[00:01] damn copying 7 gig file over smb sure takes forever -.- [00:05] abe3k, check out ssh , I find it much faster [00:05] BluesKaj-Laptop: and much CPU intensive [00:05] BluesKaj-Laptop: and use scp ? [00:06] BluesKaj-Laptop: why didn't I think of that xD [00:06] I don't believe SSH is faster then samba [00:06] abe3k: at what speed are you transferting stuff? [00:06] I'm getting 1.7 MB transfer rate, I would love anything better than that [00:06] are you network , IO, or cpu bound? [00:07] Wireless with 58 Mbits [00:07] that's very slow for 100mb lan [00:07] ahhhhhh [00:07] then you almost at MAX speed [00:07] around 4MB/s [00:07] abe3k, exactly :) [00:07] but 1.7 ..... [00:07] 2MB/s is a nice value [00:07] I think it could be from the wpa-psk but I'm not sure [00:08] right [00:08] your AP has to process all that data [00:08] yeap [00:08] just hook a e-SATA caple [00:08] *cable [00:08] 50MB/s rocks [00:08] Anyone else having problems with Ubuntu One after updating today? [00:08] I know -.- but I'm too lazy tbh [00:08] then you wait [00:09] 2 hours!! [00:09] now I have 16 minutes left so no worries :D [00:14] it would take you 2 min to pick your arse up, and the e-sata cable [00:14] 2 min to hook everything [00:14] and [00:14] and [00:14] and less then 5 min to copy it [00:15] <------- hides in the shadows [00:15] How DOES one configure suspend on the latest version? [00:15] or at least verify it? [00:16] sudo pm-suspend? [00:17] is the 10.04 alpha 3 running pretty stable on a desktop ? ... I'm not sure if I will dare to upgrade :) [00:17] try sudo /etc/acpi/sleep.sh force [00:17] tertitten: its running great on a netbook too! === kermiac_ is now known as kermiac [00:18] tertitten: Still has a few touchy places [00:19] I think theres something is wrong with the gnome-keyring-daemon [00:19] ok, so it's a matter of how brawe I am then :) [00:25] gar, that didn't work [00:27] Looks like there's no suspend and hibernate in the latest Lucid :( [00:27] setuid: Which graphics card? [00:27] /etc/acpi/sleep.sh suspends, but that's manual, not automatic when I shut the lid. [00:27] penguin42, NVidia... worked fine through every Ubuntu release, until last night's update [00:27] what about the screensaver ? [00:28] setuid: There was a note in the /topic a few days ago about it not working for nvidia users [00:28] Lucid has some other broken-ness with the upstream NVidia driver, where I have to jump to one of the vcs before I can jump back into X. Previous versions of Ubuntu, coming out of suspend worked flawlessly, returning me to gnome-screensaver's login window. [00:29] penguin42, I'm not using the Lucid nvidia driver (known to be broken), I'm using the upstream nvidia one (known to work fine) [00:29] Right now, it's not even an available option, so something took suspend/hibernate physically out of the loop [00:29] I wouldn't care if it suspended and broke, THAT I can work with, but there's literally no suspend/resume/hibernate support at all === pascalFR is now known as Parti [00:33] setuid, and how are you managing to use the upstream nvidia driver, sir? [00:33] bjsnider, Compiling/installing it myself, using the NVidia installer [00:33] Been doing that for years now [00:33] great! [00:34] But something broke/removed acpi suspend support [00:34] Irrespective of the video driver being used [00:34] lol, yeah something did indeed [00:42] do lucid lynx packages work on hardy heron? [00:44] mangos, lucid pkges are meant only for lucid , they'll break your hardy setup [00:46] Well, it sort of works, if I echo to /sys/power/state [00:46] But not if I just close the lid [00:47] did you try restarting ? :> [00:47] Yes, many times, with and without s3_bios enabled in my grub.conf [00:47] gnome-power-preferences doesn't even have a suspend or hibernate option anymore [00:47] So thre's no way to configure it [00:48] setuid why don't you try reinstalling that package just to make sure nothing is missing ? [00:49] i currently have ubuntu 8.04 LTS, is it relatively safe to upgrade to 10.04 LTS? [00:49] mangos, Not unless you want to help debug broken issues [00:50] If 8.04 works, stick with it until 10.04 is officially released [00:51] veddy interestink [00:51] * setuid tests [01:00] Ok, well now suspend is back in the relevant apps/menus [01:00] I'll tinker with the options to get it working right with the NVidia driver [01:02] hey, i need to know how to reset my wireless on dell inspiron 1501 [01:02] i dont even know how to install the thing too [01:05] can anyone