SEJeffpochu, ping00:16
SEJeffI'm interested in getting the latest (just released) libproxy into Lucid.00:33
SEJeffPer upstream, it fixes a lot of bugs, is much faster, and has all around more cowbell00:34
SEJeffIt also split off some internal stuff into another small library, libmodman.00:34
SEJeffpochu, Do you think this is feasable if I setup a ppa and nothing breaks?00:34
SEJeffIt is API/ABI compat. Per upstream just now, libmodman hasn't been fully pulled out so it can remain in the same package.00:36
seb128baptistemm, grrrr01:27
seb128baptistemm, the change you dropped in bluez is not upstream01:28
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seb128chrisccoulson, hey09:17
didrocksgood morning seb12809:17
seb128lut didrocks, c'est à cette heure là qu'on commence?09:17
didrocksseb128: euh non, je suis plus away depuis plus d'une heure moi :)09:18
seb128c'est ce qu'on dit09:18
didrocksahah ;)09:18
didrocksseb128: sinon, tu t'es encore couché tard, on dirait? ;)09:18
seb128didrocks, oui ...09:18
seb128I blame it on the ho,ckey09:19
didrockshehe, when I read the logs, I was thinking about that :)09:19
didrocksseb128: I just said "hello" because you talked (and as you know, I /ignore join/quit, so not noticed when you arrived) :)09:24
seb128didrocks, :-)09:25
seb128didrocks, how are you otherwise today? ;-)09:25
didrocksseb128: good, thanks :-) it will be more "catchup and paperwork/bug triaging day". Nothing too much intellectual today ;)09:26
didrocksand you? looking forward for the week-end to have some sleep?09:27
seb128didrocks, and some updates? ;-)09:27
seb128weirdly I don't feel too tired09:27
didrocksseb128: right, as it's opened again \o/ (and it's not too hard for a .91 release normally ;))09:27
seb128but yeah weekend will be nice09:28
seb128though I'm in a getting things done mood today09:28
didrockshehe, you will see tonight if you are still not too tired ;)09:28
chrisccoulsonhey seb12809:29
chrisccoulsonsorry, i went for breakfast there ;)09:29
didrockshey chrisccoulson, last day? :)09:29
seb128when it's not cake it's breakfast09:29
chrisccoulsondidrocks: yeah :)09:29
chrisccoulsonthere's still cake left from yesterday, but i'm not eating any today09:30
chrisccoulsonseb128 - i just saw bug 528255 in my inbox - that doesn't really need a manpage does it? (it's not the sort of binary that users should be running manually anyway)10:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 528255 in gdm "man gdm-simple-slave missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52825510:12
seb128no it's not in the user path anyway10:13
slomoseb128: i've updated totem with the patch in debian/experimental btw10:13
seb128it's in a lib private dir10:13
seb128slomo, hey10:13
seb128slomo, I did that in karmic too10:14
seb128slomo, and synced the new version10:14
seb128slomo, the codec install issue that guy was having with lot of files10:14
slomoseb128: great :) that's 2.29.91-1ubuntu1 then?10:14
seb128slomo, it turned to be bluez again10:14
slomoseb128: was it nekohayo? ;)10:14
seb128slomo, no, 2.29.91-0ubuntu210:14
seb128slomo, yes10:14
seb128slomo, I need to resync on debian at some point10:14
seb128slomo, but we have changes like launchpad integration or bbc player10:15
seb128so we are not in sync for totem10:15
slomook, he reported that upstream too :) you should really do something about bluez in ubuntu before the release10:15
slomodebian has the bbc player too but with some changes iirc10:15
seb128slomo, I fixed it against yesterday10:15
seb128slomo, rank-110:15
seb128baptistemm dropped that by error in lucid10:16
seb128against -> again10:16
slomogood :)10:16
seb128somebody should talk to upstream10:16
slomois there a bug against the debian package and upstream too?10:16
seb128I don't think so10:16
seb128there was a disagreement on whether it's a gstreamer bug or not10:16
seb128or if changing the rank is right10:17
slomowell, they use the gstreamer api, they should use it the way it was intended to be used10:17
seb128I still don't get what the issue is exactly10:17
seb128they claim having capabilities they don't have?10:18
seb128in which case wouldn't fixing that be the fix10:18
seb128rather than changing the rank?10:18
slomothe sink has a rank >= marginal which means that it can be automatically chosen by gconfaudiosink/autoaudiosink. but when it is automatically chosen it won't work because it needs the device property to be set to the bluetooth device, without setting that property it simply fails10:19
slomothe problem here now is, that there is no mp3 decoder installed and the a2dpsink claims to support mp3. which results in it being chosen over alsasink, pulsesink, $stuff10:20
