[22:42] <holstein> the bass player got too busy
[22:42] <holstein> so i got to take it on
[22:43] <tucemiux> yeah finding real actual performing artists is one thing, ones that can actually perform live, can show up on time without being drunk or high
[22:43] <holstein> oh yeah
[22:43] <holstein> you go to the 55bar?
[22:43] <holstein> i like that venue
[22:43] <holstein> down in the village
[22:44] <holstein> more my style really
[22:44] <holstein> not so upiddy
[22:44] <tucemiux> i'm completely out of the bar scene, havent gone out since last year's, ill probably wont go out until i either lose 20 pounds or finish my wine collection, i only have 3 more bottles to go
[22:44] <tucemiux> i meant to say i havent gone out since last new year's LoL
[22:45] <holstein> w0w
[22:45] <holstein> workin through a wine collection
[22:45] <holstein> thats sounds like fun
[22:45] <holstein> im not a big wine drinker
[22:45] <holstein> i have beer from time to time
[22:45] <tucemiux> yes but it's really hard finding a red knot shiraz bottle from australia, i can't find that thing anywhere
[22:46] <holstein> nice
[22:46] <holstein> probably more likely to find that kind of thing up there though
[22:46] <tucemiux> and it's really cheap too, like $9 a bottle but I cant find it anywhere, I had one bottle of it and it really hit the spot
[22:47] <tucemiux> ok im going to check out #opensourcemusicians , hopefully i can find a jedi master
[22:47] <holstein> i had a cheap austalian wine
[22:47] <holstein> a while back
[22:47] <holstein> it was great
[22:47] <tucemiux> it's good for your health
[22:47] <holstein> quite a step up from all the others in that price range
[22:51] <holstein> so tucemiux
[22:52] <holstein> you could route the Vkeyboard over to zyn
[22:52] <holstein> and use something like jackrack
[22:52] <holstein> or something to add effects to the path
[22:52] <tucemiux> i tried that
[22:52] <holstein> oh yeah
[22:52] <holstein> ?
[22:52] <holstein> no love?
[22:52] <tucemiux> the question is how do i achieve the sounds that I want to create?
[22:52] <holstein> OH
[22:52] <holstein> not getting the sounds
[22:52] <holstein> gotcha
[22:52] <tucemiux> no, it works
[22:53] <tucemiux> i hear sound
[22:53] <holstein> yeah, not the sounds you want
[22:53] <tucemiux> but i mean how do i make the sound come out really acidddy?? what effect should I choose?
[22:54] <holstein> do you have a track?
[22:54] <tucemiux> i thought holstein was just a nick LoL
[22:54] <holstein> maybe on youtube or somewhere
[22:54] <holstein> that your trying to emulate?
[22:54] <tucemiux> no
[22:54] <holstein> hmmm
[22:54] <holstein> i guess youve tried all the usual suspects
[22:54] <holstein> distortion
[22:54] <holstein> and flangers
[22:54] <holstein> chorus
[22:55] <holstein> all that kind of thing
[22:55] <tucemiux> i tried a few yes but i didnt notice anything, let me try it again, hold oh, brb
[22:58] <tucemiux> holstein, how do i make the connections?  I have Jack rack running and zynaddsubfx
[22:59] <holstein> how are you running a Vkeyboard?
[22:59] <holstein> you using the one in zyn?
[22:59] <tucemiux> no, ill make it easy and just zyn
[22:59] <holstein> either way
[22:59] <holstein> just an additional routing step if you dont use the one in zyn
[22:59] <holstein> the way i would do it
[23:00] <holstein> your looking at the qjackctl panel right?
[23:00] <holstein> http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net/qjackctl-ss1.html
[23:00] <holstein> we can use that i think
[23:00] <tucemiux> nope
[23:01] <tucemiux> i want to connec them first
[23:01] <holstein> so we know what we are talking about
[23:01] <holstein> you see the main control window
[23:01] <holstein> the very top pic on that site
[23:02] <tucemiux> whew that link you sent me is really something
[23:02] <holstein> you click on the connections panel
[23:02] <holstein> just that button that says 'connect' should get you there
[23:02] <holstein> then you should see...
[23:02] <tucemiux> on the jack panel you mean?
[23:02] <tucemiux> yes
[23:02] <tucemiux> i clicked on 'connect'
[23:02] <holstein> something like pic 9
[23:03] <holstein> 9th one down
[23:03] <tucemiux> now im trying to figure out the connections
[23:03] <holstein> Audio (JACK) connections window
[23:03] <holstein> or the midi one
[23:03] <holstein> those are tabs in the connections panel
[23:03] <holstein> midi and audio
[23:03] <tucemiux> yes, I have Audio, Midi, and Alsa
[23:04] <holstein> you shouldnt need to do any midi or alsa routing
[23:04] <holstein> if your using the zyn VkeyB
[23:04] <tucemiux> Is the connection supposed to look like this: ZynAddSubFX -> Jack Rack ->system
[23:04] <holstein> thats probaly right
[23:04] <tucemiux> let me try it
[23:04] <holstein> yeah
[23:05] <holstein> and you pick from the left
[23:05] <holstein> and connect to the right
[23:05] <holstein> LIKE
[23:05] <holstein> system on the right
[23:05] <tucemiux> so far so good, we have sound
[23:05] <holstein> or someting on the right
[23:05] <tucemiux> now let me try adding an effect from jack rack and see what happens
[23:05] <holstein> will be the main OUT
[23:06] <holstein> you route whatever effect in jackrack out to the main out
[23:06] <holstein> then unhook zyn from the mains
[23:06] <tucemiux> Im using headphones on my laptop, I just made the connections Zyn -> Jack Rack -> system, I have sound so all is good
[23:06] <holstein> and plug it into the effect
[23:06] <holstein> SWEET
[23:06] <holstein> :)
[23:06] <holstein> jack is really awesome once you get into how it works
[23:07] <tucemiux> now let me choose an effect in JAck RAck and lets see what the sound is like
[23:07] <holstein> its more like an actual patchbay
[23:07] <tucemiux> holstein, this is what im talking about, now which effect should I use?? LoL  there's tons of them
[23:08] <holstein> well
[23:08] <holstein> that all depends
[23:08] <holstein> if your wanting 'acid'
[23:08] <holstein> i would say something swirly
[23:08] <holstein> like a flanger
[23:08] <tucemiux> i wonder if there's a guide out there
[23:08] <holstein> or something
[23:09] <holstein> there might be
[23:09] <holstein> on the sites for the plugins
[23:09] <tucemiux> holstein, im talking about the nice sounds you hear on pop or tech no songs, like on alice dj
[23:09] <holstein> but, experimenting is the way to go
[23:09] <holstein> im sure you'll find something in there
[23:10] <tucemiux> ok ill experiment, i'll get a sound i really like some day, i'll also ask in #opensourcemusicians but at least you got me halfway
[23:10] <holstein> those guys at #OSM's get some awesome sounds using this stuff
[23:10] <holstein> :)
[23:11] <tucemiux> ok im outie, i'll be back later in #opensourcemusicians thanks for the 411