=== pascalFR is now known as Parti === DarkwingDuck_ is now known as DarkwingDuck [03:17] nixternal: ping [03:35] hey DarkwingDuck [03:35] how are things? === Guest47287 is now known as NCommander [11:04] JontheEchidna: now I remember what I wanted to ask ... how do you like wordpress.com ... I am thinking about switching, blogger is annoying me quite a bit [11:58] * Sput mostly notices people bitching about wordpress [11:58] * Tm_T runs his own instance of wordpress, up to me how well it works and behaves [12:02] * shadeslayer notices his karma is in constant flux @ lp [12:03] wow.. apparently lp also deducts karma if you are idle >< [12:04] shadeslayer: sure [12:13] * Sput wonders how Application Indicators and the new crossdesktop StatusNotifier spec are supposed to work together [12:13] welcome [12:13] fabo: ping? [12:13] somehow it seems stupid to have to support two very similar things in your app [12:13] any other Qt package maintainer around? [12:14] I found a bug in ubiquity-slideshow-kubuntu-welcome, it says "Thank you for choosing Kubuntu 9.10, the Karmic Koala!" [12:14] https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-kubuntu-welcome/hu/2/+translate === shadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer_ [12:22] danimo: pong [12:23] fabo: hey [12:23] fabo: I am just testing the qt-sdk metapackage and all that comes with it [12:23] fabo: I noticed that the icons of the Qt tools still are the old ones (e.g. pre-Nokia) [12:24] fabo: also, Qt Creator is only 1.3.0 instead of 1.3.1 [12:26] danimo: Qt Creator 1.3.1 is in debian experimental, and should go soon to unstable. a sync will be needed. everything should be up-to-date. [12:27] danimo: for deprecated icons, i'll take a look and fix. [12:27] fabo: is the qt-sdk package also in debian? [12:28] no, it isn't but easily fixable. [12:28] * fabo add the tasks to his todo and will take care of both side (debian/ubuntu). [12:29] fabo: cool [12:29] fabo: also, creator seems to start up rather slow, but I need to investigate if that is a genuine ubuntu/debian problem [12:29] (package-wise) [12:32] i doubt about a package issue [12:33] fabo: would be interesting to see what causes it [12:33] fabo: I remember complaints about slow startup [12:54] apachelogger: I like it. You can edit posts without sending them to the front page, it has good spam protection, and I like the interface better === raj is now known as txwikinger2 [13:11] JontheEchidna: kthx [13:12] fabo: icon issue is coming from outdated xpms I think [13:17] apachelogger: ot - qtcurve uploaded [13:17] thx :) [13:44] hey anyone want to look at : libxcb1-dev [13:44] um wait [13:44] please look at : http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39853218/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.recorditnow_0.7%2Bgit20100227-0ubuntu0~ppa4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [13:45] i have added libfixes as a build dep ( it pulls in libfixes3-dev automatically ) but still fails to compie [13:45] *compile [13:47] shadeslayer: should be libxfixes-dev [13:47] JontheEchidna: its in the build log.. [13:48] like it did install it [13:48] you said libfixes3-dev [13:48] anyway, gotta go. bbl [13:48] Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 7), cmake, cdbs, ffmpeg, mencoder, libjoschy-dev, kdelibs5-dev, libqt4-dev, libxfixes-dev, pkg-kde-tools [13:48] :( [13:48] the log also complains about pkg-config not being present. that may be needed to find it or something [13:50] hmm but i did add that too [13:50] pkg-config-kde [13:51] um.. make that pkg-kde-tools [13:51] or is that a different build dep? [13:54] Riddell: important nepomuksearch fix: http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/debdiff_kubuntu_88_nepomuksearch_uds-url.patch [13:54] Riddell: without it and tags created in 4.3 nepomuksearch is mostly unusable in dolphin [13:55] Riddell: in 4.4 is greatly enhance usability because standard filepath are used and not weird nepomuk ids. [14:05] wow... it still fails to build : http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39854860/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.recorditnow_0.7%2Bgit20100227-0ubuntu0~ppa5_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [14:17] omg [14:17] Sput: quassel must get support for kde emoticons ASAP! [14:17] my changelog entry of the day: [14:17] * Make <3 the default emoticon string for the heart emoticon (previous was (L)) [14:18] that is worth nothing if quassel does not support kde emoticons :( [14:18] konvi does, just so youknow :'( [14:23] Riddell: new kds uploaded [14:24] hm [14:24] suffix vs. prefix [14:25] heh..choqok just had to have svn updates before my session :| [14:25] and now it fails to build [14:26] shadeslayer: hum? [14:26] Tm_T: i was going to use choqok as my demo package for PPA's [14:27] and now it doesnt build :| [14:27] shadeslayer: you mean current svn? [14:27] Tm_T: yes [14:27] hmm maybe i could use the earlier release [14:27] shadeslayer: with KDE 4.4.0 ? [14:27] Tm_T: yes [14:28] hummm [14:28] did you try with clean build-dir? [14:28] Tm_T: i deleted the whole build dir ;) [14:29] that's clean then [14:29] i also deleted the dir where make stops the build and then did svn up [14:29] still fails [14:29] Tm_T: http://pastebin.ca/1813443 [14:29] let's see what happens here, what's the actual error? [14:31] Tm_T: want the complete build log? [14:31] no, that's enough [14:31] ok [14:33] weird that it builds just fine here [14:34] hmm [14:34] maybe i should download the svn again [14:34] shadeslayer: do "svn diff" in that tree to see if