[00:00] Is there an easy way to get an alert when a particular package is updated in the repo's? [00:04] Bugsbane, yeah, sudo apt-get update , to check [00:06] BluesKaj-Laptop: haha. Problem is the package wopn't install atm. That's why I want to know when it's updated [00:08] I'd rather not be trying sudo apt-get install koffice-kde4 every single day for months [00:14] does dpkg-recongigure xserver-xorg not work in lucid? [00:14] no, just update period , if there is one, it will come down the pipe [00:15] Technoviking, which graphics card? [00:15] nvidia [00:16] was testing noeveua driver and no it is messed up [00:16] nvidia , model #? [00:16] 9400m gs [00:16] you should be installing the 195 version from the ppa [00:16] which ppa? [00:18] BluesKaj-Laptop: ? [00:22] BluesKaj-Laptop: Were you saying that to me? If so, the problem is that it's not installed in the first place and has broken deps so I can't install it. That's why update isn't going to tell me about it... [00:23] So I just need to get some kind of notification when koffice-kde is updated, although it's not installed... [00:24] which I think jriddel said was planned (although he didn't say when) [00:27] Bugsbane, http://www.webupd8.org/2009/08/how-to-install-nvidia-190xx-drivers-in.html [00:30] BluesKaj-Laptop: it is now in the repository [00:30] install it through hardware drivers [00:33] charlie-tca,I hope Bugsbane reads your post...I already have it installed [00:34] ooops [00:34] I installed a couple of days ago, myself [00:35] why is there a distribution upgrade available? I'm running lucid alpha 2. [00:35] alpha 3 is in two days [00:36] one does get tired of helping those who won't help themselves tho ... I mean is so hard to google-linux for answers [00:36] I know [00:36] is it so hard ? [00:36] Kai_: ???? [00:36] Seems to be almost impossible, doesn't it? [00:36] BUGabundo: hi! [00:37] what are you seeing? [00:37] then again I update every 4h [00:37] so its long gone A2 [00:37] well, it does include the rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store package and others [00:37] so it looks a lot like alpha 3 === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [00:42] * BluesKaj-Laptop wonders what alpha 3 is supposed to look like [00:49] oh no, my laptop overheated. [00:59] BluesKaj-Laptop: Erm, I was talking about Koffice... I'm on an ATI card :) [01:24] liveCD now has support for TORAM \o/ === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [01:32] almost done with the distribution upgrade :D === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [02:36] Hello, I am running Lucid in vbox, and added my shared folders in fstab, but I have to make it noauto, or else boot process stops at mounting [02:36] hiya [02:43] I just did a distribution upgrade and now Firefox is dead. Here's something it says: Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'firefox-bin' received an X Window System error. [02:44] I even purged it and reinstalled... no luck [02:45] what ver of firefox u using? [02:46] 3.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu5 [02:46] abrowser also has the same problem. [02:46] perhaps it's something to do with xul === Kai_ is now known as Kaj_ [02:48] I'm having a goofy issue with lcd brightness. Sometimes I get TRIPLE brightness events, sometimes double. disabling gnome-power-manager and setting brightness_in_hardware recudes it to one, but if I only do one or the other, I still get two. [02:49] any thoughts on how I can just get gnome-power-manager to manage my brightness? I'd even be ok with just bios managing it. I'm on a Dell mini 1012 [02:53] hmm, do you know if you have anything that needs HAL? if not, try removing "hal". [02:53] Intel graphics, right? That should have backlight support in xrandr -- and thus not need hal. [02:54] Indeed, intel graphics. I tried removing hal. It killed my synaptics touchpad (but some udev additions I pulled from the interbutts got it working again) [02:54] alas, I still had the same issue with brightness. [02:54] Apparantly dell has some goofy thing on many systems that control brightness with the hardware keys in addition to the acpi events. [02:55] (maybe) [02:56] Is there a way to fool gnome-power-manager