seb128"the a2dpsink claims to support mp3"10:20
seb128isn't that the bug?10:20
seb128or a bug?10:20
slomoi don't think so, i could imagine that there are bluetooth devices out there which could play mp3 data10:21
seb128in any case I got the change in lucid for bluez10:22
seb128I will try to get that upstreamed too10:22
slomothanks, and i'll create a debian bugreport now :)10:23
seb128thank you10:23
seb128lut huats10:31
huatshello seb12810:34
huatshow areyou ?10:34
huatsgood too !10:35
seb128chrisccoulson, bug #528337 you know about righT?10:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 528337 in gnome-panel "System tray has multiple blank icons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52833710:37
seb128chrisccoulson, I mean you were speaking about a similar bug yesterday10:38
seb128what was it?10:38
seb128slomo, btw do you know if the fluendo mp3 codec create any issue?10:48
seb128I know we had bugs in the past in totem and rhythmbox for users who had it installed10:48
chrisccoulsonseb128 - yeah, there's an issue with the notification area which can be worked around by hiding the status icon before unreffing it10:48
chrisccoulsonthe fallback status icon in libappindicator was not doing that10:48
seb128chrisccoulson, can you write than on the bug or maybe dup it?10:49
chrisccoulsonbut tedg fixed it yesterday10:49
chrisccoulsonyeah, can do10:49
seb128chrisccoulson, if you have a clue about the issue ;-)10:49
seb128chrisccoulson, thanks10:49
slomoseb128: no idea, what are the problems?10:49
seb128slomo, none yet, just asking because the music store will pull that one by default10:49
mvompt: hey - in the report inappropriate dialog we have no "Reported by: ", but we do have this in the submit-review dialog. is this intentional?10:49
seb128slomo, so I'm trying to check we will not run in trouble10:49
slomoseb128: well, the pitivi homepage says that it shouldn't be installed :) i've to ask why10:50
seb128slomo, yeah, I was wondering about that too10:51
seb128slomo, seems pitivi has issues with codec installation too10:51
mptmvo, yes. The point of having "Reviewed by:" is to nudge people towards making their reviews polite. But flagging a review isn't public, so it doesn't really need that.10:51
mptDoes that make sense?10:51
seb128slomo, the fixes from yesterday make totem work but not pitivi10:51
mvompt: yes, I thought that was the reason, just wanted to confirm. I was wondering if it does make sense to still have it in a "report window" to show that a report is also linked to the person reporting it (to avoid frivolous reports)10:52
slomoseb128: yes, that's a pitivi bug though... totem is more or less the reference implementation and if it works there everything is good ;) apart from that there are unit tests now for playbin2 to check if it behaves correctly10:52
mptmvo, that's a good point. I'll update the mockup.10:52
mvompt: ok, thanks. either way is fine with me, I will add a "reported by" then10:53
seb128slomo, right, I though it would be a pitivi bug too ;-)10:53
seb128slomo, the dvd menus are still buggy with the current versions btw10:57
seb128the cursor doesn't change over items10:58
seb128and you can't click on those10:58
slomoseb128: ok :) please forward upstream then, i don't know much about the DVD menu stuff10:58
seb128ok, will do10:58
slomodobey: ping10:59
aquariusif a new version of webkitgtk came out a week from now, with a new signal that I'd find useful, would we need an FF exception to get it into lucid?11:01
aquarius(I am imagining the answer here is "yes, of course you would" :))11:01
seb128aquarius, yes of course you would11:01
* aquarius grins11:01
aquariusthought so11:01
seb128aquarius, I will just sync those anyway because epiphany-webkit need current webkit11:01
seb128we tend to be update for it11:01
aquariusseb128, aha, excellent.11:01
aquariusRight, I shall file a bug with the webkit people asking for my signal :)11:02
seb128that is your issue ;-)11:02
seb128but I guess if you want them to add it better to tell them11:02
didrockstseliot: with the nvidia proprio driver, I can't build any package which -lgl. I have a lot of linking issue (I hadn't them when I was using the one from the nvidia directly). Known issue?11:09
tseliotdidrocks: on 64bit?11:09
didrockstseliot: no, 3211:10
tseliotdidrocks: what does ldconfig -p | grep GL say?11:10
didrockstseliot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/384301/11:10
tseliotdidrocks: what does /usr/lib/libGL.so point to? And what's the error that you're getting?11:11
didrockstseliot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/384304/11:12
didrocks(I just paste a small part, I have tons of those errors)11:12
