[00:16] evening all, I am experiencing a problem with groundcontrol on two machines. [00:16] I would like to know how to debug the issue, but im not too sure how [00:16] basically, I cannot login using my launchpad credentials [00:16] so far, I have tried erasing cache, changing login credentials. [00:16] stevepearce: Talk to doctormo. [00:17] hmmm... bug 11334 has denegrated into an umm... "not very nice issue" containing nasty 4 letter words <-- https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11334/comments/201 [00:17] kermiac_: Bug 11334 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/11334 is private [00:17] I had a feeling that's who I needed to speak to [00:17] Launchpad bug 11334 in ubuntu (and 2 other projects) "MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste (affects: 81) (dups: 22)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [00:17] we file a question on LP answers to get bug comments modified/ deleted, right? === kermiac_ is now known as kermiac [00:18] kermiac: Yep. [00:19] well, I don't think that's that bad [00:19] bdmurray: aren't we supposed to keep things "family friendly"? [00:20] kermiac: yes, there is some value in the rest of the comment and deleeting it because of 1 word seems a bit extreme to me [00:21] yes, I agree... that's why i mentioned modified/ deleted. are LP admins able to simply remove the offending word in the comments? [00:21] I don't believe so, but I'm not certain. [00:22] bug process question: Who should set the "Target to Milestone" value? E.g. for bug 260406 -- is it appropriate for me (as the triager / FFe-requester) to set the Target Milestone to 10.04 because that's what I *want*? Or will the Target Milestone get set by somebody else after "approval"? [00:22] Launchpad bug 260406 in gnuradio (Ubuntu) "Sync gnuradio 3.2.2.dfsg-1 (multiverse) from Debian unstable (main) (affects: 3) (dups: 1)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/260406 [00:22] ok, I'll file a question asking if it can simply be modified or maybe deleted & re-added minus the offending word [00:22] kamalmostafa: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RCBugTargetting [00:23] kermiac: Well, it's too late for that. [00:23] jpds: what do you mean? [00:24] kermiac: Emails have already been sent, mailing lists already have the word archived. [00:24] jpds: ok, I didn't think of that.... I may as well leave it then [00:24] kermiac: And the next commenter quoted him... [00:27] bdmurray: thanks for the pointer -- I think I understand this to mean that there need not be any "Target to Milestone" for this wholly non-release-critical bug. [00:27] jpds: yes, i noticed someone else quoted him so i *was* going to ask LP admins to modify that too.... but no point really because, as you said, it's been archived on ML [00:27] ty for the discussion bdmurray & jpds :) [00:28] kamalmostafa: we could target to lucid if you like though and it'd be a target of opportunity [00:29] kermiac: Also the lists get archived on USENET, which you're never going to be able to delete stuff from. :-/ [00:29] oh, I didn't realise it was also archived on usenet. you learn something new every day... ty jpds :) [00:29] bdmurray: no, actually i wouldn't want to imply in any way that this sync is 'critical' for Lucid (and I bet it will get approved regardless) -- I was more curious about how I was supposed to use that field (or, as it turns out, not use it). === pascalFR is now known as Parti [00:40] There that spreadsheet should improve the quality of my checks by a great multitude [00:45] Sujest Wishlist bug 528781 possibley 100 Papercuts. [00:45] Launchpad bug 528781 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Empathy doesn't give irc option in account setup wizard (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528781 [00:55] Anzenketh: bug 528781 was marked as dupe. Original upstream bug states that this is by design [00:55] Launchpad bug 528781 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Empathy doesn't give irc option in account setup wizard (dup-of: 433714)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528781 [00:55] Launchpad bug 433714 in empathy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "initial empathy account wizard does not offer IRC as an account (affects: 4) (dups: 1)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/433714 [00:55] Anzenketh: but they (upstream) are currently discussing if this behavoiur should be changed [00:56] I am starting to get anoyed with a feature missing in openoffice. I have half the mind to write a patch and submit it. [00:57] Bit scared too becouse I am not the best programer in the world. [00:57] Still novice. [00:57] Thanks for the help on that kermiac [00:57] np Anzenketh :) [01:40] anyone know how i can add/edit stock responses to the firefox-lp-improvements