[00:07] <altf2o> so i'm on Ubuntu 8.04 LTS and am testing a basic Samba [homes] share, with recycle\trash bin enabled. From Windows clients when i delete files\folders they correctly go into my named folder:  .trash  , however when connecting to the same server from a Linux client:  \\ubuntu804vs\altf2o  , same home directory, deleting anything gives an error it can't move the file to the trash and if i want to delete immediately. Anyone know if Linux cl
[01:45] <RoAkSoAx> zul, the dh_apport be in binary-arch rule or install rule. I'm guessing is in install right?
[01:45] <zul> RoAkSoAx: i think so look at openssh as an example
[01:46] <RoAkSoAx> zul, i am doing that actually :)
[01:47] <RoAkSoAx> and im asking this openssh is packaged with cdbs and the openvpn is package with debhelper
[01:47] <zul> i think its install
[01:49] <RoAkSoAx> zul, isn't there a wikipage that explains the process?
[01:49] <RoAkSoAx> or the packaging changes/
[01:50] <zul> RoAkSoAx: no there isnt for dh_apport since its quite new
[01:50] <RoAkSoAx> zul, ok I guess I'll just take a look at other packages :)
[01:50] <RoAkSoAx> thanks btw
[01:51] <zul> RoAkSoAx: np, thanks for helping out with the apport hooks stuff
[01:51] <RoAkSoAx> no prob :)
[02:06] <Sargalus> hello, I have, does Ubuntu-Server come with all the packges to run xwindows and all that good stuff
[02:08] <RoAkSoAx> zul, btw... I think there's a small error in debian/openssh-server.apport, it is missing a '[' in the last line
[02:08] <zul> RoAkSoAx: k ill check
[02:08] <RoAkSoAx> report['SSHDConfig'] = root_command_output(**MISSING [**'/usr/sbin/sshd', '-T'])
[02:45] <Mack> what is the channel for php?
[02:46] <twb> #/dev/null
[02:46] <twb> But probably #php or ##php
[02:46] <twb> Mack: 13:46 <twb> But probably #php or ##php
[02:46] <Mack> twb: it wasnt #php :/
[02:46] <Mack> if it was, i got put in overflow
[02:51] <RoAkSoAx> zul, how do I determine which information i need from the package... let's say openvpn, i'm attaching the conffile... how do I know what else is needed?
[02:55] <twb> RoAkSoAx: if the packager did her job, she'll have included reportbug/apport hooks to collect any additional information automatically.
[02:56] <RoAkSoAx> twb, well I'm actually creating an apport hook for openvpn that's why I'm asking how do I determine what information is necessary to attach :)
[02:57] <Roxyhart0> hi somebody know how i can setting syncronization windows client and samba file server. I got many acocunt working in the cliwnts and everytime is trying to syncronize every user instead just the current user (logon in) and is taking long time to synchronize.
[02:59] <twb> Right
[03:04] <twb> I'm building Lucid live images.  All *was* working fine, but suddenly they no longer run /etc/rc.local, and I can't work out why.
[03:06] <Roxyhart0> hi somebody know how i can setting syncronization windows client and samba file server. I got many acocunt working in the cliwnts and everytime is trying to syncronize every user instead just the current user (logon in) and is taking long time to synchronize.
[03:06] <Roxyhart0> I mean i just need sincrhoniza the curretn user who login in windows clients not every user in this machine. any idea?
[03:12] <Mack_> twb: it was ##php :/ i forgot to id
[03:16] <twb> Whatever
[03:26] <twb> Grmph.  Who thought it was a good idea to change upstart's /etc directory
[03:34] <cef> twb: better off asking lucid q's in #ubuntu+1
[03:35]  * twb girds his loins for the noise and newbieness of #ubuntu+1
[03:37] <twb> Never mind, I can see it in /etc/rc?.d/S99rc.local
[03:39] <twb> AAAAAAARGH
[03:40] <twb> You know why it wasn't working?  I was still passing "single" to the kernel.
[03:52] <maxagaz> how to do a grep in all files except tar.gz files ?
[03:53] <twb> maxagaz: grep --exclude \*.tar.gz
[03:54] <maxagaz> twb, thanks
[03:55] <maxagaz> is there a way to check who is the last user to access a file ?
[03:58] <skrite> hey all, what do i put in my my.cnf to allow mysql connections from another computer?
[04:02] <twb> maxagaz: not by default.  You might be able to set up some accounting if you knew in advance.
[04:04] <maxagaz> twb, ok, install something like ossec you mean
[04:05] <twb> Whatever
[05:06] <arakthor> Does anyone know how to show a list of packages based on their source (eg. -universe) in command line?
[05:11] <twb> You mean like "apt-cache policy procps" ?
[05:12] <arakthor> twb, not quite. At least on mine it lists: Installed version, candidate version, and version table as well the status
[05:12] <arakthor> hmm
[05:12] <arakthor> I see
[05:12] <arakthor> on my other system it does store the origin information
[05:13] <arakthor> but I was looking for something more like "List all packages from universe. magically."
[05:35] <twb> I think you can use ~A or something
[05:35] <twb> That might be for -security vs. -backports, though
[05:36] <twb> Yeah, it is: aptitude -syV install "~U ~S ~VCANDIDATE ~Ahardy-security"
[05:36] <twb> Closest thing I can think of is vrms
[05:40] <arakthor> twb, thanks
[07:28] <Roxyhart08>  somebody know any script to generate ldap accounts from a text o cvs file?
[08:59] <panter> hi .. i have problem with my own deb repository ... i have few own packages (mostly with scripts) .. and need to install and update this packages on several servers .... i followed this tutorial ... http://mediakey.dk/~cc/howto-create-your-own-debian-or-ubuntu-package-repository/ ... i can add repository to /etc/apt/sources.list but i can't see packages from my repo ... is there anybody who can help me?
[09:04] <_ruben> panter: when you run 'sudo apt-get update' .. do see references to your own repo?
[09:05] <panter> _ruben, apt-get download Packages file from my repo ... but i can't see packages from my repo ...
[09:06] <_ruben> and the packages file isnt empty or something like that?
[09:07] <panter> _ruben, no ... 1 package is in Packages file ... when i run synaptic and add repo ... list of packages is downloaded ... but in filter packages by origin i can't see my repo ...
[09:08] <_ruben> hmm .. dunno then, never used synaptic either
[09:17] <panter> _ruben, any other ideas?
[09:18] <_ruben> i use mini-dinstall to "manage" my own repo, which works like a charm
[09:23] <panter> _ruben, moment .. i look on it ..
[09:23] <twb> I've always used dpkg-scanpackages or so when I needed to make an apt repo from .debs
[09:23] <twb> panter: origins are defined in the Release file
[09:23] <twb> panter: maybe your repo doesn't have one?
[09:24] <panter> twb, i used dpkg-scanpackages too ... moment .. i take a look ..