help me [01:06] koolguy: probaly looking at its manual would help? [01:06] its on a laptop [01:07] and idk where the manual is [01:07] define : reset wifi [01:07] The manual for your laptop? [01:07] We can't help you there [01:07] lol ok [01:08] all im trying to do is reset my wireless internet connection, because i forgot the unlock code which i entered after the WEP key [01:08] rmmod ath5k [01:08] then modprobe ath5k [01:09] right click on NM, edit connections , wifi tab, edit [01:09] ok [01:09] setuid: CALM DOWN [01:10] BUGabundo, uhm, what now? [01:10] you are going WAY to far to do this [01:11] He said reset, not reconfigure [01:11] he means change wifi password [01:12] so what were those commands again, i accidently clicked out [01:13] * BUGabundo headslap [01:13] (2010-02-27 01:09:02) freenode: right click on NM, edit connections , wifi tab, edit [01:13] what were those commands, i keep clickin out of the chat [01:14] last time [01:14] o ok [01:14] next time LEARN not to close chat [01:14] ok [01:14] right click on NM, edit connections , wifi tab, edit [01:14] alright [01:15] alright then what [01:17] that's it [01:17] im in there, but idk what to do from there [01:17] select your network [01:17] edit [01:17] and change pass [01:17] ah ok [01:18] thanks see yall later [01:51] I desided to work on linking upstream bugs using QA report http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/launchpad-database/unlinked-bugwatch.html [01:52] If the bug is upstream but is not confirmed upstream or downstream what do we do with the bug triage it as normal? [01:52] Anzenketh: was that supposed to go to #ubuntu-bugs :)? [01:53] Silly me wrong chat [01:53] Got so many open [02:46] Hi there!... i have a question... is lucid with bugs? [02:49] waltercool may be, its not a final stable release, you shouldn't use it in a productive environment unless you are aware how to fix problems alone [02:50] Sensiva, Im just a ex-gentoo user ;) I cant live with end user products ;) [02:50] :D [02:50] Sensiva: when it breaks (and it /will/ break), you get to keep both pieces! [02:51] Sensiva, But my last time with Lucid was horrble... i hate X errors... [02:51] rww sure [02:55] Hi, I updated to the newest alpha, and now Kile doesn't feel like running latex anymore, any ideas? [02:55] it does run straight from the terminal, it just seems like none of the programs pick up that its there for some reason [02:58] this is wierd, after updating to 10.04 a3 i come to the login screen (after a reboot) and the enter login credentials, and click login, then I need to enter it once more... am I actually logging in twice or what's happening ? [03:01] + 0d1154 (rework how stream volumes affect sink volumes) [03:01] hmm, that's a new change in pulseaudio... what's the upstream commit ID? [03:01] I can't find it.... googling for 0d1154 gives only this exact changelog. === DarkwingDuck_ is now known as DarkwingDuck [03:21] i'm thinking of setting up a test/personal server, and at some point i'll be using lynx, so i'd like to test out a few things on a VM first. One of the things i do now is start my ipv6 tunnel app from init.d - i want to do the same (and a little more) with upstart - start a specific programme (with arguements) and restart it if it does now. I can't quite seem to find a clear specific complete example on the second part. Anyone can gimme a h [03:21] and? http://superuser.com/questions/113779/upstart-scripts spells out what i use now, and my specific requirements. [03:40] guys.. how is the general stability of alpha 3 ? I would want to try it out [03:46] on my x64 lucid installation i cannot execute any of my downlaoded binaries [03:47] ./binaryname always gives a file/directory not found error [03:47] but i can see using a ls -l cmd [03:47] same binaries on my other x64 mint helena works fine [03:53] Hi, I'm using lucid and I cant hibernate anymore, because there simply is no entry for it, I can shutdown, restart, logout and suspend but not hibernate. [03:55] hmm, what opengl level is nouveau 3d supposed to offer on, say, a gf6150? [03:55] Level 0 because opengl isn't officially supported by it yet? :) [04:04] That would explain a bug I am working on. [04:04] Maby. [04:09] RAOF, ping [04:18] er, I mean, when it does "work", what level does it declare? [04:24] hey guys...on lucid...when editing the libanimation.so and animation.xml for magic_lamp_max_waves from "3" to "0" it seems to remove or disable the main Animatons plugin in ccsm/compiz ..these files