[00:33] hggdh: do you know what matthiaz was looking for with bughugger? [00:34] bdmurray: no, I do not [00:34] cjohnston: pong [00:36] grep bughugger === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [00:40] bdmurray: is there a PPA for bughugger? [00:40] for karmic [00:41] hggdh: if you get 10-15 free minutes tomorrow, I need to talk to you about your session on friday.. :-) [00:43] bcurtiswx: I think ppa:bughuggers/bughugger [00:47] hi everybody! what to do with this bugs that has been closed, and reopened and ... they are a jam: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/500417 [00:47] Launchpad bug 500417 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "nautilus doesn't honor gnome theme (affects: 4) (dups: 1)" [Low,New] [00:48] this was marked as ivalid, incomplete, new, incomplete again, invalid and... who knows what other thing :D [00:48] bcurtiswx: I don't think I made one [00:48] micahg gave a valid PPA.. although im having problem with bughugger [00:49] hey anyone remember the bug# for gnome-panel having duplicate icons in lucid? [00:49] tara brady.. just joined and assigned themselves to oa report [00:50] i hope its not another "misguided" individual [00:51] bcurtiswx: IIRC, Rick had a ppa for bughugger [00:52] bcurtiswx: http://ppa.launchpad.net/rick-rickspencer3/ppa/ubuntu [00:56] cjohnston: OK [00:56] hggdh: that version is severely outdated.. (assuming) [00:56] bughugger in lucid is 10.02.1 [00:56] hggdh: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bughuggers/+archive/bughugger [00:57] heh. I guess so. Then there is the bzr bughugger [00:58] micahg: I am confused. The bughugger version I have is 10.2.1, the PPA is 0.61 [00:58] although 10.2.1 sounds very much like 2010-02-01 [00:58] hggdh: PPA is a little behind I guess [00:58] hggdh: lol yeah i saw that too [00:59] yeah, I have .61 [00:59] was pushed last month [00:59] I think they changes the versioning scheme [00:59] so here's the $.64 Q: which one is newer? [01:00] hggdh: the one in lucid I think [01:00] guess so. I hope so [01:00] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bughugger/+changelog [01:00] first push was this month [01:01] yes. Good catch [01:01] i remember trying to backport it but hitting a brick wall [01:10] bughugger depends on quickly-widgets and maybe some other bits [01:11] this was initially a part of the bughugger ppa package but was removed into a separate package [01:11] so getting it running on karmic would be hard yes [01:23] bdmurray: can you please renew my bug control membership? [01:26] Ryan52: is that your lp userid too? [01:28] bdmurray: ryan52 === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [01:33] Please set Bug#384223 as Wishlist. Thank you! [01:33] The link is https://bugs.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/384223 [01:33] Launchpad bug 384223 in gwibber "[wishlist]Extract the tinyurl and get the title of the URL (affects: 4)" [Undecided,New] [01:39] zeroseven0183: you can also say bug 384223 [01:39] Launchpad bug 384223 in gwibber "[wishlist]Extract the tinyurl and get the title of the URL (affects: 4)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/384223 === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [01:54] anyone remember the bug# for gnome-panel having duplicate icons in lucid? [01:54] i can't find it atm [03:05] propose 526672 for wishlist [03:07] #526672 [03:07] bug #526672 [03:07] Launchpad bug 526672 in samba (Ubuntu) "apport hook should provide a Not Applicable choice for all the questions (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526672 [03:08] there we go ubot [03:15] * anzenketh is looking for a way to suppress launchpad messages where I made the edit. [03:17] anzenketh: what do you mean? [03:18] I get emails of things I subscribed to launchpad due to I am waiting for replies but I get a message where the sender says me [03:18] anzenketh: you can use e-mail filters if you'd like [03:19] Ya I have a few setup [03:20] Just rather not get the email and just started using Thunderbird due to evelution does not support port changing. [03:21] anzenketh: ok then [03:23] So I need to collect information about ubiquity due to a bug; but apparently when I run apport-collect and get to the point where it submits the gathered information, it crashes. [03:23] Suggestions? [03:29] What is the app that you are having a issue with? [03:29] Sorry nevermind tierd. [03:29] The bug with Ubiquity is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/526157 [03:29] Launchpad bug 526157 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) ""Invalid username" error when partitioning for installation in Ubiquity (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Incomplete] [03:30] anzenketh: evolution supports port changing, and