[01:11] <jblue> Is there a channel dedicated to discussion of loggerhead?
[01:12] <spiv> Not that I know of.  It would be ok to talk about it on #bzr probably.
[01:14] <jblue> Alright thanks
[02:16] <StevenK> Hi, how can I run just one test (or group of tests) in LP's test suite rather than waiting 2.5 hours for make check?
[02:17] <thumper> StevenK: ./bin/test -vvt <test name?
[02:17] <thumper> damn sausage fingers
[02:17] <thumper> <test name>
[02:17] <thumper> StevenK: or substring match of the test names
[02:24] <wgrant> StevenK: What Launchpad evil are you committing?
[02:25] <StevenK> wgrant: Nothing ...
[02:30] <StevenK> thumper: Ah ha, it's the name of the test not the file the test is in. That's got it, thanks.
[02:31] <wgrant> StevenK: The filename should work too. What were you trying?
[02:31] <wgrant> (also... 2.5 hours for make check? That's like so two years ago. It's more like 4 now)
[02:32] <thumper> wgrant: he might have a fast machine :)
[02:32] <StevenK> wgrant: I ran the test suite on my machine last night:
[02:32] <StevenK> Total: 25757 tests, 47 failures, 3 errors in 194 minutes 39.537 seconds.
[02:32] <wgrant> 3:15. Not bad.
[02:32] <StevenK> Meh, I was sleeping
[02:43] <StevenK> wgrant: As it turns out, a machine that can run WoW well can also run the LP test suite quickly. :-)
[02:44] <StevenK> If I could figure out how to make check peg both CPUs, it'd probably run quicker again
[02:50] <wgrant> StevenK: The test suite cannot run concurrently, due to shared resources like the database.
[02:53] <StevenK> Oh well
[02:55]  * StevenK grumbles at a test assuming /var and /tmp are on the same device, and os.rename() dying
[02:59] <wgrant> Welcome to Soyuz.
 If I could figure out how to make check peg both CPUs, it'd probably run quicker again
[03:02] <mwhudson> StevenK: you would also quickly be buried under presents from grateful launchpad developers
[03:11] <StevenK> Haha
[03:16] <StevenK> wgrant: bin/test does take a -j option
[03:18] <wgrant> StevenK: Whether it does anything is another matter entirely.
[03:23] <StevenK> wgrant: True
[03:27] <Andre_Gondim> Hi everyone, I need to create a list in one group at lp, but I recived this message The application for this team's mailing list has been declined. Please contact a Launchpad administrator for further assistance.
[03:35] <wgrant> Andre_Gondim: Which team?
[03:36] <Andre_Gondim> wgrant,   https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugames
[08:45] <tseliot> it looks like I was subscribed to https://launchpad.net/~canonical-dx-team/+archive/ppa but I can't access the page. Any ideas?
[08:45] <tseliot> (my username is albertomilone)
[08:47] <noodles775> tseliot: Hi, being subscribed to a private PPA currently only gives you access to download software from that private PPA, not to view the PPA itself.
[08:48] <tseliot> noodles775: shall I ask the owner to give me upload rights if I want to browse the PPA page?
[08:48] <noodles775> tseliot: This will be changing soon, but currently to be able to view the private PPA you need to be a member of the owning team.
[08:49] <tseliot> ah
[08:49] <tseliot> noodles775: ok, thanks
[08:49] <noodles775> np.
[09:10] <wgrant> noodles775: One must be a member of the owning team or be an additional uploader.
[09:12] <noodles775> wgrant: yeah, but the latter can only be done via the API right?
[09:13] <noodles775> But right, my sentance implied the only way was to be a member.
[09:14] <wgrant> Adding people who aren't in DX to the DX team is probably inadvisable, so I thought it best to clarify that there existed another option.
[09:14] <wgrant> And yes, it's only possible through the API.
[09:15] <noodles775> Yes, good point.
[09:17] <bigjools> people added like that get more email
[09:20] <wgrant> I think everybody is already used to filtering emails from LP's dodgy notification setup, though.
[11:12] <gnomefreak> im fairly sure im not getting all bug mail in one of my email boxes. i checked gmail from web and it is the same # as thunderbird
[11:16] <RAOF> gnomefreak: And gmail's spam filter isn't eating it?  Mine's been consuming an annoying number of interesting messages.
