[00:06] <pdg1> anybody a clue on how to configure vsftpd? or a similar FTP server daemon? :P
[00:08] <pdg1> does anyone still use FTP :P?
[00:22] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hey Subspider
[00:22] <subspider> hello Sachse_Siechtum how are you man
[00:23] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'm feeling really good. :-) Good judo training today. :-)
[00:24] <Sachse_Siechtum> and played some europe in ruins...was fun even when we lost. :-)
[00:28] <Sachse_Siechtum> subspider how was your day?
[00:33] <subspider> terrible
[00:33] <subspider> hey Sachse_Siechtum and your work did you find any??
[00:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> well I got my application back 2 days ago. They didnt take me. :-( so off writing new ones...
[00:39] <Sachse_Siechtum> subspider why terrible?
[02:12] <john> Hi - I am running Xubuntu 9.10 with an Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Card - it seems that the video acceleration is much slower than if I were to run Windows XP using Intel's Drivers - are there any good sources for me to find reliable drivers for the hardware outside of using the Hardware Drivers Menu?
[02:42] <SD|UPN|FA> hey, I was looking for something to install on my old laptop from '98. It's got 153 MB Ram (I am not 100% sure of that figure) and a pentium II processor, with a 4.3gb HD
[02:43] <SD|UPN|FA> would Xubuntu work? or is it a litle too old?
[02:55] <rivals> hi!
[02:56] <rivals> anyone set up dual monitors in 9.10?
[02:57] <rivals> no?
[02:57] <rivals> cant be done?
[03:12] <Sachse_Siechtum> I dunno
[03:13] <Sachse_Siechtum> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dual-monitors-with-nvidia.html
[03:49] <rivals> oh cool, another howto telling you to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:50] <rivals> i file that doesnt even exist
[03:50] <rivals> can this distro get any more awesome?
[03:50] <rivals> Sachse_Siechtum: thanks anyway
[03:51] <rivals> i've been reading and stuffing around for hours on soemthing that should be a 5minute config
[03:52] <rivals> how in the name of zeus did this distro become so popular?
[03:52] <rivals> rm -rf /
[03:52] <rivals> back to suse
[03:54] <bazhang> !xrandr
[03:54] <bazhang> whoops
[03:56] <jurek_> too late
[03:57] <jurek_> 1:0 for Suse :-(
[05:09] <confusious> hello all
[05:31] <Balsaq> good morning xubuntu coders,engineers,developers and certified non techs....
[05:34] <Balsaq> why is it, that when i choose the best driver for my nvidia mx420 video card, that it produces acceptable full screen pictures, but makes the icon on my desktop appear to be stretched? and if i auot configure it thru xubuntu my desktop icons and small screen vids are good, but full screen vids are in slow motion?
[05:35] <Balsaq> si went back to the xubuntu configuration becasue it make everything look good except the full screen vids...
[05:41] <confusious> Balsaq {heh,heh.Great anme,dude.VERY funny}I wish I could help you my friend.You've always tried to help me & that's much appreciated.But,now,I seem to have another problem of my own..................
[05:42] <confusious> Help !! Please !!  I a am attempting to "save" this {untitled} document which I have created with the "notepad" program of xubuntu's/xfce's to a folder which i created called "questions".But,after changing the "save in" box to "desktop"when I try, "save",{and {i even tried naming the document},after clicking on "save",the "save" box seems to "blink" & remain exactly how it is & where it is.Anybody have any clues as to what's g
[05:43] <Balsaq> what were your choices when you went to save it
[05:45] <confusious> choices ?? Hmmmmm............okay
[05:46] <confusious> had option of where to save the document to,option to change file name,& an option to change file type
[05:46] <confusious> those were my choices
[05:46] <Balsaq> stand by...
[05:46] <confusious> okee dokee
[05:46] <Balsaq> what did you choose at that point
[05:47] <confusious> save to desk.......left all else unchanged
[05:48] <confusious> sorry,I was typing 1 handed
[05:49] <confusious> I'm wondering if maybe the program  was somehow not installed properly
[05:49] <confusious> maybe I should try re installing ?