add-on? [01:46] ddecator: should be a link to edit responses when you are using them on a bug report [01:46] hang on, I didn't explain it very well [01:46] at the end of the list of responses there is reload & edit. just click edit [01:47] you need to be on a bug report page to do this afaik [01:48] kermiac, and so there is...i wondered what that link did, haha [01:48] well now you know :) [01:50] this is gonna be a big help...thanks kermiac =) [01:51] np ddecator :) [01:51] i'm doing some cleanup for firefox and i'm using the same things over and over, but they aren't included by default [01:52] yeah, so now you can add it. don't forget you can also change the task,importance,status, etc when you add in a new response [01:52] yah i just noticed that. very nice [01:52] yup, it is :) It saves us a lot of hard work [01:53] I desided to work on linking upstream bugs using QA report http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/launchpad-database/unlinked-bugwatch.html [01:53] well, maybe not *hard* work, but it does make triaging a lot easier :) [01:53] and faster [01:53] If the bug is upstream but is not confirmed upstream or downstream what do we do with the bug triage it as normal? [01:53] Anzenketh, we triage our reports separately from the upstream reports [01:53] and ddecator beat me to it :) [01:54] Ok so the answer is yes [01:54] * kermiac nods [01:54] i try my best ;) [01:54] That looked like something rather easy for me to do. [01:55] When does the tracker run? [01:55] I found a bug marked closed upstream but after I added the tracker it is not marked closed downstream [01:57] I *may* be able to help... bug #? [01:57] Anzenketh, upstream links don't automatically change our statuses, only the status of the link [01:57] Anzenketh: upstream gnome? [01:57] nope this is a kernal upstream [01:57] a few upstream trackers are currently disabled, so you need to add a comment about upstream fix/close and do the needful downstream [01:57] I know gnome Upstream does not due to the ! [01:58] on another node, launchpad takes some timeto update the upstream trackers [01:59] I figured that was the case that is why I asked the question. [01:59] Well sence I know it is closed I will just close it. [02:05] i forgot to save my new replies -_- [02:06] ddecator: lol, gm scripts? [02:06] nigelb, yah, i hit reload before saving them, haha [02:06] * nigelb has done it plenty [02:15] freedesktop trackers are always xorg packages right? [02:16] Nevermind answered my own question [02:16] there we go! [02:16] that's going to save a lot of time [02:18] Trying to figure out how to attach the upstream for bug http://launchpad.net/bugs/521163 [02:18] Launchpad bug 521163 in ttf-wqy-zenhei (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "WenQuanYi Zen Hei is prioritised above Japanese fonts for Japanese language text (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] [02:18] dinner time, bbl [02:26] heyo -- I have a but that's unassigned and is said to expire in two weeks -- is there anything I can do about it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/322592 [02:26] Launchpad bug 322592 in linux (Ubuntu) "Support, but poor support, added for WUSB54Gv2 - wifi problem" [Medium,Incomplete] [02:35] There now it is not [02:36] 8.04 is losing support in april can you test it on a live cd of lucid. [02:36] April 20*11*... [02:37] LTS is 3 year support on the desktop, 5 on server. [02:37] I must have read that wrong [02:37] It is a desktop install [02:37] though [02:38] 8.04 came out in April 2008 (hence the version number). 2008 + 3 = 2011. [02:39] well the problem continues to exist in karmic [02:40] it's actually gotten worse, it seems [02:42] downloading the live alpha 3 :) [02:47] lucid is likely to get more attention due to it is the next LTS [02:47] If it is not in lucid a bug fix may be on it's way. [02:49] Yay for 5 days I have been touching 5 bugs a day. [02:53] I forget, can old PCs boot from cd rws [03:14] Anzenketh: I have added the upstream bugwatch to bug 521163. I believe i have done it correctly, but am not 100% as I don't know much at all about the referenced package [03:14] Launchpad bug 521163 in ttf-wqy-zenhei (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "WenQuanYi Zen Hei is prioritised above Japanese fonts for Japanese language text (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/521163 [03:17] ????? X just restarted on me [03:19] Looks good [03:20] But I only started about 5 days ago [03:24] Do not know what to do with bug 528277 He can not start the live cd at all just gets a no signal. [03:24] Launchpad bug 528277 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "screen goes blank when booting to live environment with some nouveau Graphics Cards (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528277 [03:32] could