[00:04] <zeroseven0183> Could somebody tag this report as WISHLIST https://bugs.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/527509 Thanks
[00:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 527509 in gwibber "[wishlist] Add URL shortening service: U.NU (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[00:32] <bdmurray> zeroseven0183: that bug doesn't have an Ubuntu bug task so it doesn't require a Bug Control member to set the importance
[01:05] <seb128> nekohayo, hi
[01:07] <nekohayo> seb128, yo, tried again with today's updates, no luck
[01:07] <nekohayo> (seems gst 0.10.26.3 came down the lucid crack pipes)
[01:07] <seb128> right
[01:08] <seb128> I was just trying
[01:08] <nekohayo> albeit I tested very quick
[01:08] <nekohayo> but nothing seemed to be detected
[01:15] <nekohayo> seb128, need I file a launchpad bug about the codec autodetection issues?
[01:15] <seb128> nekohayo, you can if you want but I'm looking at it
[01:16] <seb128> could be easier for tracking though
[01:17] <nekohayo> seb128, if I didn't give you the link already, I had filed this upstream https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=610449
[01:17] <ubot4> Gnome bug 610449 in gst-plugins-base "codec autodetection does not always work" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[01:17] <seb128> you did, I'm trying example there
[01:17]  * nekohayo reopens the bug saying nothing works still
[01:19] <seb128> nekohayo, ok, gotcha, it's not a gstreamer bug
[01:19] <nekohayo> it isn't?
[01:20] <nekohayo> le wtf? :)
[01:20] <seb128> the bug is due to bluez-gstreamer
[01:20] <seb128> uninstall it and they all work
[01:20] <nekohayo> .........wut!
[01:20] <seb128> we had issue due to it already before
[01:20] <seb128> it hijack other gstreamer things
[01:20] <nekohayo> ..... @_@
[01:21] <seb128> I fixed it before karmic
[01:22] <nekohayo> will you be able to append info to that bug report?
[01:23] <seb128> I will talk to upstream on IRC
[01:23] <seb128> I'm looking first to the lucid version
[01:23] <seb128> could be the karmic change dropped
[01:27] <seb128> nekohayo, right somebody dropped the change
[01:32] <nekohayo> confirming that bluez-gstreamer is the culprit
[01:32] <nekohayo> not for the pitivi-specific bugs though, but that's a pitivi problem surely
[01:33] <nekohayo> seb128, but why wasn't that sent upstream?
[01:33] <seb128> nekohayo, which one?
[01:33] <nekohayo> seb128, the bluez gstreamer thing, it wasn't sent upstream?
[01:34] <nekohayo> if instead you meant the pitivi-specific bug, it still applies: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=610325
[01:34] <ubot4> Gnome bug 610325 in source list "codec autodetection does not always work" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[01:35] <seb128> nekohayo, dunno about bluez
[01:35] <seb128> it seemed to have disagreement on IRC about whose fault it is
[01:35] <seb128> and I don't have an account on the bluez bug tracker
[01:36] <seb128> somebody who has a clue and want to argue should open it
[01:36]  * nekohayo has no clue :)
[01:36] <seb128> nekohayo, right the pitivi issue seems a pitivi bug
[01:36] <seb128> but well that's a good first step
[01:36] <seb128> gstreamer and totem work
[01:37] <nekohayo> yeah
[01:37]  * nekohayo wonders why pitivi would be any different than totem though
[01:37] <seb128> because there is a client side to codec install
[01:37] <seb128> it's not all automagic
[01:37] <seb128> the app has to use the apis correctly
[01:38] <seb128> they might not be using the same gstreamer element
[01:38] <seb128> or not in the same way
[02:13] <nigelb> hggdh: should I ask people to +1 me or just wait for it?
[02:20] <hggdh> nigelb: wait, pressure does not help...
[02:20] <nigelb> hggdh: :)
[02:21] <hggdh> nigelb: yeah... been there also ;-)
[02:21] <nigelb> hehe
[02:21]  * nigelb wanders to find another failed to build package
[03:09] <ddecator> hggdh, ping
[03:19] <Anzenketh> bug 125730  would not be a bug right?
[03:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 125730 in base-installer (Ubuntu) "vfat partition fscked on every boot (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125730
[03:19] <Anzenketh> Due to behavior on how ubuntu deals with NTFS partitions has changed by not automounting them on every boot?
[03:44] <Anzenketh> I think bug 131020 and 380784 should be combined but I want  a second opinion.
[03:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 131020 in apt (Ubuntu) "Apt-get will install a package when does not have enough space. (dup-of: 126774)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131020
[03:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 126774 in apt (Ubuntu) "package update proceeds without adequate disk space (affects: 1) (dups: 2)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126774
[03:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 380784 in dell-mini "4GB version of Dell Mini 9 runs out of space with updates (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/380784
[04:17] <Anzenketh> request the new branch of 312491 to be wishlisted possibly reopen bug due to sujestion in my last comment.
[04:17] <Anzenketh> So self serving arn't I
[04:25] <ddecator> Anzenketh, the first two bugs are already marked as dupes of a master bug, and the third seems to be for dells specifically, and a fix has been committed
[04:25] <Anzenketh> Ya I just combined all the apt-get running out of space bugs
[04:26] <Anzenketh> Well what ones were straggling
[04:26] <ddecator> oooh, you did that, haha, let me look at them more then...