[09:25] <panter> twb, there is a problem .. how can i create Release file?
[09:25] <twb> "compose Release" ?
[09:27] <panter> twb, in which dir i need to run it?
[09:27] <twb> Same one as has the Packages file
[09:29] <panter> twb, "compose Release" is the exact command? i got error: Warning: unknown mime-type for "Release" -- using "application/octet-stream"
[09:29] <panter> Error: no "compose" mailcap rules found for type "application/octet-stream"
[09:30] <twb> Ha.
[09:30] <twb> Try "editor Release", then.
[09:32] <panter> twb, :) ... Release is the simple text file? what i need to write to it?
[09:33] <twb> Eh, just compare some existing Ubuntu ones
[09:36] <soren> ...or use a path name in sources.list or use a simple repository management app, like falcon or reprepro.
[09:36] <twb> Nod
[09:37] <panter> twb, ok .. thanks
[09:37] <twb> I wasn't meaning to imply that dpkg-scanpackages was the *right* way
[09:37] <panter> soren, thanks for advices
[09:37] <twb> I haven't made a PPA by hand for ages -- mdn and debian proper are better :-)
[09:45] <soren> Woooo!
[09:45]  * soren finally nailed bug 260682
[09:47] <jiboumans> soren++
[09:49] <mastapat11> does anyone know if there will be an upgrade path to go from server 6.06 to 10.04 and skip 8.04?
[09:50] <_ruben> dont think so
[09:51] <jiboumans> mastapat11: the recommended upgrade paths are from release to release or LTS to LTS
[09:53] <soren> mastapat11: It's not a supported upgrade path. It /may/ work, but if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces.
[09:53] <mastapat11> right. i saw that, but if i have it around for 4 or 5 yrs then want to up i can't jump to the then current LTS. i might as well just up every 2 yrs or so, cuz you still have to do 2 upgrades to get to a current ver 4 yrs later
[09:55] <mastapat11> haha. i'll image the server b4 trying it. but it would be all manual right! the do-release only works to lts --> next lts
[09:56] <soren> Yeah, I don't think it has a special knob you can tweak to JFDI.
[10:02] <jussi01> who runs uvirtbot?
[10:03] <soren> I do.
[10:03] <soren> jussi01: Why?
[10:04] <jussi01> soren: would you mind popping the details on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots please?
[10:07] <soren> jussi01: Doing so.
[10:07] <jussi01> soren: thanks!
[10:26] <swift_> guys, when i do 'aptitude update' on my uuntu 6.10 server, i get edgy errors
[10:26] <swift_> looks like packages aren't present at the source location
[10:26] <swift_> please advise if i can get these
[10:27] <swift_> how can i successfully update my ubuntu6.10
[10:27] <swift_> i dont want to update to a higher version
[10:27] <swift_> just normal package upadtes
[10:27] <Daviey> swift_: What do you mean by "edgy" errors?
[10:28] <johe|work> 6.10 ?
[10:28] <johe|work> does ubuntu really has such old repos? nice
[10:28] <_ruben> 6.10 is eol for a long time
[10:28] <_ruben> !edgy
[10:28] <swift_> Daviey, please check this out http://pastebin.com/PEcL5w9a
[10:28] <johe|work> oh, i see
[10:29] <_ruben> there's an old-releases archive
[10:29] <swift_> guys, so that's y?.. so i can't update my server?
[10:29] <Daviey> oh, swift_ - you really should upgrade.. you know you are getting no security support?
[10:29] <_ruben> swift_: you really should be upgrading to a newer version
[10:29] <_ruben> several versions even
[10:29] <swift_> right now.. it's a production machine
[10:29] <_ruben> even worse
[10:29] <swift_> i just wanna run the update
[10:29] <swift_> as a maintenance
[10:29] <_ruben> there havent been security updates for nearly 2 years
[10:30] <swift_> is there no way to get these packages?
[10:30] <_ruben> use the old-releases archive
[10:30] <swift_> so it's not possible to update?
[10:30] <Daviey> swift_: If you want long term, you should really use LTS editions.. Dapper, the previous release is still supported on the server
[10:31] <swift_> for now, il be using 6.10
[10:31] <swift_> so, can i have a short term solution?
[10:31] <swift_> how can i get these packages?
[10:31] <swift_> online?
[10:31] <Daviey> swift_: you can install things from http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ , but *note*
[10:31] <Daviey> ^^ add that to your sources.list, but there are NO updates to them
[10:32] <_ruben> like i said, use the old-releases archive
[10:32] <Daviey> swift_: The only think we can really recommend is that you upgrade to a supported version
[10:32] <_ruben> its like running windows 3.1 and expecting windows update to (if onnly windows update were to exist even back then :P)
[10:32] <_ruben> +work
[10:32] <swift_> _ruben... how do i use the old release archive?
[10:33] <jpds> swift_: deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main universe ...
[10:33] <_ruben> swift_: basically replace "archive.ubuntu.com" with "old-releases.ubuntu.com"
[10:33] <_ruben> in your sources.list
[10:34] <Daviey> swift_: sudo sed -i 's/us.archive.ubuntu.com/old-releases.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:37] <swift_> guys, what about  http://security.ubuntu.com???... not supported anymore??
[10:37] <swift_> can i get the latest security updates?
[10:39] <johe|work> swift_, shouldnt work for an eol, your packages are just that old :-)
[10:39] <swift_> ohk
[10:43] <jpds> swift_: No, edgy will never recieve a security update anymore.
[10:44] <swift_> so, il have to go for a dist-upgrade then
[10:44] <jpds> Yes.
[10:44] <jpds> If you want security updates.
[10:54] <johe|work> just ask
[10:54] <johe|work> would a dist upgrade work?
[10:54] <johe|work> cause the version behind 6.10 is also not supported?!?
[10:55] <Daviey> Dapper is supported on the server still.
[10:55] <johe|work> next LTS woud be Hardy i guess
[10:56] <johe|work> but dapper is before , so it would be dowgrading
[10:56] <johe|work> or i'am confused, maybe that
[10:59] <Daviey> johe|work: you can't downgrade to dapper, and you can't directly upgrade to hardy
[10:59] <Daviey> (shouldn't at least)
[11:00] <Daviey> swift_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#6.10 to 8.04 (Edgy to Hardy)
[11:00] <johe|work> oh, i thought only LTS to LTS upgrade works, so i thought it would be an upgrade  to every version , my fault
[11:00] <swift_> thanks Daviey!
[11:02] <johe|work> well, as it is told on the page :We will do the following upgrades, 6.10 to 7.04 to 7.10 to 8.04.3 LTS.
[11:03] <johe|work> so there is no directly upgrade from 6.10 to hardy
[11:04] <Cromulent> wouldn't it be better to wait for 10.04LTS?
[11:04] <soren> lool: ubuntu-vm-buider should be functional again (in bzr).
