[01:33] <bobsomebody> im trying to figure out what would cause mysql "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket" error to be produced
[01:34] <bobsomebody> im benchmarking a script that needs to be scalable and I initiaded 300 mysql_connects in php, i get about 30 of the above errors
[01:38] <twb> The mysql client has this stupid thing where connecting to "localhost" is a special case that makes it use sockets.
[01:38] <twb> That's the only time I've seen that error.
[01:43] <kirkland> smoser: around?
[01:43] <kirkland> smoser: does this look familiar?   * Excellent, working condition, nothing wrong with it
[01:43] <kirkland> smoser: sorry ... wrong paste
[01:43] <kirkland> smoser: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/383371/
[01:43] <bobsomebody> twb, what would you recommend as a 'fix'?
[01:43] <twb> bobsomebody: you connect to 127.0.1.1 or something that's not hard-coded to be a stupid special case
[01:44] <twb> Or better: use postgres or sqlite, depending on your use case.
[01:51] <bobsomebody> twb, i cannot believe "that" cost me 6hrs of my life
[01:52] <bobsomebody> ty none the less
[01:52] <twb> bobsomebody: that was all it was?
[01:53] <twb> Christ.  F*cking mysql.
[01:53] <bobsomebody> yes
[01:54] <bobsomebody> my sentiments exactly...
[01:57] <twb> So yeah, I reiterate my recommendation of postgres/sqlite
[02:00] <kirkland> smoser: looks like https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/525675 again :-/
[02:04] <bobsomebody> twb, ive considered it many times
[02:06] <bobsomebody> twb, this one requires mysql by the client
[02:07] <twb> I try to educate my clients :-)
[02:08] <bobsomebody> me 2, im just a little uneducated in this area
[02:16] <bobsomebody> ok back to work it seems, thank you again twb, i will make it a point to read up on postgres
[02:23] <Roxyhart0> hi i am creating folder to new user and it is creating with owner dnslog
[02:24] <Roxyhart0> somebody know when it happen?
[02:49] <axisys> uname -a does not tell me if i am running a server or desktop .. lsb_release -a does not disclose it either .. how do i find it ?
[02:51] <zul> happy happy joy joy
[02:55] <jasonmchristos> hi i already have installed ubuntu cloud, 1 controller and 1 node, my goal is to install elg on a virtual server running on top of the cloud how do i now install a virtual server to the cloud?
[02:56] <jasonmchristos> im guessing somehow i need to create an image by installing elgg on a regular lamp server then duplicating the image and installing it to the cloud, am i correct??
[02:57] <Roxyhart0>  somebdy know why when i create a new account on ldap it doesn work..if i add permisions to some folder it take dnslog and not the user
[02:59] <twb> Are the xtables kernel modules part of the -generic kernel packaging?
[02:59] <twb> I can see xtables-addons-source, but no pre-rolled packages for the official kernels
[03:05] <axisys> one of my ubuntu is not telling me in motd, when pkg is available .. rest tells me when new upgrade is available.. where do i look to fix it?
[03:06] <kirkland> axisys: sudo apt-get install update-notifier-common
[03:07] <axisys> kirkland: thanks a lot
[03:09] <axisys> kirkland: any idea why other servers dont have that pkg but still motd is dynamic with new upgrade
[03:09] <kirkland> axisys: what version of ubuntu server are you running?
[03:09] <twb> WTF
[03:09] <axisys> kirkland: never mind .. i am wrong about it
[03:09] <twb> xtables-addons-common: /lib/xtables/libxt_CHAOS.so
[03:09] <axisys> kirkland: i do have the -common
[03:09] <kirkland> axisys: ls -alF /etc/update-motd.d/
[03:10] <kirkland> axisys: that should show you the scripts that generate your motd
[03:10] <axisys> kirkland: yes i have that dir now.. thanks
[03:11] <cef> doesn't the "packages to update" stuff belong to landscape-common?
[03:12] <cef> hang on.. could be thinking about a different thing
[03:12] <twb> "The actual locale definitions are not part of this package, these are shipped in the language packs and are installed and removed automatically."
[03:13] <twb> Grumble -- that'd explain why my live image takes so flipping long to build en_US.UTF-8 during boot
[03:13] <twb> It's probably doing an apt-get update and apt-get install in the background
[03:15] <axisys> kirkland: according to uname -a this one server is not a server , but a desktop .. is there a easy way to convert a desktop to a server.. if it too much i dont care.. essentially they are same without the WM .. correct ?
[03:15] <kirkland> axisys: more or less
[03:15] <kirkland> axisys: you'd need to remove a ton of desktop packages, and install the linux-server kernel
[03:16] <cef> axisys: about the only difference that comes to my mind is the kernel
[03:16] <twb> kirkland: depends if you pick "desktop" in tasksel during the install
[03:17] <twb> IIRC the server CD's default preseed also disables installation of localization packages.
[03:19] <Graflan> Is there anyone here thats familiar with streaming VLC?
[03:28] <jasonmchristos> Graflan: ive done it b4
[03:28] <jasonmchristos> using the gui
[03:28] <Graflan> I can get it to stream without a problem but when I want to stop it I can't seem to figure it out
[03:29] <Graflan> I'm doing it with the command line
[03:34] <jasonmchristos> run an http controller
[03:34] <jasonmchristos> and log in and it will look just like the gui and hit stop
[03:37] <maxagaz> hi
[03:38] <maxagaz> can I use cp with a list of files returned by a pipe ?
[03:38] <maxagaz> ... | cp -r > my.directory/
[03:38] <persia> No.
[03:38] <persia> But you can cp -r $(...) my.directory/
[03:39] <persia> (subshell vs. pipe)
[03:40] <persia> Note that there exist (large) limits to the number of entries in a single command line.
[03:40] <maxagaz> persia, what if the files are given one by line, and not separated with spaces ?
[03:41] <persia> maxagaz: Doesn't matter.  $() converts all classes of whitespace into spaces.
[03:41] <persia> Note that this does break down in cases where you are dealing with filenames containing whitespace.
[03:41] <maxagaz> persia, great... thanks  a lot!
[03:45] <Graflan> I figured out one thing I was doing wrong, I hit ctrl+z instead of ctrl+c ....z just suspends it
[03:57] <jasonmchristos> does the karmic uec image have lamp like the standard iso?
[03:57] <jasonmchristos> in otherwords is the karmic uec identical?