into sending events to a dummy acpi event thinger and just let the dell thingg actually change the brightness? GPM seems to still SEE the events, going so far as to show the double changes. [02:56] I still want it to be able to dim the screen automagically, so it seems unlikely [02:57] hmm, the "video" parameter has a "brightness_switch_enabled" parameter [02:57] try sudo modprobe -r video; sudo modprobe video brightness_switch_enabled=0 [02:58] modprobe -r video fails because it's in use by the intel driver [02:58] but I'll try adding those params to the module [02:58] I'm not sure what the default is. [02:59] in /etc/modules, right? modprobe video brightness_switch_enabled=0? [02:59] you can also try killing g-p-m and starting it with --verbose in console. [02:59] Actually, it's "options" when in one of those files. [03:00] video options brightness_switch_enabled=0 or...? [03:01] options video brightness_switch_enabled=0 [03:02] cool. Thanks DanaG. Also, i noticed before, blacklisting video didn't work, even in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf. any idea why? [03:02] in /etc/modprobe.d/*.conf [03:03] hmm, probably because "intel" explicitly depends on it. [03:03] so it'll load it even if it's blacklisted? [03:03] I have to say, other than the brightness issue and the touchpad being a little strange, this little guy is a hell of a linux machine. [03:04] I'm moving away from Windows 7 because it seems to like dropping network connections randomly [03:04] tntc: check if your access points can handle wireless power savings. [03:05] My school's APs can't.... and thus can be flaky sometimes. [03:05] the win7 troubleshooter told me that. [03:05] Anyway, my brightness control issue on radeon is worse: hotkeys show OS but don't change brightness. [03:05] DanaG: bah. it's not just wireless. This is on every win7 machine I've owned. Including wired connections. [03:05] it keeps setting the level to the same number over and over. [03:06] hmm, maybe you have bad karma? =þ [03:06] DanaG: if you echo a number directly into brightness, does it work? [03:06] DanaG: hehe :) Maybe, but I'm not the only one with bad karma then. [03:06] Yeah, and in fact, even the brightness applet works... as long as HAL is installed. [03:06] Remove HAL... no brightness control at all. [03:06] DanaG: guh. that's stinks. perhaps a module not getting autoloaded by HAL? [03:07] similiar to my touchpad issue? [03:07] My issue seems to be that radeon doesn't support BACKLIGHT in xrandr. === Kaj_ is now known as Kai_ [03:54] my sound is kinda fuzzy, is there a mixer for pulse audio? [04:01] We are currently at Alpha 3 now, right? [04:17] syn-ack: 25th innit? [04:17] arand: I was told there was a 3 day push back on the release [04:18] I had checked the timeline lastnight and it said today, must have been a last minute decision to hold off on it [04:18] although currrent state probably going to be whats in the alpha, yea, but the freze isn't that hard I think.. [04:19] release schedule has always said a4 on 25th [04:20] we're barely going to be in a3 [04:20] my sound is kinda fuzzy, is there a mixer for pulse audio? [04:20] arand: I think a 3-day pushback. [04:20]

Ok, so I'm NOT nuts [04:20] just got the freeze announcement this morning [04:20] which mentioned a schedule delay :) [04:20] so no, you probably correctly marked your calendar [04:20] LADmaticCA: sure is. Are you in Gnome XFCE or what? [04:20] syn-ack, gnome [04:21] LADmaticCA: right click on the speaker in your tray and select Properties [04:21] syn-ack, my speaker is missing in the tray [04:22] oh noes [04:23] Anybody happen to know the cli command for the sound properties? I run Xubuntu and I nuked my Ubuntu VM for a dailies install about 20 mins ago [04:23] I don't remember it right off hand [04:24] ah, there it is. gnome-volume-control [04:25] syn-ack, thanks. I was hoping for a pcm adjustment though [04:29] LADmaticCA: check the properties. I *think* you may be able to select it [04:30] syn-ack, thanks. Fixed it. Apparently the volume was just set too high [04:30] ;) [05:15] anyone else in here having hard locks still? it's getting annoying really fast [05:17] voidmage, i had my 1st hard lock today - running since the beginning of the month (was playing Doom 1 at the time) [05:18] mm [05:18] someone running lucid can pastebin a file for me? Please go to /usr/share/apport/package-hooks/ [05:18] i keep thinking they go away [05:18] then they come back [05:18] and copy the source_audio.py to a pastebin [05:19] nigelb, that file doesn't exist on my system? sorry. [05:19] ZykoticK9: ugh! its got to be there somewhere [05:19] ZykoticK9: try in symptoms folder [05:20] nigelb, symptoms folder? is that in a different location? [05:20] it would be in /usr/share/apport [05:20] symptoms has a audio.py [05:20] ZykoticK9: that was another hard lock [05:20] :P [05:21] (if i quit, it's probably because i hard locked) [05:21] nigelb, "locate source_audio.py" shows nothing [05:22] ZykoticK9: its the audio.py I want [05:24] nigelb, http://pastebin.com/xZ2vaYUS - sorry Ubuntu's pastebin not resolving for my right now [05:24] ZykoticK9: thanks a lot :) [05:24] * nigelb hugs ZykoticK9 :) [05:24] lol [05:25] yeah... [05:25] this is only /kind of/ annoying [05:35] i'm practically on edge here, if it even looks like it's locked up i'm already reaching for the reset button [05:35] :| [05:38] HI i am installing Ubuntu 10.4 After creating The partitions I get error of OUT OF RANGE in my asus Moniter but in 9.10 its solved By pressing alt ctrl + But it doesnt work in ubuntu 10.4 the lucid How can i Solve this problam [05:41] Anyone there [05:41] trying to [05:41] but i keep crashing [05:41] :P [05:41] e3as, i'm affraid i really don't know - can you choose Safe Graphics mode or something like that? [05:42] it doesn't work i tried it [05:42] e3as, what gfx card are you using? [05:42] Zykotick9 NVDIA [05:42] gforce [05:43] NVIDIA [05:43] e3as, well then i really don't know - never had any problem with Nvidia before... [05:44] I had this problam also with 9.10 ubuntu but it was solved by pressing alt ctrl + while error but the same does'nt work in ubuntu 10.4 [05:45] e3as, you might want to file a bug -- that's all the advice "I" can give... sorry. Keep asking in the channel (not too often), perhaps someone else will have something better [05:49] zykotick9 ok [05:53] there we go [05:53] had to boot into recovery mode, run nvidia-bug-report.sh and copy the file to my home directory, and run ubuntu-bug with elinks [05:53] but i finally reported the bug without hard locking in the process [05:54] power applet is not showing any drop down when clicked [05:54] Hi I get error of OUT OF RANGE in My ASUS Moniter While Installing Ubuntu 10.4 How can i Solve it [05:55] any one else facing this [05:57] Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [05:59] CAn Anyone Solve My prob of OUT OF RANGE [05:59] HElp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 [05:59] e3as, use stable release [06:00] !help [06:00] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [06:00] om26er I want to use 10.4 the new one [06:00] e3as, its not released [06:01] om26er I downloaded it and it work in vmware [06:01] e3as, its the development release if ubuntu and development releases have bug many bugs [06:02] Its ok i vmware but only the prob is that on viewsonic moniter its installed but not on ASUS [06:05] ahaa just updated rhythmbox and now next/previous buttons are greyed out in indicator application menu [06:06] om26er Cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!! [07:25] Hey guys, what time is the release tomorrow? [08:29] hi, [08:29] any one having issues with adding channels to favorite in Xchat [08:49] bom dia === yofel_ is now known as yofel [09:25] morning folks, back again [09:25] hey yofel [09:25] wb [09:25] what have you been up too? [09:26] BUGabundo_remote: helping a friend moving, took the whole of last week [09:36] you guys moved the all house on your back or something [09:37] haha, nope, but there was some renovation work to be done first and moving from Stuttgart to Berlin (~600km) takes a while ;) [09:39] right [09:39] well, glad to have you back [09:39] so, gdm / plymouth bug still going, [09:39] nvidia blob working and so is nouveua [09:40] gtk slow down almost fixed [09:40] its fixed release but not as fast as it was prior to bug [09:40] but at least I can see the keyboard