| uvirtbot | New bug: #528860 in vsftpd (main) "Anonymous ftp not disabled by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528860 | 00:31 |
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| chilicuil | how would you install vbox without X?, I've tried with some .deb packages I've downloaded from virtualbox and sun without sucess | 01:22 |
| jmarsden | chilicuil: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose --no-install-recommends # should do it, I think? | 01:40 |
| chilicuil | thx jmarsden, I'm gonna give it a try | 01:40 |
| jmarsden | Don't "download packages", use the Ubuntu-provided ones. | 01:40 |
| chilicuil | but it only provides the ose package with lack of features such as vrdp or usb support, jmarsden | 01:41 |
| jmarsden | Sure, but it works :) | 01:41 |
| Cromulent | gah - why does the dovecot-imapd package require you to install the libmysql and mysql-common? | 04:36 |
| Bookman | Is there a free alternative to cpanel available? | 05:16 |
| Bookman | Is there a free alternative to cpanel available? | 05:36 |
| zroysch | is there any logical reason why unplugging a sata drive would cause other drives to not show up on boot in the list of connected drives for each sata controller | 06:22 |
| zroysch | they dont even show up after i plug it back in | 06:22 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #529349 in mailman (main) "postfix-to-mailman.py is broken when postfix recipient_delimiter="-"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529349 | 07:11 |
| sherr | Bookman: cpanel alternative : http://www.ispconfig.org/ | 07:26 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #459055 in puppet (main) "package puppet 0.24.8-2ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: il sottoprocesso vecchio script di post-installation ha restituito lo stato di errore 1" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/459055 | 08:11 |
| Roxyhart0 | hi there i need to download the windows drivers for my cups-samba ...i already did. but when i do cupsaddsmb it say i dont have any woindows drivers. somebody know what i need to do to install this drivers on my samba server? | 09:21 |
| BulleTh0 | Roxyhart0, did you tryed this? http://www.cups.org/software.php?VERSION=1.4.2&FILE=cups/windows/cups-windows-6.0-source.tar.bz2 | 09:27 |
| Roxyhart0 | thanks BulleTh0, yes i did and then i run the command rpmbuild -ta cups-version-source.tar.gz | 09:40 |
| Roxyhart0 | it install a folder rpmbuild, but i dont know what i need to do then | 09:41 |
| Roxyhart0 | because when i run cupsaddsmb -a it say i dont have any windows drivers installed. So i suppose i n need to do something else after the command rpmbuild | 09:42 |
| Roxyhart0 | do you know tis command? | 09:44 |
| Roxyhart0 | this | 09:45 |
| BulleTh0 | Roxyhart0, you need to copy some win dlls from c:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\w32x86\ to /usr/share/cups/drivers/ | 10:13 |
| BulleTh0 | Show me ls -al /usr/share/cups/drivers/ | 10:13 |
| Roxyhart0 | ok, give me a second | 10:16 |
| Roxyhart0 | i got just cups6.inf, cups6.ini, cupsps6.dll and cupsui6.dll | 10:17 |
| BulleTh0 | You need these files too ps5ui.dll pscript5.dll pscript.hlp pscript.ntf | 10:18 |
| Roxyhart0 | how i can get those files, just cpy from a windows machine? | 10:19 |
| BulleTh0 | Yep. Look here how it should be. http://paste.ubuntu.com/385609/ | 10:19 |
| Roxyhart0 | ok, i will try, thanks. what about the driver for printers to windows machines. i am confuse because cusp.org say i need to dowload from their webpage and i didt work for me | 10:22 |
| BulleTh0 | On the windows machine you don't need any drivers. Just right-click and connect | 10:22 |
| Roxyhart0 | ok, i got a old print server and it laso have folder such as x86 and cups-1.3.x | 10:23 |
| Roxyhart0 | ok, i just copy those files but now when i do cupsaddsmb -a I am getting the error :session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE | 10:33 |