[04:26] <Anzenketh> And added a prepose plan to deal with the issue better.
[04:26] <Anzenketh> Master bug is now 312491
[04:34] <ddecator> i'm not sure the dell one is the same since it was determined to affect specific dell models, but the other two do seem related. although i'm curious why you marked synaptic as confirmed?
[04:34] <Anzenketh> um get attention
[04:35] <Anzenketh> That and it also affects that program too.
[04:35] <Anzenketh> The issue is in linux low disk space is not handled well
[04:35] <ddecator> yes, which was determined to be a problem with apt, but did you test and confirm that synaptic also does the same?
[04:37] <micahg> ddecator: synaptic uses apt on the backend
[04:37] <ddecator> micahg, ah, thanks, i was just going to look that up, i couldn't remember if it did or not
[04:37] <thekorn> good morning bugsquad!
[04:38] <micahg> thekorn: morning already?
[04:38] <ddecator> mornin' thekorn
[04:38] <thekorn> hi micahg and ddecator
[04:38] <thekorn> micahg, yeah, have to get an early train today
[04:42] <Damascene> is there any know bug of lucid auto login takes you into black screen with only the mouse there and you need to switch to terminal then to X for you to see you desktop?
[04:42] <Damascene> Hello, first
[04:45] <Anzenketh> I have seen one like that somewhere.
[04:46] <Anzenketh> Can't remember where though
[04:47] <ddecator> Damascene, it does sound familiar...
[04:49] <ddecator> i'm trying to find if there is one but my internet just decided to freak out on me...
[04:50] <Damascene> same here
[04:51] <ddecator> hm, i'm seeing stuff about graphics issues, but nothing like yours
[04:54] <ddecator> Damascene, does it work like bug 523788?
[04:54] <ddecator> ...bug 523788
[04:54] <ddecator> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/523788
[04:54] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 523788 in plymouth (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "Only see X mouse cursor on VT during boot (affects: 4) (dups: 1)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/523788
[04:54] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 523788 in plymouth (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "Only see X mouse cursor on VT during boot (affects: 4) (dups: 1)" [High,Confirmed]
[04:54] <ddecator> there's ubot!
[04:57] <damascene> so did you found the familiar bug report to my problem
[04:58] <ddecator> from the very brief description you gave, it could be related, but i can't tell for sure without seeing your comp. does the behavior you're having match that of the report?
[05:00] <damascene> which report, i've reconnected because of internet problem
[05:00] <damascene> I didn't see it
[05:00] <ddecator> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/523788
[05:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 523788 in plymouth (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "Only see X mouse cursor on VT during boot (affects: 4) (dups: 1)" [High,Confirmed]
[05:01] <damascene> bug 447730
[05:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 447730 in eee-applet (Ubuntu) "eee-applet doesn't work at all on EEE 1000 (affects: 3)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/447730
[05:01] <damascene> may I ask how did the man get the folder non exist message
[05:01] <damascene> I want to reproduce
[05:02] <ddecator> ...so we're not looking for a report dealing with booting into a black screen on lucid anymore?
[05:08] <damascene> ddecator, that is another bug, the first one is the same with me but there was too much technical detail that confused me in it
[05:09] <ddecator> damascene, ok, i was just wondering why we were suddenly looking at a diff bug
[05:09] <ddecator> haha
[05:09] <damascene> sorry didn't inform you
[05:11] <damascene> can you help me with it. please
[05:11] <ddecator> so you're on an eee pc?
[05:11] <damascene> yes
[05:11] <ddecator> karmic?
[05:11] <damascene> no Lucid
[05:12] <ddecator> looks like it's still the same version...so you installed it, yes?
[05:12] <damascene> yes
[05:12] <ddecator> is it working for you alright?
[05:13] <damascene> no not working at all
[05:13] <ddecator> but no error messages?
[05:13] <damascene> nothing change what ever you choice
[05:14] <ddecator> it looks like the reporter ran it from the terminal, so the error messages were probably displayed in the terminal
[05:14] <damascene> I did tail -f /var/log/messages but no error shown as disecribed in the bug report , like "sh: cannot create /proc/eee/fan_manual: Directory nonexistent"
[05:14] <damascene> ok I'll try
[05:15] <damascene> that is it
[05:15] <ddecator> there you go
[05:16] <ddecator> i'm starting to wonder if the reporter of this bug i'm working on is even using ubuntu...
[05:16] <damascene> which one :)
[05:17] <ddecator> bug 526966
[05:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 526966 in ubufox (Ubuntu) "Firefox start page not into English? (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526966
[05:18] <ddecator> micahg, it's kinda firefox related. any suggestions?
[05:18] <ddecator> well it is ff related...