[03:57] <jasonmchristos> uec image i mean
[04:08] <axisys> hmm so i should tasksel to pick ubuntu-server .. will that work.?
[04:08] <axisys> kirkland, cef ^
[04:09] <axisys> twb: i jumpstarted and probably picked generic image
[04:09] <twb> axisys: that would depend on what yo uwant
[04:11] <axisys> twb: well.. it gets annoyed when motd says i need to upgrade openoffice .. stuff i would not get if i had installed server version.. so want to avoid any desktop app to take up server resource.. i am runnign it on x4120 .. so i have a power machine.. so i guess i could just leave it alone
[04:11] <axisys> and dont mess with removing desktop image and put server image
[04:12] <twb> axisys: that's because the default behaviour pulls in localization, which (stupidly) includes oo.org dictionaries.
[04:12] <axisys> twb: gotcha
[04:12] <twb> axisys: unless you seriously screwed up, you shouldn't have OO itself installed
[04:12] <twb> axisys: just browse to the "localization" section in aptitude and purge the relevant -write packages.
[04:13] <axisys> correction: it is a sun x4100
[04:13] <axisys> twb: ok
[04:14] <Sakara> just performed a dist-upgrade on a server I have and now the system has become unbootable
[04:14] <axisys> sudo aptitude search localization shows `p localization-config .. '
[04:14] <Sakara> Grub Error 15 is the error message I recieve
[04:15] <axisys> Sakara: i can grub-install could fix that w/ a live cd
[04:15] <Sakara> I tried to dpkg-reconfigure grub from a chroot with a live cd with no success
[04:15] <axisys> s/i can/i think/
[04:15] <Sakara> axisys: grub-install is a program?
[04:16] <axisys> Sakara: yes part of grub pkg
[04:17] <Sakara> fdisk -l shows under the system heading that the partition is Linux LV
[04:17] <Sakara> will that be a major problem/headache for grub?
[04:22] <axisys> Sakara: grub
[04:23] <axisys> Sakara: grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[04:23] <twb> GRUB Legacy doesn't understand LVM.
[04:24] <axisys> wait .. if you are using grub2 there is no stage1 i dont think in that folder
[04:24] <Sakara> ok will try chroot and apt-get install grub2
[04:28] <axisys> Sakara: i found the steps to fix it
[04:28] <axisys> Sakara: let me know if you need it
[04:31] <Sakara> axisys: I would like that alot
[04:32] <Sakara> just fired up a live cd session and chrooting atm
[04:32] <axisys> Sakara: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 go to section "Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD"
[04:33] <axisys> then you may want to visit the "Error 15 - File not found" section under "Errors"
[04:36] <Sakara> yup I did have a read of that
[04:36] <Sakara> have done it a couple of time before on other broken systems
[04:36] <axisys> Sakara: heh
[04:36] <Sakara> rebooting now with grub2 install
[04:37] <Sakara> looking good
[04:37] <Sakara> its firing up now
[04:37] <Sakara> yup fixed
[04:38] <Sakara> chroot into the system and apt-get install grub2 fixed the error 15 problem
[04:40] <axisys> sweet!
[05:58] <jasonmchristos> on a lamp server where is the default www directory?
[05:58] <pwnguin> /var/www
[05:58] <pwnguin> you can also check the apache conf files for clues
[05:59] <jasonmchristos> thanks
[06:01] <jasonmchristos> experimenting trying to setup my own facebook type site
[06:09] <jasonmchristos> man im rusty trying to use the cp command to copy the contents of a directory do i use cp folder/ -T /destfolder/ ? if i want to copy everything in one folder to another?
[06:10] <jasonmchristos> im getting cp: extra operand `/home/zero/elgg1.6.1/index.php'
[06:10] <pwnguin> what is -T for?
[06:10] <jasonmchristos> specify destination?
[06:11] <pwnguin> i dont have dosbox installed, but im pretty sure thats not even true for dos
[06:11] <pwnguin> cp src dst
[06:11] <pwnguin> but since it's a directory
[06:11] <pwnguin> cp -R src dst
[06:12] <jasonmchristos> sudo cp -R /home/zero/elgg1.6.1/ /var/www/
[06:12] <jasonmchristos> ?
[06:13] <jasonmchristos> it worked except i didnt want the actual directory copied
[06:14] <jasonmchristos> sudo cp -R /home/zero/elgg1.6.1/*.* /var/www/   <-- will that work?
[06:14] <pwnguin> no
[06:14] <pwnguin> but its close
[06:14] <pwnguin> UNIX doesn't require files to have a . extension
[06:14] <jasonmchristos> sudo cp -R /home/zero/elgg1.6.1/* /var/www/*   <-- will that work?
[06:14] <pwnguin> i think so
[06:16] <jasonmchristos> thanks looks like this worked sudo cp -R /home/zero/elgg1.6.1/* /var/www/
[06:16] <pwnguin> oh yea, didnt notice the second *
[06:41] <jasonmchristos> 3. Create a database Using your database administration tool of choice (if you're unsure  about this, ask your system administrator), create a new database for Elgg. Make sure you know the username and password necessary to access this.
[06:41] <jasonmchristos> which tool do i use for ubuntu server?
[06:52] <twb> jasonmchristos: for toys, you want sqlite.
[06:53] <jasonmchristos> twb: im using LAMP i think it has mqsql up and running out of box
[06:53] <jasonmchristos> but im nott sure how to create a new database
[06:56] <jasonmchristos> mysql> CREATE DATABASE database1;
[06:56] <jasonmchristos> that made a file called CREATE
[06:56] <jasonmchristos> i dont think it worked properly
[06:57] <twb> jasonmchristos: I don't provide mysql support, sorry.
[06:57] <jasonmchristos> ok thanks anyway
[07:26] <Noble> What packages do I need to get php5 to speak with PostgreSQL?
[07:53] <jmarsden> Noble: php5-pgsql
[07:57] <soren> hggdh: stepmaker is part of the test system. To invoke it, change the test definition from "type = steps" to "type = stepmaker".
[07:58] <soren> hggdh: This is likely a useful reference: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/KVM-Autotest
[08:04] <jiboumans> morning guys
[08:30] <lool> soren: Mind dropping the preflight_check() locale-gen bits?  I much prefer failing at the end of the vm build, even if that's a time/resource waste, rather than risking my hosts' locales  ;-)
[09:17] <jasonmchristos> where are the msql databases located on the LAMP karmic server?