| Roxyhart0 | do you know when it happen? | 10:33 |
| BulleTh0 | Sorry Roxyhart0 my net died. | 11:03 |
| BulleTh0 | I think you need to make some permissions. | 11:03 |
| Roxyhart0 | i neded to copy some files form the old server located on /var/lib/samba/printers ...but it shouldn't to be the way...still dont understand why the "cups" doc doesn't work | 11:07 |
| Roxyhart0 | from * | 11:07 |
| MatBoy | someone using ubuntu with samba and policies ? | 11:46 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #529421 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.7.0-1 failed to install/upgrade: underproces installed post-installation script returnerede afslutningsstatus 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529421 | 12:06 |
| philsturgeon | using virtualmin and i seem to be having trouble viewing my sites via userdir. it was enabled and configured, but today i am getting 500 errors every time i try to view one. http://albert.serverofdoom.co.uk/~philstu/ | 14:14 |
| lamont | philsturgeon: what does the apache error log have to say? | 14:17 |
| philsturgeon | lamont: struggling to find the damn thing :$ | 14:19 |
| philsturgeon | lamont: fail locate apache | grep error | 14:19 |
| lamont | see the config file - if you didn't change it there, then /var/log/apache2/error.log or some such | 14:21 |
| philsturgeon | lamont: nothing showing in there, last error was Sun Feb 28 14:02:21 :-/ | 14:23 |
| lamont | throwing a 500 without logging something is kinda rude of it. there has to be some leavings somewhere..... | 14:24 |
| lamont | but nfc what the issue is, sadly | 14:24 |
| philsturgeon | anybody else know what could be making userdir fire a 500 error, or how i can find out why? | 14:26 |
| resno | is it possible to run windows under a virtualbox on a server? | 14:40 |
| resno | in a way to miniize guis and cpu cylces | 14:42 |
| MatBoy | I wonder why sudo net rpc user password tom "secret" -U root gives me a "A bad password was supplied." message | 14:47 |
| nOStahl | hi guys is there a way i can serv images of operating systems over a network to a thin client | 15:05 |
| nOStahl | what is needed for that software wise | 15:05 |
| sherr | nOStahl: maybe the Linux Terminal Server Project is worth a look | 15:19 |
| RoyK | nOStahl: ltsp is probably the choice of that, yes | 15:37 |
| nOStahl | k | 15:38 |
| nOStahl | i have a dell poweredge 2850 to play with | 15:38 |
| RoyK | nOStahl: mohaha - tomorrow I have a nice little 2U box with eight 2TB drives dedicated for testing | 15:42 |
| nOStahl | jellous | 15:46 |
| nOStahl | this server just has two 73 gig maxtors heh | 15:46 |
| nOStahl | so with ltsp running on my ubuntu server. (not sure i understand how this works yet) can i serve windows images? | 15:55 |
| RoyK | no ubuntu on this box, though | 15:59 |
| RoyK | opensolaris ftw :) | 15:59 |
| nOStahl | what im wondering is. i have this server here. and a couple thinclients. would like to be able to boot windows xp on the thinclients served from the server | 16:00 |
| nOStahl | is that what ltsp does? | 16:00 |
| nOStahl | or boot linux distro as well on the thinclients | 16:00 |
| zroysch | ok i guess its time to get new hardware | 16:01 |
| zroysch | jesus this is annoying | 16:01 |
| zroysch | how does shit just stop working | 16:02 |
| RoyK | nOStahl: you're looking for freenx | 16:02 |
| zroysch | if i were to get this motherboard would it have ANY problems recognizing 1tb sata drives on EVERY boot? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358 | 16:03 |
| RoyK | nOStahl: or perhaps xen | 16:04 |
| zroysch | it looks like theyre no longer integrating video | 16:05 |
| zroysch | which means i'll need a pcix card | 16:05 |
| zroysch | sigh | 16:05 |
| dustin_ | I am having some trouble with drupal on my ubuntu 8.04 server is this the best place to get answers or is there a drupal channel somewhere? | 16:07 |
