[00:03] <syn-ack> It's official. I hate Exail. :P
[00:03] <syn-ack> +e
[00:06] <charlie-tca> heh
[00:09] <rr72> oh a dup is a duplicate!!!!!!!!!!
[00:09] <charlie-tca> yeah
[00:09] <charlie-tca> :-)
[00:10] <syn-ack> er yah
[00:12] <charlie-tca> syn-ack: that is an intentional disable of gdm
[00:13] <charlie-tca> They don't want it running at all
[00:13] <syn-ack> hrm
[00:13] <syn-ack> is it?
[00:14] <charlie-tca> Yes, they are trying to disable gdm completely
[00:14] <charlie-tca> Without it, the startup is defaulting to F7 without a prompt
[00:14] <charlie-tca> Server doesn't use gdm to log in
[00:15] <syn-ack> ah
[00:15] <syn-ack> you sure we're talking about the same bug?
[00:15] <charlie-tca> yup
[00:15] <charlie-tca> nope
[00:15] <syn-ack> 522974?
[00:15] <syn-ack> heh
[00:15] <charlie-tca> picky
[00:16]  * charlie-tca shakes head
[00:16] <syn-ack> hehehe
[00:17]  * charlie-tca knows vorlon hates dups. 
[00:17] <charlie-tca> not a dup no more
[00:18] <syn-ack> The only reason I'm saying this is that is more or less the same thing that happens to me and the exact same procedure I had to perform to get around it
[00:18] <charlie-tca> yup
[00:18] <charlie-tca> but he hates dups
[00:18] <syn-ack> meh, oh well, t'was merely trying to help out
[00:18] <charlie-tca> He doesn't allow a bug to be called a duplicate unless every thing matches line by line in the stacktrace
[00:19] <syn-ack> ah
[00:19] <charlie-tca> Not everybody sees the broken pipe because the systems are too fast. I know that already
[00:20] <syn-ack> Well, I've got a pretty quick system, but I was paying attention after the first couple times it happened
[02:14] <b__> i want to try and figure out why my laptop freezes when I try to boot into xubuntu 10.04, i think it might be the intel driver, but i'm not sure how to diagnose it since nothing persists
[02:15] <b__> it also freezes when i boot into ubuntu 9.10 live cd
[02:22] <xiainx> did you try running the memory test from the bootloader?
[02:22] <b__> no, but the laptop runs 8.10 fine (
[02:22] <b__> i'm on it)
[02:22] <xiainx> Hmmm
[02:22] <b__> i think the intel graphics driver changed for 9.10
[02:23] <xiainx> is your graphics card intel?
[02:23] <b__> when 9.10 came out, i tried to figure out what was going on and it seemed to be hanging in an intel driver call
[02:23] <b__> thats why i never upgraded
[02:24] <b__> i'm using an asus s5n, which has 82852/855GM
[02:28] <b__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8210435&postcount=14
[02:29] <b__> i posted the gdb backtraces i got with 9.10 there
[02:29] <b__> i haven't been able to get the same for 10.04 yet
[02:34] <xiainx> which kernel version?
[02:35] <b__> the ones on the liveCDs
[02:36] <b__> 9.10 offical release, and 10.04 beta or whatever it's at
[02:36] <duckwars> what is the name of gui application for partitioning drives in xubuntu?
[02:36] <duckwars> there is no gparted
[02:36] <xiainx> doesn't have one
[02:37] <xiainx> download gparted from the package manager if you want a nice gui one.
[02:38] <xiainx> Hmmm
[02:39] <xiainx> b__ it looks like ubuntu isn't shipping with the driver for that card anymore.
[02:39] <xiainx> I don't know, but this might help you out:
[02:39] <xiainx> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver
[02:40] <b__> i thought it was just a generic intel driver that handled most (all?) intel cards
[02:42] <xiainx> Yeah, I dunno
[02:44] <xiainx> Sorry, I don't have an answer for you :( Maybe someone else can help out
[02:44] <duckwars> intel graphics card?
