=== dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [01:33] im trying to figure out what would cause mysql "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket" error to be produced [01:34] im benchmarking a script that needs to be scalable and I initiaded 300 mysql_connects in php, i get about 30 of the above errors [01:38] The mysql client has this stupid thing where connecting to "localhost" is a special case that makes it use sockets. [01:38] That's the only time I've seen that error. [01:43] smoser: around? [01:43] smoser: does this look familiar? * Excellent, working condition, nothing wrong with it [01:43] smoser: sorry ... wrong paste [01:43] smoser: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/383371/ [01:43] twb, what would you recommend as a 'fix'? [01:43] bobsomebody: you connect to 127.0.1.1 or something that's not hard-coded to be a stupid special case [01:44] Or better: use postgres or sqlite, depending on your use case. [01:51] twb, i cannot believe "that" cost me 6hrs of my life [01:52] ty none the less [01:52] bobsomebody: that was all it was? [01:53] Christ. F*cking mysql. [01:53] yes [01:54] my sentiments exactly... [01:57] So yeah, I reiterate my recommendation of postgres/sqlite [02:00] smoser: looks like https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/525675 again :-/ [02:00] Launchpad bug 525675 in python-boto "20100222 images fail to boot in UEC (HTTP error 500 retrieving ephemeral0 metadata)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [02:04] twb, ive considered it many times [02:06] twb, this one requires mysql by the client [02:07] I try to educate my clients :-) [02:08] me 2, im just a little uneducated in this area [02:16] ok back to work it seems, thank you again twb, i will make it a point to read up on postgres [02:23] hi i am creating folder to new user and it is creating with owner dnslog [02:24] somebody know when it happen? [02:49] uname -a does not tell me if i am running a server or desktop .. lsb_release -a does not disclose it either .. how do i find it ? [02:51] happy happy joy joy [02:55] hi i already have installed ubuntu cloud, 1 controller and 1 node, my goal is to install elg on a virtual server running on top of the cloud how do i now install a virtual server to the cloud? [02:56] im guessing somehow i need to create an image by installing elgg on a regular lamp server then duplicating the image and installing it to the cloud, am i correct?? [02:57] somebdy know why when i create a new account on ldap it doesn work..if i add permisions to some folder it take dnslog and not the user [02:59] Are the xtables kernel modules part of the -generic kernel packaging? [02:59] I can see xtables-addons-source, but no pre-rolled packages for the official kernels [03:05] one of my ubuntu is not telling me in motd, when pkg is available .. rest tells me when new upgrade is available.. where do i look to fix it? [03:06] axisys: sudo apt-get install update-notifier-common [03:07] kirkland: thanks a lot [03:09] kirkland: any idea why other servers dont have that pkg but still motd is dynamic with new upgrade [03:09] axisys: what version of ubuntu server are you running? [03:09] WTF [03:09] kirkland: never mind .. i am wrong about it [03:09] xtables-addons-common: /lib/xtables/libxt_CHAOS.so [03:09] kirkland: i do have the -common [03:09] axisys: ls -alF /etc/update-motd.d/ [03:10] axisys: that should show you the scripts that generate your motd [03:10] kirkland: yes i have that dir now.. thanks [03:11] doesn't the "packages to update" stuff belong to landscape-common? [03:12] hang on.. could be thinking about a different thing [03:12] "The actual locale definitions are not part of this package, these are shipped in the language packs and are installed and removed automatically." [03:13] Grumble -- that'd explain why my live image takes so flipping long to build en_US.UTF-8 during boot [03:13] It's probably doing an apt-get update and apt-get install in the background [03:15] kirkland: according to uname -a this one server is not a server , but a desktop .. is there a easy way to convert a desktop to a server.. if it too much i dont care.. essentially they are same without the WM .. correct ? [03:15] axisys: more or less [03:15] axisys: you'd need to remove a ton of desktop packages, and install the linux-server kernel [03:16] axisys: about the only difference that comes to my mind is the kernel [03:16] kirkland: depends if you pick "desktop" in tasksel during the install [03:17] IIRC the server CD's default preseed also disables installation of localization packages. [03:19] Is there anyone here thats familiar with streaming VLC? [03:28] Graflan: ive done it b4 [03:28] using the gui [03:28] I can get it to stream without a problem but when I want to stop it I can't seem to figure it out [03:29] I'm doing it with the command line [03:34] run an http controller [03:34] and log in and it will look just like the gui and hit stop [03:37] hi [03:38] can I use cp with a list of files returned by a pipe ? [03:38] ... | cp -r > my.directory/ [03:38] No. [03:38] But you can cp -r $(...) my.directory/ [03:39] (subshell vs. pipe) [03:40] Note that there exist (large) limits to the number of entries in a single command line. [03:40] persia, what if the files are given one by line, and not separated with spaces ? [03:41] maxagaz: Doesn't matter. $() converts all classes of whitespace into spaces. [03:41] Note that this does break down in cases where you are dealing with filenames containing whitespace. [03:41] persia, great... thanks a lot! [03:45] I figured out one thing I was doing wrong, I hit ctrl+z instead of ctrl+c ....z just suspends it [03:57] does the karmic uec image have lamp like the standard iso? [03:57] in otherwords is the karmic uec identical? [03:57] uec image i mean [04:08] hmm so i should tasksel to pick