[11:16] <gnomefreak> RAOF: nope
[11:17] <gnomefreak> i get about 20 in 24 hours where it was more like 80 in 24 hours
[13:07] <wgrant> Is there a script around to let me close all the bugs associated with a milestone?
[13:12] <deryck> wgrant, yeah, in launchpadlib/contrib, I believe.  close-my-bugs, or something like that.
[13:14] <techrascal> i have a question regarding installation of launchpad on a remote server.
[13:14] <techrascal> i have a jailed ssh access to a remote server, which doesnt give me sudo access
[13:14] <techrascal> i was unable to install bazaar on it, can anyone help me with installing launchpad on the server?
[13:15] <wgrant> deryck: Ah, indeed. Thanks.
[13:15] <thekorn> wgrant,   ilaunchpad-shell --service STAGING_SERVICE_ROOT -c 'for t in launchpad.projects["zeitgeist"].getMilestone(name="0.3.1").searchTasks(): t.transitionToStatus(status="Fix Released")'   ;)
[13:15] <shadeslayer> hi,whats the command to authorize ubuntu dev tools to be able to upload?
[13:21] <shadeslayer> hmm
[13:21] <shadeslayer> any ideas?
[13:22] <wgrant> shadeslayer: ubuntu-dev-tools help is more likely in #ubuntu-motu.
[13:23] <shadeslayer> wgrant: no one knows there as of now :)
[13:32] <mikeul> I'm having a problem with my first ever 'bzr launchpad-login'.  I've uploaded my ssh key, but I'm getting "Server refuses to fulfill the request (403 Forbidden)..."
[13:32] <mikeul> maybe somebody has an idea what I could be doing wrong?
[13:34] <nigelb> mikeul: key is in LP?
[13:34] <nigelb> mikeul: have you pasted the public part of your key into launchpad?
[13:35] <mikeul> Yes, I've uploaded the public part into launchpad. but wait, here's the full error:
[13:36] <mikeul> "bzr: ERROR: Transport error: Server refuses to fulfill the request (403 Forbidden) for https://launchpad.net/~michael-jones/%2Bsshkeys"
[13:37] <mikeul> with wget I can fetch the key from that URL.
[13:39] <wgrant> mikeul: From the same host?
[13:39] <mikeul> does "bzr whoami" have anything to do with the authentication with the public key?
[13:39] <mikeul> wgrant, yes
[13:39] <wgrant> mikeul: No.
[13:40] <wgrant> mikeul: I can lp-login as you fine.
[13:40] <wgrant> How odd.
[13:40] <mikeul> wait- I bet it's a proxy issue.
[13:41] <nigelb> ah, thats possible
[13:41] <mikeul> I have environment variable http_proxy and HTTPS_PROXY defined which wget honors.
[13:41] <mikeul> I haven't done any proxy setup with bzr yet.
[13:43] <mikeul> er... how do I inform bzr of a proxy?
[13:46] <mikeul> hm, according to http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/ConfiguringBzr I would do it with $http_proxy, which I already have set.
[13:48] <wgrant> This isn't bzr itself though -- it's the Launchpad plugin.
[13:48] <wgrant> I don't know what that respects.
[13:48] <wgrant> Hopefully the same thing, but you never know...
[13:57] <persia> wgrant: regarding application authorisations.  Is that a client thing, or a server thing?  I thought there was a UI on LP.
[13:58] <wgrant> persia: There is UI on LP, but the client has to request it.
[13:58] <shadeslayer> found it!
[13:58] <shadeslayer> its manage-credentials in ubuntu dev tools
[13:58] <shadeslayer> manage-credentials - manage Launchpad token credentials.
[13:59] <persia> wgrant: Hrm.  That gets confusing.  I'm getting excited about the concept of some more official LP client tools (rather than scripts stuffed in a variety of places), as that might be easier to avoid redirects.
[14:00] <persia> shadeslayer: Thanks for finding it and announcing the correct script :)
[14:00] <wgrant> persia: The UI on LP is only for the user to be able to say "yes, I allow this application to get a token on my behalf"
[14:01] <persia> wgrant: Yeah, that's what I gleaned from your comment.
[14:01] <shadeslayer> persia: the man page is quite well written out ;)
[14:03] <persia> shadeslayer: Indeed so.  I'm just unsure it belongs in ubuntu-dev-tools (although that was probably the best place for it when it was written).
