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SarvattRAOF: bored? want to try testing out a plymouth change to see if fixes it? wish i could still reproduce it :( it'll show up here - https://edge.launchpad.net/~sarvatt/+archive/bugfixes00:26
RAOFI'll give it a whirl next time I reboot.00:27
Sarvatti just changed it to stop resetting the ISIG flag on plymouth's VT. i think our gdm/plymouth integration stuff is screwing up with that because its using the same VT00:30
superm1Sarvatt, and here i thought i was crazy that I was crashing X by hitting enter on my terminals the other day :)00:42
johanbrhi... what could be the problem if nouveau says "(EE) [drm] failed to open device" ?02:12
johanbrthis is on lucid + xorg-edgers, completely updated02:12
Sarvattdid you boot the 2.6.32-14 kernel?02:14
johanbryep02:15
johanbrhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/382674/ for X log02:15
johanbruname -a02:16
johanbroops :)02:16
Sarvattwere you the person that didn't update things and just updated individual packages instead?02:17
johanbryes, definitely 32-14 :)02:17
johanbrI've done that sometimes yes02:17
johanbrbut I remembered our conversation, so did a full dist-upgrade this time :)02:17
Sarvattis it a laptop with the lid closed by any chance?02:17
johanbrlaptop yes, lid closed no02:18
Sarvattactually, i think acpi=noirq might be messing with it, can you try booting with lbm-nouveau.ignorelid=1 added to grub?02:18
johanbrabsolutely02:19
johanbrI'll try removing the acpi= option too02:19
johanbrback in a minute... 02:19
Sarvattthat'll ignore the acpi lid status, log looks like mine does when i boot with the lid closed02:19
Sarvatthmm he said he was using edgers but.. compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 0.0.1502:22
Sarvattoh nevermind mine says that too, the drm message later is where it says its 0.0.1602:22
Sarvattany luck?02:26
johanbrafraid not... still didn't work, but log now slightly different02:26
johanbrhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/382680/02:27
johanbr"drmGetBusid returned ''" doesn't look good02:28
johanbrit was "lbm-nouveau.ignorelid=1", right?02:28
Sarvattcan you paste your dmesg?02:29
johanbrsure, just a sec02:29
johanbrhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/382683/02:30
johanbrI do have the experimental 3d stuff installed... could that be interfering?02:33
Sarvattdo you have nouveau-firmware installed?02:34
Sarvattno i dont think so, some pretty nasty errors in dmesg there02:34
johanbryep, nouveau-firmware is installed... 20091212-0ubuntu102:35
RAOFAll these people with shiny new nv5x+ cards!  They'll get to test out the ctxprog generator soon, I think; it sounds like mwk's gearing up for a test-request on it.02:36
Sarvattjohanbr: hmm I think i'd start by purging plymouth and seeing if that helps any02:36
johanbrI actually just installed plymouth to see if that would help :)02:37
johanbrbut I'll try purging it and removing the boot options, I haven't tried that combination02:37
johanbrback in a bit...02:38
RAOFWhy is that drm rather than lbm-drm?02:40
Sarvattwhere?02:41
RAOFIn johanbr's dmesg logs.02:41
Sarvatthmm02:42
Sarvattgood point02:42
RAOFSomeone's got a stale version of 0.0.15 from upstream; it's 2.6.32-847-nicelogshasum02:42
RAOFActually, it might be nouveau-kernel-source.02:43
Sarvattugh yeah gotta be, [   12.306932] [drm] Initialized nouveau 0.0.15 v2.6.32-847-g50ebb93924038778b for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 002:44
Sarvattcompletely missed that02:44
RAOFIt might be nice to get that info into the lbm-builds, too.02:44
Sarvatt[   13.428170] [lbm-drm] Initialized nouveau 0.0.16 20090420 for 0000:05:00.0 on minor 0 here02:45
RAOFActually... what would be nice in there is “initialized nouveau 0.0.16 lbm-drm $PACKAGE_VERSION ...”02:46
Sarvattdeleting nouveau-kernel-source from edgers02:52
Sarvatti'm sure thats what he did02:52
Sarvattthink i should upload lbm-nouveau with http://0x04.net/~mwk/0001-drm-nv50-Implement-ctxprog-state-generation.patch ?02:54
Sarvatteh might as well, its crack anyway :)02:57
Sarvatthttp://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2010-February/005137.html02:58
Sarvattuploaded03:06
johanbrfinally!03:11
johanbrdowngrading the X server made nouveau work again03:11