thunerbird supports filters [03:30] Really I could not find it [03:30] Guess I will have to look harder. I know thunderbird supports filters [03:31] settings accounts, details, recieving (or sending) [03:32] I know it is that way for thunderbird. [03:33] Takyoji: Don't have lucid up yet you are not the first one to say that. [03:33] That was one thing I was going to check [03:37] anzenketh: This was the error message retrieved when apport when after apport crashed. xP [03:37] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/516381 [03:37] Launchpad bug 516381 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport-gtk crashed with --- in _request() (affects: 10) (dups: 2)" [Undecided,Confirmed] [03:37] (almost forgot to paste that) [03:38] all apport did was add "apport-collected" to my bug, rather than upload any attachments (which is probably where it died at) [03:39] Is that exactly what you got? [03:40] If so I would mark the bug as effected by you. [03:41] Which I have done [03:41] is there anything additional that marking it as affecting me does, other than being part of a statistic? :P [03:42] Statistics are important when it comes to bug fixing [03:42] howdy o/ [03:42] If it gave you the link did you try going to that link? [03:42] /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/notification_plugin.so: undefined symbol: menu_create_items [03:42] i'm having issues with 2 plugins in claws-mail [03:42] notification and att_remove [03:42] Hi mohaa did you submit a bug report if so what is the bug report [03:42] is that here that i should adress or to maintainer ? [03:43] You can submit a bug report we will forward it upstream if needed. [03:43] anzenketh_san i did not submit any bug [03:43] yet the maintainer should have noticed that these plugin don't load :D [03:44] or maybe he doesn't use his builds himself :D [03:45] fetchinfo_plugin.so : [03:45] Questa versione di Claws Mail è più nuova della versione con cui il plugin 'Fetchinfo' è stato compilato [03:46] plugins were not updated to new build o_O' [03:46] mohaa: please file a bug report, we will update to upstream as needed [03:49] Working on triaging a few bugs here. Just want a second opinion bug numbers 204742,222523,229277 are duplicates but not the same as 276985 right? [03:51] bug 204742, bug 222523, bug 229277 bug 276985 [03:51] Launchpad bug 204742 in system-config-printer (Ubuntu) "applet.py crashed with ImportError version PNG12_0 not define (dups: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204742 [03:51] Launchpad bug 222523 in pyinotify (Ubuntu) "panel applet crashes on start - ImportError version PNG12_0 not defined in file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222523 [03:51] Launchpad bug 229277 in ubuntu "applet.py crashed with ImportError version PNG12_0 not defined in file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/229277 [03:51] Launchpad bug 276985 in system-config-printer (Ubuntu) "applet.py crashed with ImportError in () undefined symbol: g_key_file_get_boolean" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/276985 [03:54] all of them look different [04:01] What makes 204742,222523,229277 differant? [04:08] nigelb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/claws-mail/+bug/526831 [04:08] Launchpad bug 526831 in claws-mail (Ubuntu) "Claws-mail : plugins built against different parent program (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] [04:10] mohaa: can you translate "Questa versione di Claws Mail è più nuova della versione con cui il plugin 'Fetchinfo' è stato compilato" into english in the bug report [04:10] anzenketh: that's what I explain in the report [04:14] Mohaa can you please edit it to be as clear as possible. Be sure to include as much information as possible. Versions of ubuntu. Versisons of packages actions taken. What you expected what you got. Can you reproduce it and if so how. [04:14] Who what when where why how. [04:15] hmm [04:15] All that information needs to be done before we can do anything close to forwarding it up [04:16] anzenketh: it seems to be some trouble with apport. hold on, checking [04:20] micahg, i'm guessing firefox is supposed to remember the set preferred search engine even if the search bar is taken off the toolbar? [04:20] ddecator: i saw that bug and I'm not sure, I need to ask asac about it [04:21] micahg, sounds good, i also confirmed it on my system with FF 3.7 if that helps at all. want me to mark it confirmed or leave it alone for now? [04:21] ddecator: sure, you can mark confirmed [04:22] anzenketh: yes, the first 3 look similar and the fourth one looks different [04:22] I forgot to look inside the stack trace earlier [04:23] anzenketh: should be OK now ? [04:29] Looks good so far Just need to confirm the bug then I should be able