[11:05] <johe|work> Cromulent, why? after upgrading to hardy it will be only one direct upgrade
[11:05] <lool> soren: Cool
[11:05] <Cromulent> true I guess - but you might as well do it all at the same time rather than having to do upgrades twice
[11:07] <johe|work> Cromulent, maybe right, but would be the same way only at one day than at two days, i think the admin should think about :-)
[11:07] <Cromulent> johe|work: well, just a suggestion :)
[11:09] <johe|work> Cromulent, :-)
[11:09] <johe|work> well, to be honest, i wouldnt upgrade, i would try to set up an LTS and migrate the services running on it
[11:38] <rags> hello, I just did a safe upgrade on Hardy and I get some lilo warnings ...the total upgrade went thru..But now I'm a bit worried with the warnings..I see "Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed"..reason for concern?
[11:42] <ivoks> ttx: here?
[11:43] <rags> join /ubuntu
[11:56] <soren> rags: Probably not, no.
[11:57] <rags> soren: Thx...getting it sorted out in the #ubuntu channel..:)
[11:57] <soren> rags: You can get rid of it by adding a line with "lba32" in lilo.conf.
[11:57] <soren> rags: It just means: "Hey, you didn't explicitly tell me to, but all sanity bids me to use lba32, so that's what I'm going to do."
[11:57] <soren> rags: Putting lba32 in lilo.conf tells lilo that you're cool with that.
[11:58]  * soren goes to lunch
[11:58] <rags> soren: ohh...ok...I'll add it then..Thx
[12:01] <ivoks> doh... bacula
[12:15] <soren> ivoks: What's doh about bacula?
[12:20] <ivoks> soren: packaging
[12:29] <ttx> ivoks: yo
[12:29] <ivoks> ttx: hi; how are you? :D
[12:29] <ttx> ivoks: Like a post-milestone Friday
[12:30] <ivoks> :)
[12:30] <ivoks> chilling?
[12:30] <ttx> quiet :)
[12:32] <ivoks> i've provided solution for bug 325109
[12:32] <ivoks> patch is only for hardy, but it could be made for intrepid too; bug doesn't exist in jaunty+
[12:33] <ivoks> additionaly to this patch
[12:33] <ttx> ok, not a papercut then, must be lucid :P
[12:33] <ivoks> docs should be modified to mention that one should have running sql daemon before installation
[12:41] <ttx> ivoks: ok, feel free to open a docs task, I'll close the lucid/bacula one
[12:41] <ivoks> i did
[12:41] <ttx> ok :)
[12:57] <henkjan> [895003.111679] BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 11s! [kswapd0:336]
[12:58] <henkjan> anyone seen this lately?
[13:03] <henkjan> bug 353070
[13:20] <smoser> soren, (likely someone else knows, but I know you showed me once), how is it that you can "share" a .bzr directory.  ie, i want to have multiple branches of, say 'cloud-utils', but not multiple copies of everything.
[13:25] <zul> bzr looms is what I think you are looking for but not sure
[13:26] <smoser> no... i think its stacked branches
[13:26] <ttx> stgraber: about the call for help on LXC testing, you can also add an item on the agenda wikipage under "open discussion", that way I'll remember to talk about it if you're not available.
[13:26] <smoser> but i dont know exactly how to use it.
[13:31] <Omahn> Anybody know when the fixed version of Upstart will be uploaded? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/527722
[13:32] <soren> smoser: There are a few things sort of like that, but what I use is a top level directory for all my e.g. VMBuilder branches.
[13:33] <smoser> yeah... explain ?
[13:33] <smoser> i just tried this:
[13:33] <smoser> bzr init euca2ools
[13:33]  * soren is on the phone...
[13:33] <smoser> cd euca2ools
[13:33] <soren> sorry
[13:33] <soren> It just rang.
[13:33] <smoser> bzr branch some-branch
[13:33] <Omahn> ttx, stgraber: LXC testing? I'm up for that. I've just built a machine for that very purpose. Do we have a testcase to run through?
[13:33] <smoser> but .bzr has nothing in it after that, but some-branch/.bzr has a bunch
[13:33] <smoser> soren, when you get a chance, thanks.
[13:34] <soren> smoser: bzr help init-repo
[13:34] <smoser> thats what i needed.
[13:34] <smoser> thanks
[13:37] <ttx> Omahn: cool ! stgraber wanted some help in testing / documentation, see if you can grab him
[13:37] <Omahn> ttx: Will do, ta.
[13:38] <Omahn> Can I prod anyone about that upstart bug? 527722
[13:41] <Omahn> Trying to do some upgrade testing from 8.04 to 10.04 but it's currently blocked by that bug.
[13:57] <soren> bug 527722
[14:20] <panter> soren, do you have experiences with reprepro?
[14:21] <bogeyd6> anyone know where to download update-motd backport for 8.04?
[14:22] <soren> panter: Years ago, yes.
[14:23] <panter> soren, everything goes well ... but there is error when i try add deb package to repo ... "Error 2 opening override file 'override.karmic': No such file or directory" ... override.karmic exist on override dir in repository base ..
[14:24] <soren> panter: No idea.
[14:24] <panter> soren, ok ... thanks ..
[14:29] <panter> soren, i figure it out ... override dir is obsolete .. override files are now in conf dir .. :) .. thanks for tip for easy program for manage repo ..
[14:30] <soren> Sure
[14:30] <stas> hi, I got a problem with vsftpd, I can make directories, but when I upload something into those, I get "226 Transfer done (but failed to open directory)."
[14:31] <stas> I found solutions related to SELinux, but this is not an issue on Ubuntu
[14:31] <stas> any tips? thanks in advance.
[14:33] <bogeyd6> stas, is the vsftpd chrooted?
[14:33] <stas> nvm, anon_world_readable_only=NO did the trick
[14:33] <stas> bogeyd6: nope,
[14:33] <stas> but I still can't change permissions on the created directories
[14:34] <bogeyd6> stas, pastebin your vsftpd.conf
[14:35] <bogeyd6> paste.ubuntu.com
[14:35] <bogeyd6> !pastebin
[14:37] <stas> bogeyd6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/384405/
[14:39] <bogeyd6> stas,  lines 8 and 9 is your problem
[14:40] <bogeyd6> stas, http://vsftpd.beasts.org/vsftpd_conf.html
[14:40] <stas> bogeyd6: not sure, vsftpd runs as www-data too
[14:40] <stas> bogeyd6: ok, I found that non_umask=022 fixes that
[14:41] <bogeyd6> glad we could be of help, happy file serving!
[14:42] <stas> thats weird, I can't get why vsftpd treats me as an annon connection, I got local_enable so why am I still annon
[14:42] <stas> imho, once a user is recognized with pam, that's not annonymous anymore
[14:43] <Jeeves_> You're trying to upload?
