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m4vthe floodbots are being floody in #kubuntu, they seem to be in a deop-op loop...02:49
bazhangm4v, yep, reported it in -ops as well02:52
vishhi  , I'm a bit confused about the ubuntu cloak ,[just became a member recently]     I'v been already using freenoode's "unaffiliated" cloak  , but for that i'v been using "macvre" as my master nickname , can i use a new master nick for the ubuntu cloak?04:38
rwwvish: I believe your master nickname is set with /msg nickserv set accountname nickgoeshere04:45
rww(and that if you set that and then get a cloak set, it'll cloak to the new master nickname)04:46
Flannelvish: Are you asking if you can move macvre/vish over so your cloak says ubuntu/member/vish instead of u/m/macvre?04:46
vishFlannel: yup04:47
rwwFlannel: It's currently cloaked to unaffiliated/macvre, but apart from that, yeah.04:47
Flannelvish: I'm sure you can.  rww seems to have the method of doing so as well.04:47
vishk04:48
vishrww:  so the "accountname" is the email-id? or the "macvre" part ?   , so i'd have to do "... set macvre vish"?04:50
rwwvish: /msg nickserv set accountname vish04:50
vishah , righto04:50
vishit mentions it has changed my nick , let me re-login and check :)04:52
vishhmm , seems to be still  @unaffiliated/macvre   or does it take time to change?04:56
vishi had earlier got this confirmation  "-NickServ- Your account name is now set to vish."04:57
rwwvish: It needs to be changed by a staffer. If you request an ubuntu/member/vish cloak, it'd change then ;P04:58
vishhehe ;)04:58
vishhi .. my lp profile is https://launchpad.net/~vish.../   , could i get a ubuntu cloak? [ubuntu/member/vish]  ?05:00
rwwPici, topyli, jussi01 ^^^05:00
rwwoh hey, they're all idle. this might take a while...05:01
rwwoh hey, wait a sec05:02
rwwvish: Your Launchpad page doesn't show you as being an Ubuntu Member.05:02
rwwoh, yes it does05:02
rwwthose dots are part of the URL o.O05:02
vish;)  someone else used up the vish id :p05:05
topyliniko, nhandler_, Pricey, could we get an ubuntu/member cloak setup for vish please?09:12
topyliand good morning!09:12
vish :)09:12
topyliyay!09:16
VorTechSdone ;)09:17
vish\o/09:18
vishthanks.. i'll restart xchat :)09:18
rwwvish: gratz :)09:18
rwwvish: you don't need to, it already applied :)09:18
vishoh it has..  :)09:19
topylithanks VorTechS09:19
vishthanks all :)09:20
VorTechSyou're welcome :)09:30
vishdo i have to add myself to the Ubuntu cloaked members team?09:31
Myrttino09:31
vishah , guessed so , there is no "join" button there :D09:33
rwwtopyli's just a slow poke :)09:33
* topyli shakes his cain at rww09:34
topylior cane if you prefer!09:35
rwwtopyli: you won't be abel to hit me!09:35
topylioh so punny so early! /me gets moar coffee09:35
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gordpuns are not allowed until 11am :(10:51
lechelol11:12
lecheits 12 here :D11:12
jpdsrww: Erm, what's wrong with gb.archive?12:34
rwwjpds: No idea, I didn't ask.12:35
erUSUL!search unetbootin14:44
ubottuFound: unetbootin, ubotu unetbootin*14:44
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guntbertwhats the matter in #ubuntu today? full moon?19:44
Tm_Tguntbert: typically, yes19:58
IdleOnelol19:59
IdleOnemoon is always full19:59
Tm_Tit's always full in #u yes19:59
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guntbertjust venting - the amount of people ranting/shouting without even listening gets to me - thx for your sympathy :)20:00
IdleOneguntbert: when it starts to get to much, step back for a couple of hours, watch a movie or something20:02
IdleOneguntbert: I find -offtopic a good place to go and relax20:03
IdleOnealso enjoy chatting in -women20:03
IdleOnelots of awesome people in -women20:03
guntbertIdleOne: :)20:07
erUSULIdleOne: that's the not logged one?20:08
IdleOne#ubuntu-women20:08
IdleOneyes20:08
erUSULok20:08
IdleOne#ubuntu-women-project is for team business and meetings...20:08
IdleOneCoC still apllies of course :)20:08
IdleOneapplies*20:08
Tm_Tand the overall "follow the purpose of the channel"20:09
IdleOne-women is more of a social channel as I understand it now but Ubuntu discussion and tech talk still happens20:10
Tm_TIdleOne: yes, that's these days, radical change in past year or so20:11
m4vI'm surprised by the amount of spanish people that gets #ubuntu, we could probably double the people in #ubuntu-es if they just went there directly20:11
IdleOnem4v: the irc clients in ubuntu default to #ubuntu20:12
m4vi know, maybe is time to make the default channel locale aware?20:12
IdleOnethere should be a way of getting the clients to default to #ubuntu-es @ install of spanish language20:12
IdleOnem4v agreed20:12
erUSULsadly in guadalinex they default to #ubuntu too ;)20:12
