[00:32] hmm I should try the Alpha3 isos in a KVM when it lands, previous ones haven't been too successful (especially the KDE and netbook) === kermiac_ is now known as kermiac === bbigras_ is now known as bbigras === kermiac is now known as kermiac_ [01:19] * penguin42 wonders why exaile (paused) is using an entire CPU [01:20] anyone elses wirelss going crazy now with recent updates? [01:20] my connection is bouncing between 0 and like 80% [01:26] hi... anyone of you uses daily builds of Gwibber? [02:07] grr, stupid indicator thingy... blacklists pidgin, for some reason. [03:01] anyone having issues with KDE just crashing, and X.org being forced into low graphics mode? [03:04] It only appears to be happening when using KDE [03:45] why does the notification area fill up with vertical lines as time passes?? [03:46] kindofabuzz, i don't have that issue [03:46] kindofabuzz, maybe some program in the notification area is causing trouble [03:47] Nitsuga, i get them without anything in the notification area [03:47] hey [03:47] im having issues with CPUfreq scaling in UNR 9.10 [03:48] Steil, maybe you can get more help in #ubuntu [03:48] Steil: 9.10 support is in #ubuntu, this channel is for 10.04 discussion and support. [03:49] er [03:49] 10.04 i meant [03:49] sorry [03:49] heh [03:49] (what is the default cpu scaling daemon in 10.04?) [03:50] Steil, cpufreq? I think there isn't any [03:50] hmmm [03:50] okay [03:50] * Steil hasnt used ubuntu since 6.10 [03:50] Steil, any i think [03:51] cpufreqd isn't installed on my system [03:51] cpu frequency scaling is handled internally by kernel [03:51] so does the kernel handle scaling on its own now? === D-Spair is now known as DSpair [03:52] Hi all, I need some assistance. [03:52] The LVM modules are not starting up early enough in the init process to mount my mirrored home directory under Lucid. How do I modify that? [03:59] iS cAPS lOCK NUTS FOR EVERYONE? [04:00] alex_mayorga, what? [04:02] I pressed Caps Lock once and now my keyboard inputs CAPS when the caps LED is off [04:02] and lower case when the CAPS LED IS on [04:03] basically Caps Lock key/LED are backwards [04:03] really weird :) [04:03] DSpair: maybe add them to the initrd? [04:05] DSpair: add them to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules (I think) and then run update-initramfs [04:06] alex_mayorga, yeah, that's weird [04:06] is there anyway to add applets to the panel in ubuntu netbook remix? [04:06] alex_mayorga, maybe swithching to tty, pressing the caps lock, and going back to X solves that [04:06] that, or rebooting [04:06] i'm going [04:07] good bye! [04:07] Nitsuga: can you try your caps lock on OOo Calc? [04:07] I was on it when the problem started [04:08] Steil: No, there isn't. The top panel is probably too small to handle all the things we put in there *and* more. [04:08] DSpair: that will help if it's a module issue. but if you actually need a service to be started for lvm then a 'start on' statement in the upstart scripts might be wrong [04:08] alex_mayorga, works [04:10] RAOF: do you know of anything that'll put a notifcation area icon so i can monitor my cpu scaling? [04:10] Steil: Not off the top of my head, no. There's a CPU docklet for Docky, but that's unlikely to be what you're after. [04:12] Steil: right click on the top panel, "Add to Panel..." pick "CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor", Add [04:12] that's on gnome [04:13] alex_mayorga: Apparently you can't add applets to the panel in netbook remix [04:13] Stik: yes you can, there's just no space to do so by default [04:13] Stik: sorry, mistab [04:14] Steil: ** [04:14] Steil: sorry, I didn't know the netbook part [04:14] rww: Do i need to do it through gconf then? [04:14] Steil: you could just move one of the other applets over. Moving the notification area left and using the space to the right of it works for me [04:15] I've found weird things happening when I use ibus: I end up with my notification-area getting wider and wider and