[00:50] <confusious> can anyone explain to me  how to use the terminal to uninstall several programs at one time ? I saw a post about it in the Ubuntu forums once recently.But,for the life of me,I just cannot seem to find that particular thread today
[00:52] <bazhang> confusious, sudo apt-get remove xmms2 k3b ubuntu-desktop packagenameetc.
[01:48] <confusious> Baz...dude,I'm so sorry.I completely lost it.I went for a shower.If yo're still here,I apologize.And,thanks for the help
[01:49] <bazhang> confusious, was that what you were looking for?
[01:51] <confusious> Well,I do have to say,that just doesn't sound like what I've seen before
[01:51] <rr72> confusious~ aptitude maybe? I never have used it before though
[01:52] <confusious> Well,now actually,I suppose that's another idea.That would probably work
[01:53] <confusious> I could have sworn though,that I had at one time seen ib the forums a post about this
[03:02] <EndlessNameless> hello everyone
[03:17] <walker_> Anyone here comfortable with video driver issues in the latest stable Xubuntu release?
[03:24] <EndlessNameless> walker_ - ive installed and used a few, but i wouldnt say im an expert by any. what problem are you having?
[03:24] <EndlessNameless> er
[03:24] <EndlessNameless> by any means, that is
[03:30] <walker_> Ah.
[03:31] <walker_> My problem is that this older Compaq laptop has a Radeon Mobility 7000 video card, and when I run lshw it's shown as unclaimed.
[03:32]  * psycho_oreos wishes lucid would have proper ext4 support and there's a defragment tool for it, ext3 seems to be getting shoddy now on jaunty with creating a directory taking around 3 seconds
[03:32] <walker_> I know the latest X build has driver support for it. Just not sure how to make this Xubuntu install happy with the video.
[03:32] <psycho_oreos> ati's support has been patchy, especially their binary builds don't seem to support legacy chipsets real well
[03:34] <walker_> ATI's binary doesn't support the mobility 7000, but I know there are Linux drivers for the card. The question is how to get them onto my Xubuntu install and get them running.
[03:34] <psycho_oreos> depends on the driver, for the binary its fglrx but for the other one I think is ati but I could be mistaken, do you have graphical session running?
[03:36] <walker_> Well, it's working as a simple frame buffer device, so yeah, the XFCE GUI is loading. But I do get a little periodic artifacting and it's SLOW.
[03:37] <psycho_oreos> yup that's the typical symptoms heh, umm well the free open sourced one won't be that much faster I believe but you may need to edit xorg.conf, which these days is vastly blank, there might be some useful info in Xorg.0.log for configuration options in regards to video chip
[03:38] <walker_> The thing is, if the lshw command returns that the graphics card is unclaimed, it's clear something ain't right. So it's able to use it as a generic frame buffer. I'd prefer to use it as a Radeon.
[03:39] <walker_> And I've read some ways to configure xorg.conf to get more speed out of the card, but I can't find that file on my system, interestingly enough. But most instructions on how to find it date from 2007
[03:40] <psycho_oreos> I think these days, people would use fglrx and be happy with it, like I said, ati's binary driver is really patchy, and there's been all sorts of questions on how to get radeon to work instead of fglrx on later builds of *buntu
[03:42] <walker_> Well, so how to I at least try to get rid of the artifacting? Or is that even an option, then?
[03:45] <psycho_oreos> not sure what you meant by artifacting to be honest
[03:47] <walker_> Sometimes I get these rounded-edged rectangles, black with thin colored lines and dashes in them, that just appear in places, either when the mouse cursor moves over a particular area of the screen or when, say, a particular application is open.
[03:48] <walker_> My best guess is that something isn't sending quite the right signals to the frame buffer.
[03:48] <psycho_oreos> hmm
[03:49] <psycho_oreos> either that or the framebuffer support is different than expected with the typical set of chipsets to be supported
[03:49] <walker_> Like the wireless widget in the upper right on the top bar. Sometimes mousing around up in that area produces one in a particular place. But then, sometimes it isn't there for a while. I can scrub the mouse up and down and it'll appear and disappear.
[03:49] <psycho_oreos> ahh kinda like laggy sort of thing
[03:50] <walker_> No, the menu for the wireless thing doesn't even have to be open. Just having the mouse up in that area will sometimes do it.
[03:50] <psycho_oreos> I suppose that would be the marks left by the cursor then
[03:50] <walker_> Also, when I opened Firefox for the first time, for the first 5 minutes there was a larger rectangle in the middle of the window, overlapping the display area and the button bar.
[03:51] <psycho_oreos> hmm
[03:51] <walker_> It's a much larger rectangle than the cursor. On a 14" 4x3 laptop display roughly 2 inches by .75 inches for the first one, 3.5 x 1.5 for the one in Firefox.
[03:51] <walker_> Both went away.
[03:51] <psycho_oreos> well the best thing I suggest is to try make it use radeon
[03:52] <walker_> Well, I'm going to try using the ATI binary, just for the heck of it. It that breaks, oh well. I want to make this laptop useful, but I'm willing to experiment with it.
