[00:33] <bdmurray> hggdh: do you know what matthiaz was looking for with bughugger?
[00:34] <hggdh> bdmurray: no, I do not
[00:34] <hggdh> cjohnston: pong
[00:36] <hggdh> grep bughugger
[00:40] <bcurtiswx> bdmurray: is there a PPA for bughugger?
[00:40] <bcurtiswx> for karmic
[00:41] <cjohnston> hggdh: if you get 10-15 free minutes tomorrow, I need to talk to you about your session on friday.. :-)
[00:43] <micahg> bcurtiswx: I think ppa:bughuggers/bughugger
[00:47] <malev> hi everybody! what to do with this bugs that has been closed, and reopened and ... they are a jam: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/500417
[00:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 500417 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "nautilus doesn't honor gnome theme (affects: 4) (dups: 1)" [Low,New]
[00:48] <malev> this was marked as ivalid, incomplete, new, incomplete again, invalid and... who knows what other thing :D
[00:48] <bdmurray> bcurtiswx: I don't think I made one
[00:48] <bcurtiswx> micahg gave a valid PPA.. although im having problem with bughugger
[00:49] <kermiac> hey anyone remember the bug# for gnome-panel having duplicate icons in lucid?
[00:49] <bcurtiswx> tara brady.. just joined and assigned themselves to oa report
[00:50] <bcurtiswx> i hope its not another "misguided" individual
[00:51] <hggdh> bcurtiswx: IIRC, Rick had a ppa for bughugger
[00:52] <hggdh> bcurtiswx: http://ppa.launchpad.net/rick-rickspencer3/ppa/ubuntu
[00:56] <hggdh> cjohnston: OK
[00:56] <bcurtiswx> hggdh: that version is severely outdated.. (assuming)
[00:56] <bcurtiswx> bughugger in lucid is 10.02.1
[00:56] <micahg> hggdh: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bughuggers/+archive/bughugger
[00:57] <hggdh> heh. I guess so. Then there is the bzr bughugger
[00:58] <hggdh> micahg: I am confused. The bughugger version I have is 10.2.1, the PPA is 0.61
[00:58] <hggdh> although 10.2.1 sounds very much like 2010-02-01
[00:58] <micahg> hggdh: PPA is a little behind I guess
[00:58] <bcurtiswx> hggdh: lol yeah i saw that too
[00:59] <micahg> yeah, I have .61
[00:59] <micahg> was pushed last month
[00:59] <micahg> I think they changes the versioning scheme
[00:59] <hggdh> so here's the $.64 Q: which one is newer?
[01:00] <micahg> hggdh: the one in lucid I think
[01:00] <hggdh> guess so. I hope so
[01:00] <micahg> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bughugger/+changelog
[01:00] <micahg> first push was this month
[01:01] <hggdh> yes. Good catch
[01:01] <bcurtiswx> i remember trying to backport it but hitting a brick wall
[01:10] <bdmurray> bughugger depends on quickly-widgets and maybe some other bits
[01:11] <bdmurray> this was initially a part of the bughugger ppa package but was removed into a separate package
[01:11] <bdmurray> so getting it running on karmic would be hard yes
[01:23] <Ryan52> bdmurray: can you please renew my bug control membership?
[01:26] <bdmurray> Ryan52: is that your lp userid too?
[01:28] <Ryan52> bdmurray: ryan52
[01:33] <zeroseven0183> Please set Bug#384223 as Wishlist. Thank you!
[01:33] <zeroseven0183> The link is https://bugs.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/384223
[01:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 384223 in gwibber "[wishlist]Extract the tinyurl and get the title of the URL (affects: 4)" [Undecided,New]
[01:39] <bdmurray> zeroseven0183: you can also say bug 384223
[01:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 384223 in gwibber "[wishlist]Extract the tinyurl and get the title of the URL (affects: 4)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/384223
[01:54] <kermiac> anyone remember the bug# for gnome-panel having duplicate icons in lucid?
[01:54] <kermiac> i can't find it atm
[03:05] <anzenketh> propose 526672 for wishlist
[03:07] <bcurtiswx> #526672
[03:07] <bcurtiswx> bug #526672
[03:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 526672 in samba (Ubuntu) "apport hook should provide a Not Applicable choice for all the questions (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526672
[03:08] <bcurtiswx> there we go ubot
[03:15]  * anzenketh is looking for a way to suppress launchpad messages where I made the edit.
[03:17] <lifeless> anzenketh: what do you mean?
[03:18] <anzenketh> I get emails of things I subscribed to launchpad due to I am waiting for replies but I get a message where the sender says me
[03:18] <bcurtiswx> anzenketh: you can use e-mail filters if you'd like
[03:19] <anzenketh> Ya I have a few setup
[03:20] <anzenketh> Just rather not get the email and just started using Thunderbird due to evelution does not support port changing.
[03:21] <bcurtiswx> anzenketh: ok then
[03:23] <Takyoji> So I need to collect information about ubiquity due to a bug; but apparently when I run apport-collect and get to the point where it submits the gathered information, it crashes.
[03:23] <Takyoji> Suggestions?
[03:29] <anzenketh> What is the app that you are having a issue with?
[03:29] <anzenketh> Sorry nevermind tierd.
[03:29] <Takyoji> The bug with Ubiquity is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/526157
[03:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 526157 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) ""Invalid username" error when partitioning for installation in Ubiquity (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[03:30] <lifeless> anzenketh: evolution supports port changing, and thunerbird supports filters
[03:30] <anzenketh> Really I could not find it
[03:30] <anzenketh> Guess I will have to look harder. I know thunderbird supports filters
[03:31] <lifeless> settings accounts, details, recieving (or sending)
[03:32] <anzenketh> I know it is that way for thunderbird.
[03:33] <anzenketh> Takyoji: Don't have lucid up yet you are not the first one to say that.
[03:33] <anzenketh> That was one thing I was going to check
[03:37] <Takyoji> anzenketh: This was the error message retrieved when apport when after apport crashed. xP
[03:37] <Takyoji> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/516381
[03:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 516381 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport-gtk crashed with --- in _request() (affects: 10) (dups: 2)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[03:37] <Takyoji> (almost forgot to paste that)
[03:38] <Takyoji> all apport did was add "apport-collected" to my bug, rather than upload any attachments (which is probably where it died at)
[03:39] <anzenketh> Is that exactly what you got?
[03:40] <anzenketh> If so I would mark the bug as effected by you.
[03:41] <Takyoji> Which I have done
[03:41] <Takyoji> is there anything additional that marking it as affecting me does, other than being part of a statistic? :P
[03:42] <anzenketh> Statistics are important when it comes to bug fixing
[03:42] <mohaa> howdy o/
[03:42] <anzenketh> If it gave you the link did you try going to that link?
[03:42] <mohaa>  /usr/lib/claws-mail/plugins/notification_plugin.so: undefined symbol: menu_create_items
[03:42] <mohaa> i'm having issues with 2 plugins in claws-mail
[03:42] <mohaa> notification and att_remove
[03:42] <anzenketh> Hi mohaa did you submit a bug report if so what is the bug report
[03:42] <mohaa> is that here that i should adress  or to maintainer ?