ubuntu-server .. will that work.? [04:08] kirkland, cef ^ [04:09] twb: i jumpstarted and probably picked generic image [04:09] axisys: that would depend on what yo uwant [04:11] twb: well.. it gets annoyed when motd says i need to upgrade openoffice .. stuff i would not get if i had installed server version.. so want to avoid any desktop app to take up server resource.. i am runnign it on x4120 .. so i have a power machine.. so i guess i could just leave it alone [04:11] and dont mess with removing desktop image and put server image [04:12] axisys: that's because the default behaviour pulls in localization, which (stupidly) includes oo.org dictionaries. [04:12] twb: gotcha [04:12] axisys: unless you seriously screwed up, you shouldn't have OO itself installed [04:12] axisys: just browse to the "localization" section in aptitude and purge the relevant -write packages. [04:13] correction: it is a sun x4100 [04:13] twb: ok [04:14] just performed a dist-upgrade on a server I have and now the system has become unbootable [04:14] sudo aptitude search localization shows `p localization-config .. ' [04:14] Grub Error 15 is the error message I recieve [04:15] Sakara: i can grub-install could fix that w/ a live cd [04:15] I tried to dpkg-reconfigure grub from a chroot with a live cd with no success [04:15] s/i can/i think/ [04:15] axisys: grub-install is a program? [04:16] Sakara: yes part of grub pkg [04:17] fdisk -l shows under the system heading that the partition is Linux LV [04:17] will that be a major problem/headache for grub? [04:22] Sakara: grub [04:23] Sakara: grub> find /boot/grub/stage1 [04:23] GRUB Legacy doesn't understand LVM. [04:24] wait .. if you are using grub2 there is no stage1 i dont think in that folder [04:24] ok will try chroot and apt-get install grub2 [04:28] Sakara: i found the steps to fix it [04:28] Sakara: let me know if you need it [04:31] axisys: I would like that alot [04:32] just fired up a live cd session and chrooting atm [04:32] Sakara: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 go to section "Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD" [04:33] then you may want to visit the "Error 15 - File not found" section under "Errors" [04:36] yup I did have a read of that [04:36] have done it a couple of time before on other broken systems [04:36] Sakara: heh [04:36] rebooting now with grub2 install [04:37] looking good [04:37] its firing up now [04:37] yup fixed [04:38] chroot into the system and apt-get install grub2 fixed the error 15 problem [04:40] sweet! [05:58] on a lamp server where is the default www directory? [05:58] /var/www [05:58] you can also check the apache conf files for clues [05:59] thanks [06:01] experimenting trying to setup my own facebook type site [06:09] man im rusty trying to use the cp command to copy the contents of a directory do i use cp folder/ -T /destfolder/ ? if i want to copy everything in one folder to another? [06:10] im getting cp: extra operand `/home/zero/elgg1.6.1/index.php' [06:10] what is -T for? [06:10] specify destination? [06:11] i dont have dosbox installed, but im pretty sure thats not even true for dos [06:11] cp src dst [06:11] but since it's a directory [06:11] cp -R src dst [06:12] sudo cp -R /home/zero/elgg1.6.1/ /var/www/ [06:12] ? [06:13] it worked except i didnt want the actual directory copied [06:14] sudo cp -R /home/zero/elgg1.6.1/*.* /var/www/ <-- will that work? [06:14] no [06:14] but its close [06:14] UNIX doesn't require files to have a . extension [06:14] sudo cp -R /home/zero/elgg1.6.1/* /var/www/* <-- will that work? [06:14] i think so [06:16] thanks looks like this worked sudo cp -R /home/zero/elgg1.6.1/* /var/www/ [06:16] oh yea, didnt notice the second * [06:41] 3. Create a database Using your database administration tool of choice (if you're unsure about this, ask your system administrator), create a new database for Elgg. Make sure you know the username and password necessary to access this. [06:41] which tool do i use for ubuntu server? [06:52] jasonmchristos: for toys, you want sqlite. [06:53] twb: im using LAMP i think it has mqsql up and running out of box [06:53] but im nott sure how to create a new database [06:56] mysql> CREATE DATABASE database1; [06:56] that made a file called CREATE [06:56] i dont think it worked properly [06:57] jasonmchristos: I don't provide mysql support, sorry. [06:57] ok thanks anyway [07:26] What packages do I need to get php5 to speak with PostgreSQL? === sabgenton_ is now known as sabgenton [07:53] Noble: php5-pgsql [07:57] hggdh: stepmaker is part of the test system. To invoke it, change the test definition from "type = steps" to "type = stepmaker". [07:58] hggdh: This is likely a useful reference: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/KVM-Autotest [08:04] morning guys [08:30] soren: Mind dropping the preflight_check() locale-gen bits? I much prefer failing at the end of the vm build, even if that's a time/resource waste, rather than risking my hosts' locales ;-) [09:17] where are the msql databases located on the LAMP karmic server? === sabgenton_ is now known as sabgenton [09:28] Just a reminder to ops in this channel, if you renewed your operatorship, you are now expected to idle in #ubuntu-ops :) See you there. [09:40] jussi01: hi [09:40] jussi01: speaking of operatorship; my motu irc ops membership is up for renewal [09:40] ji lifeless [09:40] hi even :) [09:40] :) [09:41] lifeless: did you get the email this morning that allows you self renew? [09:41] ah yes,cool, doing so. [09:41] I didn't notice the difference from the day before [09:41] yeah, thats why they came 2x :) [09:41] thanks ;) [09:42] (yes, I screwed it up the first time) [09:42] separate topic, for the floor. [09:42] Hello to all, i have installed the linux source / headers and recompiled my kernel, then i copied ./arch/x86_64/boot/bzimage /boot/My-Kern, edited