didrocksyesterday, I had to use pbuilder to get a chroot to build netbook-launcher11:13
tseliotdidrocks: and what does libGL.so.1 point to?11:13
didrocks(I used jockey to install the "current" version)11:14
tseliotsomething's wrong. libGL.so should point to the mesa libGL.so.1 file11:18
slomoseb128: you should probably remove gst-fluendo-mpeg{mux,demux} source packages, they're now contained in gst-plugins-bad0.10 since a long time11:20
seb128slomo, ok thanks11:21
slomoseb128: and i'm updating the mp3 decoder now, there were new upstream releases11:21
slomoseb128: should be safe with these versions :)11:21
tseliotdidrocks: ^^11:22
seb128slomo, you rock, thanks!11:22
didrockstseliot: it's not a clean install, I'll reinstall soon, so not a pb I can use pbuilder in the meantime. What is a little bit more annoying (and I get one confirmation by someone else on a clean box) is that Alt + 7 draws white square around your window (only with the nvidia driver) and nothing else (like when you do Alt + tab)11:22
didrocks(Alt + 7 is Alt + Shift + è in a french azerty keyboard and it's 7, not F7 :))11:23
tseliotdidrocks: if you messed with the nvidia installer that's the least it can happen ;)11:23
tseliottry with a clean installation, then, if the problem persists, I'll talk to Nvidia about it11:24
didrockstseliot: no, I can confirm that this appears with a clean install on someone else box11:24
didrockssee ^ :)11:24
didrockshey asac__11:24
asac__hi didrocks ...11:24
asac__so what 3D apps would be good demo apps for ubuntu? ;)11:25
tseliotdidrocks: what is alt+7 supposed to do?11:25
asac__to my mind come games ... any other ideas?11:25
didrockstseliot: nothing particular normally. Just in weechat, I use it to switch between chat room11:25
didrocksasac__: I pretty agree with games :) (yo frankie is in the repo?)11:26
tseliotdidrocks: I mean, does it trigger anything else in Gnome?11:26
tseliotor Compiz or Mutter or whatever11:26
didrockstseliot: I use metacity, not sure it trigger something, seb128 ? Alt + 7, no GNOME magic behind?11:27
seb128not that I know, what should that do?11:27
asac__what games are "top" atm? i quake3 feels kinda old ;)11:28
didrocksseb128: just to ensure it's not gnome or metacity making something bad (Alt + 7 is messing up here, I have a white square around the current window, as in Alt + tab)11:28
seb128I've no clue, alt-7 is not supposed to do anything no11:29
seb128it's a weird local config issue on your box I guess if you assigned that to something11:29
didrocksseb128: no, it's doing the same on another box for another user11:29
seb128I've just tried on my laptop and mini it does nothing as expected11:30
seb128not sure what your issue is...11:30
didrocksseb128: and it's used in weechat for switching between chat room, that's why I saw that (but it appears whenever the current window is)11:30
didrocksnvidia bin driver, as I don't have that with nouveau11:30
didrocksthat's why I pinged tseliot :)11:30
seb128no nvidia there11:30
seb128but it's weird that driver react to a non assigned keybinding11:31
seb128could be weechat doing weird things11:31
seb128I can't say since I don't run it11:31
didrocksseb128: even with weechat closed and in another app11:31
tseliotseb128: yes, I doubt they have keybindings in the driver ;)11:31
didrocksI can just say someone else reproduce that switching to the nvidia bin driver too11:32
tseliotdidrocks: let me test it on my computer. In what other apps can I reproduce the problem?11:32
didrocksasac__: yofrankie is in the repo, it's cool11:32
didrockstseliot: with every apps, it's not particular to anyone11:32
didrocks(I just discovered it in weechat first as I used that keybind with it)11:32
tseliotok, let me try here11:33
didrocksthanks tseliot :)11:33
seb128didrocks, stop drinking so much coffee you see things11:33
tseliotthanks for reporting the problem ;)11:33
didrocksseb128: I'm out of coffee!!! that can be the problem11:33
* didrocks runs to grab some coke 0 to get some cafein :)11:33
chrisccoulsondidrocks - do you drink a lot of coffee too?11:41
chrisccoulsoni ran out yesterday...11:41
slomoseb128: ok, so you want gst-fluendo-mp3 0.10.12-1 from debian/unstable :) i'm uploading it in a few minutes11:41
seb128chrisccoulson, you keep running out of coffee11:41
seb128slomo, danke11:41
didrockschrisccoulson: not that much TBH :)11:42
chrisccoulsonseb128 - that;s because i drink too much ;)11:42
seb128we need a quote bot there :p11:42
seb128we could add that one without context :p11:42
slomoseb128: the ubuntu change is included already11:43
seb128slomo, ok11:44
didrocksseb128: I agree context for quoting is most of the time useless :)11:47
slomoseb128: no, you want 0.10.12.debian-211:48