johanbrSarvatt, I *think* it was this upgrade that broke it:03:17
johanbr[UPGRADE] xserver-common 2:1.7.4.902~git20100205+server-1.7-branch.85b04bb0-0ubu03:17
johanbrntu0sarvatt3 -> 2:1.7.5~git20100216+server-1.7-branch.f0ec2e0d-0ubuntu0sarvatt03:17
Sarvattjohanbr: you installed nouveau-kernel-source03:17
Sarvattthats an obsolete package and screwed things up03:17
johanbroh!03:18
Sarvatti deleted it off edgers so noone else would do that03:18
johanbrahhh...03:19
Sarvattwe probably need to get nouveau-kernel-source deleted from the archive too?03:19
Sarvattxserver should be 1.7.5-1ubuntusomething btw, theres newer in the archive than whats in lucid03:20
Sarvatterr than whats in edgers03:20
Sarvattjohanbr: sudo apt-get purge nouveau-kernel-source should fix you up03:22
johanbryep, just that did that :)03:22
johanbrI'll just reboot and make sure everything's okay03:22
johanbrmany thanks for your help03:22
Sarvattno worries, you'll see lbm-drm in your dmesg instead of drm all over the place03:23
Sarvattif its working right03:23
Sarvattany luck?03:29
johanbryep, back to working order now03:31
johanbrthank you03:31
Sarvattno worries, sorry about that, should have removed that package a long time ago03:31
Sarvattbryceh: nouveau-kernel-source should probably be removed from the archive for lucid :)03:32
brycehSarvatt, heh03:32
Sarvatti put a firmwareless nouveau package up on edgers also to get more testing03:33
Sarvatthttp://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2010-February/005137.html03:33
Sarvatti'm guessing it'd work fine for whats going in lucid, its the 3D stuff thats iffy with it03:34
Sarvattmaybe we should patch out this error message from evdev - (EE) ioctl EVIOCGNAME failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device03:48
Sarvattalot of people posting  bug reports thinking its actually a problem03:49
Sarvattits just because of how we load evdev always then another driver if it fits later from how the udev rules are set up03:50
Sarvatthttp://sarvatt.com/downloads/patches/0001-Silence-EVIOCGNAME-error.patch  ?03:54
brycehAGREED04:00
brycehI just triaged a bug about that04:00
RAOFSarvatt: Wow, you're quick.  I was going to apply that voodoo generator later this afternoon :)04:01
brycehSarvatt, works for me04:01
brycehSarvatt, do you have git access to the -evdev tree?  If so, go ahead and commit that.  If not, I'll take care of it tomorrow04:02
Sarvattsure thing bryceh, i'll merge everything into the ubuntu branch and set it all up. should I set the changelog to UNRELEASED or leave it lucid?04:31
Sarvattxserver-xorg-input-evdev (1:2.3.2-3ubuntu1) lucid; urgency=low04:31
Sarvatti merged the xserver-xorg-input-evdev-1_2.3.2-3 tag into ubuntu since thats what we're on in lucid, origin/ubuntu was really old since we've been syncing from debian for lucid04:32
Sarvattbuilding it now to see if its working right before i push it04:33
Sarvattyay works fine, http://paste.ubuntu.com/382729/04:36
Sarvattwell I just left the changelog as lucid, hope I dont screw anything up doing that :)04:39
Sarvattpushed it all here http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-xorg/driver/xserver-xorg-input-evdev.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ubuntu04:40
Sarvattbryceh: do you want a debdiff? should I include the changelog with the ubuntu history in it if so since the synced one just has the debian history? here's one if thats right - http://sarvatt.com/downloads/patches/xserver-xorg-input-evdev_2.3.2-3ubuntu1.debdiff05:05
brycehSarvatt, looks great06:30
brycehSarvatt, only other thing is if you can associate the debdiff to a launchpad bug report, it's good to do so06:31
brycehSarvatt, upload sponsored06:37
Sarvattthanks bryceh 06:45
Sarvattgo figure I found one after - https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/51731606:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 517316 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev "ioctl EVIOCGNAME failed on lucid" [Undecided,Fix released]06:45
Sarvattwas on virtualbox-ose :)06:45
brycehheh, yeah that always happens to me06:47
brycehsometimes doing a google against site:bugs.launchpad.net for the error message turns up some bug matches06:47
brycehprobably would get too many hits in this case though06:47
