[02:49] <m4v> the floodbots are being floody in #kubuntu, they seem to be in a deop-op loop...
[02:52] <bazhang> m4v, yep, reported it in -ops as well
[04:38] <vish> hi  , I'm a bit confused about the ubuntu cloak ,[just became a member recently]     I'v been already using freenoode's "unaffiliated" cloak  , but for that i'v been using "macvre" as my master nickname , can i use a new master nick for the ubuntu cloak?
[04:45] <rww> vish: I believe your master nickname is set with /msg nickserv set accountname nickgoeshere
[04:46] <rww> (and that if you set that and then get a cloak set, it'll cloak to the new master nickname)
[04:46] <Flannel> vish: Are you asking if you can move macvre/vish over so your cloak says ubuntu/member/vish instead of u/m/macvre?
[04:47] <vish> Flannel: yup
[04:47] <rww> Flannel: It's currently cloaked to unaffiliated/macvre, but apart from that, yeah.
[04:47] <Flannel> vish: I'm sure you can.  rww seems to have the method of doing so as well.
[04:48] <vish> k
[04:50] <vish> rww:  so the "accountname" is the email-id? or the "macvre" part ?   , so i'd have to do "... set macvre vish"?
[04:50] <rww> vish: /msg nickserv set accountname vish
[04:50] <vish> ah , righto
[04:52] <vish> it mentions it has changed my nick , let me re-login and check :)
[04:56] <vish> hmm , seems to be still  @unaffiliated/macvre   or does it take time to change?
[04:57] <vish> i had earlier got this confirmation  "-NickServ- Your account name is now set to vish."
[04:58] <rww> vish: It needs to be changed by a staffer. If you request an ubuntu/member/vish cloak, it'd change then ;P
[04:58] <vish> hehe ;)
[05:00] <vish> hi .. my lp profile is https://launchpad.net/~vish.../   , could i get a ubuntu cloak? [ubuntu/member/vish]  ?
[05:00] <rww> Pici, topyli, jussi01 ^^^
[05:01] <rww> oh hey, they're all idle. this might take a while...
[05:02] <rww> oh hey, wait a sec
[05:02] <rww> vish: Your Launchpad page doesn't show you as being an Ubuntu Member.
[05:02] <rww> oh, yes it does
[05:02] <rww> those dots are part of the URL o.O
[05:05] <vish> ;)  someone else used up the vish id :p
[09:12] <topyli> niko, nhandler_, Pricey, could we get an ubuntu/member cloak setup for vish please?
[09:12] <topyli> and good morning!
[09:12] <vish>  :)
[09:16] <topyli> yay!
[09:17] <VorTechS> done ;)
[09:18] <vish> \o/
[09:18] <vish> thanks.. i'll restart xchat :)
[09:18] <rww> vish: gratz :)
[09:18] <rww> vish: you don't need to, it already applied :)
[09:19] <vish> oh it has..  :)
[09:19] <topyli> thanks VorTechS
[09:20] <vish> thanks all :)
[09:30] <VorTechS> you're welcome :)
[09:31] <vish> do i have to add myself to the Ubuntu cloaked members team?
[09:31] <Myrtti> no
[09:33] <vish> ah , guessed so , there is no "join" button there :D
[09:33] <rww> topyli's just a slow poke :)
[09:34]  * topyli shakes his cain at rww
[09:35] <topyli> or cane if you prefer!
[09:35] <rww> topyli: you won't be abel to hit me!
[09:35] <topyli> oh so punny so early! /me gets moar coffee
[10:51] <gord> puns are not allowed until 11am :(
[11:12] <leche> lol
[11:12] <leche> its 12 here :D
[12:34] <jpds> rww: Erm, what's wrong with gb.archive?
[12:35] <rww> jpds: No idea, I didn't ask.
[14:44] <erUSUL> !search unetbootin
[19:44] <guntbert> whats the matter in #ubuntu today? full moon?
[19:58] <Tm_T> guntbert: typically, yes
[19:59] <IdleOne> lol
[19:59] <IdleOne> moon is always full
[19:59] <Tm_T> it's always full in #u yes
[20:00] <guntbert> just venting - the amount of people ranting/shouting without even listening gets to me - thx for your sympathy :)
[20:02] <IdleOne> guntbert: when it starts to get to much, step back for a couple of hours, watch a movie or something
[20:03] <IdleOne> guntbert: I find -offtopic a good place to go and relax
[20:03] <IdleOne> also enjoy chatting in -women
[20:03] <IdleOne> lots of awesome people in -women
[20:07] <guntbert> IdleOne: :)
[20:08] <erUSUL> IdleOne: that's the not logged one?
[20:08] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-women
[20:08] <IdleOne> yes
[20:08] <erUSUL> ok
[20:08] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-women-project is for team business and meetings...
[20:08] <IdleOne> CoC still apllies of course :)
[20:08] <IdleOne> applies*
[20:09] <Tm_T> and the overall "follow the purpose of the channel"
[20:10] <IdleOne> -women is more of a social channel as I understand it now but Ubuntu discussion and tech talk still happens
[20:11] <Tm_T> IdleOne: yes, that's these days, radical change in past year or so
[20:11] <m4v> I'm surprised by the amount of spanish people that gets #ubuntu, we could probably double the people in #ubuntu-es if they just went there directly
[20:12] <IdleOne> m4v: the irc clients in ubuntu default to #ubuntu
[20:12] <m4v> i know, maybe is time to make the default channel locale aware?
