[04:34] <duncanidaho1> is it possible to upgrade Ubuntu 9.10 to Ubuntu 9.10 studio?
[04:35] <meganerd> yes
[04:37] <Blank__> probably
[04:37] <Blank__> although 9.10 studio is a bit buggy
[04:37] <Blank__> ALSA is partly broken, the login screen
[04:37] <duncanidaho1> I just finished getting this install just the way I like it
[04:37] <Blank__> the login screen is featureless in mine*
[04:37] <meganerd> 9.10 works fine for me
[04:38] <Blank__> i upgraded from studio 9.04 and alsa broke
[04:38] <Blank__> and the usplash has been broken both on my upgraded computer and on a fresh install
[04:38] <duncanidaho1> Is there much difference in using studio vs. regular and just downloading cinelerra and other media applications?
[04:39] <Blank__> only real differences that i've seen are the -rt kernel, process priority changes, lack of sounds in gnome theme, addition of ubuntu studio control program to help with raw1394 access and memory limits
[04:39] <Blank__> (oh and nice)
[04:40] <duncanidaho1> do you guys do video editing?
[04:45] <Blank__> sorta
[04:45] <Blank__> afaik the stuff in linux isn't quite there yet
[04:46] <duncanidaho1> yeah, I was hoping you wouldn't say that
[04:47] <Blank__> it's getting closer
[04:48] <Blank__> things like kdenlive are getting better, less likely to crash randomly
[04:48] <duncanidaho1> what about cinelerra?
[04:48] <Blank__> i havent used it in a long time
[04:48] <Blank__> i'm not sure whether to go that or the CV
[04:49] <duncanidaho1> I've switched over to using linux (ubuntu) all except for adobe CS3 where a dual boot back to windows vista
[04:49] <Blank__> depending on what CS3 things you use, you might be able to wine them - i know photoshop works
[04:50] <Blank__> wineasio might fix things with audition, if you use it
[04:50] <Blank__> but premiere pro wouldn't work i'm guessing
[04:50] <duncanidaho1> yeah but I don't think after effects or premiere pro works well with wine...at least not that I"m aware of
[04:50] <Blank__> as much as it pains me to say, the adobe suite is very powerful
[04:51] <duncanidaho1> yep
[04:51] <Blank__> the main thing stopping me from using linux for audio full time is the fact that audition does so many things nothing else does
[04:51] <duncanidaho1> what about pro-tools?
[04:51] <Blank__> centre channel extraction? nothing else has that
[04:51] <Blank__> i hate pro tools
[04:51] <duncanidaho1> (not that it works with linux)
[04:51] <Blank__> with a passion
[04:51] <Blank__> :p
[04:52] <Blank__> i use cubase in windows
[04:52] <Blank__> and ardour in linux
[04:52] <duncanidaho1> really? hmm...I'm not much of an audio guy...but I've never heard anyone prefer audition to pro tools
[04:52] <Blank__> oh, i primarily edit things
[04:52] <Blank__> and pro tools isn't for that
[04:52] <Blank__> single wav files etc
[04:52] <Blank__> audio restoration, frequency analysis... audition is amazing for that stuff
[04:53] <Blank__> im sure if i had a spare $15000 i could buy pro tools and all the plugins that do the same thing as audition, but i don't so audition will do
[04:53] <duncanidaho1> i see
[04:54] <duncanidaho1> is audition in cs4?
[04:54] <Blank__> i'm not sure...
[04:54] <Blank__> i've had CS2 for as long as i can remember and havent needed to upgrade
[04:54] <duncanidaho1> it might have been combined into Soundbooth
[04:54] <duncanidaho1> I don't know
[05:39] <meganerd> I left Cubase for Linux.  SX (1) was a pig and performed poorly on 2000/XP
[05:45] <Blank__> yeah, did you know the copy protection in cubase makes thousands of extra calls for something as simple as a single calculation?