Grub and restartet my Machine. I see the Kernel starting but it doesnt load the modules/drivers it just hangs at the beginning. How do i get the information what i did wrong ? [09:42] Any opinions on the likelyhood of success running hardy with a lucid kernel ? [09:42] lifeless: why do you want to do that? [09:44] lifeless: Theoretically newer kernels with older userspace is safer than the opposite way about, but you'd want to test virtually first (because there's sometimes stuff that got deprecated that userspace needs). [09:46] twb: I have a new backup drive; I want to put ext4 or possibly something more sexy still on it. [09:47] Backups should not be sexy [09:47] twb: Its my home mail/web box. So it runs LTS; I will upgrade to lucid, just not this week. [09:47] twb: You asked why :) [09:47] I'm just saying that your rationale is bogus [09:47] twb: thats fine; I want to do something bogus. [09:47] Offhand I would expect it to explode due to udev, but not much else. [09:48] Does udev fail to ignore unknown events? [09:48] Dunno. [09:48] I thought it did, but if not, yeah, that would be a big source of issues. [09:48] But I know that upgrading udev and the kernel out-of-step has caused me lots of troubles in the past [09:48] what is the status of the clusterstack in lucid? A few days ago I would install pacemaker-openais, but now that packages is non-existent when I'm trying a full reinstall with daily build from 23. feb. The clusterstack testing wiki says to run apt-get install pacemaker, but the dependency there is openhpi not openais. Anyone know what's going on? [10:00] After some googling I guess I can rephrase my question :) where did pacemaker-openais go? [10:01] According to rmadison, it's currently only available in karmic/universe [10:01] If this were debian, I'd look at the debian-release mailing list for a removal request from its last Debian maintainer. [10:02] The process is precisely the same for Ubuntu (check for removal requests in Debian). [10:02] persia: haha [10:03] The exceptions show up in the sync blacklist (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/sync-blacklist.txt ) [10:03] The exceptions to that are the few Ubuntu-local packages that exist. There used to be a removals page for those, but I haven't been able to find it recently. [10:03] persia: if I was some peon, how would I have discovered that file? [10:04] I guess it's linked from some wiki page [10:04] wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration used to have it. [10:04] The reason it's in my browser history cache is because someone mentioned it to me when blacklisting something in #ubuntu-devel a couple weeks ago. [10:07] pts: you'll have to google harder than I did; I couldn't spot it on gmane in thirty seconds. [10:11] trying to learn how pacemaker/openais works so we can Implement it in our network, but when trying to install pacemaker it depends on heartbeat, and for what I can understand that is more or less obsolete [10:11] So I am a bit confused :D [10:12] Yay for HA computing on a student's minix knockoff === sabgenton_ is now known as sabgenton [10:15] <_ruben> heartbeat as a full HA stack is obsoleted, heartbeat as just a messaging layer (together with pacemaker for instance) is very much alive/active [10:21] I see, but isnt openais a better choice? As I've understood Heartbeat is maintained by Linbit, and they will only maintain it for stability. But then again I see that corosync is pulled as a dep of pacemaker, but I havent fully understood the relationship between corosync and openais [10:30] wish me luck [10:35] hi [10:35] Is there a tool available to deploy same war to multiple tomcat server ? [10:49] so, lvm doesn't come up; digging :P [11:25] anyone famillar with grub2? [11:25] (grub karmic) [11:35] i set grub to bot i diffren menu entry rebooted and nothing changed I'm guessing grub failed to boot that entry and reverted to the last working entry? [11:35] is there a log of what happened someware? [11:36] grub2 [11:36] in karmic [12:08] hi [12:08] is there a way to start some specific services during boot up in a sequential order ? [12:09] for example 1)tomcat 2)mysql 3)dns server [12:20] hmm I have a strange problem - I can ping www.mydomain.com, mydomain.com and mail.mydomain.com properly but ns.mydomain.com and ns2.mydomain.com don't work - my zone file for BIND is set up the same way for both - is there any reason that some of my DNS stuff works but the nameservers don't? [12:26] Cromulent: your dns servers may simply not respond to ping? (not all machines do) [12:27] jiboummans: its all the same machine which is what is perplexing :) [12:28] I think I'm going to leave it for a bit and see if it is a DNS propagation issue [12:28] Cromulent: and all the same interface? what does 'host ns.mydomain.com' tell you? [12:29] it gives me the correct IP address [12:29] but ping says unknown host [12:34] Cromulent: that's somewhat strange. i trust that a ping of that ip works just fine [12:34] Cromulent: at which point your 'ping' is acting strange by not resolving teh same way 'host' does, but the system runs fine [12:38] yep ping to the IP address directly works fine - everything else is fine including as I say pinging other parts of the same nameserver - but the nameserver records themselves seem to be playing up [12:53] compliments on the Lucid server installer. To whom it may concern :) [12:57] thanks :) [12:57] It installed almost without issues. [12:57] almost ? [12:57] grub(2) didn't want to install [13:10] that's pretty serious! [13:15] Lilo did, and i'm doing stuff with raid1 and have been fiddling around with lvm [13:15] so that might be the issue [13:17] anyone knows where i should put 'aide --check' to have it to check on each boot? [13:18] grub2 is supposed to be able to boot on raid1 [13:21] lenios: I know [13:22] But i've seen more