ari-tczew | Riddel: ping | 00:11 |
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maco2 | ari-tczew: you might want to leave a message for him, because he's out all weekend racing his kayak | 00:26 |
ari-tczew | maco2: thanks! so I'll not get his time because this is nothing important. ;-) | 00:28 |
maco2 | well its just that he's offline | 00:29 |
maco2 | so contentless ping isnt gonna be much help later i dont think | 00:29 |
neversfelde | ah maco2 | 00:29 |
ari-tczew | right | 00:29 |
neversfelde | I need a MOTU :) | 00:30 |
neversfelde | if you have time, would you review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kfritz | 00:30 |
* maco2 looks | 00:32 | |
maco2 | neversfelde: can i be picky about lack of commas in debian/control? | 00:35 |
maco2 | or ooooh maybe im reading it wrong and teh lack of commas is right | 00:35 |
maco2 | "new incoming or outgoing calls" is that "new incoming" or are "new" and "incoming" separate? | 00:36 |
* maco2 plays with uscan | 00:39 | |
ScottK | maco2: Yes. Please, be picky. | 00:40 |
maco2 | ScottK: i was reading wrong | 00:40 |
maco2 | ScottK: it occurred to me that "new, incoming, and outgoing" didnt make sense as a new call HAD to be either incoming or outgoing :P | 00:41 |
maco2 | so "new incoming and outgoing" (as neversfelde has) is just fine | 00:41 |
* ScottK nods | 00:41 | |
* maco2 growls at REVU | 00:42 | |
maco2 | it 403 forbiden'd me when i tried to wget the .changes | 00:42 |
* Tm_T huggles maco2 | 00:42 | |
maco2 | dangit. i cant debuild this on karmic because my debhelper's not new enough | 00:44 |
* maco2 shakes fist | 00:44 | |
maco2 | i dont see any reason why lucid's debhelper should make my machine explode... *tries to get it from packages.ubuntu.com* | 00:45 |
ScottK | maco2: That's a security feature. Log into your pbuilder, build the source there and then copy it out of the chroot | 00:45 |
maco2 | "feature"? | 00:45 |
maco2 | hrmph. | 00:46 |
crimsun | why are you wgetting the changes? does dget on the dsc suffice? | 00:46 |
ScottK | If .changes were available, anyone's who had upload priviledges could be grabbed and the package uploaded to Ubuntu. | 00:46 |
maco2 | ScottK: ah i thought you were saying the lack of debhelper on my system capable of building this was a feature | 00:47 |
ScottK | No. | 00:47 |
ScottK | Althought it's a pretty funny idea now that you mention it. | 00:48 |
maco2 | ok pbuilder is updating and then umm i didnt write down how crimsun told me to do the manual building inside pbuilder thing so im gonna need help. i think "clean" was the first thing... | 00:49 |
crimsun | when you login, it tells you the absolute path on the host | 00:49 |
crimsun | cp the source package there | 00:50 |
crimsun | then install build-deps as necessary and clean+binary | 00:50 |
crimsun | (there are easier ways) | 00:51 |
maco2 | O_O | 01:03 |
maco2 | aptitude crashed while installing build-deps | 01:03 |
maco2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/385417/ | 01:04 |
maco2 | crimsun, ScottK ^ ummm help? | 01:05 |
maco2 | hmm nevermind. apt/dpkg seem to be perfectly happy | 01:07 |
maco2 | crimsun: how do you do the clean+binary? cd into the package then debian/rules clean && debian/rules binary ? | 01:08 |
maco2 | neversfelde: umm... FFe?? | 02:03 |
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maco2 | neversfelde: do you have a FFe for that package? like, can i upload it without getting in trouble? | 02:56 |
maco2 | neversfelde: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess says you need a motu-release person to say "ok" before i upload that | 03:04 |
apachelogger | Quintasan|Szel: pong | 08:33 |
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Mamarok | hm, does Kubuntu patch Qt/make modifications to Qt? Apparently some Scribus people claim that... | 11:08 |
Tm_T | Mamarok: other than what is in kde-qt ? | 11:14 |
Mamarok | hm, does Kubuntu patch Qt/make modifications to Qt? Apparently some Scribus people claim that...well, there's a guy complaining that Scribus just doesn't work well in Ubuntu while it does in Debian | 11:27 |