there's local modificatinos [14:34] ions [14:35] apparently yes [14:35] but i didnt do them :( [14:36] ah [14:36] >< [14:36] you use separate build-dir, right? [14:36] thats the patch the dev sent me to get a better debug output [14:36] awww [14:37] Tm_T: how do i rebase the checkout? [14:37] svn? just remove the files locally and "svn up" ? [14:37] that's how I do it [14:42] Tm_T: ok worked,can you also help me with this http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39855619/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.recorditnow_0.7%2Bgit20100227-0ubuntu0~ppa6_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [14:45] you need package that contains "/usr/include/X11/extensions/shape.h" as build-dependency? [14:50] Tm_T: yeah found it [14:50] Riddell: reported nepomuksearch trouble + fix on launchpad too: bug #529021 [14:50] Launchpad bug 529021 in kdebase-runtime "[PATCH] URLs returned by nepomuksearch unusable or irritating" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529021 [14:50] libxext-dev === allee-k_ is now known as allee-k [15:52] apachelogger: use your compose key properly! comp + <3 is ♥ [15:52] problem solved [15:58] how do i store the output of a program as a var in a sh script ? i seam to not be doing it correctly [15:59] i am trying to detect platform in a script by using uname -m [16:00] sput, what is my comp key ??? for those [16:00] dunno, I configured my capslock key to be compose [16:00] I don't ever need capslock [16:00] now you just put in the ascii number you want ? [16:00] it's easy to do with KDE, in the keyboard settings there's an option [16:01] it's not ascii, it's other sequences, often easy to remember [16:01] such as <3 for ♥, or CCCP for ☭ [16:01] (and of course you can compose all sorts of accented letters, not only fun symbols) [16:01] input actions ? [16:01] real smilies: ☺ entered as comp + :) [16:02] I think it's in keyboard layout [16:02] (advanced) [16:02] xkb options or something [16:02] in system settings ? [16:03] ah i found it === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === shadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer_ === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [16:49] ubutnuone-client-kde does not start in lucid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/385169/ Any ideas? [16:51] Hmmm, my dbus is borken. will reboot [17:22] binarylooks: you get ubuntuone working? [17:22] DarkwingDuck: no, apacheloggers client does not want to connect [17:22] hmmm... I'll fire up the ol' VM [17:23] DarkwingDuck: thanks, i installed the gnome client, but i cannot start it from the konsole [17:24] gimme a few [17:24] DarkwingDuck: no rush [17:24] Okay, I'm about to boot my netbook... [17:25] srconds yay, plus 20 seconds kde login :-( [17:25] 10 srconds yay, plus 20 seconds kde login :-( [17:25] No, like toss it out the friggen window === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:26] Touchscreen works in 9.10 but fails in Lucid [17:27] I get the following error [17:27] http://paste.ubuntu.com/385186/ [17:28] its strange that I have the ubuntu one gnome package installed but that I cannot find the executable to start from konsole [17:29] hmm... [17:29] binarylooks: it's applet [17:29] you mean ubuntuone-gnome-applet? [17:30] cannot remember the name [17:30] ubuntu gives me :ubuntu-bug ubuntuone-auth ubuntuone-client-kde ubuntuone-preferences ubuntu-support-status [17:30] binarylooks: bah, what was the package name? [17:31] ubuntuone-client - Ubuntu One client [17:31] ubuntuone-client-gnome - Ubuntu One client GNOME integration [17:31] ubuntuone-client-tools - Ubuntu One client tools [17:31] ubuntuone-client-kde - Ubuntu One client for KDE [17:32] binarylooks: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/i386/ubuntuone-client-gnome/filelist [17:33] Tm_T: I'm on lucid. I remember that it worked in karmic with the gnome client [17:33] binarylooks: you are right, executable is gone in lucid, erm [17:35] Tm_T: Uff. I thaught I was crazy [17:35] binarylooks: I have no idea, try asking in #ubuntuone (: [17:36] Tm_T: I did yesterday and today. no answer- I think I have to catch Riddell or apachelogger next week [17:36] gimme a few and I'll do some digging on my VM [17:36] DarkwingDuck: ok, the kde client is only in apacheloggers PPA [17:36] Actually, I was thnking of upgrading my sys to Lucid anyway. [17:37] I know ;) [17:37] its rocksolid [17:37] Yeah I know. [17:37] Help in bugging [17:49] does gmail work better with IMAP or Disconnected IMAP in Kmail [17:52] DarkwingDuck: bug 529113 [17:52] Launchpad bug 529113 in ubuntuone-client "ubuntuone not usable in default kubuntu lucid install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529113 [17:58] Riddell: the cache removal is still not applied? [17:59] to cd image building [18:02] Thanks binarylooks [18:03] oh dear [18:03] Riddell: openoffice.org-core still depends on gstreamer foo === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [18:10] hm [18:11] that stuff doesnt seem to be new [18:11] was already there in karmic [18:11] sebas: ping? im noticing plasma widgets jumping about of their own volition between the time it takes me to put them where i want them and get my mouse to the "LOCK!" button [18:11] maco2: hmm, do you change plasma theme? [18:13] Tm_T: nope [18:14] my folderview widget refuses to not be behind the panel (which i have on top). i try to place it about 30px from top edge of screen and it keeps jumping to only about 10px from edge of screen [18:14] and my picture frame plasmoids... one of them likes to jump 