| zroysch | ChanServ: (notice) [#Drupal] Welcome to the generic Drupal channel. Feel free to ask here -- you might get an answer or a suggestion of which channel would fit better. Visit #drupal-contribute if you want to contribute something (and you know you want to). | 16:10 |
| dustin_ | when I add an attatchment to my new drupal install it is only visible in the post to me and no other users how do I fix that | 16:15 |
| nOStahl | use wordpress | 16:27 |
| nOStahl | it fixes everything | 16:27 |
| dustin_ | where do I get wordpress and is it an addon to drupal or a substitute? | 16:28 |
| nOStahl | wordpress.org | 16:28 |
| dustin_ | how much configureing will it take to add it into my lamp server | 16:29 |
| RoyK | nothing | 16:30 |
| RoyK | apt-get install the bits | 16:30 |
| RoyK | wordpress will need some more, but not a lot | 16:30 |
| dustin_ | "the bits"? | 16:30 |
| RoyK | wordpress needs mod_rewrite and some php stuff | 16:30 |
| RoyK | larger memory than the initial 8 megs etc | 16:31 |
| RoyK | but it's all in the wp docs | 16:31 |
| RoyK | not a lot | 16:31 |
| dustin_ | so this is a replacement for drupal | 16:31 |
| RoyK | not replacement | 16:31 |
| RoyK | merely an alternative | 16:31 |
| dustin_ | extention? | 16:31 |
| RoyK | no | 16:31 |
| dustin_ | oh ok | 16:31 |
| dustin_ | I just wanted to know if I needed to remove drupal before installin | 16:32 |
| RoyK | drupal is probably better in terms of CMSes, but wordpress is easier to install | 16:32 |
| dustin_ | I want easy managability for my users | 16:32 |
| RoyK | wordpress lives in a directory and a database and coexist quite happily with drupal | 16:32 |
| dustin_ | I want them to be able to simply post somethign with a picture | 16:33 |
| RoyK | wordpress might be good then | 16:33 |
| RoyK | or drupal | 16:33 |
| RoyK | or any good cms | 16:33 |
| RoyK | just find what you like | 16:33 |
| dustin_ | well I already installed drupal and moist of my ppl hae signed up for it | 16:34 |
| RoyK | if it works, don't fix it | 16:34 |
| dustin_ | just cant seem to get the pictures working | 16:34 |
| dustin_ | new to drupal | 16:34 |
| RoyK | changing the whole system because of such a detail seems overrated | 16:34 |
| RoyK | try to ask on #drupal if such a channel exists | 16:34 |
| dustin_ | the question is what server would #drupal be on... | 16:35 |
| dustin_ | googling things with drupal in the title is a nitemare | 16:35 |
| nOStahl | usually when drupal or wordpress wont post pictures is lack of ram aloud to php | 16:36 |
| nOStahl | check your php.ini file | 16:36 |
| dustin_ | do I cat that or emacs it to check it? | 16:36 |
| nOStahl | sudo nano /etc/php/php.ini probably | 16:37 |
| dustin_ | there is no php diredctory in /etc | 16:39 |
| nOStahl | search for php.ini in /etc/apache2 | 16:39 |
| dustin_ | not there either | 16:41 |
| nOStahl | poke around | 16:41 |
| RoyK | dustin_: have you installed php? | 16:43 |
| nOStahl | he must if he has drupal working | 16:43 |
| RoyK | /etc/php/apache2/php.ini | 16:44 |
| RoyK | try that | 16:44 |
| RoyK | modifying it | 16:44 |
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| dustin_ | royk php is installed ond functioning great | 16:44 |
| RoyK | /etc/php/apache2/php.ini ? | 16:44 |
| dustin_ | there is no php directory in etc | 16:45 |
| dustin_ | cd php | 16:45 |
| dustin_ | sorry too many open windows | 16:46 |
| RoyK | erm | 16:46 |
| RoyK | cd /etc/php5 | 16:46 |
| RoyK | does that work? | 16:46 |
| dustin_ | nobs.game-host.org/zwoop.php works still | 16:47 |
| RoyK | hey, is there a directory called /etc/php5? | 16:47 |
| dustin_ | I did ls -a to see what is in etd and nothing with php in the name of the directory is there | 16:47 |
| dustin_ | etc* | 16:47 |
| RoyK | what happens if you do 'cd /etc/php5' ? | 16:48 |
| RoyK | after doing that, please do 'pwd' and paste the result | 16:48 |
| RoyK | and any error messages | 16:48 |