installers having issues with it [13:22] btw, there allready was a bug about lucid server staying in TTY7 and not showing TTY0, right? [13:28] easiest way to deploy a load-balanced with failover web/mysql server? [13:35] kirkland: ping [13:35] I already filed a bug about the network/metadata issue with CLC separated from CC [13:35] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/527648 [13:35] Launchpad bug 527648 in eucalyptus "Running instances can't be contacted in CLC+Walrus / CC+SC / NC topology" [High,Confirmed] [13:36] so no need for you to file one [13:36] acalvo: Hmm, I would say keepalived and mysql ring-replication [13:37] thanks! (I've just googled and found pound and mod_proxy_balancer for apache) [13:37] kirkland: I'm currently trying to reproduce using plain ISOs, just to make sure it's not something we introduce in preseeds. It definitely used to work, so I wonder when it regressed :) [13:38] acalvo: That would still introduce a single point of failure [13:38] well, I'll take a closer look at your suggestions [13:38] you can read that too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HighlyAvailableLAMP [13:40] hi [13:40] can someone guide me about http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/deployer-howto.html ? [13:40] i did downloaded the TCD [13:41] After extracting i see only build.xml docs images lib LICENSE [13:41] NOTICE RELEASE-NOTES [13:41] got stuck and not able to proceed [13:41] lenios: thanks [13:45] kaushal, well it says you have to install it [13:45] ttx: okay [13:46] lenios: i did not understand [13:46] ttx: i saw your second email before i filed one [13:46] ttx: agreed, this is a recent regression [13:46] kirkland: I suspect that some of the networking setup is no longer applied, or something like that [13:47] kaushal, "An installation is however required if you wish to use the Tomcat Client Deployer (TCD)." [13:47] lenios: really confused [13:48] I have already TC server running [13:48] i guess you have to install it like any other webapp on tomcat [13:48] ok [13:53] lenios: i reread http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/deployer-howto.html [13:53] still not clear [13:53] kirkland: reproduced issue with plain ISOs, fwiw [13:53] please guide [13:53] ttx: right; i saw it across the board; all 3 methods i tested installation [13:54] ttx: i wonder if our ephemeral "fix" regressed this [13:54] ttx: that's the only thing that's changed related the metadata in a while [13:54] ttx: unless it's a problem at another layer [13:54] kirkland: It's not metadata that is failing [13:55] it's plain networking [13:55] you can ping karmic instance from CC/SC [13:55] but not from CLC/Walrus [13:55] hmm [13:56] so it's just the network between instance and CLC/Walrus that's broken. A side effect being... metadata can't be accessed from the instance [13:56] can i get at somewhere that shows this ? [13:56] i can hack an image and register it to put some ssh keys inside already [13:56] so we don't have to worry about the metadata service not being there, you'll be able to get in and see what is going wrong [13:58] smoser: the datacenter setup [13:58] o. [13:58] ok [13:59] looks like the bridge device is set up correctly... [14:01] New bug: #527648 in eucalyptus (main) "Running instances can't be contacted in CLC+Walrus / CC+SC / NC topology" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/527648 [14:03] kirkland: is VNET_PUBINTERFACE / VNET_PRIVINTERFACE supposed to be set on CCs ? [14:05] ttx: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/en/man5/eucalyptus.conf.5.html [14:06] ttx: according to that, it's in the " Options affecting CC, NC only:" section [14:06] ttx: i wrote that manpage based on an email i got from nurmi [14:06] kirkland: ok, thx [14:06] ttx: if you haven't seen that manpage yet, it's really good; writing it really demystified eucalyptus.conf for me [14:07] kirkland: I'll have to read it [14:07] kirkland: VNET_*INTERFACE is set correctly, so it's not coming from there... [14:07] kirkland: as far as I can tell, network is set up like it's supposed to... [14:11] kirkland: I'm running out of ideas and need to spend time on some other things... i suspect we'll need Dan's help on this one. [14:12] smoser: having an image that can boot and be sshed into without requiring metadata service would probably help in debugging [14:12] its being uploaded now [14:12] smoser: cool, thanks [14:12] i *think* that emi-B1F6186B should come up, and be reachable by ubuntu@cempedak [14:12] testing that assertion now [14:12] i'm pretty sure you'll be able to ssh into that one from the CC, but not from the CLC [14:13] i'm on cempedak [14:13] and that you won't be able to query the metadata service at all. [14:13] shoot. [14:14] it went immediately to shutting_down [14:14] smoser: the karmic images boot alright [14:15] you can ping them from CC / it's just that you can't SSh into them because no authorized_keys is queried from metadata [14:15] but... you can't ping them from CLC [14:15] that kinda proves that there is an issue in networking between the components. [14:18] so it didn't boot because i forgot --instance-type c1.medium [14:19] i think small fails because root filesystem is 2G and small disk is 2G, leaving no room for space [14:19] s/space/swap/ [14:24] kirkland: ping me when you've 5 minutes [14:26] ttx, ok, where should i be able to reach this instance from ? [14:26] CC [14:28] ttx: i have all the time you need [14:29] kirkland: wanted to quickly discuss which bugs we should escalate to eucalyptus on todays call, trying to prioritize [14:29] ttx: okay, you want to call me? [14:29] kirkland: no, we can discuss it here, should be quick [14:30] I think we should mention bug 525989, bug 527648 and bug 526506 [14:30] Launchpad bug 525989 in eucalyptus "Eucalyptus runs images without ramdisk with a default