[21:05] <Lcawte> Oh, lucky guess
[21:05] <Lcawte> What is Ubuntu Studio, it seems like an OS aimed at like video making etc..
[21:07] <Lcawte> !en
[21:27] <holstein> hello Lcawte
[21:27] <Lcawte> wat?
[21:28] <Lcawte> ugh, sorry that wat? was from my sister
[21:29] <Lcawte> While I was downstairs
[21:29] <Lcawte> hi holstein
[21:29] <holstein> lol
[21:30] <holstein> no worries
[21:30] <holstein> you checking out ubuntu studio?
[21:31] <Lcawte> well, having a look at it and wondering, yeah
[21:31] <Lcawte> I've always been interested in getting some proper tools
[21:32] <holstein> it would be nice to have a live CD
[21:32] <holstein> if you want
[21:32] <holstein> you could look at someting like 64studio's live CD
[21:32] <holstein> there is a 3.x beta version
[21:32] <holstein> based on ubuntu hardy
[21:33] <holstein> that is pretty similar
[21:33] <Lcawte> hm, yeah, I was thinking of burning a copy of it to a CD
[21:33] <holstein> you can just add the studio packages to a vanilla ubuntu install too
[21:33] <Lcawte> does normal ubuntu have anything to burn ISO's by default? Or shall I do it on my winows machine
[21:33] <holstein> !vanilla
[21:33] <meganerd> I don't think 64Studio has a live disk anymore
[21:34] <holstein> meganerd: yeah?
[21:34] <holstein> i havent checke in a while
[21:34] <meganerd> not with their 3.x beta
[21:34] <holstein> OH yeah
[21:34] <meganerd> I am using 64Studio on my main DAW
[21:34] <Lcawte> vanilla ubuntu.. is that normal ubuntu?
[21:34] <holstein> you are right
[21:34] <holstein> you would need the 2.x
[21:34] <holstein> and thats not as much like ubuntu
[21:34] <meganerd> the 3 beta is based on hardy, so you probably want that one anyway
[21:34] <holstein> but not unlike it really
[21:35] <meganerd> it is pretty stable but even the 3.0 beta is getting long in the tooth
[21:35] <holstein> Lcawte: yup, vanilla = plain old ubuntu
[21:35] <Lcawte> kewl
[21:35] <meganerd> 2.x is based on Debian, not a huge difference but it is quite old now
[21:35] <holstein> meganerd: i had several issues that were not resolved
[21:35] <holstein> on 64studio
[21:36] <holstein> i was checking it out back when ubuntu studio did not ship with the RT kernel
[21:36] <Lcawte> Ok, the packages is just the software? I've already messed up 2 configurations of ubuntu this week :P
[21:36] <holstein> Lcawte: hehe
[21:36] <Lcawte> holstein: not funny, for me anyway
[21:36] <holstein> yup, he studio software comes in meta-packages
[21:37] <holstein> so you can install one meta-package, and get a lot of the studio software
[21:37] <meganerd> I used the studio meta package on my laptop
[21:37] <holstein> there are a few of the packages
[21:37] <holstein> if you go to synaptic
[21:37] <Lcawte> kewl... what command line do I need :P
[21:37] <holstein> and search ubuntustudio
[21:37] <holstein> or sudo apt-cache search ubuntustudio
[21:38] <holstein> you can read about them
[21:38] <meganerd> holstein: what issues?  I still prefer it for a pure DAW,
[21:38] <holstein> you can get just the stuff you need for what your going to be doing
[21:38] <holstein> that link...
[21:38] <holstein> !vanilla
[21:38] <holstein> has all the pakcages listed
[21:39] <holstein> they are named the same from hardy to karmic
[21:39] <holstein> and lucid too i bet
[21:39] <holstein> meganerd: i had a build error in 64
[21:39] <Lcawte> ok, that confuses me..
[21:40] <holstein> Lcawte: you can sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-whateveryouwant
[21:40] <Lcawte> which one do I want?
[21:40] <holstein> that all depends really
[21:40] <holstein> i do audio recording
[21:40] <Lcawte> if I did: sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio would that get me like all of it?
[21:40] <Lcawte> Animation, Graphics, I'll try whatever
[21:40] <holstein> i got ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins
[21:40] <holstein> that kind of thing
[21:40] <holstein> you would want the graphics ones
[21:41] <holstein> ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video
[21:41] <holstein> its not goint to hurt anything to get them all
[21:41] <Lcawte> how do I get them all :P
[21:41] <holstein> if you have space for them
[21:42] <Lcawte> err is over 100GB enough
[21:42] <holstein> i would do...
[21:42] <holstein> sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video
[21:42] <holstein> the only 2 your not getting there are
[21:43] <holstein> ubuntustudio-desktop
[21:43] <holstein> which is the themeing
[21:43] <Lcawte> kewl
[21:43] <meganerd> I am not a big of the UBS theme
[21:43] <holstein> which is actually very nice by the way
[21:43] <meganerd> too dark for me
[21:43] <holstein> but yeah, i dont like it either
[21:43] <meganerd> it looks cool but I find it hard to use for any length of time
[21:43] <holstein> but still, pretty slick looking
[21:44] <holstein> also Lcawte
[21:44] <meganerd> no argument here, it is cool looking
[21:44] <holstein> you would want to get the real time kernel for serious audio work
[21:44] <Lcawte> yes?