[09:28] <jussi01> Just a reminder to ops in this channel, if you renewed your operatorship, you are now expected to idle in #ubuntu-ops :) See you there.
[09:40] <lifeless> jussi01: hi
[09:40] <lifeless> jussi01: speaking of operatorship; my motu irc ops membership is up for renewal
[09:40] <jussi01> ji lifeless
[09:40] <jussi01> hi even :)
[09:40] <lifeless> :)
[09:41] <jussi01> lifeless: did you get the email this morning that allows you self renew?
[09:41] <lifeless> ah yes,cool, doing so.
[09:41] <lifeless> I didn't notice the difference from the day before
[09:41] <jussi01> yeah, thats why they came 2x :)
[09:41] <lifeless> thanks ;)
[09:42] <jussi01> (yes, I screwed it up the first time)
[09:42] <lifeless> separate topic, for the floor.
[09:42] <Steel__> Hello to all, i have installed the linux source / headers and recompiled my kernel, then i copied ./arch/x86_64/boot/bzimage /boot/My-Kern, edited Grub and restartet my Machine. I see the Kernel starting but it doesnt load the modules/drivers it just hangs at the beginning. How do i get the information what i did wrong ?
[09:42] <lifeless> Any opinions on the likelyhood of success running hardy with a lucid kernel ?
[09:42] <twb> lifeless: why do you want to do that?
[09:44] <persia> lifeless: Theoretically newer kernels with older userspace is safer than the opposite way about, but you'd want to test virtually first (because there's sometimes stuff that got deprecated that userspace needs).
[09:46] <lifeless> twb: I have a new backup drive; I want to put ext4 or possibly something more sexy still on it.
[09:47] <twb> Backups should not be sexy
[09:47] <lifeless> twb: Its my home mail/web box. So it runs LTS; I will upgrade to lucid, just not this week.
[09:47] <lifeless> twb: You asked why :)
[09:47] <twb> I'm just saying that your rationale is bogus
[09:47] <lifeless> twb: thats fine; I want to do something bogus.
[09:47] <twb> Offhand I would expect it to explode due to udev, but not much else.
[09:48] <persia> Does udev fail to ignore unknown events?
[09:48] <twb> Dunno.
[09:48] <persia> I thought it did, but if not, yeah, that would be a big source of issues.
[09:48] <twb> But I know that upgrading udev and the kernel out-of-step has caused me lots of troubles in the past
[09:48] <pts> what is the status of the clusterstack in lucid? A few days ago I would install pacemaker-openais, but now that packages is non-existent when I'm trying a full reinstall with daily build from 23. feb. The clusterstack testing wiki says to run apt-get install pacemaker, but the dependency there is openhpi not openais. Anyone know what's going on?
[10:00] <pts> After some googling I guess I can rephrase my question :) where did pacemaker-openais go?
[10:01] <twb> According to rmadison, it's currently only available in karmic/universe
[10:01] <twb> If this were debian, I'd look at the debian-release mailing list for a removal request from its last Debian maintainer.
[10:02] <persia> The process is precisely the same for Ubuntu (check for removal requests in Debian).
[10:02] <twb> persia: haha
[10:03] <persia> The exceptions show up in the sync blacklist (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/sync-blacklist.txt )
[10:03] <persia> The exceptions to that are the few Ubuntu-local packages that exist.  There used to be a removals page for those, but I haven't been able to find it recently.
[10:03] <twb> persia: if I was some peon, how would I have discovered that file?
[10:04] <twb> I guess it's linked from some wiki page
[10:04] <persia> wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration used to have it.
[10:04] <persia> The reason it's in my browser history cache is because someone mentioned it to me when blacklisting something in #ubuntu-devel a couple weeks ago.
[10:07] <twb> pts: you'll have to google harder than I did; I couldn't spot it on gmane in thirty seconds.
[10:11] <pts> trying to learn how pacemaker/openais works so we can Implement it in our network, but when trying to install pacemaker it depends on heartbeat, and for what I can understand that is more or less obsolete
[10:11] <pts> So I am a bit confused :D
[10:12] <twb> Yay for HA computing on a student's minix knockoff
[10:15] <_ruben> heartbeat as a full HA stack is obsoleted, heartbeat as just a messaging layer (together with pacemaker for instance) is very much alive/active
[10:21] <pts> I see, but isnt openais a better choice? As I've understood Heartbeat is maintained by Linbit, and they will only maintain it for stability. But then again I see that corosync is pulled as a dep of pacemaker, but I havent fully understood the relationship between corosync and openais
[10:30] <lifeless> wish me luck
[10:35] <kaushal> hi
[10:35] <kaushal> Is there a tool available to deploy same war to multiple tomcat server ?
[10:49] <lifeless> so, lvm doesn't come up; digging :P
[11:25] <sabgenton> anyone famillar with grub2?
[11:25] <sabgenton> (grub karmic)
[11:35] <sabgenton> i set grub to bot i diffren menu entry rebooted and nothing changed I'm guessing grub failed to boot that entry and reverted to the last working entry?
[11:35] <sabgenton> is there a log of what happened someware?
[11:36] <sabgenton> grub2
[11:36] <sabgenton> in karmic
[12:08] <kaushal> hi
[12:08] <kaushal> is there a way to start some specific services during boot up in a sequential order ?
[12:09] <kaushal> for example 1)tomcat 2)mysql 3)dns server
[12:20] <Cromulent> hmm I have a strange problem - I can ping www.mydomain.com, mydomain.com and mail.mydomain.com properly but ns.mydomain.com and ns2.mydomain.com don't work - my zone file for BIND is set up the same way for both - is there any reason that some of my DNS stuff works but the nameservers don't?
[12:26] <jiboumans> Cromulent: your dns servers may simply not respond to ping? (not all machines do)
[12:27] <Cromulent> jiboummans: its all the same machine which is what is perplexing :)
[12:28] <Cromulent> I think I'm going to leave it for a bit and see if it is a DNS propagation issue
[12:28] <jiboumans> Cromulent: and all the same interface? what does 'host ns.mydomain.com' tell you?
[12:29] <Cromulent> it gives me the correct IP address
[12:29] <Cromulent> but ping says unknown host
[12:34] <jiboumans> Cromulent: that's somewhat strange. i trust that a ping of that ip works just fine
[12:34] <jiboumans> Cromulent: at which point your 'ping' is acting strange by not resolving teh same way 'host' does, but the system runs fine
[12:38] <Cromulent> yep ping to the IP address directly works fine - everything else is fine including as I say pinging other parts of the same nameserver - but the nameserver records themselves seem to be playing up
[12:53] <Jeeves_> compliments on the Lucid server installer. To whom it may concern :)
[12:57] <cjwatson> thanks :)
[12:57] <Jeeves_> It installed almost without issues.