| dustin_ | it opened but that is strnge it isnt in the ls I just looked at | 16:48 |
| RoyK | whatever | 16:48 |
| RoyK | when pwd says you're in /etc/php5 | 16:49 |
| RoyK | cd apache2 | 16:49 |
| RoyK | vi php.ini | 16:49 |
| RoyK | look for 'memory limit = ' | 16:49 |
| dustin_ | what line am I looking for in the ini file | 16:49 |
| RoyK | no idea | 16:49 |
| RoyK | look for the string | 16:50 |
| RoyK | if you're not familiar with vi as an editor, type <esc>:wq!<enter> at once | 16:50 |
| RoyK | then use nano or something | 16:50 |
| dustin_ | I use emacs | 16:50 |
| RoyK | ok | 16:50 |
| RoyK | search for 'memory_limit', 'max_post_size' and 'upload_max_size' and change those to larger values | 16:51 |
| RoyK | after that, restart apache | 16:51 |
| dustin_ | post_max_size = 8M | 16:51 |
| RoyK | memory_limit should be set to something you can afford. the others should be set to something less, according to your needs | 16:51 |
| RoyK | yes, that's the default | 16:52 |
| RoyK | and usually too low | 16:52 |
| dustin_ | I am running 256 ram with a 40gb hdd on this tiny server what do you reccomend there | 16:52 |
| RoyK | 256 megs of ram? | 16:52 |
| dustin_ | its a p3 | 16:52 |
| RoyK | not a lot | 16:52 |
| RoyK | but try giving php 128 megs | 16:53 |
| RoyK | and set vm.swappiness to 100 | 16:53 |
| dustin_ | total or in max post | 16:53 |
| RoyK | sysctl vm.swappiness = 100 | 16:53 |
| RoyK | just try both | 16:53 |
| RoyK | 256 megs of ram is not a lot these days | 16:53 |
| RoyK | start with 64 megs on all three variables | 16:53 |
| RoyK | it will probably cover most of the needs | 16:54 |
| dustin_ | I know that, that is why I use ubuntu server for it | 16:54 |
| dustin_ | I call it a scrap metal server :) | 16:54 |
| RoyK | still, login as root or sudo in and increase vm.swappiness | 16:54 |
| RoyK | it's on 60 (per cent) as a default, and on low memory systems, that's too low | 16:54 |
| dustin_ | ty | 16:56 |
| dustin_ | sorry if i soud a little dumb but I am new to drupal and php, this server has been great most of the problems are operator error I think | 16:57 |
| RoyK | drupal probably isn't the problem | 16:58 |
| RoyK | restart the services and try again | 16:58 |
| RoyK | it'll probably work | 16:58 |
| RoyK | but 256 megs of ram for a drupal server is not a lot | 16:59 |
| dustin_ | I have a new board waiting to go in as soon as I get a processor for my main computer then I will have a 3gig setup under it | 16:59 |
| dustin_ | but 265 was pushing it in that old pentium3 setup | 17:00 |
| dustin_ | when I restart "services" do I restart apache, mysql and php? | 17:01 |
| dustin_ | I didnt think php was restartable | 17:01 |
| RoyK | php is linked to apache - just restart apache | 17:02 |
| dustin_ | ok | 17:02 |
| RoyK | mysql is connected through a socket, and won't need a restart | 17:02 |
| zroysch | wow how long does it take to rm a 1tb file | 17:15 |
| zroysch | i thought it could just mark it for overwrite or something | 17:15 |
| martin- | zroysch it depends on the filesystem | 17:19 |
| zroysch | martin-: i see. its somewhere between ext2 and ext3 | 17:31 |
| zroysch | file is gone now | 17:31 |
| zroysch | e2fsck found errors on the file system. | 17:32 |
| zroysch | great. | 17:32 |
| zroysch | that is from part image, when I'm trying to image this raid5 partition | 17:32 |
| chocamo | Right now I have a nas using ubuntu server. I also have a small website and I was thinking of just hosting myself through the nas. My worry is security. What could I do to assure none of the personal files on the nas will be compromised by opening it up like this | 17:33 |
| zroysch | oh i have the option to continue | 17:33 |
| zroysch | chocamo: put a firewall in front | 17:33 |
| zroysch | pfsense, ipcop | 17:33 |
| ikonia | chocamo: lock down your ports, make sure file permissions are right, | 17:33 |
| ikonia | and by right I mean "tight" | 17:34 |