[02:45] <b__> yea :(
[02:46] <b__> the 9.10 releasenotes say the intel driver changed quite a bit
[02:46] <b__> i guess my laptop's hardware got depreciated
[03:15] <b__> guess i'll try and get a bt with the new image
[03:30] <bj0> Xorg freezes and pegs the cpu at 100%
[03:30] <bj0> :/
[03:31] <bj0> oh i am getting dmesg messages this time
[03:45] <duckwars> is there anyway to change my Xubuntu into regular ubuntu, gparted don't work in xubuntu 9.10
[03:49] <xiainx> what??
[03:49] <xiainx> "it won't work" how so?
[03:51] <duckwars> well, i get an error, i'[m about to put it on pastebin
[03:56] <xiainx> gah, gotta run
[03:57] <duckwars> ok
[03:59] <syn-ack> duckwars: go on...
[04:00] <duckwars> things have changed
[04:00] <duckwars> i successfully made my usb ext3
[04:00] <duckwars> but when I try to run usb startup creator
[04:00] <syn-ack> ah
[04:00] <duckwars> i can't make my usb stick a startup drive, hitting the format button does nothing
[04:00] <duckwars> and i the make startup button doesn't work
[04:01] <duckwars> err. is greyed out
[04:01] <syn-ack> what other tools have you used?
[04:01] <syn-ack> have you used palmpiset or however it's spelled
[04:02] <duckwars> i don't know what that is
[04:02] <syn-ack> oh wait you're in xubuntu
[04:02] <syn-ack> duckwars: are you trying to make it into a boot disk or something?
[04:03] <duckwars> I'm tryin got make a USB that I can install ubutnu 8.04 from
[04:03] <syn-ack> well you don't need to convert it to ext3
[04:03] <syn-ack> it's actually better that you dont
[04:03] <duckwars> oh? I'm trying to figure out why usb stick creator won't make it for me
[04:04] <syn-ack> duckwars: reformat it as fat32 and set the bootflag
[04:04] <syn-ack> or even 16
[04:04] <duckwars> fat32 you say?
[04:04] <duckwars> kk
[04:09] <duckwars> someone in the ubuntu channel recommended unetbootin
[04:10] <duckwars> it seems to be working
[04:10] <duckwars> thanks for your help though
[04:10] <duckwars> I was wondering why you said I should partition fat32 instead of ext3?
[04:11] <syn-ack> duckwars: that's the only way I've found it to work
[04:13] <homebrewcider> how can I get rid of the annoying beep when i delete something (in Thunar) please?
[04:14] <syn-ack> homebrewcider: I disabled all system event sounds, personally
[04:14] <syn-ack> lemme look
[04:19] <syn-ack> homebrewcider: this is the first time I can say that I don't remember how I disabled sounds nor can I find the menu I chose
[04:19] <syn-ack> literally the first time
[04:29] <homebrewcider> can't find anywhere mentioning system sounds
[05:44] <Balsaq> good morning xubuntu
[05:47] <ozysimpson> Just a quick question, I have ssh'd to boxB from boxA and copying files from boxB to boxC using scp command my question is does boxA get affected or does the resources get utilized by this action ? sorry for the stupid question
[05:58] <tko> So my Ubuntu Linux keeps freezing when I try to boot into it.  It freezes when the loading screen is working, so I can't see what its doing.  Anyone know anything?
[05:59] <ozysimpson> jump into different shell and see what is running ps aux | less
[05:59] <ozysimpson> tko, it depends how far through the boot you are in
[06:00] <ozysimpson> what is the difference between dmesg and /var/log/messages what kind of logs should go where
[06:58] <bj0> i got xubuntu 10.04 booted up on my laptop again, but whenever I try to install it, Xorg freezes.. :/
[06:58] <bj0> http://pastebin.ca/1806467
[07:06] <Balsaq> you foolin around wi thskype?
[07:06] <Balsaq> with skype?
[08:22] <bj0> ok I was able to get it to run on my Asus s5n by using the intel module parameter i915.modeset=0
[12:19] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello
[12:19] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'd like to to: Whats the main difference between Xubuntu and Ubuntu? the Xfce?
[12:21] <Sachse_Siechtum> know
[12:22] <knome> xfce vs. gnome, different default applications
[12:24] <Sachse_Siechtum> I thought Xubuntu is based on gnome?
[12:24] <knome> no.
[12:24] <knome> both xfce and gnome use gtk, but xfce is not based on gnome
[12:24] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah and kubuntu uses Kde right?
