[00:00] <akgraner> svaksha, I can't delete the Ubuntu Media relations from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-women/+members?active_start=150&active_batch=75  can you take a look - if you can't then I'll send a request to the LP folks
[00:00] <issyl0> Day changed to 27th Feb 2010, there we go.
[00:08] <akgraner> svaksha, nevermind - it's a bug in LP and they are aware of it
[00:11]  * issyl0 is off now, g'night everyone.
[00:21] <pleia2> if anyone is interested in bug work, there is a session in #ubuntu-classroom about it now, free for all q&a
[00:21] <pleia2> captive bug squashing expert at your disposal! :) he needs more people attending, no one is asking questions :(
[00:25] <Pendulum> I just got told by my roommate I'm not allowed to pick up bug sqaud work :( (although I am actually trying to pay attention)
[00:26] <pleia2> hehe
[00:26] <Pendulum> something about too much real life non-software bug squashing in our lives and something about my already being overcommitted
[00:26] <Pendulum> I'm not positive it will stop me ;)
[00:27] <pleia2> ick
[00:27] <pleia2> :)
[11:45] <issyl0> Morning!
[11:47] <Pendulum> hiya issyl0
[11:54] <issyl0> Hello, I wondered if you were around actually - time for a PM?
[12:58] <czajkowski> aloha
[15:06] <akgraner> czajkowski, when do did you give your next talk?
[15:07] <Pendulum> akgraner: she's giving it in less than an hour
[15:08] <akgraner> Pendulum, ahh ok I though it was today - but this week has been brutal - so I wasn't sure of the dates :-/
[15:08] <Pendulum> she has been around off and on so maybe she'll see and answer herself :)
[15:09] <akgraner> I did my 1st podcast yesterday and I didn't get to talk about the UW project as much as we had planned so I am getting invited back
[15:10] <akgraner> It's a mac podcast and the lady that does it was at SCaLE so we traded jabs a little
[15:10] <nigelb> akgraner: you should have your own podcast ;)
[15:11] <akgraner> nigelb, hehe  - I've heard that from a few people  - not enough hours in the day right now
[15:11] <nigelb> akgraner: wish I could help :(
[15:11] <nigelb> (not in increasing the number of hours)
[15:12] <Pendulum> akgraner: what podcast?
[15:12] <akgraner> nigelb, Last year when I started all this I did not have a job - and now I do :-)
[15:12] <nigelb> akgraner: ah, that explains the lack of time
[15:12] <akgraner> Pendulum, let me grab the link
[15:13] <akgraner> NosillaCast Podcast at http://podfeet.comA technology geek podcast with an EVER so slight Macintosh bias!
[15:13] <czajkowski> akgraner: talk at 15:40 mdz is talking now
[15:13] <akgraner> Pendulum, NosillaCast Podcast at http://podfeet.com  A technology geek podcast with an EVER so slight Macintosh bias!
[15:13] <akgraner> czajkowski, ahh ok..  Good Luck!!
[15:14] <nigelb> akgraner: which is the one with you?
[15:14] <akgraner> Pendulum, I think she told me it will air tomorrow at 5pm PST
[15:14] <akgraner> nigelb, it will be tomorrow's show
[15:14] <nigelb> oh, me bookmarks
[15:15] <Pendulum> cool :)
[15:15] <akgraner> hehe she is going to have to edit it b/c skype dropped a couple times
[15:15] <Pendulum> a couple people I know used to do a podcast called geekgirls and they keep saying they may start it back up
[15:15] <akgraner> then I coughed in the middle of it - so when I talk about Ubuntu Women I sound all choked up :-/
[15:15] <Pendulum> If they do, I will suggest they talk to you about UW
[15:16] <Pendulum> er.. not geek girls, girls gone geek
[15:17] <akgraner> Pendulum, oh that sounds cool...  I need to talk to nick and Josh about Ubuntu Podcast and see what their plans are with that..
[15:17] <Pendulum> *nods*
[15:17] <Pendulum> we should really poke the UUPC guys as well
[15:18] <akgraner> But for 1 hour of video it would talk them days to edit it and get it back out
[15:18] <popey> hmm?
[15:18] <Pendulum> have someone on to talk about UW?