m4verUSUL: but those clients are banned in #u right? so it isn't just them20:13
erUSULm4v: well the ban do not catches all clients only the ones that have not been very well configured...20:14
erUSULm4v: it matches real name iirc20:14
m4vwhich should be good enough, at least for the kids you complain about :P20:14
erUSULm4v: still as you said many pass the "filter" and disrupt #ubuntu20:15
erUSULXD20:15
guntberterUSUL: what is guadalinex?20:16
m4vwell, maybe it would be worth suggesting the idea of "make default channel locale aware" in the #ubuntu too noisy bug20:16
Tm_Tguntbert: spanish ubuntu-derivative20:16
erUSULubuntu derivative built by a regiaonal governement here in spain20:17
erUSULlike Linex20:17
guntbertthx20:17
erUSULlately this same goverment gave laptops to school kids with guadalinex installed20:17
erUSULso we have a lot of spanish kids entering #ubuntu (im sure you noticed)20:18
erUSULolaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!20:18
IdleOneoye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!20:18
IdleOne:P20:18
erUSUL^.`20:18
IdleOnetienes que entrar en el canal en español. Escribe " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y dale a enter.20:19
IdleOnehehe20:19
IdleOneerUSUL: the issue is not that they come to #ubuntu but that some of them ignore the !es factoid when given to them20:20
erUSULsad part is that few got that and the ones who do just enter the channel see that it has nothing to do with flirting and leave XXDD20:20
m4vIdleOne: that's what I noted, they don't come to u-es20:21
erUSULyep even after i edited es to include the  Escribe " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y dale a enter.20:21
IdleOneWell perhaps there needs to be a Window popup explaining what IRC is and what freenode is about on first start of the app20:22
erUSULjust to make usre is foolproof20:22
m4verUSUL: is probably the space in front of /20:22
IdleOnewith a click this box if you understand20:22
erUSULIdleOne: teacher or someone should explain that to them. it is not right to have a 12 year old asking your age via private20:22
IdleOneerUSUL: agreed, but does the teacher even know what irc is?20:23
erUSULtouchè20:23
IdleOnethere is so many factors/obstacles20:23
IdleOnetouché20:23
IdleOne:)20:23
m4vI'm afraid there's still the general idea that internet is a safe an merry place20:24
m4vs/an/and/20:24
* erUSUL 's french is rusty ( i.e inexistent)20:24
IdleOneI think it is US who needs to adapt and be more patient, explain to them what ubuntu is and why we are here20:24
IdleOneWe cannot expect new users to just know what is proper behavior20:24
erUSULIdleOne: at least freenode should be pretty safe network (as irc networks go ) given the audience but still20:25
IdleOneerUSUL: yes but predators are every where. Anytime you get a large group of people in one place the "bad" people will find a away to exploit20:25
* erUSUL nods20:26
IdleOneerUSUL: the responsibility is ours to teach and be good examples.20:26
* erUSUL doesn't want to be anybody's example ;P20:28
IdleOnehaha20:28
IdleOneto late my friend, you already are :)20:28
IdleOneand a good one20:28
* erUSUL blushes20:30
erUSULtyvm; but it is not deserved ;)20:31
IdleOneWhy would you say that?20:31
IdleOneif you are anything in real life like what I have seen in irc. you are a good person.20:32
erUSULfake humble then ;P20:33
IdleOnehaha20:33
m4verUSUL speaks ill of you all in es-ops!20:34
m4vI saw it I saw it!20:34
IdleOneI know, I have logs20:34
* erUSUL treason!! treason!!20:34
IdleOne:P20:34
Tm_The is spartacus!20:34
* Tm_T hides20:34
m4vhaha20:34
arandShould there not be a less "HELP!!!" way of calling the ops? Current factoid feels a bit over the top..22:31
persiaarand: It's intended that way.  In most cases 1) there are ops watching and 2) there are ways to resolve the issue without falling back to technical solutions22:34
jussi01arand: simply droping into -ops and saying something is also acceptable22:35
arandOkay, I've had a telling-off for that..22:36
jussi01arand: hrm?22:36
arandIt's just that the factoid is kind of disruptive for the channel, and if it's an attention-troll...22:37
jussi01arand: you are allowed to drop by the -ops channel. dont over use it, but we are there to help.22:38
arandAt some point someone in -ops said "that's what the !ops are for" when I pointed out a some issue in #ubu, iirc22:38
jussi01arand: yes, if its an emergenc, then use !ops, but if not, just a smaller issue, feel free to drop by22:39
arandjussi01: Ok, will do, cheers.22:39
jussi01the difference being, !ops will get everyone running, where as a word in -ops will get someone to take a look.22:39

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