=== amstan_ is now known as amstan === skrzat_ is now known as skrzat [13:54] hi guys is ubuntustudio a distro ? [13:54] i am downloading it atm [18:03] heeyy!! [18:05] if some one wouldnt mind helping me, I am trying to get my my terratec phase 24 to work with ubuntu 9.10 *upgraded* from 8.x but i get the following bs.. At first I connect the card to the Firewire card to the phase 24 and it find its ok.. if I do: # ffado-test ListDevices .. when I do: # ffado-test Discover its finds the card but then has a bundle of red warnings [18:05] after that the card goes zombiefied [18:05] the fw card that is [18:07] and cant find the phase24 again untill reboot.. the firewire card is a VIA based one 6280 or something .. I believe it to be supported as well the phase 24 by ffado.. which brings me to the major anoyance [18:08] the kernel shiped is 2.6.31 @£$£% when to recompile jack / ffado 2 rc2 you need > 2.6.31 [18:09] is there a solution to this?? [18:11] surely theres just some package upgrade to ustudio / karmic ??? [18:12] which version of ffado did you ship 9.1 with as well just as a mater of curiousity [18:15] and just something else that really pved me off, please dont make the installer do anything regarding m$ bullshit in future breaking the offline installer in 9.10 is no way worth anything that m$ have got to offer especially not over there fonts ;( [18:20] I propose that some one creates a dialog to ask if they want to install un-supported mS-tt-fonts and prehaps w32/64 codecs at the end of the installation AFTER grub install, where the user can agree to break and violate various laws ;) [18:21] laws/licesencs [18:26] hm I seem to be banned from #ubuntu [18:28] damn it why are the devs letting cracks apear on the seams .. how can something be "supported" but shiped in a non working condition wtf?? .. ever since beta versions of ffado the phase 24 was supposed to be supported let alone a second RC [18:34] please ..any one help!!! ... or are you telling me your just screwed if youre offline with no way to realistically recompile the whole sound system for iee1394 devices??? [18:34] 3$"!£~$£~$%$&~%?@*($%&I:JR~ [19:12] Hi [19:12] How can I have alsa-pcm in jack? [19:12] hmm.. i think you need to enable HW monitor or one of thoses settings [19:13] I want to listen to music with my M-Audio 1010LT soundcard, and I have read about connecting alsa-pcm in jack... but I do not have any alsa-pcm in or outputs [19:13] hi damnit123 [19:13] they apear when you enable the HW monitor or the other setting thats there with it.. in qjaclctl [19:20] I have everything in french... so I do not see any hw monitor... [19:22] if you look at the dialog the left hand side has tick boxs [19:22] its the 5th or 7th one [19:23] english translation: http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/q/qjackctl-302549-1257497328.jpeg [19:50] damnit123: thanks for the link, but I still do not see any alsa-pcm... [19:54] did you restart jackd after selecting the either of the options? [19:55] I doubt its hw meter.. all I know is one of thoses settings will give you the alsa_pcms in jacks connections [19:56] yes, I did... I even restarted the whole PC... [19:56] hmm .. not too sure then.. i suppose it could be "hw Meter" that does it then .. which is the 8th one .. [19:58] It is "Monotor"... I have now 10 monitors in alsa-pcm... [19:58] fjear [19:58] ;) [19:59] I guess, since my speakers are connected to output 1&2 that I must connect monitors 1& 2 in alsa-pcm to these output 1&2... or??? [20:02] i gues that is right.. left and right channels go out of the window.. === damnit123 is now known as damnit123_ [21:57] I've got a problem. Trying to install Studio on a laptop that has no internet at the moment. It keeps stalling while trying to configure tt-mscorefonts-installer, which keeps failing cause it's offline. I can't get online with it right now, how do I tell it to give up on the microsoft fonts already? [21:58] thats a good one cellofellow [21:58] i remember seeing that error once [21:58] and it was a bad disc i was trying to install from [21:58] i think it was AVlinux [21:58] or 64studio [21:58] something with a DVD size installer disc [21:59] it's from a USB [21:59] and i had that, and other errors [21:59] hmmm [21:59] so, not likely to be media issues [21:59] still, the installer should work [21:59] without internet [21:59] all the necesarry packages should be on the disc [22:00] necessary* [22:00] ttf-mscorefonts-installer doesn't actually have the data, it just downloads it during the debconf stuff. [22:01] i got nothin :) [22:01] well, I'm gonna go find a network connection I guess [22:01] i dont know how to bypass that [22:01] and i just install vanilla and upgrade [22:01] ah, well [22:01] good luck [22:02] maybe a local #ubuntu-channel ? [22:03] what version are you trying to install? the microsoft font pack is not part of the default install AFAIK [22:25] holstein, have you any experience with jack? [22:31] hey tucemiux [22:31] i have some experience [22:32] i use it with ardour and my presonus firepod mostly [22:32] OH i use jack on OSX some too [22:32] holstein, i was trying to figure out how to make really acid sounds [22:33] you mean like the software acid? [22:33] holstein, some of the sounds you hear on techno songs, like just one or two notes [22:33] OK [22:33] i've never heard of software acid [22:33] good for you :) [22:33] have you been to #opensourcemusicians [22:34] but i know i can take the virtual keyboard and pass it to zynaddsubfx through jack but which settings would allow me to get the desired effects? [22:34] theres some guys there that do awesome electronic music [22:34] tucemiux: i use rakarrack [22:34] for effects [22:34] holstein, you play guitar? [22:34] i play bass [22:34] acoustic bass [22:34] proffesionally [22:34] oh dawwnnn.... [22:34] do you have a myspace page? [22:34] but i play all kinds of instruments here at the house :) [22:34] yup [22:35] your band ever comes to new york? [22:35] im playing up there in may [22:35] http://www.myspace.com/mikeholstein [22:35] ok well if you jot it down in your myspace profile ill put it in my calendar [22:36] youre all the way in carolina? dawnnn LoL you know what place youre going to be jammin in? [22:36] * holstein looking [22:37] its called katana i think [22:37] never heard of it, must be in the village somewhere [22:38] kitano [22:38] http://www.kitano.com/ [22:38] may 13th [22:38] that's like a luxury hotel??? [22:39] http://www.callthatjazz.com/cotangent.html [22:39] yeah, its a little snooty in there [22:39] but its pretty cool [22:39] nice piano [22:40] yes and i bet it's by invitation, VIP only [22:40] hmm [22:40] i dont think so [22:40] the club part is more inviting [22:40] the jazz club part [22:40] heck, it's got a comment by maria sharapova [22:40] lol [22:41] you never know whos gonna be at the gig in NYC [22:41] your band must be one of the bands that can actually play, youve got these very popular bands that on MSG and sound nothing like the recording [22:41] yeah, its a fun band [22:42] great players from up there [22:42] i meant to say, there's some bands that play live and they're quite famous and sound nothing like the CD, what a disappointment [22:42] the piano player lives down here too [22:42] he use to be up there [22:42] and put the band together [22:42] the bass player got too busy [22:42] so i got to take it on [22:43] yeah finding real actual performing artists is one thing, ones that can actually perform live, can show up on time without being drunk or high [22:43] oh yeah [22:43] you go to the 55bar? [22:43] i like that venue [22:43] down in the village [22:44] more my style really [22:44] not so upiddy [22:44] i'm completely out of the bar scene, havent gone out since last year's, ill probably wont go out until i either lose 20 pounds or finish my wine collection, i only have 3 more bottles to go [22:44] i meant to say i havent gone out since last new year's LoL [22:45] w0w [22:45] workin through a wine collection [22:45] thats sounds like fun [22:45] im not a big wine drinker [22:45] i have beer from time to time [22:45] yes but it's really hard finding a red knot shiraz bottle from australia, i can't find that thing anywhere [22:46] nice [22:46] probably more likely to find that kind of thing up there though [22:46] and it's really cheap too, like $9 a bottle but I cant find it anywhere, I had one bottle of it and it really hit the spot [22:47] ok im going to check