wider and wider and wider and wider and wider, until it pushes my leftmost launchers ON TOP of my menus! [04:17] rww: The applet is showing up as locked....and gconf-editor is complaining the key is unwritable when i try to unlock it [04:19] anyone can tell me how to direct upgrade to Ubuntu Lucid alpha 3 from Karmic? [04:20] hello? [04:20] How to upgrade to Lucid from Karmic, may I know? [04:23] xfact: Press Alt-F2, type "update-manager -d" (without quotes), it should tell you that 10.04 is available [04:23] xfact: it is advised that you backup all important data [04:28] DanaG, the new notification area in gnome-shell is a small bar across the bottom of the screen [04:29] hmm, I'm not speaking of gnome-shell, though. [04:29] yes, but you can switch over to it [04:29] Interesting... so instead, I'll have a "small bar across the bottom of my screen" randomly leaking space. [04:29] it's int he ricotz ppa [04:29] Do you think Alpha 3 is enough stable for ordinary home works? [04:30] xfact: no [04:30] space usage fail: http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Screenshot-gnomeshell.png [04:31] DanaG, WoW! What is this, the screen is looking so smart! [04:31] That's gnome-shell last time I tried it. [04:31] yep [04:31] looks a bit different now [04:31] oh, and there's that weird blur on the text on "network..." [04:31] looks exactly the same in karmic [04:32] and obviously you should be using more than just one desktop [04:32] I'm used to using 4 desktops with compiz... ctrl-alt-arrow. [04:32] vivid, the latest version, 2.29 is in ricotz ppa [04:32] maybe, im partial to non-compositing wms [04:32] I stick with Compiz. [04:33] Nice animations (such as lamp), and nice Scale Windows thingy. [04:33] And a taskbar, imagine that! [04:33] =þ [04:33] i dont care for animations [04:33] give me a terminal and thats all it takes really [04:33] Now, those FLAMES things ARE stupid, I'll give you that. [04:33] Burning windows? horribly horribly distracting. [04:34] Doesn't even look cool. [04:34] what about the snow/water one? [04:34] and the gears? [04:34] Eh, that's for when you WANT to be distracted. [04:34] thats because you left out your snowflakes [04:34] =þ [04:34] and the multiple plugins that do the same thing but have different names [04:34] Try using up, down, left, right arrows from the icon theme, instead of snowflake images. [04:34] =þ [04:35] It's like D-D-R (game). =þ [04:35] Word assocations for me: DDR = RAM. [04:35] so when exactly is "alpha 3" out? [04:35] DDR = old germany :P [04:36] vivid: guessing within a day or so [04:37] Changelog for rfkill: Constification. [04:37] =þ [04:37] yea the calendar says tomorrow, just curious though [04:38] vivid: it is just a roadmap with no guaraties [04:39] exactly why im curious :o [04:44] DanaG: used shells a lot? [04:44] Shells? [04:44] Plural? [04:44] gnome-shell [04:44] No, I don't like it. [04:45] At least, I didn't like it the last 3 times I tried it. [04:45] I also tried it and prefer the way it is now [04:47] good lucid is sticking to old gnome and is lts. [04:49] gnome-shell is nice because its more practical [04:49] I find it LESS practical. [04:50] And the animations annoy me to no end -- a minimize should NOT feel exactly the same as a "close". [04:50] really? you find snowflakes and wobbly windows practical? [04:50] No, I don't use snowflakes, and I have my wobbly relatively tame. [04:50] I don't go moving windows all the time, you know. [04:50] Compiz defaults can be stupid... but it can be nice once tweaked right. [04:50] That's the problem: it takes tweaking to get it nice. [04:51] too much flash, not enough functionality [04:51] That's only true if you MAKE it so. [04:51] I could say the same about OS X and its dock. [04:51] either way, it holds the same functionality metacity does [04:52] and with compisiting, looks about the same too [04:52] Plus the scale thingy, and zoom. [04:52] compositing* [04:52] mac is just a bad interface [04:52] yeah. [04:52] heh, my dad got my