[03:52] <psycho_oreos> despite what you said that fglrx doesn't support it :)
[03:53] <walker_> Lemme find the link I was reading that talked about support. I don't think it's supported in fglrx, but it is supported in X by some means or another...
[03:55] <SandGorgon> hi guys.. has anybody able to use Thunar with SMB browsing (similar to nautilus) - I think it was being worked on
[04:13] <walker_> Multi-tasking involving hard drive activity and a p3 with only 256 MB RAM is apparently not a great idea... hrm.... Not yet got that link because of it.
[04:16] <psycho_oreos> probably it'll be better off if you did the whole thing in CLI
[04:16] <psycho_oreos> 256 is quite puny
[04:25] <walker_> I'm not quite that Linux savvy. I talk the talk and I baby-steps the walk ; )
[04:26] <walker_> OK, so here's some info on the same hardware in Thinkpads. Should be nearly identical, frankly.  http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Mobility_Radeon_7000
[04:26] <walker_> But yeah, the RAM's a real killer. Hurt me in XP Home as well.
[04:34] <psycho_oreos> I honestly don't think you can expect much of a performance with 256MB whilst using GUI
[04:35] <walker_> It's what I have. I'm trying to make do. It would be a shame just to chuck this thing.
[04:36] <walker_> I'm OK with single-tasking.
[04:36] <psycho_oreos> I didn't imply you had to chuck it away, you can for example use something like puppylinux or DSL
[04:37] <psycho_oreos> something that will go easier on systems with very little RAM
[04:38] <psycho_oreos> if it was me, I'd look into buying more RAM, but they're not going to be cheap, especially being a P3 which is ancient and the other is that its a laptop
[04:39] <walker_> I checked the minimum reqs for Xubuntu and they looked in the clear, but I guess being over the minimum isn't enough these days (min being 192). At least it's a 1ghz p3.
[04:39] <walker_> And I actually think my HD is the biggest bottleneck. It's a chugger.
[04:39] <psycho_oreos> not really I meant the hardware expectations change over a period of time
[04:40] <psycho_oreos> and barely scraping over the minimum would be a daunting job with one needing to quickly finding ways of stopping things he/she does not need
[04:41] <walker_> I suspect the video driver issue will still bite me in the rear, however.
[04:42] <psycho_oreos> yes the driver issue is currently a bit of issue when one uses GUI but even if you address it, other issues will soon be evident
[04:43] <walker_> I mean moving to a lighter distro will still see video issues, likely.
[04:43] <psycho_oreos> yes but to a lesser extent, probably
[04:43] <walker_> If I can resolve the issues with the current install I should be able to generalize the skills to a different distro. That way I can continue to play for a little while with Xubuntu.
[04:47] <walker_> So your suggestion would be forget Xubuntu, try puppylinux, possible persistence of video driver issues nonwithstanding.
[04:49] <psycho_oreos> probably, I mean there isn't much documentation on how to properly write up xorg.conf anyway
[04:49] <psycho_oreos> something of which you'll need to do by hand
[04:49] <psycho_oreos> wait
[04:50] <walker_> Well, if what I need to know is in that link I'll just need some advice on how to get started.
[04:50] <psycho_oreos> that thinkwiki has an output which might be of some use
[04:51] <psycho_oreos> under that Optimal xorg.conf settings, copy and paste the whole thing in the cream coloured box into your xorg.conf
[04:52] <walker_> I looked where I was "supposed" to find xorg.conf and didn't see it. I'll look again. Care to provide the path in case what I have is wrong?
[04:52] <walker_> It's in /etc/X11, right?
[04:53] <psycho_oreos> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:53] <walker_> I haven't got a xorg.conf file...
[04:54] <walker_> Interesting...
[04:54] <psycho_oreos> which is what I meant, you'll need to create one and paste that in
[04:54] <walker_> XvCMConfig... Xwrapper.config...
[04:55] <walker_> OK. LEssee... What editor. I can touch the file first to create an empty file, but why bother... What's the simplest text editor? WIM won't kick my butt, will it?
[04:55] <walker_> No VIM...
[04:56] <psycho_oreos> nano
[04:56] <psycho_oreos> nano should be nice and easy if you're not familiar with vim
[04:56] <walker_> a'ight
[04:56] <walker_> BTW, thanks for all your help. I know just enough to shoot myself in the foot.
[04:56] <EndlessNameless> haha my foot is full of holes too, dont worry
[04:56] <psycho_oreos> heh no guarantees that it'll work
[04:58] <walker_> If I wanted a guarantee I'd have bought a netbook with my nonexistant cash and written off this relic.
[04:58] <walker_> But then, I never could throw away technology that had the gall to keep working.
[04:58] <psycho_oreos> netbook isn't always the answer lol
[05:00] <walker_> Alright, nano is open and I have an empty xorg.conf file.
