/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/02/27/#launchpad-dev.txt

mwhudsonlifeless: different problem now00:04
lifelessmwhudson: tell me if you want to talk about it00:05
mwhudsonlifeless: keep an eye on https://code.staging.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/linux/trunk if you're curious how it goes00:05
lifelessmondayish00:05
mwhudsonlifeless: sure00:05
mwhudsonright00:05
mwhudsoncertainly not now :-)00:05
lifelessits mah birthday :P00:05
mwhudsonoh, happy bday!00:05
lifelessciao00:05
* wgrant is slightly scared by Launchpad classes that inherit private Twisted classes.00:17
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wgrantsinzui: Hmm. The default advanced bug search page has both "Show only bugs with linked branches" and "Show only bugs without linked branches", yet it still returns all of the bugs.02:12
sinzuiYep02:12
wgrantHas both of those selected, that is.02:12
sinzuiIt is insane02:12
wgrantLess insane than before, though.02:12
sinzuiabel and I wanted radio buttons to who mutually exclusive states02:12
wgrantAh.02:12
sinzuiI had to do a search to prove I would get results02:13
sinzuiI intend to report a bug about it02:13
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Pilkysinzui: you around?16:26
sinzuiI am16:26
Pilkyjust going to do some mockups for the team page16:27
Pilkybased on the current design16:27
Pilkygot two questions before I start though16:27
Pilky1. you said on the list that the emphasis on certain information is wrong, what bits would you consider the most important to emphasise?16:28
Pilky2. Does the list of pending members need to be shown to people who can't accept a new member?16:29
sinzui1. The projects and packages that a team owns or creates.16:31
sinzui   What are the latest bugs, blueprints, questions, and branches that the team is assigned...We should find a away to indicate if a team is involved in translations.16:31
sinzui2. All team members should be able to see who is pending, or if the user is himself in the pending list. As for everyone else, we show it to make the possible change visible, but I do not think it is necessary to be visible on the index page16:33
Pilkyok16:34
Pilkywell, I'll have a go at mocking something up and then post it to the list. I'll try a few variations.16:35
sinzuiPilky: I really do not like the approach we have taken to show the latest <bug|blueprint|...> on pages. Some items might be months old. I have suggested a changelog or facebook wall approach to show recent activity. This may work for projet, but not necessarilly teams16:35
Pilkyyeah it does cause quite a bit of clutter, I'll try looking at ways to simplify it16:36
sinzuiWhat many users want to know (about themselves or others) is what has happened recently, what do I need to do next.16:36
Pilkythe wall approach is slightly iffy legally now, seeing as facebook just got a patent on combined news feeds for activity on a site :/16:37
sinzuichangelog is an metaphor that cannot be challenged.16:37
Pilkyyeah16:37
Pilkywell I'm pretty sure there's some prior art as with half of software patents, but I'll have a look at some sort of change log for the team16:38
Pilkywell I'll hopefully have a few mockups in a few hours16:39
sinzuiThe design has been limited by implementation details, such each box has only one type of object. I want the code to 1. allow me to have a mixed list of objects to show. 2. allow me to set filters on the page so that I see only the kinds of objects|events that interest me16:39
sinzuiMy hope is that if we can have mixed objects and filters, we can solve a lot of wasted space on the page--either empty spaces, or boxes of information that the user does not care about.16:40
Pilkyyeah16:41
Pilkywell I'll try some ideas, if we can get the team page cleaned up a bit then hopefully a lot of that can be transferred to other pages.16:42
Pilkysinzui: you around? I've got some mockups19:50
lifelessmoin20:13
jelmermwhudson, hi21:08
mwhudsonjelmer: hello21:43
jelmermwhudson, I've tried to reproduce the bug you were seeing with gedit21:45
jelmerbut I can't reproduce it by pulling 1k revisions at a time from a local git repo into a local bzr repo21:45
mwhudsonjelmer: and it just worked?21:45
mwhudsonjelmer: hmm21:45
mwhudsonjelmer: linux failed on staging in the same way as locally: https://code.staging.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/linux/trunk21:45
jelmermwhudson, yes21:45
jelmermwhudson, this was from not inside of launchpad though but from the commandline21:46
mwhudsonwell21:46
mwhudsonthat shouldn't make a difference21:46
jelmermwhudson, So you could reproduce the issue with both gedit and linux?22:02
mwhudsonjelmer: i didn't try gedit on staging actually22:56
jelmermwhudson: ah, ok23:01
jelmermwhudson: staging is running a recent bzr-git, isn't it?23:02
jelmerso maybe that happened to have the bug that gedit is breaking on fixed23:02
jelmermwhudson: I'm running bzr pull --limit=1000 for the kernel now23:02
jelmerdo you know after how many revisions it broke?23:02
wgrantIIRC it was on the third run.23:09
jelmerwgrant, thanks23:12

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