[15:18] <popey> i had asked akgraner :)
[15:18] <popey> we are recording on monday, but it's a packed show already
[15:18] <Pendulum> heh
[15:18] <Pendulum> it wasn't a "now" but a "at some point" suggestion :)
[15:18] <akgraner> popey, I wasn't able to help with UWN this week did they get your blurb in there?
[15:18] <popey> ok, i didnt read scrollback, sorry
[15:19] <popey> dunno akgraner
[15:19] <popey> what blurb
[15:19] <popey> uupc?
[15:19] <popey> we only release every other week, so we dont appear in uwn every week :)
[15:19] <akgraner> popey, yep the 3rd session write up
[15:19] <popey> you've lost me, sorry
[15:20] <akgraner> not the summary of the show - but the fact that your are back yadda yadda yadda
[15:20] <popey> oh, i think we were in it last week, yes
[15:20] <popey> thanks
[15:20] <akgraner> oh good...
[15:21] <akgraner> SCaLE took way more out of me that I thought it would  - 5 talks is too much
[15:21] <akgraner> so I have spent the week just playing catch up  :-)
[15:22] <akgraner> anywho announcement today sometime about voting on the stories from the contest... so when you see it can folks with a blog get the word out
[15:23] <akgraner> also any feedback on the Ubuntu Womens Day stuff?
[15:31] <akgraner> czajkowski, are you streaming your talk?
[15:32] <Pendulum> I don't think it's streaming, but czajkowski said they were videoing
[15:50] <akgraner> oh cool :-)
[15:50] <akgraner> Hey I just sent the announcement to the list about voting - basically go here http://elkbuntu.net/ubuntuwomen/  and vote for the story you like the best :-)
[16:04] <nigelb> akgraner: everyone can vote?
[16:21] <IdleOne> Some pretty nice stories in those choices
[16:21] <nigelb> I like #9 very much
[16:22] <nigelb> IdleOne: this line is beautiful "I love seeing boys scratch their heads when they realize that some girls also like gadgets, and technology"
[16:22] <IdleOne> hehe
[16:22] <nigelb> and this 'I hope to one day show young girls that there is more to life than fashion. That you can be as "fashionable" as Barbie and yet be an astronaut."
[16:23] <nigelb> now, the question is can I vote?
[16:23] <IdleOne> The story that caught me was the one where the woman in Columbia partitioned and did a dual boot install with MagicFab's help over the phone and now she is teaching her husband and kids to use Ubuntu also
[16:23] <nigelb> yep, that too ;)
[16:23] <nigelb> and the one over ICQ
[16:23] <nigelb> I'm sure is impossible on windows (I've tried)
[16:23] <IdleOne> nigelb: I think all u-w members can vote. I just voted
[16:25] <nigelb> IdleOne: me too :)
[16:25] <IdleOne> :)
[16:25]  * nigelb remembers something about linux points before getting disconnected a few days back
[16:25] <IdleOne> hahaha
[16:25] <IdleOne> yes I took 3 Linux points from you
[16:26] <IdleOne> because you did not install linux on that laptop as soon as you got it
[16:27] <nigelb> I wasn't using the laptop much either
[16:27] <nigelb> I used it heavily during the video project which was edited on premiere
[16:28] <nigelb> and my computer crashed on me
[16:28] <IdleOne> Well I would not worry to much about those 3 Linux points anyway :) you probably got like 5 million points total
[16:28] <nigelb> but I was like "this is it! I'm done with Windows"
[16:29] <IdleOne> My parents have been asking me more and more questions about Ubuntu. hmmm, think we should move this to -women
[16:30] <nigelb> yeys
[16:49] <akgraner> nigelb, yep everyone can vote :-)
[16:49] <nigelb> akgraner: thanks, I voted.  Very interesting stories :)
[16:51] <IdleOne> akgraner: are those all the stories that were submitted?
[16:52] <akgraner> IdleOne, yep :-/
[16:53] <IdleOne> akgraner: for the first time I think it is a good number. Hopefully next year will double the stories :)
[16:54] <akgraner> I hope so too - it's something new and like new things I think people sit back and watch
[16:54] <IdleOne> akgraner: Even getting just 1 story is a success.