seb128slomo, noted ;-)11:49
didrocksasac: not sure you saw the "yofrankie is in the repo now" (http://www.yofrankie.org/ for more info)11:49
* asac checks it out11:49
ograis the fact that my mousewheel doesnt do anything when pointing to the volume applet and scrolling up/down a design decision or a bug ?12:01
seb128asac, hi12:13
seb128asac, bug #52641112:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 526411 in firefox "In a fresh installation, firefox search engines are ordered alphabetically" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52641112:13
seb128asac, is that an issue somebody is working on?12:13
seb128asac, we default to amazon for searches in alpha3 due to that12:14
asacdidnt you know that we have an amazon deal ;)12:15
seb128I do now!12:15
* seb128 blogs12:15
asacthats interestng ... i read tabout that bug, but i remember i tested it for de before we rolled out12:16
seb128asac, I get the issue on fr12:16
seb128and ara get it on es12:16
asacone second12:16
seb128so I guess it's several locales12:16
asacwhat do you have for browser.search.order.1 ?12:16
asacand browser.search.order.2 ?12:16
asacin about:config?12:16
asacand browser.search.defaultenginename12:16
seb128asac, the search order are set to chrome://ubufox/locale/ubufox-search.properties12:18
seb128same for defaultenginename12:18
asacif you open that page what do you ge?12:19
seb128firefox can't find the file at jar:file:///.....12:20
seb128I'm not on the box having the issue so I don't have the exact url12:20
seb128I can pastebin that though12:20
asacseb128: err ... so on what box do you have chrome://ubufox/locale/ubufox-search.properties ?12:20
asacon the same box where you get jar:file:///.....12:20
seb128I'm doing all the testing on the mini but wait, that's the livecd booted so it doesn't have langpacks12:21
* seb128 boots kvm install there12:22
seb128asac, ok, I've the fresh installed booted12:25
seb128asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/38434512:28
seb128asac, the file before the "!" is there12:30
seb128asac, not sure if the "!.." after jar is buggy?12:31
tseliotdidrocks: I can't reproduce the problem with nvidia here12:46
tseliotdidrocks: maybe it's a bug in nvidia-173? I'm using nvidia-current12:46
didrockstseliot: hum, jockey tells me I have nvidia-current and use it12:48
didrockstseliot: let me ask to the other guy, what should he checks?12:48
tseliotdidrocks: but the output on pastebin said 173, no?12:49
tseliotlibGL.so.173.14.20 is part of nvidia-17312:49
didrockstseliot: it was from the -dev package right? as I told you this is a crappy box, I prefer the one from the other guy as his one is just a clean install, that's why I ask him :)12:50
didrocksand I have no idea since you added the alternative things what should I check to see what version I'm using12:50
tseliotdidrocks: no, that's not from the -dev package but yes I suspect that your installation is bit messed up ;)12:50
didrockstseliot: I'm totally sure my installation is messed up. I'm just surprised that someone else can reproduce it in a clean install :)12:51
didrocksif he didn't say that, I won't ping you :)12:51
tseliotdidrocks: as I said, ldconfig -p | GL should show what libraries you're using. As regards checking alternatives: update-alternatives --display gl_conf12:52
didrockstseliot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/384358/ I can change the symlink for GL if you want, I point it to the mesa driver?12:54
tseliotdidrocks: it should point to /usr/lib/mesa/libGL.so.1 but that should only allow you to build things12:56
tseliotdidrocks: if "ldconfig -p | grep GL" reports libGL.so.173.14.20, then your GL libraries are messed up12:57
didrockstseliot: well, it reports nvidia-current. I tried to fix the symlink by hand in the meanwhile but still the error. I'll reinstall it soon, so, we will see. And I'll ask to what the other guy has done too13:03
didrockstseliot: thanks for helping btw13:03
tseliotdidrocks: np13:03
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dpmhi pitti, are the automatic PPA build for karmic enabled? If so, may I ask you to disable them while we're testing the langpacks in karmic-proposed?13:25
didrocksdpm: pitti is not there today13:29
dpmah, thanks for the info didrocks13:29
didrocksno pb :)13:29
didrocksseb128: ok, I hadn't the time yet to catchup everything, but at least, I try to do g-s-d, seahorse-plugins and g-c-c update13:59
seb128didrocks, chrisccoulson said he would do g-s-d and g-c-c14:01
seb128so maybe check with him before doing those?14:01
seb128you can resync gimp on debian otherwise too14:01
didrockssure, chrisccoulson ^ ?14:01
chrisccoulsonyeah, i'll be doing those this afternoon14:01