Mamarok | and that the Scribus devs complaiend about that, too | 11:27 |
Mamarok | complained* | 11:27 |
Mamarok | and since Scribus uses Qt, not KDE, that would only be true if we modify Qt, or am I mistaken? | 11:28 |
ejat | Mamarok: what does that guy mean doesnt work well ? mine working well .. | 12:01 |
Mamarok | ejat: well, I am asking him to provide sources right now :) | 12:02 |
ejat | Mamarok: yeah .. u rite .. | 12:02 |
ejat | cant blame without any proof or sources .. | 12:03 |
apachelogger | Mamarok: the scrubs people always had that claim | 12:58 |
apachelogger | all the proof I ever saw was one rather bogus bug report | 12:58 |
apachelogger | hm, scribus to scrubs is also quite a jump | 12:59 |
apachelogger | Mamarok: we have a patch that fixes a bug where fglrx reports a 0 size screen | 13:06 |
apachelogger | Mamarok: we have a patch that prevents flickering when a window gets redrawn | 13:06 |
apachelogger | we do not build with firebird/ibase support | 13:06 |
apachelogger | we install a qtrc that sets the default style to plastique | 13:07 |
apachelogger | and that is everything that is different from debian | 13:07 |
Mamarok | apachelogger: thanks :) | 13:08 |
Mamarok | I asked him for sources about that claim anyway, so we will see | 13:09 |
apachelogger | Mamarok: FTR, scribus package is also exactly the same except for one patch that opens http help urls with a web browser | 13:10 |
Mamarok | which can't cause a crash I assume | 13:11 |
apachelogger | just looked at the code, not very likely ;) | 13:11 |
Mamarok | OK, thanks, we will see what he answers | 13:12 |
apachelogger | Mamarok: where did he complain? | 13:12 |
Mamarok | in the ubuntu-ch@ mailing list | 13:13 |
Mamarok | but I know the chap, he is fast to complain with mostly bogus sources | 13:13 |
apachelogger | mhh, love htat kind | 13:13 |
Mamarok | yeah, me too :) | 13:13 |
Mamarok | the worst is that he thinks he is an expert... which can be torn to pieces in just one or two seconds | 13:14 |
neversfelde | maco2: thanks for reviewing and sorry my network connection was down. I will file the ffe today. | 14:36 |
JontheEchidna | hrm, I can't seem to dput to ninjas... | 14:41 |
JontheEchidna | "Connection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused" | 14:41 |
JontheEchidna | but as you can see by your reading of my message, I do, in fact, have a working internet connection | 14:42 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: I suppose there is some kind of debug mode for dput? | 15:27 |
* apachelogger is going back to graz today \\o/ | 15:28 | |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: dunno | 15:28 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: --help :P | 15:28 |
JontheEchidna | I can upload to the ubuntu archive, just not any ppas | 15:28 |
apachelogger | maybe that part of lp is in maintenance | 15:29 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: I'd go check with people in #launchpad | 15:29 |
JontheEchidna | huh, works now | 15:29 |
apachelogger | ah | 15:29 |
apachelogger | PEBKAC :P | 15:29 |
JontheEchidna | hmm, I just saw this in debian/rules for kde-l10n-es: | 15:29 |
JontheEchidna | #take translations from stable branch to match our KDE 4.3 version | 15:29 |
JontheEchidna | SVNREV={2009-11-01} | 15:29 |
JontheEchidna | and that var is used in the fetching of desktop translations later on | 15:30 |
JontheEchidna | bad thing, right? | 15:30 |
apachelogger | -.- | 15:31 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: should be bumped | 15:31 |
apachelogger | I suppose | 15:31 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: coincidentally, could you sponsor kde-l10n-si from https://launchpad.net/~echidnaman/+archive/ppa ? | 15:35 |