ramdisk" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/525989 [14:30] Launchpad bug 527648 in eucalyptus "Running instances can't be contacted from CLC in CLC+Walrus / CC+SC / NC topology" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/527648 [14:30] Launchpad bug 526506 in eucalyptus "[karmic]: attaching volume to /dev/sda results in non operational node" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526506 [14:31] ttx: definitely [14:31] the last one seems of lesser importance, but I'm scared by users taking out nodes just by running the wrong command [14:31] ttx: agreed [14:31] so if we can reproduce in lucid... [14:31] anything else I missed ? [14:32] kirkland, what host is the cc in the datacenter ? [14:32] bug 522204 is also an upstream fix, but it's less important, and we can suggest a patch, so i'd leave it out for the moment [14:32] Launchpad bug 522204 in eucalyptus "euca_conf --[de]register-nodes is brittle" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/522204 [14:32] ttx: i'm looking [14:33] smoser: are there any standing euca2ools/boto issues? [14:34] smoser: seems like we've been staying on top of working around them as they come up [14:34] not that i'm aware of. [14:34] kirkland: also if you agree with my comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/519870, feel free to move it to cloud-init [14:34] ttx: Error: This bug is private [14:34] smoser: santol is the cc [14:35] smoser: you'll have to copy keys over to connect from the CC [14:35] ttx: i do agree with your comment; i was wondering how to mark a bug as affecting the image itself [14:35] ttx: i suppose cloud-init is about as close as we can get [14:35] kirkland: yes, it's basically a ec2-init SRU for karmic and a respin [14:36] smoser: you had a karmic refresh planned in the next weeks, iirc ? [14:36] ttx, yes [14:36] ttx: done [14:36] smoser: you think it's doable to do the hostname trick in the same run ? [14:37] hold on [14:38] ttx: that looks like the most critical short list [14:39] kirkland: Ok, thanks. I prefer us to sync before the call so that we come up with a sane argument :) [14:39] ttx: agreed [14:39] (the "importance" was correctly reflecting what's important, which is good) :) [14:46] ttx, ok. so above, the hostname trick yeah, we can do that back into karmic. [14:47] smoser: okay, cool [14:50] ttx, kirkland in data center, emi-B1E0185E is runnable. [14:51] it is mostly a static instance, and the ubuntu user on santol can go straight in [14:51] smoser: and ssh-able? [14:51] yeah [14:51] smoser: from santol [14:51] smoser: what about from cempedak? (the clc) [14:51] smoser; right [14:51] right. go to santol, then ssh 172.19.1.3 [14:51] i can't get there from cempedak, as ttx expected, no ping either. [14:51] shoudl fail from clc .. and you should fail to query metadata from the instance as well [14:51] that confirms my findings [14:54] yeah [14:54] from inside the guest [14:54] $ telnet 169.254.169.254 80 [14:54] Trying 169.254.169.254... [14:54] telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused [14:54] ttx, kirkland i'll try to write a script to "fix" an instance [14:54] err, i mean an image [14:55] so it really does nothing on boot but has your keys embedded already [14:58] Hi there, I'm running Ubuntu Server 9.10 and I'm gettins No space left on device errors all of a sudden, running "df- Th" shows me that I have 8.5 Gigs left on my ext4 primary filesystem- there are some other tmpfs with 200-500 MB free, so I don't understand why I'm getting this message [14:59] gzur, are you using quotas? are you out of inodes? [14:59] gzur: What does "df -ih" say? [15:00] also, as non-root, there may be 5% reserved for root [15:03] Hi all. I just tried upgrading from 8.04 to 10.04 on a cloned VM and it failed immediately with: [15:04] Exception during pm.DoInstall(): E:Couldn't configure pre-depend mountall for upstart, probably a dependency cycle. [15:04] Should I report a bug on mountall or upstart? :) [15:05] is there a way to cache ssh keys on the CLI [15:05] Omahn, Exception during pm.DoInstall(): E:Couldn't configure pre-depend mountall for upstart, probably a dependency cycle [15:05] Omahn, sorry about that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/527605 [15:05] Launchpad bug 527605 in update-manager "kubuntu 8.04 -> 10.04 upgrade fails, due to likely dependency cycle" [Undecided,New] [15:05] ta. [15:05] netrat: Does update-manager provide do-release-upgrade? [15:05] zul, what does cache ssh keys mean ? [15:06] Yes it does. :-) [15:06] smoser: nm figured it out [15:06] ssh-agent [15:08] Omahn, sorry i'm not for sure.. I'm sticking with 8.04 for awhile until all the bugs get sorted out [15:09] netrat: We're trying to do as many test upgrades as possible to make sure all the bugs are caught as early as possible :-) [15:13] Omahn, thanks for sorting all the bugs out for me! [15:14] netrat: You need to understand, I'm not sorting them, I'm just finding them ;-) [15:21] netrat and soren: df -oh says Inodes: 2.3 - IUsed: 2.3 IFree: 1 IUse%: 100%, so yes I', out of inodes :) [15:21] thanks === JaixBly_ZzZ is now known as JaixBly [15:23] What does that mean? [15:23] can I increase the number of inodes? [15:24] gzur, i think the number of inodes is set when the filesystem is created... what are you using the filesystem for if you don't mind me asking? [15:24] Storing images used in a tiled web mapping service [15:25] It's an obscene number of files/directories [15:25] gzur, what type of filesystem? be back in a few [15:26] netrat: ext4 I think [15:27] netrat: ext4 for certain :) === Guest26987 is now known as fahadsadah [15:41] gzur, the number of inodes is set at filesystem creation. i don't think you can increase that number afterwards [15:43] gzur, normally the number of inodes is set with a bytes-per-inode ratio. check the man page for mkfs.ext4, the