[02:00] yep i appear to not agree with cipro, i feel 100% today :) [02:35] ccheney: allergic reaction? [16:03] pitti - i've just uploaded the latest gnome-user-share to the ubuntu-desktop PPA. It adds a new Nautilus extension, so it would be great if you could test the impact of this on login speed before we decide whether to upload it for Lucid [16:12] chrisccoulson: can you upload bug 529318? pretty nasty one ;) [16:12] Launchpad bug 529318 in transmission "Removing transmission-daemon breaks dpkg" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529318 [16:13] kklimonda, yeah, will take a look at that once i get back [16:13] ok, thanks [16:13] (i'm just about to leave the house for the first time today) ;) [16:13] well, if it's good or bad depends on where do you live? ;) [16:14] maybe it's only 7AM in your TZ or maybe it's already 5PM like here.. === Richie is now known as WelshDragon === qense is now known as sense === sense is now known as Sense === Sense is now known as sense === sense is now known as qense [21:32] when i click on "computer", all of my system devices except for "filesystem" has disappeared. when i click on disk utility, they show up there :S it has been a problem since whenever i plug in a usb, it does not show up on my desktop or nautilus, and i have to go through disk utility to access it. anyone have any ideas?? :( [21:34] Are there any changes proposed for the login sound-config in lucid, any possibility of python-gdm2setup by default? [21:42] no system devices (partitions, usb, cd/dvd drive) are showing in my nautilus, but they show in disk utility, any fix? [22:00] robert_ancell: Good morning! [22:01] RAOF, hey! [22:03] heya RAOF [22:03] bryceh: Good morning :) [22:05] when i click on "computer", all of my system devices except for "filesystem" has disappeared. when i click on disk utility, they show up there :S it has been a problem since whenever i plug in a usb, it does not show up on my desktop or nautilus, and i have to go through disk utility to access it. anyone have any ideas?? :( [22:07] hamza, ask in #ubuntu [22:08] Morning robert_ancell, RAOF. [22:08] TheMuso, good morning [22:09] TheMuso: Good morning. [22:09] * TheMuso breathes in the cool fresh air and looks forward to the cooler weather. [22:29] Are there any changes proposed for the login sound-config in lucid, any possibility of python-gdm2setup by default? [22:30] arand: What do you mean by login sound config? [22:32] 437429 [22:34] oops... bug #437429 pretty much, (I was planning on trying to answer the last comment, would the answer be "none, use gdm2setup from ppa if you need it"?) [22:34] Launchpad bug 437429 in ubuntu-sounds "No GUI to configure/disable login sound" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/437429 [22:35] Right its a gdm related issue then. [22:36] TheMuso: Not -desktop you mean? [22:36] arand: Its to do with the desktop, but its something that has to bexposed by gdm configuration somehow. [22:39] TheMuso: Since it being a rather common annoyance, and A fix being available in the python-gdm2setup I was wondering if any discussions had been made to make it more accesible than as of now when it's simpla in PPA? [22:41] arand: I don't know whats going on there, I am not involved with that part of Ubuntu development. [22:43] RAOF, hi [22:43] rickspencer3: Good morning/evening! [22:43] robert_ancell, TheMuso do you guys know RAOF? [22:44] arand: if there is a fix in the PPA, and the fix looks suitable, I suggest you prepare it for ubuntu and submit it to the sponsorship queue [22:44] RAOF, this is your first day, right? [22:44] rickspencer3: It is indeed. [22:44] welcome!! [22:44] RAOF: did we hire you ? [22:44] rickspencer3: yes [22:44] lifeless: You did indeed. [22:44] RAOF: \o/ [22:44] :) [22:44] about time [22:44] RAOF, and you are in Sydney, right? [22:44] rickspencer3, sure do [22:44] RAOF: Congrats and welcome! [22:44] rickspencer3: Yes. [22:44] RAOF: OTOH it makes it even harder to have an ubuntu-motu get together that has community folk in sydney ;) [22:45] lifeless: :) [22:45] we have quite the Sydney contingent, as well as quite the contigent of people named "Chris" irl [22:45] lifeless: Even harder when I move to Hobart! [22:45] :) [22:45] Getting as bad as the steves. [22:45] RAOF: I'm moving to nz :P [22:45] lol [22:46] don't forget the matts [22:46] I have the advantage of having an unusual surname. I confuse computer systems with great reliability :) [22:46] hehe [22:46] RAOF, try being the "third" [22:47] robert_ancell, TheMuso may I suggest RAOF ask you if they have any questions about this crazy job? [22:47] sure can [22:47] was rickspencer1 taken? So you're the forth ? [22:47] rickspencer3: sure [22:48] lifeless, no [22:48] not quite [22:48] RAOF: you can ask me too; if you feel the need :> [22:48] lifeless: Well, it's a separate application, and I'm not quite sure what the developer's plan is really: https://edge.launchpad.net/gdm2setup It not being finished with all features is anoter thing I guess.. I was wondering if I should give it a mention on this blueprint?:https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-gdmsetup [22:48] the deal is that my grandpa was the first Richard Spencer, then my dad, then me, then my boy [22:48] rickspencer3: ah [22:49] arand: getting a discussion going is key; things that are not discussed generally