JontheEchidna | it's not been updated since 4.2.98 -.- | 15:35 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: if you could take a look at bug 528322, that'd be great. (These removals should be non-controvesial) | 15:36 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 528322 in kde-l10n-sr-latin "package kde-l10n-sr-latin (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/sr@latin/entry.desktop', which is also in package kde-l10n-sr 4:4.3.2-0ubuntu1 (dup-of: 451679)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528322 | 15:36 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 451679 in kde-l10n-sr-latin "package kde-l10n-sr-latin (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/sr@latin/entry.desktop', which is also in package kde-l10n-sr 4:4.3.2-0ubuntu1" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/451679 | 15:36 |
JontheEchidna | oops | 15:36 |
JontheEchidna | bug 529488 | 15:36 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 529488 in kde-l10n-uz-cyrillic "Request for removal from archive (source and binary)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529488 | 15:36 |
JontheEchidna | Here's a list of "no longer distributed upstream" packages that are uselessly sitting around in the archive and failing to pass rebuild tests: http://pastebin.com/h7LVdmzn | 15:37 |
JontheEchidna | Should be ok to remove those too since they've in theory already been rosetta imported | 15:37 |
* apachelogger needs to revive batl10n | 15:46 | |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: did you ensure it is in 100% sync with the other kde-l10n packages? | 15:47 |
apachelogger | differences would make batch processing difficult | 15:47 |
JontheEchidna | I did bump the standards version, before noticing that everything else is at 3.8.0 :S | 15:47 |
apachelogger | omg! | 15:48 |
apachelogger | how could you | 15:48 |
apachelogger | :( | 15:48 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: rules is also not in sync | 15:50 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: the get-desktop part? | 15:51 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: also using source format 3.0 | 15:51 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: just diff your packaging with kde-l10n-fr | 15:51 |
apachelogger | or de or something | 15:51 |
JontheEchidna | hrm, kde-l10n-es doesn't seem to be using source format 3.0 | 15:51 |
JontheEchidna | they're all out of sync :( | 15:51 |
apachelogger | cool | 15:51 |
JontheEchidna | -de isn't using source format 3.0 neither | 15:51 |
* apachelogger also notes that kde-l10n-de for some reason includes a patch | 15:51 | |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: changelog says so | 15:51 |
apachelogger | + * Use source format 3.0 to preserve upstream .bz2 | 15:51 |
JontheEchidna | changelog lies | 15:52 |
ryanakca | ... do we really need x11-apps on the CD? kubuntu-desktop depends on xorg which depends on x11-apps | 15:52 |
apachelogger | xorg probably depends on them for a reason | 15:52 |
JontheEchidna | jonathan@jonathan-laptop:~/ubuntu/kde-l10n/kde-l10n-de/kde-l10n-de-4.4.0$ ls debian/source/format | 15:52 |
apachelogger | of much greater concern is if we need gst :P | 15:52 |
JontheEchidna | ls: cannot access debian/source/format: No such file or directory | 15:52 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: well, it got a patch from debian which is even weirderior | 15:53 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: when you convert to source format 3.0, all packaging changes get changed to a quilt patch | 15:53 |
JontheEchidna | *all source changes get changed to a quilt patch | 15:53 |
apachelogger | not mentioned in the changelog at all from what I see | 15:53 |
apachelogger | oh | 15:54 |
apachelogger | that is a) cool b) weird in that particular case | 15:54 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: do you want to look into syncing the packages? | 15:54 |
JontheEchidna | all of them? :( | 15:54 |
apachelogger | otherwise I'll do that when I am home | 15:54 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: of course :P | 15:54 |
JontheEchidna | maybe if I was paid to do so... :P | 15:55 |
apachelogger | well | 15:55 |
apachelogger | hack batl10n :P | 15:55 |