seb128and there is probably some others on the list14:01
didrocksok, let's for the gimp :)14:01
chrisccoulsoni've just got a few loose ends to tie up in my current job before i leave ;)14:02
didrocksseb128: we already have merged on debian, they didn't update yet14:02
didrockschrisccoulson: oh? my last day for me was just a… coffee day  )14:02
chrisccoulsondidrocks - heh, i've still got a few things i need to finish ;)14:02
chrisccoulsonbut i'm not very motivated to do it now14:03
seb128didrocks, weird14:03
seb128didrocks, I see 2.6.8 in debian and 2.6.7 in lucid14:03
didrocksseb128: I'm looking at http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/versions.html14:03
didrocksno more cron update?14:03
seb128it has been updated like 6 weeks ago in debian14:04
seb128I need to check why versions get it wrong14:04
Keybukweird issue of the day - emacs23 appears to have the wrong dpi setting compared to other GTK+ apps14:04
didrocksthat doesn't prevent me to resync so :)14:04
seb128kenvandine, Riddell: can you upgrade the releasestatus wikipage for this week dx, ols and kubuntu changes?14:11
NafaiIs anyone else having problems connecting to launchpad?14:11
seb128edge keeps login me out14:12
seb128but I can log in without issue14:12
Nafain/m, it was just my browser being weird, it wouldn't even bring up the page14:13
Nafairestarted the browser, things are all good14:13
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asacdidrocks: yofrankie does not continue when i push play ;)14:33
asac(which i first read as "pray" ;))14:33
didrocksasac: oh really? :) That's a game you can't stop playing so :p14:34
ograso *thats* the important tasks a tech lead has to do on fridays ? :P14:34
didrocksasac: I never tried the packaged version TBH, I tried it severall weeks ago14:34
didrocksogra: you know, the release meeting… :)14:34
asacogra: a customer wants that ;)14:34
kenvandinehey seb128, can you sponsor lp:ubuntu/rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store14:34
ograyeah yeah ...14:34
seb128kenvandine, ok14:34
asacogra: i didnt want to suggest them to optimize a game that doesnt run ;)14:34
* ogra grins14:35
LaserJockdidrocks: should I mark the onboard/vlc bugs as fixed on your lucid-bugs wiki page?14:39
didrocksLaserJock: sure, I was just going to do that but if you can do it, it's perfect :)14:39
asacdidrocks: it says something like:14:39
asacread library: lib //frankie_actions.blend14:39
asacread library: lib //momo_actions.blend14:39
asacNo CDROM devices available14:39
asacmaybe the data fils are missing?14:39
asace.g. it tries to find them on CDROM?14:39
didrocksasac: it seems yeah. I can find some time to try it on Monday afternoon if you want14:40
didrocksasac: again, I installed the tarball from upstream some month ago14:40
didrocksoh wait, there was a post on planet ubuntu when it was packaged14:40
* didrocks searches14:40
CardinalFangHah ha ha... ouch.  Ugh.  http://rhodesmill.org/brandon/2010/ubuntu-exception-190-modules/14:41
Riddellseb128: playing pitti for the day?14:41
seb128Riddell, yes14:41
Riddellseb128: I updated the page, I'll be out but scottk can speak up for us at the meeting14:42
seb128Riddell, ok thanks14:42
didrocksasac: no, nothing related to missing data in the post (http://blog.thesilentnumber.me/2010/02/yo-frankie-to-be-available-for-masses.html)14:42
asaci just wondered because apt-geinstall didnt really install the expected 100MB of data14:43
asacand .. no need to look ;) ... i will talk to bdrung who seems to be the maintainer14:45
LaserJockdidrocks: do you have a "to be fixed by beta1" list yet?14:45
didrocksLaserJock: not yet, I can setup it in one hour if you want to play during the week-end :)14:45
didrocksasac: ok, thanks. Keep me in touch :)14:45
LaserJockdidrocks: yeah, that'd be cool14:46
didrocksLaserJock: ok, let me test before uploading some stuff first and I ping you then :)14:46
CardinalFangpitti, I'm marking  https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/apport/+bug/528355  as medium-importance.  It's embarrassing but not a huge problem.14:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 528355 in apport "Unnecessary imports to work out apport reporting is disabled " [Medium,Confirmed]14:47
LaserJockdidrocks: sure sure, no rush. I'm just starting my day :-)14:50
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seb128rickspencer3, hey14:57
rickspencer3hiya seb12814:58
seb128rickspencer3, how are you?14:58
kenvandinehey rickspencer314:58
rickspencer3I'm doing ok, how about you seb128?14:59
rickspencer3hi kenvandine14:59
seb128rickspencer3, I'm good thanks15:00
seb128I'm happy I figured what is making ubiquity crash there15:00