[12:57] <ogra> almost ?
[12:57] <Jeeves_> grub(2) didn't want to install
[13:10] <pmatulis> that's pretty serious!
[13:15] <Jeeves_> Lilo did, and i'm doing stuff with raid1 and have been fiddling around with lvm
[13:15] <Jeeves_> so that might be the issue
[13:17] <lenios> anyone knows where i should put 'aide --check' to have it to check on each boot?
[13:18] <lenios> grub2 is supposed to be able to boot on raid1
[13:21] <Jeeves_> lenios: I know
[13:22] <Jeeves_> But i've seen more installers having issues with it
[13:22] <Jeeves_> btw, there allready was a bug about lucid server staying in TTY7 and not showing TTY0, right?
[13:28] <acalvo> easiest way to deploy a load-balanced with failover web/mysql server?
[13:35] <ttx> kirkland: ping
[13:35] <ttx> I already filed a bug about the network/metadata issue with CLC separated from CC
[13:35] <ttx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/527648
[13:36] <ttx> so no need for you to file one
[13:36] <Jeeves_> acalvo: Hmm, I would say keepalived and mysql ring-replication
[13:37] <acalvo> thanks! (I've just googled and found pound and mod_proxy_balancer for apache)
[13:37] <ttx> kirkland: I'm currently trying to reproduce using plain ISOs, just to make sure it's not something we introduce in preseeds. It definitely used to work, so I wonder when it regressed :)
[13:38] <Jeeves_> acalvo: That would still introduce a single point of failure
[13:38] <acalvo> well, I'll take a closer look at your suggestions
[13:38] <lenios> you can read that too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HighlyAvailableLAMP
[13:40] <kaushal> hi
[13:40] <kaushal> can someone guide me about http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/deployer-howto.html ?
[13:40] <kaushal> i did downloaded the TCD
[13:41] <kaushal> After extracting i see only build.xml  docs  images  lib  LICENSE
[13:41] <kaushal> NOTICE  RELEASE-NOTES
[13:41] <kaushal> got stuck and not able to proceed
[13:41] <acalvo> lenios: thanks
[13:45] <lenios> kaushal, well it says you have to install it
[13:45] <kirkland> ttx: okay
[13:46] <kaushal> lenios: i did not understand
[13:46] <kirkland> ttx: i saw your second email before i filed one
[13:46] <kirkland> ttx: agreed, this is a recent regression
[13:46] <ttx> kirkland: I suspect that some of the networking setup is no longer applied, or something like that
[13:47] <lenios> kaushal, "An installation is however required if you wish to use the Tomcat Client Deployer (TCD)."
[13:47] <kaushal> lenios: really confused
[13:48] <kaushal> I have already TC server running
[13:48] <lenios> i guess you have to install it like any other webapp on tomcat
[13:48] <kaushal> ok
[13:53] <kaushal> lenios: i reread http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/deployer-howto.html
[13:53] <kaushal> still not clear
[13:53] <ttx> kirkland: reproduced issue with plain ISOs, fwiw
[13:53] <kaushal> please guide
[13:53] <kirkland> ttx: right; i saw it across the board; all 3 methods i tested installation
[13:54] <kirkland> ttx: i wonder if our ephemeral "fix" regressed this
[13:54] <kirkland> ttx: that's the only thing that's changed related the metadata in a while
[13:54] <kirkland> ttx: unless it's a problem at another layer
[13:54] <ttx> kirkland: It's not metadata that is failing
[13:55] <ttx> it's plain networking
[13:55] <ttx> you can ping karmic instance from CC/SC
[13:55] <ttx> but not from CLC/Walrus
[13:55] <kirkland> hmm
[13:56] <ttx> so it's just the network between instance and CLC/Walrus that's broken. A side effect being... metadata can't be accessed from the instance
[13:56] <smoser> can i get at somewhere that shows this ?
[13:56] <smoser> i can hack an image and register it to put some ssh keys inside already
[13:56] <smoser> so we don't have to worry about the metadata service not being there, you'll be able to get in and see what is going wrong
[13:58] <kirkland> smoser: the datacenter setup
[13:58] <smoser> o.
[13:58] <smoser> ok
[13:59] <ttx> looks like the bridge device is set up correctly...
[14:03] <ttx> kirkland: is VNET_PUBINTERFACE / VNET_PRIVINTERFACE supposed to be set on CCs ?
[14:05] <kirkland> ttx: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/en/man5/eucalyptus.conf.5.html
[14:06] <kirkland> ttx: according to that, it's in the "       Options affecting CC, NC only:" section
[14:06] <kirkland> ttx: i wrote that manpage based on an email i got from nurmi
[14:06] <ttx> kirkland: ok, thx
[14:06] <kirkland> ttx: if you haven't seen that manpage yet, it's really good; writing it really demystified eucalyptus.conf for me
[14:07] <ttx> kirkland: I'll have to read it
[14:07] <ttx> kirkland: VNET_*INTERFACE is set correctly, so it's not coming from there...
[14:07] <ttx> kirkland: as far as I can tell, network is set up like it's supposed to...
[14:11] <ttx> kirkland: I'm running out of ideas and need to spend time on some other things... i suspect we'll need Dan's help on this one.
[14:12] <ttx> smoser: having an image that can boot and be sshed into without requiring metadata service would probably help in debugging
[14:12] <smoser> its being uploaded now
[14:12] <ttx> smoser: cool, thanks
[14:12] <smoser> i *think* that emi-B1F6186B should come up, and be reachable by ubuntu@cempedak
[14:12] <smoser> testing that assertion now
[14:12] <ttx> i'm pretty sure you'll be able to ssh into that one from the CC, but not from the CLC
[14:13] <smoser> i'm on cempedak
[14:13] <ttx> and that you won't be able to query the metadata service at all.
[14:13] <smoser> shoot.
[14:14] <smoser> it went immediately to shutting_down
[14:14] <ttx> smoser: the karmic images boot alright
[14:15] <ttx> you can ping them from CC / it's just that you can't SSh into them because no authorized_keys is queried from metadata
[14:15] <ttx> but... you can't ping them from CLC
[14:15] <ttx> that kinda proves that there is an issue in networking between the components.