JontheEchidna | I'm a ruby nooby | 15:55 |
apachelogger | right, you only speak cpp and foobar | 15:55 |
apachelogger | err python | 15:55 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: in that case I shall look at it when I am home or something | 15:56 |
JontheEchidna | thx | 15:56 |
coucouf | hi there, couldn't find upgrade instructions to Lucid on kubuntu.org | 15:56 |
ryanakca | apachelogger: but they're so useless in a KDE environment, see the list in the long description... xlogo, xclock, xcalc, xeyes, xbiff, the list goes on. | 15:56 |
* ryanakca goes to find out why Xorg needs them | 15:56 | |
apachelogger | ryanakca: #ubuntu-x | 15:56 |
coucouf | I ended up using update-notifier-kde -u -d but not being sure it was the-right-way™ | 15:56 |
ryanakca | apachelogger: Already there :) | 15:57 |
apachelogger | if they are not needed by the content of xorg package, then they shouldnt be deps to begin with | 15:57 |
apachelogger | that is a policy violation :P | 15:57 |
coucouf | maybe the official upgrade method could be advertised a bit more ? | 15:57 |
* apachelogger is getting all bitchy if peopel violate the policy | 15:57 | |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: the xorg package is a metapackage, which means maybe something down the line is fscked | 15:57 |
apachelogger | coucouf: so that more people can break their system? :P | 15:57 |
coucouf | it's written everywhere « don't test this » already :) | 15:58 |
apachelogger | coucouf: it's difficult to not "over document" such things, as upgrading to a dev release is about the most dangeroust things to do | 15:58 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna, ryanakca: checking germinate | 15:59 |
coucouf | ok, I see the point. and I found my answer in the end so all is good I guess | 15:59 |
apachelogger | coucouf: well, IMHO we need to document upgrade testing, but for that we need a clear path, because update-notifier-kde does not even exist in lucid+ | 16:00 |
coucouf | what suprises me is that the Ubuntu upgrade method update-manager -d is documented in many places | 16:00 |
coucouf | apachelogger: Is there a replacement intended ? or just using update-manager-core the server way ? | 16:01 |
apachelogger | !info xorg | 16:01 |
ubottu | xorg (source: xorg): X.Org X Window System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.4+3ubuntu10 (karmic), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB | 16:02 |
apachelogger | coucouf: do-release-upgrade I think | 16:02 |
apachelogger | regular upgrades are handled via packagekit | 16:02 |
apachelogger | which will then call do-release-upgrade, so I suppose the proceeding for upgrades in lucid+ to a dev release is do-release-upgrade -d | 16:03 |
apachelogger | ryanakca: aye | 16:03 |
apachelogger | ryanakca: so | 16:03 |
apachelogger | ryanakca: as JontheEchidna stated, xorg is a metapackage hence it must indeed depend on x11-tools | 16:03 |
apachelogger | ryanakca: what needs to happen is that the desktop-common seed must be changed to not depend on xorg but the individual packages that are necessary | 16:04 |
apachelogger | which might be difficult to get through because as it seems that would cause quite the mainteinance overhead | 16:04 |
ryanakca | apachelogger: OK. So how do I do that? | 16:04 |
ryanakca | Ah | 16:04 |
apachelogger | ryanakca: I suggest you bring the topic up on ubuntu-devel ml and let them work out some solution ;) | 16:04 |
* apachelogger must do packing | 16:05 | |
apachelogger | oh my | 16:05 |
ryanakca | apachelogger: How big is the *buntu userbase? Would the bandwidth used to download that measly package, simply because it's installed by default, be of concern to anybody? | 16:05 |
ryanakca | Assuming it's 4 million users, each one of them downloads it once, 312GB of bandwidth used that doesn't need to be :) | 16:06 |
seaLne | on kubuntu.org is the kubuntu logo over the menu bar for anyone else in konq 4.4.0? | 16:09 |
seaLne | seems to be font size issue | 16:10 |