seb128too make some hours15:00
seb128took make some hour15:01
seb128rather ;-)15:01
didrockshey rickspencer315:02
rickspencer3hi didrocks15:08
rickspencer3nice job on the ubuntu-cli template15:08
rickspencer3that will be really popular, and is a good model for other templates15:08
didrocksthanks :-)15:08
rickspencer3I'll try my pygame template on the plane tomorrow15:08
kklimondawhy are those templates are called "ubuntu-cli" and "ubuntu-project? :)15:08
didrocksrickspencer3: oh, you are travelling next week?15:08
rickspencer3didrocks, visiting my parents15:09
rickspencer3I"ll be working as normal15:09
didrocksoki :)15:09
rickspencer3kklimonda, because the templates are full of distro specific functions15:09
rickspencer3like on ubuntu, you make debs15:09
rickspencer3and you use PPAs for hosting15:09
rickspencer3the boiler plate may or may not be distro specific15:09
kklimondaI see15:10
rickspencer3kklimonda, is there another distro that you would like to make a template for?15:10
rickspencer3we would love to help, just hop into #quickly15:10
kklimondarickspencer3: there are other distros? ;)15:10
rickspencer3yes, and we love them15:10
rickspencer3I would love to see some for debian15:10
NafaiI only know of Debian and Ubuntu15:10
rickspencer3and some for Fedora would be nice15:11
LaserJockrickspencer3: has anybody done git/GitHub yet?15:11
rickspencer3maybe a c-based one for Fedora for folks who are targetting gnome more generally than just Ubuntu, etc...15:11
rickspencer3LaserJock, not yet15:11
chrisccoulsonright, home time for me :)15:14
rickspencer3bye chrisccoulson15:14
didrocksLaserJock: I have added a tag "Target Beta 1" in front of bugs that I wish we can fix because beta 1 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNE/lucid-bugs. I tried to have low hanging fruit and more complicated stuff as a target. I've added also all the "needs check" as a target as it can be quickly done15:21
LaserJockdidrocks: ok great15:22
didrocksLaserJock: just assign the bug to you if you want to work on something so that we don't double the effort15:22
LaserJockdidrocks: will do15:22
didrocksLaserJock: thanks a lot, if we can clear the list, that would rock!15:22
LaserJockdidrocks: so "Should be fixed, need checking" are bugs are older bugs that might have been fixed already but the bug hasn't been closed?15:31
didrocksLaserJock: right. Most of those bugs should have been triggered by non 3D driver. I expect to 3D/2D fallback to cover 80% of the case where netbook-launcher just crashed before. We need to ask those people to try lucid to see if they still suffer from it (and ask for graphic card/driver used if they didn't report it)15:32
LaserJockdidrocks: I was just looking at bug #252920 and it looks like it's still there to me15:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 252920 in netbook-remix "Window picker applet and drag and drop " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25292015:34
didrocksLaserJock: really? let me check as I used that IIRC15:35
didrocksLaserJock: oh right, the bug is still there15:37
didrocksLaserJock: you can change the upstream status and maybe update the page to a previous section?15:38
LaserJockdidrocks: sure15:38
didrockssweet, thanks!15:38
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didrocksseb128: do you still have your gimp branch? it seems you didn't push the last version15:53
seb128didrocks, let me look15:54
didrocksit's old in November :)15:54
seb128didrocks, no, is it in bzr?15:56
didrocksseb128: yes, in ~ubuntu-desktop/gimp/ubuntu. No worry, I include your changes15:56
rickspencer3seb128, remember that "sound delay" bug in pygame15:58
rickspencer3is this it?15:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 295369 in pygame "pygame sound is delayed a lot" [Undecided,New]15:58
seb128didrocks, thanks16:04
seb128rickspencer3, yes16:04
rickspencer3seb128, this needs fixing16:06
seb128rickspencer3, yes sir!16:06
rickspencer3seb128, who should I assign it to?16:06
* rickspencer3 whip cracking noises16:07
seb128hum, that is a good question16:07
rickspencer3TheMuso ?16:07
seb128the issue seems an interaction with pulseaudio one16:07
rickspencer3I'm wondering if perhaps pygame is not using pulse correctly?16:07
seb128I would suggest asking TheMuso if he has some idea about it yes16:07
rickspencer3I'm betting there is a patch somewhere for htis16:07
seb128I had a quick look to other distribution packages by then16:08
seb128but I didn't spot one16:08
seb128and upstream website was down16:08
rickspencer3the delay is bearable on my desktop16:09
rickspencer3but seemed bad on my netbook16:09