i, I, and N flags should be of interest [15:45] is it possible that the there might be junk inodes? [15:48] netrat: and thanks for the man page ref - it's exactly what I need it seems. === robbiew_ is now known as robbiew [16:20] hi .. i have problem with my own deb repository ... i have few own packages (mostly with scripts) .. and need to install and update this packages on several servers .... i followed this tutorial ... http://mediakey.dk/~cc/howto-create-your-own-debian-or-ubuntu-package-repository/ ... i can add repository to /etc/apt/sources.list but i can't see packages from my repo ... is there anybody who can help me? [16:40] why not just use ppa? [16:56] New bug: #527875 in libvirt (main) "libvirt0 unable to operate due to missing essential files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/527875 === toabctl_ is now known as toabctl [18:21] in ubuntu with postfix/dovecot, i need to forward everything from one email address to the other, how can I accoplish this ? [18:46] New bug: #526944 in squid (main) "Unknown $NAME variable in squid upstart script" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526944 [18:47] I have recently setup a couple of 9.10 x86 servers for some LAMP and zenoss duties. I've added a new source for zenoss, but it kicks back a 407 Proxy Authentication Required for the zenoss source. Strangely, the others work just fine. It doesn't seem to be making an attempt to authenticate on the zenoss source. Any ideas? [19:00] hi all, I am having some issue with likewise joining the domain. After the system reboot, it will take about 1 minute for the system to get the ticket from the windows server [19:00] any direction that where I should look will be much appreciated! [19:07] any smartd experts? drive reported a bad sector (Current_Pending_Sector of 1).. i did a long selftest that failed on LBA 976768629. i tried reading from that block (dd if=/dev/sdv skip=976768629 bs=512) and it was fine! did a raid check/resync and no recoverable error. did another long selftest and the disk reported no errors but the Current_Pending_Sector and Offline_Uncorrectable are still not 0 [19:08] will the pending sector not go until the block is rewritten ? despite the fact it seems to be able to read it now (or it seems it was a intermittent issue?( [19:15] kees: i'm here to answer any of your questions regarding heartbeat/openais/corosync/pacemaker [19:17] ivoks: ah-ha, excellent. [19:17] ivoks: so, what's the issue with 2.99 vs 3.0 ? [19:17] kees: 2.99 was mutant [19:17] kees: it was a development snapshot that worked at one point [19:18] kees: but since then heartbeat isn't the same [19:18] kees: in 3.0 it contains only portions of 2.99, while portions were split into cluster-glue and cluster-agents [19:18] ivoks: how soon do you think Debian will have the 3.0 stuff? [19:18] kees: and some parts were removed [19:19] kees: very [19:19] kees: actually, i'll be working with debian-ha-maintainers on adopting new stuff [19:19] ivoks: I would feel much better about it in an LTS if it were reasonably in sync with Debian. [19:19] overall, I'm find with heartbeat being in main from both an MIR and security perspective. [19:19] s/find/fine [19:20] but I would rather the discontinuity with Debian was solved first. [19:20] kees: i doubt new version will get in before beta1 [19:20] (in debian) [19:22] ivoks: I'll comment on the bug and conditionally approve it. [19:22] ok [19:23] ivoks: on a totally separate topic, do you have any idea where ACL/xattr support stands with tar? I know you'd looked into it briefly at one point. [19:23] kees: haven't look at it [19:23] kees: there were some issues with the patch [19:24] ivoks: yeah, the email thread seems to have died out a bit. [19:24] kees: i'm not sure there was any change after that [19:24] well, that's just bad. [19:24] ivoks: what confused me is that RH seems to carry that flawed patch; I'd figure it would cause a lot of pain for them. [19:24] but it looks it's working [19:26] yeah, weird. [19:28] kees: if you have any other questions about cluster stuff, ping me [19:28] ivoks: sure thing. thanks! [19:40] hi all... does anyone know of a good guide to getting ldap/kerberos working? all the guides i've found either don't work, don't make sense, or are outdated... [19:41] Ok. It looks like nfs mounts in fstab attempt to happen before the system brings up my main bridge device on boot. [19:41] unit3: karmic? [19:41] yep. [19:42] is there an easy way to reorder this? get it to activate the bridge device so I have networking before it tries to mount nfs stuff? [19:42] unit3: you have /home on nfs? [19:42] yeah [19:42] exactly. :) [19:42] unit3: workaround i did was mounting nfs share to /srv/home [19:42] unit3: and then in rc.local [19:42] oh, bind it to /home. [19:42] gotcha. [19:42] unit3: mount -a followd by mount bind /srv/home to /home [19:43] I guess that'd work in the short term. do you know if there's a launchpad bug I can follow about this? [19:43] this was fixed in lucid [19:43] oh, is there a package I can backport to fix it? [19:43] hopefully, there'll be a backport at some point [19:43] fix is in 'upstart' package [19:44] and i wouldn't recomend backporting it :) [19:44] oh, I guess because there's tons of other changes that'd need to accompany it? [19:44] correct [19:44] lucid will be out soon [19:44] I could still use a link to the launchpad bug then, just to try and track down the changes and maybe make my own patch. [19:44] Yeah, but I have broken production servers now. :P [19:44] i know [19:44] same problem i had [19:45] but i'll be using workaround till lucid is released [19:45] fair enough. I guess I'll put that in place for the time being. [19:45] thanks. :) [19:45] np [19:47] well, 'night all === lenios is now known as amelie [19:55] Where should I place my web files? Using IIS I usually have them in