[03:43] <anzenketh> You can submit a bug report we will forward it upstream if needed.
[03:43] <mohaa> anzenketh_san i did not submit any bug
[03:43] <mohaa> yet the maintainer should have noticed that these plugin don't load  :D
[03:44] <mohaa> or maybe he doesn't use his builds himself  :D
[03:45] <mohaa> fetchinfo_plugin.so :
[03:45] <mohaa> Questa versione di Claws Mail è più nuova della versione con cui il plugin 'Fetchinfo' è stato compilato
[03:46] <mohaa> plugins were not updated to new build   o_O'
[03:46] <nigelb> mohaa: please file a bug report, we will update to upstream as needed
[03:49] <anzenketh> Working on triaging a few bugs here. Just want a second opinion bug numbers 204742,222523,229277 are duplicates but not the same as 276985 right?
[03:51] <nigelb> bug 204742, bug 222523, bug 229277 bug 276985
[03:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 204742 in system-config-printer (Ubuntu) "applet.py crashed with ImportError version PNG12_0 not define (dups: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204742
[03:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 222523 in pyinotify (Ubuntu) "panel applet crashes on start - ImportError version PNG12_0 not defined in file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222523
[03:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 229277 in ubuntu "applet.py crashed with ImportError version PNG12_0 not defined in file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/229277
[03:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 276985 in system-config-printer (Ubuntu) "applet.py crashed with ImportError in <module>() undefined symbol: g_key_file_get_boolean" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/276985
[03:54] <nigelb> all of them look different
[04:01] <anzenketh> What makes 204742,222523,229277 differant?
[04:08] <mohaa> nigelb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/claws-mail/+bug/526831
[04:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 526831 in claws-mail (Ubuntu) "Claws-mail : plugins built against different parent program (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[04:10] <anzenketh> mohaa: can you translate "Questa versione di Claws Mail è più nuova della versione con cui il plugin 'Fetchinfo' è stato compilato" into english in the bug report
[04:10] <mohaa> anzenketh: that's what I explain in the report
[04:14] <anzenketh> Mohaa can you please edit it to be as clear as possible. Be sure to include as much information as possible. Versions of ubuntu. Versisons of packages actions taken. What you expected what you got. Can you reproduce it and if so how.
[04:14] <anzenketh> Who what when where why how.
[04:15] <mohaa> hmm
[04:15] <anzenketh> All that information needs to be done before we can do anything close to forwarding it up
[04:16] <nigelb> anzenketh: it seems to be some trouble with apport.  hold on, checking
[04:20] <ddecator> micahg, i'm guessing firefox is supposed to remember the set preferred search engine even if the search bar is taken off the toolbar?
[04:20] <micahg> ddecator: i saw that bug and I'm not sure, I need to ask asac about it
[04:21] <ddecator> micahg, sounds good, i also confirmed it on my system with FF 3.7 if that helps at all. want me to mark it confirmed or leave it alone for now?
[04:21] <micahg> ddecator: sure, you can mark confirmed
[04:22] <nigelb> anzenketh: yes, the first 3 look similar and the fourth one looks different
[04:22] <nigelb> I forgot to look inside the stack trace earlier
[04:23] <mohaa> anzenketh: should be OK now ?
[04:29] <anzenketh> Looks good so far Just need to confirm the bug then I should be able to take the necessary action to get the bug moving. Be sure to subscribe to the bug if you have any questions.
[04:29] <anzenketh> We have any questions
[04:32] <anzenketh> Thanks nigelb for confirming that. Nice to know I am getting a handle on figuring out dupes.
[04:32] <nigelb> np
[04:33] <anzenketh> I read somewhere that there is a new program for launchpad coming in lucid?
[04:33] <nigelb> huh?
[04:33] <nigelb> new program?
[04:34] <ddecator> oh, there is something that will provide a list of bugs and allow some basic actions...
[04:34] <ddecator> can't remember what it is, but yah i saw that somewhere...
[04:34] <nigelb> ah, bug hugger?
[04:34] <ddecator> there you go!
[04:34] <nigelb> I thought its already there in PPA
[04:35] <ddecator> maybe, but i think it will be in the repos for lucid
[04:35] <nigelb> hm :)
[04:37] <micahg> ddecator: it is in the repos for lucid and there's an early version in PPa for karmic
[04:38] <ddecator> anzenketh, ^
[04:38] <kermiac> seb128 ping bug 526188
[04:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 526188 in ubuntu "desktop icons dissapear after press remove safely usb (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526188
[04:39] <kermiac> oops, he's not here
[04:50] <kermiac> anyone else think bug 526188 is not actually about the O/S crashing? The OP says "some times like the operative system crash, because the window close and the icons on the desktop just vanish and dont appears again, so in order to see the icons i have to re-start the pc or logoff and then log on."
[04:50] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 526188 in ubuntu "desktop icons dissapear after press remove safely usb (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526188
[04:50] <kermiac> so I believe that it's not actually crashing, just losing the icons from the desktop - that's why I assigned it to nautilus
[04:51] <kermiac> it's = operating system/ system
[04:51] <anzenketh> What status do we set duplicate bugs too?
[04:52] <anzenketh> That is not clear in the documenation.
[04:52] <lifeless> anzenketh: if you are sure it is a dupe, you mark it as a dupe
[04:52] <ddecator> anzenketh, if you use the launchpad gm scripts, it marks it as "confirmed," but it's not really a big deal
[04:53]  * nigelb half typed the answer by which time lifeless and ddecator replied
[04:53] <ddecator> nigelb, thanks for the effort ;)
[04:53] <anzenketh> launchpad GM scripts?
[04:53] <nigelb> hehe
[04:53] <ddecator> anzenketh, yup, you get it via a ppa
[04:53] <ddecator> anzenketh, it adds extra features to launchpad when you're in firefox
[04:54] <lifeless> grease monkey
[04:54] <ddecator> lifeless, right
[04:54] <ddecator> let me find the link...
[04:54] <anzenketh> Thinking of writing my own ppa that will go over a todo list
[04:54] <anzenketh> Or a checklist
[04:54] <nigelb> here you go https://launchpad.net/~gm-dev-launchpad/+archive/ppa
[04:55] <ddecator> and now nigelb beat me to it :p
[04:55] <nigelb> hehe
[04:55] <anzenketh> And google beat both of you to it :P
[04:55] <ddecator> i recommend disabling the highlighting feature though, it's buggy
[04:55] <ddecator> dang...
[04:55] <ddecator> google always wins
[04:56] <micahg> ddecator: they didn't win as default search provider for Ubuntu :P
[04:56] <anzenketh> Got to say triage is adicting.
[04:56] <ddecator> micahg, touche, haha
[04:56] <ddecator> micahg, did you see that bug about switching to yahoo in firefox where the person thinks it requires a fork of firefox?
