[00:18] <ccheney> hmm i'm seeing the plymouth/X black screen bug consistently on my desktop
[00:18] <ccheney> i have a radeon 4350
[00:31] <dyek> Hi! Is there anybody using Ubuntu as Xen PV Guest OS for development uses? Is Xen (PV Guest) a general productivity tool? Or not?
[01:07] <xorl> is anyone going to conquer the upstart scripts for apache2 on lucid? didn't see anything in the bug tracker about it, possible on the devel mailing list?
[02:00] <ScottK> xorl: #ubuntu-server is probably a better place for that question.
[02:06] <xorl> ScottK: ah, ok, just checking, do you know how the upstart thing works? I've written an upstart job corresponding with a conf file in /etc/init/ yet, it says unknown job still
[02:06] <xorl> upstart guys are *extremely* quiet
[02:11] <ScottK> No.  Sorry
[02:23] <slangasek> xorl: are you trying to run it in a chroot?
[02:33] <xorl> slangasek: no, i created my conf, created the symlink to /lib/init/upstart-jobs and nothing
[02:34] <xorl> Is that not te proper way to do it? (or upstate-job) whichever that binary was
[02:34] <xorl> I haven't found any good docs on it
[02:35] <slangasek> xorl: the symlink to /lib/init/upstart-job isn't relevant.  the other likely possibility is if you have the job syntax wrong, upstart will ignore it
[02:35] <xorl> ah
[02:36] <slangasek> xorl: try turning on debugging with 'sudo initctl log-priority info', touch your job file (to get upstart to rescan), and check /var/log/syslog
[02:41] <xorl> slangasek: ah! Thanks for the pointers, great help
[03:01] <ion> xorl: It being the middle of the night may have something to do with “upstart guys being quiet”.
[04:21] <kamalmostafa> james_w:  hi james --  bzr branch lp:ubuntu/gpredict   explodes, yielding an error message which includes your email address.   i'm sure you're thrilled!
[04:42] <xorl> slangasek: thanks for the help earlier, got apache working with upstart now
[04:43] <slangasek> xorl: so it was a job syntax issue?
[04:43] <xorl> slangasek: yes
[04:43] <xorl> well, stanza
[04:43] <xorl> forgot to put an env in front of a variable
[04:44] <slangasek> ah :)
[04:44] <xorl> some more working and now I got apache working
[04:44] <xorl> re-wrote the apache2 init script and made it work with upstart
[05:08] <JrodDCx> does anyone have an idea what the light theme looks like ?
[05:31] <t3rm1n4l> hi
[07:38] <shawnboy> is this suitable place to ask general question regarding C compared to C++?
[10:01] <Kano> hi, who is responsible for the lucid installer
[10:03] <arand> I know cjwatson does a lot of installer work, there is #ubuntu-installer as well..
[10:59] <sgnb> can some archive admin take care of #526067 and #527633 quickly, please? ... the OCaml transition is stalled because of them...
[11:21] <persia> sgnb: Archive Admin lag time tends to be considerably longer over weekends, unfortunately.  Someone might see the backscroll, but if not, poke one of the rota volunteers on Monday.
[12:03] <pecisk> hi people, during last days LiveCD testing I encountered CD reading errors on two independent computers. Is there any known bug about this? Both computers have Nvidia video card, and on second one I sucesfully logged in Xorg nouveau demo session
[13:49] <cjwatson> sgnb: I've done the round 3 bug.  Do I need to wait a bit for those to build before doing round 4?
[14:11] <sgnb> cjwatson: non... please proceed... thanks
[14:56] <ubuntu> hi there guys. just a thing that crossed my mind: with the new gwibber api, shouldn't we be able to tweet/dent/share what we're currently listening to?
[14:58] <danyR> directly from rhythmbox?
[15:27] <cjwatson> sgnb: doing now, except for mldonkey which still appears to require an FFe ack
[15:27] <cjwatson> at least thus indicates the current bug trail
[15:28] <sgnb> cjwatson: ok, thanks
[16:07] <ogra_cmpc> hmm, whats the equivalent to gnome-mount in lucid ?
[16:08]  * ogra_cmpc needs to trigger a manual device mount thats apparently not recognized by udisks
[16:09] <ogra_cmpc> pitti, did you recently try to attach your ebook reader to lucid ?
[17:07] <bluefoxicy> Why does my sound card make a pop just before something makes sudden sound?
[17:09] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: it's powering up. Are you using jaunty, karmic, or lucid?
[17:09] <bluefoxicy> current release.
[17:09] <bluefoxicy> /etc/debian_version says squeeze/sid
[17:10] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: what does 'lsb_release -r' return?
[17:10] <bluefoxicy> 9.10
[17:10] <bluefoxicy> okay, /etc/lsb-release says karmic
[17:11] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: if it annoys you, then edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and remove "power_down=10" from the "options snd-hda-intel..." line, then reboot.