[05:50] <confusious> Curious that Xubuntu has 3 different text editors installed
[05:52] <confusious> I have abiword {under apps & office} & I have mousepad {under apps & accessories} & then I have notepad {under apps & "other"}
[05:59] <Sysi-> abiword hs features, mousepad is basic, and notepad is for wine
[06:00] <confusious> Hmmmmmmm.Well,I do have wine installed.I wonder what's going on
[06:02] <Sysi-> that notepad is actual M$ notepad, maybe some win-programs need it
[06:03] <confusious> Hmmmmmm.Well,that's cool..........
[06:04] <confusious> It's just curious that it doesn't seem to work even when I have wine installed
[06:05] <Sysi-> well, it's MS, what do you expect? :P
[06:05] <confusious> Guess I could uninstall it & just use Mousepad,huh ?
[06:05] <confusious> Heh,heh.That's true
[06:05] <Sysi-> or set mousepad to be defult for txt files
[06:06] <Sysi-> right click -> properties and there's default application
[06:06] <confusious> Actually,I think it alrady is.I was just using notepad because of the familiar name
[06:08] <confusious> Sorry,where do I right click ?
[06:10] <Sysi-> on file in file manager
[06:10] <confusious> thank you
[06:11] <Sysi-> np
[06:24] <Balsaq> Sysi...you are the man!!!!
[06:24] <Balsaq> saved me again!!!
[07:46] <pog> how is it possible to configure thunar views with user and group? ist it there a view or is it possible to configure?
[07:48] <pog> in the detail view I just have -Name size Type and date.
[07:52] <Balsaq> make a fuse group
[09:20] <titan_ark> hey! need an urgent help with OOo. I was trying to install the odf-converter as docx format documents were garbled and now it is is not opening any documents! is there a way to remove and reinstall all OOo packages?
[09:27] <arossouw> Hi, i have xubuntu 9.04. the xfce4-panel is missing (no applicatons menu). i have opened a terminal and typed xfce4-panel, but nothing happens. Also tried to change settings for panel on settings menu, but nothing appears when clicking on panel settings
[09:28] <arossouw> can i recreate a profile, or delete some files associated with xfce4-panel, for xfce4-panel to work properly?
[09:52] <psycho_oreos> probably there's an issue with binary or memory or something, maybe the application segfaulted
[09:54] <arossouw> do i need to apt-get --reinstall install xfce4-panel , cause ive tried that
[09:54] <arossouw> psycho_oreos: how can i debug it?
[09:55] <psycho_oreos> arossouw, usually dmesg would output useful things like that if there's application error or something
[09:56] <psycho_oreos> it shouldn't happen normally on a clean install, if it does, it could be something wrong with memory on the computer itself
[09:56] <arossouw> is bad blocks on disk a probability?
[09:56] <arossouw> i mean a probability to causing issues
[09:56] <psycho_oreos> yeah that would be another one as well
[09:56] <arossouw> what should i look for in dmesg?
[09:57] <psycho_oreos> but like I said, it shouldn't normally happen on clean install
[09:57] <psycho_oreos> umm grep for segfaults or anything to do with the applications you tried to start
[09:57] <arossouw> ok, can xfce4-panel be started in debug mode, or should i use things like strace and ptrace
[09:58] <psycho_oreos> probably those would be better option or try to see if there's a debug option direct from application
[09:59] <arossouw> ok, will try
[12:06] <cbx> Hey everyone. I'm behind a squid proxy. So I can get firefox working
[12:07] <cbx> but I'm having issues with apt get / install programs
[12:57] <tommcd> hello all xubuntu enthusiasts!
[12:57] <Myrtti> ohai
[12:58]  * Psilocybin_Elf waves.
[12:59] <tommcd> I have been a long time Ubuntu user. How does Xubuntu compare with Ubuntu? Is it faster and lighter than Ubuntu? I am very familiar with the XFCE DE from other distros.
[12:59] <Sysi> well, it's ubuntu but with xfce, not gnome
[13:00] <Myrtti> doesn't come with evolution or openoffice, some overhead is shed there, if you don't use them personally
[13:00] <tommcd> I have never used Xubuntu though. I am thinking of switching to Xubuntu, since Ubuntu is getting rather bloated imo.