[20:12] <IdleOne> there should be a way of getting the clients to default to #ubuntu-es @ install of spanish language
[20:12] <IdleOne> m4v agreed
[20:12] <erUSUL> sadly in guadalinex they default to #ubuntu too ;)
[20:13] <m4v> erUSUL: but those clients are banned in #u right? so it isn't just them
[20:14] <erUSUL> m4v: well the ban do not catches all clients only the ones that have not been very well configured...
[20:14] <erUSUL> m4v: it matches real name iirc
[20:14] <m4v> which should be good enough, at least for the kids you complain about :P
[20:15] <erUSUL> m4v: still as you said many pass the "filter" and disrupt #ubuntu
[20:15] <erUSUL> XD
[20:16] <guntbert> erUSUL: what is guadalinex?
[20:16] <m4v> well, maybe it would be worth suggesting the idea of "make default channel locale aware" in the #ubuntu too noisy bug
[20:16] <Tm_T> guntbert: spanish ubuntu-derivative
[20:17] <erUSUL> ubuntu derivative built by a regiaonal governement here in spain
[20:17] <erUSUL> like Linex
[20:17] <guntbert> thx
[20:17] <erUSUL> lately this same goverment gave laptops to school kids with guadalinex installed
[20:18] <erUSUL> so we have a lot of spanish kids entering #ubuntu (im sure you noticed)
[20:18] <erUSUL> olaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:18] <IdleOne> oye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:18] <IdleOne> :P
[20:18] <erUSUL> ^.`
[20:19] <IdleOne> tienes que entrar en el canal en español. Escribe " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[20:19] <IdleOne> hehe
[20:20] <IdleOne> erUSUL: the issue is not that they come to #ubuntu but that some of them ignore the !es factoid when given to them
[20:20] <erUSUL> sad part is that few got that and the ones who do just enter the channel see that it has nothing to do with flirting and leave XXDD
[20:21] <m4v> IdleOne: that's what I noted, they don't come to u-es
[20:21] <erUSUL> yep even after i edited es to include the  Escribe " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[20:22] <IdleOne> Well perhaps there needs to be a Window popup explaining what IRC is and what freenode is about on first start of the app
[20:22] <erUSUL> just to make usre is foolproof
[20:22] <m4v> erUSUL: is probably the space in front of /
[20:22] <IdleOne> with a click this box if you understand
[20:22] <erUSUL> IdleOne: teacher or someone should explain that to them. it is not right to have a 12 year old asking your age via private
[20:23] <IdleOne> erUSUL: agreed, but does the teacher even know what irc is?
[20:23] <erUSUL> touchè
[20:23] <IdleOne> there is so many factors/obstacles
[20:23] <IdleOne> touché
[20:23] <IdleOne> :)
[20:24] <m4v> I'm afraid there's still the general idea that internet is a safe an merry place
[20:24] <m4v> s/an/and/
[20:24]  * erUSUL 's french is rusty ( i.e inexistent)
[20:24] <IdleOne> I think it is US who needs to adapt and be more patient, explain to them what ubuntu is and why we are here
[20:24] <IdleOne> We cannot expect new users to just know what is proper behavior
[20:25] <erUSUL> IdleOne: at least freenode should be pretty safe network (as irc networks go ) given the audience but still
[20:25] <IdleOne> erUSUL: yes but predators are every where. Anytime you get a large group of people in one place the "bad" people will find a away to exploit
[20:26]  * erUSUL nods
[20:26] <IdleOne> erUSUL: the responsibility is ours to teach and be good examples.
[20:28]  * erUSUL doesn't want to be anybody's example ;P
[20:28] <IdleOne> haha
[20:28] <IdleOne> to late my friend, you already are :)
[20:28] <IdleOne> and a good one
[20:30]  * erUSUL blushes
[20:31] <erUSUL> tyvm; but it is not deserved ;)
[20:31] <IdleOne> Why would you say that?
[20:32] <IdleOne> if you are anything in real life like what I have seen in irc. you are a good person.
[20:33] <erUSUL> fake humble then ;P
[20:33] <IdleOne> haha
[20:34] <m4v> erUSUL speaks ill of you all in es-ops!
[20:34] <m4v> I saw it I saw it!
[20:34] <IdleOne> I know, I have logs
[20:34]  * erUSUL treason!! treason!!
[20:34] <IdleOne> :P
[20:34] <Tm_T> he is spartacus!
[20:34]  * Tm_T hides
[20:34] <m4v> haha
[22:31] <arand> Should there not be a less "HELP!!!" way of calling the ops? Current factoid feels a bit over the top..
[22:34] <persia> arand: It's intended that way.  In most cases 1) there are ops watching and 2) there are ways to resolve the issue without falling back to technical solutions
[22:35] <jussi01> arand: simply droping into -ops and saying something is also acceptable
[22:36] <arand> Okay, I've had a telling-off for that..
[22:36] <jussi01> arand: hrm?
[22:37] <arand> It's just that the factoid is kind of disruptive for the channel, and if it's an attention-troll...
[22:38] <jussi01> arand: you are allowed to drop by the -ops channel. dont over use it, but we are there to help.
[22:38] <arand> At some point someone in -ops said "that's what the !ops are for" when I pointed out a some issue in #ubu, iirc
[22:39] <jussi01> arand: yes, if its an emergenc, then use !ops, but if not, just a smaller issue, feel free to drop by
[22:39] <arand> jussi01: Ok, will do, cheers.
[22:39] <jussi01> the difference being, !ops will get everyone running, where as a word in -ops will get someone to take a look.