[14:44] <bogeyd6> there is no reason to set chown options you did when anonymous is disabled
[14:45] <bogeyd6> so vsftpd did exactly what you wanted, although you were cornfused stas
[14:48] <stas> bogeyd6: oki, good it works now :)
[14:58] <zroysch> what do you do when a drive doesnt show up in fdisk -l
[14:59] <Jeeves_> http://rhodesmill.org/brandon/2010/ubuntu-exception-190-modules/
[15:06] <kwork> zroysch,  you are missint sata/raid controller drivers
[15:06] <zroysch> kwork: other drives work.
[15:17] <ivoks> is it only me or dbconfig-common is broken in lucid?
[15:18] <zul> eh?
[15:18] <ivoks> Setting up bacula-director-pgsql (3.0.2-3ubuntu2) ...
[15:18] <ivoks> [: 477: missing ]
[15:18] <ivoks> /usr/share/dbconfig-common/dpkg/config: line 113: [: missing `]'
[15:18] <zul> innnnteresting
[15:19] <ivoks> populating database via sql...  error encountered populating database:
[15:19] <ivoks> psql: FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user "bacula"
[15:20] <ivoks>                 if [ "$DEBIAN_FRONTEND" = "noninteractive" || "$RET" != "true" ]; then
[15:20] <ivoks> that's line 113
[15:20] <ivoks> looks fine to me
[15:21] <zul> ivoks: thats fixed in the dbconfig-common git tree
[15:22] <ivoks> bug 508382
[15:23] <ivoks> that's really about 'bacula director doesn't start, at all' :)
[15:23] <ivoks> oh, the bug is about mysql
[15:23] <ivoks> well, neither mysql or pgsql work :D
[15:25]  * soren heads out for dinner
[15:25] <ivoks> soren: bon apetit
[15:26] <zul> jdstrand: ping
[15:29] <jdstrand> zul: yes?
[15:30] <zul> jdstrand: can you sync dbconfig-common for us? It fixes a regression in lucid bug #526587
[15:33] <ivoks> i can confirm that this fix makes bacula-director-pgsql installable
[15:34] <ivoks> and when patch from bug 508382 is added to bacula, we should have fully working solution again
[15:34] <jdstrand> zul, ivoks: done
[15:34] <ivoks> jdstrand: thank you!
[15:34] <jdstrand> sure! :)
[15:34] <zul> jdstrand: merci
[15:34] <ivoks> ah, canadians
[15:34] <jdstrand> heh
[15:35] <ivoks> zul: so, good game against russia?
[15:35] <zul> ivoks: oh hell yes
[15:35] <ivoks> is tomorrow semi finals?
[15:35] <ivoks> or today?
[15:35] <zul> tonight
[15:36] <ivoks> must see
[15:36] <ivoks> from 3AM till 6AM
[15:36] <zul> 9:30pm for me
[15:36] <ivoks> eh...
[15:36] <zul> ivoks: were you working on a dovecot fix?
[15:36] <zroysch> http://pastebin.ca/1811915
[15:37] <zroysch> is this beyond repair?
[15:37] <ivoks> eh
[15:37] <ivoks> do you have a working md2?
[15:38] <zroysch> no, i'm trying to make it work
[15:38] <zroysch> 3
[15:38] <ivoks> if you add just sdf, will it work?
[15:38] <zroysch> its raid5
[15:38] <ivoks> of three disks?
[15:39] <zroysch> yes
[15:39] <zroysch> you were helping me a few days ago with this
[15:40] <zroysch> turns out when I dd'd the image to the backup disk, i ran out of space
[15:40] <zroysch> was like 100gb short
[15:40] <ivoks> ok
[15:40] <ivoks> so, how many disks are now in md2?
[15:40] <zroysch> md2 is not running
[15:41] <zroysch> 3 total, one doesnt even show in fdisk -l
[15:41] <ivoks> so, no disks at all?
[15:41] <zroysch> i think 1 of the remaining 2 is failed
[15:41] <ivoks> one isn't recognized by kernel at all?
[15:42] <zroysch> wait its showing up again!!
[15:43] <zroysch> oh. damn
[15:43] <zroysch> http://pastebin.ca/1811926
[15:44] <zroysch> http://pastebin.ca/1811927
[15:44] <ivoks> so, you can see all three disks?
[15:44] <zroysch> yes theyre all in fdisk -l now
[15:44] <ivoks> ok, so which one is in /dev/md2 now?
[15:44] <ivoks> sdf or sde?
[15:45] <zroysch> md2 : inactive sdf[1](S) sde[2](S)
[15:45] <ivoks> so, both are in?
[15:46] <ivoks> i guess one is empty
[15:47] <zroysch> it shouldnt be empty
[15:47] <zroysch> unless it somehow emptied itself
[15:47] <ivoks> last time you said one of the disks was faulty
[15:47] <ivoks> which one?
[15:47] <zroysch> i dont know.
[15:47] <zroysch> pretty sure theyre changing letters
[15:48] <zroysch> since originally it was sdc, d, e
[15:48] <zroysch> now its f d e
[15:48] <ivoks> they won't change letters unless you added more disks into machine
[15:49] <zroysch> yea had to unplug one (the failed one) to get the new drive on to backup to
[15:49] <ivoks> so, you did know which one failed?
[15:50] <ivoks> or you randomly took out one of the disks?
[15:50] <zroysch> i guessed
[15:51] <zroysch> its hard to tell when you cant blink one of them
[15:51] <zroysch> like a real server
[15:51] <ivoks> there's smartctl
[15:51] <ivoks> you can find out serial numbers
[15:51] <zroysch> i'll do that next time
[15:51] <ivoks> it's not that hard
[15:51] <ivoks> so, it's possible that faulty is still in, and good one is out?
[15:52] <zroysch> all 3 of the original raid5 drives are currently plugged in
[15:52] <ivoks> ok
[15:52] <ivoks> let's try assembling with sde and sdf
[15:53] <TeTeT> I have a node with alpha 3 that is failing to boot. Any ideas for debugging and finding the problem?
[15:53] <TeTeT> boots fine in recovery mode, but then hangs
[15:53] <zroysch> mdadm: /dev/md2 assembled from 1 drive - not enough to start the array.
[15:53] <ivoks> mdadm --assemble --scan
[15:54] <ivoks> TeTeT: syslog
[15:54] <zroysch> ivoks: that appears to not do anything, according to /proc/mdstat
[15:54] <ivoks> zroysch: ok
[15:54] <ivoks> zroysch: paste output to pastebin
[15:55] <ivoks> zroysch: of these commands
[15:55] <ivoks> zroysch: mdadm --query /dev/sdd
[15:55] <ivoks> zroysch: mdadm --query /dev/sde
[15:55] <ivoks> zroysch: mdadm --query /dev/sdf
[15:55] <zroysch> i just uncommented the line for my raid5 in mdadm.conf and now your assemble line is thinking
[15:55] <zroysch> ah got same message, assembled from 1 drive
[15:56] <TeTeT> ivoks: syslog says something like Feb 26 16:55:07 node01 libvirtd: 16:55:07.325: warning : lxcStartup:1755 : Unable to create cgroup for driver: No such device or address
[15:56] <ivoks> TeTeT: that's libvirtd
[15:56] <zroysch> http://pastebin.ca/1811940
[15:57] <TeTeT> ivoks: yeah, it's a node in an UEC install
[15:57] <TeTeT> ttx: did you try out UEC install with alpha 3?