ryanakca | seaLne: Fine here, feel free to file a bug against the kubuntu-website project and attach a screenshot though | 16:16 |
shtylman | I can't install kdevelop | 16:16 |
shtylman | ;( | 16:16 |
JontheEchidna | shtylman: If you want a stable IDE, don't use kdevelop ;P | 16:20 |
JontheEchidna | shtylman: it was removed from the archive since they won't have a stable release before lucid | 16:21 |
ScottK | maco: You have a wacom tablet, right? | 16:25 |
ScottK | Is it working in 10.04? | 16:25 |
shtylman | JontheEchidna: ;( but its an amazing ide ... | 16:35 |
shtylman | tear | 16:35 |
shtylman | ive been using it for a while | 16:35 |
shtylman | I guess I have to package it myself now... | 16:36 |
JontheEchidna | shtylman: oh, riddell did throw packages at https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/beta?field.series_filter=lucid | 16:36 |
shtylman | oooo | 16:37 |
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DarkwingDuck | Wow, I'm missing something that I'm sure is painfully obvious.... | 17:02 |
DarkwingDuck | I am not finding the tablet control on lspci or lsusb.... | 17:03 |
DarkwingDuck | where else would I look to find it? | 17:03 |
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shadeslayer | wth! | 17:04 |
shadeslayer | how is that i changed the topic? | 17:04 |
=== shadeslayer changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Alpha 3 released! | Feature Freeze, fix bugs | Kubuntu has the Doctor on the brain | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | milestoned bugs marked as kubuntu http://tinyurl.com/yjybcx9 | ||
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=== ikonia changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: The channels topic will be reset-asap | ||
Tm_T | nownow | 17:09 |
=== JontheEchidna changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Alpha 3 released! | Feature Freeze, fix bugs | Kubuntu has the Doctor on the brain | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | milestoned bugs marked as kubuntu http://tinyurl.com/yjybcx9 | ||
shadeslayer | Tm_T: :P | 17:10 |
Tm_T | it's meant to be open, btw | 17:10 |
shadeslayer | Tm_T: changing the topic? | 17:11 |
Tm_T | so nothing to be "fixed" in it (: | 17:11 |
Tm_T | yes | 17:11 |
shadeslayer | Tm_T: i dont know.. i think only chan ops should have that privilige | 17:11 |
Tm_T | shadeslayer: it depends on channel mode(s) | 17:11 |
seaLne | ryanakca: looks like its not just me https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website/+bug/379213 seems the same issue with the website | 17:13 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 379213 in kubuntu-website "Kubuntu logo overlaps links at top of page" [Medium,Confirmed] | 17:13 |
shadeslayer | seaLne: confirmed here too! | 17:15 |
Tm_T | in where exactly? | 17:16 |
shadeslayer | Tm_T: open kubuntu.org with konqueror | 17:17 |
Tm_T | and? | 17:17 |
shadeslayer | Tm_T: and then check top left corner | 17:18 |
shadeslayer | Tm_T: http://imagebin.ca/view/eWEKrJ.html | 17:18 |
shadeslayer | u overlaps Home | 17:19 |
Tm_T | I have cap almost as wide as the logo pic | 17:19 |
Tm_T | but I have way smaller font size too | 17:19 |
shadeslayer | Hmmmm im on default everything ;) | 17:19 |
seaLne | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39885472/kubuntuheader.png | 17:20 |
Tm_T | I'm in, err, default nothing? | 17:21 |
jussi01 | that looks fun | 17:21 |
seaLne | its even worse for me | 17:21 |
shadeslayer | hehe... well its not _that_ bad here :P | 17:21 |
jussi01 | mine is fine | 17:21 |
shadeslayer | jussi01: in konqueror? | 17:21 |
jussi01 | what resolution screens do you all have? | 17:21 |
jussi01 | shadeslayer: yes | 17:21 |
seaLne | 1366 | 17:21 |
shadeslayer | jussi01: 1440X900 | 17:21 |
jussi01 | 1920... | 17:21 |
Tm_T | http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/konq_4.png | 17:22 |
Tm_T | notice the funkyness in overall, it doesn't have those round corners | 17:22 |
shadeslayer | Tm_T: you seriously need a better plasma theme ;) | 17:22 |
Tm_T | shadeslayer: why? | 17:23 |