[05:18]  * micahg is looking
[05:18] <ddecator> can't find "System" and the start page is the firefox default instead of the ubuntu default, so i'm confused
[05:19] <micahg> ddecator: just moved to firefox and collected it
[05:19] <damascene> that really looks confusing
[05:19] <ddecator> micahg, thanks, i'm at a loss
[05:20] <micahg> yep, also guy seems to be new to Ubuntu
[05:20]  * micahg wonders if apport-collect will be too hard
[05:20]  * ddecator wasn't sure which firefox package to have apport collect from since he can't give us a version number of anything
[05:20] <micahg> ddecator: well, I tried firefox since the user said 3.6
[05:21] <damascene> is there any way I can find a bug related to eee laptop only and help reproducing it on mine, other than searching fro Eee
[05:21] <damascene> *for
[05:26] <micahg> damascene: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_cve.used=&field.affects_me.used=&field.tag=eeepc&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_no_package.us
[05:28] <damascene> bug 523788
[05:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 523788 in plymouth (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "Only see X mouse cursor on VT during boot (affects: 5) (dups: 1)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/523788
[05:28] <damascene> I'm not sure that the mouse is in VT
[05:29] <damascene> because you what ever you type it only appear as hashes
[05:34] <damascene> is there any way to change my comment on a bug?
[05:34] <damascene> thanks micahg
[05:34] <micahg> damascene: no
[05:37] <damascene> can bug squad change it?
[05:37] <Anzenketh> nope
[05:37] <Anzenketh> I can't even change my own
[05:38] <Anzenketh> Wish I could have multiple times but I see the reason why it does not support it
[06:06] <damascene> sorry ,disconnected
[06:07] <damascene> what is the differences between https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HotkeyResearch and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hotkeys/Troubleshooting
[06:24] <kermiac_> anyone seen a mailto link to a hotmail address as an upstream dug report before? bug 243722
[06:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 243722 in amsn (Ubuntu Hardy) (and 5 other projects) "amsn 0.97: login doesn't work anymore due to a protocol change (affects: 2) (dups: 4)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/243722
[06:24] <kermiac> seems very stange & not right
[06:25] <kermiac> s/dug/bug
[06:25] <ddecator> first i've seen
[06:25] <Anzenketh> Well i will not be able to do that papercut
[06:25] <kermiac> hey ddecator :) yeah me too
[06:26] <ddecator> hey kermiac , finally got my internet to work, haha
[06:26] <kermiac> haha - very good mate, you weren't bitten by the network-manager trunk ppa bug were you?
[06:26] <kermiac> it got me last night, but managed to get around it with a static ip
[06:27] <ddecator> kermiac, nope, school internet crapped out on me...the solution was to play some rockband
[06:27] <kermiac> haha... that's a good solution ;)
[06:27] <ddecator> it's a workaround i'm proud of
[06:29] <ddecator> i still need to download the alpha 3 .iso...
[06:29] <Anzenketh> kermiac: that is a fixed bug
[06:30] <kermiac> ddecator: i grabbed it at work earlier & showed the boss.... he wanted it on his main pc, but i told him to hold off until at least beta1
[06:30] <ddecator> Anzenketh, yes, it's just odd that the upstream assignee is a hotmail email address...
[06:30] <Anzenketh> I don't think so that is the developers email.
[06:30] <ddecator> kermiac, very nice
[06:31] <ddecator> Anzenketh, normally it's a link to an upstream bug report instead of an email
[06:31] <kermiac> Anzenketh: yeah, the bug was marked aas "fix released" 2009-10-30 10:36:18, but the supposed "upstream" task was added today
[06:31] <kermiac> looks like upstream for amsn is sourceforge, but I'm still investigating the issue
[06:31] <ddecator> it was added today?
[06:31] <kermiac> yup
[06:31] <kermiac> by someone who signed up to LP today
[06:31] <ddecator> even more interesting...
[06:31] <ddecator> (hopefully not another spammer)
[06:32] <kermiac> no, i dont think so
[06:32] <kermiac> seems like the user is just confused
[06:32] <ddecator> hopefully
[06:32]  * ddecator looks further
[06:32]  * kermiac tries to keep an open mind
[06:33] <ddecator> good policy
[06:34] <ddecator> well i'm not sure what to think
[06:34] <ddecator> in this case i mean
[06:34] <ddecator> it's hard to tell what they were trying to do...
[06:36] <Anzenketh> It could be a spammer but it could not.
[06:37] <Anzenketh> Could be a developer
[06:40] <kermiac> yeah, I am not too familiar with amsn, so I'm not sure if it's a dev, that's why I haven't touched it yet. seems strange that a dev would choose a hotmail email address though. I'm still looking through the amsn sourceforge site
[06:40] <ddecator> yah, it seems like they would have a more "professional" lp account setup
[06:40] <ddecator> instead of just a hotmail address and nothing else
[06:46] <kermiac> amsn upstream bug tracker appears to be http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=54091
[06:48] <Anzenketh> I duno then
[06:50] <ddecator> i'm trying to look at it but i'm working on installing alpha 3 in vbox so my system is really slow right now...
[06:53] <kermiac> nvm, I invalidated it as I found some other amsn bugs that were upstreamed to the SF bug tracker
[06:53] <ddecator> there you go
[07:13] <Anzenketh> ddecator: that is why I moved my vm to my other computer
[07:14] <ddecator> Anzenketh, i would use another computer for testing if i had one, haha, but it was only really slow because it was creating the virtual hdd, it's usually not too bad
[07:15]  * Anzenketh needs more memory for testing
[07:17] <ddecator> hey om26er
[07:17] <om26er> ddecator, hey
[08:36] <AtomicSpark> Why does my bug report sometimes start out as being marked private after using ubuntu-bug?