[04:57] <micahg> no, which one?
[04:58] <ddecator> bug 525373
[04:58] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 525373 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Google search default replaced with Yahoo (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/525373
[04:58] <micahg> ddecator: I'll take care of this
[04:58] <ddecator> micahg, good, i had no idea what to say to them, haha
[04:59] <micahg> ddecator: I'm going to reference the ML posts
[04:59] <ddecator> micahg, perfect
[04:59] <mohaa> bye bye o/
[05:00] <ddecator> cya mohaa
[05:00] <anzenketh> The ML posts?
[05:01] <nigelb> micahg: that seems like a bug which has a high rant potential
[05:01] <micahg> nigelb: yep, and I'm putting a disclaimer that no discussion will take place in the bugtracker on the issue
[05:02] <ddecator> good call
[05:02] <nigelb> yes, we should close the bug and request that any discussion can take place in -devel ML
[05:03] <micahg> nigelb: done already
[05:03] <nigelb> micahg: great :)
[05:04] <micahg> the last thing we need are more rant bugs
[05:04] <ddecator> or spammers
[05:10] <anzenketh> What I do not understand if they don't like it why don't they change it.
[05:11] <micahg> anzenketh: well, it's a whole discussion, you should read the threads if you're interested: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-January/030065.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-January/030068.html
[05:11] <micahg> there are a few more as well
[05:11] <nigelb> micahg: someone opened that thread again recently, I firmly believe its beating a dead horse
[05:12] <micahg> nigelb: yep, nixternal called it such
[05:12] <ddecator> wow, why are people so upset? all they have to do is change their homepage and the engine in the toolbar. it's not like they're forced to use it
[05:13] <anzenketh> Ya I am going though them micahg
[05:13] <micahg> ddecator: it's religious for some
[05:13] <ddecator> micahg, -_-
[05:13] <nigelb> micahg: the fear is ubuntu search is going to be run my microsoft
[05:13] <nigelb> but sabdfl himself said he didn't mind if it was bing and they paid
[05:13] <anzenketh> Duno perhaps it has to do with the microsoft yahoo deal the DOJ just approved.
[05:13] <micahg> like the whole debate about closed source apps on canonical servers
[05:13] <nigelb> I mean what better irony that to have microsoft to pay for linux development
[05:14] <micahg> nigelb: that's one point that someone brought up at the beginning
[05:14] <nigelb> micahg: yep
[05:14] <nigelb> micahg: I read through those mails and have the positive parts byheart as standard reply to rants ;)
[05:15] <anzenketh> I actually do not run some distributions because they are too far on the free software side of the spectrum that they make it hard for my system to work because of it.
[05:15] <micahg> anzenketh: Ubuntu tries to strike a good balance with that
[05:15] <anzenketh> I noticed that is why I continue to run it.
[05:16] <anzenketh> Free software is good but too much free software is bad for linux.
[05:16] <nigelb> micahg: you running lucid?
[05:16] <micahg> nigelb: no
[05:16] <micahg> anzenketh: well, there's free and there's open source
[05:16] <nigelb> hm, I need to get hold of the apport audio hook
[05:16] <micahg> anzenketh: all the software in Ubuntu is free, but it's not all open source
[05:17] <micahg> nigelb: ubuntu-bug audio?
[05:17] <nigelb> yeah
[05:17] <ddecator> well, it may not all be free much longer, in the sense that that software center will have paid apps
[05:17] <nigelb> I want to see the source
[05:17] <anzenketh> Yep I was talking both free as in beer and free as in freedom. I encourage businesses to charge for Linux applications if they feel it is nessesary.
[05:19] <anzenketh> Also I see the need for closed source drivers sometimes.
[05:19] <anzenketh> But it really sucks if they stop developing.
[05:20] <ddecator> alright folks, as much as i want to stay on and work on more reports, i still have a huge chapter i need to read and write a reflection for, so i need to get off so i can take it seriously, haha, cya later
[05:26] <nigelb> micahg: the new audio hook for apport is absolutely wonderful :)
[05:27] <nigelb> its a 300-line work of beauty
[05:29] <vish> micahg: hi.. when you know an issue is with upstream , and you file a bug upstream? when do you open a bug in lp?
[05:29] <vish> file or found
[05:31] <nigelb> vish: it would be nice to open one in LP.
[05:31] <micahg> vish: not sure what you mean
[05:31] <nigelb> the next person can know that its a known issue
[05:31] <nigelb> and it has been taken care of
[05:31] <micahg> well, depends, kde stuff you wouldn't open in LP anymore
[05:32] <vish> nigelb: i think it is frustrating  ;p  , when others know of the bug you are making them read mail for bug report you already know are upstream issues :s
[05:32] <vish> when others dont know*
[05:32] <nigelb> vish: supoosing you open a bug for firefox upstream.
[05:33] <nigelb> I'm just a new user, I probably would try to file a bug against ubuntu (since I'm a new user to ubuntu)
[05:33] <nigelb> and when I see it being suggested, I realize its a known issue.  Otherwise, I opena   bug, someone triagers
[05:33] <nigelb> we're adding more work
[05:33] <vish> nigelb: IMO , it should be opened only for bugs you know are still present in the release and need to be addressed in Ubuntu, ie patch needs to be pulled from upstream
[05:33] <nigelb> I'd rather have more mails than more work
[05:34] <vish> more mails is more work ;p
[05:34] <nigelb> well, if upstream is working on something, its nice for downstream to know that they are
[05:35] <micahg> vish: yes
[05:36] <vish> micahg: yes , as in always open bug in lp .. or yes to what i said ?
[05:36] <micahg> vish: yes, if ubuntu is still affected/or should SRU to open a bug
[05:36] <micahg> unless it's KDE
[05:36] <vish> yeah ..
[05:37] <vish> micahg: for Bug #526844 , like these , i got sub'd to this bug :( i was wondering what happened :(
[05:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 526844 in empathy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "MXIT icon missing in the account creation drop down menu (affects: 1)" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526844
[05:37] <vish> rather what is happening
[05:38] <nigelb> vish: the issue is fixed in lucid?
[05:38] <nigelb> and marked as such in the old bug?
[05:39] <micahg> well, my question is what old bug report?
[05:40] <vish> heh , yeah.. luckily i got a mail for that too , else i would have been wondering as well ;p
[05:40] <vish> micahg: Bug 437414
[05:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 437414 in empathy (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "some protocol icons in create account dropdown menu are missing (affects: 6) (dups: 2)" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/437414
[05:41] <micahg> k
[05:41] <micahg> you should ask om26er why you got subscribed vish
[05:41] <vish> om26er: ^ ?
[05:43] <nigelb> vish: ah, I'm not sure he read that *you* opened and fixed the upstream bug
[05:43] <vish> nigelb: hmm?
[05:44] <nigelb> vish: must've thought its a new bug and opened it downstream?