[05:01] <psycho_oreos> copy and paste the contents of that cream box into nano
[05:02] <walker_> I see the box. Confidentially, on this old LCD there isn't anythign cream about it. Sort of a phosphorescent soft-gray, relatively uniform...  ; )
[05:02] <walker_> Is that all the content the file needs, or are there some other formalities I should throw in?
[05:03] <psycho_oreos> well basically, whatever that isn't mentioned in that conf file will be literally autoprobed
[05:03] <psycho_oreos> but as far as video is concerned, that's all you'll need
[05:04] <walker_> I shall reboot this sucker and see what happens. I will report back with news. This thinkwiki page might be worth a sticky somewhere for other sad saps.
[05:05] <psycho_oreos> heh
[05:18] <walker_> psycho_oreo, artifacting has been reduced significantly. Things still drag, but they're a bit more tolerable now. Seems things are somewhat improved. Thanks for your help. I also know what to do when I play with other distros.
[05:22] <Balsaq> sop T
[05:22] <Balsaq> sup*
[05:24] <psycho_oreos> walker_, np
[05:24] <psycho_oreos> walker_, afterall you pointed that link out initially anyway
[05:26] <walker_> True, but what is knowledge if you don't know how to use it? I am wiser for your assistance. I will also try a few puplets (Puppy Linux) from CD or flashdrive to see how they hash out, but for now Xubuntu stays on the laptop, if only because I'm sick of screwing around with it ATM.
[05:27] <psycho_oreos> heh somewhat I suppose.
[05:29] <walker_> Well, the laptop is not a smoking crater. I consider that a success. It doesn't have a battery (long dead), it's on its second HD (slow as cheese in a Wisconsin winter), and is probably 7 years old. No miracles here.
[05:37] <walker_> Welp, I'm out. Thanks.
[05:55] <Balsaq> good morning xubuntu technicians, software engineers, coders and weekend warriors....
[05:56] <Balsaq> yo _Techie_ !!!!!!!!!!
[05:56] <_Techie_> heya bal
[06:00] <Balsaq> man i got computers running all over the place? they have multiplied and are taking over my house!
[06:21] <EndlessNameless> i was just thinking that about myself the other day
[06:21] <EndlessNameless> but i love them all
[06:25] <_Techie_> i have a few but im only running one atm
[06:26] <_Techie_> and im slowly upgrading it
[06:28] <Balsaq> i just can't seem to throw out a computer that still runs
[06:28] <Balsaq> in fact i take in orphans...
[06:35] <OngaWezyrka> Aloha bruda
[06:35] <OngaWezyrka> Pici brotha Sysi brotha Ola!
[06:36] <psycho_oreos> !br | OngaWezyrka
[06:37] <psycho_oreos> oops
[06:37] <psycho_oreos> !hu | OngaWezyrka
[06:37] <OngaWezyrka> ubottu brotha: I am hungarian, not a portugese, BROTHA'
[06:38] <OngaWezyrka> psycho_oreos bruder: I hate the hungarian stupid unofficial #ubuntu-hu channel
[06:39] <psycho_oreos> OngaWezyrka, well, I was mistaken initially by the way you spoke, until I saw that you're connection is from Hungary :)
[06:40] <OngaWezyrka> No problem. I understood. I am Ongavezyr Da Holyness:D
[06:40] <psycho_oreos> -_-
[06:40] <OngaWezyrka> I am da favor of Allah
[06:41] <OngaWezyrka> El il Allahu Akhbar, brotha:D
[06:41] <OngaWezyrka> Justice and Freedom for Palestina!
[06:41] <psycho_oreos> umm yeah ok, all that is really offtopic
[06:43] <OngaWezyrka> Maybe
[07:22] <Balsaq> _Techie_ are you on?
[07:27] <john> Any suggestions for a good JavaScript text editor to use in Ubuntu other than gEdit?
[07:44] <Balsaq> Quanta Plus is a great HTML and CSS editor
[13:06] <Aled__> :S
[14:41] <kangarooo> ive just installed xubuntu . dual boot windows and xubuntu. how from xubuntu to acces windows partition?
[14:42] <kangarooo> ill need this info couse ill install xubuntu for 2 more friends dual boot way
[14:43] <bazhang> file sharing?
[14:44] <kangarooo> so i could acces windows harddrive
[14:50] <psycho_oreos> you'll need something like ntfs-3g
[14:51] <bazhang> thought that was standard for some time now
[14:53] <psycho_oreos> it has, dunno why there's any need to mention it *shrugs* maybe windows keep changing their ntfs versions and other things to make it harder for those who work in other various OS? :)
[14:53] <bazhang> was thinking along the lines of samba
[14:53] <bazhang> hah
[14:53] <kangarooo> on clean installation i cant acces windows drive
[14:53] <psycho_oreos> which version?
[14:53] <bazhang> 9.10?
[14:54] <bazhang> real dual boot or wubi?
[14:56] <kangarooo> 9.10 yes
[14:56] <kangarooo> dual boot
[14:57] <psycho_oreos> which version of windows?