separate directories away from the webroot. I don't think I want them all in /var/www. What makes sense for a public webserver built on Ubuntu? [19:56] JamesCard, you can place them where ever you want. You *don't* have to place them under /var/www [19:57] JamesCard, however, you will need to edit the root in the webserver's config file [19:57] Right, I know I can create aliases. Just wondering what is suggested as best practice. [19:58] This server will have a single user, but we'd rather not have to deal with sudo every time we want to touch any of our web files. [19:59] is it easy to set up irc on my new ubuntu server, [19:59] Keeping them in the admin user's home directory seems most convenient, but are reasons we might not want to do that? [19:59] JamesCard, well, if you are using apache, and you create a public_html file in $HOME of each user, you can do that [19:59] or either, give different permissions to whereever your files are === amelie is now known as lenios [20:06] On Windows servers we usually create a C:\Projects\Web directory to contain everything the webserver should see. Perhaps these files make sense in /opt or /srv -- they are, after all, not user-specific files and don't seem to belong in /home. [20:09] JamesCard, whatever makes your live easier :). I mean /var/www is just a default as many other things windows has for default directories... [20:11] RoAkSoAx: thanks. [20:12] JamesCard, no prob. [20:16] According to it looks like /srv is the "proper" place. Makes sense to me, at least. Thanks. [20:47] unit3: The bug you're looking for is bug #470776 [20:47] Launchpad bug 470776 in mountall "retry remote devices when parent is ready after SIGUSR1" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/470776 [20:51] oh, thanks. :) [20:55] soren: is this a known issue with the latest vmbuilder? http://paste.ubuntu.com/383941/ [20:56] soren: also, vmbuilder --help seems to be broken...didn't that work before? [21:09] mdeslaur: Not entirely a known problem. Not entirely surprising either, now that I think about it, though. [21:10] Gah. [21:12] 22:09:53 < soren> mdeslaur: Not entirely a known problem. Not entirely surprising either, now that I think about it, though. [21:12] mdeslaur: If you file a bug about it, I'll bet it'll be fixed within the next 12-14 hours. [21:13] soren: hehe, will do then :) [21:13] * soren ponders [21:17] soren: bug #528027 [21:17] Launchpad bug 528027 in vm-builder "vmbuilder crashed with AttributeError in set_defaults()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528027 [21:26] New bug: #528027 in vm-builder (universe) "vmbuilder crashed with AttributeError in set_defaults()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528027 [21:47] hello [21:47] I have some probleme with usb ! [21:47] my lsusb does return anything except the Linux root hub ! [22:23] decembre: what kind of devices do you have plugged in via USB, and what release of Ubuntu are you using? [22:50] echo request [22:50] * lifeless requests [22:51] kirkland: I've upgraded my home server to lucid; so I will be able to try those UEC bugs [22:51] lifeless: well done! [22:51] kirkland: but also, I'm going to stab at getting all services on one machine: DHCP, DNSd, UEC* [22:51] lifeless <---- ambitious man [22:51] kirkland: well, it was a bit of a disaster: 4 dependency bugs found and reported; up to 3:30ish am. [22:52] lifeless: btw, Karmic UEC -> Lucid UEC upgrade is known broken [22:52] kirkland: it will be an experience [22:52] lifeless: i'm tackling that on Monday [22:52] kirkland: thats ok, this machine was running hardy. [22:52] lifeless: ah [22:52] which is why I found all these bugs ;) [22:53] can I ask a noob questions without being flammed here? haven't been in this channel before... [22:53] *question [22:53] udha: yep, we're nice. We might point you at a better forum, but we can't tell until you ask the question. [22:54] sombody know why when i create a new user (ldap) and i do permision in a folder for this user is just take permision as dnslog and not as the "user" [22:55] lifeless, thanks, I'm just downloading ubuntu 9.10 server (64bit) for a headless box at home, and noticed for the first time the enterprise cloud features for multiple systems, but was wonding if someone can explain the basics of it? [22:55] Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud? [22:55] udha: ^ is that what you're referring to? [22:56] lifeless, yes that's right [22:57] http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/private has some high level info [22:57] what sort of basics are you interested in: capabilities? how it works? what it lets you do? [22:57] thanks lifeless, haven't seen this page before, reading now... [22:58] hi can anyone provide me a linux alternative to what this link from m$ proposes http://networkedblogs.com/p28446238 thanks [22:59] So with the cloud options, could I say, run a LAMP website and have it scale automatically across machines in the cloud as it's usage expands? [22:59] Or use it for a high-availability DNS cluster etc? [23:00] What would happen if a machine failed? [23:01] anyone? even knowing udha might be talking about what I am looking for [23:01] Pirate_Hunger: I'm having a look at that link now... [23:02] oh ok I found it quite interesting specially the whole application and cloud working together [23:02] Having MS and Government tied together even closer than they are already makes me very afraid [23:04] Pirate_Hunter: that video and article are talking about cloud services online right? [23:04] I'm still watching the vid, 4 mins.. [23:05] udha, not exactly it talks about the cloud service as well as having tailored software on the server. However the main benefit is both cloud and the server (software) working together [23:06] there is quite a lot of benefits to that I just want to know if linux has something similar