to take the necessary action to get the bug moving. Be sure to subscribe to the bug if you have any questions. [04:29] We have any questions [04:32] Thanks nigelb for confirming that. Nice to know I am getting a handle on figuring out dupes. [04:32] np [04:33] I read somewhere that there is a new program for launchpad coming in lucid? [04:33] huh? [04:33] new program? [04:34] oh, there is something that will provide a list of bugs and allow some basic actions... [04:34] can't remember what it is, but yah i saw that somewhere... [04:34] ah, bug hugger? [04:34] there you go! [04:34] I thought its already there in PPA [04:35] maybe, but i think it will be in the repos for lucid [04:35] hm :) [04:37] ddecator: it is in the repos for lucid and there's an early version in PPa for karmic [04:38] anzenketh, ^ [04:38] seb128 ping bug 526188 [04:38] Launchpad bug 526188 in ubuntu "desktop icons dissapear after press remove safely usb (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526188 [04:39] oops, he's not here [04:50] anyone else think bug 526188 is not actually about the O/S crashing? The OP says "some times like the operative system crash, because the window close and the icons on the desktop just vanish and dont appears again, so in order to see the icons i have to re-start the pc or logoff and then log on." [04:50] Launchpad bug 526188 in ubuntu "desktop icons dissapear after press remove safely usb (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526188 [04:50] so I believe that it's not actually crashing, just losing the icons from the desktop - that's why I assigned it to nautilus [04:51] it's = operating system/ system [04:51] What status do we set duplicate bugs too? [04:52] That is not clear in the documenation. [04:52] anzenketh: if you are sure it is a dupe, you mark it as a dupe [04:52] anzenketh, if you use the launchpad gm scripts, it marks it as "confirmed," but it's not really a big deal [04:53] * nigelb half typed the answer by which time lifeless and ddecator replied [04:53] nigelb, thanks for the effort ;) [04:53] launchpad GM scripts? [04:53] hehe [04:53] anzenketh, yup, you get it via a ppa [04:53] anzenketh, it adds extra features to launchpad when you're in firefox [04:54] grease monkey [04:54] lifeless, right [04:54] let me find the link... [04:54] Thinking of writing my own ppa that will go over a todo list [04:54] Or a checklist [04:54] here you go https://launchpad.net/~gm-dev-launchpad/+archive/ppa [04:55] and now nigelb beat me to it :p [04:55] hehe [04:55] And google beat both of you to it :P [04:55] i recommend disabling the highlighting feature though, it's buggy [04:55] dang... [04:55] google always wins [04:56] ddecator: they didn't win as default search provider for Ubuntu :P [04:56] Got to say triage is adicting. [04:56] micahg, touche, haha [04:56] micahg, did you see that bug about switching to yahoo in firefox where the person thinks it requires a fork of firefox? [04:57] no, which one? [04:58] bug 525373 [04:58] Launchpad bug 525373 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Google search default replaced with Yahoo (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/525373 [04:58] ddecator: I'll take care of this [04:58] micahg, good, i had no idea what to say to them, haha [04:59] ddecator: I'm going to reference the ML posts [04:59] micahg, perfect [04:59] bye bye o/ [05:00] cya mohaa [05:00] The ML posts? [05:01] micahg: that seems like a bug which has a high rant potential [05:01] nigelb: yep, and I'm putting a disclaimer that no discussion will take place in the bugtracker on the issue [05:02] good call [05:02] yes, we should close the bug and request that any discussion can take place in -devel ML [05:03] nigelb: done already [05:03] micahg: great :) [05:04] the last thing we need are more rant bugs [05:04] or spammers [05:10] What I do not understand if they don't like it why don't they change it. [05:11] anzenketh: well, it's a whole discussion, you should read the threads if you're interested: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-January/030065.