[13:01] <tommcd> does xubuntu use pulse audio? I have heard that it does not.
[13:01] <Myrtti> no it doesn't
[13:02] <tommcd> good. I don't like pulse audio at all.
[13:03] <balvonas> who does?;]
[13:03] <Evet> what is the equivalent of nm-applet?
[13:03] <Myrtti> it has it's benefits
[13:03] <Myrtti> Evet: in what?
[13:03] <Evet> (a tray widget that we can choose wifi or cable networks)
[13:03] <Evet> Myrtti: you've just say. nm-applet
[13:03] <Myrtti> nm-applet is what xubuntu uses.
[13:03] <balvonas> Evet: wicd
[13:04] <psycho_oreos> I think 9.04 did have pulseaudio, I've removed that in my setup
[13:04] <Evet> Myrtti: maybe not for 8.04
[13:04] <Myrtti> Evet: yes, in that too
[13:12] <Psilocybin_Elf> I'm using Xubuntu 8.10 and it has nm-applet.
[13:24] <tommcd> @psycho_oreos, I have removed pulse audio also. It is a huge resource hog imo.
[13:31] <psycho_oreos> tommcd, heh I removed mine because it was conflicting with sound along with cdemud
[13:31] <psycho_oreos> and that pulseaudio was buggy
[13:38] <eXpl0i7> did anyone have problems with headphones?
[13:38] <eXpl0i7> i'm using xubuntu 9.04
[13:39] <eXpl0i7> and can't get headphones to work
[13:39] <psycho_oreos> and is there sound through speakers?
[13:40] <eXpl0i7> i tried something fron ubuntu forums but nothing
[13:40] <eXpl0i7> yea
[13:40] <eXpl0i7> i have sound on speakers
[13:40] <psycho_oreos> tried plugging headphone into the same speaker output?
[13:40] <eXpl0i7> yes
[13:40] <eXpl0i7> and work
[13:41] <psycho_oreos> and it works? maybe your front audio panel or whatever doesn't work
[13:41] <eXpl0i7> on windows xp all work
[13:41] <psycho_oreos> windows is windows, linux is linux
[13:41] <eXpl0i7> i know :)
[13:43] <psycho_oreos> well I don't know of other solution apart from thinking its a hardware issue, the motherboards I've been tinkering wtih allows you to either use the rear audio jacks or the front but not both
[13:43] <psycho_oreos> that's with an onboard sound chip
[13:44] <eXpl0i7> see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/384384/
[13:44] <psycho_oreos> rear audio jacks are the ones soldered onto the motherboard itself, the front audio jacks are usually on the PC case and they provide audio headers for those to plug it onto the motherboard
[13:45] <eXpl0i7> i don't have front jacks
[13:45] <psycho_oreos> mm onboard audio chip and?
[13:46] <psycho_oreos> maybe top or side, PC case designs are becoming weird these days :p
[13:46] <eXpl0i7> a have old pc
[13:46] <eXpl0i7> :D
[13:47] <psycho_oreos> you're not making any sense.
[13:48] <psycho_oreos> and like I said, output can go either to one or the other not both afaik
[15:08] <tommcd> @eXpl0i7, have you tried running alsamixer from the terminal? Using alsamixer, check that the headphone output is not muted (toggle the "M" key, and raise the volume level all the way up for the headphones in alsamixer using the arrow keys. Then hit Esc twice to exit alsamixer.
[15:09] <eXpl0i7> tommcd: i don't have "headphone" in alsamixer
[15:10] <eXpl0i7> i have "phone" but this is not for headphones
[15:16] <tommcd> @eXpl0i7, Is this a desktop or a laptop? What computer is this? I have a headphone setting in alsamixer on my laptop, but not my desktop. In any case, raise all the levels in alsamixer all the way up and see if you get sound.
[15:16] <eXpl0i7> desktop
[15:18] <tommcd> @eXpl0i7,  so what desktop is this? homemade? OEM? specs?