are before and after edition the xml since the error seems to be withing the xml file and the terminal readout of that error http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/animation%20error.tar.gz [04:25] each time the same thing occurs [04:26] edition=editing [04:40] <_DM_> I'm trying to connect to ubuntu from Win XP thru RealVNC. I'm able to connect and I see a desktop... but I can't see any changes of clicks inside VNC client on windows, I only could see changes on Linux machine screen. There is no firewall and all settings allowed client do changes. [04:40] <_DM_> Any suggestions what could it be? [04:41] good morning, [04:42] <_DM_> Morning... [04:43] ok, I guess 3D games are out of the question for the new Ubuntu release. [04:43] I've tried [04:44] Back to command line prowess. [04:51] Ok, does not work! [04:53] is there any way to view lucid bugs only? [04:56] So, no 3D goodness without Windows? [04:59] bah, 3D eyecandy is for the weak minded! :P [05:02] Ubuntu-Server snapshot I grabbed about 5 hours ago - fresh install, apparently installed successfully, selected "openssh server" "samba server" and "vm host" - on attempting to boot, I promptly get my LCD popping into an unsupported mode [05:02] (H 53.7 kHz, V 85 Hz) [05:03] I've booted into a rescue console and commented out the apparent gfx-setting lines in the grub.conf, but I don't know much bout grub 2 [05:03] and it didn't seem to change anything - though i noticed more grub debug messages, some comments about errors in the config it seemed [05:22] So - it's not GRUB with the issues with graphics - it's the ubuntu loader [05:22] i'm thinking of setting up a test/personal server, and at some point i'll be using lynx, so i'd like to test out a few things on a VM first. One of the things i do now is start my ipv6 tunnel app from init.d - i want to do the same (and a little more) with upstart - start a specific programme (with arguements) and restart it if it does now. I can't quite seem to find a clear specific complete example on the second part. Anyone can gimme a h [05:22] and? http://superuser.com/questions/113779/upstart-scripts spells out what i use now, and my specific requirements. [05:22] and... geeze, why is my question getting cut in two... [05:22] I *think* it's the initrd [05:28] Overand: what GPU? [05:30] DanaG: Some onboard ATI thing on a phenom-era ASUS board [05:30] I can get more specific if need be. [05:30] I'd love to just have this thing boot to a text console. [05:30] ah, then it's likely kernel-mode-setting setting it to a mode the LCD can't handle. [05:30] try passing "radeon.modeset=0" on console. [05:30] Yeah, so ti seems. [05:30] Alright [05:31] And if that works, then the bug is probably something about KMS detecting an incorrect mode. [05:31] I install ssh servers on all my boxes, so I can remotely connect to diagnose those sorts of things. [05:31] Oo, I manged to get a grub error, hang on, [05:31] DanaG: I'm only seeing the beginning of the kernel loading - so I can't tell why I can't SSH in, heh. [05:32] ah, then modeset=0 should help at least with that. [05:32] Success. [05:33] The "Rescue" boot mode should perhaps be doing that. [05:33] I should look for an existing bug on this - I've never really messed with launchpad [05:34] grr, stupid "japa" -- refuses to work when it can't mmap the alsa device. [05:38] hmm - it appears that for 'success' (i.e. seeing why the system doesn't boot, heh) - I need to have both radeon.modeset=0 and modeset=0 [05:39] Heh - well, I have a lot of starup scripts exiting with non-zero exit statuses - it looks like I may be having issues as a result of having set up something involving crypto, or *it* having done so anyway [05:39] I have nothing particularly weird, and I get "ureadahead-other exited with status 4" a bunch of times. [05:40] Stupid ureadahead. [05:40] I get a fatal error with modprobe loading something padlock something [05:40] plus a few others [05:40] looks like ti decided to use a crypted swap because i told it to use crypted home (but not crypted FS in general) [05:42] (or naybe that just happened because i told it to use LVM?) [05:51] how do I find out what gfx driver I'm using? [05:51] I had to boot in safe graphics mode [05:56] phixxor: the Xorg log in /var/log/ should say. I use the radeon driver and have a tonne of lines starting with RADEON in there. [05:57] gotcha [06:00] anyone using an all-in-one motherboard for intel? and if so how are the drivers working for video and ethernet? [06:03] DanaG: is there a 'right' way to make those 'stick' ? grub 2 seems very very different [06:03] Check /etc/default/grub [06:03] perfect, thanks [06:06] well my old way of disabling fbcon no longer works (suggesting that the latest update finally supports my video card and chipset) [06:06] now then, text is unreadably small on consoles, time to figure out how to make it larger [06:06] ah, dpkg-reconfigure console-setup [06:08] ok we'll see if that works [06:08] I picked the largest (16) [06:10] nope still many times too small [06:11] un214, Use aalib to make ascii text made of smaller ascii text ;) [06:11] oh come on [06:13] ;p [06:15] you may be able to edit /etc/default/console-setup to make it manually even bigger. [06:16] ugh vga=791 doesn't work either [06:16] Anyone have the ip address for opendns? [06:16] you may be able to edit /etc/default/console-setup to make it manually even bigger. [06:16] DanaG, I took the plunge and upgraded to lucid [06:16] un214, That's ignored when using KMS [06:18] ok let's see what that does [06:18] stupid gnome... the big "turn on bluetooth" button DOES NOT WORK. [06:18] Jordan_U: which I wasn't using until old console finally broke [06:19] Stupid gnome bluetooth thingy also doesn't connect to pulseaudio! [06:19] no effect--like it didn't even read the file [06:20] did you do update-initramfs afterwards? [06:20] no I didn't -- duh [06:22] still no effect [06:25] Grr, stupid apport. [06:25] The program crashed on an assertion failure, but the message could not be retrieved. Apport does not support reporting these crashes. [06:26] DanaG: i could live with apport crashing but not flash being a resource hog [06:26] how could I find out why I had to use safe-graphics mode to boot from the live cd? [06:27] this is really really annoying [06:28] Is there a "proper way" to manage software raid in recent ubuntu revisions other than mdadm? === ectropy is now known as litropy === litropy is now known as ectropy === phixxor is now known as phixxor_ === ectropy is now known as litropy [06:31] dpkg-reconfigure console-setup ignores whatever font I set anyway [06:34] hmm, try just editing the file and running sudo setupcon [06:34] or sudo setupcon --force [06:34] oh, and I think console-terminus font may have other sizes? [06:34] I already figured that out [06:34] setupcon seems to do nothing [06:35] * eagles0513875 grabs npviewer and puts a bullet through its head [06:35] hmm. Anyone familiar with upstart? i need help with a startup script i want on a system i'm working on [06:35] ok actually it did [06:36] now I get to run it at every boot or something [06:36] hmm, maybe check the init scripts for console-setup? [06:36] if there even are any. [06:37] anyone else in here hate the npviewer (flash) or is it just me [06:37] what is this npviewer of which you speak? [06:37] phixxor: flash [06:38] isn't flash flash [06:38] no [06:38] why isn't it? [06:38] eagles0513875, That's nspluginwrapper [06:38] not sure to be honest but it is a resource hog big time [06:38] Jordan_U: im not suprised if the nspluginwrapper and npviewer are the same program i could be wrong [06:40] Jordan_U: found a lp bug re nspluginwrapper and npviewer they are one in the same program [06:41] eagles0513875, That's what I was trying to tell you. [06:41] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nspluginwrapper/+bug/141613 [06:42] Launchpad bug 141613 in nspluginwrapper "npviewer.bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [High,Confirmed] [06:42] Jordan_U: but both of those are related to flash [06:42] eagles0513875, npviewer isn't flash itself, it's the wrapper around flash ( or any other 32 bit netscape plugin ) [06:43] * eagles0513875 thinks i should install ia32-libs to ensure backwards compatibility since im on 64bit [06:43] DanaG: Thanks a ton for the help - I'm up and running more-or-less perfectly now. [06:44] ok that's almost right [06:44] now just to get it into the initramfs [06:44] the settings are there but setupcon is not [06:52] Hey, I have a NVIDIA card (8600 gt) and I cannpt get a alpha 3 live cd to boot. After selecting Try or Install now, I get a black screen, and no matter how long I wait, it only hangs [06:56] did you check the cd for defects? [06:57] Yes. [06:57] I think there is an option for safe gui [06:58] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/528277 Others are having this problem I just wanted to know if there is a way to work around, like a safe gui you mentioned. How can I do that? [06:58] Launchpad