=== bladernr_ is now known as bladernr-away === fader_ is now known as fader|away [04:16] np highvoltage [04:16] oh wait, that was from ages ago [04:16] * mhall119|work should go to sleep === DJones_ is now known as DJones === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn === fader|away is now known as fader_ === bladernr-away is now known as bladernr_ === lukjad007 is now known as lukjad86 === fader_ is now known as fader|away === fader|away is now known as fader_ === fader_ is now known as fader|away === fader|away is now known as fader_ === robbiew_ is now known as robbiew [16:00] Hi everyone! [16:01] hi [16:01] Hi from Vietnam :) [16:01] hello [16:01] hi trijntje, vdquynh, sianis :-) [16:02] let's see who else is here for the translations meeting [16:03] kelemengabor: ping [16:03] o/ [16:03] hey adiroiban [16:03] sianis: pong [16:04] so it seems we've got quite a good attendance from different teams today [16:04] Im from Norway [16:04] hey Malin_, welcome! how is the Norwegian team doing? [16:05] dpm, I don't know, I was just curious about translating, so I'm not in part of the team ;) [16:05] no worries, hopefully you'll learn something new and exciting about translations today :) [16:05] o/ [16:05] so let's get started, shall we? [16:06] hey sergimateo_, how's life in l'Hospitalet? [16:06] [TOPIC] Review of the Ubuntu Translations policies and best practices [16:06] So as I commented on the mailing list [16:07] It's basically about [16:07] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase#Policies [16:07] and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase#Guidelines [16:07] Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to finish the guidelines yet, so I'll focus on the policies on this meeting [16:07] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase#Policies [16:07] Essentially, I want to see what you guys think, and if you believe they constitute something we can use as the basis to give some more structure to the project [16:08] yeah I just would take a look :) [16:08] for some teams it will not be any change [16:08] but for others, especially the part of the guidelines, will affect them [16:08] for the best, though :) [16:09] I'd like to discuss some of the particular points separately, but first some general feedback, so what do you think? [16:09] dpm: I am worried of one thing... not to have to many documentation pages for translations [16:10] there are already a lot of pages and a lot of information [16:10] the pages are great [16:10] but I am not sure if new teams [16:10] will not be turned down by so many requirements [16:10] I am worried especialy on new teams [16:11] since they start without knowing anything about translations [16:11] they have few resoursec (people/time) [16:12] adiroiban, yeah, that's a good point. That was also one of the reasons I tried to keep the policies short and simple as well, and make the guidelines not a requirement for starting the team [16:12] small teams < 5 contributors [16:12] in the Policies section [16:12] we have 8 links [16:13] i think we should choose one page that is important for all teams [16:13] and add it in the header [16:13] or make it bold [16:13] Recently we've started pointing teams out to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/StartingTeam, and I think we could use this. I think as the policies as a reference document [16:13] or make it blink [16:13] :) [16:13] :-) [16:14] I mean, I'd point teams to the policies when they've got questions, e.g. "why does our team needs to be moderated"? [16:15] StartingTeam is a good page... [16:15] but it can get lost among the other 7 links from the policies [16:15] adiroiban, what do you think of the above, then? I.e. using the StartingTeam page only and make it prominent in the front Translations page [16:15] (which is screaming for a rework, btw :) ) [16:16] I am not sure what is the best sollution [16:17] I will think about it :) [16:17] the idea is to highlight the information that each team coordinator MUST read [16:17] and make it accesible (easy to find and easy to read) [16:17] StartingTeam is easy to read [16:17] not so easy to find [16:18] I think I could spend some time simplifying the front page and try to make it more useful and make it easy to find that page, this might be a start [16:18] putting a link from the start page would be a start [16:18] KnowledgeBase sound like an place to store info for existing teams [16:18] ok, so I think that's a good plan to start with, thanks adiroiban [16:19] another thing, would me mailinglists [16:19] not sure if we should ask each team to have its own mailinglist [16:19] the Romanian l10n team