[15:57] <ivoks> TeTeT: nope :/
[15:57] <ivoks> zroysch: ok, so sde and sdf have something
[15:57] <ivoks> zroysch: mdadm --examine /dev/sde
[15:57] <ttx> TeTeT: yes, during ISO testing
[15:57] <ivoks> zroysch: mdadm --examine /dev/sdf
[15:58] <TeTeT> ttx: I'll install ubuntu server plain and see if this goes any beter
[15:58] <zroysch> ivoks: http://pastebin.ca/1811941
[15:58] <ttx> TeTeT: any issue with it ?
[15:59] <TeTeT> ttx: yes, it's hanging upon boot, let me paste the syslog part
[15:59] <smoser> ttx, could you accept nomination for release bug 527208
[15:59] <ttx> the NC is hanging ?
[15:59] <ivoks> zroysch: ok, both sde and sdf are clean
[15:59] <smoser> i do explicitly want that on release radar
[15:59] <TeTeT> ttx: https://pastebin.canonical.com/28443/
[15:59] <TeTeT> ttx: right
[16:00] <ivoks> zroysch: mdadm --assemble -f /dev/md2 /dev/sde /dev/sdf
[16:00] <ttx> TeTeT: looks like a separate error
[16:00] <zroysch> ivoks: its active in mdstat
[16:00] <TeTeT> ttx: yes, I just re-install w/o UEC and see if this works
[16:00] <zroysch> try mounting?
[16:00] <ttx> TeTeT: hardware issue with sr0
[16:01] <ivoks> zroysch: paste output of mdstat
[16:01] <TeTeT> ttx: this was the server CD inserted :)
[16:01] <zroysch> md2 : active raid5 sdf[1] sde[2]
[16:01] <zroysch>       1953524992 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [3/2] [_UU]
[16:01] <ttx> TeTeT: that doesn't prevent CD readers from failing
[16:01] <ivoks> zroysch: ok, try adding sdd
[16:01] <ttx> TeTeT: try with a USB key ?
[16:01] <ivoks> zroysch: mdadm /dev/md2 --add /dev/sdd
[16:01] <TeTeT> ttx: let me check the CD, maybe it's corrupted
[16:01] <ttx> TeTeT: the warnings above it are probably harmless
[16:02] <TeTeT> ttx: is there an image for USB key for the server?
[16:02] <ttx> smoser: done
[16:02] <zroysch> ivoks: oh. now its recovering
[16:02] <zroysch> kinda scary
[16:03] <ivoks> it'll just sync sdd
[16:03] <ivoks> if that fails, you'll have sde and sdf
[16:03] <zroysch> right, im just fearful that more than one drive is dying
[16:03] <smoser> thanks, ttx.
[16:04] <zroysch> ivoks:  i was told that partimage is good for backing up partitions, something about it leaving out the blank space?
[16:05] <ivoks> zroysch: i doubt that
[16:06] <zroysch> so dd is the best.
[16:06] <zroysch> is there any way to compress on the fly so i can backup to a 1gb drive?
[16:06] <ivoks> zroysch: well, you could use partimage
[16:06] <ivoks> and use compression
[16:06] <ivoks> that way empty space would be preserved, but won't take space in image
[16:07] <zroysch> i see
[16:08] <zroysch> well the rebuild will be done in 478.7minutes! i guess i'll wait until thats finished
[16:11] <smoser> erichammond, ping
[16:15] <sherr> zroysch: clonezilla might be worth looking at for imaging a disk/part/MD. It can compress and save space.
[16:15] <zroysch> sherr: hmm i have a clonezilla disk around here somewhere.
[16:16] <sherr> zroysch: I'd let the sync complete first of course
[16:16] <zroysch> right
[16:16] <sherr> zroysch: hopefully complete .. :-)
[16:16] <zroysch> yea crossing everything at this point
[16:23] <TeTeT> is euca_conf --discover-nodes --no-rsync broken right now?
[16:31] <zul> ivoks: i uploaded your patch for bacula btw
[16:31] <ivoks> zul: ok, great
[17:03] <mathiaz> ivoks: hi - what's the state of the cluster stack?
[17:04] <kirkland> cjwatson: hi, around?  I'm working on a surgical debconf change in eucalyptus
[17:04] <mathiaz> ivoks: is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-lucid-cluster-stack up-to-date wrt to ubuntu-10.04-beta-1 work items?
[17:04] <kirkland> cjwatson: could use a second set of eyes
[17:04] <cjwatson> kirkland: meeting, but send me a diff
[17:04] <kirkland> cjwatson: if you're not around, i'll just link a branch to the bug
[17:04] <kirkland> cjwatson: ack, will do
[17:05] <mathiaz> kirkland: have you heard about promovox: http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Main_Page?
[17:05] <kirkland> mathiaz: yeah
[17:05] <ivoks> mathiaz: hi
[17:05] <ivoks> mathiaz: i'm waiting for MIRs to get to Fix released state
[17:06] <mathiaz> ivoks: there are bunch of them them that have already been fix committed
[17:06] <mathiaz> ivoks: do you need to seed any of them?
[17:06] <mathiaz> ivoks: or moving one package into main will pull all the rest?
[17:07] <ivoks> mathiaz: moving pacemaker would pull them all in
[17:07] <ivoks> mathiaz: having them in main asap would mean having FFE for rhcs sooner
[17:08] <ivoks> mathiaz: but i'm still waiting for green light on cluster-glue and cluster-agents
[17:11]  * ivoks needs coffee
[17:12] <mathiaz> ivoks: ok - once cluster-glue and cluster-agents have their MIR accepted, what's left?
[17:12] <mathiaz> ivoks: upload a new version of rhcs that build with pacemaker?
[17:13] <ivoks> mathiaz: accepted MIRs for pacemaker and heartbeat (kees already gave +1)
[17:13] <kirkland> cjwatson: what's the best way to just print the value of a debconf database value from a command line?
[17:13] <kirkland> cjwatson: i just want to see if this db val is set properly
[17:13] <mathiaz> ivoks: which packages from the MIR list need to be seeded?
[17:13] <ivoks> mathiaz: then just rebuild rhcs with support for pacemaker, so that we get gfs2 for pacemaker
[17:13] <cjwatson> kirkland: echo GET foo/bar | sudo debconf-communicate
[17:13] <ivoks> mathiaz: seeded? for cluster task in tasksel?