shadeslayer | black is out of fashion :P | 17:23 |
seaLne | ryanakca: so looks like kubuntu.org requires a really big monitor to view ... | 17:23 |
shadeslayer | :D | 17:23 |
Tm_T | shadeslayer: I don't have black other than in centerpiece of analog clock | 17:23 |
Tm_T | seaLne: erm, small font, that's all | 17:24 |
shadeslayer | ohh.... | 17:24 |
shadeslayer | Tm_T: what about the colors? | 17:24 |
Tm_T | what colors? | 17:24 |
seaLne | system load? | 17:24 |
shadeslayer | Tm_T: the color of the windows | 17:24 |
* shadeslayer starts Heroes Season 1 | 17:25 | |
Tm_T | shadeslayer: it's not black | 17:25 |
seaLne | Tm_T: can you shrink your konq window to see if it overlaps? | 17:25 |
Tm_T | seaLne: looks good here when browser is less than 800 px wide, so definately font size issue | 17:25 |
shadeslayer | really? | 17:26 |
seaLne | weird | 17:26 |
seaLne | dpi? | 17:26 |
Tm_T | the normal ~100 | 17:26 |
Tm_T | but I have font sizes 6-8 | 17:26 |
jussi01 | ahh, when you shrink the window... | 17:26 |
jussi01 | yes, happens here also | 17:26 |
Tm_T | ~770 px wide browser is narrowest having bit of gap too | 17:27 |
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Tm_T | sooo, it needs some love to make sure no matter what, there's no overlapping | 17:28 |
jussi01 | http://imagebin.ca/view/mY3XbJ6k.html | 17:29 |
Tm_T | shadeslayer: and yeah, #363535 is not black (: | 17:30 |
ScottK | shadeslayer: Our experience in this channel is that topic changes are rarely abused and so locking down the topic would just make more work for people. | 17:31 |
Tm_T | yup | 17:31 |
Tm_T | it's easier to deal with very rare abusers than hunting down ops when topic needs updating | 17:32 |
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shadeslayer | Tm_T: :P | 17:35 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: ok well i didnt know that the topic could be changed and i wanted to find out the topic for #ubuntu-arm,so i accidently changed the topic ;) | 17:36 |
shadeslayer | Also as you said,no one abuses the topic,i didnt know that too :P | 17:36 |
DarkwingDuck | maco2: ping | 17:38 |
DarkwingDuck | Hey jjesse | 17:39 |
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* PascalFr_parti est parti: Parti pour l'instant. | 17:40 | |
Tm_T | !away > PascalFr_parti | 17:40 |
ubottu | PascalFr_parti, please see my private message | 17:40 |
ryanakca | Tm_T: Do you have JS disabled in konqueror? | 17:43 |
Tm_T | ryanakca: no I do not | 17:44 |
Tm_T | it works with webkit, dunno what's wrong with khtml today | 17:44 |
Tm_T | joys of trunk (; | 17:44 |
Tm_T | ryanakca: CSS-based rounded borders isn't an option? | 17:45 |
jjesse | hey DarkwingDuck | 18:07 |
DarkwingDuck | jjesse: hows life? I'm actually back then moving then I'll be in for the long haul lol | 18:08 |
DarkwingDuck | arg this is giving a headache. | 18:13 |
jjesse | DarkwingDuck: good way busy | 18:15 |
DarkwingDuck | Yeah... what wacom tablet for my tabletPC isn't wanting to work in 10.04A but, it works out of the box in 9.10 | 18:20 |
Lex79 | JontheEchidna: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.pim/26995 | 19:03 |
Lex79 | do you know if we have problems to build kmymoney? | 19:04 |
JontheEchidna | KMyMoney stopped using libkleo the next prerelease | 19:04 |
JontheEchidna | (it only affects kde4 kmymoney) | 19:04 |
JontheEchidna | We're fine, aside from kopete-crypto | 19:05 |
Lex79 | ok | 19:05 |
Quintasan | Lex79: urgh, sorry for throwing stuff at you, do you mind doing kdebase? Seems I've broken my system badly and damn thing won't build and I have to got to bed already :( | 19:16 |
Lex79 | no problem Quintasan, I'm really busy with kdepim and kopete-crypto for now, but me or JontheEchidna can do later | 19:17 |
Quintasan | Lex79: thanks, I hope I will get it fixed tomorrow | 19:18 |
Quintasan | Good night anyways | 19:18 |
Lex79 | Quintasan: good night :) | 19:18 |
maco2 | ScottK: i have one, but i'm still on 9.10 and shtylman_ warned me that my preferred window manager is currently not installable on 10.04 | 19:19 |