mom a mac, and hates it every time he uses it... yet is too stubborn to let me put even win7 on the thing. [04:53] as long as i have tabbed terminal windows and firefox i dont care for much else, so i dont use much of the fx's [04:53] me either, but thats why i like gnome-shell [04:53] because it adds more than just pretty effects [04:53] everything is one click [04:54] I find it adds LAAAAGH, last time I tried. [04:54] It takes me exactly one click to click the firefox launcher on my panel. [04:54] Takes 2 clicks to get there in gnome-shell. [04:54] Or a hover and a click. [04:54] what if you want to browse your drive? [04:54] it was unstable and slow when i tried it to, [04:54] alt-f2, . [04:54] opens home dir. [04:54] yeah, just run "." in gnome run thingy. [04:55] or go places->drive_name (or whatever). [04:55] or you could just hover and click the app you want [04:55] I'd be okay with gnome-shell if it, A, had a taskbar, and B, let me change the animations. [04:55] or file, movie, song whatever [04:56] yea not having a taskbar is strange [04:56] It totally breaks my ability to do anything, often. [04:56] when like it when im doing work [04:56] really easy to switch between the 20 apps i have scattered [04:56] yet all easily viewable [04:57] I do same with compiz: mouse to lower-right corner. [04:57] hmm, I should try gnomesHell again, since you say it's changed recently. [04:57] good old alt-tab works to [04:57] i would almost bet money that compiz wont be default for much longer : / [04:57] yeah, caps on purpose. [04:58] its not the same as alt-tabbing between apps [04:58] lol...havent seen it written like that before [04:58] =þ [04:58] speaking of gnomes: [04:59] http://www.perpetualkid.com/mini-gnome-be-gone-gnomebearers.aspx [05:00] oh, here's my compiz profile: www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Dana_Compiz.profile [05:00] There are some settings there for non-enabled plugins, from previous use. [05:02] super-tab is ring-switcher; I use it once in, oh, a blue moon or two. [05:04] there is a nice thing in xubuntu i think, move mouse into top left corner and get all windows on screen like an alt-tab thing....not sure it is in normal compiz [05:04] i thought xfce used its own wm [05:05] ye, it is xfce thing [05:08] hmm, so is ricotz ppa also for lucid? [05:10] i dunno, but i liked the older version better [05:11] its a shame it has no configuration [05:12] hmm, new gnome-shell [05:12] hmm, new gnome shell has better animations, at least. [05:12] looking the same? [05:12] Namely, minimize is a "zoom", and close is just plain nothing. [05:13] i dont like them :p [05:13] Try my compiz profile (export your settings first), and you'll see what I'm comparing gnome-shell to. [05:13] screen flickers all over when i touch the calendar [05:13] hmm, the Activities thing is still horridly laggy, though. [05:13] Looks like about 3 or 4 FPS. [05:13] er, fine, maybe 8. [05:13] this version seems more jerky to me [05:14] but its not that slow [05:14] does it have a showfps option? [05:14] DanaG: have a big gpu? [05:14] what the heck? I turn on sidebar and RIGHT-CLICK an app... and it LAUNCHES the app. [05:14] That's just as wrong as Apple making Enter RENAME things. [05:15] Enter renames things? [05:15] danag: how do compiz affect power consumption? is it much? [05:15] In OS X, yes. [05:15] when does it do that? [05:15] hmm, on Intel, there's about ZERO effect for me. [05:15] On Radeon... well, radeon PM is lacking anyway, for now. [05:16] :) [05:16] Especially with KMS. [05:16] 46 watts with KMS; 17 watts with fglrx. [05:16] yeah [05:16] Or so my battery says. [05:16] i only have intel in my netbook [05:17] okay, since right-click launches the app, how do I REMOVE an app from the sidebar? [05:17] DanaG: apt-get purge? [05:17] oh, even with sidebar enabled, I still have to go to Activities to have working right-click. [05:18] Argh, that Activities thing is still so unintuitive. [05:18] I expect it to be a menu. [05:18] It sure doesn't