[08:45] <thekorn_> AtomicSpark, some bugreports can contain private data, like password, or filenames in your home directory
[08:45] <thekorn_> this bugreports have to be checked by tiragers before opening to the wide public
[08:46] <thekorn_> this is why bugreport which contain a coredump or stacktrace or always private by default
[08:47] <thekorn_> but if it is you bugreport, and you think that (after checking) none of the attached files and the description does not contain private data, you can un-flag this report as private
[08:47] <thekorn_> s/you/your
[08:47] <bibinou> Hi
[09:01] <AtomicSpark> thekorn_: makes sense. i'll look into it.
[09:22] <Anzenketh> Not a clue what to do with bug 80399
[09:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 80399 in sendmail (Ubuntu) "sendmail configuration makefile fails (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80399
[09:24] <maxb> erm, seems like a nice clear bug with a given reproduction recipe to me
[10:11] <nigelb> does bug 425304 warrant to be marked as "Won't Fix"? Upstream reports that it is the default behavior of GNOME apps
[10:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 425304 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Rhythmbox's volume control requires you to click it to bring up the slider (affects: 2)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/425304
[10:50] <Damascene> does what appear in this bug a VT, bug 523788
[10:50] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 523788 in plymouth (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "Only see X mouse cursor on VT during boot (affects: 5) (dups: 1)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/523788
[10:56] <Damascene> bug 524860
[10:56] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 524860 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "starts eating cpu when trying to unlock screen (affects: 16) (dups: 3)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/524860
[10:57] <Damascene> I wonder what does this have to do with keyring. killing the gnome screen saver fix it
[10:58] <seb128> Damascene, no it doesn't?
[10:58] <seb128> Damascene, g-k-d still eats cpu
[11:00] <Damascene> bug 435928
[11:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 435928 in gnome-screensaver (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Password works in virtual terminal but not in Gnome screensaver (affects: 1)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/435928
[11:00] <Damascene> seb128, so you think the title is confusing?
[11:03] <seb128> Damascene, ?
[11:04] <Damascene> I think both bugs talking about the same thing and the gnome-keyring have nothing to do with any, is that right?
[11:04] <seb128> which 1 bugs
[11:05] <seb128> the gnome-keyring one you listed is a gnome-keyring issue
[11:05] <seb128> new from 2.29
[11:05] <seb128> the gnome-screensaver I've no clue about
[11:05] <seb128> the first one is a plymouth bug indeed
[11:05] <seb128> nigelb, yes
[11:06] <seb128> nigelb, upstream design
[11:06] <nigelb> seb128: whoa, you must be telepathic.  I was just about to ask you again
[11:06] <nigelb> seb128: can you mark as "Won't Fixed"  I'm not bug control (yet!)
[11:06] <seb128> nigelb, I will close it yes
[11:07] <nigelb> thank you
[11:07] <seb128> np
[11:07] <Damascene> what are you talking about?
[11:08] <nigelb> Damascene: something I posted before you joined
[11:08] <Damascene> I see
[11:14] <Damascene> any way I added me opinion to the newest report
[11:21] <seb128> Damascene, you are wrong
[11:21] <seb128> Damascene, it's not the same bug
[11:22] <Damascene> may I ask you why?
[11:22] <Damascene> I'm not claiming that the are the exact same but there is some relation
[11:23] <Damascene> killing gnome-screensaver fix the issue for both
[11:24] <Damascene> any it doesn't matter if it's the same or not. I hope it gets fixed any way. just had to do what ever I can to help from my point of view if that makes sense  blah blah blah
[11:25] <Damascene> *get
[11:27] <seb128> Damascene, because the gnome-keyring bug is clearly gnome-keyring-daemon going to a cpu busy loop and blocking gnome-screensaver
[11:27] <seb128> and this issue is new since 2.29
[11:28] <Damascene> so the 435928 is wrong or it was really a problem with the screen saver thing?
[11:28] <Damascene> I mean back then
[11:31] <seb128> Damascene, no, that bug is old and before the keyring issue
[11:32] <seb128> Damascene, you know there might be over 1 bug in gnome-screensaver
[11:32] <seb128> they just are different bugs, I don't know what 435928 is
[11:32] <seb128> but the other one is an issue when pam tries to unlock the keyring with your password
[11:32] <seb128> which leads to gnome-screensaver not getting the pam credential
[11:33] <Damascene> I'm having this issue on Lucid and the bug description of both apply to me. which one should I chose?
[11:33] <seb128> look if gnome-keyring-daemon eats your cpu
[11:33] <seb128> if that's the case you get the new one
[11:34] <Damascene> ok
[11:35] <Damascene> it's eating
[11:37] <Damascene> if I commented on a bug should I get subsucibed to it automatically. I thought so before I saw e-mail me with changes unchecked be default today
[11:37] <Damascene> *subscribed
[11:48] <Damascene> is there any way to calm down the keyring thing?
[11:49] <thekorn> Damascene, no, you are not subscribed by default
[12:07] <gnomefreak> is everyone getting all bug mail that you should be getting? i dont think im getting all of them ~20 now where it was >=80. i checked on gmail from web and it is the same as thunderbird
[12:07] <gnomefreak> ~20 and >=80 is in 24 hours
[12:08] <rww> I haven't noticed anything missing from my (relatively tiny) subscriptions.
[12:08] <nigelb> nothing missing here either
[12:09] <rww> I think gmail's been dropping lists.ubuntu.com mail, though. Something silly might be going on with Ubuntu/Canonical servers (or I might be doing something wrong).