[16:55] <akgraner> also make sure you all thank elky - she wrote the voting stuff.. none of the other voting sites worked the way we needed...
[16:56] <IdleOne> elky: +1 Thank you!!!!
[16:56] <nigelb> elky: thank you.  the voting site rocks :)
[16:57] <IdleOne> akgraner: I assume that elky's voting code will be used for other votes
[16:57] <akgraner> IdleOne, I am not sure - survey monkey and condorcet did not work for this event
[16:58] <akgraner> it all depends what the vote is for as to what is used
[16:59] <IdleOne> I see. Well I liked the way it was setup. intuitive voting system. There wasn't anything that made me wonder if I was doing it right or not
[17:01] <akgraner> yep  - we needed something quick, east, and efficient  - as this will go to the planet, sounder and a few other places before the weekend is out
[17:03] <IdleOne> We need the voting link in the topic
[17:03] <IdleOne> for those who sometimes don't look at email :)
[17:06] <IdleOne> akgraner: I just want to be clear. Anybody can vote? not just u-w members correct?
[17:08] <akgraner> yep anyone one this is a community vote
[17:08] <IdleOne> cool
[17:09]  * jussi01 hides
[17:09] <IdleOne> haha
[17:10]  * IdleOne runs
[17:46] <akgraner> Pendulum, elky great interview in Full Circle - http://fullcirclemagazine.org/issue-34/
[17:49] <Pendulum> akgraner: thanks!
[17:55] <nigelb> Pendulum, elky beautiful interview.  This one made me laugh " - I learned HTML one weekend, and realized I preferred computers to trees."
[18:17] <svaksha> akgraner: just saw your ping :)
[18:18] <nigelb> hey svaksha :)
[18:18] <svaksha> nigelb:
[18:18] <nigelb> svaksha: been quite some time?
[18:18] <nigelb> dont remember seeing you for quite a few days)
[18:19] <akgraner> svaksha, :-)  no worries - it's a known bug  - so I asked it someone could delete it
[18:24] <svaksha> k
[18:24] <svaksha> nigelb: i was here, just silent
[18:25] <nigelb> svaksha: you can be very silent then ;)
[18:35] <MarkDude> The stories are cool. People arrive at Ubuntu in different ways
[18:37] <MarkDude> The winners are decided by overall points?
[18:43] <pleia2> one of the winners is, the other is a random drawing
[18:48] <JanC> I love the bathroom stall story  :P
[18:49] <nigelb> JanC: me too
[18:49] <nigelb> I like what she says in the end of it
[18:53] <JanC> I actually like it because of the absurdness of learning to know Ubuntu from bathroom stall graffiti
[19:18] <nigelb> Interesting article, is criaglist using ubuntu http://news.hellotux.com/?n=191
[19:29] <IdleOne> nigelb: that looks a lot like Ubuntu yup
[19:29] <nigelb> the color scheme is exactly identical
[19:52] <akgraner> Grace Hopper Celebration of Women in Computing Call For Participation - http://gracehopper.org/2010/ tips here http://tinyurl.com/yzelu3m
[19:53] <akgraner> ahh I just thought of *another wiki page*  Call for Participation and Papers for events..  :-/
[19:58] <maco2> i would love to go to GHC some time
[19:59] <maco2> but why do they do it during the week?
[19:59] <maco2> how are students and professors supposed to go?
[20:01] <akgraner> I can drive there this year I am so excited :-)
[20:33] <JanC> maco2: together?  ☺
[20:33] <hypa7ia> maco2: it's the kind of thing people take time off for :/
[20:34] <maco2> hypa7ia: bit hard for students to take time off though
[20:34] <maco2> professionals might, sure
[20:34] <maco2> and teachers can get substitutes, i guess
[20:34] <hypa7ia> hypa7ia: profs are super understanding of taking time off for that kinda thing i've found
[20:34] <maco2> but students dont exactly get vacation days they can take whenever they want
[20:34] <hypa7ia> you can always ask
[20:35] <hypa7ia> "hey i'll be at $foo, may i have an extension on this paper / sit this quiz another time" etc
[20:35] <hypa7ia> works great
[20:35] <Pendulum> students at my uni took time off for things like conferences pretty often (depending on the field), a lot of times if it was relevent to their course of study no one even thought to count it as absences
[20:36] <IdleOne> especially if you hand in some sort of paper on the subject
[20:36] <IdleOne> I mean learning is learning. does it have to be in a class room...