Sarvattlabel:ubuntu-x-swat eviocgname in gmail here :)06:50
Sarvattalmost 11k bug emails in there06:50
brycehclosing out all the -nv bugs make a good dent in our peak - http://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/X/Graphs/totals.svg06:51
brycehalso with james_w's help I sorted out a bug that's been preventing my triaging scripts from running for the last few months, so I'm hoping they'll kick in and start catching up on triaging work06:52
Sarvattnice!06:52
brycehI think outside the scripted triaging, I'm personally just going to be focusing  on bugs marked 'lucid' (maybe I mentioned that already)06:52
Sarvattnvidia stuff is going to be *hard*, so many bugs that are just people screwing things up for themselves and needing help fixing it instead of actual bugs06:52
bryceher, s/marked/tagged/06:53
brycehyeah, totally06:53
brycehI've complained about that at the last few ubuntu gatherings06:53
brycehthey're more like support requests than bug reports06:53
brycehi.e., "Please fix this issue that is making my system broken" vs. "This is a flaw in the Ubuntu product that should be fixed"06:54
Sarvattyeah the kind of thing you can spend 8 hours helping 8 people fix it when you have 1000+ bugs worth of it to go through..06:57
brycehyep06:59
brycehwhat chaps my hide is when the bug reporters get dickish about it... e.g. #12157407:00
brycehalthough I've noticed it's rarely actually people who actually report bugs, but more likely drive by commenters who've never filed bug reports before who have the worst manners07:01
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DawnLightcompiz is leaking memory i'm gonna run out i wanna report what do i do quick11:59
DawnLight?11:59
bjsniderSarvatt, i don't doubt that you're correct about nvidia users having screwed up their own systems and now they need help, but can you give a few examples of that?13:29
apwunder KMS if your edid information is wrong or hidden by a KVM switch is there any way to tell KMS drivers a sensible resolution override line one used to do in /etc/xorg.conf ??16:50
jcristaui think you can pass something like video=VGA1:1024x768 to the kernel16:51
tseliotcan it be video=LVDS1 too (when using a laptop)?16:52
jcristau16:53
smbtseliot, Hm, if I would now any name. On laptops I would look into acpi info but on a desktop...18:37
tseliot???18:38
smbtseliot, Sorry, trying the thing apw has askd before18:39
tseliotah, ok18:39
smbGetting a different video mode on a kms18:39
smbBut its a desktop to acpi knows nothing about gfx hw18:39
smbAnd its nouveau and behind a switch that hides the EDID 18:40
tseliotouch18:41
smbAtm, it feels to me we got 3 kernel/grub arguments which all do *not* work. Or I just have not found out how they are supposed to work18:43
tseliotwhat arguments?18:43
smbvga= is deprecated, video= and gfxpayload=18:45
apwtseliot, have you ever tried video= on kms?18:48
tseliotnope18:50
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tormodplease cherrypick for mesa, bug 51584621:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 515846 in mesa "mesa 7.7 DRI crash, assertion in driNewRenderbuffer()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51584621:28
tjaaltonis it not in 7.7-branch?21:29
tjaaltonseems to be21:30
tjaaltonso we'll get it anyway21:30
RAOFSarvatt: I don't think your -11 plymouth fixed the enter crash for me.21:36
BUGabundobRoas21:46
* jcristau sighs at subscriber-only ubuntu lists...21:48
brycehahem, "spam-free" subscribe-only ubuntu lists...21:49
BUGabundoeheh21:52
BUGabundohumm21:52
BUGabundodon't member be able to email to every list?21:52
BUGabundo*Members/Motu21:52
brycehdunno21:53
jcristauwell at least kernel-team@ seems to be moderated, rather than outright rejecting non-subscriber posts21:57
BUGabundoAFAIK all lists are moderated21:57
jcristauthat's not what mailman tells me21:58
tormodtjaalton, hi, "we'll get it" like soon? I think it is a blocker for all non-intel/ati21:59
tjaaltontormod: like after alpha322:04
tjaaltonbgoglin is about to upload 7.7-422:04
tormodgoodygood22:05
kklimondaso the latest nouveau broke it for me :/22:56
kklimondaupdate*22:59
kklimondathe one from xorg-edgers ppa 2.6.32-14.999~xorgedgers423:07
RAOFBroke in what way?23:13

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