out #opensourcemusicians , hopefully i can find a jedi master [22:47] i had a cheap austalian wine [22:47] a while back [22:47] it was great [22:47] it's good for your health [22:47] quite a step up from all the others in that price range [22:51] so tucemiux [22:52] you could route the Vkeyboard over to zyn [22:52] and use something like jackrack [22:52] or something to add effects to the path [22:52] i tried that [22:52] oh yeah [22:52] ? [22:52] no love? [22:52] the question is how do i achieve the sounds that I want to create? [22:52] OH [22:52] not getting the sounds [22:52] gotcha [22:52] no, it works [22:53] i hear sound [22:53] yeah, not the sounds you want [22:53] but i mean how do i make the sound come out really acidddy?? what effect should I choose? [22:54] do you have a track? [22:54] i thought holstein was just a nick LoL [22:54] maybe on youtube or somewhere [22:54] that your trying to emulate? [22:54] no [22:54] hmmm [22:54] i guess youve tried all the usual suspects [22:54] distortion [22:54] and flangers [22:54] chorus [22:55] all that kind of thing [22:55] i tried a few yes but i didnt notice anything, let me try it again, hold oh, brb [22:58] holstein, how do i make the connections? I have Jack rack running and zynaddsubfx [22:59] how are you running a Vkeyboard? [22:59] you using the one in zyn? [22:59] no, ill make it easy and just zyn [22:59] either way [22:59] just an additional routing step if you dont use the one in zyn [22:59] the way i would do it [23:00] your looking at the qjackctl panel right? [23:00] http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net/qjackctl-ss1.html [23:00] we can use that i think [23:00] nope [23:01] i want to connec them first [23:01] so we know what we are talking about [23:01] you see the main control window [23:01] the very top pic on that site [23:02] whew that link you sent me is really something [23:02] you click on the connections panel [23:02] just that button that says 'connect' should get you there [23:02] then you should see... [23:02] on the jack panel you mean? [23:02] yes [23:02] i clicked on 'connect' [23:02] something like pic 9 [23:03] 9th one down [23:03] now im trying to figure out the connections [23:03] Audio (JACK) connections window [23:03] or the midi one [23:03] those are tabs in the connections panel [23:03] midi and audio [23:03] yes, I have Audio, Midi, and Alsa [23:04] you shouldnt need to do any midi or alsa routing [23:04] if your using the zyn VkeyB [23:04] Is the connection supposed to look like this: ZynAddSubFX -> Jack Rack ->system [23:04] thats probaly right [23:04] let me try it [23:04] yeah [23:05] and you pick from the left [23:05] and connect to the right [23:05] LIKE [23:05] system on the right [23:05] so far so good, we have sound [23:05] or someting on the right [23:05] now let me try adding an effect from jack rack and see what happens [23:05] will be the main OUT [23:06] you route whatever effect in jackrack out to the main out [23:06] then unhook zyn from the mains [23:06] Im using headphones on my laptop, I just made the connections Zyn -> Jack Rack -> system, I have sound so all is good [23:06] and plug it into the effect [23:06] SWEET [23:06] :) [23:06] jack is really awesome once you get into how it works [23:07] now let me choose an effect in JAck RAck and lets see what the sound is like [23:07] its more like an actual patchbay [23:07] holstein, this is what im talking about, now which effect should I use?? LoL there's tons of them [23:08] well [23:08] that all depends [23:08] if your wanting 'acid' [23:08] i would say something swirly [23:08] like a flanger [23:08] i wonder if there's a guide out there [23:08] or something [23:09] there might be [23:09] on the sites for the plugins [23:09] holstein, im talking about the nice sounds you hear on pop or tech no songs, like on alice dj [23:09] but, experimenting is the way to go [23:09] im sure you'll find something in there [23:10] ok ill experiment, i'll get a sound i really like some day, i'll also ask in #opensourcemusicians but at least you got me halfway [23:10] those guys at #OSM's get some awesome sounds using this stuff [23:10] :) [23:11] ok im outie, i'll be back later in #opensourcemusicians thanks for the 411