chrisccoulsongnomefreak - i'm not sure i understand what your issue is on bug 495773?16:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 495773 in gnome-screensaver "Screensavers do not work at all" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49577316:22
chrisccoulsondoes the screensaver never activate, do the animated screensavers not work, can you not manually activate the screensaver?16:23
chrisccoulsonDear launchpad, please stop logging me out16:23
gnomefreakchrisccoulson: none of them work. screen goes blank when a screensaver should start16:26
gnomefreakchrisccoulson: atm i havent found one that works16:27
chrisccoulsonah, ok. does the preview work in the preferences dialog?16:27
gnomefreakchrisccoulson: yes16:27
chrisccoulsonand it works if you run something like /usr/lib/xscreensaver/gltext ?16:27
gnomefreakIIRC all previews work16:28
chrisccoulsoncould you do "killall gnome-screensaver && gnome-screensaver --debug --no-daemon 2>&1 | tee ~/gnome-screensaver.log" and attach the log file to the bug report after activating the screensaver?16:28
gnomefreakyes it works using that command. well at least it works in the box16:28
chrisccoulsonalso, does the lock dialog work ok?16:29
gnomefreakok one minute16:29
gnomefreakchrisccoulson: it did at one point but i disabled it16:29
chrisccoulsonthat's strange then. the lock dialog uses the same mechanism for appearing on the screen16:29
chrisccoulsonanyway, the verbose output from gnome-screensaver might give some hint16:30
gnomefreakgnome-screensaver: no process found16:30
chrisccoulsonhmmm, there should be one already running16:32
* gnomefreak started it first lets see what it gives me16:32
chrisccoulsonthat might be why you just get a black screen16:32
chrisccoulsonif there is no gnome-screensaver running, you'll just get the built-in Xorg screensaver16:32
gnomefreakchrisccoulson: i uploaded file to bug report16:33
gnomefreakchrisccoulson: np16:34
gnomefreakchrisccoulson: openID has gone under some changes that maybe why you cant stay logged in16:41
ccheneygot called to come back in to the doctor to have them check me out16:47
ccheneyapparently they didn't think that my muscle pain, etc was caused by the meds even though it has a blackbox warning for that specifically16:48
ccheneywill be interesting to see what they come up with, heh16:49
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LaserJockdidrocks: ok, I went through "Should be fixed, need checking" and 2 weren't fixed, 2 are fixed, 1 I'm waiting to hear back, and 1 I couldn't figure out how to test easily17:18
didrocksLaserJock: good progress! thanks for your work there17:19
LaserJockdidrocks: so for the n-l-efl ones are we testing if the automatic fallback works?17:23
LaserJockor do they need to explicitly do something?17:23
didrocksLaserJock: no, it's just about checking that they get at least something (the new or previous launcher)  :)17:25
LaserJockdidrocks: ok, went through those and now they all have requests for a retry in Lucid17:40
didrocksLaserJock: can you put a comment on the wiki page to mark that? :)17:40
NafaiI wish when I used aptitude changelogs were available more often when I hit C18:02
rickspencer3seb128, kenvandine, bryceh, ccheney, didrocks, Riddell, I'm taking off for the day in about 30 minutes18:22
rickspencer3please let me know if  you need somethign before then18:22
seb128rickspencer3, have a good weekend!18:22
rickspencer3I'll be available by cell of course18:22
seb128no, I'm about to take off too18:23
rickspencer3thanks seb12818:23
rickspencer3all, please note that I will be gone ...18:23
rickspencer3thanks seb12818:23
brycehrickspencer3, cya18:24
didrocksrickspencer3: everything's ok. Have a safe travel :)18:26
rickspencer3thanks didrocks18:26
rickspencer3I should have the pygame template ready by Monday18:27
didrocksrickspencer3: sweet, I'll tweak the create command a little this week-end to be more generic and merge philip's proposal as well :)18:27
didrocks3 templates in Quickl 0.4 ;)18:28
rickspencer3didrocks, ok18:28
rickspencer3but I think it's working ok for me18:28
rickspencer3I am just copying the ubuntu-project template18:28
rickspencer3seems to work so far18:28
didrocksrickspencer3: you mean, having the same file names, right?18:28
didrocksseb128: care about sponsoring gimp before the week-end? got a reject :)18:34
seb128didrocks, where is it?18:34
didrocksseb128: lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gimp/ubuntu18:34
didrocksseb128: there is one regression which is "click on help menu, and gimp is frozen"18:35
didrocks(if you don't have help installed)18:35
didrocksseb128: it's reported upstreamed, I didn't checked 2.7 to see if it's fixed already. Doing that on Monday18:36
seb128no hurry don't worry18:36