[14:03] <shadeslayer> persia: hmm well idk about that,the ubuntu dev tools wiki still lists it
[14:03] <persia> shadeslayer: And I'm wrong about -motu being the wrong place, although I'd like to change that for lucid+1 (but it's right for lucid).
[14:04] <persia> shadeslayer: It *is* in ubuntu-dev-tools: I'm just not sure that's where it belongs.  There are a lot of things I believe could be different :)
[14:04] <shadeslayer> persia: hehe
[14:05] <mneptok> kfogel: active?
[14:12] <james_w> why can't I edit the status of https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~statik/ubuntu/lucid/oprofile/really-fix-jit-profiling/+merge/19925 ?
[14:14] <wgrant> james_w: Because the BranchMergeProposal launchpad.Edit adapter is on crack.
[14:14] <wgrant> It is ignorant of official branch permissions.
[14:14] <james_w> but I'm in the owner team!
[14:15] <wgrant> I was just thinking that, yes.
[14:15] <statik> james_w: I could edit it now to clean up the list, i think doko already did an upload that supersedes that branch proposal
[14:15] <james_w> I realise it's broken for others, but it's broken for me as well now!
[14:15] <james_w> statik: yeah, can you edit the status of that one?
[14:16] <wgrant> james_w: You're sure you're logged in? edge has kicked me out once or twice tonight...
[14:16] <james_w> aha!
[14:16] <james_w> thanks wgrant :-)
[14:17] <statik> james_w: my options were work-in-progress or merged, so i deleted it :)
[14:18] <james_w> heh
[14:29] <evmar> i'm unable to load pages on bazaar.launchpad.net.  is this a temporary problem?
[14:43] <gnomefreak> we no longer get upstream comments on bugs is ths intended?
[16:06] <mrjazzcat> hi evmar.  Are you still having this problem with: bazaar.launchpad.net
[16:07] <mrjazzcat> evmar: I am able to reach it.  It takes me to launchpad.net
[16:07] <evmar> mrjazzcat: seems to be fixed now, sorry for th enoise
[16:07] <mrjazzcat> gnomefreak: I'll have to go check on that for you
[16:08] <gnomefreak> mrjazzcat: thanks
[16:08] <mrjazzcat> evmar: great.  just a temporary network thing.
[16:15] <deryck> gnomefreak, hi.  gnome-bugs updates between upstream are down while we try to get our bug syncing stable.
[16:15] <gnomefreak> deryck: thanks mozilla bugs are down too so i have to assukme all bugs are having same issue
[16:15] <gnomefreak> assume
[16:16] <deryck> gnomefreak, mozilla bugs are not explicitly turned off, like gnome bugs, but yes, the whole system of updating bug watches is irregularly updating while we work on it.
[16:16] <gnomefreak> deryck: ok thanks :)
[16:17] <deryck> gnomefreak, np.  This should get better over the next 3-4 weeks.  Sorry for the inconvenience it causes.
[16:17] <gnomefreak> not a problem i was just wondering what happened to it
[16:24] <micahg> since when can invalid bugs not be edited?
[16:25] <micahg> nm, I got timed out
[16:27] <mrjazzcat> hi micahg, A timeout may indicate a bug on our part, not an intent to keep you from editing.  You can report the bug, or ask a question about it.
[16:27] <micahg> mrjazzcat: sorry, I meant my login expired...
[16:28] <mrjazzcat> micahg: np.  So, your cookie expired.  There have been recent changes to the openID implementation.
[16:28] <mrjazzcat> micahg: let me know if you have any trouble either getting back in or if you see this problem over and over again
[16:29] <micahg> mrjazzcat: k
[16:37]  * bdmurray is feeling the heat
[16:37] <bdmurray> 7 out of 4 heat flames!
[16:40] <mrjazzcat> bdmurray: now that's hot!
[17:09] <geser> bdmurray: how did you manage that?
[17:10] <bdmurray> geser: I don't think I had much to do with it.  I was just looking at a bug.
[17:11] <bdmurray> adeuring: is linked_branches exported in the API?  I'm trying to test it now w/o much success.
[17:12] <adeuring> bdmurray: let me check...