[05:44] <om26er> vish, I found you upstream report so subscribed you to know why was that marked fixed but then I changed my mind
[05:45] <nigelb> micahg: I've been wanting to ask you something
[05:45] <vish> om26er: ah , right , but it was not marked fixed , but rather fix committed
[05:45] <vish> om26er: nigelb: upstream wanted separate bugs for each protocol to fix 437414 .. hence each protocol has a separate bug
[05:45] <nigelb> vish: ah
[05:46] <nigelb> vish: (congrats on membership btw)
[05:46] <vish> ty :)
[05:46] <micahg> nigelb: k?
[05:47] <nigelb> micahg: when you package stuff, especially backports, how do you decide on the dependencies?
[05:47]  * om26er had a paper so could not appear on meeting :(
[05:48] <vish> om26er: also , if you are opening bugs in lp , you are increasing mails for others. and that increases more work for downstream triagers for a known upstream bug...  if it is an issue with a stable release it would be more appropriate.. :)
[05:48] <micahg> nigelb: whatever the package needs that's available in the archvie
[05:49] <nigelb> micahg: um, my question is more like, how do we figure out what the package needs
[05:49] <micahg> nigelb: what it's compiled against/ships with
[05:49] <vish> om26er: this bug , you found a bug upstream , but some bugs you open upstream and downstream as well..
[05:49] <nigelb> I've been hell bent on learning packaging and that part has me stumped
[05:49] <micahg> nigelb: more appropriate probably in -motu
[05:49] <om26er> vish, that has now changed.
[05:49] <nigelb> yeah
[05:49] <vish> om26er: changed?
[05:50] <om26er> vish, now I dont open downstream tasks if bug is mine
[05:50] <vish> good ;)
[06:02] <vish> om26er: also , when you subscribe one else , it would be easier for the subscribed person to follow the bug when there is a comment about why they were subscribed. :)
[06:03] <vish> oh.. he's not here :(
[06:04] <kermiac> vish: was it you that I was discussing the duplicated icons on gnome-panel bug with (i.e. 2 sound applets)?
[06:04] <kermiac> trying to find the original bug #
[06:04] <vish> kermiac: not sure.. i dont think it was me?  was this a recent bug?
[06:05] <kermiac> within the last month or so... I can't remember who i was discussing it with
[06:05] <kermiac> it was only affecting lucid
[06:05] <kermiac> maybe it wasn't you
[06:06] <nigelb> kermiac: me
[06:06] <kermiac> do you know the original bug # nigelb? I can't remember/ find it
[06:06] <nigelb> I'm trying
[06:06] <kermiac> ty, I looked but couldn't find it
[06:11] <nigel_nb> sorry, got disconnected
[06:11] <nigel_nb> looks like the only way to get this is to check the logs
[06:11] <kermiac> np, thanks for trying nigel_nb :)
[06:12] <kermiac> I'll have a look through the chan logs & see if I can find it
[06:12]  * nigel_nb strikes gold
[06:12] <nigel_nb> bug 439448
[06:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 439448 in gnome-panel (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "notification area shows wrong icons. erratic behaviour (affects: 28) (dups: 2)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/439448
[06:13] <kermiac> woot! ty nigel_nb
[06:13] <kermiac> :)
[06:13] <nigel_nb> ugh, not the one
[06:13] <nigel_nb> this one's in karmic. the one we talked about was lucid
[06:13] <kermiac> oh, the title looked familiar... must've looked at that one around the same time
[06:20] <nigel_nb> kermiac: bang! bug 510509
[06:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 510509 in gnome-panel (Ubuntu) "Notification area is glitchy (affects: 1)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/510509
[06:22] <kermiac> excellent, thanks heaps nigel_nb! I've been looking for that on & off all day :)
[06:22] <nigel_nb> kermiac: searching bugs on LP is not really easy.
[06:22] <kermiac> yeah, I was using all kinds of keywords searching through gnome-panel bugs, but still couldn't find it
[06:24] <kermiac> do you think bug 526511 is the same behaviour as 510509? It seems to be, but the last comment makes me have doubts
[06:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 526511 in gnome-panel (Ubuntu) "two sound icons in panel following update to Lucid (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526511
[06:25] <om26er> bug 526737 and bug 526729 was marked invalid by anzenketh they should have been upstreamed please any one let him know if I am not around
[06:25] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 526737 in empathy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Add sort by... (affects: 1)" [Wishlist,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526737
[06:25] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 526729 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Add function: Send an E-mail (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526729
[06:25] <nigel_nb> yea, I saw that one earlier.  It should potentially be a dup
[06:26] <om26er> I will upstream the second bug
[06:26] <kermiac> yeah, that's what I was thinking too. I'll dupe it. Thanks again for finding the original bug# nigel_nb :)
[06:26] <nigel_nb> kermiac: no problem :)
[06:33] <nigel_nb> om26er: um, wat does that rhythmbox bug mean?
[06:34] <nigel_nb> the next previous buttons being grayed out
[06:34] <om26er> nigel_nb, after update now the next/previous buttons in indicator application menu is greyed out i.e you cannot change track from inidcator application icon of rhythmbox
[06:34] <nigel_nb> om26er: ah
[06:46] <kermiac> oops. seems like this is not the same issue. apparently gnome-mixer applet is in the process of being replaced & that's what's causing the issues with no sound applet & duplicate sound applets in lucid
[06:48] <nigel_nb> ohh
[06:50] <kermiac> yeah, someone who i thought was a novice bugsquad member duped an issue where there was no applet to the bug report where there are 2 applets. I un-duped these & explained that they appeared to be different issues. I was just told that these issues are all due to the current gnome-mixer applet changes
[06:52]  * kermiac sighs
[06:52] <nigel_nb> hehe
[06:53] <kermiac> oh well, I (obviously) apologised.... live & learn, lol
[08:49] <BUGabundo_remote> bom dia
[09:37] <edakiri> question on how to mark Bug  #450606   .  which appears to be fixed in lucid but presumably  still present in karmic
[09:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 450606 in thunar-media-tags-plugin (Ubuntu) "Unable to set tags on Ogg files (affects: 1)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/450606
[09:37] <edakiri> is 'fix released' appropriate?
[09:39] <yofel> edakiri: looking, but if it's fixed in lucid then yes
[09:39] <yofel> edakiri: if you want to track the status in karmic please nominate the bug for karmic
[09:43] <edakiri> yofel: how?
[09:47] <yofel> edakiri: klick on 'Nominate for release' above the bug description, select karmic and submit
[10:38] <edakiri> Is there a way to see what  choices were made during installation?
[10:55] <LimCore> edakiri: well, if you try to run apt-get and it says that program is not installed, then you know there where some /bad/ choices made =)
[10:59] <edakiri> there are a variety of bugs for which afterwards i wish to check or verify what choices i made during installation.  what information is loogged or can be logge at present?  Is there a document some place about this?
[11:34] <kermiac> seb128: ping bug 526188
[11:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 526188 in ubuntu "desktop icons dissapear after press remove safely usb (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526188
[11:34] <kermiac> seems likely (to me at least) that the system didn't actually crash, the OP just lost the desktop icons. aren't the desktop icons handled by nautilus? just asking to make sure I get it right next time.