[12:26] <knome> yes
[12:26] <Sachse_Siechtum> :-)
[12:26] <Sachse_Siechtum> and Xubuntu is faster than Ubuntu?
[12:27] <knome> it has a smaller memory footprint, yes. with powerful machines with lots of ram and fast processor, you barely can feel the different, but less resources are used.
[12:27] <knome> *difference
[12:28] <ablomen> (though imho its still worth using on fast machines)
[12:28] <Sachse_Siechtum> I see. Because I downloaded the Ubuntu pocket guide and I was wondering how much it helps me with Xubuntu..
[12:29] <knome> ubuntu and xubuntu share the same base system
[12:29] <knome> which is misleadingly also called "ubuntu"
[12:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> I see. :-)
[12:30] <knome> "ubuntu desktop" would be the correct name when comparing xubuntu and kubuntu to ubuntu
[12:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah which I remember....what I wanted to ask....where are the sound options in Xubuntu?
[12:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah
[12:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> they used to be in <system< ....
[12:31] <Sachse_Siechtum> as I heard...
[12:31] <knome> what kind of sound options?
[12:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah dont find the site...there used to be audio settings in "applications" "settings"
[12:36] <knome> don't really know
[12:36] <knome> and have to go now
[12:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok nevermind
[12:36] <knome> hopefull sombody can help you out
[12:36] <knome> bbl ->
[12:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> bye
[12:38] <ablomen> Sachse_Siechtum, what audio settings do you want to change?
[12:41] <Sachse_Siechtum> I mean Audio settings Management
[12:41] <Sachse_Siechtum> I dont have this in my menu...
[12:59] <bittin> Hello has anyone here tested Crunchbang?
[13:01] <Sachse_Siechtum> no
[13:17] <jc0694> loving xubuntu... just moved from kubuntu... wow what a resource hog that was
[13:18] <Sachse_Siechtum> yeah? I just tried Kubuntu and Xubuntu from live cd before installing...kinda liked Xubuntu better (and it recognized my lan card from the start what kubuntu didnt)
[13:20] <bittin> i use both =)
[13:20] <Sachse_Siechtum> :-)
[13:20] <Sachse_Siechtum> I use Xubuntu and Windows XP :-)
[13:22] <jc0694> does xubuntu by default have synaptic installed?
[13:22] <bittin> jc0694: yes
[13:22] <Sachse_Siechtum> yes
[13:22] <bittin> i only use Linux at home Gentoo / Debian and Xubuntu
[13:22] <Sachse_Siechtum> I use XP for games.
[13:22] <bittin> i don't have any good computer for games :p
[13:23] <bittin> only has an old p4, an eeepc and an old p3 laptop =D
[13:23] <Sachse_Siechtum> well mine is a bit older too...but HL2 runs fine..
[13:23] <Sachse_Siechtum> :-)
[13:24] <jc0694> is open office installed by default?
[13:24] <Sachse_Siechtum> I think so.
[13:25] <bittin> yes
[13:25] <bittin> i removed openoffice tough and installed gnome-office instead
[13:26] <jc0694> do u think gnome office is better?
[13:27] <bittin> jc0694: its more light so its better on my pentium3
[13:36] <jc0694> i should be able to download gnome office from synaptic right?  if so what is the package name?
[13:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> can also install gnome office over "applications"> "andd remove applications"
[13:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> add
[13:48] <bittin> jc0694: abiword and gnumeric =)
[13:49] <Sachse_Siechtum> :-)
[14:29] <jc0694> anybody know a comprehensive package that i can download to play music and video files?
[14:29] <jc0694> ... i need all the codecs and plugins
[14:29] <Sachse_Siechtum> vlc?
[15:42] <jc0694> will the plugin flashplugin-installer allow me to watch youtube videos?
[15:42]  * Psilocybin_Elf nods.
[15:50] <abhifx> i have downloaded lucid daily and was trying to run wubi.... but it keeps on trying to download from the net. plz help me
[15:55] <abhifx> i have downloaded lucid daily and was trying to run wubi.... but it keeps on trying to download from the net. plz help me
[15:55] <charlie-tca> wubi does download fromt the net to get all the current applications and files.
[15:56] <abhifx> charlie-tca, but i used to use wubi with an iso
[15:56] <charlie-tca> Try unplugging the network cable?