150px up, another 150px pixels to the right...and the 2 others just jump about 20px up and to the right [18:27] maco2: sounds, err, fun [18:29] HNGH [18:42] apachelogger: this ain't good, can you try compiling kffmpegthumbnailer from lucid repo with pbuilder? [18:42] I do not have no pbuilder for lucid I think [18:43] * apachelogger sshs home [18:43] sudo pbuilder build kde-style-qtcurve_1.1.1-1ubuntu1.dsc --logfile ~/kde-style-qtcurve.log [18:43] ^didn't give me a log. :( [18:43] anybody know why? [18:43] JontheEchidna: that is why you should have a proper pbuilderrc :P [18:44] oha, it says it automatically makes logs in pbuilderrc [18:44] good pbuilderrc that is [18:45] oh, so that's what those .build files are [18:45] * Quintasan got himself in a pretty deep shi- [18:45] * JontheEchidna files FFe for kde-style-qtcurve [18:45] :S [18:45] ^^ [18:46] if I had a proper machine around all that pbuilding would be way faster [18:46] JontheEchidna, Quintasan: shouldnt you be doing kde 4.4.1? [18:46] shit, forgot about that [18:47] ^^ [18:47] apachelogger: same goes for you :P Bug #526002 [18:47] Launchpad bug 526002 in kffmpegthumbnailer "build-depends on non-existing package" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526002 [18:47] Quintasan: pbuild started [18:47] :O [18:47] Quintasan: you go do 4.4.1 :P [18:47] more important [18:48] apachelogger: when pbuilding kffmpeg I get -> http://pastebin.ca/1813927 [18:48] :O [18:48] I know [18:48] so, like what causes this? [18:49] go fix your icecream :P [18:49] e.g. remove the icecc hook from your pbuilder hooks [18:49] or make that crappy second computer work but I'm too lazy now to do it [18:49] ah that is outside [18:49] Quintasan: go remove icecc* [18:50] Quintasan: no, you have a loop :P [18:50] ICECC[22229] 19:30:59: icecream seems to have invoked itself recursively! [18:50] that only happens when the icecc wrappers again try to call the icecc wrappers AFAIK [18:50] lol I ain't got icee in my .pbuilder-hooks [18:50] Quintasan: yeah, it is your system [18:50] I thought that was already in pbuilder :P [18:50] anyhow [18:51] Quintasan: go find some archive admin to sort the libjpeg mess [18:51] pitti might be around [18:52] pitti jest niedostępny: long weekend, away from any computer [18:52] :/ [18:52] Quintasan: ask in ubuntu-devel [18:52] and while you are waiting for an archive admin, go package 4.4.1 :P [18:52] * apachelogger goes back to taxes on income and prepares for improved madness [19:08] great, ubuntu-devel is sleeping :S [19:21] oh lol apachelogger, I have removed icecc and it works :O [19:21] oh magic [19:21] * Quintasan puts icecc on Todo [19:22] * Quintasan thinks Todo is reaaaly too long [19:25] o/ [19:25] shadeslayer: nice lesson :) [19:25] ghostcube: wow really? [19:25] ghostcube: all thanks to apachelogger ;) [19:26] i dont know much about packaging will read this in my vbacklogs :) [19:26] bt looked good i learned some things [19:26] ghostcube: oh read this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/385259/ [19:26] ghostcube: i already had most of i prepared earlier... [19:26] * Quintasan is happy to notice our Todo list for Lucid is almost entirely green [19:27] https://edge.launchpad.net/~we-love-harald [19:27] all cookies to me! [19:27] apachelogger: groupie? [19:27] groupies ftw! [19:27] :D [19:27] im already one ;) [19:27] wayyy back.. when you applied for your membership [19:27] Xand3r: you know, that group still looks boring [19:27] i think :P [19:27] <_Groo_> hi/2 all [19:28] <_Groo_> hi apachelogger, Quintasan [19:28] ahoy _Groo_ [19:28] _Groo_: \o [19:28] * shadeslayer feels ignored [19:28] lol [19:28] * apachelogger sends out invitation for sysadmin day [19:28] apachelogger: you have groopies rofl [19:28] :D [19:28] oh my [19:28] 2009-06-30 [19:28] <_Groo_> apachelogger: i have kchmviewer for kde4 compiled and ready for quite some time, lucid still has the kde3 version, should i make a [make-package] amd send to revu? [19:28] shadeslayer: 7! [19:29] last friday of july it is [19:29] <_Groo_> hi shadeslayer ¬¬ no hard feelings :D [19:29] :P [19:29] _Groo_: [needs-packaging] you mean, yes I suppose that would be a good idea :) [19:29] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: ehehehe :) [19:29] WTF [19:30] _Groo_: mind that you will have to get a feature freeze exception once it is reviewed though [19:30] <_Groo_> apachelogger: ok gonna do my usual package scrubbing to please the MOTU gods.. ill let you know when its uplodaded to revu [19:30] thx [19:30] <_Groo_> apachelogger: lucid is in freeze already??? but its not beta yet.. [19:30] apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/Pv6ed9EN [19:30] wut [19:31] _Groo_: lts goes into feature freeze earlier I think [19:31] something like that [19:31] _Groo_: only 2 months left anyway [19:31] apachelogger: wait, this is whole log, scroll down to the bottom please [19:31] I suppose a 2 months feature freeze isnt half bad [19:31] <_Groo_> apachelogger: ok, cause if i remember correctly ubuntu usually enter feature freeze when the first beta is released [19:32] <_Groo_> apachelogger: and since we are in ahlpha 3 i thought i still had time to destroyy.. heerr send some more packages [19:32] Quintasan: what do you do with your system???? [19:32] nothing [19:32] * apachelogger also shudders over ccache [19:32] really [19:32] Quintasan: that is the first time I see that kind of error [19:32] same here [19:32] in my whole life [19:32] and I am like old [19:33] srsly old [19:34] Quintasan: can you please send me the files by mail? [19:34] apachelogger: debian/ dir? [19:34] Quintasan: nah, dsc, diff and orig [19:35] one of those must have some problem [19:35] Quintasan: did you use pdebuild? [19:35] or whatever the cmd is called [19:35] apachelogger: debuild and the pdebuildf [19:35] pdebuild* [19:35] now that is redundant IMHO [19:35] just pdebuild? [19:35] no [19:35] apachelogger: can we bump the standards version for packages in debian? [19:35] debuild and invoke pbuilder [19:36] Quintasan: unless you are sure that pdebuild will always do the appropriate things [19:36] oh awesome [19:36] shadeslayer: debian developers can [19:36] apachelogger: debuild -S -sa -k throws same error :S [19:36] apachelogger: for packages in a PPA too? [19:36] shadeslayer: we could too, but that just increases the delta to debian so it is considered bad practise [19:37] apachelogger: delta? [19:37] Quintasan: -k is not necessary if your name and mail in changelog matches the one of your kye btw === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [19:37] shadeslayer: difference [19:37] ah [19:37] Quintasan: where is my mail :P [19:38] * apachelogger should be learning omg [19:39] apachelogger: sent [19:40] ah! [19:40] apachelogger: btw how do you manage your pbuilder configs? I use the one from wiki but it's a pita to create aliases for each pdebuild [19:40] :S [19:41] in the name of lord vader!! [19:41] Quintasan: go less *diff.gz [19:41] see 4th line [19:41] <_Groo_> btw are you guys planning to upgrade to koffice 2.2 before the lucid release? for what im reading in the devs blog it should be a very solid release [19:41] that occurs for every file, and that is the 1 hunk that fails [19:41] because it does not belong there [19:42] Quintasan: I do not use pdebuild, I use the evne more PITA approach of manually copying the configs around :P [19:42] * apachelogger is a control freak in case you did not notice [19:42] apachelogger: soo how the hell you test build then? [19:42] _Groo_: no, we are in feature freeze [19:42] Quintasan: manually [19:42] <_Groo_> Quintasan: he compiles in his brain! [19:42] lol how the hell that line got there? [19:43] <_Groo_> apachelogger: argh :( 2.2 will be much more bug free then 2.1.1 :( [19:43] Quintasan: dpkg-buildpackage, then lintian, then possibly copying a pbuilderrc into palce, then pbuilder [19:43] _Groo_: so it will be available in -backports and/or a PPA [19:43] Quintasan: maybe you have a .pc in your dir [19:44] Quintasan: how did you build that source anyway? [19:44] not possible [19:44] Quintasan: bzr builddeb? [19:44] wait [19:44] scp'd kdebase from ktown -> changed to tar.gz -> unpacked -> copied debian/ from bzr -> changed changelog -> debuild -> pdebuild [19:45] I guess I'm doing it wrong then [19:45] oh dear [19:45] Quintasan: one could say that ;) [19:45] <_Groo_> apachelogger: thats what i meant... to send to backports, its the usual [need-packaging]->revu->please the motu gods? [19:45] * Quintasan notes noone really mentioned how we should do those things [19:45] from the main branch dir [19:45] you'd place the tar.gz in ../build-area [19:45] cd debian; bzr builddeb -S [19:46] that will build the source in ../../build-area [19:46] form that you can run pbuilder then [19:46] s/from/with [19:46] _Groo_: for koffice 2.2? [19:47] <_Groo_> apachelogger: well i guess JontheEchidna will be the guy for 2.2, im just curious [19:48] _Groo_: no... that is: get koffice 2.2 into lucid+1 by any means, ensure it works on lucid, backport to PPA, if we are sure it is qualified ask for backport [19:48] nothing to do with revu [19:48] * apachelogger thinks that revu would explode with such a large tarball anyway ;) [19:48] <_Groo_> apachelogger: ahh revu is for little things then? [19:49] no, usually for new packages only [19:49] though I for one also like to have package updates there [19:49] <_Groo_> apachelogger: isnt 2.2 a new package? :D [19:49] but for the large parts of KDE we usually just work with the packaging branches [19:49] then someone reviews the changes to the packaging and sponsors [19:49] _Groo_: it is an upgrade [19:49] <_Groo_> apachelogger: ah ok :) im curious how things work behind the scenes [19:50] apachelogger: ya sure it should be in a dir called build-area or I have to set this somewhere? [19:51] Quintasan: I am not sure, this changed recently, earlier you would have it in the branch dir itself [19:51] maybe try that [19:51] before that it was $branchdir/tarballs or something [19:51] not very presistent TBH [19:51] oh [19:51] apachelogger: how do you backport stuff exactly from lucid? backport the bazaar branch? [19:51] koffice won't even release their RCs for 2.2 until after we release: http://wiki.koffice.org/index.php?title=Schedules/KOffice/2.2/Release_Plan [19:52] or the git/svn one [19:52] ARGH [19:52] dpkg-source: error: patch -s -t -F 0 -N -p1 -u -V never -g0 -b -z .dpkg-orig gave error exit status 1 [19:52] shadeslayer: depends really ;) [19:53] shadeslayer: first question is, does the lucid packaging build without changes on karmic [19:53] apachelogger: hmm and whats the second? [19:53] really, I must have fcked up my system somewhere [19:53] if so, then there are scripts and vodoo magic that automagically grabs the lucid package and modifies it to build for karmic [19:53] ah ok,and what about ppa's? [19:53] if it is not a developer must make the appropriate changes to the packaging and upload manually [19:54] hmm [19:54] shadeslayer: ppas do not have anything to do with ubuntu backports [19:54] that is a whole different paradigm of package deployment ;) [19:54] Quintasan: bzr status [19:54] * JontheEchidna eats paradigms for dinner [19:54] Quintasan: if you had sent me the tar.gz may I would know :P [19:54] JontheEchidna: opportunistic ones I hope [19:54] yus :D [19:55] modified: debian/{changelog,control} [19:55] seriously [19:55] apachelogger: oh suppose i upload a git checkout of choqok and backport it to karmic,how would one accomplish that? [19:55] logically.. like via flowchart :P [19:55] * _Groo_ is reviewing is kchviewer... btw, should i name it kchviewer-kde4 OR should i replace the kde3 version? i recommend replacing, since the new version has ki slave for kde4 etc.. [19:56] <_Groo_> kio* [19:56] hm [19:56] ssh hates me [19:57] -.