[14:59] <bazhang> ah win7 /boot partition  unrecognized drive
[14:59] <bazhang> kangarooo, win7?
[15:01] <kangarooo> no xp
[15:02] <bazhang> odd
[15:03] <psycho_oreos> what if you tried manually mounting it?
[15:05] <eXpl0i7> bazhang: go to applications -> accessories -> catfish click on folder option and select other
[15:05] <eXpl0i7> you will se all partitions
[15:06] <bazhang> eXpl0i7, I think you mean that for kangarooo , but thanks :)
[15:06] <psycho_oreos> you meant for kangarooo
[15:06] <psycho_oreos> lol
[15:06] <eXpl0i7> xDDD
[15:06] <eXpl0i7> lol
[15:06] <eXpl0i7> my bad xD
[15:44] <AlphaOne> if my network adapter works in Ubuntu, will it work in Xubuntu?
[15:44] <knome> yes.
[15:44] <AlphaOne> is there a large speed difference between xubuntu and ubuntu?
[15:44] <AlphaOne> processing speed
[15:44] <knome> depends on how much/little resources you have
[15:44] <knome> with slower computers, the speed difference will be more significant
[15:44] <AlphaOne> I'm using ubuntu now, but it can be a little sluggish sometimes
[15:45] <knome> then xubuntu would probably be better for you
[15:45] <AlphaOne> not sure of the specs on this laptop
[15:45] <AlphaOne> only been using linux about a week or so
[15:45] <knome> of course if you run lots of applications parallely, even xubuntu can be slow
[15:45] <AlphaOne> I dont
[15:45] <knome> AlphaOne, you can try xubuntu by installing the package xubuntu-desktop
[15:45] <knome> and choosing xfce session from login screen
[15:46] <AlphaOne> I downloaded the xubuntu iso
[15:46] <AlphaOne> I can just run that
[15:47] <AlphaOne> what do I do when a program locks up in linux?
[15:48] <psycho_oreos> you pretty much kill it
[15:48] <AlphaOne> how?
[15:48] <AlphaOne> no ctrl alt del
[15:48] <psycho_oreos> pkill
[15:48] <AlphaOne> whats pkill?
[15:48] <psycho_oreos> linux CLI tools
[15:48] <psycho_oreos> its called pid kill
[15:49] <AlphaOne> how do i do hat
[15:49] <AlphaOne> that
[15:49] <psycho_oreos> open up terminal and type pkill `name of program'
[15:49] <AlphaOne> ok
[15:49] <psycho_oreos> usually if you click close it, wait a few moments and it will ask you if you want to kill it or not :p
[15:49] <AlphaOne> is there a task manager where I can see the various program running
[15:50] <psycho_oreos> there is system monitor
[15:50] <AlphaOne> o?
[16:19] <kangarooo> in gigolo i cant connect to windows partition. Connecting to "10 GB Filesystem" failed. Authentication is required
[16:19] <psycho_oreos> probably encrypted ntfs lol
[16:20] <kangarooo> i just installed ntfs configuration tool. maybe that will help. but gigolo is used for accessing.. no its not encrypted
[16:20] <eXpl0i7> this is normal
[16:21] <eXpl0i7> just check remember me
[16:21] <kangarooo> this ntfs cofiguration tool worked.. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[16:21] <kangarooo> yes success. but sadly gigolo didnt work :(
[16:34] <kangarooo> i just installed xubuntu on new computer and made all upades. now gru-pc window pops up and asks what version i want. wat to choose?
[16:35] <charlie-tca> The top one,
[16:35] <charlie-tca> if this is the menu
[16:35] <kangarooo> maintainers version?
[16:35] <kangarooo> package maintainers version?
[16:35] <charlie-tca> Oh, did you modify the grub at all?
[16:36] <charlie-tca> If you have made no changes to it, yes, maintainers version
[16:36] <kangarooo> grub is showingn ubuntu and windows xp. its dual boot
[16:36] <kangarooo> ok
[17:44] <belak> What has changes in 10.04? Anything major?
[17:44] <charlie-tca> plymouth and nouveau
[17:45] <belak> nouveau was added?
[17:45] <belak> Sweet
[17:45] <belak> And what's plymouth?
[17:45] <charlie-tca> nouveau replaces nv
[17:45] <belak> Yeah, I use it in gentoo
[17:45] <charlie-tca> plymouth replaces usplash, partly
[17:46] <belak> Oh, ok
[18:10] <exeee> hello.. im lame.. i cant read im half blind so the text on the xubuntu.com is not good
[18:10] <exeee> whtats the big differents from usual ubuntu?
[18:12] <psycho_oreos> it has xfce frontend as opposed to gnome
[18:12] <psycho_oreos> much like kubuntu has kde instead of gnome and lubuntu with lxde
[18:13] <charlie-tca> !xubuntu
[18:13] <exeee> xfce is much faster on lesser hadware computers right_
[18:13] <exeee> livecd_
[18:13] <belak> psycho_oreos: I didn't even know lubuntu existed
[18:14] <psycho_oreos> slightly faster than ubuntu, when you're comparing xubuntu
[18:14] <belak> exeee: for speed on olderhardware lubuntu? > xubuntu > ubuntu > kubuntu
[18:14] <belak> I believe
[18:14] <psycho_oreos> belak, well its not officially out yet, they do have lxde-desktop as a virtual package, I hear its going to be released in lucid
[18:15] <exeee> okey.. its livecds right?