| chocamo | how so? Just make sure permission for the right people are what they need to be? | 17:34 |
| chocamo | thats about all you can do right? | 17:35 |
| zroysch | Can't read bitmap block 0 from image | 17:35 |
| zroysch | great. | 17:35 |
| zroysch | is there any way to make part image work when i have file system errors | 17:36 |
| zroysch | i get mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/md2, | 17:36 |
| chocamo | there should be a force option right? | 17:36 |
| chocamo | I dont remember what it was | 17:36 |
| zroysch | hmm not seeing any mention of force on the man page | 17:38 |
| chocamo | maybe im thinking of something else | 17:38 |
| zroysch | it is almost guaranteed i'm going to lose data if i e2fsck right | 17:38 |
| Hoppipola | I have a problem with my RAID 5 /dev/md1 device. Here is my fdisk -l and my mdadm -D /dev/md0 and md1 http://pastebin.com/MBmyrdc4 I recently lost a disk, and failed, removed it, and added a new one. I am trying to mount now, and I can't because I get this error http://pastebin.com/8sSV4xtq | 17:42 |
| Hoppipola | Is there a way to retrieve ANY of the data on md1? | 17:43 |
| zroysch | geeze | 17:43 |
| zroysch | you and me both | 17:43 |
| zroysch | starting to think md raid is more trouble than its worth | 17:43 |
| Hoppipola | zroysch: I know, I feel like I could have just done multiple hardware backups and been done with it...but I dropped one :( | 17:44 |
| Hoppipola | it is in the freezer now, I might try mounting it cold | 17:44 |
| zroysch | lolwut | 17:45 |
| Hoppipola | zroysch: worked for me before | 17:45 |
| Hoppipola | sometimes a damaged disk can be frozen and then mounted cold if you REALLY need the data. Feds do it to break hackers comps, they drop hds in liquid nitrogen | 17:46 |
| Hoppipola | =P | 17:46 |
| zroysch | interesting | 17:47 |
| qman__ | I've heard that advice too, didn't work in my case | 17:47 |
| qman__ | I lost an 8x500GB RAID 5 array when two disks failed within an hour of each other | 17:47 |
| Hoppipola | qman_: bad luck, sorry to hear that | 17:47 |
| zroysch | raid5 is terrible | 17:48 |
| Hoppipola | I have a lot of problems with it | 17:48 |
| zroysch | it seems like a bad idea to use drives from the same batch also | 17:48 |
| qman__ | nothing too important was lost, fortunately | 17:48 |
| zroysch | yea i have nothing important on here | 17:48 |
| zroysch | just media | 17:48 |
| zroysch | but my music is pretty important to me | 17:48 |
| qman__ | now I'm running 8x1TB in a RAID6 with one spare configuration | 17:48 |
| chocamo | I just do bihourly rsyncs | 17:48 |
| Hoppipola | zroysch: wish I could say the same about only losing media :( | 17:48 |
| chocamo | on 2 diff brand drives | 17:48 |
| zroysch | Hoppipola: if its business you gotta be foolish not to backup | 17:48 |
| Hoppipola | zroysch: I dropped the backup | 17:49 |
| zroysch | dropped? | 17:49 |
| Hoppipola | ya | 17:49 |
| Hoppipola | like, on the ground | 17:49 |
| zroysch | like you were holding it and it fell onto the floor | 17:49 |
| zroysch | thats odd | 17:49 |
| Hoppipola | zroysch: THEN my hd fell | 17:49 |
| Hoppipola | out of the array that is | 17:49 |
| Hoppipola | but yeah, bad timing | 17:49 |
| chocamo | ya that sucks | 17:49 |
| qman__ | yeah | 17:50 |
| qman__ | when I put the first one together I had read that raid 6 was for the paranoid | 17:50 |
| chocamo | you need like 3 systems in those black box cases all backing eachother up | 17:50 |
| qman__ | then I lost my data, now I use it | 17:50 |
| zroysch | even raid6 | 17:50 |
| zroysch | seems like raid10 is the only legit one | 17:50 |
| Hoppipola | yeah, I am starting to think I should just make a triangular mirror | 17:51 |
| Hoppipola | the RAID, and two external hard copies, but then backup becomes a serious pain | 17:51 |
| chocamo | whats your favorite mail server? | 17:51 |
| qman__ | I like postfix | 17:52 |
| chocamo | postfix is default right? | 17:52 |