[05:46] <meganerd> yup
[05:46] <meganerd> the guys who pirated SX 3 mentioned that.  I was actually one of those rare payed SX customers
[05:46] <meganerd> I just gave away my copy
[05:46] <Blank__> i have no idea why i stick with it to be honest
[05:47] <Blank__> ardour does so much already
[05:50] <meganerd> I use a mix of apps, rosegarden usually for midi, ardour for the mixing, and a mix of other apps here and there
[05:50] <meganerd> about 8 years ago I left the Windows world nearly completly
[05:51] <meganerd> You get used to a particular work flow, that is hardest part
[12:35] <damnit123_> can some one tell me if I bring 9.10 online and update it will it fix FFADO and or Firewire problems Ive experinced with Phase 24 FW sound device ??
[12:36] <damnit123_> my FW HCI is supopsed to be supported its a VIA.
[12:36] <damnit123_> and the phase 24 "Fully Supported"
[12:38] <damnit123_> I swear the IEEE1394 stuff in the 2.4.31-rt kernel is buggered up for HCI but i just dont how to prove it
[12:38] <damnit123_> for my HCI**
[12:41] <damnit123_> well apart from the messages in DMESG which come up saying "Doh Some one wants to mess with set state"  in relation to the ieee1394
[12:49] <damnit123_> ;( this is fucking depresing 2010 no maudio cards work decently except for the asshole revolutions,  every thing else that is supported sounds like shit and hardly Professional grade any way .. that has to be to the biggest fuck up in the linux/sound world ever considering
[12:50] <damnit123_> I have it good advisal that MAUDIO gave the alsa devs every thing they needed to make it work.. they just fucked up the Audiophile192 .. plan and simple
[12:50] <damnit123_> then proceeded to not do anything for what ... niegh on 10 years
[12:50] <damnit123_> $£%^Y%&*%^@!£$%~!£
[12:50] <damnit123_> 67
[12:50] <damnit123_> 456"$Y&
[13:03] <damnit123_> If there are any devs here pls release a another image of karmic with a upgraded ffado and kernel > 2.6.31
[13:12] <damnit123_> ass sacks in #ubuntu need to be clearing out their filthy isp wide bans that are preventing legit and innocent people from getting support
[13:12] <damnit123_> dflsdkgldfmkbl;k
[13:32] <damnit123_> meganerd .. the fucking crumby windows world .. gets on my tits every second off my life that pass's by and I dont even use it
[13:33] <damnit123_> that is why linux's user share of the OS market its going to fuck them over in the end
[13:35] <damnit123_> stupid jack ass sound card makers that think they going to creme it in via M$ users .. i dare to say that those days are over for them .. and the joke thing to me is every one will now suffer as a result of their fing m$ lub/arrogance
[13:36] <damnit123_> ./greed
[13:39] <damnit123_> heh .. to me the idea of making these dsps and putting them on pci cards .. with out having the architecture to make a audio processor out of the a PC is just taking the piss.. and windows can barely do it .. with out some million mega hz and 3423952352349GBs of ram and 20 years of pissing arround you might get shitty soundsolution and some vsts to work
[13:40] <damnit123_> big fucking whoop hardly a audio processor
[13:47] <damnit123_> hardly a sensible enviroment for that setup any way
[14:03] <damnit123_> heh .. guess guys like me are just doomed to put up with ppls malfunctioning shit for the rest of time ;(
[14:03] <damnit123_> Big in the game right on !"@!
[14:14] <damnit123_> i wonder if some one with the balls, can make a soundcard specifically tailored for linux, and linux musicians, and architectuarly make it compatible only with linux kernels,  some one who can do that and make a clean £100k or even £50k and refuse m$ devs access to its specs and make it some how specifically ileagal for the card to be operated by a microslop system
[14:51] <rlameiro> anyone knows how to extract photos from a video in linux?
[14:51] <damnit123_> dvgrab
[14:52] <rlameiro> damnit123_: thks
[14:53] <rlameiro> damnit123_: isnt it to capture from the camera? I am trying to do it from a .mov file I have on my computer
[14:53] <rlameiro> stochastic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNsOtl8ia0k
[14:54] <damnit123_> hm cant mplayer or something dump frames??