[12:09] <nigelb> I still get the 100+ mails every day
[12:09] <gnomefreak> rww: those im still getting but they are in a different box
[12:09] <nigelb> gnomefreak: what package are you missing mails?
[12:11] <gnomefreak> nigelb: most bug mail. that is my main bug mail box and i should be getting ALL bug mail for Mozilla packages in Ubuntu
[12:11] <nigelb> gnomefreak: did you cross check with other mozilla guys if you're really dropping or bug mails are lesser?
[12:12] <gnomefreak> nigelb: they are getting all. im getting all my upstream bugs/mails since they are in another box.
[12:13] <nigelb> gnomefreak: that certainly sounds strange
[12:13] <gnomefreak> agreed :(
[12:13] <nigelb> I did have issues when gmail marked a few mails as spam
[12:15] <Damascene> I want to file a bug against clear-look theme. should I run ubuntu-bug and if yes. against which package
[12:16] <rww> Damascene: yes, gnome-themes
[12:28] <Damascene> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-themes/+bug/528407
[12:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 528407 in gnome-themes (Ubuntu) "battery icon on clearlooks theme is broken (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[12:30] <Damascene> rww, it says in the report that gnome-themes isn't installed
[12:31] <rww> Damascene: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Customize -> Icons. Which icon theme are you using?
[12:34] <Damascene> clearlooks
[13:04] <vish> Damascene: the icon fallbacks are not working  , there is a bug for that already ,yours is a dup of an app-indicator bug
[13:04] <vish> not a theme bug
[13:04] <Damascene> some one said so. but my bug only appears on clearlooks
[13:04] <Damascene> have tried many other themes, no problem
[13:05] <vish> Damascene: your on lucid right?
[13:05] <Damascene> right
[13:05] <vish> Damascene: not a theme bug ;)  the gpm fallbacks have to work even if the icon is not in the theme.. search for bugs in app-indicator
[13:06] <Damascene> you mean this
[13:06] <Damascene> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/525295
[13:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 525295 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Lucid volume icons are not shown. Displays the "unknown icon" instead (affects: 9) (dups: 3)" [Low,Confirmed]
[13:06] <vish> Damascene:  yup
[13:07] <Damascene> how to make sure that it's the same?
[13:10] <Damascene> vish, I don't have sound icon at all
[13:10] <vish> Damascene: hmm???
[13:11] <vish> Damascene:  app-indicator needs to fix it , the package is probably the gpm or app-indicator..
[13:12] <Damascene> really I don't remember when I saw it last time. may be never. but this broken Icon is surly the battery that it has no problem with any other theme
[13:12] <vish> Damascene: does it display icon in gnome-icon theme?
[13:14] <Damascene> in costmize there is gnome and humanity with others. gnome is the default and humanity displays the icon in the right way
[13:15] <vish> Damascene: does it display with gnome?
[13:15] <Damascene> no
[13:15] <Damascene> not with gnome in the icon tab
[13:15] <vish> Damascene: yes ,that is the problem ;)  the icon is present in gnome but is not used
[13:15] <vish> the naming fallback is not used
[13:16] <vish> seb128: is  bug 528407 a gpm bug or app-indicator bug?
[13:16] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 528407 in gnome-themes (Ubuntu) "battery icon on clearlooks theme is broken (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528407
[13:17] <Damascene> I don't believe I'm spending my time on theme problem. can some one with lucid just check if he has the same with the clearlooks theme
[13:17] <vish> similar to the volume icon , no fallbacks working it seems^
[13:17] <Damascene> ooh my god
[13:18] <vish> Damascene: problem in lucid for me too
[13:18] <Damascene> ok good. I've done with it
[13:19] <seb128> vish, dunno I would need to check the code but busy with other things right now
[13:19] <seb128> jcastro, ^ can you get somebody to look at that bug?
[13:19] <vish> seb128: np.. none of the fallbacks are working :( , transmission/volume/gpm
[13:19] <seb128> what do you call fallbacks?
[13:20] <vish> the applet only uses the   -panel named icons
[13:20] <seb128> ok, so it's likely an appindicator bug
[13:20] <seb128> no need to ":("
[13:20] <vish> ;)
[13:20] <seb128> we still have 2 months of bug fixing
[13:20] <seb128> we just start on that
[13:21] <jcastro> seb128: how do I determine if it's a theme bug or an app-indicator bug?
[13:21] <vish> ah , right forgot we are on LTS ;)  seems more relaxed
[13:21] <seb128> jcastro, forget about that
[13:21] <jcastro> ok
[13:21] <seb128> jcastro, seems that's appindicator fallback not working, so a ted thing
[13:22] <seb128> I will bug him when he's online
[13:22] <jcastro> ok
[13:22] <seb128> jcastro, hey btw ;-)
[13:22] <jcastro> good morning. :D
[13:22] <seb128> how are you?
[13:22] <vish> seb128: thanks :)
[13:44] <Damascene> is there any thing you know about sound applet is missing from the UNE
[13:46] <thekorn> Damascene, in lucid?
[13:46] <Damascene> yes
[13:46] <thekorn> Damascene, I cannot confirm this, I did a fresh install this morning, it's there
[13:46] <thekorn> hey qense
[13:47] <Damascene> maybe some update broke it
[13:48] <Damascene> are you using netbook-launcher?