bug 528277 in ubiquity "screen goes blank when booting to live environment with some nouveau Graphics Cards" [Undecided,New] [07:00] is mono currently broken in lucid? [07:00] Wutzan, You can install via the alternate CD then try to fix things from there. [07:00] Jordan_U: Is that the only way, my bandwidth is limited at the moment, I'd perfer not to redownload a whole cd [07:01] Wutzan, press f4 [07:01] there you find the save graphices mode [07:01] *graphics [07:01] I just upgraded from karmic and a bunch of mono packages are being held back for broken dependencies [07:01] is this a known problem? [07:01] At the selection screen? Because it doesn't appear. [07:02] It has other modes, but not safe graphics [07:02] pedrocr: that happens every so often in devel versions, generally fixes itself [07:02] can you see at the bottom of the screen there is choices like f1 to help and f2 to language [07:03] Yes [07:03] And f4 is for modes, but there is no mode for safe graphics [07:03] and f4 modes? [07:03] rww, I know, I was just wondering if it was a known bug or if I should file a bugreport [07:03] I don't know [07:04] rww, seems like there is a dependency on mono-gac (= 2.4.4~svn151842-1ubuntu1) that isn't in the archive [07:04] everything else seems to be 2.4.3+dfsg-1ubuntu2 [07:04] Wutzan, try reset then f4 again [07:05] pedrocr: I don't usually bother filing unless the problem happens on the main mirror for several days [07:05] rww, ok [07:05] Same thing, I guess I'll pass on trying the alpha since clearly it's going to be a lot of work to fix [07:07] Wutzan, that is alpha were you help discover problem before it gets into beta and stable [07:21] I hope un214 comes back, I think I've found what he needs [07:50] any grub experts in here or is everyone asleep [07:52] am not an expert or asleep [07:53] But I dealt with grub alot, What is it eagles0513875 ? [07:53] Sensiva: for some reason i cant boot into my windows partition [07:53] yofel: and i compared configs and for both of us it is exactly the same [07:54] now [07:54] error msg? [07:54] someone in grub channel pasted this http://pastebin.com/weMw7p0m where he added drive map line [07:54] Sensiva: no error msg when booting it gives me black screen then says GRUB and that is it [07:55] Your windows partition is /dev/...?? [07:56] nvm can you confirm the uuid number of your windows partition? [08:02] eagles0513875, I don't think that has anything to do with that menu entry. If all you are seeing is "GRUB" then grub probably never even got far enough to read the grub.cfg. [08:02] Sensiva: i have 2 drives [08:02] one 500gb one which has windows on it [08:03] and 2tb drive which has nix on a 500gb partition and rest ntfs freespace [08:03] 500gb drive is /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 sda1 being 100mb system partiton [08:03] sdb1 500gb nix partition on 2tb hdd 1.4tb sdb2 ntfs freespace partition and sdb3 which is swap [08:04] Sensiva: how can i confirm the uuid number [08:04] eagles0513875, sudo blkid [08:04] http://pastebin.com/x5yns5jA [08:05] fine, in winblows menu entry the uuid should be 3434817834813DBC not 4870319e70319422 [08:06] I suggest backing up your current grub config file /boot/grub/grub.cfg then generating a new one using sudo update-grub [08:06] Sensiva: yofel though has his set to use sda1 in my case and his boots just fine [08:08] eagles0513875 actually I don't know what is that "System Reserved" for, no matter how, you should direct grub to the partition where your Win7 bootloader is [08:08] doesnt grub over write the ntbootldr [08:08] or at least trick windows into thinking its still using the ntbootldr but in turn it uses grub [08:08] if its sda1 then uuid 4CC87BBBC87BA23E should be used if sda2 then uuid 3434817834813DBC should be used [08:09] grub doesn't overwrite windows bootloaders [08:09] eagles0513875, No, grub chainloads BCD / ntldr [08:09] Sensiva: at first grub didnt have my windows partition listed i ran sudo update-grub to get it to list my windows partition [08:09] ahhh [08:10] fine, then sudo update-grub you go, but update your current file first please [08:10] backup* your current file first please [08:10] Sensiva: you mean update the uuid [08:10] and which grub file the one in /etc/default/ ? [08:10] or in /boot/grub/grub.cfg [08:11] /boot/grub/grub.cfg [08:11] ok.. why would my system boot if i don't have "/dev/mapper/home /home ext3 defaults 0 1" in my fstab, but fail booting, resulting in my monitor going to energy saving mode, if