- [19:58] brrrh, KDE3 colour schemes to KDE4, should I just do what I need manually or should I try to write converter [19:58] apachelogger: this is what i do for my PPA : tarball git dev version > build for lucid > upload to PPA > copy evrything from lucid folder to karmic folder > run : dch -D karmic -v version -b > Type no change backport > build for karmic > upload for karmic [19:58] _Groo_: kchmviewer? [19:59] apachelogger: really, wtf I have reinstalled dpkg-dev and it didnt help [19:59] btw debuild is in which package? [19:59] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: yeah [19:59] _Groo_: we already have a kde4 version of that, although it's a bit out of date [20:00] debug1: No more authentication methods to try. [20:00] Permission denied (publickey). [20:00] clearly I am locked out of ktown [20:00] how depressing -.- [20:00] JontheEchidna: could you check that my key is in the authorized list [20:00] apachelogger: where's that? [20:00] ah [20:00] nvm [20:00] * apachelogger had a major typo right there [20:00] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: oh.. yes you do.. i must be blind.. i could swear it wasnt there, lol [20:01] gah... [20:01] _Groo_: an update to 5.1 would be nice, though you'd have to go through the freeze exception process now that we're in feature freeze: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess [20:01] update-apt-xapi takes up 50 pc cpu [20:01] apachelogger: there is a key that belongs to you [20:02] Quintasan: can you please send me your tar.gz [20:02] neversfelde: I have way too many keys though :D [20:02] *fetching tar* [20:02] apachelogger: :) [20:03] apachelogger: ya want me to email it? it will take some time [20:04] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: argh, cant i just make the package and send to revu? this bureacreucy is like pulling teeth (i have so many at work already) [20:04] after freeze things just get harder and harder :( [20:05] Quintasan: well [20:05] scp the tar.bz2 [20:05] extract your tar.gz [20:05] extract the tar.bz2 to orig or something [20:05] then diff -urNad the two dirs [20:06] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: if no one else gonna do it i can... [20:07] _Groo_: I can do it if you really don't want to [20:07] urNad... hehehe :P [20:07] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: lol im already building it for me... whats a PITA its the process lol [20:07] heh [20:08] that sure will be converted to opportunistic packaging [20:08] then feature freeze will be no moar [20:08] muhahaha [20:08] apachelogger: nothing [20:08] apachelogger: a.k.a no output [20:08] Quintasan: your system is the broken [20:09] wut [20:09] awesome [20:09] Quintasan: try reinstalling devscripts [20:09] maybe that helps [20:09] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: making it.. so i can brag i have THREE packages in kubuntu lol.. oohhh such power!!! [20:09] ^^ [20:12] uh [20:12] Revu is of the slow kind today. [20:13] apachelogger: hmm nothing :/ [20:13] plz commit and push, I'll try here [20:14] apachelogger: free for a sec [20:14] neversfelde and i want to talk ;) [20:14] ? [20:14] do we? [20:14] apachelogger: shall I change your ssh key on ktown? [20:14] neversfelde: um #ubuntu-classroom-chat? [20:16] neversfelde: no, all good :) [20:16] k [20:16] neversfelde: just had a typo in the username [20:16] apachelogger: pushed [20:17] <_Groo_> will rekonq be available in the kubuntu cd? [20:17] no [20:17] _Groo_: dont think so,or i would know ;) [20:18] though its a shame really [20:19] I wonder why my system stared acting up [20:20] oh btw theres a bug about partitions not mounting on lucid... [20:20] via dolphin that is [20:20] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: agreed.. rekonq is getting to become an awesome little browser :) im a big fan right from the start [20:21] <_Groo_> hope rekonq will be the default for 10.10 [20:21] _Groo_: im the docs maintainer :P [20:21] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: nice :) [20:21] im slowly getting to development region in it :) [20:22] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: im just an evangelizer, bug reporter and private packager (aka i do packages for myslef, lol) [20:22] lol, did anyone here play Ace Attorney? [20:22] Quintasan: every last one [20:22] <_Groo_> Quintasan: for linux? [20:22] _Groo_: oh and we wont be releasing 0.4 very soon...too many bugs right now :) [20:22] JontheEchidna: did you see the NO GAMES gif? [20:23] * shadeslayer just plays World of Goo on linux [20:23] Quintasan: nope [20:23] JontheEchidna: http://imagebin.ca/view/KnxLPq4H.html [20:23] * _Groo_ finished GOO twice already on linux [20:23] * _Groo_ with a open source radeon driver even [20:24] i just started playing :P [20:24] Quintasan: ha [20:24] * apachelogger is hunting OCDs in WoG [20:24] almost got spring through [20:24] OCD's ? [20:24] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: yeah i know 0.4 is still a bit off but rekonq is coming along very nicely and FAST!!! is already the fastest/better browser in kde land, and dare i say in linux land (since chromium/firefox are other beasts all together) [20:24] im at fall :P [20:25] * _Groo_ lost is WoW addiction three months 4 days 12 hours 40 min and 12 secs ago [20:25] WoW ;/ [20:25] _Groo_: ah we have Andrea and the rekonq team to thank for that,were also looking forward to a change in name in 0.5 [20:25] * Quintasan can't upload much due to his sis playing WoW [20:25] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: why?? rekonq is so cute [20:26] <_Groo_> Quintasan: save her!!! wow will suck her dry!!! [20:26] _Groo_: try pronouncing it [20:26] <_Groo_> Quintasan: i do, im portuguese.. rekonq is very easy to pronouce for me [20:26] <_Groo_> Quintasan: re... konq... [20:26] shadeslayer: Obsessive Completion Distinction [20:26] <_Groo_> Quintasan: reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.kkkkkkkkkkkkkkoooooooooonnnnnqqqqqqqqqqqq [20:27] _Groo_: hehe.. dunno,thats the general sentiment amongst the kde community [20:27] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: most are germ(ans) [20:27] shadeslayer: it's special targets, where you mustnt loose any goos, or rescue an insane amount of them [20:27] mostly by thinking outside the box [20:27] apachelogger: oooh [20:27] quite the fun [20:27] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: rekonq might be had for them.. but that way so akregator, or konqueror [20:27] shadeslayer: is this out of date? http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/rekonq/2010-February/001140.html [20:28] * shadeslayer has a insanely slow connection [20:28] JontheEchidna: yeah actually,i found 2 new bugs since then [20:28] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: showstopper ¬¬ [20:29] _Groo_: yeah theyre showstoppers [20:29] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: ;) [20:29] _Groo_: one of them concerns LP :) [20:29] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: btw any idea when rekonq will have java support? [20:29] _Groo_: the other is a FTP bug :P [20:29] _Groo_: doesnt it already? [20:30] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: dont think so.. never did.. [20:30] hmm.. well ive never tried out java so really dont know.... [20:30] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: i believe youll have to port the java support from konqueror, which is much better then calling the plugin API.. konqueror calls the jvm directly [20:30] _Groo_: and about when itll be possible... whenever Andrea marks it in the feature plan :P [20:30] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: yeah i was just curious [20:31] _Groo_: most of our code is konqueror code with optimization [20:31] _Groo_: you use the git version? [20:32] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: i know, like the adblock and the kget integration, thats why im sayong about getting the konqueror code for java [20:32] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: yeah, my own packages, just installed git from 15 min ago [20:32] :P [20:33] _Groo_: try this one out : https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=228613 [20:33] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: yeah, no java [20:33] KDE bug 228613 in general "rekonq crashes on middle click on launchpad net/~rohangarg" [Crash,New] [20:33] * _Groo_ tests [20:34] what is the best way (across linux distros) to detect hardware platform (ie. i386, amd64 , ppc) [20:34] _Groo_: middle click on any link inside the ppa and youll get a crash [20:34] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: working fine here [20:34] apachelogger: can you checkout : https://launchpad.net/~scattino/+archive/ppa : it has the 4.3.95 kde binding [20:35] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: middle cicked the hell out of the urls in the ppa and all over.. opened all of them without a peep [20:35] _Groo_: hmm.. keep trying to middle click 2-3 times... [20:35] Quintasan: this works just fine here [20:35] wierd [20:35] damn it [20:35] Quintasan: is your system all up-to-date? [20:35] maybe the updates fixed it [20:35] apachelogger: yeah [20:36] then I do not know [20:36] apachelogger: though one thing bugs me, apt tries to update blogilio for eternity [20:36] I remember updating it seven times today [20:36] neversfelde probably broke something ;) [20:36] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: opened 33 tabs with midle click.. i believe qt 4.6.2 might have fixed it [20:36] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: karmic? [20:37] yeah probably fixed [20:37] _Groo_: yeah [20:37] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: im on lucid here [20:37] anyways, I'm pretty screwd if I can't compile at random [20:37] didnt crash here too ;) [20:37] _Groo_: try this https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=228660 [20:37] KDE bug 228660 in general "rekonq crashes on ftp protocol" [Crash,New] [20:38] _Groo_: maybe this ones fixed in 4.6.2 ;) [20:38] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: added my findings to bug 228613 [20:38] Launchpad bug 228613 in inkscape "Zoom position not saved if file is not modified" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/228613 [20:38] <_Groo_> let me see this one [20:39] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: jon i did the package , should i send it to revu for MOTU spanking? [20:39] ok :) [20:39] _Groo_: package upgrades