look like a button! [05:19] think you are supose to type, like in gnome-do [05:19] oh, and alt-f1 doesn't toggle. [05:19] does normal gnome toggle menus upon repeated alt-f1? [05:19] yes [05:20] alt-f1 activates menu [05:20] and alt-f1 again closes it? [05:20] esc to close [05:20] doing it twice have no effect [05:23] hm, ctrl-alt-arrow not working right away... also bugs me. [05:24] My compiz animations: open is dream, close is sidekick. min/unmin is lamp. menu open/close is vacuum (like the mouse slurping up a noodle). [05:24] oh, and neither super-l or ctrl-alt-l lock the screen. [05:24] no padlock button on the keyboard? :P [05:27] nope. shouldn't need one. [05:27] even win95 had super-l to lock. [05:29] ctrl-alt-del + enter [05:29] [3;7~ [05:29] yay [05:29] re, that's on my other system. [05:29] er. [05:32] anyway, I'm still not impressed, but now it's less bad. =þ [05:35] hard to find the app's they are all in one group [05:39] have 2 terminals open you ned to do arrow down when alt-tab'ing [05:49] wtb taskbar in shell [06:03] alpha 3 - available yet? [06:04] http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha3 [06:05] should show on that page when i do [06:05] *it [06:06] ok i'll come back in a couple of hours [06:30] is Alpha 3 out? [06:31] Damascene, it should show in Channel title or http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha3 will be active [06:33] I've got an email on QA mail list from some one who clam to be using alpha 3 [06:36] Wow. Maybe we should all take a holiday and just download it from him ;-) [06:37] :D === kermiac_ is now known as kermiac [06:39] That's nothing, I'm using Ubuntu 16.10 here. It's marvelous ;D [06:40] you are form the future then :) [06:40] No, I'm from the internet. :) [06:40] :P [06:40] The internet? That's near Russia, isn't it? [06:42] Hey, does anyone know what the deal is with xf86-input-wacom on Kubuntu? Doesn't seem to be in the repo's yet it's in packages.ubuntu.com under main... [06:44] hey so since the last round of updates, i've lost my battery from power manager....any ideas? [07:09] lo [07:13] Damascene: maybe one of the iso testimages (http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/) [07:14] espen77, is there some issue with the link certificate [07:17] Damascene: waiting for a3 is offissialy out. Havent tried those images [07:19] Damascene: bether off spending the time praying that wacom input will work in a3 :P [07:20] lucid alpha have not been quite unstable to me [07:21] if I said it right [07:21] it has been suprisingly stabile [07:21] Damascene, you used a double-negative there, is is stable or unstable for you? [07:22] stable, bad english [07:23] I've been running Alpha since beginning of the month - had my first hard lockup yesterday. Others have not been so lucky. [07:24] ZykoticK9: maybe depending on what hw u use, i have been running it sins begining of december and no problems at all, except for software-center [07:26] espen77, certainly agree it's hardware that seems to have the most impact with stability on Lucid (same could probably be said for any OS mind you). For Alpha software I find Lucid amazingly stable, I've certainly reported bugs but hey that's what Alpha/Beta software is for [07:26] ZykoticK9: exactly [08:41] Would anyone here care to confirm if Bug #510571 exists in the current lucid version of virtualbox? [08:41] Launchpad bug 510571 in virtualbox-ose "Lucid guest won't boot with acpi in virtualbox" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/510571 [08:45] arand: I had the problem 1-2 weeks ago, anyway. [08:46] SwedeMike: this on Lucid? [08:46] but since I found out about it I've always booted with acpi=off so I don't know if it's still there. [08:46] this is in 10.04. [08:47] SwedeMike: Mind testing? I'm trying to figure out how much patching is to be done.. [08:47] arand: the box is at home, I can test in 8 hours. [08:48] SwedeMike: Cheers, either ping me or comment on the bug ↑↑ [08:49] sure, if I haven't responded