[13:48] <qense> hi thekorn
[13:48] <thekorn> Damascene, yes, netbook-launcher
[13:49] <Damascene> what is the name of the applet thekorn
[13:50] <nigelb> persia: Do you mind if I PM?
[13:50] <Damascene> I might be able to launch it manually
[13:52] <persia> nigelb: Never, although I may ignore you if I'm busy (or get back to you later), and I'll point you to a channel if I'd rather address whatever is being discussed in public (either for the benefit of others or to keep a record)
[14:35] <nigelb> hggdh: you around?
[15:19] <hggdh> nigelb: yes
[15:21] <thekorn_> hey hggdh
[15:21] <thekorn_> hggdh, can you please renew my bugsquad membership?
[15:22] <hggdh> thekorn_: my pleasure
[15:23] <thekorn_> hggdh, thank you!
[15:23] <hggdh> thekorn_: should be done (your LP id *is* thekorn, right?)
[15:23] <thekorn_> hggdh, yes correct
[16:39] <bdmurray> bug 178038
[16:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 178038 in nspluginwrapper (Ubuntu) "npviewer.bin crashed with SIGSEGV (affects: 2026) (dups: 11)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178038
[16:40] <bdmurray> Could we get ubot to report the bug heat instead of affects and dups?
[16:41] <micahg> bdmurray: can it do both?
[16:42] <bdmurray> I'd imagine but why? heat includes affects and dups
[16:42] <micahg> bdmurray: yes, but only in a relative fashion
[17:22] <chrisccoulson> would anyone be interested in arranging a bug day for gnome-power-manager?
[17:32] <antihacker> anyone know what axel.dav is?
[18:13] <mahfouz> the "about me" in gnome menu "preferences" does not remember settings
[18:13] <mahfouz> in lucid
[18:13] <mahfouz> shld I file a bug?
[18:13] <mahfouz> which package?
[18:17] <qense> hello everyone
[18:19] <bdmurray> mahfouz: whatever provides gnome-about-me
[18:19] <mahfouz> is it evolution?
[18:19] <mahfouz> I really don't know
[18:19] <bdmurray> no, you could check with dpkg -S $(which gnome-about-me)
[18:20] <bdmurray> gnome-control-center
[18:20] <mahfouz> ah ok
[18:21] <bdmurray> so ubuntu-bug gnome-control-center
[18:21] <bdmurray> or look to see if it's already been reported ;-)
[18:21] <mahfouz> ok thx
[18:24] <benje> hello do you know where can i reactive repoort for a program ?
[18:24] <benje> nothing about it in ubuntu wiki page about apport
[18:25] <hggdh> benje: what do you mean by 'reactive report for a program"?
[18:26] <benje> i tell to not report anymore bug about one program but bug repport failed
[18:27] <benje> re -hurry up
[18:27] <benje> hggdh: re hurry up apport for program
[18:28] <hggdh> benje: the blacklist for apport is located under /etc/apport/blacklist.d
[18:28] <benje> ok thanks hggdh
[18:30] <benje> hggdh: :/ i don't see jackd in but the repport about it failed
[18:31] <benje> and i tell to not report it again
[18:31] <hggdh> benje: look at /var/crash -- you should see a file with the programme name there
[18:32] <benje> yes there is one
[18:32] <benje> hggdh: yes i see it , do i need to remove them ?
[18:33] <hggdh> try renaming it, and reproducing the failure.
[18:33] <benje> ok hggd
[18:33] <benje> h
[18:36] <benje> hggdh: i do it, jack crash again but no apport message
[18:37] <hggdh> benje: are you running Gnome?
[18:38] <benje> hggdh: yes
[18:39] <benje> hggdh: no .crash too
[18:39] <hggdh> run, from a command line, '/usr/share/apport/apport-gtk -c <crash file name>
[18:39] <hggdh> replace <crash file name> by the full name of the original crash
[18:39] <benje> i will use old i move
[18:40] <hggdh> yes
[18:40] <benje> hggdh: i have an other file abour lib sound ... do i have to made it with this one too or it will be merge ?
[18:41] <hggdh> benje: you mean you have another bug to report?
[18:41] <hggdh> if so, yes, you can report it as with this one (if not reported before)
[18:42] <benje> yes it  was an old repport when i trying to made both same card working
[18:42] <benje> ok
[18:43] <SoftwareExplorer> I have a problem with the Sound Preferences window in Lucid. What package should I file it under?
[18:45] <benje> hggdh: tell me that repport cannot be reported because the program crash on an assertion failure . but message could not be retreived apport cannot repoort these crash
[18:46] <benje> hggdh: it tell
[18:47] <hggdh> SoftwareExplorer: this should be gnome-media (owner of gnome-volume-control
[18:47] <hggdh> benje: then this is it
[18:48] <SoftwareExplorer> hggdh: Thanks.
[18:49] <benje> hggdh: do i have to do a manual repport ?
[18:51] <hggdh> benje: if we cannot get the error -- in this case, an assertion failure -- it will not help any
[18:52] <benje> hggdh: even i start jack with trace ?
[18:53] <hggdh> benje: I understood you already reported the jack failure
[18:55] <benje> with talking here you mean ?