is using the Romanian LoCo team [16:20] The problem with mailing-lists is when you get subscribed to so many :-/ [16:20] and we have low traffic [16:20] We're not asking them to have a mailing list, just a communication channel, be it forum, another ML, etc [16:20] we mainly use the forum [16:20] we use ubuntu-l10n-hu [16:20] yeah, I know the problem vdquynh :-) [16:22] dpm: ok. but then how do we/translators know what comunication channel is used in a team [16:22] and for that [16:22] I was thinking [16:22] to add a requirement [16:22] to list a set of info on the Launchpad teams page [16:22] I agree with adiroiban! [16:23] the dutch team uses a mailinglist [16:23] +1 to contact information on teampage [16:23] dpm: and make this wikipage https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Contact/Teams ... distributed on each team LP page [16:23] adiroiban, like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/LaunchpadTeam#TeamPage ? [16:24] dpm: yes [16:25] ok, but just to move forward on that one, we do all agree that we should ask for a communication channel (any) as best practice, don't we? === fader_ is now known as fader|away [16:26] yes. a communication channe is a must [16:27] yeah, every team needs one, be it ml or forum [16:27] ok, great [16:27] adiroiban, what exactly do you mean with making the Contact/Teams page distributed on each team's LP page? [16:28] you mean basically having the info that's there on the team's home page in LP? [16:28] dpm: the information for each row of that table [16:28] to be find on each teams page [16:28] I get you [16:28] and then delete that wikipage [16:28] yeah, I agree [16:29] as it is redundant [16:29] and hard to maintain... [16:29] ok, I agree as well, but I'd like to maintain it until at least the teams there have migrated the info to each team's page [16:30] dpm: sure [16:30] we already have some hints about editing the teams LP page on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/StartingTeam [16:31] yeah, some of the content there I should just reuse and use Includes [16:31] there is a bit of redundant info on the StartingTeam page [16:31] yep [16:32] but I wanted to make it easy for new teams to have all important info there [16:32] without having to click too much around [16:32] but it's ok [16:32] Team information [16:32] on Team information [16:33] it would be nice to have a link to an already existent team [16:33] as an example [16:33] en_UK should do the trick... as it will only contain text in english [16:33] good point, I was thinking of the Romanian one, though ;) [16:35] that's a good idea, I should contact the British team to make sure we can use them as an example [16:35] i'm done with the comments for policies... and I invite others to comment :) [16:36] yeah, I'd simply like to hear if people are happy with them, if you find them useful and make sure they do not become too much of a burden [16:36] while at the same time [16:36] being an improvement [16:37] in how the project and teams are run === jono_ is now known as jono [16:39] I have no particular comments on the policies. They're fine. Anyway, I can see that the Vietnamese translation team abides by the rules :-) [16:39] that's great, thanks for the feedback vdquynh :) [16:40] I think they are fine too, nothing too burocratic [16:40] We are rather, IMHO, working loosely as a team, with evryone rather working in its corner, but the final result so far is better than expected and in progress. [16:41] I was talking of the VN Tanslation team ! [16:42] that's great vdquynh. Sometimes a wiki for tracking assignments, and setting goals helps with working more as a team, perhaps you could try that, in case you're not already doing it [16:42] anyway, I'm glad to hear that and there seems to be general consensus on the policies [16:43] I can think of two other things which might represent a change for some teams: requirement of guidelines and requirement for the team coordinator to be subscribed to the ML [16:44] I thought that the guidelines you get directed to from launchpad where language specific, but it seems they are language + ubuntu specific? [16:45] trijntje, they are language + translation group specific [16:45] trijntje: i guess they should be the guidelines for the Ubuntu translation team [16:45] so for ubuntu you get directed to the Ubuntu ones for your language [16:45] but for example, for Romanian we only have some notes about upstream connection and then link to a general language guidelines [16:47] any comments on subscription to the ML? Do you think the traffic on the list is too high to ask coordinators to subscribe? Someone commented me some