| hyperair | andreasn_: yes, i'm the maintainer of that PPA. | 00:05 |
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| hyperair | andreasn_: the 1.5.4 really 1.5.3 means it's really 1.5.3, but the version needed to be bumped due to an accidental upload of the wrong package. | 00:05 |
| hyperair | andreasn_: i accidentally uploaded something meant for the daily PPA (a daily snapshot) to the banshee-team ppa instead. | 00:06 |
| nenolod | zul: you here? | 00:12 |
| andreasn_ | hyperair, ah, I see. Thanks for the explanation | 00:35 |
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| StevenK | lifeless: How about prodding me to sync it when it's actually hit dinstall? :-) | 05:04 |
| lifeless | StevenK: hey, rmadison shows it in debian :) | 05:23 |
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| shawnboy | Can someone clear up my confusion about C/C++ and OO? | 07:27 |
| shawnboy | obj-oriented? | 07:31 |
| shawnboy | nobody talkative tonight. | 07:33 |
| persia | shawnboy: What are you trying to have answered? | 07:35 |
| shawnboy | persia, I've read conflicting things about whether C fully supports OO. I want to learn either C or C++. For some reason I lean toward C, but I do want to learn OO. | 07:36 |
| shawnboy | some say no, some say yes it can technically but why would u, and other say sure it can fully do OO | 07:36 |
| persia | Both languages allow various styles of programming (both OO and not, as well as other orientations). This is not a good forum to ask such questions: they will be ignored unless someone happens to be bored and there is no other traffic. | 07:38 |
| persia | Unfortunately, I have no suggestions as to what would be an appropriate forum to get more information about these topics. | 07:38 |
| shawnboy | i knew this maybe isn't the perfect forum, but hoped that people doing actual devel on Linux would be good group to ask. | 07:38 |
| shawnboy | i tried ##programming but that channel isn't working for me for some reason, and that's only other one I knew of. | 07:39 |
| shawnboy | U have no opinion one way or another on the matter? | 07:39 |
| persia | None whatsoever. | 07:40 |
| micahg | shawnboy: there seems to be a ##c++-basic channel | 07:40 |
| shawnboy | micahg, ok. I can try that one. Isn't this for linux developers? Isn't straight C used for linux? | 07:40 |
| micahg | shawnboy: this channel is for Ubuntu development specifically | 07:41 |
| shawnboy | micahg, ok. so if I want linux developers opinions on my question... I'm out of luck? | 07:42 |
| hile | absolutely. | 07:42 |
| shawnboy | hile, ok. seems odd... but... ok. | 07:43 |
| micahg | shawnboy: this isn't a linux development channel (Ubuntu has a separate kernel channel), also stuff for ubuntu is probably written in a dozen languages | 07:44 |
| persia | Many more than a dozen. | 07:44 |
| persia | And it contains examples of many, many, many different programming paradigms in each language. | 07:45 |
| hile | most certainly this is not any kind of programming discussion channel. | 07:45 |
| shawnboy | hmmm. well, I learned something then. I didn't know that. I'll give another place a try. thanks for at least responding. | 07:47 |
| persia | shawnboy: Good luck in your search. | 07:48 |
| shawnboy | persia, thank you. g'night all. | 07:51 |
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| chrisccoulson | sladen - i'm not sure why you ended up with epiphany-browser installed, but gnome-panel and gnumeric don't pull them in (they only suggest epiphany-browser, and suggests aren't installed by default) | 11:31 |
| sladen | chrisccoulson: apt-mark showauto | grep epiphany shows it as having been automaticallly installed | 11:39 |
| chrisccoulson | have you configured your system to install suggests? | 11:39 |
| micahg | sladen: aptitude why epiphany-browser | 11:39 |