smone tell me when the next bug week is going to be held? [03:45] It is being held on my birthday [03:45] Not that that helps you much [03:45] March 9th === mr_steve_ is now known as mr_steve [04:11] Anzenketh: i`ll be around to wish you then! :) [04:12] Anzenketh: thnkx for the info! [04:12] what's up? [04:15] Going though all my existing bugs [04:15] That I am watching [04:16] Anzenketh: are you a python developer? what kind of bugs do you work on? just curious... [04:16] Not watching touching. [04:17] Treaging. [04:17] I don't know python yet [04:17] Just C++,c, Perl, PHP, Java. [04:18] And just the basics of those. [04:41] hi, [04:42] hey Damascene [04:42] hey ddecator [04:43] Is page for lucid bugs like the one for qa iso testing tema [04:43] team [04:43] what do you mean by a page for lucid bugs? [04:43] one minute [04:44] like this http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ [04:45] i've never done official iso testing so i'm not sure how that site works. are you asking if there is a similar page for lucid? [04:47] yes [04:47] only lucid bugs [04:48] I might search for lucid but I want the professional way [04:48] you can go to launchpad, go to ubuntu, then bugs, and there should be a link on the right where you can select "lucid" to see all lucid bugs, but there isn't really a site that i know of where there is postings of specific bugs that need testing...other than some bugs have a tag saying they need dev-release testing [04:52] ok, hope some one give another way [04:52] are you looking to test bugs in lucid? [04:54] yes [04:56] ah, in that case you should (theoretically) be able to find bugs with the 'needs-devrelease-testing' tag, but usually this isn't added since we either test it ourselves or have the reporter test their bug on a live cd since they know how to reproduce the bug... [04:58] I think maybe the tag "lucid" is enough [04:59] that can work too, although you'll also find bugs that have already been tested in lucid, so you'd just have to sift through the results [05:11] The problem comes into play is most pepole do not know to add the tag lucid. [05:12] it's not that we don't know, it just really easy to forget [05:12] No I am talking about the reporters [05:12] that's true too [05:13] bug triagers forget to add them too...i should probably go through my subscribed reports and check the tags, haha [05:13] In the perfect world we would not need so many pepole in the bug squad becouse everyone would be able to follow the instructions on the bug reporting page. [05:13] ddecator: May I recommend creating a spreadsheet checklist [05:14] Helped me a lot on DUH I forgot to add that. [05:14] Anzenketh, haha, i hate using spreadsheets so i just need to get in the habit of checking [05:15] If you hate creating them then I can send you mine. [05:15] Anzenketh, thanks, but that's alright, tags are just about the only thing i forget to double-check. if i follow a list, then i don't learn to do it automatically...just a personal thing [05:16] Ahh that makes sence [05:18] my main problem is tags don't seem altogether as important to me as everything else since i just use google to search for bugs, and that searches the descriptions which almost always has the ubuntu version listed [05:22] especially since there is a site with tags we should use, but not many people follow that site, so it doesn't exactly make searching consistent =p [05:35] Tags Increae the liklyhood that they will get adressed [05:35] For example the patch tag will likely be looked at by a developer reviewing code [05:35] lucid for those wanting to work on lucid issues [05:36] Makes things a lot easier to find. [05:36] true, the tags included in the lp-improvement add-on are important === Hellow_ is now known as Hellow [05:47] * Anzenketh needs to keep a eye on why OO is crashing on me. [05:47] is it consistent with a certain action? [05:52] nope [05:52] that is the problem [05:54] * Anzenketh is going to uninstall the ubuntu version and install the non ubuntu version to make sure it is not something ubuntu did. [05:56] 3.2 has been stable for me [05:56] You don't like spreadsheets [05:57] but i'm also a college student who has to write a LOT of papers [05:57] This is in calc [05:57] well you never said that [06:14] ddecator: you a member of 5 a day? [06:14] Anzenketh, yes [06:16] bug 1 is funny [06:16] Launchpad bug 1 in tilix (and 16 other projects) "Microsoft has a majority market share (affects: 218)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [06:16] also very famous amongst the community =) [06:29] OHh I figured out what I can do with my extra laptop [06:29] make it a server? [06:30] Nope lucid install testing. [06:30] I have a server [06:30] It is running 8.04 LTS [06:40] alright, i have a question. if a reporter says that the bug is fixed in a new release, then