DarkwingDuck | maco2: Your a wacom user right? | 19:33 |
maco2 | DarkwingDuck: yes, but not using lucid yet | 19:35 |
Lex79 | omg, kdepim-dev and kopete-crypto fixed \o/ | 19:56 |
Tm_T | waaiiiiiii! | 19:57 |
* Tm_T hides | 19:57 | |
ejat | Lex79: kudos .. | 20:01 |
Lex79 | :) | 20:01 |
DarkwingDuck | maco2 okay, I'm upgrading my tabletPC to Lucid and it uses Wacom. I'll let you know about getting it to work when I get there. | 20:06 |
_Groo_ | hi/2 all | 20:40 |
_Groo_ | can anyone tell me if sun-java6 was pulled out of lucid? | 20:40 |
Lex79 | Riddell: mono needs a kick out from NEW to building kdebindings https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mono/2.4.4~svn151842-1ubuntu2 | 20:49 |
Tm_T | Lex79: you might like to poke someone else, as he's been AFK | 20:50 |
Lex79 | I already say in #ubuntu-devel, but there are no archive admin around | 20:52 |
nixternal | is anyone available on Friday, March 5th, from 17:00 to 18:00 UTC to give a talk for Opportunistic Developer Week on "Creating a PyKDE app"? I am scheduled to do it, but my aunt passed away the other day and I will not be able to do it? | 21:15 |
* Tm_T hugs nixternal | 21:16 | |
* seele doesn't know what opportunistic developer even means | 21:16 | |
nixternal | thanks | 21:16 |
seele | nixternal: sorry to hear that | 21:16 |
nixternal | thanks | 21:18 |
crimsun | _Groo_: yes, it was. | 21:37 |
* apachelogger hugs nixternal | 21:38 | |
_Groo_ | i just found out of a workaround to allow icedtea to work with chromium | 21:39 |
* neversfelde too | 21:39 | |
apachelogger | more interesting would be icedtea in konqueror -.- | 21:39 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: might work too | 21:40 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: altought konqueror calls java directly , he doesnt uses the NSPLUGIN | 21:40 |
apachelogger | doubtable, my most recent theory was that there is a problem with javascript, disallowing the liveconnect stuff to work properly | 21:40 |
apachelogger | _Groo_: must use the plugin for liveconnect magic IIRC | 21:40 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: agreed, it implemented in icedtea 1.7 | 21:41 |
apachelogger | more interesting question, will the intel driver ever support acceleration with dual head | 21:41 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: well this way at least its working for chromium , can even run applet demos lol... | 21:46 |
_Groo_ | not that i bumped into one in ages | 21:46 |
apachelogger | well | 21:46 |
apachelogger | http://people.canonical.com/~doko/java/ColorBlockApplet.html | 21:47 |
apachelogger | meh, no jonny when you need him -.- | 21:48 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: yes it works, i can paint the box inside chromium :) | 21:49 |
_Groo_ | IcedTea NPR Web Browser Plugin (using IcedTea6 1.8pre (6b18~pre1-1ubuntu1)) | 21:49 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: but only if i use my method, which is pretty simple | 21:50 |
apachelogger | simple is boring | 21:51 |
* apachelogger starts kontact and syncs 5 imap accounts and like 30 news groups ^^ | 21:51 | |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: java is working just fine inside konqueror too with openjdk | 21:52 |
apachelogger | _Groo_: that example too? | 21:52 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: let me check | 21:53 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: no, not the example :D funny thing it works in chromium, go figure | 21:54 |
* _Groo_ is testing firefox 3.6 now | 21:54 | |
apachelogger | well, I think it is because of the javascript | 21:54 |
apachelogger | I think I was trying to debug the problem but ran into problems with the javascript interpreter | 21:55 |
_Groo_ | javascript aka ecma script /= java... | 21:55 |
_Groo_ | if the only code in the above url is javascript it has nothing to do with what im testing | 21:55 |
_Groo_ | or trying to test :P | 21:55 |
apachelogger | _Groo_: liveconnect uses javascript | 21:55 |
apachelogger | or at least that is how it was explained to me :P | 21:55 |