| sladen | thunderbird-locale-en-gb -> language-support-translations-en -> gimp-help-en -> www-browser -> epiphany-browser | 11:43 |
| chrisccoulson | that dependency chain is ok | 11:45 |
| micahg | not really, tb-locales doesn't depend on that package anymroe | 11:48 |
| micahg | *anymore | 11:48 |
| micahg | sladen: what version of the thunderbird-locale package do you have/ | 11:48 |
| sladen | thunderbird-locale-en-gb 1:2.0.0.14+1-0ubuntu2 | 11:50 |
| * micahg wonders if the locales got out of NEW | 11:51 | |
| micahg | yes, sladen, that's not the latest version in lucid | 11:51 |
| micahg | do you have thunderbird 3 yet? | 11:51 |
| lifeless | sladen: thunderbird-locale-thr-gb is more fun | 11:52 |
| sladen | micahg: The only .*thunderbird.* package I have is 'thunderbird-locale-en-gb'. (eg. I run with the defaults in order to dogfood) | 11:53 |
| micahg | sladen: than the issue is language-support-translations which should have been removed...I'd move your bug to update-manager... | 11:54 |
| sladen | micahg: done, and CC'ed mvo | 11:54 |
| micahg | I subscribed as well | 11:57 |
| sladen | lifeless: I'm still puzzling over what language code 'thr' is. Is it for some remote British island colony or something? | 12:02 |
| lifeless | klingon | 12:02 |
| StevenK | And it's tlh | 12:03 |
| lifeless | oh, my fail. | 12:03 |
| lifeless | StevenK: so why couldn't you sync it ? | 12:03 |
| StevenK | lifeless: It wasn't in unstable yet? | 12:03 |
| lifeless | StevenK: rmadison thought it was | 12:03 |
| lifeless | StevenK: which I guess is what requestsync uses. | 12:03 |
| * StevenK kicks cocoplum | 12:04 | |
| lifeless | StevenK: I mean, I didn't do any silly buggery, I just ran requestsync --lp -d unstable testresources | 12:05 |
| lifeless | and figured it would complain if it was too early. | 12:05 |
| lifeless | StevenK: should I be doing something different? | 12:05 |
| StevenK | lifeless: Nah, sounds like an okay process | 12:05 |
| StevenK | lifeless: Synced. | 12:07 |
| lifeless | thanks! | 12:07 |
| muelli | heya, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugs-auftrags-killer/+archive/muelli claims that my PPA is signed with a key, but http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bugs-auftrags-killer/muelli/ubuntu/dists/karmic/Release.pgp does not exist. How can I get the repository signed? | 13:46 |
| al-maisan | muelli: is your ppa new or was it recently created? | 14:10 |
| al-maisan | muelli: under normal circumstances a signing key is created for a PPA shortly after it was created | 14:11 |
| muelli | al-maisan: yeah, it's newish. three days old or so. And as I've said: The website claims it's signed, but the Release.pgp is missing. | 14:12 |
| micahg | muelli: try asking in #launchpad | 14:15 |
| muelli | micahg: thx. will do | 14:18 |
| al-maisan | muelli: that's out of the ordinary .. it should not take 3 days to generate the signing key | 14:21 |
| muelli | al-maisan: interestingly enough, I imported that key manually, so it exists at least :) | 14:24 |
| al-maisan | muelli: great :) | 14:25 |
| flower | in which package is update-initramfs? | 14:47 |
| micahg | flower: initramfs-tools | 14:49 |
| flower | micahg: thx | 14:49 |
| muelli | flower: I use http://packages.ubuntu.com to search the packages that contain files :) | 14:52 |
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| Lex79 | I can't build the new version of kdebindings, something in mono is in "New" I think | 18:08 |
| Lex79 | http://pastebin.ca/1814542 | 18:08 |
| Lex79 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mono/2.4.4~svn151842-1ubuntu2 | 18:09 |
| directhex | Lex79, yes, i was about to ask for an archive admin to intervene | 18:10 |
| directhex | Lex79, the cross-platform parts of mono are stuck in NEW (because the i386 build is stuck in NEW) | 18:10 |
| Lex79 | ok thanks :) | 18:11 |