[11:36] <chrisccoulson> kermiac: yes
[11:36] <seb128> kermiac, nautilus should autorespawn
[11:37] <seb128> in any case that's rather a support request than a bug
[11:37] <seb128> it has nothing useful for a crash report
[11:37] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - autospawn is disabled in karmic isn't it?
[11:38] <seb128> chrisccoulson, let me check, did we do that to workaround the issue when not displaying the background?
[11:38] <seb128> in any case opening a places or running nautilus in alt-f2 should work
[11:38] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - yeah, i'm fairly sure we turned off Autorestart in karmic
[11:39] <seb128> still if nautilus crash the bug is useless
[11:39] <seb128> needs to get a stacktrace or use apport
[11:39] <chrisccoulson> kermiac: you should probably close the bug and ask the reporter to submit a crash report using apport
[11:39] <seb128> we need a "close this bug it's useless" button
[11:39] <chrisccoulson> heh
[11:39] <seb128> ;-)
[11:39] <kermiac> ok, np. ty chrisccoulson & seb128 I'll close it & ask to report with apport if they are able to reproduce
[11:40] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - and also an "ignore this bug, it's useless" button too ;)
[11:40] <BUGabundo_remote> seb128: alt-f2 is far from intuitive. I can't teach my dad about it :(
[11:40] <seb128> BUGabundo_remote, opening a place from the place menu should be
[11:41] <chrisccoulson> BUGabundo_remote: we had to disable autorespawn to please the people that disabled nautilus from drawing the desktop
[11:41] <chrisccoulson> else it would just restart itself ;)
[11:45] <BUGabundo_remote> seb128: the gtk bug, its much much better now
[11:45] <BUGabundo_remote> but still not as good as it was before the bug
[11:46] <seb128> BUGabundo_remote, good ;-)
[11:46] <seb128> BUGabundo_remote, are you sure? where did you notice that?
[11:46] <BUGabundo_remote> typing, changing windows
[11:46] <seb128> BUGabundo_remote, is that on your user account?
[11:46] <seb128> or on a guest session?
[11:46] <seb128> you had guest session 3 times faster the one day
[11:46] <BUGabundo_remote> ill do new speed tests on a new guest when I get home
[11:46] <seb128> I think you have a local issue with your account
[11:47] <seb128> which is not due to that csd change
[11:47] <BUGabundo_remote> that _feeling_ is on my regular account
[11:49] <BUGabundo_remote> seb128: on this session, via remote NX : Total time: 46.98
[11:49] <BUGabundo_remote> eheh
[11:49] <BUGabundo_remote> bit slow :D
[11:50] <seb128> well remote display...
[11:50] <BUGabundo_remote> eheh
[11:50] <BUGabundo_remote> should it matter?
[11:50] <BUGabundo_remote> is this time to render on screen?
[11:50] <BUGabundo_remote> or time to press button
[11:51] <seb128> BUGabundo_remote, rander
[11:51] <seb128> render
[11:52] <BUGabundo_remote> ohh
[11:52] <BUGabundo_remote> ok discard this test then
[11:58] <vish> anyone know of a bug where the policykit asks to unlock , if we select the option[always unlock when i login]... the keyring does not open ?  but rather prompts again..
[11:58] <vish> in Lucid*
[11:59] <chrisccoulson> vish - thats not policykit
[11:59] <chrisccoulson> that's gnome-keyring i think
[11:59] <DawnLight> compiz is leaking memory i'm gonna run out i wanna report what do i do quick
[11:59] <vish> chrisccoulson: oh.. that the gnome-keyring?   argh! the new keyring is crapping all over me :/
[11:59] <DawnLight> ?
[12:00] <vish> DawnLight: use valgrind
[12:01] <vish> DawnLight: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valgrind
[12:02] <DawnLight> vish: don't want to use browser
[12:03] <DawnLight> can you give me the command or approximately? i'll figure it out and have something useful
[12:03] <vish> DawnLight: AFAIK , there is no way to do it while it is leaking... you have to start the compiz again , and then run the test..
[12:03] <BUGabundo_remote> vish: have you ever trie to set a global proxy? and when you press "apply to all" it ask password TWICE ? :(
[12:04] <BUGabundo_remote> DawnLight: $ www-browser :DDDD
[12:04] <seb128> vish, I don't understand the issues you describe
[12:04] <vish> seb128: :(
[12:04] <seb128> vish, oh, the one you just described is a known one
[12:05] <vish> phew ;)
[12:05] <BUGabundo_remote> vish: I'm worse. no one ever gets what bugs I file :( not even me!
[12:05] <seb128> it's already open against gnome-keyring
[12:05] <seb128> vish, I don't get the keep lock you opened earlier though
[12:05] <vish> neat , i'll search for it
[12:05] <seb128> I don't understand the description rather
[12:06] <vish> seb128: i'm not sure where the bug is for that one , it might be nm?   but when firefox/liferea/thunderbird start they all mention no-connectivity
[12:06] <vish> but i can see the nm signal bars
[12:06] <vish> a few secs later if i refresh , they all connect
[12:07] <vish> not few secs , rather 1 min later*
[12:07] <seb128> vish, seems a nm issue, I don't see what the keyring has to do with that
[12:08] <DawnLight> thanks
[12:09] <vish> ah , might be , but it started only recently and happens when the apps are set to auto-start
[12:09] <seb128> but nm got updated to 0.8 recently
[12:10] <seb128> so it could be an issue there too
[12:10] <seb128> I do use autologin there and I've no such issue
[12:10] <vish> wireless?
[12:10] <seb128> yes
[12:11] <seb128> and wired
[12:11] <vish> hmm..
[12:11] <seb128> depends of the moment of the day
[12:12]  * vish tries to find nm-debugging wiki
[12:17] <gnomefreak> does anyone remember seeing a bug about frequency out of range i cant find it ni searches buti could swear i recall someone filing it
[13:37] <gnomefreak> how do you file a bug using a crrash report? apport is not a command i thought it was apport /var/crash <crash file>
[13:38] <Pici> gnomefreak: iirc you can use ubuntu-bug <crash-file>
[13:38] <gnomefreak> Pici: thanks ill try
[13:38] <BUGabundo_remote> gnomefreak: or apport-cli
[13:39] <gnomefreak> thanks it looks like it is working
[13:55] <nigelb> chrisccoulson: you never told us the reason for the congrats that day ;)
[13:56] <chrisccoulson> nigleb - do you still not know?