marks it "fix released" but there is no specific evidence in the changelogs for the fix, should i change it to "invalid" and mark that it's closed because of the fact that the update fixed it? [06:41] I belive the lp addon marks it as fix released [06:41] Let me check [06:41] the "unknown fix" marks it inavlid [06:41] invalid [06:41] Hum. [06:41] Ya [06:42] It makes sence with invalid [06:42] You should have installed your update [06:42] well it was just an old untouched bug [06:42] kermiac, do you think it's appropriate to switch it to "invalid"? [06:43] ddecator: bug #? [06:43] bug 500708 [06:43] Launchpad bug 500708 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Gtk Error Message (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500708 [06:43] might have never been a firefox problem to begin with given the error message [06:44] * kermiac is looking [06:45] seems like possibly a configuration issue to me [06:45] and [06:45] Bugs resolved after update or config change [06:45] Ocassionally bug reporters will indicate that a bug has been fixed after some software update or after changing a configuration value back to its default value. These bug reports should be set to 'Invalid' since we don't know the root cause. When closing the bug report it is a good idea to take an opportunity to let the reporter know how to manage bug statuses. [06:45] so invalid would make sense [06:45] kermiac, thanks, just wanted a second opinion [06:45] np ddecator :) [06:46] and thanks for your opinion too Anzenketh , i just wanted a -control opinion as well =) [06:46] I'm only a new -control member ddecator - still learning too :) [06:46] You are better then me I only joined 5 days ago [06:47] well, you're doing a rocking job so far Anzenketh - thanks for all of your help :) [06:47] kermiac, true, but i still value you're opinion. and, i may be a -control member soon too ;) [06:48] 5 days and 70 bugs later????? [06:49] ddecator: yeah, I saw your application :) [06:49] kermiac, got one +1 so far [06:50] excellent :) [06:51] A +1? [06:52] Anzenketh, it just means that one of the reviewers approves of me being a -control member [06:55] has anyone mention the f-stop bug? [06:55] jazz, can you be more specific? [06:56] where it crshes on opening? [06:56] have you checked lp? [06:56] i have i fixed mine [06:56] kermiac: do you know what bug gravity means? [06:56] did you find a report? [06:57] jazz, ^ [06:57] ddecator, i did http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8841324 comment #10 [06:58] i changed my theme and it sovled my problem...but if i revert back to my theme it still breaks [06:58] jave you looked for an official bug report? [06:58] have* [06:59] Anzenketh: basically it refers to how much of an impact the bug is having [06:59] Ahhh ok [06:59] habg on a sec... I think brian murray wrote something about it on his blog [06:59] So those would be high targets to get triaged. [06:59] ddecator, no i have not. [06:59] Anzenketh: http://www.murraytwins.com/blog/?p=40 [07:00] kermiac: looking [07:01] jazz, it looks like it was reported. let me see if i can find it... [07:01] Anzenketh: here's the report brian (i am pretty sure it's brian) looks after http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bugnumbers/yesterday.html [07:01] ddecator, i didnt think it was a bug so i asked in the channel i was in and had help sussing it out. [07:02] Ya that is what poped the question. [07:02] jazz, well it's not behaving how it should, so it makes it a bug =), https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/f-spot/+bug/520186 [07:02] Launchpad bug 520186 in f-spot (Ubuntu) "opens for a few seconds then closes. (affects: 2)" [Medium,Incomplete] [07:02] i never opened up the program before and when i do it crashed... bad things always happen to me [07:03] Anzenketh: you can see at the bottom of the report what factors make up the total gravity of the bug(s) [07:03] Yep [07:03] I am all for working smarter that is why I am asking [07:03] jazz, go ahead and click the "does this bug affect you?" link at the top of the report =) [07:04] jazz, you can also try to run the commands pedro mentioned at the top since the reporter couldn't seem to get it to work right [07:06] jazz, then add the file produced. but up to you, you don't have to if you're not comfortable with the command line [07:06] ddecator, i dont see where it affect me up top [07:06] jazz, it's right under the title. it should say "This bug affects 2 people. Does this bug affect you?" [07:07] jazz, just click that link and select "Yes" [07:07] just says this bug affect 2 people [07:07] jazz, you might need to be signed into launchpad to do that then [07:08] one sec let me sign in [07:09] ddecator, yeah i got it signing in was the ticket.. ok [07:09] * Anzenketh is excited becouse he has himself a live testing