[20:36] <Pendulum> although depending on the uni, Grace Hopper may be poorly timed (since I know a few unis where that would be a week after school starts)
[20:36] <nigelb> who knows, you might even get some brownie points for all this participation
[20:37] <IdleOne> mmm brownies
[20:37] <IdleOne> I wonder why I am 25 pounds over weight. the mere mention of food makes me hungry
[20:37] <IdleOne> hehe
[20:38] <nigelb> hehe
[21:06] <Pendulum> okay, I've left testimonials for issyl0 and nigelb today. Anyone else going for Ubuntu Member that I should know about? ;)
[21:18] <IdleOne> oh oh, can I have links please
[21:18] <IdleOne> nigelb: ^^
[21:18] <IdleOne> issyl0: ^^
[21:18] <nigelb> wiki.ubuntu.com/NigelBabu
[21:19] <nigelb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/issyl0
[21:21] <issyl0> Oh, yeah, thanks nigelb for that!
[21:22] <nigelb> np.  I thought you would be asleep
[21:22] <IdleOne> thank you
[21:22] <issyl0> nigelb: oh no, it's only half past nine on Saturday night!
[21:23] <nigelb> issyl0: its probably due to the fact that I should be sleeping
[21:23] <nigelb> its 3 am
[21:25] <issyl0> nigelb: ah... you should be sleeping, yes :O
[21:26] <nigelb> issyl0: I'm due at work in 2.5 hours
[21:26] <IdleOne> best thing now would be to stay awake
[21:26] <issyl0> Ouch, yeah, what's the point in sleeping?
[21:26] <IdleOne> if you sleep just a couple of hours you will feel worse
[21:26] <issyl0> Sleep now and you'll feel more tired, as IdleOne just said.
[21:27] <nigelb> yup
[21:27]  * IdleOne gets noms
[21:27] <nigelb> I'll get to work and somehow brave through 7 hours and hit the bed
[21:28] <nigelb> issyl0: getting more used to bug squad now?
[21:29] <issyl0> nigelb: yes, I've been having fun converting question #102615 into bug #529187 tonight and marking it as incomplete - very rewarding, I love it!
[21:29] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 529187 in pidgin (Ubuntu) "Avatar and past logs not appearing with AIM and Yahoo! Messenger on Pidgin." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529187
[21:30] <nigelb> issyl0: :)
[21:30] <issyl0> It's possibly not a good thing to be doing on a Saturday night in the "fun" category, but hey that's my life :)
[21:30] <nigelb> btw, there are plenty of ppl in -bugs who'll just reply if you ask a general question :)
[21:30] <nigelb> issyl0: join the club
[21:30] <issyl0> nigelb: mmhmm :)
[21:31] <nigelb> we have different defintions of what is 'fun' on a saturday night ;)
[21:31] <nigelb> we - geeky oss contributors :p
[21:31] <nigelb> haha
[21:32] <issyl0> Hehe we do ;)
[22:53] <elky> grrr... nigelb IdleOne, did either of you get errors when voting?
[22:53] <nigelb> elky: nope.
[22:53] <elky> nigelb, because it's not moved your votes between the prevote and vote tables. far out.
[22:54] <nigelb> elky: I voted, I got a mail.  I went to a click and clicked again
[22:54] <nigelb> I got some positive reply there
[22:54] <elky> nigelb, the votes table is empty. the prevotes table is empty.
[22:54] <nigelb> "Success -- Your token unlocked your votes! "
[22:55] <nigelb> err, something wrong with database handling?
[22:55] <elky> yeah, it gone and broken... the vm got moved *right* before amber sent the email out
[22:55] <elky> not sure
[22:55] <nigelb> written in php?
[22:56] <nigelb> I don't confess to be an expert, but if you want I can take a look at the php
[23:06] <elky> http://paste.ubuntu.com/385372/ is the bit that's failing. written at like 2am the other day. I'm now running around like a headless chicken and cant figure out wtf is wrong
[23:07]  * elky is supposed to be at a committee meeting in 2 hrs, and has no clean tshirts...