[21:44] <holstein> adding linux-rt to that list
[21:44] <Lcawte> I'm just trying the stuff for the moment
[21:44] <holstein> yeah
[21:44] <holstein> you can check it all out without it
[21:46] <Lcawte> ugh, Firefox, I dont want to restart yet, let me install all the stuff I need to first
[21:47] <Lcawte> installing
[21:48] <Lcawte> so how can I get involved with Ubuntu and Ubuntu Studio...
[21:48] <holstein> the mailing list is rather active
[21:49] <holstein> if your talking about coding and that kind of thing
[21:49] <holstein> thats where i would ask
[21:51] <Lcawte> Coding, CSS is about as far as I can do.. other languages dont like me as much
[21:51] <holstein> testing and reporting is always helpful
[21:51] <Lcawte> Graphics work, MediaWiki :P
[21:52] <Lcawte> reporting and testing could work...
[21:52]  * Lcawte goes to ebay and buys a few old machines, and sticks different linux OS' on them
[21:52] <holstein> cool
[21:52] <holstein> theres a goodwill computer outlet
[21:52] <holstein> not too far from me
[21:53] <holstein> lots of cheap boxes in various states of repair
[21:53] <Lcawte> I've always been interested in OS's other than Windows, but now i've seen the fiddlyness of Ubuntu.. I'm starting to regret it :P
[21:53] <holstein> yeah
[21:53] <holstein> stick it out if you can
[21:53] <holstein> how long have you been using it?
[21:53] <holstein> linux?
[21:53] <holstein> in general
[21:54] <holstein> i use to fiddle with installing strange components
[21:54] <holstein> putting linux on old boxes
[21:54] <holstein> when i started running it on newer hardware
[21:55] <holstein> its a lot easier
[21:55] <Lcawte> not too long xD
[21:55] <holstein> like, installing windows on something takes a long time for me
[21:55] <holstein> to go around and find/install all the drivers
[21:55] <holstein> if the linux kernel supports all the hardware
[21:55] <holstein> boom
[21:55] <holstein> its very easy
[21:56] <holstein> if not, then you got to pick your battles
[21:56] <holstein> and or course, doing some research before buying hardware helps
[21:56] <holstein> i got my girlfriend an HP mininote
[21:56] <holstein> came with SUSE
[21:56] <holstein> i thought it would be easy
[21:56] <holstein> but its got VIA chips
[21:56] <holstein> its challenging
[21:57] <holstein> BUT my asus EEE is out-of-the-box
[21:57] <holstein> and the mininote is not that bad really
[21:58] <holstein> my other boxes are all supported too
[21:58] <holstein> id way rather install linux on a box than windows
[21:58] <holstein> now-a-days
[21:58] <Lcawte> lol
[21:58] <holstein> much easier
[21:58] <holstein> and i know i dont have to do it again ever really
[21:59] <holstein> unless i just want to
[21:59] <holstein> no resgistry BS
[21:59] <Lcawte> I havnt really set up anything by myself than this ubuntu, the others cam pre-installed =.=
[21:59] <Lcawte> I've seen it done though
[21:59] <holstein> well, like anything else
[21:59] <holstein> it gets easier
[21:59] <holstein> its just different
[21:59] <holstein> if you like windows, you like windows, and thats cool
[22:00] <holstein> but the install and configuring in linux gets easier as you get more experience
[22:01] <holstein> i found a lot of help on IRC
[22:01] <holstein> you got a local ubuntu channel?
[22:02] <holstein> im in north carolina
[22:02] <holstein> we got a #ubuntu-us-nc channel
[22:02] <Lcawte> I just use #ubuntu
[22:02] <holstein> it can be challenging to get a word in there at #ubuntu
[22:02] <Lcawte> yeah
[22:03] <Lcawte> I'm guessing my local channel is #ubuntu-uk < United Kingdom?
[22:04] <holstein> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/
[22:04] <holstein> OH yeah
[22:04] <holstein> thats a great channel
[22:04] <holstein> i hang in there too
[22:04] <holstein> theres a great podcast too
[22:04] <holstein> http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/
[22:04] <Lcawte> I would hang in more channels, but I'm getting sleepy and I've just downloaded my IRC client, and dont have time to reboot  tonight
[22:05] <holstein> you got plenty of time
[22:05] <holstein> IRC's not going anywere
[22:05] <Lcawte>  /we hope/
[22:08] <Lcawte> I'm probally going to have to leave this installing things all night and turn it off tommorow
[22:08] <holstein> yup
[22:09] <holstein> took an hour or so i think when i did it
[22:10] <Lcawte> anyway, good night