[17:14] <cjwatson> kirkland: or 'debconf-show <package name>'
[17:14] <mathiaz> ivoks: nope - to move the packages in main
[17:14] <kirkland> cjwatson: cheers
[17:14] <ivoks> mathiaz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClusterStack/MIR
[17:14] <mathiaz> ivoks: in order to make the move to main the packages need to be either seeded or be pulled in by another package
[17:14] <ivoks> mathiaz: pacemaker would pull them all in
[17:15] <mathiaz> ivoks: and rhcs would build depend on paceamker?
[17:15] <ivoks> mathiaz: yes
[17:15] <ivoks> mathiaz: pacemaker-dev
[17:15] <mathiaz> ivoks: allright then
[17:15] <mathiaz> ivoks: and what's the state of drbd?
[17:15] <ivoks> mathiaz: FFE is waiting for someone to tak a look at it
[17:16] <ivoks> take
[17:16] <mathiaz> ivoks: ok
[17:16] <mathiaz> ivoks: has the FFE for rhcs already been filed?
[17:16] <ivoks> mathiaz: no, i didn't fill it cause it would build-dep on pacemaker, which is in universe now
[17:17] <ivoks> mathiaz: i fiugred that there's no point in doing that before pacemaker is in main
[17:17] <mathiaz> ivoks: well - better start early
[17:17] <ivoks> mathiaz: ok, i'll fill it tomorrow
[17:18] <ivoks> file
[17:18] <ivoks> mathiaz: regarding dovecot
[17:18] <ivoks> mathiaz: it now supports conf.d, so we could move all our config into one file
[17:19] <mathiaz> ivoks: which version?
[17:19] <ivoks> the one in lucid
[17:22] <mathiaz> ivoks: you mean to merge dovecot-postfix.conf into dovecot.conf ?
[17:22] <ivoks> mathiaz: no, put dovecot-postfix.conf into /etc/dovecot/conf.d/
[17:23] <ivoks> mathiaz: dovecot.conf will read it if it's there
[17:23] <mathiaz> ivoks: ah ok!
[17:23] <mathiaz> ivoks: how does overrides work?
[17:23] <ivoks> sorry, my brain is slow
[17:23] <ivoks> mathiaz: everything works except auth
[17:23] <ivoks> but auth can be renamed
[17:23] <mathiaz> ivoks: ie what happens if there is a service already defined in dovecot.conf and redefined in conf.d/dovecot-postfix.cong?
[17:24] <ivoks> second is used
[17:24] <ivoks> that's the whole idea
[17:24] <ivoks> lda doesn't work that way
[17:25] <ivoks> but that's not that bad, cause we will point lda to right location in postfix's config
[17:25] <ivoks> anyway, i have it all sorted out, i just need to do it
[17:25] <mathiaz> ivoks: hm - I'm not sure that would help solve the issue
[17:26] <mathiaz> ivoks: the problem is that people try to edit dovecot.conf and it doesn't work
[17:26] <kirkland> cjwatson: I *think* this is what I need (untested) ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/384506/
[17:26] <mathiaz> ivoks: because dovecot-postfix.conf is used instead
[17:26] <mathiaz> ivoks: using conf.d/ would just move the problem
[17:26] <mathiaz> ivoks: people would try to edit dovecot.conf and things would not work
[17:26] <ivoks> mathiaz: this will be exactly the same as apache2.conf and /etc/apache2/conf.d
[17:27] <mathiaz> ivoks: right - it depends on how dovecot.conf is built
[17:27] <ivoks> s/will/would/
[17:27] <mathiaz> ivoks: IIRC apache2.conf doesn't have anything defined in it
[17:27] <mathiaz> ivoks: or rather things are only defined in conf.d
[17:27] <ivoks> mathiaz: oh, it does have
[17:27] <cjwatson> kirkland: that looks OK to me
[17:27] <ivoks> conf.d overrides it
[17:27] <cjwatson> kirkland: nit: s/it's/its/ :-)
[17:27] <mathiaz> ivoks: the most important point here is that options should *not* be defined in two different places
[17:28] <ivoks> mathiaz: i understand
[17:28] <kirkland> cjwatson: can you confirm that eucalyptus/cloud-address should be set correctly when eucalyptus-udeb.finish-install runs on the CLC install?
[17:28] <ivoks> mathiaz: idealy, dovecot.conf could be split into couple of small configs in conf.d
[17:28] <cjwatson> kirkland: oh, you should copy the stanza for eucalyptus/cloud-address from eucalyptus-udeb.templates to eucalyptus-cc.templates
[17:28] <mathiaz> ivoks: exactly
[17:28] <kirkland> cjwatson: ack
[17:28] <cjwatson> kirkland: yes, it will
[17:28] <mathiaz> ivoks: conf.d/pop3.conf, conf.d/imap.conf, conf.d/auth
[17:29] <ivoks> mathiaz: but that leaves us with problem of providing custom config that overrides it
[17:29] <mathiaz> ivoks: yop - it's the same problem again
[17:29] <cjwatson> kirkland: oh, wait, not quite
[17:29] <ivoks> mathiaz: we need interface like postconf
[17:29] <mathiaz> ivoks: yeah - something like that
[17:29] <kirkland> cjwatson: looks like it's available in eucalyptus-udeb.postinst
[17:30] <cjwatson> kirkland: not quite, one moment
[17:30] <mathiaz> ivoks: may we should drop dovecot-postfix.conf for lucid (as it's an LTS) and revisit the issue for L+1?
[17:30] <cjwatson> kirkland: you want http://paste.ubuntu.com/384509/ as well
[17:30] <ivoks> mathiaz: what about those that already have it installed?
[17:30] <mathiaz> ivoks: the current dovecot-postfix configuration makes upstream unhappy
[17:31] <ivoks> mathiaz: i'm aware of that
[17:31] <mathiaz> ivoks: hmm.. existing users can just keep their configuration
[17:32] <mathiaz> ivoks: and we can delete the dovecot-postfix package on upgrade via update-manager
[17:32] <ivoks> mathiaz: not really; config changed
[17:32] <mathiaz> ivoks: under the assumption that nothing is done to configuration files when dovecot-postfix is removed
[17:33] <mathiaz> ivoks: hm - right - if we drop dovecot-postfix then the init script would pick up the wrong file
[17:33] <kirkland> cjwatson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/384506/
[17:33] <ivoks> mathiaz: and dovecot-postfix.conf from karmic wouldn't work with dovecot from lucid
[17:33] <ivoks> mathiaz: cause config scheme changed a bit
[17:34] <cjwatson> kirkland: that's the same as your previous link
[17:34] <kirkland> cjwatson: gah, http://paste.ubuntu.com/384513/
[17:34] <ivoks> mathiaz: i'll figure out something during the weekend
[17:34] <mathiaz> ivoks: hm - so even if we kept dovecot-postfix for lucid, we'd still need to mangle the configuration to upgrade to lucid?
