[00:00] <wgrant> akgraner: That's a bug. The team has been merged, so it shouldn't show on your list.
[00:01] <wgrant> sinzui: Do you know of an existing bug for that?
[00:01] <akgraner> wgrant, it does :-(  can someone from LP remove it?
[00:01] <sinzui> wgrant: keithy: the bug is so large it is its own blueprint
[00:02] <akgraner> wgrant, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-women/+members?active_start=150&active_batch=75  just so you can see what I see :-)
[00:02] <wgrant> akgraner: Yeah, I found it there.
[00:02] <sinzui> persons and teams that merged and deactivated show up in a zillion places. We need a job system to cleanup after merge/deactivation/suspension
[00:02] <wgrant> sinzui: Ah.
[00:04] <keithy> ok... scmproj looks like the kind of thing to copy
[01:42] <keithy> if I had a licence that required people to play a "free" online game before it was free, would that be within the OSI guidlines?
[01:43] <keithy> i.e. you can have this under GPL , but if you play this game its MIT
[01:43] <keithy> for you
[01:43] <sinzui> keithy: I think you need to ask the OSI. I think the answer is yes because some licenses ask that send email or card to say thanks.
[01:44] <keithy> cool!
[01:44] <wgrant> That doesn't pass the desert island test, does it?
[01:44] <keithy> is there one?
[01:45] <wgrant> sinzui: They can ask that, but they cannot mandate it.
[01:45] <sinzui> wgrant: yes
[01:45] <wgrant> The DFSG's desert island test is a useful gauge of that aspect of a license.
[01:46] <wgrant> Basically, I must be able to use the software if I am stranded on a desert island with no means of contact.
[01:46] <keithy> ok I will scratch the "massage licence" idea I had
[01:48] <keithy> https://launchpad.net/groan
[01:48] <wgrant> Also, please don't invent your own license.
[01:48] <keithy> new project
[01:48] <wgrant> It makes life harder for just about everybody.
[01:48] <keithy> that would be good
[01:49] <keithy> sorry... bit of resentment popped up
[01:53] <sinzui> keithy: About 20 projects have http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/ That is always fun to read
[01:54] <keithy> yeah, except I didnt like the profanity
[01:54] <keithy> and did my own
[03:12] <keithy> can anyone help me with this bzr error aborting commit write group: PathsNotVersionedError(Path(s) are not versioned:
[03:13] <keithy> all I have done (I think) is mv some files
[03:14] <wgrant> keithy: You are explicitly giving the commit command the filenames you want to commit, aren't you?
[03:14] <keithy> no should I
[03:14] <keithy> committing one at a time?
[03:14] <wgrant> No, you shouldn't. I thought that was what created the error.
[03:14] <wgrant> What is the exact command you're executing?
[03:15] <wgrant> And the exact error message?
[03:15] <keithy> deary me, time for bed I think
[03:15] <keithy> -m missing!
[03:15] <wgrant> Ah.
[03:15] <wgrant> That would do it.
[03:16] <keithy> ok feature request - if the list of files begins with a " tell the user to go to bed
[03:16] <keithy> except bash probably doesnt pass the "
[03:17] <keithy> oh I just tested out rename support and I am impressed
[03:19] <keithy> whats a stacking branch again?
[03:20] <keithy> I just did bzr push lp:~keithy/groan/groan
[03:20] <keithy> Using default stacking branch /~keithy/groan/grow at lp-64613584:///~keithy/groan
[03:20] <keithy> Created new stacked branch referring to /~keithy/groan/grow.
[03:20] <keithy> and now I want to switch my "trunk" to ~keithy/groan/groan
[03:30] <MTecknology> If a person ever hits the max (1GB) for a PPA and they have special reason, can that be increased?
[03:51] <thumper> MTecknology: yes
[03:51] <thumper> MTecknology: ask a question on either launchpad or soyuz
[03:52] <MTecknology> thumper: thanks, I was just curious, I'm at <1% so it'll be a while before I need something like that :)
[04:02] <thumper> keithy: a stacked branch is one where we share the revisions with another branch to reduce the amount you have to push to launchpad
[04:02] <thumper> keithy: ideally it should be mostly transparent for users, but sometimes it isn't
[04:05] <MTecknology> awe :( - 15min queue bumped up to 50min
[04:18] <keithy> so if I delete the orignal branch?
[05:03] <MTecknology> :( - my package was going to build in 32min; that was almost 2hr ago - somebody important must be doing a lot of uploads; maybe this 41min left will be accurate
[05:04] <MTecknology> or I'll wake up with a 5k build score :P
[11:08] <oojah> The ppa builder promethium doesn't appear to be accepting jobs.
[11:35] <shadeslayer> hi,i was uploading some packages to my PPA and then canceled the upload with ctrl+C midway,now i cant upload anything with the same package name,even though my repo does not show the package
[11:36] <shadeslayer> the error is : Rejected:
[11:36] <shadeslayer> File recorditnow_0.7+git20100227.orig.tar.gz already exists in KDE Extra stuff, but uploaded version has different contents. See more information about this error in https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/UploadErrors.
[11:36] <shadeslayer> Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification.
[11:45] <wgrant> shadeslayer: You uploaded and deleted that tarball 15 hours ago.
[11:45] <wgrant> Sorry, not that same tarball, but some other file with the same name.
[11:46] <shadeslayer> wgrant: yes
[11:46] <shadeslayer> wgrant: that was another tarball,and i deleted that,but late at night i uploaded another one,which couldnt go through
[11:47] <wgrant> shadeslayer: You cannot upload a file with the same name but different contents.