[15:20] <Sysi> tommcd: what irc client you're using, if you don't write that @ you should get eg. my nick with sy + tab
[15:20] <tommcd> and raise all the levels in alsamixer all the way up ^^^^^
[15:21] <tommcd> I have Xchat. Is the @ a problem????
[15:21] <bazhang> try to tab complete
[15:21] <tommcd> I was using @ as a shorthand for to:
[15:22] <bazhang> set in preferences for last spoken, then type first three or so letters then hit tab key
[15:22] <tommcd> I can omit @ if it is a problem in some way.
[15:22] <bazhang> just less hassle
[15:22] <bazhang> tom <tab> becomes tommcd
[15:23] <Sysi> it's not problem, but looks a bit funny
[15:23] <bazhang> highlights user, as @ does not I am guessing
[15:23] <Sysi> and some clients may not hilight that by default
[15:23] <tommcd> ok, no more @@@ for me!!
[15:24] <bazhang> hah
[15:30] <wingnut405> who
[15:31] <knome> hello people. :)
[15:32] <tommcd> hello knome!!!!
[15:33] <Sysi-> ohai
[15:35] <tommcd> so... just to ask his question again for all the people who have recently joined....  Is Xubuntu noticeably faster and lighter than Ubuntu???
[15:36] <tommcd> me thinks Ubuntu has been getting rather bloated.
[15:37] <knome> tommcd, xubuntu has a smaller memory footprint so yes, it should be faster. with powerful pc's you don't feel that much difference though
[15:38] <tommcd> knome, that is about what I thought. thank you.
[15:39] <knome> tommcd, no problem, enjoy xubuntu
[15:39] <tommcd> I have been thinking of switching to Xubuntu when 10.04 comes out.
[15:40] <tommcd> My system can handle Ubuntu with gnome and all. But I prefer to eliminate bloat wherever possible.
[15:42] <tommcd> I have enjoyed the XFCE desktop in Zenwalk and Slackware for some time now.
[15:44] <knome> :)
[15:44] <tommcd> I also like Gnome though.
[15:44] <tommcd> So perhaps Ubuntu for the desktop, and Xubuntu for the laptop, just to compare.
[15:45] <knome> i really prefer xubuntu everywhere
[15:46] <tommcd> I probably would prefer Xubuntu also. I prefer XFCE in Slackware to KDE anyday!
[15:47] <knome> kde is a totally different chapter altogether
[15:47] <psycho_oreos> there's also lxde which I looks a little like kde but lighter
[15:48] <tommcd> yes, there is supposed to be a Lubuntu (*buntu with LXDE) version of Ubuntu coming out with 10.04.
[15:49] <tommcd> I may try that also.
[15:49] <bazhang> there is lubuntu-desktop now
[15:49] <tommcd> arrrgh, decisions, decisions, so many decisions ....
[15:52] <knome> haven't heard much about lubuntu yet
[15:59] <psycho_oreos> any of you guys use filezilla? I wonder if you can get 3.3.2 on jaunty instead of dist-upgrade or installing karmic
[16:00] <bazhang> psycho_oreos, via PPA?
[16:00] <psycho_oreos> bazhang, yeah was googling it, might try backports or something
[16:00] <psycho_oreos> https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ppa/+build/1522822
[16:02] <psycho_oreos> hmm that might not work :/ gonna try looking for one for jaunty
[16:03] <bazhang> https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ppa nope just for karmic there
[16:04] <psycho_oreos> yeah I thought so, maybe if I can get the deb src and make binary deb from there
[16:05] <bazhang> he also has the latest transmission there
[16:06] <psycho_oreos> heh I tried transmission, didn't really like the UI or the way it handles 100+ torrents
[16:06] <bazhang> ie with magnet support
[16:07]  * psycho_oreos prefers the (yucky) utorrent over wine for torrenting until I get used to libtorrent
[17:30] <John345345> hey im running on the live cd now and want to browse the files on the hard drive
[17:31] <darthanubis> John345345: click the hard drive
[17:31] <John345345> mnt is empty?