[17:35] <ivoks> mathiaz: yes, iirc, yes
[17:35] <cjwatson> kirkland: hm, maybe ditch the long description from the copy of the template in eucalyptus-cc.templates since it makes less sense there, but otherwise LGTM
[17:35] <kirkland> cjwatson: thanks
[17:36] <mathiaz> ivoks: hm... seems that the first step is to figure out what the new conf.d/ integration could look like
[17:36] <mathiaz> ivoks: and then see how to handle upgrade/conversion of the dovecot-postfix configuration
[17:41] <ivoks> mathiaz: building two dovecot binaries that would conflict each other isn't an option, right? :D
[17:45] <mco1> hello
[17:45] <mco1> I just upgraded samba to 3.4.0 and now encounter various problems.
[17:45] <mco1> I use samba as a domain controller, and now the Windows XP machines say the domain controller isn't available, while the windows 7 machines say access denied.
[17:45] <mco1> The shares seem to work, though.
[17:45] <mco1> smbstatus or testparm don't give any noticeable errors.
[17:47] <ivoks> take care
[17:55] <mco1> i already read about some common errors at: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/samba-pdc.html#id2562489
[17:55] <mco1> but that didnt help
[18:05] <trinity33> hi anyone here?
[18:08] <mco1> yeah, but looking for help myself.
[18:09] <mco1> what do you need?
[18:11] <trinity33> i need to know few things:)
[18:14] <trinity33> forst one is use msigt725 laptop its high spec very good one whats happen is when i restart karmic in the beginning there is no cpu or ram use cpu is like 1% and 60mb ram used cpu spes q90002,4ghz and ddr2 4gb so when i restart my lappy there is not usage after i log in but after i open different applications mozilla sound players etc etc my
[18:14] <trinity33> my cpu is going to 40% 50% and ram to 1gb and doesnt stop
[18:15] <mdeslaur> soren: bug #528027 still present :(
[18:15] <trinity33> it look like applications i start use ram and cpu and when i close them
[18:15] <trinity33> they dont release my ram or cpu
[18:15] <trinity33> every app i open use new part of ram in the  end i need torestart
[18:15] <trinity33> so any advice?
[18:17] <mco1> never heard of that before, sorry.
[18:17] <trinity33> :(
[18:17] <trinity33> second question
[18:18] <trinity33> i have double sound card
[18:18] <trinity33> acl1200 analog digital and hd48x0 ati hdmi i cant make it work
[18:18] <trinity33> tried everything many imes
[18:19] <trinity33> 10 times fresh ubuntu install different drivers and nothing has changed
[18:19] <trinity33> i have 5 speakers inside but max i got was broken analog trough one speaker
[18:19] <trinity33> is there any way to make it work?
[18:20] <trinity33> when i plug in externel speakers then the sound is wokring propelly
[18:20] <trinity33> and it doesnt from internal speakers dont knwo why
[18:21] <mco1> hm. this does sound more like questions for the #ubuntu channel
[18:21] <trinity33> so soud like what?
[18:21] <trinity33> i dont use ubuntu?
[18:22] <mco1> you use ubuntu server and have that kind of problems?
[18:22] <trinity33> karmic is ubuntu right? my sound doesnt work under kamic if it was under win7 them microsoft forum
[18:23] <trinity33> so where i can look for help?
[18:23] <mco1> #ubuntu
[18:23] <mco1> without the "-server" part
[18:23] <trinity33> aha ok so my ubuntu is a server one as far as i know why are i asking me to go to ubuntu?
[18:26] <mco1> I'm sorry. Your problems just did seem like desktop-problems, not server ones.
[18:27] <guntbert> mco1: because its not common to have multimedia issues on servers
[18:27] <mco1> Exactly.
[18:27] <mco1> Still, I need help with my samba primary domain controller. Anyone interested in helping?
[18:29] <guntbert> mco1: i'm interested in the problem but due to lack of samba knowledge I cannot help
[18:29] <mco1> Thanks for responding, anyways.
[18:59] <sub> anyone here got a list of auditctl rules i can use as a baseline?
[18:59] <sub> or know of*
[19:05] <pmatulis> to change fqdn do i need to change sysctl values for both kernel.hostname and kernel.domainname ?  what i'm reading says just the former
[19:15] <kirkland> nxvl: ping
[19:16] <kirkland> nxvl: i see you're maintaining terminator?
[19:16] <nxvl> kirkland: pong
[19:16] <nxvl> kirkland: yup
[19:16] <kirkland> nxvl: and i see that it's pycentral?
[19:16] <nxvl> kirkland: that's my fault :D
[19:16] <kirkland> nxvl: heh, i have a question
[19:16] <nxvl> IIRC, yes
[19:16] <kirkland> nxvl: i'm working on a different package, also pycentral
[19:16] <kirkland> nxvl: i'm trying to build an empty transitional package
[19:17] <nxvl> although i didn't actually package it, just tweaked the packaging a little bit
[19:17] <kirkland> nxvl: but when i add that to debian/control, and rebuild, the main binary package is now basically empty
[19:17] <nxvl> that's weird
[19:17] <nxvl> i had the same issue with augeas
[19:17] <nxvl> i fixed it...
[19:17] <nxvl> one sec
[19:17] <kirkland> nxvl: is it pycentral?
[19:17] <kirkland> nxvl: and has a transitional package?
[19:17] <nxvl> no, that's C
[19:18] <nxvl> ah, now i remember
[19:18] <nxvl> the issue i had at that time was that there wasn't .install files
[19:18] <kirkland> nxvl: right, same problem here
[19:18] <nxvl> so the packaging was just ignoring it as an empty package
[19:19] <nxvl> once i create the .install packages i started getting stuff into the packages
[19:19] <nxvl> because when it is a multiple binary package it needs to start deciding which of the files go to which binary
[19:20] <nxvl> if there isn't a way to decide that it simply doesn't add anything
[19:20] <kirkland> nxvl: it kind of defeats the purpose of pycentral, though doesn't it?
[19:21] <nxvl> kindof, i didn't had that problem with terminator because it a single binary package, so i don't really know how to do that
[19:21] <kirkland> nxvl: right
[19:21] <kirkland> thanks
[19:21] <nxvl> i'm just telling you my experience with augeas, where i've a multiple binary package and saw that issue
[19:21] <nxvl> but, it isn't pycentral, is C
[19:22] <nxvl> the one that should know is pochu, i'm not sure if he is still around -motu, but you can find him in #debian-python @ oftc usally
[19:22] <nxvl> he is indeed in -motu
[19:24] <mco1> Still, I need help with my samba primary domain controller. Anyone interested in helping?