[13:57] <nigelb> chrisccoulson: nope
[13:57] <nigelb> chrisccoulson: my best guess is you entering the desktop team (thats my best shot)
[13:58] <nigelb> hggdh: hey :)
[13:59] <hggdh> hi nigelb
[14:01] <nigelb> hggdh: upstream helped me out with the hook ;)
[14:01] <nigelb> they didn't want debug for every bug
[14:02] <hggdh> cool
[14:02] <nigelb> hggdh: I finally realized why you were congratulating chris ;)
[14:02] <nigelb> though not why you did that to me :p
[14:03] <hggdh> nigelb: PVT
[14:05] <LimCore> yeeeey
[14:05] <LimCore> my radeon crashes daily
[14:05] <LimCore> what a lovelly testcase, isn't it <3
[14:05] <LimCore> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/527075
[14:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 527075 in ubuntu "Radeon crashed in X - Radeon HD 3200 in /usr/bin/X(FindGlyphRef+0x2c) from FindGlyphByHash - GART Table is not in FRAME_BUFFER range (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[14:05] <LimCore> what package would be best suited?
[14:18] <LimCore> if two people saw given bug (given bug instance - in example they seen it both happening),  is this a CONFIRMED status?
[14:18] <bcurtiswx> LimCore: as long as they are on different computers.. it only requires one to confirm
[14:19] <LimCore> bcurtiswx: same computer, same bug INSTANCE.  like, something crashed today at 15:05 and we both seen it. 2 people.
[14:20] <LimCore> confirmed means that 2 people are "eye witness ;)" or that it happened at least 2 times (for 2 separate "witness") or that it happens on at least 2 installations of ubuntu or what?
[14:20] <bcurtiswx> LimCore: two separate people, different computers
[14:20] <LimCore> ok
[15:17] <nigelb> qense: can you ping me when you get time to review that code?
[15:17] <qense> nigelb: will do
[15:18] <nigelb> thanks.  it something small which I'm missing
[16:40] <mpt> Does anyone on Lucid get something from Movie Player's BBC side pane that isn't "Could not connect to server"?
[16:41] <BUGabundo_remote> mpt: better ask in #ubuntu+1
[16:41] <mpt> oh
[16:41] <mpt> I was wondering whether I should report a bug, so...
[16:45] <nigelb> hggdh: when you get time, can you take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/383115/ ?
[16:45] <BUGabundo_remote> if you want user feed back, there is the place
[16:45] <nigelb> hggdh: I'll be back in later tonight :)
[16:45] <hggdh> nigelb: OK
[16:45] <hggdh> nigelb: looking
[16:47] <hggdh> nigelb: looks good. One question: what happens when you raise StopInteraction?
[16:49] <nigelb> when I press cancel?
[16:49] <nigelb> apport closes
[16:49] <nigelb> hggdh: it looks okay, but its not masking ;)
[16:51] <hggdh> k, will look at it
[16:51] <hggdh> nigelb: ^
[16:52] <om26er> if the reporter reports a bunch of problems/features requests into one bug report how should it be treated?
[16:53] <om26er> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/525333
[16:53] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 525333 in gwibber (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[wishlist]more features to add (affects: 1)" [Wishlist,New]
[16:58] <hggdh> nigelb: why did you escape the '\s' in the RE?
[16:59] <hggdh> changing '\s' to '\\s'?
[17:00] <nigelb> nigelb: wht?
[17:00] <nigelb> bah
[17:00] <nigelb> hggdh: what?
[17:00] <nigelb> (it might be a paste mistake)
[17:01] <hggdh> this might be the issue, then
[17:01] <hggdh> will check
[17:08] <nigelb> hggdh: I'm leaving for work.  catch you tonight?
[17:09] <hggdh> nigelb: yes, np
[17:12]  * om26er waits for the reply
[17:14] <om26er> should that be invalidated or converted into a single bug?
[17:17] <vish> om26er: it is a question you need to be asking the actual gwibber devs , each set of devs have their own process , some like it if the list in each bug is complete some want separate bugs
[17:19] <vish> om26er:  for this bug since kamusin has already triaged it you can revert it back to "triaged"
[17:20] <om26er> vish, ok will do that and also the reporter killed me ;)
[17:22] <vish> om26er: well , users dont really splitting the bugs into separate issues  , and   lp[nor anything bug system] is not really helpful in helping the triagers do the work either
[17:23] <vish> dont really like*
[17:26]  * vish just read what he has typed and notes too many typos :/  <brain flush>
[17:34] <cjohnston> hggdh: you still around and have a couple of minutes?
[17:34] <hggdh> cjohnston: right now busy, sorry
[17:34] <cjohnston> np...
[18:40] <nekohayo> ping seb128, just checking if you started testing the alpha isos with video files codec discovery, or not yet
[18:42] <seb128> nekohayo, no, I start iso testing and kept running into bugs which made me not able to go complete the install
[18:42] <nekohayo> oh
[18:42] <seb128> nekohayo, I will let you know when I'm past those and will test the desktop
[18:42] <nekohayo> thanks
[18:47] <malev> Hello everyone. Can anyone change the importance of thisbug to whislist?  523631
[18:48] <yofel_> bug 523631
[18:48] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 523631 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Softlink arrow icons too large on small images' thumbnails (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/523631
[18:54] <malev> yofel_: thanks! I dind't know about that bot's feature :D
[18:55] <yofel_> malev: I set it to Low as it's a usabiltiy issue
[18:55] <yofel> heh
[18:55] <yofel> !me | malev
[18:55] <ubot4> malev: Hi! I'm #ubuntu-bugs's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots
[18:58] <malev> yofel: GUAU!! It can talks!!!!
[19:00] <yofel> malev: also that bug should be sent to the gnome devs too, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream/GNOME
[19:00] <malev> yofel: oks! I'm going for it now
[19:01] <yofel> malev: and don't forget to check if the bug hasn't already been filed there ;)
[19:01] <mrand> malev: or if it has already been fixed in 10.04 or upstream.
[19:02] <mrand> so... many.... things....
[19:02] <malev> mrand: ... i see
[19:02] <malev> mrand: where can I find if it gas been fixed in 10.04?
[19:04] <mrand> malev: you try it, or get someone with 10.04 installed to try it.  You're in luck, btw... new alpha4 disks are ready.  If you don't want to upgrade your main machine, perhaps you could create a test machine, or re-partition your existing machine.  Worst case, you could run it in a virtual machine.
[19:05] <yofel> mrand: actually I can confirm this isn't fixed in lucid, I have a different Icon theme but it still looks bad
[19:06] <mrand> malev: there you go.  yofel to the rescue!
[19:06] <yofel> malev: and if you ever need lucid users to test something you'll find us in #ubuntu+1 ;)
[19:07] <malev> yofel: excelent! thanks
[19:07] <mrand> I keep forgetting bout that option somehow :-|
[19:07] <malev> I have to live right now. see ya folks
[19:09] <mrand> have fun malev!
[19:21]  * anzenketh searches for how to report a IRC spammer on freenode.
[19:22] <yofel> anzenketh: you could contact the freenode staff in #freenode
[19:22] <anzenketh> I decided I would just ignore it
[19:23] <anzenketh> It is only a wispier when I join.
[19:54]  * anzenketh wishes you could delete comments you made in launchpad.