[17:31] <Myrtti> /media/
[17:31] <John345345> media is empty too
[17:31] <Myrtti> then they're not mounted
[17:32] <charlie-tca> I think you have to mount then
[17:32] <darthanubis> John345345: did you click the drive?
[17:32] <charlie-tca> Hello, Myrtti
[17:32] <John345345> yes, the drive icon on the desktop
[17:32] <Myrtti> ohai charlie-tca ♥
[17:32] <darthanubis> John345345: now click the drive icon
[17:32] <John345345> yes, file system
[17:33] <John345345> i dont want to install yet, i want to check if the drive has files
[17:34] <charlie-tca> I am bringing up the live desktop, let me look
[17:34] <charlie-tca> As I recall, Xubuntu does not automount the hard drives, because you have to unmount them to install on them
[17:35] <John345345> how do I moount it ?
[17:36] <charlie-tca> create a mount point, sudo mkdir /media/sda1
[17:36] <charlie-tca> then you can mount the drive, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[17:37] <charlie-tca> then use thunar to look at sda1, which is the first partition of the hard drive
[17:37] <John345345> thx
[17:37] <John345345> charlie
[17:37] <John345345> :)
[17:37] <charlie-tca> Good luck. If it fails and the commands are correct, the drive is empty
[17:38] <charlie-tca> John345345: you will have to unmount the drive or reboot to install after that, umount /media/sda1
[17:38] <John345345> now I gottaa figure out why the WINNT directory is there
[17:39] <charlie-tca> Does this system have windows on it?
[17:39] <John345345> I don't remember installing it on that drive
[17:39] <charlie-tca> You can add mount points, too, just increment the number
[17:39] <charlie-tca> sda2, sda3, etc
[17:40] <John345345> ive only got 1
[17:40] <John345345> oh wait
[17:40] <John345345> what if  there is another partition ?
[17:40] <charlie-tca> or two drives
[17:40] <John345345> I know there is only 1 physical drive
[17:40] <charlie-tca> use the same commands, change sda1 to sda2
[17:41] <John345345> with dev/sda1 ?
[17:41] <John345345> and media/sda2 ?
[17:42] <charlie-tca> change /dev/sda1 to /dev/sda2 and change /media/sda1 to /media/sda2
[17:42] <John345345> that will still get me the second partition?
[17:42] <John345345> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[17:42] <charlie-tca> That will be the 2nd partition
[17:43] <charlie-tca> try sda3
[17:44] <John345345> how do I exit man page?
[17:44] <charlie-tca> You had windows on this drive, sda2 might be the recovery partition or the swap partition
[17:44] <knome> press q
[17:44] <John345345> thx
[17:46] <John345345> mount: mount point /media/sda3 does not exist
[17:46] <John345345> but with sda2 i get mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[17:47] <charlie-tca> two partitions on this drive, then
[17:47] <charlie-tca> try mount -t ntfs ...
[17:48] <charlie-tca> Did you create the /media/sda3 directory?
[17:48] <John345345> NTFS signature is missing.
[17:48] <John345345> Failed to mount '/dev/sda2': Invalid argument
[17:48] <John345345> The device '/dev/sda2' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
[17:48] <charlie-tca> try replacing ntfs with fat32
[17:49] <John345345> unknown filesystem type
[17:49] <charlie-tca> try ext3
[17:50] <John345345> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2,
[17:50] <John345345>        missing codepage or helper program
[17:50] <charlie-tca> I give up
[17:51] <John345345> why is fat32 unknown
[17:51] <charlie-tca> Go to applications -> system -> gparted
[17:52] <charlie-tca> Look under "file system" column for the type
[17:52] <John345345> ok I see /dev/sda2 as extended partition
[17:52] <John345345> /dev/sda5 has ntfs
[17:52] <charlie-tca> so, there is also an sda5
[17:52] <John345345> so, just mount sda5 ?
[17:52] <charlie-tca> yup
[17:53] <charlie-tca> how many more do you see?