| qman__ | yes | 17:52 |
| chocamo | I am looking to create a local only frontend for a mail server with php. But I am not sure how I would interface with the mail server itself? Just system() commands in php? | 17:52 |
| qman__ | what | 17:53 |
| chocamo | I want to make my own personal gmail ripoff | 17:53 |
| qman__ | what's the frontend for? as in, what is it supposed to do? | 17:53 |
| qman__ | are you just looking for a webmail system? if so, there are plenty that already exist | 17:54 |
| chocamo | but I am unfamiliar with postfix so I dont knwo how I would actually retrieve the mail to display etc | 17:54 |
| chocamo | I'd like to do my own just for fun | 17:54 |
| qman__ | well, postfix is only an SMTP server | 17:54 |
| chocamo | whats a good imap one? | 17:54 |
| zroysch | do people use imap ? | 17:55 |
| qman__ | postfix+dovecot is the typical setup | 17:55 |
| qman__ | I always use imap | 17:55 |
| zroysch | i tried it in the office in outlook2007 | 17:55 |
| chocamo | ok | 17:55 |
| zroysch | it was god awful | 17:55 |
| Hoppipola | can one use fsck to fix corrupted superblocks on ext3 on a drive? | 17:55 |
| zroysch | it was slow | 17:55 |
| zroysch | and deleting emails was stupid | 17:55 |
| zroysch | crossing them out like | 17:55 |
| qman__ | the problem with pop3 is that it only delivers once | 17:55 |
| zroysch | but it was through godaddy so maybe that was the problem | 17:55 |
| qman__ | doesn't work if you have multiple clients on the same account | 17:55 |
| qman__ | I get pop3 sent to my phone and imap in thunderbird | 17:55 |
| zroysch | the godaddy guy said imap is good because it syncs all your devices to have the same mailbox | 17:56 |
| zroysch | they all hated it though so i went to pop3 | 17:56 |
| qman__ | imap is slower, because the mail stays on the server, but it provides far more functionality | 17:56 |
| chocamo | ya and thats what I want | 17:56 |
| qman__ | I've got about 8 accounts set up in my thunderbird, all imap | 17:57 |
| qman__ | it takes about five seconds to fetch my mail | 17:57 |
| qman__ | and opening a folder takes about a second | 17:57 |
| zroysch | local server? | 17:58 |
| qman__ | no, internet | 17:58 |
| zroysch | took like 20-30 at work | 17:58 |
| zroysch | it was stupid | 17:58 |
| qman__ | gmail, AIM, hosted websites | 17:58 |
| zroysch | interesting | 17:58 |
| qman__ | if you're deleting or marking hundreds of messages at once, it hangs notably | 17:58 |
| qman__ | but just reading my mail, it takes only a second or two to load each message | 17:58 |
| zroysch | and when you go to delete it | 17:59 |
| zroysch | what happens | 17:59 |
| qman__ | I generally don't delete my mail, but that only takes a second or two as well | 17:59 |
| zroysch | in outlook it would make a crossout | 17:59 |
| zroysch | and just leave it there | 17:59 |
| zroysch | until some time later when it removes it | 17:59 |
| zroysch | or you could choose to hide the crossouts | 17:59 |
| qman__ | I hate outlook with a burning passion | 17:59 |
| zroysch | also they were saying that if they accidentally deleted something they couldnt get it back | 18:00 |
| zroysch | in pop it just goes to the trash folder | 18:00 |
| zroysch | imap it disappears | 18:00 |
| qman__ | dealing with peoples' multi-GB pst files | 18:00 |
| zroysch | yea. i know | 18:00 |
| zroysch | if it had been up to me they wouldnt be using windows | 18:00 |
| qman__ | that's a problem with the way the server is set up, not imap itself | 18:00 |
| qman__ | or the client, not sure which | 18:01 |
| qman__ | you can move to trash on delete just fine | 18:01 |
| zroysch | i see | 18:01 |
| zroysch | so a godaddy problem then probably | 18:01 |
| qman__ | I actually ran into an issue related to that | 18:01 |
| qman__ | I would delete my spam, and thunderbird would move it to trash | 18:01 |
| qman__ | but on gmail, imap trash is not the real trash | 18:01 |