apachelogger | maybe someone was lying to me | 21:56 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: works fine with firefox 3.6 too | 21:56 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: let me try to FORCE my "solution" to konqueror.. see what comes out | 21:56 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: ok, its working just fine now | 22:01 |
_Groo_ | with konqueror and the aforemetinoed url | 22:01 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: killall -9 konqueror, go to settings, enable both kio AND security... be happy | 22:02 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: for some stupid reason, kio is disabled by default in kubuntu, and you need it in order to enforce th security model | 22:02 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: so now i have java in all 3 main browser, nice :) | 22:02 |
apachelogger | _Groo_: I seem to remember that there is a reason for not using KIO | 22:02 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: yeah, the reason is that you dont use java lol | 22:03 |
apachelogger | nono, I actually made it work in konqueror to begin with :P | 22:03 |
apachelogger | _Groo_: do we enforce that KIO-off or does it come from upstream? | 22:03 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: prob upstream | 22:04 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: if im not mistaken, is one of those forgotten settings.. kio was off in kde 3, because the security model was kinda broken iwht kio 3 , BUT 4 was rewritten | 22:05 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: ence safe again to be used, but aparently no one ever remembered to change the jio back to on... | 22:05 |
_Groo_ | kio | 22:05 |
apachelogger | _Groo_: go poke upstream then | 22:05 |
apachelogger | I am not going to rip a securiyt breach into konqueror just so that the ubuntu and kde security teams can beat me up :P | 22:06 |
apachelogger | oh lol | 22:07 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: you just remembered me of that little furry big eyes little fella from madagascar | 22:07 |
apachelogger | _Groo_: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/290707/comments/2 | 22:07 |
neversfelde | there is probably a problem with a not starting kontact because of akonadi for our karmic packages, does someone know more about it? | 22:07 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 290707 in kdebase "konqueror: LiveConnect/JavaScript not working (IcedTeaPlugin not recognized)" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 22:07 |
apachelogger | neversfelde: mysql is crap, akonadi uses mysql, akonadi inherits crappyness :P | 22:07 |
neversfelde | :) | 22:10 |
_Groo_ | apachelogger: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/kdebase/+bug/290707/comments/5 | 22:11 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 290707 in kdebase "konqueror: LiveConnect/JavaScript not working (IcedTeaPlugin not recognized)" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 22:11 |
_Groo_ | also, in order for chromium to work with icedtea 1.6, just trick icedtead into thinking its being loaded from firefox | 22:12 |
apachelogger | _Groo_: redundancy is the key to world domination ^^ | 22:12 |
_Groo_ | just do LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.1.8/ /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser --enable-plugins | 22:12 |
_Groo_ | and then just add the path to the chromium-browser script in /usr/bin.. | 22:13 |
_Groo_ | works like a charm :) | 22:13 |
apachelogger | fancy | 22:15 |
Lex79 | uhmm ktorrent ftbs http://pastebin.ca/1816186 | 23:23 |
_Groo_ | Lex79: just change this | 23:25 |
_Groo_ | Lex79: let me see the ktorrent patch, just a sec | 23:26 |
_Groo_ | plugins/mediaplayer/videowidget.h | 23:26 |
_Groo_ | change #include <Phonon/VideoWidget> to #include <phonon/videowidget.h> | 23:27 |
_Groo_ | Lex79: should compile and work afterwards | 23:27 |
Lex79 | thanks, I will try | 23:29 |
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