[18:15] <psycho_oreos> yes its available in both livecd and desktop format
[18:15] <psycho_oreos> much like normal ubuntu
[18:30] <kost_t-human> Äîáðîãî âðåìåíè, íàðîä =)
[18:31] <eXpl0i7> ሎል ሽዽ
[18:31] <eXpl0i7> ፡)
[18:33] <kost_t-human> áëèí, ñ êîäèðîâêîé ÷òî òî...
[18:33] <kost_t-human> ó ìåíÿ=(
[18:40] <eXXE> is alternate version live?
[18:40] <eXXE> some one said that desktop wasnt live
[18:41] <eXXE> taking both now
[18:43] <bazhang> eXXE, no, its ncurses based
[18:43] <bazhang> eXXE, a kind of graphical command line, that is install only (ie no try before you install live environment)
[18:43] <eXXE> both?
[18:44] <eXXE> like console then_
[18:44] <eXXE> ?
[18:44] <bazhang> the alternative
[18:44] <eXXE> ?
[18:44] <bazhang> not exactly
[18:44] <bazhang> like the console, but you can up arrow, enter, etc to make choices
[18:44] <eXXE> i installed slackware -97 havent used linux since
[18:45] <bazhang> alternative is quite nice to use, particularly if you have special formatting needs
[18:45] <bazhang> ie separate /boot /home   etc
[18:46] <eXXE> i wanna run xp also on the same computer
[18:47] <eXXE> stil works fine with lileboot or is there anything better/never_
[18:47] <eXXE> ?
[18:48] <bazhang> sure
[18:48] <bazhang> grub2
[18:48] <eXXE> yeah grub.. iver read about it
[18:49] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[18:49] <eXXE> its easy to have one ubuntu, 1 xubuntu and one xp?
[18:50] <bazhang> well..
[19:30] <Balsaq> good afternoon Lords of The Code...
[19:38] <charlie-tca> Hello, Balsaq
[19:38] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello charlie-tca
[19:38] <Sachse_Siechtum> :-)
[19:38] <charlie-tca> Hello, Sachse_Siechtum
[19:39] <Sachse_Siechtum> charlie-tca, hows going?
[19:39] <charlie-tca> Great! Alpha3 is out, daily live cd has xubuntu slideshow now, not too many bugs
[19:40] <Sachse_Siechtum> Alpha3 of what? :-)
[19:40] <Sachse_Siechtum> newest xubuntu build?
[19:41] <charlie-tca> yup
[19:41] <charlie-tca> lucid
[19:41] <Sachse_Siechtum> sweet :-)
[19:41] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah yeah
[19:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> whats the full name? Lucid llama? *grin*
[19:43] <charlie-tca> lucid lynx
[19:43] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah :-)
[19:43] <charlie-tca> It will be an LTS version, good for 3 years for xubuntu, 5 years on servers
[19:43] <Balsaq> is that 10.4 you spak of?
[19:43] <Sachse_Siechtum> sweet. can I update to it, when I have karmic installed?
[19:43] <Balsaq> speak*
[19:44] <knome> Balsaq, 10.04, not 10.4
[19:44] <Balsaq> oh ok
[19:44] <Balsaq> may be the one that moves me off of 9.04
[19:44] <charlie-tca> Yes, but it is not ready for production use yet
[19:45] <Sachse_Siechtum> I see :-) I bet I gonna get a notification when its released :-)
[19:45] <charlie-tca> take a look at the release notes: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha3
[19:45] <charlie-tca> Yes, when it is finalized, update-manager will alert you that an upgrade to the new version is ready
[19:46] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah
[19:46] <Sachse_Siechtum> do you happen to know if the "mute" bug is fixed?
[19:46] <Sachse_Siechtum> "sound muted after boot"
[19:47] <charlie-tca> It is at this time
[19:47] <Sachse_Siechtum> sweet :-)
[19:47] <charlie-tca> and, yes, I do use pulse audio, thanks for asking
[19:47] <Sachse_Siechtum> me too :-)
[19:47] <Sachse_Siechtum> I mean I use it
[19:51] <charlie-tca> My volume control in lucid does not come up muted, but it still does in 9.10
[19:52] <Sachse_Siechtum> Yeah.
[19:55] <Sysi-> i'm a bit stupid, i'm testing how much uptime i'll get with lucid on netbook as server
[19:56] <Sachse_Siechtum> uptime = timeperiod on battery?
[19:57] <Sysi-> no, "uptime" to terminal
[19:57] <Balsaq> what ext does 10.04 use?
[19:58] <Sachse_Siechtum> ext4....