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-January/030068.html [05:11] there are a few more as well [05:11] micahg: someone opened that thread again recently, I firmly believe its beating a dead horse [05:12] nigelb: yep, nixternal called it such [05:12] wow, why are people so upset? all they have to do is change their homepage and the engine in the toolbar. it's not like they're forced to use it [05:13] Ya I am going though them micahg [05:13] ddecator: it's religious for some [05:13] micahg, -_- [05:13] micahg: the fear is ubuntu search is going to be run my microsoft [05:13] but sabdfl himself said he didn't mind if it was bing and they paid [05:13] Duno perhaps it has to do with the microsoft yahoo deal the DOJ just approved. [05:13] like the whole debate about closed source apps on canonical servers [05:13] I mean what better irony that to have microsoft to pay for linux development [05:14] nigelb: that's one point that someone brought up at the beginning [05:14] micahg: yep [05:14] micahg: I read through those mails and have the positive parts byheart as standard reply to rants ;) [05:15] I actually do not run some distributions because they are too far on the free software side of the spectrum that they make it hard for my system to work because of it. [05:15] anzenketh: Ubuntu tries to strike a good balance with that [05:15] I noticed that is why I continue to run it. [05:16] Free software is good but too much free software is bad for linux. [05:16] micahg: you running lucid? [05:16] nigelb: no [05:16] anzenketh: well, there's free and there's open source [05:16] hm, I need to get hold of the apport audio hook [05:16] anzenketh: all the software in Ubuntu is free, but it's not all open source [05:17] nigelb: ubuntu-bug audio? [05:17] yeah [05:17] well, it may not all be free much longer, in the sense that that software center will have paid apps [05:17] I want to see the source [05:17] Yep I was talking both free as in beer and free as in freedom. I encourage businesses to charge for Linux applications if they feel it is nessesary. [05:19] Also I see the need for closed source drivers sometimes. [05:19] But it really sucks if they stop developing. [05:20] alright folks, as much as i want to stay on and work on more reports, i still have a huge chapter i need to read and write a reflection for, so i need to get off so i can take it seriously, haha, cya later [05:26] micahg: the new audio hook for apport is absolutely wonderful :) [05:27] its a 300-line work of beauty [05:29] micahg: hi.. when you know an issue is with upstream , and you file a bug upstream? when do you open a bug in lp? [05:29] file or found [05:31] vish: it would be nice to open one in LP. [05:31] vish: not sure what you mean [05:31] the next person can know that its a known issue [05:31] and it has been taken care of [05:31] well, depends, kde stuff you wouldn't open in LP anymore [05:32] nigelb: i think it is frustrating ;p , when others know of the bug you are making them read mail for bug report you already know are upstream issues :s [05:32] when others dont know* [05:32] vish: supoosing you open a bug for firefox upstream. [05:33] I'm just a new user, I probably would try to file a bug against ubuntu (since I'm a new user to ubuntu) [05:33] and when I see it being suggested, I realize its a known issue. Otherwise, I opena bug, someone triagers [05:33] we're adding more work [05:33] nigelb: IMO , it should be opened only for bugs you know are still present in the release and need to be addressed in Ubuntu, ie patch needs to be pulled from upstream [05:33] I'd rather have more mails than more work [05:34] more mails is more work ;p [05:34] well, if upstream is working on something, its nice for downstream to know that they are [05:35] vish: yes [05:36] micahg: yes , as in always open bug in lp .. or yes to what i said ? [05:36] vish: yes, if ubuntu is still affected/or should SRU to open a bug [05:36] unless it's KDE [05:36] yeah .. [05:37] micahg: for Bug #526844 , like these , i got sub'd to this bug :( i was wondering what happened :( [05:37] Launchpad bug 526844 in empathy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "MXIT icon missing in the account creation drop down menu (affects: 1)" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526844 [05:37] rather what is happening [05:38] vish: the issue is fixed in lucid? [05:38] and marked as such in the old bug? [05:39] well, my question is what old bug report? [05:40] heh , yeah.. luckily i got a mail for that too , else i would have been wondering as well ;p [05:40] micahg: Bug 437414 [05:40] Launchpad bug 437414 in empathy (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "some protocol icons in create account dropdown menu are missing (affects: 6) (dups: 2)" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/437414 [05:41] k [05:41] you should ask om26er why you got subscribed vish [05:41] om26er: ^ ? [05:43] vish: ah, I'm not sure he read that *you* opened and fixed the upstream bug [05:43] nigelb: hmm? [05:44] vish: must've thought its a new bug and opened it downstream? [05:44] vish, I found you upstream report so subscribed you to know why was that marked fixed but then I changed my mind [05:45] micahg: I've been wanting to ask you something [05:45] om26er: ah , right , but it was not marked fixed , but rather fix committed [05:45] om26er: nigelb: upstream wanted separate bugs for each protocol to fix 437414 .. hence each protocol has a separate bug [05:45] vish: ah [05:46] vish: (congrats on membership btw) [05:46] ty :) [05:46] nigelb: k? [05:47] micahg: when you package stuff, especially backports, how do you decide on the dependencies? [05:47] * om26er had a paper so could not appear on meeting :( [05:48] om26er: also , if you are opening bugs in lp , you are increasing mails for others. and that increases more work for downstream triagers for a known upstream bug... if it is an issue with a stable release it would be more appropriate.. :) [05:48] nigelb: whatever the package needs that's available in the archvie [05:49] micahg: um, my question is more like, how do we figure out what the package needs [05:49] nigelb: what it's compiled against/ships with [05:49] om26er: this bug , you found a bug upstream , but some bugs you open upstream and downstream as well.. [05:49] I've been hell bent on learning packaging and that part has me stumped [05:49] nigelb: more appropriate probably in -motu [05:49] vish, that has now changed. [05:49] yeah [05:49] om26er: changed? [05:50] vish, now I dont open downstream tasks if bug is mine [05:50] good ;) [06:02] om26er: also , when you subscribe one else , it would be easier for the subscribed person to follow the bug when there is a comment about why they were subscribed. :) [06:03] oh.. he's not here :( [06:04] vish: was it you that I was discussing the duplicated icons on gnome-panel bug with (i.e. 2 sound applets)? [06:04] trying to find the original bug # [06:04] kermiac: not sure.. i dont think it was me? was this a recent bug? [06:05] within the last month or so... I can't remember who i was discussing it with [06:05] it was only affecting lucid [06:05] maybe it wasn't you [06:06] kermiac: me [06:06] do you know the original bug # nigelb? I can't remember/ find it [06:06] I'm trying [06:06] ty, I looked but couldn't find it [06:11] sorry, got disconnected [06:11] looks like the only way to get this is to check the logs [06:11] np, thanks for trying nigel_nb :) [06:12] I'll have a look through the chan logs & see if I can find it [06:12] * nigel_nb strikes gold [06:12] bug 439448 [06:12] Launchpad bug 439448 in gnome-panel (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "notification area shows wrong icons. erratic behaviour (affects: 28) (dups: 2)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/439448 [06:13] woot! ty nigel_nb [06:13] :) [06:13] ugh, not the one [06:13] this one's in karmic. the one we talked about was lucid [06:13] oh, the title looked familiar... must've looked at that one around the same time [06:20] kermiac: bang! bug 510509 [06:20] Launchpad bug 510509 in gnome-panel (Ubuntu) "Notification area is glitchy (affects: 1)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/510509 [06:22] excellent, thanks heaps nigel_nb! I've been looking for that on & off all day :) [06:22] kermiac: searching bugs on LP is not really easy. [06:22] yeah, I was using all kinds of keywords searching through gnome-panel bugs, but still couldn't find it [06:24] do you think bug 526511 is the same behaviour as 510509? It seems to be, but the last comment makes me have doubts [06:24] Launchpad bug 526511 in gnome-panel (Ubuntu) "two sound icons in panel following update to Lucid (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526511 [06:25] bug 526737 and bug 526729 was marked invalid by anzenketh they should have been upstreamed please any one let him know if I am not around [06:25] Launchpad bug 526737 in empathy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Add sort by... (affects: 1)" [Wishlist,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526737 [06:25] Launchpad bug 526729 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Add function: Send an E-mail (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526729 [06:25] yea, I saw that one earlier. It should potentially be a dup [06:26] I will upstream the second bug [06:26] yeah, that's what I was thinking too. I'll dupe it. Thanks again for finding the original bug# nigel_nb :) [06:26] kermiac: no problem :) [06:33] om26er: um, wat does that rhythmbox bug mean? [06:34] the next previous buttons being grayed out [06:34] nigel_nb, after update now the next/previous buttons in indicator application menu is greyed out i.e you cannot change track from inidcator application icon of rhythmbox [06:34] om26er: ah [06:46] oops. seems like this is not the same issue. apparently gnome-mixer applet is in the process of being replaced & that's what's causing the issues with no sound applet & duplicate sound applets in lucid [06:48] ohh [06:50] yeah, someone who i thought was a novice bugsquad member duped an issue where there was no applet to the bug report where there are 2 applets. I un-duped these & explained that they appeared to be different issues. I