[17:11] <bluefoxicy> crimsun: the prior release emitted crackling noises through the speakers when the hard drive had activity
[17:11] <bluefoxicy> yes I realize that's a really weird sounding problem.
[17:11] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: that isn't related to this bug, (un)fortunately.
[17:12] <crimsun> we've already fixed the powerdown/up pop, but half of the fixes are only in 2.6.33 (presumably the other half will land in 2.6.34 shortly).
[17:13] <bluefoxicy> there's political discussions about how much better sound is in OSS4 instead of ALSA
[17:13] <crimsun> that doesn't really mean anything until OSS v4.1+ lands in mainline.
[17:13] <bluefoxicy> and I'm sitting here thinking, oh hell, I need to drop an Audigy into my computer if I really care.  Drivers won't fix my cheap on-board junk XD
[17:14] <bluefoxicy> (yes, it makes a difference I can hear very clearly; the audigy's frequency response is better than my on-board, which doesn't supply continuous power when there's more low frequencies and thus has emphasis on mids and highs)
[17:14] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  is the powerdown/powerup pop driver agnostic?
[17:15] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: it's currently only relevant for the hda-intel driver and any of its associated codecs.
[17:15] <bluefoxicy> nods.
[17:17] <bluefoxicy> crimsun:  does the X-Fi line work btw?
[17:17] <bluefoxicy> I don't remember when it came out but there's probably drivers now.
[18:29] <t3rm1n4l> hi
[18:29] <t3rm1n4l> what dhcp mechanism does ubuntu network manager use
[18:29] <t3rm1n4l> very fast ip grabber
[18:30] <t3rm1n4l> udhcpc is very slow
[18:30] <t3rm1n4l> how is that achieved ?
[18:39] <jdong> t3rm1n4l: it uses standard dhclient3.
[18:40] <hyperair> newer network-managers use dhclient3 wrongly =\
[18:40] <hyperair> apparently they pass a -4 parameter which dhclient hates
[18:40] <hyperair> and never gets an ip
[18:40] <jdong> how new?
[18:41] <hyperair> like PPA new.
[18:41] <hyperair>      0.8-0ubuntu4~nmt4~karmic 0
[18:41] <hyperair> judging by the version, it would seem it's a released version of network-manager
[18:42] <jdong> ah.
[18:42] <hyperair> jdong: are you on lucid?
[18:42] <jdong> I have a VM on lucid
[18:42] <hyperair> ah
[18:42] <jdong> primary is not.
[18:42] <hyperair> i see
[18:42] <hyperair> nevermind, i'll just untar my pbuilder then
[18:42] <hyperair> i was wondering if lucid's dhclient supports -4
[18:43] <hyperair> hmm it doesn't
[18:43] <hyperair> maybe it was another flag..
[19:01] <Quintasan> Hi, any admin archive around? About bug #526002. I know that libjpeg7-dev was removed by latest upload but shouldn't libjpeg8-dev be available? kffmpegthumbnailer builds fine with libjpeg62-dev but I though I would ask before doing second upload
[19:15] <t3rm1n4l> howto configure a wireless network manually
[19:16] <t3rm1n4l> without using dhclient
[19:16] <t3rm1n4l> i tried iwconfig essid "essid"
[19:16] <t3rm1n4l> ifconfig wlan0 ip
[19:16] <t3rm1n4l> but doesnt work
[19:20] <apachelogger> Quintasan: build depend on libjpeg-dev
[19:20] <apachelogger> Quintasan: seems to be what cups does anyway
[19:20] <Quintasan> apachelogger: well, anyways I must win the fight with pbuilder first :P
[19:21] <apachelogger> Quintasan: I do not think your pbuilder does funny things
[19:53] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: X-Fi is a marketing term. Devices carrying that moniker can be enabled by one of three drivers: ca0106, ctxfi, hda-intel. IOW, "it depends."
[19:53] <bluefoxicy> crimsun: ah so it's not like the Emu10k1 chipset at the heart of every single audigy
[19:55] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: not every single Audigy was driven by emu10k1. Some were driven by ca0106. (Same goes for the Live line.)
[22:31] <sarah93> wow you should check this http://bit.ly/bFi9I4
[22:31] <sarah93> wow you should check this http://bit.ly/bFi9I4
[22:31] <jpds> !ops | sarah93
[22:47] <sherr> sarah93: ^^^ SPAM! ABUSE to multiple channels ...
[22:49] <bsmith093> a quick question regarding karmic to lucid upgrade has anyone fisured out the sound problems yet
[22:51] <arand> bsmith093: might be more relevant in #ubuntu+1 (and a bit more active)
[22:51] <bsmith093> ok thanks
[23:43] <andreasn_> hyperair, ping
[23:44] <hyperair> andreasn_: pong
[23:48] <andreasn_> hyperair, you're the banshee ppa dev, right?
[23:49] <andreasn_> just a bit curious about the 1.5.4-really-1.5.3 thing
[23:50] <andreasn_> I was looking for the data reporting checkbox but couldn't find it and wondering if that's the cause