didrockssweet, thanks  :)18:36
seb128didrocks, can you copy the gimp .dsc .changes .diff.gz somewhere rather?18:38
seb128didrocks, if you still have those18:38
seb128that will avoid me downloading the orig tarball18:38
didrocksseb128: sure18:40
seb128didrocks, thanks18:40
didrocksseb128: LP keep it when he rejects an upload? You won't have to (as it's a new upstream version)18:41
seb128didrocks, no it doesn't18:41
seb128didrocks, but I will wget the debian one from a dc box18:42
seb128and dput from there18:42
seb128so I just have to design and scp the .dsc and .changes from there18:42
seb128design -> debsign18:42
didrocksseb128: ok. it's there: http://people.canonical.com/~didrocks/gimp/18:44
didrocksseb128: it's the new quilt format btw18:44
seb128I noticed from the changelog, thanks18:45
didrockswell, I think it's time to enjoy some rest :)18:46
didrockshave a nice week-end seb12818:46
seb128didrocks, same there, thank you, you too!18:46
didrocksand enjoy to end of the olympic games :)18:46
kenvandinehave a nice weekend didrocks18:46
didrocksyou too kenvandine18:46
seb128'night, have a good weekend everybody, see you later20:15
chrisccoulsonkenvandine - do you remember in karmic that there was an issue with empathy drawing a black line in the notification area? (which you fixed)20:51
chrisccoulsonempathy seems to be doing the same again now. i'm not sure if you've noticed that yet20:52
kenvandinei hadn't noticed!20:52
kenvandinerunning a dark theme20:52
chrisccoulsonkenvandine, bug 528637 FYI20:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 528637 in empathy "1 px black line in the notification area" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52863720:52
chrisccoulsonyeah, you might not notice it with the dark theme ;)20:52
chrisccoulsoni'm just using the stock theme20:52
kenvandineswitched themes... not seeing it20:53
kenvandinealthough in karmic it wasn't there all the time20:53
chrisccoulsonyeah, it doesn't happen all the time20:53
chrisccoulsoni only notice it occasionally, but it only ever happens with empathy open20:54
kenvandineindeed... when empathy starts i see a line flicker there20:55
kenvandinebut it goes away20:55
kenvandineit was because it does new_notification_with_icon20:56
kenvandineso the notification is tied to the status icon20:57
kenvandinebut with our patch, it shouldn't do that20:57
chrisccoulsonyeah, i'm not sure. you understand the issue better than i do ;)20:57
chrisccoulsonkenvandine, do you want me to assign the bug to you?20:58
kenvandineplease do20:58
chrisccoulsoncool, thanks20:58
Sarvatthmm, is the gpm applet all screwy for anyone else? it shows the battery state right, but the dropdown is empty when I click on it and right click - about thinks its indicator applet21:00
chrisccoulsonSarvatt - please upgrade to the latest version :)21:02
chrisccoulsonit's already fixed21:02
chrisccoulsonsomeone else just reported the same issue, and they're still using the broken version too21:02
Sarvattahh i switched away from the main mirror because it was so slow, my new mirror must be really behind21:04
Sarvatti'm still on ubuntu8 and theres nothing new, thanks chrisccoulson21:05
chrisccoulsonSarvatt, ubuntu921:05
Sarvattyeah i saw, the mirror i was using stinks :)21:06
chrisccoulsonheh, yeah, thats why i don't use a mirror for the development release21:06
Sarvatti just switched for a bit because the 10KB/second speeds for a few days were getting to me and forgot to switch back21:07
chrisccoulsonyeah, sometimes the speed sucks, but i don't normally have an issue21:07
chrisccoulson(except at release time)21:08
Sarvattjeeze 142MB of updates now21:08
chrisccoulsonyour mirror is quite out of date then ;)21:09
kenvandinechrisccoulson, thx for pointing that out, it looks like someone combined a couple of the patches into the libindicate one and reverted that fix21:15
chrisccoulsonkenvandine, ah, good catch. thanks!21:16
NafaiI was wondering what the black line was I was seeing up there21:18
* kenvandine merged it back in.. testing21:27
chrisccoulsonkenvandine, thanks for fixing it :)21:41
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dyekHi! Where can I find pv-grub? Is there a package that contains this (Xen?) utility?22:15
chrisccoulsonfantastic. i've got to recover my file system, again22:15
desrtdyek: this is quite an odd channel to be asking this question.22:17
dyekdesrt: Sorry. Which channel is the best for this Ubuntu package-availability question?22:20
dyekchrisccoulson: OK! Thanks!22:21
chrisccoulson_kenvandine - did you say you were getting corrupted filesystems?22:27
* ccheney is upgrading his main dev box to lucid :)22:29

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