[18:55] <hggdh> yes
[18:56] <benje> hggdh: ok ;),  i have an other bug in lucid but it's about kernel driver of ice1712 that it complain about cs8427 signature
[18:58] <benje> hggdh: i use two same card ewx24/96. sometimes one card is see somtimes none and sometimes both ( rarelly )
[18:58] <hggdh> benje: this would be a bug on the linuc package
[19:03] <benje> hggdh: not really shure, more about kernel driver , don't if it's an ubuntu specific problem i paste dmesg lspci -vvvvv and alsa-base.conf at http://paste.ubuntu.com/384271
[19:05] <hggdh> benje: still a linux issue
[19:06] <benje> hggdh: in this post ( dmesg ) no card was see but sometimes one or both
[19:06] <benje> yes
[19:07] <plars> anyone here good with audio? I have an unusual problem
[19:08] <benje> hggdh: do i have to go to kernel bug channel ? i try the option cs8427_timeout of module but it's not better
[19:08] <hggdh> benje: just open a bug against linux, and explain what happens: ubuntu-bug linux
[19:09] <benje> ok hggdh thanks
[19:11] <benje> have nices days
[19:12] <hggdh> benje: welcome, and thanks for helping
[19:19] <benje> hggdh: when it talk about upstream, it's previous version or original(not ubuntu specific) kernel ?
[19:25] <hggdh> benje: I do not follow you here. What upstream are you talking about?
[19:27] <SoftwareExplorer> To reproduce a bug, I need to reset empathy's config. How do I do this?
[19:31] <benje> hggdh: i found it it's the linux tree ;) ( upstream kernel )
[19:31] <benje> hggdh: i try with it to see as it's tell in doc
[19:32] <benje> SoftwareExplorer in your home directory you have user config of program
[19:36] <benje> softwareEXplorer in .config
[19:49] <benje> SoftwareExplorer: in .config of your home directory
[19:49] <SoftwareExplorer> I have a bug in lucid about the wrong keymap being set if I change to a tty (is that the correct term if I do Ctrl Alt F1?). What package should I file the bug against
[19:49] <SoftwareExplorer> benje: Sorry I was having problems and switched to a different computer.
[19:50] <SoftwareExplorer> benje: So were you saying to delete the Empathy folder in .config? Because I tried that and it didn't seem to clear out the accounts in Empathy.
[19:55] <SoftwareExplorer> Could someone reply to this just to make sure I can see what people are saying? (Haven't seen any replys other than when benje said in .config or your home directory, so I'm wondering if I'm having problems connecting?)
[19:58] <hggdh> SoftwareExplorer: there is also gconf data for Empathy
[19:59] <hggdh> SoftwareExplorer: run Applications/System Tools/Configuration Editor to find them
[19:59] <hggdh> under /apps/Empathy
[20:00] <SoftwareExplorer> hggdh: OK. Thank you.
[21:54] <BUGabundo> boas noites
[21:55] <hggdh> boas, BUGabundo
[21:55] <BUGabundo> ola Carloste
[22:06] <Anzenketh> Need Assitance with triaging bug 406837
[22:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 406837 in linux (Ubuntu) "options module crashes, thus cannot suspend my vaio vgn-tz190n (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/406837
[22:08] <Anzenketh> Should bug 321041 be treaged so it does not show up in our reports.
[22:08] <ubot4> Anzenketh: Bug 321041 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/321041 is private
[22:20] <SoftwareExplorer> I already asked this once and either didn't get the answer or didn't see it because of connection problems. The tty I get by doing Ctrl Alt F1 has the wrong keymap. What package should I file the bug against? Ubiquity (for not setting that)? Or something else?
[22:21] <yofel> Anzenketh: what about bug 321041? Isn't that fixed?
[22:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 321041 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with signal 5 in xkl_process_error() (affects: 174) (dups: 54)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/321041
[22:21] <Anzenketh> I think so should disattach the upstream and close it?
[22:23] <micahg> Anzenketh: no, upstream is still open
[22:23] <yofel> hm, posting a comment on the upstream bug that this is fixed and the bug can be closed would be better IMHO
[22:23] <Anzenketh> OK will do that.
[22:24] <micahg> Anzenketh: be sure to post what version it's fixed in
[22:26] <Anzenketh> cccccccbighridhnjjtgjufifjdibfijldrcjhuifeeg
[22:26] <Anzenketh> Stilly OTP yubikeyt
[22:35] <charlie-tca> SoftwareExplorer: those keymaps should be set by console-setup
[22:36] <charlie-tca> Which would be the package
[22:39] <bdmurray> Anzenketh: there is no need to change bug 528161 to in progress, the upstream watch being in progress is sufficient
[22:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 528161 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Intel wifi cards fail temperature-dependently (affects: 1)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528161
[22:40] <Anzenketh> Ok so how do we get it off the untriaged report?
[22:40] <bdmurray> Which report is this?
[22:40] <Anzenketh> Not really a report more a search
[22:41] <Anzenketh> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-datecreated&field.status%3Alist=New&field.importance%3Alist=Undecided&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.component=1&field.component=2&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_no_package.used=&search=Search
[22:41] <bdmurray> well you had it at confimred which would remove it from that search ;-)
[22:41] <Anzenketh> Oh ya
[22:41] <Anzenketh> I did didn't I
[22:42] <Anzenketh> However that is a general question that I really did not get answered. If I feel a bug has enough information ready for a developer to look at bug it is not a "confirmed" bug how do I get it off the untriaged report.