keep up with me now! [09:40] audio bugs seems stable, grub strangeness fixed too [09:41] lots of changes in indicatores [09:41] other then that you are good to go, yofel [09:41] !test [09:41] hrm? [09:43] BUGabundo_remote: thx [09:43] welcome mister new Member vish [09:43] BUGabundo_remote: ;p [09:46] BUGabundo_remote: are you still getting the keyring freeze? [09:46] now i only get it once per system start [09:47] it improved a bit after the second git update [09:56] indicator for rhythmbox still bugged no? [10:12] vish: none since I removed plymouth :p [10:16] weird [10:52] HowTo reconfigure to choose an initrd with customized module selection rather than generic? [10:55] edakiri: not sure if it's the best way, but you could add them to '/etc/initramfs-tools/modules' [10:56] run update-initramfs and the modules you want should be included [10:57] maybe reconfigure update-initramfs is what i am looking for. I am looking to change the choice made at installation whether to use custom or generic initrd [11:05] the battery icon is broken on my laptop [11:06] Damascene, confirmed. [11:06] is there a bug? [11:06] no [11:06] *not that I know of [11:06] I think there should be a special section in launchpad for testers [11:07] y [11:07] Damascene, if you report the power manager bug please give me the link too [11:08] om26er, its form the power manager or from the icon set? [11:08] Damascene, ok, explain the problem you are facing [11:10] the icons shows as black rectangle [11:10] Damascene, mine is this http://imagebin.org/86310 [11:10] what theme you are using? [11:11] Damascene, human [11:12] mine is clearlook and the icon has no battery [11:12] I switched to human and then I've the battery icon [11:13] what is your problem exactly [11:13] Damascene, the problem you are facing is reported already let me find it for you [11:14] thank you [11:16] Damascene, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/525295 [11:16] Launchpad bug 525295 in indicator-sound "Lucid volume icons are not shown. Displays the "unknown icon" instead" [Low,Confirmed] [11:16] and mine https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-applet/+bug/526747 [11:16] Launchpad bug 526747 in indicator-applet "battery applet popup is empty" [Undecided,Triaged] [11:21] well for me there is no sound icon at all and the battery is broken on clearlook [11:21] http://imagebin.org/86312 [11:22] om26er, did you notice how hard is to edit picture in une [11:23] Damascene, never tried [11:23] I just wanted to crop the full screen image but it took 10 minutes [11:24] no [11:24] its simple [11:24] how? [11:25] open fspot, open the image you want to edit select the area of image and click crop . it will be saved in /home/username/Pictures/xxx [11:26] aha, why there is no save buttons in fspot [11:26] you didn't mention that you have to import the picture too first [11:27] "open the image you want to edit" = impott [11:27] import [11:28] any way I suggest opening a bug to request a simple way [11:29] do you have problem with adding channel to favorite in xchat [11:29] Damascene, open it upstream against f-sport [11:30] that is the problem I should register with what ever f-spot bug system have [11:30] Damascene, I last set favourite channel when I install xchat and working fine [11:30] can you try it now, please [11:31] what ever I add to my favorite from now on it doesn't get saved [11:31] xchat website suggest that its last version was released 11-Jun-2008 === sagaci_ is now known as sagaci === kermiac is now known as kermiac_ === BUGabundo_remote is now known as BUGabundo_lunch [12:11] didnt someone file a bug on "frequncy out of range"? [12:14] frequency even [12:21] anyone having problems with a sandisk cruzer USB key? Mine is no longer recognized, only the built in CD image [12:28] Has anybody running Lucid Lynx experienced any issues with java plugin for mozilla browsers? I mean is there anybody who has seen it working? [12:31] rye: I've never had icedtea plugin work in years [12:32] penguin42, I had it working, just before upgrade to Lucid, which is not that great since my banks' software requires it :) [12:32] rye: Before the upgrade were you using icedtea or Sun's Java? [12:33] penguin42, i