[19:58] <Balsaq> ty
[19:58] <Sachse_Siechtum> but also ext3 and 2
[19:58] <Balsaq> oh good i like 3
[19:58] <Sachse_Siechtum> it can also read ntfs and fat32..
[19:59] <Sachse_Siechtum> ntfs fat32 r/w
[19:59] <Balsaq> we are really moving up
[19:59] <Sachse_Siechtum> :-)
[20:00] <charlie-tca> Sysi: I would think it will run until the kernel needs to be updated, when you will need to reboot.
[20:01] <Sysi-> why to reboot then, it's not *that* obligatory
[20:03] <knome> :P
[20:04] <Sysi-> i have older kernel on desktop and it runs fine
[20:05] <charlie-tca> Security ?
[20:07] <knome> he probably only has the same nature videos than everybody else
[20:07] <knome> and there's faster seeds
[20:08] <Sachse_Siechtum> LOL
[20:09] <Sysi-> well, currently it's behind routers firewall
[20:09] <knome> it = the videos?
[20:10] <Sysi-> i don't keep videos on netbook with 8gb hd
[20:10] <Sysi-> they're on this desktop ofc
[20:10] <knome> oh right
[20:10] <knome> and then you stream them to your netbook at bed?
[20:12] <Sysi-> i prefer this chair
[20:12] <knome> thanks for the information
[20:12] <Sysi-> you know, bigger is better, it's cool on 22" fullscreen
[20:14] <Sysi-> is this making somebody to feel uncomfortable?
[20:15] <knome> no
[20:15] <knome> i think everybody just felt the nature called them
[20:15] <Sachse_Siechtum> LOL just thinking of this "truenuff" mac ad movie on youtube *g*
[20:16] <Sysi-> i haven't seen it
[20:17] <Sachse_Siechtum> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8lW8ndh5BU&feature=SeriesPlayList&p=DED094DC7559526D
[20:18] <knome> umm
[20:18] <Sachse_Siechtum> no youtube links allowed?
[20:19] <knome> maybe that was a bit too obviously low-style :P
[20:19] <knome> this is a family-friendly channel after all
[20:19] <Sachse_Siechtum> sorry
[20:19] <knome> np:)
[20:20] <Sachse_Siechtum> I also know that linux doesnt has that good image in these videos :-(
[20:21] <Sysi-> i remember comic about that, it starts normally with pc and mac, but when linux tells who he is, they start beating him up
[20:22] <Sachse_Siechtum> *g*
[20:22] <Sachse_Siechtum> I dunno that comic..
[20:22] <Sysi-> site where it was is down
[20:22] <Sachse_Siechtum> I see
[20:23] <Sysi-> oh yeah, and pc has a baseball bat
[20:23] <Sachse_Siechtum> I just laugh about the comments on those youtube videos...its basically all about "apple is better...WinXP is better..apple is better"... *g*
[20:23] <Sysi-> http://www.innergeek.us/blog/2008/12/mac-pc-linux_comic.jpg
[20:24] <Sysi-> that's a bit harsh
[20:24] <EndlessNameless> xubuntu ftw =D
[20:24] <EndlessNameless> sorry i had to.
[20:25] <Sysi-> mouse is too fast to get beaten up :)
[20:26] <Sachse_Siechtum> LOL
[20:27] <Sachse_Siechtum> some better linux ads: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-329Czokjk
[20:28] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello subspider :-)
[20:29] <Sachse_Siechtum> Linux is hot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LAXg_UmzTY
[20:29] <Sachse_Siechtum> ;-)
[20:29] <Sysi-> that first was great :D
[20:29] <Sachse_Siechtum> "hot"
[20:29] <Sachse_Siechtum> yeah
[20:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> they are all great :-) the novell one I mean
[20:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> ones
[20:30] <Sysi-> but i'll check those out myself, everybody has seen them etc
[20:31] <Sachse_Siechtum> alright :-)
[20:33] <subspider> hello Sachse_Siechtum
[20:33] <Sachse_Siechtum> hey subspider...whats up?
[20:36] <subspider> good man i loe you video
[20:36] <subspider> well novell video
[20:38] <Sachse_Siechtum> thanks :-)
[20:39] <Sachse_Siechtum> I was just eating in a greek restaurant with my ex gf
[20:39] <knome> exgf? :F
[20:39] <knome> gosh that's weird
[20:40] <knome> well anyway, see you later ->
[20:40] <Sachse_Siechtum> cya
[20:40] <Sysi-> ya not spaek intarnetz? :P
[20:40] <Sachse_Siechtum> ;-)
[20:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> I think he meant...that "ex" in ex gf
[20:53] <AlphaOne> hey
[20:54] <AlphaOne> how do I have Xubuntu display the date?
[20:54] <charlie-tca> Where?