[17:53] <John345345> none
[17:53] <John345345> well, the sda1 is already mounted
[17:53] <charlie-tca> yup
[17:54] <John345345> i browse sda5 says 0 items
[17:54] <charlie-tca> Then it is empty
[17:54] <charlie-tca> gparted show show very little used on it
[17:55] <John345345> it's called partition editor btw
[17:55] <John345345> the shortcut
[17:56] <John345345> can I burn a more recent copy of ubuntu with live desktop?
[17:56] <charlie-tca> It is gparted in Xubuntu lucid
[17:56] <John345345> oh wait, there is already a disc in there
[17:56] <charlie-tca> What are you using now?
[17:56] <charlie-tca> oh, yeah, there is that, too
[17:57] <John345345> yes the window title says gparted, but the shortcut says partition editor
[17:57] <charlie-tca> okay
[17:57] <charlie-tca> it worked, right?
[17:57] <John345345> yeah, just specifying for the others you will help
[17:58] <charlie-tca> now if you don't want to restart, you can right click each partition in gparted, and click "unmount"
[17:58] <charlie-tca> But you have to unmount sda5 before sda2
[17:59] <John345345> i'd use windows but they charge for a liscence
[18:00] <John345345> can you update xubuntu to ubunto or update my old xubuntu disc?
[18:01] <John345345> what's your email charlie-tca ?
[18:01] <John345345> you're a nice guy
[18:01] <charlie-tca> You can run sudo apt-get update
[18:01] <charlie-tca> then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:01] <charlie-tca> It will update that live environment to the latest for the version it is
[18:01] <John345345> can I run that with live desktop?
[18:02] <John345345> ok
[18:02] <charlie-tca> Or, If you are going to install, just run install, then run the updates to bring the installation up to date
[18:02] <charlie-tca> What version is that?
[18:03] <John345345> ok xubuntu 8.10
[18:03] <John345345> that's old, right?
[18:03] <charlie-tca> yup
[18:04] <charlie-tca> It ends in april of 2010
[18:04] <John345345> its got firefox 3.0.3
[18:04] <charlie-tca> You can install it, update it, then upgrade if you want.
[18:04] <charlie-tca> yup
[18:04] <charlie-tca> which is also dead
[18:04] <John345345> upgrade to ubuntu?
[18:04] <charlie-tca> You can, by using sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[18:05] <John345345> I did upgrade from xubuntu to ubuntu once, once finished the old xubuntu boot screen was still there
[18:05] <charlie-tca> all it does is change the desktop from Xfce to Gnome
[18:05] <charlie-tca> Yup
[18:05] <John345345> ive got a pentium 4
[18:05] <charlie-tca> but it still uses gnome
[18:05] <John345345> 3
[18:05] <John345345> ive got a pentium 3
[18:05] <charlie-tca> Why not download the ubuntu cd then?
[18:06] <charlie-tca> Although I think Ubuntu will run slow on that
[18:06] <John345345> becaause I forgot it
[18:06] <John345345> at home
[18:06] <John345345> hehe
[18:06] <John345345> ok
[18:06] <charlie-tca> I see
[18:06] <John345345> so xubuntu is better for pentium 3
[18:06] <John345345> ?
[18:06] <charlie-tca> yup
[18:06] <charlie-tca> Especially if you don't install openoffice
[18:07] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu requires more ram, more processor, more hard drive
[18:07] <John345345> yeah I'll just use google docs
[18:07] <Myrtti> evolution makes cpu/ram cry
[18:08] <John345345> I had to get a new computer since the old one I had littteraly fried
[18:08] <John345345> smelt really bad for 3 weeks
[18:12] <John345345> ok i will install
[18:12] <John345345> thank you all for the help
[19:05] <sd> hi i don't have xfce menu how do i activate??
[19:06] <knome> sd, are you missing the panel completely, or just the xfce menu?
[19:07] <sd> misimg complitely
[19:08] <knome> sd, okay, then press alt+f2 and run 'xfce4-panel'
[19:10] <sd> thnks knome
[22:42] <subspider> hello Sachse_Siechtum
[22:43] <subspider> how are you man
[22:50] <Sachse_Siechtum> hello I'm fine and you?
[22:51] <Sachse_Siechtum> just watching a documentation about Prussia