[22:43] <Anzenketh> Or search.
[22:43] <bdmurray> Ask someone to set it to triaged for you
[22:44] <Anzenketh> OK
[22:44] <bdmurray> Its also possible to confirm bugs that you haven't recreated if they are hardware specific or you've seen the error in the code
[22:44] <bdmurray> like with a string-fix bug or something
[22:44] <Anzenketh> Oh ok.
[22:44] <Anzenketh> That answers that question.
[22:45] <bdmurray> great!
[22:47] <Anzenketh> Speeking of bugs needing to be treaged. I think I have givin bug 80399 it's due diligance and it is ready to be marked as such
[22:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 80399 in sendmail (Ubuntu) "sendmail configuration makefile fails (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80399
[22:49] <bdmurray> hggdh: still around -^
[22:50] <hggdh> looking
[22:59] <Anzenketh> How up to date is the checklist kept. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Checklist becouse I am going to start using it on every bug I touch now.
[23:02] <charlie-tca> looks mostly up to date,
[23:06] <Anzenketh> bug 528676 is obtaining packages not in the ubuntu repository correct?
[23:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 528676 in apt (Ubuntu) "cannot update, now 25 days since update (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528676
[23:09] <bdmurray> well the real problem is that domain
[23:10] <bdmurray> but yes not an ubuntu bug
[23:10] <jpds> Anzenketh: Nope, not our fault.
[23:10] <bdmurray> I'd bet there are some dupicates somewhere
[23:11] <Anzenketh> Thought Invalid it goes.
[23:11] <jpds> Anzenketh: All Ubuntu mirrors are checked by Launchpad by the mirror prober.
[23:11] <chrisccoulson> thats not an ubuntu mirror though is it?
[23:11] <chrisccoulson> it's a medibuntu mirror
[23:12] <jpds> Yep.
[23:13] <chrisccoulson> i normally convert those in to a support request
[23:13] <bdmurray> chrisccoulson: why what would happen from there?
[23:13] <mr_pouit> (moreover this dns domain is disabled since gutsy)
[23:17] <jibel> Anzenketh, the reporters says he cannot update since 25 days. The warning is unrelated with his real problem.
[23:17] <jibel> s/reporters/reporter/
[23:18] <Anzenketh> I am confused on that.
[23:18] <Anzenketh> I thought the bug happened due to it could not find the packages.
[23:20] <Anzenketh> His real issue is he is not keeping his sources.list updated
[23:21] <Anzenketh> jibel: At least that is what I got
[23:23] <bdmurray> then why did you mention not using Ubuntu software?
[23:23] <bdmurray> He is likely using an Ubuntu version of apt just has some goofy sources
[23:23] <Anzenketh> I was confirming my suspision that it was a invlaid bug due to it is not pulling from ubuntu repos.
[23:24] <hggdh> actually, I am setting bug 80399 as incomplete
[23:24] <bdmurray> I mean in the bug your response is a bit off
[23:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 80399 in sendmail (Ubuntu) "sendmail configuration makefile fails (affects: 1)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80399
[23:26] <Anzenketh> Oh ok. Ya I relized that and updated it.
[23:29] <jibel> he doesn't say what he cannot update ? if it's package from the failing mirror then it's invalid.
[23:29] <jibel> But if the mirror dns is disabled since gutsy and he cannot update since 25 days only then it's maybe something else.
[23:29] <jibel> I agree with chrisccoulson this user need support.
[23:30] <jibel> if you only close as invalid you'll leave him alone without any chance to recover from his mistake (presumably).
[23:30] <jibel> I would redirect him to a support channel or the answer tracker.
[23:31] <Anzenketh> you make a good point jibel
[23:32] <Anzenketh> Can somone translate bug 528751
[23:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 528751 in clamav (Ubuntu) "package clamav 0.95.3+dfsg-1ubuntu0.09.10 failed to install/upgrade: vereistenproblemen - blijft ongeconfigureerd (affects: 1) (dups: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528751
[23:35] <jibel> Anzenketh, no need for translation the error is "invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/clamav-freshclam not found." when configuring clamav-freshclam
[23:37] <jibel> Anzenketh, update the title accordingly
[23:37] <Anzenketh> Working on it.
[23:38] <jibel> something like : "clamav-freshclam 0.95.3+dfsg-1ubuntu0.09.10 failed to install : exit status 100 -  /etc/init.d/clamav-freshclam not found"
[23:41] <jibel> Anzenketh, he probably removed a conffile manually or installed a conflicting package by hand.
[23:41] <jibel> Anzenketh, a purge/reinstall cycle would probably clear this error and it's likely not a bug with the package.
[23:42] <Anzenketh> purge/reinstall?
[23:43] <jibel> dpkg --purge clamav-freshclam; apt-get install clamav-freshclam
[23:44] <Anzenketh> It is amazing how many pepole do not read the launchpad bug report page.
[23:45] <jibel> Anzenketh, same issue in bug 382265
[23:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 382265 in clamav (Ubuntu) "dpkg: error processing clamav (--configure) (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/382265
[23:45] <Anzenketh> Ya I figured it was a duplicate.
[23:46] <Anzenketh> That was going to be my next question.
[23:46] <SoftwareExplorer> charlie-tca: Thanks. :)
[23:46] <charlie-tca> You are welcome