[19:39] <mod> can a / partition be successfully copied with 'cp --preserveall'?  And /proc and /dev will come out right?
[19:42] <Insyte> mod: I don't think so, no.
[19:42] <Insyte> For example, /proc is not a real filesystem.
[19:42] <_ruben> i tend to exclude stuff like /dev /sys /proc when copying complete systems
[19:43] <Insyte> In my experience, "rsync -a" is better at capturing sockets, symlinks, etc.
[19:43] <Insyte> And /dev is udev managed (plus all the virtual filesystems under it are also not something you'd want to cp).
[19:44] <Insyte> "rsync -ax /" would be a good starting point.
[19:44] <Insyte> (It won't descend into the various strange filesystems.)
[19:46] <mod> what about tar?
[19:47] <Insyte> Hmmm... I haven't experimented with much for this kind of thing.
[19:47] <Insyte> But I'm sure it would be better than cp.
[19:48] <mod> i have a / fileystem i want install on a partition that slightly smaller
[19:48] <mod> i/2
[19:49] <Insyte> You want to move it to a different partition?
[19:49] <Insyte> You can't just resize the one it's on?
[19:49] <mod> sorta the last resort
[19:49] <Insyte> Which?
[19:49] <mod> gparted gui doesn't show blocks, just MB
[19:50] <mod> hmm maybe the cmdline does
[19:51] <Insyte> I would just use the CLI tools.
[19:51] <Insyte> What filesystem?  Ext3?
[19:55] <mod> boot and root are ext4
[19:55] <mod> this is a new 9.10 system
[19:57] <sherr> Insyte: you can cp a filesystem like / OK (I did it last night). Use something like : cp -dpRx / /mnt/newroot
[19:57] <Insyte> Good to hear; I've had some bad experiences in the past so I tend to shy away from it.
[19:58] <Insyte> Although they were probably with non-Gnu cp... :)
[20:24] <mod> is ther a way to specify blocks when resizing with gparted?
[20:25] <mod> er sorry,  parted (not gparted)
[20:25] <mod> so that I can synch things up with output i see from fdism
[20:25] <mod> fdisk
[20:28] <mod> argh
[20:29] <Insyte> The math is pretty straightforward.
[20:29] <mod> it lists it in 10ths of gigabytes
[20:29] <mod> its not exact enough
[20:29] <mod> parted that is
[20:30] <mod> i.e the filesystem i need to shrink is 10.7, and the tarted is 10.2
[20:30] <mod> in fdisk i can see block sizes
[20:30] <mod> were this a blank disk I could do this just in fdisk
[20:30] <Insyte> Have you already shrunk the filesystem?
[20:30] <mod> no
[20:30] <mod> i want to shrink it to the right size
[20:30] <Insyte> I've done it this way:
[20:30] <mod> oooooh
[20:30] <Insyte> Boot into a rescue cd
[20:31] <mod> yeah there...
[20:31] <Insyte> Shrink the fs (resize2fs)
[20:31] <mod> shrink it too small
[20:31] <mod> copy it in
[20:31] <Insyte> No
[20:31] <mod> and expand to fill the partition?
[20:31] <Insyte> Shrink in place.
[20:31] <Insyte> Then resize the filesystem.
[20:31] <mod> resize to what size?
[20:31] <Insyte> s/filesystem/partition/
[20:31] <Insyte> Then grow the filesystem.
[20:31] <Insyte> No need to copy it back and forth; just resize in place.
[20:32] <mod> i have to copy the filesystem over at some point to the target drive
[20:32] <mod> the problem gaina, is that the src fs is too large on a larger partition
[20:32] <Insyte> shrink the fs
[20:32] <Insyte> in place
[20:32] <Insyte> That's what "resize2fs" is for.
[20:45] <soren> mdeslaur: Can you show me the exact command line you're using now? And any config files as well.
[20:52] <mdeslaur> soren: http://paste.ubuntu.com/384658/
[20:52] <mdeslaur> soren: which config files?
[20:53] <soren> mdeslaur: If you need to ask, none.
[20:53] <soren> :)
[20:53] <mdeslaur> soren: hehe :)
[20:55] <soren> mdeslaur: Err.. It works in bzr, and I don't think I touched that after I released 0.12.1, but I agree it doesn't work with the packages. Very odd.
[20:56] <soren> mdeslaur: Oh, hang on.
[20:56] <soren> mdeslaur: No, it's not.
[20:56] <soren> bug #528027
[20:57] <soren> mdeslaur: It was never marked Fix Released.
[20:58]  * mdeslaur hangs head in shame
[20:58] <soren> bug updated. :)
[20:59] <mdeslaur> soren: I'm really sorry about that...for some reason, I thought 12.1 was the fixed version
[21:00] <soren> mdeslaur: No worries. No more than a couple of minutes wasted.
[21:01] <mdeslaur> soren: I owe you 4 minutes and/or UDS beer
[21:07] <soren> mdeslaur: Rock 'n' roll.
[21:10] <kringell> i am trying to recursively chown some dir's and files, however it wont traverse down because of bad directorynames (blank spaces and such). How can pass this hurdle? Or, what should i google and read up on..
[21:11] <guntbert> kringell: chown -R ?
[21:13] <kringell> yes... :D
[21:13] <kringell> sorry to bother
[21:14] <kringell> problem it's always at the most stupid point
[21:14] <kringell> /s/it's/is/
[21:14] <kringell> thanks
[21:15] <_ruben> if that's the solution, i wonder how you tried to accomplish it in the first place? :)
[21:16] <kringell> _ruben: i had troubles with tose dirs earlier, because of their naming, now i was stuck in that mindset and missed the "-R"
[21:17] <kringell> see, troubleshooting the connection for an hour just to realize the cable is unplugged
[21:41] <soren> mdeslaur: 0.12.2 uploaded.
[21:46] <melter> is this the right place to discuss server lucid alpha 3?
[21:50] <Insyte> Is there somewhere I can look to figure out how the netboot kernel was built for a particular release?
[21:50] <Insyte> Which drivers are built in, etc.
[21:55] <Insyte> I suspect I may need to add an additional driver to the initrd.
[22:19] <ribo> I'm guessing ubuntu karmic won't work with the 2.6.20 kernel becuase mountall requires something that .20 doesn't put in /proc
[22:19] <ribo> yes?
[22:20] <lamont> I'd be very surprised if it did
[22:20] <lamont> it didn't really like the jaunty kernel very much, for that matter
[22:20] <ribo> mountall has now killed two little projects of mine :/
[22:23] <ribo> is there anyway to not use mountall
[22:23] <lamont> dunno
[22:38] <Insyte> OK, I've established that I'm missing some drivers from the netboot initrd.gz.  Is there an easy way to get them without rebuilding that version of the kernel?
[22:40] <Insyte> I see the udebs are in the /pool.  Is it, perhaps, the generic-di kernel?