[17:12] <adeuring> bdmurray: no, it isn't
[17:13] <bdmurray> adeuring: really? that's rather unfortunate
[17:13] <adeuring> bdmurray: care to file a bug about it? I guess that would be quite interesting for you
[17:14] <bdmurray> adeuring: yes, actually more interesting than the html version ;-)
[17:14] <adeuring> bdmurray: poke deryck about it. Exporting should be easy, and we have a release next week ;)
[17:15] <deryck> not sure what adeuring means by "easy."  :-)
[17:15] <deryck> if it means easy for bdmurray, sure, +1 :-)
[17:15] <adeuring> deryck: It tink that's mostly decorating the interface IBug
[17:16] <adeuring> and a little test
[17:16] <adeuring> s/it tink/i think/
[17:16] <deryck> adeuring, right.  but I know I can't get it today. :-)
[17:16] <adeuring> deryck: right... And edge updated regulary
[17:17]  * adeuring was considering to JFDI , but I have an appointment in ca 90 minutes...
[17:18] <bdmurray> it bug 528569
[17:18] <deryck> bdmurray, if you take it, I can find time to review it today.
[17:19] <bdmurray> deryck: okay, can I get a bigger hint of what needs to be done though
[17:19] <adeuring> bdmurray: let's talk on skype about it
[17:20] <deryck> there you go
[17:29] <bdmurray> deryck: I seem to have already done the work
[17:30] <bdmurray> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/launchpad/api-export-bug-linked-branches/+merge/17821
[17:30] <deryck> interesting.
[17:30] <deryck> bdmurray, doing a review for intellectronica and then I can take a look.
[17:31] <bdmurray> deryck: awesome, thanks
[17:32]  * deryck[lunch] does reviews over lunch
[17:35] <adeuring> deryck[lunch]: the odd thing with bdmurray's branch is that the MP claims that the status is "merged" -- but if you look at the affected files, the cahnges are not there.
[17:35] <adeuring> deryck[lunch]: so... since the branch is already reviewed, I think we can simply land it. Problem is that I'm away after an hour, so... could you run it through ec2?
[17:36] <deryck[lunch]> adeuring, sure
[17:36] <adeuring> deryck[lunch]: thanks!
[17:39] <adeuring> intellectronica: I notice in "bzr log" for devel that you reverted bdmurray's code to export IBug.linked_branches  (back in January). Any special reason?
[17:40] <intellectronica> adeuring: oh i remember exactly why i did that...
[17:40] <intellectronica> ehrm, actually no, i don't remember :)
[17:40] <adeuring> intellectronica: brian asked about it ;)
[17:41] <intellectronica> i remember we experienced some errors and reverted instead of fixing because it was last minute, but i don't remember what the errors were. sorry!
[17:41] <adeuring> Ah, I see.
[17:41] <bdmurray> Maybe it was an ec2 error?
[17:41] <adeuring> intellectronica: could it have been a cyclic import or somesuch?
[17:42] <intellectronica> it could have been
[17:42] <intellectronica> i suggest just update the branch, fire an ec2 test. if everything is ok, land it, if not, well, we'll have a reminder of what the problems were
[18:02] <adeuring> deryck[lunch], bdmurray: Brian's changes were backed out for an unoḱnown reason... I reverted the reversion, erm, I re-installed the changes (lp:~adeuring/launchpad/api-export-bug-linked-branches) and started an ec2 test.
[18:02] <deryck[lunch]> adeuring, ok, cool.
[18:03] <deryck[lunch]> adeuring, so nothing needed from me then?  And this wasn't related to the bugtask age issue, was it?
[18:04] <adeuring> deryck[lunch]: yes and no,. I'm AFK in 30 minutes, and I'm away for much of the weekend. IOW, I can't watch the progress with the branch very carefully :(
[18:04] <deryck[lunch]> adeuring, gotcha.  I'll make a note and keep an eye out.
[18:04] <adeuring> deryck[lunch]: and no, I don't think this is related to bugtask age...
[18:04] <deryck[lunch]> ok, cool.
[18:05] <deryck[lunch]> bdmurray, can you ping me via email if you get a failure email from ec2?
[18:05] <bdmurray> deryck[lunch]: of course
[18:06] <deryck[lunch]> cool
[18:19] <adeuring> deryck, bdmurray: EC2 failed very quickly... I've forwarded the mail to you
[18:19]  * adeuring is now running away, sorry...