[20:54] <AlphaOne> up in the top
[20:54] <charlie-tca> should be a calendar in the top right of the panel
[20:54] <AlphaOne> next to the clock
[20:54] <AlphaOne> I accidentally removed it somehow
[20:54] <charlie-tca> Oh
[20:54] <AlphaOne> today is my first day using xubuntu
[20:55] <charlie-tca> that is called orage. Look in Applications -> Office
[20:55] <AlphaOne> ok its back
[20:55] <AlphaOne> but its a little icon that says the date
[20:55] <AlphaOne> can I change it to display as 2/27/10
[20:56] <charlie-tca> I don't think so.
[20:56] <AlphaOne> its just a bit small
[20:56] <charlie-tca> I use the orage clock, myself
[20:57] <charlie-tca> Try growing the panel. Applications -> Settings -> Panel
[20:57] <charlie-tca> Make it 32 or 34
[20:57] <AlphaOne> ok will do
[20:57] <AlphaOne> I switched from ubuntu to xubuntu
[20:57] <Sachse_Siechtum> *gives free chocolate to /channel
[20:57] <AlphaOne> cuz I heard xubuntu was faster
[20:57] <charlie-tca> thanks, Sachse_Siechtum
[20:57] <AlphaOne> seems a bit faster :-)
[20:58] <AlphaOne> any other major differences?
[20:58] <charlie-tca> Doesn't use gnome
[20:58] <AlphaOne> what is gnome mean exactly?  I've heard that but I dunno what it means
[20:58] <charlie-tca> Gnome, Xfce, KDE are desktop environments. Each one has different features
[20:58] <Sachse_Siechtum> AlphaOne,  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-221827.html
[20:59] <AlphaOne> I've noticed it doesn't have OpenOffice
[20:59] <charlie-tca> They are what makes the desktop that you see and use
[20:59] <charlie-tca> Nope
[20:59] <charlie-tca> You can add it, or try Abiword
[20:59] <AlphaOne> what does it have for making powerpoint presentations?
[20:59] <charlie-tca> doesn't have anything by default
[20:59] <AlphaOne> yeah, Abiword is fine.  does it open .docx?
[21:00] <charlie-tca> I don't know if it handles .docx format
[21:00] <charlie-tca> I don't bother with Microsoft documents, myself
[21:00] <AlphaOne> I might just DL openoffice and use both
[21:00] <Sachse_Siechtum> I know that oo writer does
[21:00] <AlphaOne> me neither, but other ppl do
[21:00] <Sachse_Siechtum> yeah.
[21:01] <AlphaOne> I need some good RPGs
[21:01] <charlie-tca> I have told them not to send them to me. I won't read them. They can send me plain text documents instead
[21:02] <Sachse_Siechtum> RPGs? Role playing games?
[21:02] <AlphaOne> ya
[21:02] <Sachse_Siechtum> hmm
[21:02] <charlie-tca> DL ? why? Just open Applications -> Software Center. Add it from there
[21:02] <Sachse_Siechtum> I think there are binaries for sacred....
[21:02] <charlie-tca> Oh, or maybe it is Add/Remove Applications.
[21:03] <Sachse_Siechtum> or you can install and run windows games in WINE
[21:03] <Sachse_Siechtum> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1898
[21:03] <Sachse_Siechtum> for example
[21:04]  * charlie-tca can't remember the last time he downloaded anything
[21:04] <Sachse_Siechtum> charlie-tca, why? :-)
[21:05] <Sachse_Siechtum> bad short term memory? ;-)
[21:05] <charlie-tca> Why download ? except iso images, it is not needed in Xubuntu
[21:06] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah you mean apps for Xfce?
[21:06] <charlie-tca> yup
[21:06] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah ok. :-)
[21:08] <Sachse_Siechtum> hmm just wondering is it possible to change partition sizes (more space for xubuntu partition less on games partition) ?
[21:08] <Sachse_Siechtum> can gparted do that?
[21:08] <charlie-tca> yes, but not while you are using the partitions
[21:08] <charlie-tca> You can resize them using gparted from the live cd
[21:09] <Sachse_Siechtum> I just wanted to say that *g*
[21:09] <charlie-tca> I have done that :-)
[21:10] <Sachse_Siechtum> and there wont be any problems afterwars?
[21:10] <Sachse_Siechtum> wards
[21:10] <charlie-tca> nope
[21:10] <charlie-tca> but you got to be careful
[21:10] <charlie-tca> Also, it the partitions are not located next to each other, it may not work
[21:11] <Sachse_Siechtum> hmmmm....
[21:12] <Sachse_Siechtum> or maybe create a additional partition (like half of the games partition) in ext4 and tell playonlinux to install games there?
[21:15] <digitrev> Might anyone be able to give me a hand with some pub-key authentication issues I'm experiencing?
[21:16] <charlie-tca> !question | digitrev
[21:18] <digitrev> Right. Well, when I first ssh to my computer, it asks me for my password. But if I already have an open connection to it, it asks for my public key passphrase. Any idea why?
[21:20] <charlie-tca> Using seahorse?
[21:20] <digitrev> Seahorse? I don't think so
[21:21] <charlie-tca> It sounds like an issue with gnome-keyring, but I don't really know, myself. Maybe someone else will ...