[20:03] <anzenketh> I am trying to decide if bug 526641 is a duplicate of 510907 or 374919
[20:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 526641 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) "dbus does not report any PowerManagment messages (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526641
[20:05]  * ddecator looking
[20:10] <ddecator> i'm not sure it's a dupe of either of those
[20:13] <ddecator> 510907 is talking about the ability to inhibit suspend manually, and 374919 is talking about how the gnome-power-manager is not properly reporting errors to the user
[20:14] <ddecator> i don't know much about gnome-power-manager, so i'm not sure how it handles alerts that the battery is low in order to suspend the computer
[20:16] <ddecator> anzenketh, ah, it looks like there comp may be setup to not suspend on low battery according to the devkitpower.txt file
[20:16] <ddecator> anzenketh, have them double check their power management settings to see if it is in fact set to suspend on low battery
[20:18] <ddecator> anzenketh, if you look at DevkitPower.txt, at the bottom, it has the Daemon section, and next to 'on-low-batter' it says no
[20:19] <ddecator> on-low-battery...i can't type
[20:19] <anzenketh> Ahh I see I saw that and had a hunch that that is likely.
[20:20] <ddecator> doesn't hurt for them to double check their settings. i've had a lot of reports that were due to people changing a setting, then later forgetting and thinking the problem is a bug, haha
[20:22] <ddecator> i subscribed to the bug so i can see how it goes and offer advice along the way if you need it =)
[20:22] <charlie-tca> A little help with bug 526068 please
[20:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 526068 in ubuntu "installation stucks (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526068
[20:22] <anzenketh> Where is the best place to pull bugs that need to be triaged? If I don't care or know what package I want to triage yet.
[20:22] <charlie-tca> Is this a brainstorm idea ?
[20:23]  * ddecator looking
[20:23] <ddecator> anzenketh, what do you mean exactly? the best place to find bugs to work on?
[20:23] <charlie-tca> anzenketh: try here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Untriaged%20bugs
[20:24] <ddecator> charlie-tca, that's not a huge change, it's more of a wishlist
[20:24] <charlie-tca> thanks. Just got to know if I am reading it correctly.
[20:25] <ddecator> charlie-tca, that's how i read it, assuming they are saying the window is too large for them to make their selection...you might want to ask for clarification if you're unsure
[20:25] <anzenketh> I want to know what he means by sucks.
[20:25] <charlie-tca>  he don't. It is s_t_ucks
[20:26] <anzenketh> Oh I read that wrong
[20:26] <charlie-tca> I think the screen froze when he could not make the selection, but I had to read it about 20 times to get that far
[20:26] <ddecator> charlie-tca, ask him to clarify to be sure, doesn't hurt
[20:26]  * ddecator also subscribes to that report
[20:26] <anzenketh> Are we still using the Old Untouched canned?
[20:27] <anzenketh> And when should I use the Old Untouched canned if we are?
[20:27] <anzenketh> Like how old is too old.
[20:27] <charlie-tca> yes
[20:28] <ddecator> anzenketh, i believe we are, but that's more for if the bug was filed during the last cycle. it's more helpful to work on the newer bugs when you're first learning, plus it's more helpful for devs
[20:28] <charlie-tca> It is a judgement call.
[20:28] <ddecator> clean-up is something more for package adopters imo
[20:29] <ddecator> anzenketh, are you looking at the "new" bugs list?
[20:30] <anzenketh> I am looking at untriaged bug list ^ Link up there charlie-tca gave it
[20:31] <ddecator> yah that's the right one. start on the first page and work your way back until you find something you're comfortable with. also try to push yourself a little and try some you're less familiar with as well ;)
[20:31] <ddecator> the best way to learn is from experience
[20:32] <ddecator> alright, i have to head to class, but feel free to email me if you have any questions
[20:32] <ddecator> cya
[21:08] <bdmurray> vish: how is bug 403472 hardware specific?
[21:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 403472 in numlockx (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "by booting UBUNTU 9.04 numlockx don't work -or (if you like) works till after GDM login (affects: 2)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/403472
[21:14] <anzenketh> bdmurray: due to the software is working but there is not much communication going on between your hardware and the software.
[21:14] <anzenketh> Your number-lock key is not being intercepted.
[21:15] <bdmurray> In interpret hardware specifc to mean that it affects some hardware but not others.
[21:15] <bdmurray> s/In/I/
[21:15] <anzenketh> Yes and it only affects some hardware
[21:15] <anzenketh> Could be chipset or keyboard specific
[21:15] <bdmurray> There is no indication of that in the bug
[21:19] <anzenketh> What i don't understand is the papercut thing. The bug itself under the package is marked as confirmed but it being a papercut is invalid. Could that mean that the bug might still be worked on but not as fast?
[21:20] <anzenketh> Maybe he marked it as hardware specific because numberlock works for him.
[21:22] <anzenketh> bug 527320 and 527265 look like duplicates would you agree?
[21:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 527320 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) "package openoffice.org-emailmerge 1:3.1.1-5ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 (dup-of: 527265)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/527320
[21:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 527265 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) "package openoffice.org-emailmerge 1:3.1.1-5ubuntu1.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 (affects: 6) (dups: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/527265
[21:23] <anzenketh> Possibly 527327
[21:28] <SunBoY> anybody can help with usb ehci hub trouble ?
[21:28] <micahg> !support | SunBoY
[21:28] <ubot4> SunBoY: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[21:31] <SunBoY> !support | SunBoY
[21:31] <ubot4> SunBoY, please see my private message
[21:31] <SunBoY> !support
[21:31] <ubot4> The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[21:33] <anzenketh> It apport-collect acting up again?
[21:33] <anzenketh> I have never run it so I would not know.
[21:44] <jibel> anzenketh, OOo bugs from today are dups of bug 450569.
[21:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 450569 in update-manager (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 8 other projects) "package openoffice.org-emailmerge 1:3.0.1-9ubuntu3.1 failed to install/upgrade: (affects: 450) (dups: 129)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/450569
[21:45] <jibel> Something is going wrong with 1:3.1.1-5ubuntu1.1
[21:46] <BUGabundo> bRoas
[21:51] <anzenketh> Yay for update bugs
[21:51] <bdmurray> jibel: what's bug 502355 about?
[21:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 502355 in gstreamer0.10 (Ubuntu) "certain dvd ne sont pas lu alors que l'image initiale s'affiche (affects: 2)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/502355
[21:54] <jibel> bdmurray, you've recognized my frenglish accent ;)
[21:55] <jibel> bdmurray, he's asking why he can access the DVD menu but cannot read it.
[21:55] <jibel> I'll translate it
[21:56] <bdmurray> jibel: great, thanks I was looking a lucid bug regarding dvd menus not being clickable
[21:56] <jibel> bdmurray, by 'read' I mean play
[22:03] <persia> Anyone happen to know offhand where bugs against paste.ubuntu.com belong?