system not a vm [07:09] Anzenketh, that's always nicer [07:10] jazz, thanks! now you can either leave it as is and know that it's reported, or if you want to help then you can try to produce the file pedro asked for. up to you [07:10] I rememberd I had a Old System lying around. [07:12] ddecator, (im new been using since 9.10) i'd like to help becuase it isnt working with a theme i enjoy ubuntu with [07:13] jazz, alright, i can help you out then [07:13] jazz, to start, use the theme that caused it to crash [07:14] ddecator, i still have the paste bin up from earlier [07:14] jazz, what does it contain? [07:14] http://paste.ubuntu.com/384853/ [07:16] looks the same as the description, so you don't need to add that [07:16] ddecator, i googled line 19 and it lead me to the forum where i read switching themes was a work around (i guess) [07:16] jazz, good deal, workarounds are always nice, but getting the program to work without workarounds is even nicer ;) [07:17] ddecator, so we got a third bug report, and a crash report. whats next? [07:17] jazz, you ran the commands from the comment? [07:18] nope.... [07:18] what third bug report and crash report are you talking about then? [07:18] wich comment? [07:19] oh i was the 3rd since there was two others affected... [07:19] jazz, oh alright. comment #1 has a several commands that will produce a report. you should need to run each one separately. want me to walk you through it? [07:20] yes please ifn you dont mind. [07:20] not at all. before you begin, can you please let me know what version of ubuntu you are using and can you confirm that you are using the latest version of f-spot? [07:20] before we begin* [07:21] ok 9.10 and a sec on f-spot [07:22] f-spot is 0.6.15 from the help>about on the progra, [07:23] perfect! alright, let me just run the commands myself a second so i know what they will do... [07:24] ok [07:27] * Anzenketh is thinking of orgenizing a bug hug day [07:27] jazz, sorry, i'm having some trouble with it so it's taking me a sec to figure out... [07:28] Anzenketh: for what app? [07:28] Haven't decided yet [07:28] ddecator, no worries. [07:28] I need to see what one needs the most help in my opinion [07:28] ok, let me know if you decide... If it's something I know about I'll help out :) [07:29] ddecator, in the mean time bugs can be defined by something not working as intended? [07:29] Anzenketh: you seen the wiki info about hug days? [07:29] That is what braught up the comment [07:29] ok :) [07:29] jazz, correct [07:29] Last bug hug day was last month [07:30] yeah, that was the kernel one, i think [07:30] suspend/resume issues [07:30] * kermiac missed it due to work commitments :( [07:32] ddecator, is trhere a channel to launchpad guys? [07:33] jazz, do you mean a channel for the launchpad admins? [07:33] how can i contact them about passwords username and profiles? [07:33] for your launchpad account? [07:33] yes, [07:33] kermiac, do you have any gdb experience? [07:34] ddecator: not really, sorry mate [07:34] * Anzenketh is trying to remember what gdb is. [07:34] Ahh that [07:34] kermiac, np, i just can't get gdb to recognize f-spot as an executable file, even if i run it with sudo [07:35] You really do go all out don't you ddecator [07:35] strange [07:35] jazz, what are you wondering about your lp account? [07:35] Anzenketh, it was requested in the report, haha [07:35] when i first got redirected to the launchpad site i wasnt sure of LP. and gave my spamcatcher email. (you know the one where you give ppl but you dont check it but once every 2 months) [07:35] Ahh [07:35] ddecator: want me to fire up my karmic vm & have a look? [07:36] kermiac, what are you on right now? [07:36] jazz, so you just want to change your email? [07:36] jaunty on this particular box, but I've got karmic & lucid boxes... plus vm's [07:37] the pass word on the account im on now and the other profile can be deleted pretty much [07:37] kermiac, well lets give a shot in jaunty...try 'gdb f-spot' and tell me if it comes back saying it doesn't recognize the format [07:37] jazz, what do you mean that the password can be deleted? [07:38] i got 2 "profile" with lp. i only need the one, [07:38] not recognised on jaunty either.... I'll look into it a bit [07:39] kermiac, thanks, i appreciate it. i checked and the file is executable and running f-spot from the terminal works fine. idk much about how gdb works though [07:39] jazz, so you just want to deactivate one of the accounts? [07:40] i guess after a while they will just delete it for inactivity then, ... [07:40] dda yep,.. [07:41] jazz, if you sign into the account you want to deactivate, then click the name in the top right corner (so it brings it to the profile page), you can click "change details" in the top right, then at the bottom is an option to deactivate the account [07:41] it aint a