[18:21] <deryck> bye bye adeuring :-)
[18:24] <bdmurray> deryck: is there a way to run this same test w/o going through ec2?
[18:25] <deryck> bdmurray, is it a single test?  Haven't looked at mail yet.
[18:25] <bdmurray> I think it's create-lp-wadl.py
[18:27] <deryck> hmmm, never run that.  Usually it's something like:  ./bin/test -cvvt create-lp-wadl
[18:27] <bdmurray> deryck: okay, I've recreated it locally
[18:49] <bdmurray> deryck: let me know when you look at the failure
[18:52] <deryck> bdmurray, will do.  Working on another review right now.
[19:13]  * MTecknology things Canonical should put up about twice as many servers for building packages as they have now - /me doesn't like waiting in line :P
[19:17] <MTecknology> does make me want to pay for a private ppa though :P - 10k boost in priority
[19:31] <MTecknology> how long does it normally take to publish a build that was copied from another ppa?
[19:33] <deryck> bdmurray, so I have to confess these zcml errors are not my strong point. :-)
[19:33] <deryck> bdmurray, branching from you to look closer at this now.
[19:34] <bdmurray> deryck: okay, thanks
[19:36] <Lord-Readman> when will launchpad do its next translation import of approved translations?
[19:47] <LaserJock> I don't seem to be able to unsubscribe a team from a group that I just accidentially subscribed, how can I fix that?
[19:50] <deryck> bdmurray, so I don't know how much I can help today.  I can say it's something to do with missing zcml declarations.
[19:51] <deryck> bdmurray, maybe take a look at something like attachments, i.e. how IBugAttachment is handled in the configure.zcml files.
[19:51] <deryck> bdmurray, I'm sorry that I don't have time to play myself and work it out, but top of the hour is my EOD and family is arriving soon to go out.
[19:53] <bdmurray> okay thanks
[20:33] <mrjazzcat-afk> hi MTecknology and Lord-Readman.  I'll go ask.
[20:34] <mrjazzcat-afk> hi LaserJock.  I've seen this bug too, but don't know what the bug number is.  Do you want it so you can say "affects me to" or no?
[20:38] <mrjazzcat-afk> hi Lord-Readman.  All the translations folks are off now.  To get an answer, you can submit a question at: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[20:39] <mrjazzcat> hi MTecknology.  The best way for you to get an answer would be to submit your question here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[20:41] <mrjazzcat> Hi LaserJock.  If you submit your question online, someone will get on it soon:  https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[20:57] <MTecknology> mrjazzcat: It's not important enough for that - I only wanted an answer if it was readily available - thanks though
[20:58] <mrjazzcat> MTecknology, sorry I didn't know the answer for you.  cheers
[21:47] <wilsonliam> Hey all
[21:47] <wilsonliam> I'm having a bit of trouble signing into Launchpad at the moment, could anyone give me a hand?
[21:49] <lifeless> perhaps
[21:49] <lifeless> what is happening
[21:49] <wilsonliam> When I try to log in after Apport creating a crash report and opening Launchpad in Firefox, I enter my email and password, but I get an error message saying that a validation email has been sent
[21:50] <wilsonliam> But I've already been validated, and it says this when I click the link in the email
[21:50] <lifeless> are you logging into edge ?
[21:51] <wilsonliam> I don't know
[21:52] <wilsonliam> the url begins with bugs.launchpad.com
[21:52] <wilsonliam> net*
[21:53] <lifeless> whats your usercode?
[21:55] <wilsonliam> whats that?
[21:56] <wilsonliam> the ~username?
[21:56] <lifeless> yes
[21:57] <wilsonliam> ~liamwilson93
[21:58] <lifeless> wilsonliam: interesting. What I see lookes like its not setup right.
[21:58] <lifeless> wilsonliam: I can't solve tis for you
[21:58] <lifeless> but
[22:01] <lifeless> I can file a question for you
[22:02] <wilsonliam> lifeless: If you could do that, it'd be great. Or should I just sign up with another email address?