[22:07] <mrand> persia: There is a paste.ubuntu bug marked as confirmed here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/509217
[22:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 509217 in ubuntu-website "paste.ubuntu.com requires authorization to "download as text" (affects: 1)" [Low,Confirmed]
[22:07] <persia> And it's even my bug :)
[22:08] <mrand> :-)
[23:07] <anzenketh> I think bug 527157  is ready for Triage mark could someone check that for me?
[23:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 527157 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Brightness controls skips Levels. (affects: 3) (dups: 1)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/527157
[23:09] <ddecator> i always thought that was the right behavior...
[23:12] <ddecator> looks detailed enough to me, but i'm not in bugcontrol so i can't help you out
[23:14] <anzenketh> I just wanted to make sure before I moved on
[23:15] <bcurtiswx> im not all that unhappy with empathy and IRC now..
[23:15] <anzenketh> What one do you like?
[23:15] <ddecator> anzenketh, i think that's the expected behavior, but the different settings affecting the amount it goes up every time is interesting, so it's worth the devs taking a look, but when a bugcontrol person can look at it they'll give you more info
[23:15] <ddecator> bcurtiswx, that's why i just use xchat
[23:15] <bcurtiswx> ddecator: my last statement was actually saying.. i like empathy IRC now
[23:16] <ddecator> bcurtiswx, any specific reason?
[23:17] <bcurtiswx> because all I really care about is chat and notification of pings when they come
[23:18] <bcurtiswx> i get that
[23:18] <bcurtiswx> the stopper for me was /join and /part and /op and /topic ..etc..
[23:18] <bcurtiswx> but thats all there now
[23:19] <ddecator> that's good to know...
[23:24] <kermiac_> anzenketh: were you able to reproduce bug 527157?
[23:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 527157 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Brightness controls skips Levels. (affects: 3) (dups: 1)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/527157
[23:25] <anzenketh> No but there was a duplicate.
[23:26] <kermiac_> yes, sorry mate - just saw that
[23:26] <ddecator> anzenketh, what importance do you think that bug should be?
[23:26] <kermiac_> ddecator: that was my next question, lol
[23:27] <ddecator> kermiac_, just making sure ;)
[23:27] <ddecator> kermiac_, thanks for helping out, i would but my app for bugcontrol still needs to be reviewed
[23:27] <anzenketh> I would say low
[23:27] <ddecator> reasoning?
[23:28] <anzenketh> Not effected on all hardware particularly this is a netbook
[23:28] <anzenketh> That and it is more of a annoyance bug
[23:28] <anzenketh> Not to put the bug down but it still somewhat works.
[23:29] <kermiac_> I don't actually agree with your first reason (not affect all hardware) but i do agree with the other two reasons :)
[23:29] <ddecator> kermiac_, +1
[23:30] <anzenketh> Ya I changed my mind after I said that.
[23:30] <kermiac_> just because it only effects certain hardware doesn't necessarily mean it is a low priority bug but
[23:30] <kermiac_> the other 2 reasons are good enough for me :)
[23:30] <ddecator> yah, it hardly affects functionality, they should be able to use the slider in the power manager as a workaround for fine tuning the brightness as well
[23:31] <anzenketh> Got a question though If I was not able to confirm it and did not find a duplicate would I still be able to put it to confirmed due to there is enough information and it would be reproducable.
[23:31] <ddecator> no
[23:31] <kermiac_> no, it needs to be confirmed by at least 2 people on 2 diff computers
[23:32] <ddecator> and that time kermiac_ beat me to the explanation =p
[23:32] <kermiac_> :)
[23:32] <kermiac_> by ubot :P
[23:32] <kermiac_> bye, even
[23:32] <ddecator> where'd it go?
[23:32] <anzenketh> So in that case I would just get the full information and give my opinion ready to be marked as triage?
[23:33] <ddecator> anzenketh, if there is enough info for a developer to know what is going on, and it seems legit, and there are no dupes, then yes
[23:33] <arand> Would anyone here be able to confirm if Bug #510571 exists in the current lucid version of virtualbox-ose (or pre-jaunty)? Also, could I get a low, possibly medium on the vbox-ose task?
[23:33] <anzenketh> :( ubot is gone no link to click
[23:34] <ddecator> darn, no ubot :(
[23:34] <kermiac_> I almost forgot to ask you anzenketh, did you look for dupes of bug 527157?
[23:34] <micahg> jpds: did ubot go on vacation?
[23:34] <arand> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox-ose/+bug/510571
[23:34] <ddecator> kermiac_, did he not find that dupe?
[23:34] <ddecator> (i didn't check)
[23:35] <micahg> jpds: unping, thanks
[23:35] <ddecator> there we go
[23:35] <jpds> micahg: Well i just kicked it. ;)
[23:35] <jpds> Err.
[23:36] <anzenketh> Ugh Have to go to school.
[23:36] <kermiac_> ty ddecator - I need more sleep
[23:36] <ddecator> kermiac_, np ;)
[23:36] <kermiac_> ok, cya anzenketh :)
[23:36] <ddecator> cya anzenketh
[23:37] <ddecator> haha, ubot being moody?
[23:37] <jpds> No, me and my pkill.
[23:38] <ddecator> fair enough
[23:38] <arand> safe to use *pokes ubot
[23:39] <arand> Would anyone here be able to confirm if Bug #510571 exists in the current lucid version of virtualbox-ose (or pre-jaunty)? Also, could I get a low, possibly medium on the vbox-ose task?
[23:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 510571 in virtualbox-ose (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "-11 & later kernels won't boot with acpi, -10 works, Lucid (affects: 11)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/510571
[23:39] <ddecator> woot
[23:39] <ddecator> and btw, no, i can't confirm that right now haha
[23:41] <arand> Btw, is this the right channel to ask for confirms like this?
[23:42] <micahg> arand: yes
[23:42] <ddecator> bah, the 5-a-day keeps not registering that i've worked on 5 or more bugs lately
[23:42] <kermiac_> arand: you could also try #ubuntu+1 for lucid if noone here can help you
[23:42] <kermiac_> ddecator: is your email account on LP hidden?
[23:43] <kermiac_> I had that issue when i first signed up to 5-a-day
[23:43] <ddecator> kermiac_, nope, it was keeping track for a while, but it says i didn't achieve it the last two days and i know i did...unless it didn't update right or something
[23:44] <arand> kermiac_: Yea I tried that, might be the wrong time of day..
[23:44] <micahg> arand: the bug is already confirmed and fixed upstream
[23:45] <arand> Would that mean I can simply assume it appears on all releases prior?
[23:45] <arand> I've tested myself on 9.04 and 9.10..
[23:46] <micahg> arand: shouldn't appear on any previous release as only lucid has 2.6.32
[23:47] <arand> micahg: The bug is in virtualbox, the guest kernel version is what triggers it.
[23:47] <micahg> arand: ah, sorry
[23:48] <ddecator> gotta go, cya everybody
[23:50] <arand> I should maybe rewrite the title/summary slightly...
[23:50] <micahg> arand: yeah, the upstream bug is clear, but I guess I glossed over it