[14:55] <rlameiro> hmmm it should , but is there some front end?
[14:55] <rlameiro> I dont want to be guessing the frame number for the frame I want...
[14:57] <damnit123_> menucoder>
[14:57] <damnit123_> ?
[14:59] <rlameiro> damnit123_: menucoder? mencoder?
[15:00] <jussi01> !info avidemux | rlameiro
[15:00] <damnit123_> mplayer -vo jpeg -frames 1 -ss <offset which gets you to the appropriate
[15:00] <damnit123_> point in the video>
[15:00] <jussi01> avidemux does it well iirc
[15:01] <rlameiro> humm
[15:01] <rlameiro> avidemux
[15:01] <rlameiro> will try that now
[15:01] <damnit123_> yes thats it i knew there was that one
[15:03] <jussi01> damnit123_: btw, in regards to your rant before, 2 things. 1. Have you tried alessio's lowlatency kernel?  2. please try keep the searing to a minimum. :)
[15:04] <damnit123_> sry m8
[15:04] <damnit123_> i know that was some rant but you know this linux sound game is deep
[15:04] <damnit123_> too deep :D
[15:06] <jussi01> damnit123_: yeah, but this channel is supposed to be family friendly ;) (and I suspect your ban in #ubuntu has something to do with your realname and ident)
[15:06] <damnit123_> i get so mad trying to fend off the windows drones that i have to put up with trying to destroy my gardens of tranquility
[15:06] <damnit123_> let me see..
[15:08] <jussi01> damnit123_: alessio's kernels reside in https://edge.launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa so maybe you want to try those
[15:08] <niceguy> .
[15:09] <jussi01> damnit321: your ident...
[15:09] <jussi01> hrm
[15:09] <damnit321> aha .. so is that server side anti swearing controls or something lol
[15:10] <jussi01> damnit321: Id suggest have a read of ubuntu's irc guidelines or youll likely get banned in there - they are pretty strict
[15:10] <jussi01> !guidelines
[15:11] <jussi01> damnit321: about the kernel from alessio
[15:11] <jussi01> [17:05:47] <jussi01> abogani: could you remind me where is your low latency kernel if users want to test?
[15:11] <jussi01> [17:07:35] <abogani> jussi01: Hi Jussi, On my https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa users could find the updated lowlatency and rt kernels.
[15:11] <jussi01> [17:07:52] <jussi01> abogani: and they are working on 9.10?
[15:11] <jussi01> [17:08:41] <abogani> jussi01: Yes but you should install it manually (and also take care of dependencies)
[15:11] <jussi01> [17:09:18] <abogani> For Lucid is sufficient add the PPA into apt as usual and go with apt-get.
[15:12] <damnit321> tnx I'll give it a try
[15:12] <jussi01> damnit321: as he said, do it manually if you are on karmic
[15:13] <damnit321> I havnt built a 2.6 kernel in over a year
[15:13] <damnit321> i bet ive forgeten loads of stuff
[15:13] <jussi01> damnit321: no, its from the package
[15:13] <jussi01> but dont add the ppa to your repo
[15:14] <jussi01> just sudo dpkg -i package
[15:35] <damnit321> jussi01 i'm going to get the offender
[15:35] <jussi01> hrm?
[15:35] <damnit321> will you be arround to hold my hand
[15:35] <damnit321> ;)?
[15:36] <jussi01> damnit321: no, Im just headed to the shop - back later though
[15:36] <damnit321> ok come back .. I will get the box install 32 ustudio and try and put the alesio kernel on it
[15:57] <damnit321> how do you finish registering your nick if you dont have email
[23:04] <duncanidaho1> has anyone ever had flash problems where you can't click on a button
[23:13] <stochastic> Would anyone know where I can find a 3D blender model of the Ubuntu symbol?