[22:02] <lifeless> is there some contact address I can put in the question? Note that questions are public-access
[22:03] <wilsonliam> liamwilson93@gmail.com
[22:04] <mrjazzcat> hey lifeless.  thanks for the cover.  I looked away for a bit and you jumped on this.  thanks
[22:04] <lifeless> mrjazzcat: :P
[22:05] <lifeless> mrjazzcat: I does what I does
[22:05] <mrjazzcat> lifeless: it all good
[22:05] <lifeless> CHR can't see enough to tell whats wrong here
[22:05] <lifeless> I suspect LOSA will be needed
[22:05] <lifeless> wilsonliam: our sysadmins are all travelling today
[22:05] <mrjazzcat> lifeless, yes and filing a question is the best place to keep this
[22:05] <lifeless> wilsonliam: so you probably won't get helped till Monday australian time - sorry
[22:06] <wilsonliam> lifeless: That's fine, I can live without filing bugs for a while :P
[22:06] <lifeless> wilsonliam: if you were to make a new account with a different email address, as long as you don't make a PPA for it, we can merge them once a losa looks at ~liamwilson93
[22:07] <lifeless> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/102554
[22:08] <wilsonliam> lifeless: Well I'll do that then, thanks a lot. How will the two accounts be merged? Will I be notified of this?
[22:08] <lifeless> wilsonliam: put the new account ~thing on the question I just linked
[22:09] <lifeless> and say that you've done this and want to merge them eventually
[22:09] <wilsonliam> Alrighty, I'll do that. Thanks lifeless! :D
[22:09] <lifeless> de nada
[22:34] <Lord-Readman> hello, need help updating a package
[22:34] <Lord-Readman> on launchpad
[22:37] <Lord-Readman> hi
[22:38] <mrjazzcat> hi Lord-Readman
[22:39] <mrjazzcat> Lord-Readman: I'm not going to be able to do that for you, but I might be able to find someone who can
[22:39] <mrjazzcat> Lord-Readman: can you tell me exactly what you want to do?
[22:39] <Lord-Readman> ok one min while i type it out ...
[22:42] <Lord-Readman> xz-utils https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xz-utils the latest upload is 4.999.9 2009-11-16, I contacted the package maintainer, and he said he was unable to help as he is the debian maintainer, not the ubuntu one, (even tho thats what launchpad says) he said to checkout http://packages.debian.org/sid/xz-utils / http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xz-utils.html and http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xz-utils/ as you
[22:42] <Lord-Readman>  can see there is a 2010-02-13 (alot newer with minor fixes)
[22:42] <Lord-Readman> so I am wanting to update the package
[22:42] <Lord-Readman> to the newer version
[22:42] <Lord-Readman> i.e. upload those debian ones or whatever I need to do to help out
[22:42] <Lord-Readman> but I have never done anything like it before
[22:43] <lifeless> Lord-Readman: #ubuntu-motu is a better channel for this sort of thing
[22:43] <lifeless> Lord-Readman: part~icularly if you want to be changing the package in Ubuntu
[22:43] <Lord-Readman> am I on the right track? or should I just wait for someone else to do it?
[22:44] <lifeless> Lord-Readman: you should discuss it in #ubuntu-motu. Really :)
[22:44] <Lord-Readman> ok
[22:44] <Lord-Readman> many thanks
[23:55] <akgraner> hey all  - I have Ubuntu Media Relations listed in the as a member of the Ubuntu Women team in Launchpad, and I don't know how to delete it.  I am listed as an administer but not seeing where to do this at?  suggestions on where to look or what to do?
[23:56] <keithy> hi...
[23:57] <keithy> can anyone point me at a solution that handles multiple branches, i.e. trees so I can find out how it works
[23:57] <keithy> I am thinking that rather than expect to find a solution
[23:57] <keithy> I am providing a framework for making your own
[23:58] <keithy> bzr like thingy
[23:58] <keithy> I think thats what repo does for git
[23:58] <keithy> we could call it bzrs
[23:58] <wgrant> What do you mean by "handles multiple branches"?
[23:58] <keithy> or fete
[23:58] <keithy> sub-project support
[23:58] <wgrant> Like svn:externals?
[23:58] <lifeless> scmproj
[23:58] <lifeless> config-manager
[23:58] <keithy> yeah that kind of thing
[23:59] <keithy> my framework for making bzr like thingy is called grown
[23:59] <keithy> sorry
[23:59] <keithy> groan
[23:59] <keithy> because thats what I do whenever I write bash scripts
[23:59] <keithy> I had not head of scmproj
[23:59] <keithy> config-manager wouldnt install