don't happen. (necessay, but not a sufficient condition) [22:50] robert_ancell: I saw you've been drafting that blueprint, have you had a look at python-gdm2setup? [22:50] arand, we are past Alpha 3 and Feature Freeze ... [22:50] * TheMuso still doesn't understand the whole "name" -> "name jr" -> "name jr/3rd etc" [22:50] Where si the originality in that? :) [22:51] as the engineering manager I am trying to get folks to STOP ADDING features [22:51] :) [22:51] s/si/is/ [22:51] arand, gdm2setup will not become the default but we encourage adding it to universe so it is easily installable [22:53] robert_ancell, arand is there anything we can do to help the gdm2setup team get there code into universe? [22:57] welp, hopefully those were the last two userspace alsa uploads for Lucid. [22:58] robert_ancell, TheMuso, RAOF fyi, I am based in Florida this week, which will slide my schedule back a bit ... [22:59] making it a bit harder for us to stay in sync this week [22:59] crimsun: Thanks dude. You've always been one step ahead of me. As soon as I start chacing up fixes, you've got them in before I even get to test build. :) [22:59] crimsun, are you saying that you think pulse audio bits are finished for Lucid? [22:59] rickspencer3, nice location :) [22:59] robert_ancell, yeah, visiting my folks [22:59] rickspencer3: PA should be fairly close, but no, I'm referring to the userspace alsa portion only. [22:59] ah [23:00] still, that's significant [23:00] congrats TheMuso and crimsun [23:00] TheMuso: You were looking into doing a ports version of linux-backports-modules-nouveau (specificly PPC), weren't you? How's that going, if at all? [23:01] RAOF: Haven't got to it. Its actually not that difficult to do, just some packaging work, but I need to test build and test the packages proper on ppc hardware. [23:02] RAOF: Hopefully I can get to it tonight. [23:03] RAOF, robert_ancell how would you guys feel about doing Eastern Edition at 8am your time on Wednesday just this one week? [23:03] Ok. Give me a ping if you need any help there; I'd prefer it for nouveau to not regress for PPC users. [23:03] TheMuso has an appointment that can't be moved [23:03] rickspencer3, can do [23:03] rickspencer3: I'm fine with that. [23:03] great! [23:03] Thanks guys. [23:04] RAOF, do you know what the Eastern Edition is? [23:04] RAOF: ok thanks. [23:05] it;s a recap of our weekly team meeting, timed to not be at a gawd awful hour for our friends in Syndey [23:05] rickspencer3: I believe it's where all the crazy future Canonical guys call up & report status? [23:05] lol [23:05] * RAOF likes to think of Sydney as in the future. [23:05] RAOF, right [23:05] well, I also push information and we have discussions [23:06] we are very meeting light [23:06] "I remember the future, like it was only yesterday..." [23:06] it's pretty much the only meeting that we have [23:06] TheMuso, lol [23:06] rickspencer3: Actually thats a line of lyrics from a song. [23:06] I got a painting for my office in the weekend: http://imagebin.ca/view/vUjSJUR.html [23:07] robert_ancell, nice [23:08] robert_ancell, I bet simple scan works pretty darn well on the scanner there [23:08] rickspencer3, best supported model! [23:08] lol [23:09] shame it's an awful printer [23:09] robert_ancell, they'll probably see an uptick of their sales in May, be like wtf? [23:10] robert_ancell: I notice that's an HP? I'm in the market for a printer/scanner/etc thingy; got any recommendations? [23:14] RAOF, HP seems the best supported in general, don't buy the cheap one like I did - it paper jams all the time. So I'd expect $200 is about the sweet spot for a multi-function [23:14] RAOF, (which of course you can claim as a work expense at tax time) [23:14] robert_ancell: IRght. [23:15] is there an IWrong? [23:15] * TheMuso already had a flatbed scanner, which is more portable than any multi-function device, so I invested in a mono lazer printer. Best printer investment ever. [23:15] TheMuso, how much for a laser? What are the running costs like? [23:15] lifeless: No, but there's an IWong [23:15] robert_ancell: $200 for the printer with network capability. Don't know about running costs yet, only ad it for a few months, and since I do very little printing, the toner is likely to last me quite a while. [23:15] * RAOF 's brother got a $90 laser two years ago or somesuch; hasn't had to replace the toner yet. [23:16] RAOF, I've had one since 2001 and still haven't replaced the toner [23:16] Thats also why I got a lazer. The toner won't dry up if left for a while. [23:16] I'm thinking of getting a new printer, so a laser might be a good investment [23:20] robert_ancell, thanks for your great contributions to the Featured Applications blueprint [23:20] you sir, are awesome [23:21] rickspencer3, oh, I installed them all in the weekend and I've got a writeup I'm going to send to the desktop mailing list [23:21] wow! [23:21] * rickspencer3 bugs eyes [23:21] I have a menu full of apps :) [23:21] so basically, it will "Robert's Featured Apps" [23:21] we could do worse :) [23:22] lol [23:22] the wiki page is open for additions :) [23:42] robert_ancell: Okay to just edit away with some additions to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Lucid/FeaturedApps ?? [23:42] arand, yes, of course! [23:51] surprised neverball and openarena aren't on the games list :) [23:59] Sarvatt, add them!