[15:57] <abhifx> charlie-tca, then it fails
[15:58] <charlie-tca> Lucid is still alpha. Update the qa tracker and file a bug, then
[15:58] <charlie-tca> please
[15:58] <abhifx> charlie-tca, hmm... ok thx
[15:58] <abhifx> :)
[15:58] <charlie-tca> Todays images are being tested for alpha3
[16:20] <subspider> hey people
[16:21] <subspider> i'm doing these tuto http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_lamp_for_newbies but when try to run the php webpage it's not working why??
[16:21] <subspider> can you guys help me
[16:23] <subspider> lol it's orking forget it
[16:24] <subspider> newbee
[16:27] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello subspider :-)
[16:28] <subspider> hello Sachse_Siechtum  :) how are you man
[16:28] <subspider> charlie-tca, hello man
[16:29] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'm ok-. a bit tired...but just slept 2 hours...got my job application back today....
[16:32] <charlie-tca> Morning, subspider
[16:32] <Sachse_Siechtum> didnt get the job
[16:32] <Sachse_Siechtum> hello charlie-tca
[16:32] <charlie-tca> Morning, Sachse_Siechtum
[16:33] <Sachse_Siechtum> Evening CHarlie-tca *g*
[16:33] <charlie-tca> Evening, Sachse_Siechtum
[16:34] <subspider> you didn't get the job ?? Sachse_Siechtum ??
[16:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> subspider...exactly...well sending applications to other companys....
[16:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> it was a 400 euro job anyway--
[16:35] <subspider> hm ok i wish you the best man
[16:35] <Sachse_Siechtum> thanks. :-)
[16:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> I just like to know, why they didnt take me. :-(
[16:37] <subspider> some times just not luky
[16:37] <Sachse_Siechtum> It was either my appearance or me not having a drivers license...
[16:37] <Sachse_Siechtum> yeah
[16:55] <bj0> booting the xubuntu 10.04 doesn't give me a chance to see the grub menu?
[16:57] <Sachse_Siechtum> strange normally it should come up with a 10 sec. timer..
[16:59] <bj0> all it does is say 'Loading Grub' for about half a second, then boot, i can't inturrupt it
[16:59] <bj0> which is annoying because i need to add 2 kernel boot params or my computer freezes :/
[17:02] <Sachse_Siechtum> hmm dunno much about grub. :-(
[17:02] <bj0> :/
[17:03] <Sachse_Siechtum> maybe some other guys here might be able to help you...
[17:03] <Sysi> !grub2
[17:03] <Sysi> try if there's anything
[17:04] <bj0> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT
[17:04] <bj0> hmm i wonder if thats it
[17:19] <charlie-tca> bj0: to see the grub on boot, change in /etc/default/grub the line GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 to #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[17:20] <charlie-tca> or hit the right-shift during the startup, (I think it is right shift, could be esc in 9.10)
[17:23] <bj0> i tried esc, but not right shift
[17:28] <charlie-tca> lucid is different
[17:29] <charlie-tca> I think it is right shift in it, but it only works part time
[17:41] <bj0> yea i was spamming it and it didnt' work
[17:41] <bj0> oh well, i already booted off a live cd and edit my grub.cfg
[18:37] <sealive> hi from germany i just installt xubuntu 8,04,1
[18:37] <sealive> after i putet a Wlan pcmcia in the nenue disapeart?
[18:37] <sealive> please help me
[18:38] <Sysi> ahem, it's bit hard to me to follow your writing
[18:38] <sealive> sorry i'am german
[18:39] <Sachse_Siechtum> after he put in a pcmcia card the menu disappeard?
[18:39] <Sachse_Siechtum> sealive schreib mir ich übersetz es
[18:39] <sealive> geht schon!
[18:39] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok :-)
[18:39] <sealive> i can press strg+alt+f2
[18:39] <sealive> for a terminal
[18:40] <sealive> but a reeboot did not solve the problem
[18:42] <charlie-tca> !panel | sealive
[18:42] <charlie-tca> That will bring the menu back
[18:42] <sealive> i try one moment.
[18:45] <sealive> gtk-warning canot open display
[18:45] <sealive> do i have to do this under sudo?
[18:46] <charlie-tca> not supposed to have to
[18:47] <charlie-tca> you have a desktop, right?