big deal i was wondering if they had admins or the ling for deactivating [07:42] jazz, yes there are admins, but we usually only bother them for things like people needing to be banned due to purposefully messing up reports or harassing users [07:42] ddecator: found it on the wiki [07:42] kermiac: the majority of work on cordnating a bug day comes before the day right? [07:42] To obtain a backtrace from a Mono application such as Beagle or F-Spot, use Mono's --debug option, e.g. [07:42] mono --debug /usr/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe [07:42] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace [07:42] kermiac, perfect! thanks [07:42] i was looking at that page but didn't notice that section [07:42] np ddecator - it worked here [07:44] jazz, you ready to try and get that report? [07:44] guys want to know something funny about this bug repot? i never used f-stop before or know what it does. 2 nights ago i think i tried to open it and it wouldnt lol [07:44] ddecator, lets do it [07:44] jazz, alright, do you have the theme set that caused it to crash? [07:45] not applied atm, but its installed when i right click [07:45] jazz, apply it. we need to make f-spot crash ;) [07:45] ok done [07:46] alright, try to open f-spot to make sure it will still crash [07:46] :0 yep [07:46] good! so f-spot is closed now, yes? (since it crashed) [07:46] yep [07:47] alright, then open a terminal and run 'mono --debug /usr/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe' (without the quotes) [07:47] f-spot should open then, with any luck, crash like before [07:47] Anzenketh: yes, that's right. I believe that you need to do a fair amount of work before the actual bug day - it should all be laid out in the wiki. [07:47] Anzenketh: I haven't organised a bug day [07:48] is there a space between --debug and /usr it wrapped on xchat [07:48] Ya I know I just figured you were around for one once. [07:48] jazz, yes [07:49] jazz, you can also copy-paste if you want [07:49] ddecator, i was never abled to copy-paste in x chat how do i do that? also program open and crash as you said [07:50] Anzenketh: This is a good outline of what kind of things need to be organised before the bug day - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/BugDays [07:50] jazz, i never noticed you couldn't do that...using ctrl+c may work for copying but i'm not sure [07:50] yah ctrl+c works [07:51] anyway, is there a bunch of output in the terminal? [07:51] ddecator, yes there is text in terminal [07:52] ctrl c did work thanks learn new things! [07:52] jazz, alright, keep the terminal open for now until i see what the output is. can you copy the output into a paste bin like before? [07:52] (keyboard shortcuts are always fun to learn =)) [07:53] yes one momemnt. [07:53] ty [07:53] Anzenketh, organizing a bug day is something that is good to do with a mentor =) [07:53] http://paste.ubuntu.com/384924/ [07:53] ddecator, ^ [07:54] same output as before...hm [07:54] ddecator: Ya would love to no mentor yet. [07:54] Anzenketh, usually takes a while. you applied for one though, yes? [07:54] Ya [07:54] jazz, let me look into it a sec [07:54] also if you dont mind and have the time can you explain whats being done so as i can learn? [07:55] ddecator, take your time [07:55] jazz, we're trying to get a report that tells us what exactly is causing the crash so we can know how to fix it [07:56] ddecator, :0 yeh the over all point. but what was the command line you had me type. [07:57] aha! [07:57] xD [07:57] jazz, i didn't have you type the right thing before, but i got it figured out [07:58] sweet, lets give the right one a go! [07:58] jazz, alright, open the terminal, then type (or copy paste ;)) 'gdb /usr/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe' [07:58] kermiac, this is something good to know for the future [07:59] ddecator, a new termina;? [07:59] jazz, preferably, so there isn't the old output cluttering everything [07:59] jazz, you can close the old terminal [07:59] done [08:00] alright, in the same terminal, run 'break gdk_x_error' [08:00] it will ask you a question. put 'y' for yes and hit enter [08:01] i got a (gdb) and my cursor [08:01] yes, that's right. did you type the second command yet? [08:01] nope, was waiting incase it wasnt finsihed [08:02] jazz, go ahead, it's a command that we're giving to gdb [08:02] ok breakpoint 1 (gdk_x_error) pending [08:03] good, now enter 'run --sync' [08:03] ddecator, thats another meaning as to explain what were doing --- ok [08:04] back to the (gdb) [08:04] jazz, we're using gdb, a program, to watch f-spot open and crash, so then it will tell us what caused it [08:05] ok, with the terminal still open, launch f-spot from your applications menu and have it crash [08:05] Ugh [08:05] my lucid i386 iso is broken. [08:05] ran and crashed [08:05]