time ago it might be an idea to have a separate list only for announcements, and ask people to subscribe to that one, but I'm not very keen on the idea [16:47] the ubuntu-translators traffic is low (after my standards) [16:47] dpm: not too high [16:48] dpm: it isn't high [16:48] for annoucement only we can use a RSS feed [16:48] or a blog [16:48] or something [16:48] and asking everybody to subscribe is not the same as asking them to read everything ;) [16:48] but the ML should encourage discussion and the exchange of ideas/probles/best practices [16:49] :) [16:49] adiroiban: I think planet is good enough [16:49] for annoucement [16:50] yep... but i think annoucements where a different issues [16:50] and we touched this topic in a previos meeting === fader|away is now known as fader_ [16:51] ok, I already knew we wouldn't have time to cover all topics, so we can postpone the rest for the next meeting or the ML. Any other input on policies, any particular points you'd like to highlight/discuss? === bladernr_ is now known as bladernr-afk [16:52] otherwise we can dedicate the last few mins to Lucid translations Q&A, if there are any questions [16:52] dpm: at least this meeting was more animated than the previous ones [16:52] so I guess this is a good thing [16:52] \o/ [16:52] + we are always on the #ubuntu-translators [16:52] I have a general question about upstream: Should translators submit translations from launchpad upstream? [16:52] I think it is good to request Ubuntu translation team leaders to subscribe to the ubuntu-translators ML ! [16:53] so if someone want to raise an issue we can talk ... at almost any time [16:54] trijntje: the should... [16:54] but is not that easy [16:54] trijntje, in general, yes. You'll find more basic info there: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Upstream [16:54] as it requires extra resources [16:55] trijntje, it is currently not done automatically, so you have to manually export the PO fiels and send them upstream, or translate upstream [16:55] but cant upstream just fetch the translations form launchpad? [16:56] adiroiban: perhaps we could help on this... esp. on this part of the wiki: "Find out where upstream is" [16:56] trijntje: they could, as anyone can [16:56] but everybody waits for somebody to do it [16:56] kelemengabor: we can hint them where to send [16:56] Anyway you would need coordination betwenn the launchpad team and the upstream team (eg GNOME and Firefox and OOo) [16:56] so nobody will do it :) [16:56] but not all teams for all languages are active [16:56] and not all have the same process [16:57] kelemengabor: for a „normal” translator it almost imposible to send translation to more than one upstream project [16:58] as it needs to read a lot of pages [16:58] subscribe to all kind of different tracking system [16:58] adiroiban: I know, this is why even I don't do it [16:58] comunicate with all kind of persons [16:59] but the other way around, upstream would also have to fetch it from 10 different places [16:59] trijntje: yes... [16:59] well, maybe ill look into it after lucid is done [16:59] but right now [16:59] there is only Ubuntu doing translations downstream [16:59] :) [16:59] so [16:59] right now [17:00] upstream will only have to get the translations from their upstream repository + ubuntu repository [17:00] trijntje, yeah, the idea is to automate this at some point in LP, and adapt to each upstream to send them translations, but for now it still needs to be done manually [17:00] trijntje: and also inside upstream teams there are problems how to send translations [17:01] anyway, the meeting is over, but we can continue the discussion at any time on #ubuntu-translators [17:01] adiroiban, don't suse and arch and fedora etc translate? [17:01] Thank you everyone for participating [17:01] dpm: it this mean, that the export process of LP will b fixed? [17:01] trijntje: I don't think so [17:02] they are only translating their OWN applications [17:02] OK. Bye everyone. I have work to do for to-morrow and its midnight here in VN ! [17:02] but they are not translating GNOME or Firefox [17:03] sianis, it's on the roadmap: https://dev.launchpad.net/VersionFourDotO/Stories#Translations, but it will take some time to be implemented, for now there's just the idea [17:03] So again, thanks for the great feedback and see you on #ubuntu-translators! [17:04] bye everyone! [17:04] bye all [17:04] bye === bladernr-afk is now known as bladernr_ === toabctl_ is now known as toabctl === rafael_carreras_ is now known as rafael_carreras === yofel_ is now known as yofel === czajkowski is now known as goodw00t === goodw00t is now known as czajkowski === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [22:52] * greg-g waves [22:52] * oubiwann waves back [22:54] * fader_ embarrassedly half-waves in case anyone were waving at him. [22:55] hoping it wasn't someone stood behind you? [22:55] * dylanmccall is in deep concentration, deciding whether to wave [22:56] james_w: Exactly. I'm trying to be an extroverted geek by staring at your shoes instead of my own. :) [22:56] :-) [22:56] hehe [22:56] * akgraner waves o/ to greg-g et al :-) [22:56] hiya akgraner [22:56] QUESTION: for our interview, do we need the people who gave us testimonials to be in this chatroom during the process?? [22:57] brettalton: no, it is nice if they can be here, but if their testimonial is on your wiki page, you're fine. [22:57] greg-g: okay, thank you! [22:57] brettalton, nope they don't have to be but it is always nice to have people in the channel for you.. [22:57] hi everyone :) [22:58] akgraner: thanks! [22:59] ho talking about the membership? :D you ask what type of question for the interview, i need a little preparation to answer in english ^^" [23:00] #startmeeting [23:00] Meeting started at 17:00. The chair is pleia2. [23:00] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [23:00] Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the [23:00] Americas meeting for February. The wiki page for the Review Board is [23:00] available here: [23:00] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/Americas [23:00] We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. [23:01] The format for the meeting is as follows: [23:01] We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO). [23:01] Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions. [23:01] During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote. [23:01] When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!) [23:01] Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant... [23:01] Flare183 (if you're here), you're up! [23:02] I think not [23:02] I'll drop them an email to remind them that they're on the list [23:02] alright then, how about dylanmccall [23:02] [TOPIC] dylanmccall membership [23:02] New Topic: dylanmccall membership [23:02] Hi! [23:03] So, as my name suggests, my name is Dylan McCall. My Wiki page is over at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DylanMccall [23:03] I have been happily using Ubuntu since (I think) around 2006. I really dove straight in to the fun technical stuff at that point :) [23:04] I've keenly followed development since then, especially the blogs and Launchpad infrastructure. [23:05] Recently I have become a bit more involved in contributing fixes to bugs and with the Vancouver loco. [23:05] I know dylanmccall's background a bit from the ubiquity slideshow work, in which I am working with shtylman on the Kubuntu side of it, and I know he is here for a while :) my only questions is this, if you are currently in Vancouver, how cool is the Olympics stuff there? Seeing as us in Chicago, will probably never get to have an Olympics here :) [23:06] It's probably the most people I have ever seen using public transit in Vancouver :) [23:06] cool! [23:07] hehe, and if you ever meet the young lady, that after the USA beat Canada in hockey (rubbing it in just a little bit), that held up the sign "At least we have healthcare", please shake her hand and tell her that was one of the most awesome things I have ever witnessed :) [23:07] looks like you are subscribed to a few blueprints in LP, are you working on much outside of the ubiquity slideshow stuff? [23:08] I am, although I've definitely focused mainly on the slideshow for the last while [23:09] dylanmccall: good deal [23:09] [VOTE] dylanmccall membership [23:09] Please vote on: dylanmccall membership. [23:09] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [23:09] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [23:09] (please only board members vote :)) [23:09] +1 [23:09] +1 received from beuno. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [23:09] +1 [23:09] +1 [23:09] +1 received from greg-g. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [23:09] +1 received from pleia2. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [23:09] +1 [23:09] +1 received from Technoviking. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [23:09] +1 [23:09] +1 received from nixternal. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 [23:09] [endvote] [23:09] Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5 [23:10] dylanmccall: http://dylanmccall.blogspot.com/2009/07/w3c-boycottnovell-is-invalid.html <- by far one of my more favorite posts of yours... [23:10] congrats and welcome, dylanmccall! [23:10] Holy cow, I am lagging really bad, apologies if I don't respond to something. [23:10] congrats and welcome dylanmccall \o/ [23:10] congrats, dylanmccall [23:10] congrats dylanmccall [23:10] Thanks, folks! :) [23:10] congratulations dylanmccall! [23:10] [TOPIC] Pendulum membership [23:10] New Topic: Pendulum membership [23:11] Hiya! (btw, I apologize now as my computer has started acting up so hopefully it'll behave for the next few minutes :) ) [23:11] I'm Pendulum or Penelope Stowe [23:11] my wiki is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Pendulum [23:11] wow Pendulum, all of your testimonials were looking great until I saw akgraner's name in there :p [23:11] whooo Pendulum [23:11] :D [23:11] I've been using Ubuntu off and on since 2007 [23:12] mostly I'm involved in Ubuntu Women and I co-organized and lead the first Ubuntu User Day this January [23:12] I'm also involved in Ubuntu NGO as co-head of the Advocacy team and the other main thing I do is work on transcribing the Ubuntu Uk Podcast [23:12] Pendulum: can you tell me a little bit more about the AAC project? [23:14] greg-g: not much has happened with it yet, we've mostly been researching, but mgdm and I are trying to figure out a way to create an open source alterantive communication aid for people who can't talk [23:14] yeah, that AAC idea looks groovy. I know maco2 is working on an app to teach signing...accessibility love! [23:14] greg-g: if I may add something here? It's something we've been reading up on, it hasn't developed into actual code yet, but that's entirely my fault [23:14] Pendulum has been a huge help in the #ubuntu-classroom, and helping to run the first Ubuntu User Day! [23:14] this came out of a friend of mine who stopped being able to talk after an operation over the summer and when she was looking as alternative assistive audio devices, they're all incredibly expensive [23:15] gotcha, well, good luck, I'm really interested in this topic [23:15] and mgdm and I thought "why can't this be done in an open source way on relatively inexpensive hardware?" [23:15] (I'm also disabled and there's a chance that in the future I'll benefit from such a device myself) [23:15] Pendulum: i had no idea you were hacking on adaptive tech, that's so awesome :D [23:15] why can't I ever come up with cool ideas like that? [23:16] nixternal: cause you;re trying to find a twitter client and spamming folks :p [23:16] hypa7ia: we haven't really started the hacking yet, just the research :) [23:16] Pendulum, what's missing from Ubuntu that you need to add OSX into the mix? [23:16] Pendulum: ping me after the meeting, we should talk :D [23:17] czajkowski: har har...my ex-wife emailed me today with a "WTF?" hahaha, she got spammed too [23:17] beuno: I work in publishing where we heavily depend on Quark and InDesign, also I have yet to find a good speech recognition software on Ubuntu (feel free to reccomend) and due to my disability, sometimes I can't physically type [23:18] Pendulum, I can't recommend, unfortunately, but it's good to know, thanks [23:18] I think we're about ready to vote, any more cheers for Pendulum? [23:18] so I use Ubuntu for most things and MacOS for work stuff and when I can't physically access ubuntu [23:18] yes! [23:18] Yes, definitely [23:18] I'll cheer [23:18] * h00k cheers [23:18] * gchick cheers [23:18] three times, at that. [23:18] rock on [23:18] o/ cheer for Pendulum [23:18] go Pendulum [23:19] she's pretty good and helps when you're swamped [23:19] [VOTE] Pendulum membership [23:19] Please vote on: Pendulum membership. [23:19] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [23:19] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [23:19] +1 [23:19] +1 received from nixternal. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 [23:19] +1 [23:19] +1 received from pleia2. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [23:19] +1 [23:19] +1 [23:19] +1 received from beuno. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [23:19] Cheers also from Pendulum [23:19] +1 received from greg-g. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [23:19] +1 [23:19] cheers here too [23:19] +1 received from Technoviking. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 [23:19] from me,* [23:19] [endvote] [23:19] Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5 [23:19] +1 [23:19] congrats and welcome Pendulum \o/ [23:19] \o/ congrats Pendulum [23:19] Pendulum: whoooo congrats :D [23:19] woohoo :) [23:19] Thank you!!!!!!! [23:19] congrats Pendulum!! I can't wait to read about your work in the future. And a delayed congrats to dylanmccall!! [23:19] yay! [23:19] congrats, Pendulum! [23:19] COngrats! [23:19] Pendulum: congratulations :D [23:19] congrats Pendulum [23:19] Congrats, Pendulum! :D [23:19] Congratulation, Pendulum :) [23:19] congrats :) [23:19] congrats Pendulum ! [23:19] Pendulum: *hugs* [23:19] wow, only one minute for voting? :s [23:19] woot! [23:19] congrats Pendulum :) [23:19] we are good like that :) [23:20] hypa7ia: the whole present board voted :) [23:20] hypa7ia, only board memebers vote ;) [23:20] [TOPIC] h00k membership [23:20] New Topic: h00k membership [23:20] GGreetings, I am Anthony Hook. You can find my wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AnthonyHook. I'm involved as the Team Contact in our Ubuntu Wisconsin LoCo (Which I just recently got a domain at http://ubuntu-wisconsin.org) [23:20] congrats pendulum! [23:20] wait a second, h00k have you been down to an Ubuntu Chicago event before? you look way to familiar [23:21] The site is still in its infancy and is a work in progress. [23:21] nixternal: I have not :( [23:21] we had/have a guy who comes down from Milwaukee and he looks very much the same :) [23:21] * exigraff was in chicago, but hasn't been projecting h00k's appearance that he's aware of [23:21] groovy! [23:21] pleia2: oops :) [23:21] nixternal: I have been invited to Madison to talk but haven't yet [23:22] this is awesome, tony, h00k, Ubuntu Chicago, Ubuntu Michigan...we need to do an Ubuntu Midwest one of these days! [23:22] h00k, you say "I am very interested in experiences of new users and in the ways to make it more positive". Care to expand on what you think can be done? [23:22] I've been using Ubuntu only for the past three years, I've been more heavily involved (bug reporting and testing various things) in the last few years [23:22] it has been discussed, but nothing really happened, nixternal [23:22] h00k: where do you all usually do your get togethers or meetings? I would be down for a road trip, and I could probably get greg-g to come with :) [23:23] h00k: how is the Wisconsin loco doing? [23:23] and, yeah, nixternal is probably right [23:23] nixternal: That would be fun, our meetings are generally online, but I'd be up for a road trip [23:23] beuno: I believe first-time experiences are important to new users as I've helped quite a number on campus. I think they should have access to help such as the #ubuntu irc channel (which I help out in) [23:24] beuno: I think a community is a very important step in this feeling welcoming process [23:24] I had no clue Wisconsin was starting to take off, seeing as I am only an hour from the border and go up to Door County quite a bit during the summer, and Madison as well for cycling, and then I do T.O.A.D. the Tour of America's Dairyland...great to see WI working it [23:24] h00k: wow, voicecheck seems neat, how is that going? [23:24] in a "break the notion that linux is really hard and only for leet hackers" kind of way. [23:25] pleia2: so far, it works, and it's only a command-line-app [23:25] pleia2: I'd like a gtk implementation soon, I'm learning about python using my new Tux Droid and I would like to add support for that [23:25] h00k: cool :) [23:26] greg-g: not to not-address-your-question: The Ubuntu Wisconsin LoCo has had quite a bit of activity online lately, we had our first meeting (in a few years) a couple weeks ago [23:26] h00k: awesome, how was that meeting? [23:26] greg-g: we are planning on participating in the upcoming Global Jam, we haven't decided which events yet, however. [23:26] h00k, I hear quickly is the future for gtk apps [23:27] and I hear qt is the future of mankind :p [23:27] heh [23:27] [VOTE] h00k membership [23:27] Please vote on: h00k membership. [23:27] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [23:27] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [23:27] +1 [23:27] +1 received from pleia2. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 [23:27] +1 [23:27] +1 received from beuno. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [23:27] +1 [23:27] +1 received from greg-g. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [23:27] greg-g: the meeting was good, we got quite a few good ideas for things, you can view the notes here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-wi/2010-February/000106.html [23:27] +1 [23:27] * tonyyarusso came in late, but wants to speak for h00k [23:27] +1 received from nixternal. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [23:27] h00k: thanks :) [23:27] tonyyarusso: looks like you don't need to :) [23:27] tonyyarusso: welcome! [23:27] He's done awesome work with LoCos, both Wisconsin and Minnesota. 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