[18:47] <sealive> no a labtop compaq armada500
[18:48] <sealive> or do you nean the desktop view
[18:48] <charlie-tca> What part is missing, the menu only? or the whole top panel?
[18:48] <sealive> the hole top panel
[18:48] <charlie-tca> yes, I mean the desktop view.
[18:48] <charlie-tca> Okay.
[18:49] <sealive> i saw a desktop view with the icons of the disket and the filesystem
[18:49] <charlie-tca> click on this link, it is in english. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels#One%20Panel%20Disappeared
[18:49] <charlie-tca> It should help you to get the panel and menu back
[18:50] <charlie-tca> Just type the things on the left side
[18:50] <sealive> thanks!
[18:50] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[19:00] <sealive> can i restart the system by< pressing som key
[19:01] <sealive> or do i have to open a terminal and then reeboot
[19:02] <sealive> it workd out back we are
[19:02] <charlie-tca> There is a button in the top left of the panel to click on
[19:03] <charlie-tca> then you can click on restart
[19:03] <charlie-tca> no
[19:03] <charlie-tca> top right of the panel
[19:03] <knome> charlie-tca, tchuss :)
[19:03] <sealive> XD
[19:03] <charlie-tca> The last button on the right of the top panel should be the quit/restart
[19:04] <charlie-tca> knome: I give directions to drive the same way
[19:04]  * charlie-tca uses driver side and other way
[19:05] <knome> ;)
[19:06] <sealive> after the restart there where lost again
[19:08] <sealive> ok i do now now how to bring them up
[19:09] <charlie-tca> Make sure to click the line "save session" when you restart. It should be in the window with all the buttons
[19:12] <sealive> its checkt i will restart ones more
[19:18] <sealive> yes that fixt it
[19:20] <sealive> next problem to face.The driver for my pcmcia card is missing! lspcmcia says no driver.. wiki says out of the box ! the card wars not in the labtop during installation driver is air-cs
[19:20] <sealive> can i reinstall this from the dasktop
[19:20] <sealive> or out of the alternatet cd
[19:25] <charlie-tca> fron the desktop if you have an internet connection
[19:26] <charlie-tca> I am no good for wireless
[19:27] <sealive> sudo tail -f /var/log/messages
[19:27] <sealive> i ejektet it and reinsert it
[19:28] <sealive> pcmcia0,0 registert
[19:28] <sealive> airo() probing
[19:28] <sealive> airo() finisht
[19:29] <sealive> coudt not parse base and rmask0 of cis
[19:30] <sealive> the wiki says to use wirth airo-cs
[19:33] <sealive> witch editor is on xubuntu sudo gedit does not work?
[19:33] <charlie-tca> use mousepad
[19:34] <charlie-tca> sudo mousepad or gksu mousepad
[19:35] <eXpl0i7> you can install gedit
[19:37] <sealive> from where
[19:37] <sealive> alternated cd?
[19:38] <sealive> ok for me it works mousepad
[19:38] <sealive> i edited /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[19:41] <eXpl0i7> sudo apt-get install gedit
[19:44] <sealive> with no internet its not working
[19:50] <sealive> ok G8 good night
[19:50] <sealive> trying to fix it tommorow
[19:50] <sealive> now watchin next gold maybe for the germans!
[20:31] <yesitisjustme> anyone been able to get there 3g card to work on xubuntu?
[20:58] <HiHo> Anyone bird-dog ways to minimize memory/processes on xubuntu. Have 256M only. (ie turn off kernel resident - bluetooth ...)
[21:01] <charlie-tca> use midori instead of firefox
[21:05] <jc0694> anybody have a recommendaation for a java virtual machine.  i want to play paxnora and it requires java vm.
[21:05] <HiHo> Thanks, I'll look at midori, see how it works with proxies.
[21:07] <TheSheep> jc0694: sun-java6-jre
[21:07] <TheSheep> jc0694: and sun-java6-plugin if you want to play it in browser
[21:08] <jc0694> tq
[21:11] <subspider> hey guys i need to fix my cam it's working but i see my self up side down lol
[21:11] <subspider> how can i fix these
[21:12] <TheSheep> !camera
[21:12] <TheSheep> ubottu, where art thou?
[21:13] <TheSheep> !webcam