[14:18] <smoser> so it didn't boot because i forgot --instance-type c1.medium
[14:19] <smoser> i think small fails because root filesystem is 2G and small disk is 2G, leaving no room for space
[14:19] <smoser> s/space/swap/
[14:24] <ttx> kirkland: ping me when you've 5 minutes
[14:26] <smoser> ttx, ok, where should i be able to reach this instance from ?
[14:26] <ttx> CC
[14:28] <kirkland> ttx: i have all the time you need
[14:29] <ttx> kirkland: wanted to quickly discuss which bugs we should escalate to eucalyptus on todays call, trying to prioritize
[14:29] <kirkland> ttx: okay, you want to call me?
[14:29] <ttx> kirkland: no, we can discuss it here, should be quick
[14:30] <ttx> I think we should mention bug 525989, bug 527648 and bug 526506
[14:31] <kirkland> ttx: definitely
[14:31] <ttx> the last one seems of lesser importance, but I'm scared by users taking out nodes just by running the wrong command
[14:31] <kirkland> ttx: agreed
[14:31] <ttx> so if we can reproduce in lucid...
[14:31] <ttx> anything else I missed ?
[14:32] <smoser> kirkland, what host is the cc in the datacenter ?
[14:32] <ttx> bug 522204 is also an upstream fix, but it's less important, and we can suggest a patch, so i'd leave it out for the moment
[14:32] <kirkland> ttx: i'm looking
[14:33] <kirkland> smoser: are there any standing euca2ools/boto issues?
[14:34] <kirkland> smoser: seems like we've been staying on top of working around them as they come up
[14:34] <smoser> not that i'm aware of.
[14:34] <ttx> kirkland: also if you agree with my comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/519870, feel free to move it to cloud-init
[14:34] <kirkland> smoser: santol is the cc
[14:35] <ttx> smoser: you'll have to copy keys over to connect from the CC
[14:35] <kirkland> ttx: i do agree with your comment; i was wondering how to mark a bug as affecting the image itself
[14:35] <kirkland> ttx: i suppose cloud-init is about as close as we can get
[14:35] <ttx> kirkland: yes, it's basically a ec2-init SRU for karmic and a respin
[14:36] <ttx> smoser: you had a karmic refresh planned in the next weeks, iirc ?
[14:36] <smoser> ttx, yes
[14:36] <kirkland> ttx: done
[14:36] <ttx> smoser: you think it's doable to do the hostname trick in the same run ?
[14:37] <smoser> hold on
[14:38] <kirkland> ttx: that looks like the most critical short list
[14:39] <ttx> kirkland: Ok, thanks. I prefer us to sync before the call so that we come up with a sane argument :)
[14:39] <kirkland> ttx: agreed
[14:39] <ttx> (the "importance" was correctly reflecting what's important, which is good) :)
[14:46] <smoser> ttx, ok. so above, the hostname trick yeah, we can do that back into karmic.
[14:47] <kirkland> smoser: okay, cool
[14:50] <smoser> ttx, kirkland in data center, emi-B1E0185E is runnable.
[14:51] <smoser> it is mostly a static instance, and the ubuntu user on santol can go straight in
[14:51] <kirkland> smoser: and ssh-able?
[14:51] <smoser> yeah
[14:51] <kirkland> smoser: from santol
[14:51] <kirkland> smoser: what about from cempedak? (the clc)
[14:51] <ttx> smoser; right
[14:51] <smoser> right. go to santol, then ssh 172.19.1.3
[14:51] <smoser> i can't get there from cempedak, as ttx expected, no ping either.
[14:51] <ttx> shoudl fail from clc .. and you should fail to query metadata from the instance as well
[14:51] <ttx> that confirms my findings
[14:54] <smoser> yeah
[14:54] <smoser> from inside the guest
[14:54] <smoser> $ telnet 169.254.169.254 80
[14:54] <smoser> Trying 169.254.169.254...
[14:54] <smoser> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[14:54] <smoser> ttx, kirkland i'll try to write a script to "fix" an instance
[14:54] <smoser> err, i mean an image
[14:55] <smoser> so it really does nothing on boot but has your keys embedded already
[14:58] <gzur> Hi there, I'm running Ubuntu Server 9.10 and I'm gettins No space left on device errors all of a sudden, running "df- Th" shows me that I have 8.5 Gigs left on my ext4 primary filesystem- there are some other tmpfs with 200-500 MB free, so I don't understand why I'm getting this message
[14:59] <netrat> gzur, are you using quotas? are you out of inodes?
[14:59] <soren> gzur: What does "df -ih" say?
[15:00] <smoser> also, as non-root, there may be 5% reserved for root
[15:03] <Omahn> Hi all. I just tried upgrading from 8.04 to 10.04 on a cloned VM and it failed immediately with:
[15:04] <Omahn> Exception during pm.DoInstall():  E:Couldn't configure pre-depend mountall for upstart, probably a dependency cycle.
[15:04] <Omahn> Should I report a bug on mountall or upstart? :)
[15:05] <zul> is there a way to cache ssh keys on the CLI
[15:05] <netrat> Omahn, Exception during pm.DoInstall():  E:Couldn't configure pre-depend mountall for upstart, probably a dependency cycle
[15:05] <netrat> Omahn, sorry about that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/527605
[15:05] <Omahn> ta.
[15:05] <Omahn> netrat: Does update-manager provide do-release-upgrade?
[15:05] <smoser> zul, what does cache ssh keys mean ?
[15:06] <Omahn> Yes it does. :-)
[15:06] <zul> smoser: nm figured it out
[15:06] <Pici> ssh-agent
[15:08] <netrat> Omahn, sorry i'm not for sure.. I'm sticking with 8.04 for awhile until all the bugs get sorted out
[15:09] <Omahn> netrat: We're trying to do as many test upgrades as possible to make sure all the bugs are caught as early as possible :-)
[15:13] <netrat> Omahn, thanks for sorting all the bugs out for me!
[15:14] <Omahn> netrat: You need to understand, I'm not sorting them, I'm just finding them ;-)
[15:21] <gzur> netrat and soren: df -oh says Inodes: 2.3 - IUsed: 2.3 IFree: 1 IUse%: 100%, so yes I', out of inodes :)
[15:21] <gzur> thanks
[15:23] <gzur> What does that mean?
[15:23] <gzur> can I increase the number of inodes?