generally get bugs at LP [20:40] you'll have to do one anyways for teh FF3 [20:40] *FFe [20:40] apachelogger: what happened to insanity ? [20:41] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: yeah i know, im gonna open a needs-packaging bug, add it to changelog with lp:etc and upload it to revu [20:41] _Groo_: upgrade bugs aren't the same as needs-packaging bugs, last I checked [20:41] Oh btw are you still accepting needs-pacakging bugs? [20:41] im thinking of opening one with libjoschy [20:41] shadeslayer: no new packages for 10.04 :( [20:42] JontheEchidna: well your loss.... recorditnow wont build ;) [20:42] shadeslayer: it's already in the archive [20:42] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: aarrrggh how do i do for a upgrade bug? [20:42] JontheEchidna: recorditnow? [20:42] _Groo_: just a bug... with the package... [20:42] shadeslayer: yes, though it fails to build [20:42] shadeslayer: that's a bug that can be fixed [20:42] JontheEchidna: thats why [20:42] i have the lib in my PPA [20:42] DAMN [20:43] brb downloading lucid [20:43] JontheEchidna: Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 7.3.16), pkg-kde-tools (>= 0.5.0), kdelibs5-dev, libx11-dev, libxcursor-dev, libxext-dev [20:43] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: 228660 is still crashing rekonq, BUT if you open another ftp.. like ftp.opera.com it works.. [20:43] JontheEchidna: you need libjoschy in there too [20:44] _Groo_: weird rright [20:44] shadeslayer: oh, I thought you were talking about kffmpegthumbnailer for a second [20:44] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: might be a bad implemented ftp server.. nvidia might be using a windows ftp server.. did you tried with firefox/chromium or even got forbids konqueror? [20:44] shadeslayer: we already have recorditnow, but we just wont' be able to upgrade it [20:44] JontheEchidna: should i mail michal.zajac@gmail.com about it? [20:44] JontheEchidna: lol [20:45] shadeslayer: \o [20:45] shadeslayer: or just talk to him in person (Quintasan) [20:45] That's me [20:45] Quintasan: oh right [20:45] :) [20:45] well, not in person but... ;) [20:45] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: what do you mean with the apcakeg? i attach the package.tar.gz to the bug report? oO [20:45] Quintasan: oh yeah,if you want to upgrade the package i spent the past 3 days packaging it :P [20:46] _Groo_: yeah, the tar, diff.gz/debian.tar.gz and the .dsc [20:46] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: ok, gonna do it ASAP [20:46] bug title something like "upgrade to $ver [20:46] * _Groo_ is VERY lazy [20:46] or something [20:46] JontheEchidna: might doing kffmpegthumbnailer? just please change libjpeg7-dev to libjpeg-dev and remove ffmpegthumbnailer in depends of the package? My system is pretty borked now :S [20:46] shadeslayer: there is a new version? [20:46] Quintasan: kk [20:46] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: what about "for JontheEchidna eyes only?" [20:47] lol [20:47] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: should lift some eyebrows [20:47] Quintasan: hmm...no new upstream release [20:47] shadeslayer: I belive 0.7 sits in universe in Lucid [20:47] Quintasan: but the git version needs a new build dep [20:47] claydoh, yo [20:47] shadeslayer: and that would be? [20:47] test [20:47] oh [20:47] Quintasan: libjoschy [20:48] claydoh, watching you build kmymoney 3.96 [20:48] atleast waiting for it to finish building on amd64 [20:48] Quintasan: my badly packaged libs : https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/playground/+packages : :P [20:48] on https://launchpad.net/~claydoh/+archive/kmymoney-kde-sc-4.4/+packages [20:48] shadeslayer: anyways, we ain't going to upload git version to universe [20:48] anyway just wanted to say hi [20:48] Quintasan: yeah i know :) [20:49] Quintasan: just letting you know though.. [20:49] ookay [20:49] and say thaks [20:49] I will unbork my system first == format [20:49] thanks [20:49] Quintasan: libjpeg-dev is nonexistant. you mean libjpeg62-dev? [20:49] Quintasan: hehe... [20:49] wut [20:49] <_Groo_> what are you guys talking about recorditnow? [20:49] shadeslayer: it is all crappy and things [20:49] kubotu is superior [20:49] jonathan@jonathan-laptop:~/src/shaman$ apt-cache show libjpeg-dev [20:49] JontheEchidna: I testbuilt it in lucid and libjpeg-dev worked [20:49] jonathan@jonathan-laptop:~/src/shaman$ [20:49] apachelogger: hehe [20:50] apachelogger: what happened though? went rogue? [20:50] ah, virtual package [20:50] JontheEchidna: well, it builds fine with libjpeg62-dev [20:50] Provides: libjpeg-dev [20:50] no, it just was like that [20:50] Quintasan: no [20:50] Quintasan: use the libjpeg-dev [20:50] apachelogger: no what? [20:50] Quintasan: dont build against that in particular [20:50] okay, I'm just telling it works :P [20:50] just build depend on that virtual packag [20:50] kk [20:51] <_Groo_> does it has x11grab now (recordit)? i asked it for the author ages ago (since recodmydesktop is broken in radeon) [20:51] <_Groo_> anyway.. lets build the beast :) [20:51] _Groo_: lemme see [20:52] _Groo_: oh btw youll need libjoschy before you build ;) [20:52] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: libwhat??? [20:52] libjoschy [20:53] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: figures.. [20:53] _Groo_: http://gitorious.org/joschy/joschy [20:53] * _Groo_ goes find and compile libjoschy [20:53] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: thanks [20:53] _Groo_: hehe... [20:54] _Groo_: i know this software in and