in 10 hours, please remind me here. === DJones_ is now known as DJones === |thade| is now known as Alexia [09:47] dudez... i just tried installing 10.04 on an ssd with GPT and grub is having an issue with it [09:49] i selected /dev/sdb1 during install instead of both that and /dev/sdb.... so perhaps an error should come up when someone does that?? i mean, it still saw grub, but here's the "error: the symbl 'grub_term_outputs_disabled' not found.. Grub rescue >" [09:50] but this was recommended to me... [09:50] >>> [09:45] grndslm, Yes, the Ubuntu installer should create a BIOS boot partition on GPT systems. [09:51] grndslm, That comment was referring to the error from grub-install. A BIOS boot partition would not have helped when you set grub to install only to a partition. [09:51] well... the new installer is whack... that's all i gotta say [09:52] grndslm, You also know I hope that this is *not* the place to report bugs if you actually want to see them fixed. [09:53] yea... i'm not a bug reporter [09:53] just hopin' somebody could figure out how to install it to the GPT or MBR or whatever... [09:54] so i wouldn't have to spend these few hours reinstalling all these tweaks again [09:54] grndslm, Why don't you file bug reports? [09:54] too complicated for an issue that will more than likely resolve itself [09:55] grndslm, It won't resolve itself without a bug report [09:55] well... i'll highly consider it after tonight [09:56] Jordan_U: soo... reinstall is my only choice, eh? [09:56] grndslm, I never said that. [09:56] grndslm, Unless you mean re-installing grub [09:57] Jordan_U: i already reinstalled grub with chroot [09:57] grndslm, And is grub now working? [09:57] NOT working [09:57] grndslm, Did you add --force to grub-install or create a BIOS boot partition? [09:58] Jordan_U: --force not create the BIOS boot partition [09:58] i'm not sure what that is [09:58] grndslm, What happens now when you try to boot? [09:58] Jordan_U: same thing.... "error: the hsymbol 'grub_term_outputs_disabled' not found... Grub rescue >' [09:59] *symbol [09:59] grndslm, Are you sure that you are booting from the drive you installed grub to? [10:00] Jordan_U: i must be... it's been sdb the whole time [10:00] i've checked that it's the 60gb everytime [10:00] grndslm, How have you checked? [10:00] df -Th most of the time [10:00] grndslm, I mean the boot order in the BIOS. [10:01] been sdb everytime, afaik :-/ [10:01] what is on your sda? [10:01] vista [10:01] still bootable? [10:01] gpt on sdb [10:01] grndslm, You may have installed grub to the correct drive but I am pretty sure that is not the one you are currently booting from. [10:01] espen77: no... i get that error above about the symbol not being found [10:02] for vista to? [10:02] Jordan_U: if i remove the cable from the vista drive, do you think it'd work? [10:02] grndslm, Yes [10:02] nice... i'll try [10:21] there's a bug in the installer!! with grub & gpt partitions... [10:22] i selected /dev/sdb1 (NOT /dev/sdb as well)... and now i'm having all kindsa problems [10:22] it even wrote over a vista drive i also had setup as /dev/sda1, WHEN IT WASN'T SELECTED!!! [11:31] you cant really compress mp3 can you (change size of dir) right? [12:04] i [12:04] hi [12:05] when was lucid alpha3 supposed to be out? [12:05] wasnt it today? [12:06] pa, if it was today it can still be released, think of the timezones :P [12:07] yes i know, but when then? [12:09] pa: ubuntu doesn't give a specific time zone, or a specific time [12:10] so it will be out "sometime" today. Depending on your timezone it could be early tomorrow [12:10] i see.. [12:11] Good morning all. [12:12] I'm having an issue with LVM2 on my Lucid desktop and I'm hoping someone here might be able to help me out. [12:13] When booting Lucid, I kep getting a screen which reads "Waiting for /home [SM]". The "/home" filesystem on my computer is an LVM2 volume, and I am assuming that it is failing because the device mapper is not starting in time for it to mount . [12:13] How can I get the file system mounter to wait for the device mapper before trying to mount /home? [13:10] Will gnome-shell be made the default in 10.04? [13:12] theadmin: no [13:12] sanderqd: Well... too bad. Thanks [13:28] does anyone have any idea what causes aptitude to give me a this error when I try to update? *** glibc detected *** aptitude: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0a18f650 *** (http://pastebin.com/QW6wqG3K) [13:34] 64bit? [13:36] no [13:58] nizuri: in Lucid? [14:00] nizuri: http://paste.ubuntu.com/383688/ [14:00] need an idea on what command you are using [14:02] gnomefreak yes, lucid server [14:03] gnomefreak: sudo aptitude update [14:04] * gnomefreak running atm [14:05] nizuri: i can not reproduce your bug. pleae file a bug on it that way someone can look at it. unless mvo_ is here but i get this feeling he is gone for the day [14:06] gnomefreak: ok, i'll do that. thank you [14:06] nizuri: np [14:10] nizuri: out of curiosity, if you downgrade to https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/i386/aptitude/0.4.11.11-1ubuntu8 (previous lucid version) - does that help (I assume you run lucid) [14:10] (http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37134135/aptitude_0.4.11.11-1ubuntu8_i386.deb) [14:11] sorry thought you were gone for the day [14:12] i'll gitve it a try [14:13] W: The "upgrade" command is deprecated; use "safe-upgrade" instead. :( [14:19] hey, is alpha 3 coming out today or what? [14:21] gnomefreak, mvo_ : that fixed it. [14:21] nizuri: can you please file a bug and mention that then? [14:21] nizuri: I think I know what the problem is [14:22] nizuri: (make sure to mention its a regression compared to -8 ) [14:22] hey gnomefreak [14:22] mvo_: yep, i'll add that. thanks to both of you [14:23] lucidanxiety: hey, is alpha 3 coming out today or what? [14:23] nizuri: thank you! and give me the bugnumber please once its there, I will target it then [14:32] :) hey guys [14:32] hey [14:33] are there any updates for amarok in the pipline as it seems to be missing stop fastforward rewind buttons [14:34] hi mvo_ [14:36] mvo_: I added it to this bugreport, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/515525 [14:36] Launchpad bug 515525 in aptitude "aptitude assert failure: *** glibc detected *** aptitude: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08f9d658 ***" [Medium,Triaged] [14:36] thanks nizuri [14:36] np === mbeierl1 is now known as mbeierl [14:45] howdy [14:45] hi [14:47] hi gnomefreak , what's up ? [14:47] not much just been busy. [14:50] why would virtualBox state I have an i686 when I have a AMD64 running x86_64? [14:51] hi [14:53] GUYS!! i've got a bug report!! [14:53] i installed lucid on my new 60gb ssd... had vista already installed on a 140gb hdd... [14:55] everything booted fine after install... but whenever i upgraded the grub-pc package, it kept giving me an error every boot thereafter: "the symbol 'grub_term_outputs_disabled' not found... Grub rescue >" [14:55] * gnomefreak wonders what the issue is [14:55] ah [14:55] the solution was to "sudo parted /dev/sdb set 1 bios_grub on" [14:55] crazeej: i have never seen that before [14:55] crazeej: maybe file a bug report [14:55] i'm thinking that bios boot partition thingy should've been automatic [14:56] gnomefreak, yea, i don't know the best way to do that [14:56] file it under grub? under parted? [14:56] on launchpad? [14:56] crazeej: in terminal type ubuntu-bug grub-pc [14:56] and follow the questions [14:57] nice... much easier than i thought... would've been filing bug reports for years if i knew it was this easy!! [15:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/527833 [15:19] Error: This bug is private [15:19] private!? [15:21] crazeej: yes personal info. it will be marked differently once someone checks it [15:23] hey guys [15:23] hi eagles0513875 [15:23] gnomefreak: im having an issue with amarok actually it seems like there is an issues with some playback buttons missing [15:24]