[15:24] <netrat> gzur, i think the number of inodes is set when the filesystem is created... what are you using the filesystem for if you don't mind me asking?
[15:24] <gzur> Storing images used in a tiled web mapping service
[15:25] <gzur> It's an obscene number of files/directories
[15:25] <netrat> gzur, what type of filesystem? be back in a few
[15:26] <gzur> netrat: ext4 I think
[15:27] <gzur> netrat: ext4 for certain :)
[15:41] <netrat> gzur, the number of inodes is set at filesystem creation. i don't think you can increase that number afterwards
[15:43] <netrat> gzur, normally the number of inodes is set with a bytes-per-inode ratio. check the man page for mkfs.ext4, the i, I, and N flags should be of interest
[15:45] <gzur> is it possible that the there might be junk inodes?
[15:48] <gzur> netrat: and thanks for the man page ref - it's exactly what I need it seems.
[16:20] <panter> hi .. i have problem with my own deb repository ... i have few own packages (mostly with scripts) .. and need to install and update this packages on several servers .... i followed this tutorial ... http://mediakey.dk/~cc/howto-create-your-own-debian-or-ubuntu-package-repository/ ... i can add repository to /etc/apt/sources.list but i can't see packages from my repo ... is there anybody who can help me?
[16:40] <zul> why not just use ppa?
[18:21] <oru_work> in ubuntu with postfix/dovecot, i need to forward everything from one email address to the other, how can I accoplish this ?
[18:47] <Dittohead> I have recently setup a couple of 9.10 x86 servers for some LAMP and zenoss duties. I've added a new source for zenoss, but it kicks back a 407 Proxy Authentication Required for the zenoss source. Strangely, the others work just fine. It doesn't seem to be making an attempt to authenticate on the zenoss source. Any ideas?
[19:00] <shang> hi all, I am having some issue with likewise joining the domain. After the system reboot, it will take about 1 minute for the system to get the ticket from the windows server
[19:00] <shang> any direction that where I should look will be much appreciated!
[19:07] <exobuzz> any smartd experts? drive reported a bad sector (Current_Pending_Sector of 1).. i did a long selftest that failed on LBA 976768629. i tried reading from that block (dd if=/dev/sdv skip=976768629 bs=512) and it was fine! did a raid check/resync and no recoverable error. did another long selftest and the disk reported no errors but the Current_Pending_Sector and Offline_Uncorrectable are still not 0
[19:08] <exobuzz> will the pending sector not go until the block is rewritten ? despite the fact it seems to be able to read it now (or it seems it was a intermittent issue?(
[19:15] <ivoks> kees: i'm here to answer any of your questions regarding heartbeat/openais/corosync/pacemaker
[19:17] <kees> ivoks: ah-ha, excellent.
[19:17] <kees> ivoks: so, what's the issue with 2.99 vs 3.0 ?
[19:17] <ivoks> kees: 2.99 was mutant
[19:17] <ivoks> kees: it was a development snapshot that worked at one point
[19:18] <ivoks> kees: but since then heartbeat isn't the same
[19:18] <ivoks> kees: in 3.0 it contains only portions of 2.99, while portions were split into cluster-glue and cluster-agents
[19:18] <kees> ivoks: how soon do you think Debian will have the 3.0 stuff?
[19:18] <ivoks> kees: and some parts were removed
[19:19] <ivoks> kees: very
[19:19] <ivoks> kees: actually, i'll be working with debian-ha-maintainers on adopting new stuff
[19:19] <kees> ivoks: I would feel much better about it in an LTS if it were reasonably in sync with Debian.
[19:19] <kees> overall, I'm find with heartbeat being in main from both an MIR and security perspective.
[19:19] <kees> s/find/fine
[19:20] <kees> but I would rather the discontinuity with Debian was solved first.
[19:20] <ivoks> kees: i doubt new version will get in before beta1
[19:20] <ivoks> (in debian)
[19:22] <kees> ivoks: I'll comment on the bug and conditionally approve it.
[19:22] <ivoks> ok
[19:23] <kees> ivoks: on a totally separate topic, do you have any idea where ACL/xattr support stands with tar?  I know you'd looked into it briefly at one point.
[19:23] <ivoks> kees: haven't look at it
[19:23] <ivoks> kees: there were some issues with the patch
[19:24] <kees> ivoks: yeah, the email thread seems to have died out a bit.
[19:24] <ivoks> kees: i'm not sure there was any change after that
[19:24] <ivoks> well, that's just bad.
[19:24] <kees> ivoks: what confused me is that RH seems to carry that flawed patch; I'd figure it would cause a lot of pain for them.
[19:24] <ivoks> but it looks it's working
[19:26] <kees> yeah, weird.
[19:28] <ivoks> kees: if you have any other questions about cluster stuff, ping me
[19:28] <kees> ivoks: sure thing.  thanks!
[19:40] <areay> hi all... does anyone know of a good guide to getting ldap/kerberos working? all the guides i've found either don't work, don't make sense, or are outdated...
[19:41] <unit3> Ok. It looks like nfs mounts in fstab attempt to happen before the system brings up my main bridge device on boot.
[19:41] <ivoks> unit3: karmic?
[19:41] <unit3> yep.
[19:42] <unit3> is there an easy way to reorder this? get it to activate the bridge device so I have networking before it tries to mount nfs stuff?
[19:42] <ivoks> unit3: you have /home on nfs?
[19:42] <unit3> yeah
[19:42] <unit3> exactly. :)
[19:42] <ivoks> unit3: workaround i did was mounting nfs share to /srv/home
[19:42] <ivoks> unit3: and then in rc.local
[19:42] <unit3> oh, bind it to /home.
[19:42] <unit3> gotcha.
[19:42] <ivoks> unit3: mount -a followd by mount bind /srv/home to /home
[19:43] <unit3> I guess that'd work in the short term. do you know if there's a launchpad bug I can follow about this?
[19:43] <ivoks> this was fixed in lucid
[19:43] <unit3> oh, is there a package I can backport to fix it?
[19:43] <ivoks> hopefully, there'll be a backport at some point
[19:43] <ivoks> fix is in 'upstart' package
[19:44] <ivoks> and i wouldn't recomend backporting it :)
[19:44] <unit3> oh, I guess because there's tons of other changes that'd need to accompany it?
[19:44] <ivoks> correct
[19:44] <ivoks> lucid will be out soon
[19:44] <unit3> I could still use a link to the launchpad bug then, just to try and track down the changes and maybe make my own patch.