out now :P [20:54] took me 3-4 days to figure out :D [20:54] hit me with everything from FTBFS to build-dep errors [20:54] oh man what did I do that it broke so badly? [20:55] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: lol why? it says so in the make build! lol [20:55] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: did you build it in a ppa maybe... groo is soooooooooo lazy [20:56] _Groo_: yeah i built it in a PPA,slow net connection [20:56] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: is it published? [20:56] and it took 4-5 hours for one build to go thorugh [20:56] _Groo_: yes [20:56] _Groo_: but its in playground and lacks polish [20:56] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: rohan? [20:57] _Groo_: yeah [20:57] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: i dont care [20:57] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: i live on the edge :) [20:57] _Groo_: ~rohangarg [20:57] _Groo_: its fine in terms of binary... just lacks a proper description etc [20:58] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: i got it.. i just wanted to steal your diff.. like i said.. laaaaaaaazy [20:58] :O [20:58] _Groo_: Grrrrr... [20:58] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: lol... [20:58] Quintasan: kffmpegthumbnailer uploaded [20:58] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: why make when you can copy! [20:58] _Groo_: whats your ppa page? [20:58] _Groo_: hehe [20:59] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: look for padoca virtual in launchpad [20:59] _Groo_: of course... i did that too ;) [20:59] JontheEchidna: thanks! [21:00] * shadeslayer steals _Groo_'s ktorrent diffs [21:00] i needed those :P [21:01] oh well ill pacakage ktorrent tommorow... have to go to sleep right now :) [21:01] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: lol wait a few min, im gonna upload the beta1+ yesterdays git.. which is much more stable [21:01] 2.30 AM.... good morning :) [21:01] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: where are you? asia [21:02] _Groo_: ktorrent migrated to git? when? [21:02] _Groo_: yea [21:02] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: sorry, svn i mean [21:02] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: brazil over here :) [21:02] _Groo_: heh.. :) [21:02] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: its 6:05 pm :) [21:02] 4:02 pm here [21:02] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: 35 degrees celsius.. im melting [21:02] (eastern US) [21:03] 1 degree celsius here [21:03] hehe... its 26oC here [21:03] _Groo_: ill have a looksie tommorow [21:04] right now sleep is all that i can comprehend [21:04] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: lucky bastard... groo misses portugal.. [21:04] _Groo_: lol... i think its too hot too soon : [21:04] itll rise up to 42-45 oC here [21:04] and 9-10 hour power outages :( [21:05] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: looks like brasil.. but a little worst lol [21:05] being in a 3 world country sucks :P [21:05] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: and which one is that? [21:05] _Groo_: India :) [21:06] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: im in the B, you in the I [21:06] Sloppy Internet connections... [21:06] I do think that making a dd image of sys partition after formatting is an awesome idea [21:06] :P [21:06] <_Groo_> Quintasan: oO? [21:06] bye all! [21:07] shadeslayer: bye bye [21:07] cya tommorow! [21:07] _Groo_: you do not know dd? [21:07] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: just uploaded kchviewer and ktorrent, check it tomorrow [21:07] _Groo_: sure ;) [21:07] <_Groo_> Quintasan: yes.. but why dd the /sys? [21:07] _Groo_: dd system partition [21:08] <_Groo_> Quintasan: aaaaaaaaadddddddddddd dd IMAGE... i must be tired... nvm... [21:09] <_Groo_> Quintasan: for some crazy reason i was thinking in dd if=/dev/zero of=/sys... or something like that... disregard.. its the beer speaking [21:09] claydoh, quick question are you building kmymoney 3.96 for amd64? [21:10] its in the queue [21:11] would someone review kfritz http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kfritz [21:11] I want to try to get a ffe for it, whould be sad, if it cannot go in, because upstream did a lot of work to make it distributable for us [21:12] claydoh, thanks [21:13] neversfelde: REVU couldn't extract the source :( [21:13] Quintasan: source format 3.0 [21:13] oh [21:15] neversfelde: the debian dir itself looks fine [21:16] neversfelde: advocating [21:16] Quintasan: REVU is not working with packages that use source format 3.0, so thiss is not a packaging problem? [21:17] Quintasan: k, thank you [21:28] so I need another MOTU :) [21:28] someone around? [21:32] why another? you have two ack, jr and Quintasan [21:34] Lex79: mhh, jr's one is old [21:34] :( [21:34] JontheEchidna: ^^ :D [21:34] anyway, I am going to write the ffe later this evening [23:22] \o [23:25] w00h00 8 mins [23:27] apachelogger: ping [23:35] Lex79: there should be a new kmldonkey 2.0.5 release with 4.4.1, do you now, where the extragear tarballs are published? Nothing on ktown. [23:36] ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.4.0/src/extragear/ [23:37] but it seems not released yet [23:37] and there is no 4.4.1 directory in ftp [23:39] mhh, toma said it should be there [23:45] testin [23:45] はは [23:45] awesome [23:46] Riddell: ibus with anthy on pl_PL works fine, good work :) [23:48] neversfelde: ask to toma where is the source if it's not in ktown [23:48] Lex79: yes