this line is in the fstab-file? [08:12] Sensiva: its backedup [08:12] great, now sudo update-grub [08:12] after finishing don't reboot, make sure your windows entry is listed [08:14] Machtin, Try booting without splash and see if there are any relevant looking error messages. [08:15] Jordan_U: i did, couldn't see any [08:15] which doesn't mean there are none.. the text scrolls pretty fast and then - without any delay the screen turns black and the monitor goes to energy safe. [08:15] Machtin, What happens if you boot with it commented out, uncomment it, then "sudo mount /home" ? [08:16] uhm.. i didn't try it with commenting it out, but i'm now on that system and mounted it manually [08:17] Machtin, Try mounting it with "sudo mount /home" or "sudo mount -a" ( rather than /dev/mapper/home /home ) so that it uses the entry in the fstab. [08:17] what i also find fascinating: the line in /etc/crypttab has no influence.. i'm not prompted for a password or any - i have to "cryptsetup luksopen /dev/bla home" manually. [08:18] Sensiva: it found windows on /dev/sda1 [08:18] Jordan_U: with or without the device being open? [08:18] eagles0513875 now reboot [08:18] Machtin, unmount it first if that's what you mean. [08:19] Sensiva: i have a feeling the same issue :( [08:19] brb [08:19] let's see then :D [08:19] Jordan_U: no, i mean should it also be decrypted? because like i said, when i boot it's not decrypted, because i'm not even prompted for the password [08:20] Machtin, No ( because we are trying to reproduce the problem at boot, where by your experience it will not be decrypted ) [08:21] ok, i'll just try after rebooting :) brb [08:25] Jordan_U: i've got another clue.. :D [08:25] but first: mount behaves like it should.. it states that there is no special device /dev/mapper/home and works after i luksOpened the device [08:26] however, i noticed when i boot (with that line commented out), the monitor goes into energy saving mode, too. [08:26] but is back after only a few seconds and shows kdm. [08:27] Sensiva: still same problem [08:27] eagles0513875 do you even see the grub menu? [08:28] ya i do [08:28] eagles0513875 direct grub to /dev/sda2 and check again [08:28] Sensiva: what file do i need to edit to fix that [08:29] /boot/grub/grub.cfg [08:29] they say that file shouldnt be edited [08:29] on the wiki [08:29] !grub2 | Sensiva [08:29] Sensiva: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [08:29] I understand [08:30] in this case if that cant be edited what should [08:30] it can be edited.. it's just not supposed to be [08:30] Machtin: well the wiki is a lil ambiguous [08:30] Sensiva: so i edit sda1 to sda2 and change the uuid [08:31] exactly [08:31] ok [08:32] eagles0513875 before you do, can you describe what made your windows entry not to boot? [08:33] Sensiva: this only started happening after installing linux [08:33] Did you resize? move? reinstalled? [08:33] no [08:33] windows is on a disk on its own and linux is on a 500gb partition on another 2tb hdd [08:34] and during install do you remember where the installer did install grub? [08:35] hd0 or hd1? [08:35] mbr of hd0 [08:35] ok, now edit grub.cfg [08:35] first sudo chmod -w /boot/grub/grub.cfg then start editing [08:36] Sensiva: dont edit grub.cfg ;) [08:36] !grub2 [08:36] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [08:36] vish I know [08:36] lol vish thats what i told him [08:36] humph [08:36] whats the chmod command do i just did sudo nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg to edit it [08:37] hehe , i caught only half of the conversation :) [08:37] grub.cfg is read only, chmod is to set its permission to read/write [08:37] Sensiva: cant you just use sudo to have rw permissions [08:37] your editor won't save changes if its read only [08:37] Sensiva: even if i use sudo [08:38] nope [08:38] eagles0513875, Editors will still generally complain that it's read only ( requiring ! in vim for instance ) [08:38] Jordan_U: i used sudo nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg [08:38] doesnt sudo give me rw access as root [08:39] eagles0513875: even root doesn't have write permissions for grub.cfg by default [08:39] nope [08:39] morning folks [08:39] strange cuz i went back in there and the changes i made seem to be saved [08:39] eagles0513875: you can edit , the file but it is set as read-only even for root [08:39] eagles0513875, Yes, but the editor is trying to protect you from yourself by not letting you overwrite a file marked as read only [08:40]