[21:21] <digitrev> Would that be a problem on the server or the client?
[21:22] <charlie-tca> client
[21:22] <digitrev> Because I'm fairly certain that the problem is on my server, since it occurs independent of which computer I'm connecting from.
[21:22] <charlie-tca> Okay, server
[21:23] <charlie-tca> Umm, I don't really know, I guess.
[21:23] <digitrev>  Thanks anyways
[21:24] <digitrev> When I first ssh to my computer, it asks me for my password. But if I already have an open connection to it, it asks for my public key passphrase. Any idea why?
[21:27] <digitrev> When I first ssh to my computer, it asks me for my password. But if I already have an open connection to it, it asks for my public key passphrase. Any idea why?
[21:28] <Sachse_Siechtum> sign up at http://ubuntuforums.org/ and post your problem there. I'm sure they are a great deal of help.
[21:28] <digitrev> I've tried. It's been three weeks, and I'm the only person who's responded.
[21:29] <Sachse_Siechtum> :-(
[21:29] <digitrev> Exactly.
[21:29] <digitrev> It's quite a bizarre issue. It's not particularly devestating, but the fact that I can't fix it is driving me up the wall
[21:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> I know how you feel...I have 2 problems that are kinda nerving too
[21:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> printer and audio cd burning
[21:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> maybe a google search will help
[21:30] <digitrev> Ahh yes. I've never even tried to mess with those.
[21:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> I know its gonna work...I have just...to...find out....HOW! :-)
[21:55] <kangarooo> i dont have /boot/grub/menu.lst how then grub is working?
[21:55] <Sysi-> !grub2
[22:30] <AlphaOne> help meee
[22:30] <Sysi-> !ask
[22:30] <AlphaOne> why are video files playing so skippy and choppy
[22:30] <AlphaOne> oh sorry
[22:31] <Sysi-> what kind of videos?
[22:31] <AlphaOne> mkv
[22:31] <Sysi-> what graphics card?
[22:31] <AlphaOne> its actually the only type that I've tried.  the file is good, I just was watching it in windows
[22:31] <AlphaOne> no idea
[22:31] <AlphaOne> <---1 day old Xubuntu user
[22:32] <Sysi-> lspci | grep VGA
[22:32] <Sysi-> that to terminal
[22:32] <AlphaOne> 1sec, i'll check
[22:33] <AlphaOne> ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[22:35] <AlphaOne> my laptop is definitely fast enough to play videos :-\
[22:39] <Sysi-> that doesn't matter if drivers are bad
[22:39] <AlphaOne> hmmm
[22:39] <AlphaOne> what should I do?
[22:39] <Sysi-> i'm not good with those, but ATI can be difficult
[22:40] <AlphaOne> :-(
[22:41] <AlphaOne> how do I know for sure if its a driver issue?
[22:42] <Sysi-> aahem
[22:42] <Sysi-> have you tried another player?
[22:42] <AlphaOne> no
[22:42] <AlphaOne> should I try VLC?
[22:42] <Sysi-> i'd say so
[22:44] <AlphaOne> ok its downloading now
[22:47] <AlphaOne> Sysi- it does NOT skip in VLC
[22:47] <AlphaOne> it plays fine in VLC
[22:48] <Sysi-> the default player suck at times
[22:48] <AlphaOne> so the question now is, why does it not play good in Movie Player.  the problem is that it starts to skip and get out of sync, when I seek
[22:49] <Sysi-> that player is bad
[22:49] <AlphaOne> I guess I'll just use VLC
[22:50] <AlphaOne> how do I make it the DEFAULT video player, so when I double click video files, they will open in VLC?
[22:51] <Sysi-> right click over video on file manager
[22:51] <Sysi-> there's default program
[22:52] <AlphaOne> ok thanks for all the free tech support :-)
[22:52] <AlphaOne> tty;
[22:52] <AlphaOne> ttyl
[23:05] <confusious> help !!     tyring to join a "chat" I have in my "buddies" list {#pidgin},pidgin,is now telling me "cannnot join chat.registration required" Can any of you help me with this ?
[23:05] <Sysi-> !register
[23:06] <confusious> thank you...do I have to use the same one I'm using here {confusious} ?
[23:07] <Sysi-> i think you can get several nicks
[23:07] <_Techie_> good morning #Xubuntu (even though its 12:06 local time)
[23:07] <_Techie_> you can group several nicks to the same nickserv account
[23:08] <confusious> thanks sysi.......hey sysi,is ubottu a bot ?
[23:08] <confusious> geez,it's all so confusing
[23:08] <Sysi-> yes it's a bot
[23:08] <Sysi-> !ubottu
[23:08] <_Techie_> i <3 ubottu
[23:09] <Sysi-> <3
[23:09] <confusious> the reason I was going to pidgin was  because of sam e issue........I was trying to "add" a chat under "buddies" in pidgin & I began neing asked for all sorts of info
[23:10] <confusious> thank you all for the help.evn you Mr.robot