[11:47] <wgrant> That would be very confusing to all users and computers involved.
[11:47] <shadeslayer> wgrant: ok,so how do i delete the other tarball? the one i accidently uploaded?
[11:48] <shadeslayer> i cant see it in my repo..
[11:48] <wgrant> shadeslayer: You can never upload a file with that name but different contents again. You can find it if you search for superseded packages.
[11:49] <shadeslayer> wgrant: um so im stuck?
[11:49] <wgrant> shadeslayer: No. Just change the name of the tarball.
[11:49] <shadeslayer> hmm
[11:50] <shadeslayer> so like from : recorditnow_0.7+git20100227.orig.tar.gz to recorditnow_0.7+git20100228.orig.tar.gz ?
[11:50] <wgrant> It is always best to not lie about the contents of tarballs, or you will get yourself into the same problem again.
[11:51] <wgrant> Perhaps add +repack, or +2
[11:51] <shadeslayer> wgrant: ah ok
[11:51] <shadeslayer> so like : recorditnow_0.7+git20100227+repack.orig.tar.gz
[11:52] <wgrant> Something like that, yes.
[11:52] <wgrant> How did you get into the situation where you had two different tarballs with the same filename?
[11:53] <shadeslayer> wgrant: hmm i need to figure that out too ;)
[11:57] <shadeslayer> the amd64 builders look pretty loaded ;)
[13:16] <felipec> something strange is happening with my translations: https://translations.launchpad.net/msn-pecan
[13:17] <felipec> Esperanto is shown as Newly translated, but the changes have already been pushed
[13:21] <slytherin> Hi, I need some clarifications regarding translations done using LP. Can anyone help?
[13:24] <persia> slytherin: Especially for translations stuff, I think you'd do best to ask during not-a-weekend.
[13:24] <persia> And extra points for asking when there's a listed help contact.
[13:24] <lifeless> mail launchpad-users
[13:24] <persia> That's a brilliant idea!
[13:25] <slytherin> Actually I need just one clarification. As per the LP T&C, the translations need to be licensed under 3-clause BSD. I just wanted to know if this needs to be reflected in headers in PO files of my program.
[13:31] <qense> All the branches of Indicator Application (<https://code.launchpad.net/indicator-application>) are showing Internal Server Errors when you try to view them in Loggerhead
[13:44] <lifeless> mwhudson: ^ qense; All the branches of Indicator Application (<https://code.launchpad.net/indicator-application>) are showing Internal Server Errors when you try to view them in Loggerhead
[13:44] <lifeless> mwhudson: (for monday; I think we have a lh fail)
[13:44] <lifeless> losa: loggerhead failing, perhaps ? ^
[14:05] <eagles0513875> hey guys i uploaded a pgp key the other day and its not showing up in my profile i uploaded again and im still waiting for it to show up can anyone tell me if my key has been uploaded
[14:38] <eagles0513875> anyone around in here i just uploaded my pgp key to the key server and it hasnt updated it on my profile
[14:39] <nigelb> eagles0513875: can you describe what steps you took?
[14:40] <eagles0513875> basically i followed this link https://launchpad.net/+help/openpgp-keys.html
[14:42] <nigelb> you pushed the keys
[14:42] <nigelb> ?
[14:42] <eagles0513875> yes
[14:42] <eagles0513875> and it was successful
[14:43] <eagles0513875> nigelb: i never got the confirmation email btw
[14:43] <nigelb> eagles0513875: you got the fingerprint into LP?
[14:43] <eagles0513875> no not yet
[14:44] <eagles0513875> im trying to though
[14:44] <nigelb> what is the error you get?
[14:45] <eagles0513875> no error it said that it was pushed to key serv fine but i never got an email regarding confirming the key
[14:47] <eagles0513875> nigelb: is there somewhere else i should ask
[14:48] <nigelb> eagles0513875: what I dont it is
[14:48] <nigelb> you pushed the key
[14:48] <nigelb> did u paste the fingerprint into launchpad?
[14:48] <eagles0513875> O_o
[14:48] <eagles0513875> i never got a finger print
[14:48] <eagles0513875> wait
[14:48] <eagles0513875> are you talking about the public key id right
[14:49] <eagles0513875> ok sry bout that nigelb that was a screw up on my part
[14:49] <nigelb> hehe
[14:50] <nigelb> eagles0513875: fixed?
[14:51] <eagles0513875> ya i got it
[14:51] <eagles0513875> sry about that
[14:52] <nigelb> eagles0513875: np :) we all do things like that :p
[14:53] <nigelb> (I did it myself.  Twice)
[15:06] <eagles0513875> nigelb: i would love to know how to backup the key
[15:06] <eagles0513875> cuz i swear i did that last time but i guess not
[15:07] <nigelb> eagles0513875: go to your home folder and press ctrl H
[15:07] <eagles0513875> and that does what
[15:08] <nigelb> oh, wait, thats for ssh
[15:08] <eagles0513875> i have my ssh  backed up already
[15:08] <eagles0513875> just never backed up my pgp key
[15:10] <nigelb> eagles0513875: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto#Backing%20up%20and%20restoring%20your%20key%20pair
[15:10] <eagles0513875> ty Nicke
[15:10] <eagles0513875> whoops wrong person tab completion fail there
[15:10] <eagles0513875> nigelb: ty
[15:10] <nigelb> eagles0513875: np :)
[15:11] <eagles0513875> no back to fighting with grub and windows
[15:11] <eagles0513875> :(
[16:47] <shadeslayer> anyone around?
[16:48] <shadeslayer> im giving a session on ppa's and was wondering if someone wants to assist