[19:44] <unit3> Yeah, but I have broken production servers now. :P
[19:44] <ivoks> i know
[19:44] <ivoks> same problem i had
[19:45] <ivoks> but i'll be using workaround till lucid is released
[19:45] <unit3> fair enough. I guess I'll put that in place for the time being.
[19:45] <unit3> thanks. :)
[19:45] <ivoks> np
[19:47] <ivoks> well, 'night all
[19:55] <JamesCard> Where should I place my web files? Using IIS I usually have them in separate directories away from the webroot. I don't think I want them all in /var/www. What makes sense for a public webserver built on Ubuntu?
[19:56] <RoAkSoAx> JamesCard, you can place them where ever you want. You *don't* have to place them under /var/www
[19:57] <RoAkSoAx> JamesCard, however, you will need to edit the root in the webserver's config file
[19:57] <JamesCard> Right, I know I can create aliases. Just wondering what is suggested as best practice.
[19:58] <JamesCard> This server will have a single user, but we'd rather not have to deal with sudo every time we want to touch any of our web files.
[19:59] <da65> is it easy to set up irc on my new ubuntu server,
[19:59] <JamesCard> Keeping them in the admin user's home directory seems most convenient, but are reasons we might not want to do that?
[19:59] <RoAkSoAx> JamesCard, well, if you are using apache, and you create a public_html file in $HOME of each user, you can do that
[19:59] <RoAkSoAx> or either, give different permissions to whereever your files are
[20:06] <JamesCard> On Windows servers we usually create a C:\Projects\Web directory to contain everything the webserver should see. Perhaps these files make sense in /opt or /srv -- they are, after all, not user-specific files and don't seem to belong in /home.
[20:09] <RoAkSoAx> JamesCard, whatever makes your live easier :). I mean /var/www is just a default as many other things windows has for default directories...
[20:11] <JamesCard> RoAkSoAx: thanks.
[20:12] <RoAkSoAx> JamesCard, no prob.
[20:16] <JamesCard> According to <http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#SRVDATAFORSERVICESPROVIDEDBYSYSTEM> it looks like /srv is the "proper" place. Makes sense to me, at least. Thanks.
[20:47] <alvin> unit3: The bug you're looking for is bug #470776
[20:51] <unit3> oh, thanks. :)
[20:55] <mdeslaur> soren: is this a known issue with the latest vmbuilder? http://paste.ubuntu.com/383941/
[20:56] <mdeslaur> soren: also, vmbuilder --help seems to be broken...didn't that work before?
[21:09] <soren> mdeslaur: Not entirely a known problem. Not entirely surprising either, now that I think about it, though.
[21:10] <soren> Gah.
[21:12] <soren> 22:09:53 < soren> mdeslaur: Not entirely a known problem. Not entirely surprising either, now that I think about it, though.
[21:12] <soren> mdeslaur: If you file a bug about it, I'll bet it'll be fixed within the next 12-14 hours.
[21:13] <mdeslaur> soren: hehe, will do then :)
[21:13]  * soren ponders
[21:17] <mdeslaur> soren: bug #528027
[21:47] <decembre> hello
[21:47] <decembre> I have some probleme with usb !
[21:47] <decembre> my lsusb does return anything except the Linux root hub !
[22:23] <unit3> decembre: what kind of devices do you have plugged in via USB, and what release of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:50] <udha> echo request
[22:50]  * lifeless requests
[22:51] <lifeless> kirkland: I've upgraded my home server to lucid; so I will be able to try those UEC bugs
[22:51] <kirkland> lifeless: well done!
[22:51] <lifeless> kirkland: but also, I'm going to stab at getting all services on one machine: DHCP, DNSd, UEC*
[22:51] <kirkland> lifeless <---- ambitious man
[22:51] <lifeless> kirkland: well, it was a bit of a disaster: 4 dependency bugs found and reported; up to 3:30ish am.
[22:52] <kirkland> lifeless: btw, Karmic UEC -> Lucid UEC upgrade is known broken
[22:52] <lifeless> kirkland: it will be an experience
[22:52] <kirkland> lifeless: i'm tackling that on Monday
[22:52] <lifeless> kirkland: thats ok, this machine was running hardy.
[22:52] <kirkland> lifeless: ah
[22:52] <lifeless> which is why I found all these bugs ;)
[22:53] <udha> can I ask a noob questions without being flammed here? haven't been in this channel before...
[22:53] <udha> *question
[22:53] <lifeless> udha: yep, we're nice. We might point you at a better  forum, but we can't tell until you ask the question.
[22:54] <Roxyhart0> sombody know why when i create a new user (ldap) and i do permision in a folder for this user is just take permision as dnslog and not as the "user"
[22:55] <udha> lifeless, thanks, I'm just downloading ubuntu 9.10 server (64bit) for a headless box at home, and noticed for the first time the enterprise cloud features for multiple systems, but was wonding if someone can explain the basics of it?
[22:55] <lifeless> Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud?
[22:55] <lifeless> udha: ^ is that what you're referring to?
[22:56] <udha> lifeless, yes that's right
[22:57] <lifeless> http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/private has some high level info
[22:57] <lifeless> what sort of basics are you interested in: capabilities? how it works? what it lets you do?
[22:57] <udha> thanks lifeless, haven't seen this page before, reading now...
[22:58] <Pirate_Hunter> hi can anyone provide me a linux alternative to what this link from m$ proposes http://networkedblogs.com/p28446238 thanks
[22:59] <udha> So with the cloud options, could I say, run a LAMP website and have it scale automatically across machines in the cloud as it's usage expands?
[22:59] <udha> Or use it for a high-availability DNS cluster etc?
[23:00] <udha> What would happen if a machine failed?
[23:01] <Pirate_Hunter> anyone? even knowing udha might be talking about what I am looking for
[23:01] <udha> Pirate_Hunger: I'm having a look at that link now...
[23:02] <Pirate_Hunter> oh ok I found it quite interesting specially the whole application and cloud working together
[23:02] <udha> Having MS and Government tied together even closer than they are already makes me very afraid
[23:04] <udha> Pirate_Hunter: that video and article are talking about cloud services online right?
[23:04] <udha> I'm still watching the vid, 4 mins..