believe that was sun java, and I still have it installed, but that seems to be ignored by my firefox [12:33] ah well if you still have Sun Java then you probably need to just find out where any other plugin is hooked in - if you go to about:plugins what do you see? [12:34] penguin42, flash, vlc, wmv through totem, divx web player through totem, quicktime, and itunes via rhytmbox [12:35] qt is via totem as well [12:35] hmm but no Java? [12:35] can someone please run uname -a and post the output for me [12:35] i have multiple plugins [12:35] java works fine here [12:35] directories [12:35] gnomefreak, ok, then this is local issue [12:39] rhythmbox now says after todays update The Ubuntu One Music Store is coming soon! [12:39] gnomefreak, could you please tell me what plugin you are using for java from about:config page? i mean the File name [12:41] rye: one minute [12:43] rye: http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4938/javam.png [12:43] be back in a few [12:43] ok, great, gnomefreak, thanks! will try icedtea... [12:44] rye: actually firefox ignores the sun java plugin here too [12:44] yofel, hm... [12:44] icedtea works, but I'm not quite happy with it [12:46] yofel, i will be quite happy if it allows me to use my bank's interface, otherwise I will start filing a lot of bug reports:) [12:47] "Start: applet not initialized." This is not good [12:50] rtg@buzz:~$ sudo apt-cache policy sun-java6-bin [12:50] sun-java6-bin: [12:50] Installed: 6-16-0ubuntu1.9.04 [12:50] Candidate: 6-16-0ubuntu1.9.04 [12:50] Version table: [12:50] *** 6-16-0ubuntu1.9.04 0 [12:50] 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status [12:51] hm... [12:51] anyone tried the xi2 multiple input with the ubuntu 10.04 ? it ROCKS [12:52] I'm using it on an eeepc and let me tell you it is so smooth [12:52] rye that is not the icedtea package as i recall sun-jave packages are fairly useless and are not used in Lucid (some are but not what you want) [12:53] gnomefreak, yes, indeed - this is a left-over from my 9.04 installation I believe, but the problem is icedtea plugin does not work properly... [12:54] * rye went to sun.com to grab latest oracle java [12:54] rye: well that doesnt help you :) [12:54] I've noticed a problem tho, when I connect another monitor, I can't move the panels to the new monitor, anyone knows a fix for this? [12:55] I'm not using mirror monitors, just an extension [12:55] rye ii icedtea-6-jre and ii icedtea6-plugin i have those installed and no problems [12:56] gnomefreak, try going to https://online.piraeusbank.com and click the second link which states "Стандартный клиент" (Standard client) - in my case the applet fails to initialize :) [12:58] rye: that link in no good [12:58] gnomefreak, sorry, https://online.piraeusbank.ua/ [12:59] rye: https://online.piraeusbank.ua/login.jsp seems to work fine [12:59] rye: try going to java.com [13:00] gnomefreak, so... after clicking on the second link the applet gets downloaded and you seel multiple input fields, right? [13:01] rye: opps i clicked first link :( [13:02] rye: it just crashed firefox damnit [13:02] gnomefreak, oops, sorry about that :( [13:03] rye: its ok im working on something anyway and dont need browser atm === BUGabundo_lunch is now known as BUGabundo_remote [13:07] hiyas [13:08] is it my ISP or is the lucid main server slower than molasses in january ? [13:09] fast here [13:12] must be throttling to north america then [13:44] Starting with Firefox 3.6, Java-based applications will NOT work unless you are running Java version 6 Update 10 or newer. - http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/firefox_newplugin.xml?jre=1.4.2_xx . Great, I have _18, now what? [13:48] YES! [13:48] so, 1. it is broken in lucid, but 2. it can be fixed [13:48] by instaling sun java [13:48] rye lucid will not have Sun JAVA [13:49] it was dropped a few weeks [13:49] BUGabundo_remote, that's great, I will not have money :), since the bank ui uses it to perform transfers and authorize me via private key [13:49] no worries [13:49] Ubuntu is FREE [13:49] :p [13:49] rye: please file a bug against java [13:50] gnomefreak, yes, I am going to [13:50] rye: thanks [13:50] BUGabundo_remote, while