was just told that these issues are all due to the current gnome-mixer applet changes [06:52] * kermiac sighs [06:52] hehe [06:53] oh well, I (obviously) apologised.... live & learn, lol [08:49] bom dia === yofel_ is now known as yofel [09:37] question on how to mark Bug #450606 . which appears to be fixed in lucid but presumably still present in karmic [09:37] Launchpad bug 450606 in thunar-media-tags-plugin (Ubuntu) "Unable to set tags on Ogg files (affects: 1)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/450606 [09:37] is 'fix released' appropriate? [09:39] edakiri: looking, but if it's fixed in lucid then yes [09:39] edakiri: if you want to track the status in karmic please nominate the bug for karmic [09:43] yofel: how? [09:47] edakiri: klick on 'Nominate for release' above the bug description, select karmic and submit [10:38] Is there a way to see what choices were made during installation? [10:55] edakiri: well, if you try to run apt-get and it says that program is not installed, then you know there where some /bad/ choices made =) [10:59] there are a variety of bugs for which afterwards i wish to check or verify what choices i made during installation. what information is loogged or can be logge at present? Is there a document some place about this? [11:34] seb128: ping bug 526188 [11:34] Launchpad bug 526188 in ubuntu "desktop icons dissapear after press remove safely usb (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526188 [11:34] seems likely (to me at least) that the system didn't actually crash, the OP just lost the desktop icons. aren't the desktop icons handled by nautilus? just asking to make sure I get it right next time. [11:36] kermiac: yes [11:36] kermiac, nautilus should autorespawn [11:37] in any case that's rather a support request than a bug [11:37] it has nothing useful for a crash report [11:37] seb128 - autospawn is disabled in karmic isn't it? [11:38] chrisccoulson, let me check, did we do that to workaround the issue when not displaying the background? [11:38] in any case opening a places or running nautilus in alt-f2 should work [11:38] seb128 - yeah, i'm fairly sure we turned off Autorestart in karmic [11:39] still if nautilus crash the bug is useless [11:39] needs to get a stacktrace or use apport [11:39] kermiac: you should probably close the bug and ask the reporter to submit a crash report using apport [11:39] we need a "close this bug it's useless" button [11:39] heh [11:39] ;-) [11:39] ok, np. ty chrisccoulson & seb128 I'll close it & ask to report with apport if they are able to reproduce [11:40] seb128 - and also an "ignore this bug, it's useless" button too ;) [11:40] seb128: alt-f2 is far from intuitive. I can't teach my dad about it :( [11:40] BUGabundo_remote, opening a place from the place menu should be [11:41] BUGabundo_remote: we had to disable autorespawn to please the people that disabled nautilus from drawing the desktop [11:41] else it would just restart itself ;) [11:45] seb128: the gtk bug, its much much better now [11:45] but still not as good as it was before the bug [11:46] BUGabundo_remote, good ;-) [11:46] BUGabundo_remote, are you sure? where did you notice that? [11:46] typing, changing windows [11:46] BUGabundo_remote, is that on your user account? [11:46] or on a guest session? [11:46] you had guest session 3 times faster the one day [11:46] ill do new speed tests on a new guest when I get home [11:46] I think you have a local issue with your account [11:47] which is not due to that csd change [11:47] that _feeling_ is on my regular account === kermiac is now known as kermiac_ [11:49] seb128: on this session, via remote NX : Total time: 46.98 [11:49] eheh [11:49] bit slow :D [11:50] well remote display... [11:50] eheh [11:50] should it matter? [11:50] is this time to render on screen? [11:50] or time to press button [11:51] BUGabundo_remote, rander [11:51] render [11:52] ohh [11:52] ok discard this test then [11:58] anyone know of a bug where the policykit asks to unlock , if we select the option[always unlock when i login]... the keyring does not open ? but rather prompts again.. [11:58] in Lucid* [11:59] vish - thats not policykit [11:59] that's gnome-keyring i think [11:59] compiz is leaking memory i'm gonna run out i wanna report what do i do quick [11:59] chrisccoulson: oh.. that the gnome-keyring? argh! the new keyring is crapping all over me :/ [11:59] ? [12:00] DawnLight: use valgrind [12:01] DawnLight: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valgrind [12:02] vish: don't want to use browser [12:03] can you give me the command or approximately? i'll figure it out and have something useful [12:03] DawnLight: AFAIK , there is no way to do it while it is leaking... you have to start the compiz again , and then run the test.. [12:03]