[23:05] <Pirate_Hunter> udha, not exactly it talks about the cloud service as well as having tailored software on the server. However the main benefit is both cloud and the server (software) working together
[23:06] <Pirate_Hunter> there is quite a lot of benefits to that I just want to know if linux has something similar as an alternative even if it hasn't progressed to that level
[23:07] <udha> :Pirate_Hunter: I only just came here to ask about Ubuntu's cloud services myself, so I'm no authority on the subject, but I'll need to see more than a paper-cut-out video to form any kind of opinion about the Software+ idea
[23:07] <udha> I've just started reading this if it's of any help: http://www.ubuntu.com/system/files/introduction-to-cloud-computing_server_cloud.pdf
[23:08] <udha> Pirate_Hunder: Is that video/article talking about anything beyond SaaS?
[23:09] <Pirate_Hunter> fair enough I understand what you mean, I got quite hyped about this piece of news it is on the lines of what I was already thinking. I am currently designing a server so looking at the options available and will read that link might contain something that will help me out
[23:09] <udha> Pirate_Hunder: lifeless has answered a few Qs for me already, and would probably be better suited to your question, I'd stick around to see if you get a reply
[23:11] <Pirate_Hunter> will do, however it is late evening/night here so not sure how long I can be here for, you could just pastebin your part of the convo for me to read
[23:12] <udha> not enough to require pastbin:  < lifeless> http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/private has some high level info
[23:12] <lifeless> udha: UEC provides VM images on-demand using a programming API
[23:12] <udha> I haven't followed up with anything else yet
[23:12] <lifeless> udha: so yes, you can use it to do a LAMP based website with automatic scaling; there are various folk writing tools to use the programming API to do just that.
[23:12] <udha> lifeless: Ok, so it is a Virtual Hyper Visor sortof thing, like VMWare ESX or XEN Server etc?
[23:13] <lifeless> it builds on top of those
[23:13] <lifeless> on top of kvm specifically
[23:13] <lifeless> so you have as 'node controller' machines as you want
[23:13] <udha> lifeless: thanks, I'd have expected it to use kvm, thanks for clarifying
[23:13] <lifeless> and when you use the API to start a vm it picks a machine that has enough capacity and starts the vm there, gives it an IP address etc
[23:14] <udha> lifeless: so I'd need two physical machines to start playing with it right?
[23:14] <lifeless> if you have an existing network with DHCP and DNS working, you can add a single machine to that network to play with.
[23:15] <udha> lifeless: I know I started with home use, but for the cloud I'm thinking of datacenter use, no DHCP, just static IPv4/6 address assignments
[23:15] <lifeless> it works fine in that configuration, though there are bugs that can affect getting started. The Topologies page in the ubuntu help wiki documents the config for a single machine setup
[23:15] <lifeless> udha: you want dhcp
[23:15] <lifeless> for this, in the datacentre
[23:15] <udha> DHCP across 100+ switches and routers?
[23:15] <lifeless> thats what its designed for
[23:16] <lifeless> its not really intended for networks the admin can walk around to see each machine :)
[23:16] <udha> the routers aren't going to forward that traffic without reconfiguration
[23:17] <udha> hang on, are we talking about the physical machine or the VM deployments?
[23:17] <lifeless> for the VMs
[23:17] <Roxyhart0> hi there somebody know any irc tool for free?
[23:18] <udha> Roxyhart0: irc 'tool'? like a client?
[23:18] <udha> Roxyhart0: and for cli or gui?
[23:18] <lifeless> udha: but you can [and I would argue should] be using it for your machines too
[23:18] <lifeless> udha: you don't need to use it for your machines; you do for the VM's
[23:18] <lifeless> otherwise they can't act as templates
[23:19] <udha> lifeless: DHCP for customer equipment isn't really an option, it would actually complicate management and billing enourmously.
[23:19] <lifeless> udha: you can statically assign /via/ DHCP
[23:19] <lifeless> udha: have a reserved range for unknown machines - they would get firewalled off, can use that for bringing up new hardware
[23:20] <udha> lifeless: each assignment is allocated to a specific port and vlan, unless we go for cisco's Unified fabric I don't know an easy way to automate this
[23:20] <lifeless> udha: anyhow, point is, you don't need to change your environment to do this; but you will need /a/ DHCP server to serve IP's to the VM instances brought up on node controllers
[23:20] <udha> lifeless: how about the primary could server?
[23:20] <udha> run DHCP3 or somethign on it?
[23:21] <lifeless> quite possibly
[23:21] <udha> lifeless: well it won't be hard to accomodate the dhcp requirement at any rate
[23:23] <Roxyhart0> hi udha icr as client with gui
[23:23] <Roxyhart0> urc*
[23:24] <udha> Roxyhart0: mIRC is a popular one for windows, I've only use cli clients in linux though, I'm using irssi atm
[23:25] <Roxyhart0> thanks udha
[23:26] <hggdh> there are xchat, pidgin, empathy/telepathy (graphical); also irssi and weechat (curses/terminal)
[23:26] <Roxyhart0> im looking for windows
[23:26] <udha> mIRC
[23:26] <Roxyhart0> thanks
[23:26] <udha> unless times have changed since 10 years ago ;P
[23:27] <cef> there is also a version of xchat for windows.. which is useful if you use xchat on linux having the same thing in both places'
[23:27] <Pirate_Hunter> no they havent it is still popular just annoying now they've done major changes on the design... well to say I can't use it and not frown
[23:28] <Pirate_Hunter> udha, thanks for that will continue reading it in 2-3hrs from now need to have some shut eyes before than take care
[23:29] <udha> Pirate_Hunter: take it easy
[23:31] <ruben23>  hi anyone used automysqlbackup..?
[23:33] <udha> ruben32: I havn't, no. What does it do? Anything like MySQL replication sort of thing?
[23:34] <udha> ruben32: or is it like a mysqladmin database dump wiht cron?
[23:35] <ruben23> udha: auto dump and have schedules
[23:35] <udha> is automysqlbackup an actual program? Or something you want to do?
[23:36] <ruben23> its a script, you can run
[23:36] <ruben23> on cron
[23:39] <Roxyhart0> hi someone know how i can unistall djbdns (tinydns) from a installation followed from http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-djbdns-setup-on-ubuntu8.04-amd64
[23:42] <soren> mdeslaur: Fix committed.
[23:42] <udha> Roxyhart0: I haven't used that tutorial or djbdns before, but should it be: sudo aptitude remove <packagename>
[23:42] <soren> mdeslaur: Took a bit longer than I'd hoped, but it should be pretty shiny now.
[23:42]  * soren heads bedwards
[23:56] <mdeslaur> soren: thanks!