ubuntu is free, internets and foods are not, but I can't file a bug to make free internet access and free food, it seems to be WONTFIX [13:55] sun java plugin that needs to be fed to ff is called libnpjp2.so, if someone needs that [13:56] any sane reason for removing sun java, by the way? [13:56] i suppose i can understand making openjre the default, but removing it entirely is a nuissance [13:57] openjre does not have the plugin [13:59] the icedtea plugin is in repos at least [13:59] yeh it's icedtea6-plugin === maco2_ is now known as maco2 === Nitsuga is now known as Guest4961 === Guest4961 is now known as Nitsuga === gnomefreak76 is now known as gnomefreak [15:28] when is the alpha 3 releasing? [15:29] 25th [15:29] arand, so thats... today.. right? [15:29] 24th today [15:30] No tomorrow is the 25th [15:30] ahahahaahahahah [15:30] ah.... [15:30] ok [15:30] timzones :D [15:30] Admin__: just get a daily [15:30] then zsinc [15:30] !schedule [15:30] A schedule of Lucid Lynx (10.04) release milestones can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule [15:30] arand: Btw, what features can we expect except from more stable and faster bootup and ARM mobile platforms? :P I have checked blueprints, but I want to know inside info :D [15:31] BUGabundo_remote, i hav a superslow connection... daily builds are hard to download [15:31] Admin__: daily == tomorrow :D [15:31] that's what I said: get a daily then zsync only the diff [15:32] let me see how much I'm old [15:32] BUGabundo_remote, :) [15:32] * BUGabundo_remote does $zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/lucid-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync [15:32] disk IO FT losers :) [15:32] BUGabundo_remote, daily gets erased after few days... alpha remain for longer period [15:33] $ sudo ionice -c3 -p 26578 [15:33] much better [15:33] Admin__: who cares?? [15:33] hm, is zsync much better than rsync BUGabundo_remote? [15:33] Read lucid-desktop-amd64.iso. Target 77.0% complete. [15:33] yofel: on canonical servers: YES [15:34] on my machine: HELL NO [15:34] ###############----- 78.2% 98.0 kBps 26:49 ETA [15:34] heh, then I'll try it out later [15:34] yofel: want my script? [15:34] BUGabundo_remote: sure [15:34] damn thanks for reminding me :) [15:34] Admin__: Hmm, some more panel bling, TORAM now possible with liveCD, Bi.. I mean Yahoo search, Ireally haven't tested that much actually.. [15:34] $ pastebinit ~/zsyncu [15:34] http://paste.ubuntu.com/383049/ [15:35] using zsync now? [15:35] arand: toram? SInCE WHEN? [15:35] thx BUGabundo_remote [15:35] gnomefreak: since crimsun made me :| [15:35] * BUGabundo_remote is a good boy, is a good boy, is a good boy! [15:36] arand: my bug for it wasn't updated! [15:36] why the change? [15:36] gnomefreak: less server load [15:36] much less [15:36] BUGabundo_remote: couple of days: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/25496/comments/36 [15:36] Launchpad bug 25496 in casper "Unable to boot Ubuntu using TORAM=yes (copy livecd to RAM)" [Wishlist,Fix released] [15:36] oh [15:36] arand, i didint get u? [15:37] Admin__: What? [15:37] arand: DUPE [15:37] arand, Hmm, some more panel bling, TORAM now possible with liveCD, Bi.. I mean Yahoo search, Ireally haven't tested that much actually.. [15:37] BUGabundo_remote: is that the full script? [15:39] Admin__: yes? I'm unclear? [15:39] arand, yeah.. :) [15:40] gnomefreak: not a script per si [15:41] just a bunch of lines I paste to certain dirs [15:41] kubutnu and ubuntu can't share same dirs cause of the names [15:41] other then that, sure, just run that [15:43] Admin__: ok, so the applets in the panel will have even more empathy-facebook-twitter integration, it's now possible to copy the liveCD to ram and run it from there, being able to remove the CD. Yahoo will be default search engine. Oh, and Software Centre has gotten a featured section and ability to display added PPAs, as well as an install button on the main listing... [15:46] Yahoo as default search engine I noticed, and fixed. :-\ [15:46] Why we would want to sponsor Microsoft as a default search engine is bizzare. [15:47] no comments [15:47] NoelJB: because canonical gets some money from it iirc [15:47] no comments [15:49]