as an alternative even if it hasn't progressed to that level [23:07] :Pirate_Hunter: I only just came here to ask about Ubuntu's cloud services myself, so I'm no authority on the subject, but I'll need to see more than a paper-cut-out video to form any kind of opinion about the Software+ idea [23:07] I've just started reading this if it's of any help: http://www.ubuntu.com/system/files/introduction-to-cloud-computing_server_cloud.pdf [23:08] Pirate_Hunder: Is that video/article talking about anything beyond SaaS? [23:09] fair enough I understand what you mean, I got quite hyped about this piece of news it is on the lines of what I was already thinking. I am currently designing a server so looking at the options available and will read that link might contain something that will help me out [23:09] Pirate_Hunder: lifeless has answered a few Qs for me already, and would probably be better suited to your question, I'd stick around to see if you get a reply [23:11] will do, however it is late evening/night here so not sure how long I can be here for, you could just pastebin your part of the convo for me to read [23:12] not enough to require pastbin: < lifeless> http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/private has some high level info [23:12] udha: UEC provides VM images on-demand using a programming API [23:12] I haven't followed up with anything else yet [23:12] udha: so yes, you can use it to do a LAMP based website with automatic scaling; there are various folk writing tools to use the programming API to do just that. [23:12] lifeless: Ok, so it is a Virtual Hyper Visor sortof thing, like VMWare ESX or XEN Server etc? [23:13] it builds on top of those [23:13] on top of kvm specifically [23:13] so you have as 'node controller' machines as you want [23:13] lifeless: thanks, I'd have expected it to use kvm, thanks for clarifying [23:13] and when you use the API to start a vm it picks a machine that has enough capacity and starts the vm there, gives it an IP address etc [23:14] lifeless: so I'd need two physical machines to start playing with it right? [23:14] if you have an existing network with DHCP and DNS working, you can add a single machine to that network to play with. [23:15] lifeless: I know I started with home use, but for the cloud I'm thinking of datacenter use, no DHCP, just static IPv4/6 address assignments [23:15] it works fine in that configuration, though there are bugs that can affect getting started. The Topologies page in the ubuntu help wiki documents the config for a single machine setup [23:15] udha: you want dhcp [23:15] for this, in the datacentre [23:15] DHCP across 100+ switches and routers? [23:15] thats what its designed for [23:16] its not really intended for networks the admin can walk around to see each machine :) [23:16] the routers aren't going to forward that traffic without reconfiguration [23:17] hang on, are we talking about the physical machine or the VM deployments? [23:17] for the VMs [23:17] hi there somebody know any irc tool for free? [23:18] Roxyhart0: irc 'tool'? like a client? [23:18] Roxyhart0: and for cli or gui? [23:18] udha: but you can [and I would argue should] be using it for your machines too [23:18] udha: you don't need to use it for your machines; you do for the VM's [23:18] otherwise they can't act as templates [23:19] lifeless: DHCP for customer equipment isn't really an option, it would actually complicate management and billing enourmously. [23:19] udha: you can statically assign /via/ DHCP [23:19] udha: have a reserved range for unknown machines - they would get firewalled off, can use that for bringing up new hardware [23:20] lifeless: each assignment is allocated to a specific port and vlan, unless we go for cisco's Unified fabric I don't know an easy way to automate this [23:20] udha: anyhow, point is, you don't need to change your environment to do this; but you will need /a/ DHCP server to serve IP's to the VM instances brought up on node controllers [23:20] lifeless: how about the primary could server? [23:20] run DHCP3 or somethign on it? [23:21] quite possibly [23:21] lifeless: well it won't be hard to accomodate the dhcp requirement at any rate [23:23] hi udha icr as client with gui [23:23] urc* [23:24] Roxyhart0: mIRC is a popular one for windows, I've only use cli clients in linux though, I'm using irssi atm [23:25] thanks udha [23:26] there are xchat, pidgin, empathy/telepathy (graphical); also irssi and weechat (curses/terminal) [23:26] im looking for windows [23:26] mIRC [23:26] thanks [23:26] unless times have changed since 10 years ago ;P [23:27] there is also a version of xchat for windows.. which is useful if you use xchat on linux having the same thing in both places' [23:27] no they havent it is still popular just annoying now they've done major changes on the design... well to say I can't use it and not frown [23:28] udha, thanks for that will continue reading it in 2-3hrs from now need to have some shut eyes before than take care [23:29] Pirate_Hunter: take it easy [23:31] hi anyone used automysqlbackup..? [23:33] ruben32: I havn't, no. What does it do? Anything like MySQL replication sort of thing? [23:34] ruben32: or is it like a mysqladmin database dump wiht cron? [23:35] udha: auto dump and have schedules [23:35] is automysqlbackup an actual program? Or something you want to do? [23:36] its a script, you can run [23:36] on cron [23:39] hi someone know how i can unistall djbdns (tinydns) from a installation followed from http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-djbdns-setup-on-ubuntu8.04-amd64 [23:42] mdeslaur: Fix committed. [23:42] Roxyhart0: I haven't used that tutorial or djbdns before, but should it be: sudo aptitude remove [23:42] mdeslaur: Took a bit longer than I'd hoped, but it should be pretty shiny now. [23:42] * soren heads bedwards [23:56] soren: thanks!