| directhex | because libmono-rabbitmq2.0-cil_2.4.4~svn151842-1ubuntu1_all.deb and libmono-messaging-rabbitmq2.0-cil_2.4.4~svn151842-1ubuntu1_all.deb are actually new this upload. | 18:11 |
| Lex79 | oh, I see | 18:12 |
| ebroder | Are any core-devs around that could take a look at bug #497606? We just deployed CUPS 1.4 servers here, but have a lot of Hardy/Jaunty clients, so this bug is hitting us fairly hard | 18:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 497606 in cupsys "lpstat in CUPS 1.3 can't list jobs on CUPS 1.4 servers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/497606 | 18:27 |
| ebroder | I've had a tested debdiff sitting there for 2 months now | 18:28 |
| Amaranth | ebroder: in about 12-16 hours there will be a bunch | 18:37 |
| * ebroder sighs. Damn time zones | 18:37 | |
| jdong | ebroder: do you need sru bits too? | 18:46 |
| jdong | </toolazytoclick> | 18:46 |
| jdong | ebroder: I do see core-devs alive right now but I'm afraid I'll be kidnapped in my sleep for revealing them ;-) | 18:51 |
| jdong | *keeps mouth shut* | 18:51 |
| directhex | jdong, how about archive admins? :p | 18:58 |
| jdong | directhex: am I not spying in the right channels? | 18:59 |
| ebroder | jdong: Yeah, it's an SRU | 19:17 |
| ebroder | Thanks | 19:19 |
| ebroder | jdong: Can you accept nominations on that bug? Or do you have to be able to upload the package to do that? | 19:20 |
| ebroder | (cupsys+hardy, cups+intrepid, and cups+jaunty should be accepted, and all the others should be rejected) | 19:21 |
| Laney | yah boo | 19:21 |
| jdong | ebroder: no, that's still core-dev only I'm afraid | 19:24 |
| lifeless | kees: bug 528115 | 19:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 528115 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "Mouse cursor does not show after startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528115 | 19:52 |
| lifeless | bah | 19:52 |
| lifeless | kees: bug 528155 | 19:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 528155 in linux "needs a breaks: clause for lvm2 versions in hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528155 | 19:52 |
| lifeless | kees: thats the lvm issue I ran into last week | 19:53 |
| kees | lifeless: yup, hopefully the kernel team will catch it. I'll milestone it. | 19:59 |
| lifeless | kees: thanks | 20:00 |
| _Groo_ | can anyone tell me if sun-java6 was pulled out of lucid? | 20:42 |
| mdeslaur | _Groo_: it will be moved to the partner repo | 20:43 |
| _Groo_ | mdeslaur: ah ok, but is the partner repo already activated in alpha3? | 20:45 |
| mdeslaur | _Groo_: there was a problem putting sun-java6 into the partner repo this week, it should be fixed shortly | 20:45 |
| Lex79 | directhex: no news about mono issue? :( | 20:46 |
| directhex | Lex79, i haven't noticed an archive admin skulking about yety | 20:46 |
| directhex | or anyone i know to be an archive admin | 20:47 |
| _Groo_ | mdeslaur: ok thanks... i almost had an heart attack lol | 20:47 |
| Lex79 | ok | 20:47 |
| jdong | hmmmm any upstart/bootup deities in here? | 20:54 |
| jdong | http://jdong.mit.edu/~jdong/bootchart_lucid.png | 20:54 |
| jdong | my system seems to stall at bootup for $a_long_time doing nothing | 20:55 |
| jdong | and bootchart seems to confirm that | 20:55 |
| jdong | any hints for debugging this? | 20:55 |
| slangasek | jdong: what makes you think it's stalling? | 21:06 |
| jdong | no disk IO, just mouse pointer on a console background | 21:06 |
| slangasek | "mouse pointer on a console background" - standard plymouth bug | 21:06 |
| jdong | slangasek: ah | 21:14 |
| jdong | it just seems like from 13 seconds to 57 seconds nothing's "happening" | 21:16 |
| slangasek | jdong: because your X is wedged. Ctrl+Alt+F2, Ctrl+Alt+F7 to fix it (maybe) | 21:16 |
| jdong | ah | 21:16 |
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