[23:07] <nigelb> elky: take a deep breath and go away from the monitor for some tiem
[23:07] <nigelb> it'll probably hit you what went wrong
[23:07] <elky> nigelb, i don't know whether you noticed, but this is /live/
[23:08] <nigelb> elky: take it offline for some time
[23:08] <nigelb> with a neat message telling we're having some trouble and we'll be back soon
[23:08] <elky> nigelb, i cant change the date of IWD2010
[23:08] <nigelb> thats today?
[23:09] <elky> no, it's 1 week. we were supposed to have /more/ than 1 week, but there was no suitible systems for this
[23:10] <elky> nigelb, did you look at the code i put in the pastebin for you to look at?
[23:10] <nigelb> I'm looking
[23:11] <nigelb> elky: the code does not have anything that strikes me.  Since I see the echo message, we're probably screwing up the logic?
[23:11] <elky> i'm suspecting we never hit the while loop
[23:11] <nigelb> same here
[23:12] <nigelb> I was about to suggest some echo before hitting the while loop and inside the while loop
[23:12] <elky> but there's no reason why not... if it's deleting the prevotes, it ought to be selecting them up
[23:12] <nigelb> or it never entered into prevote?
[23:13] <nigelb> tell you want, I'll make a vote with my yahoo ID and check if it enters the prevote table?
[23:13] <nigelb> s/want/what
[23:13] <elky> it's just as easy for me to remove my email from the table and check
[23:13] <nigelb> :)
[23:14] <nigelb> then do so :)
[23:14] <elky> waiting for the email as we speak
[23:15] <nigelb> you're ahead of the game than me
[23:15] <elky> it's hitting the while loop
[23:15] <elky> added an echo ".";
[23:15] <elky> ...............Success -- Your token unlocked your votes!
[23:16] <nigelb> which means its not writing to the vote table
[23:16] <elky> yeah
[23:16] <elky> and i know it was happily doing it bnefore, since i did a test run then emptied the table then told amber to go live with it
[23:17] <elky> wow... the votes are there now..
[23:17] <nigelb> all of them?
[23:17] <elky> no, just the ones i just tested
[23:17] <nigelb> hm, wonder what went wrong then
[23:19] <elky> oh.... i see.... it's phpmyadmin's fault.
[23:19] <elky> and me panicking
[23:19] <nigelb> hahah
[23:19]  * nigelb mails elky a chillpill ;)
[23:19] <elky> it was showing me votes 60 + and i just put it over the 60 threshhold testing
[23:19] <elky> IDIOT SYSTEM
[23:20]  * Pendulum hugs elky
[23:20] <nigelb> elky: so all the old votes are there too right?
[23:21] <elky> yep
[23:21]  * nigelb cheers :)
[23:21] <nigelb> all hail elky
[23:24] <elky> someone really needs to make phpmyadmin's browse panel much less confusing
[23:29] <nigelb> hm, true.  but its better than directly going into mysql shell
[23:30] <elky> definitely
[23:32] <nigelb> elky: you're interview was really nice :)
[23:32] <nigelb> some parts cracked me up, some parts were bold and daring, and some were inspiring :)
[23:33] <nigelb> with a little bit of merge of all of them
[23:33] <elky> hehe, thanks
[23:33]  * elky cannot remember what she said now
[23:36] <nigelb> elky: this one was funny "I learned HTML one weekend, and realized I preferred computers to trees."
[23:36] <elky> tehehe
[23:36] <elky> the alternative the teacher wanted me to use was Word. For webpages. No kidding.
[23:37] <nigelb> what the !
[23:37] <nigelb> if it was front page - thats believable
[23:37] <nigelb> (though it sucks - really badly)
[23:38] <elky> anyway, i need to get to this committee meeting
[23:38] <nigelb> and I need to leave for work
[23:38]  * nigelb waves goodbye to everyone 
[23:57] <rww> I made a webpage with Word once, for the heck of it. The source code is barely recognizable as HTML :(
[23:59] <nigelb> rww: more like junk :p