| qman__ | subsequently, my phone would download all the messages in imap trash via pop3 | 18:02 |
| qman__ | their pop3 configuration is not smart enough to consider imap trash as trash | 18:03 |
| zroysch | why not imap on the phone | 18:03 |
| qman__ | doesn't support it, or didn't when I set it up at least | 18:03 |
| zroysch | oh | 18:03 |
| zroysch | which | 18:03 |
| qman__ | they added it but I haven't gotten around to messing with it | 18:03 |
| qman__ | blackberry storm, the 4.x OS didn't support it, but the 5.x does | 18:04 |
| zroysch | i wanna try the nexus one | 18:04 |
| zroysch | coworker has android on some motorola | 18:04 |
| zroysch | i like it | 18:04 |
| zroysch | i have a bb. i think it sucks alot | 18:04 |
| qman__ | the storm, the hardware is nice, but the software is lacking | 18:04 |
| qman__ | it's slow, lacks features | 18:04 |
| zroysch | the touchscreen on that motorola actually seems usable | 18:05 |
| zroysch | iphone is not at all | 18:05 |
| qman__ | and RIM doesn't update very often | 18:05 |
| zroysch | yea | 18:05 |
| zroysch | so if partimage is telling me e2fsck found errors in the raid5 partition and i cant mount it because wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock | 18:07 |
| zroysch | what am i supposed to do | 18:07 |
| qman__ | the filesystem is probably trashed | 18:07 |
| qman__ | I'm guessing you lost a disk | 18:07 |
| qman__ | but one of the ones you have left isn't any good either | 18:07 |
| zroysch | yea i lost one and mistakenly pulled another one | 18:07 |
| zroysch | but the array is assembled and running | 18:08 |
| zroysch | maybe i should just e2fsck and see what happens | 18:08 |
| zroysch | hate losing data without a backup though | 18:08 |
| qman__ | is it ext3? | 18:08 |
| qman__ | if so, go for it | 18:08 |
| zroysch | it was originally | 18:08 |
| qman__ | ext3 has a very good recovery rate | 18:08 |
| zroysch | but an e2fscking somehow made at least one of the drives ext2 | 18:08 |
| qman__ | well, ext3 is mountable as ext2 | 18:09 |
| zroysch | ok so just e2fsck /dev/md2 ? | 18:09 |
| qman__ | I would just 'fsck /dev/md2' | 18:09 |
| zroysch | working | 18:10 |
| chocamo | how is xfs on file recovery? thats what ive been using for awhile | 18:13 |
| zroysch | http://pastebin.ca/1815812 | 18:14 |
| qman__ | I've had several xfs filesystems tank unrecoverably | 18:25 |
| qman__ | I suggest against it for important data | 18:25 |
| zroysch | what is the best for raid | 18:26 |
| * RoyK likes zfs | 18:26 | |
| zroysch | i use ext3 for everything | 18:26 |
| qman__ | I use ext3 just because it's been the most reliable for me | 18:26 |
| RoyK | btw, I've been using xfs for years without losing data | 18:26 |
| qman__ | I've never lost significant data due to ext3 | 18:26 |
| zroysch | man. this partition is completely hosed | 18:27 |
| qman__ | xfs is fine as long as your hardware never fails, you never lose power, and you never shut down improperly | 18:27 |
| qman__ | but, when it does break | 18:27 |
| qman__ | at least in my experience | 18:28 |
| qman__ | xfs loses the whole filesystem | 18:28 |
| qman__ | where ext3 and reiser can generally recover with minimal data loss | 18:28 |
| zroysch | gone beyond 3000 lines of fsck errors | 18:34 |
| zroysch | great. | 18:34 |
| RoyK | nice | 18:36 |
| RoyK | zroysch: raidz with zfs is nice | 18:37 |
| RoyK | but that's solaris, no idea what's best for linux | 18:37 |
| RoyK | for storage, I only use opensolaris these days | 18:37 |
| zroysch | why is it nice. | 18:37 |
| RoyK | well, linux lvm seems to be at its early teens compared to zfs | 18:38 |
| RoyK | it's a good filesystem with raid integrated | 18:38 |
| RoyK | and it's good | 18:38 |
| zroysch | i dont use lvm, i think | 18:38 |
| RoyK | copy-on-write and snapshotting integrated | 18:39 |
| RoyK | it's neat | 18:39 |
| RoyK | snapshotting without performance overhead is nice | 18:39 |
| RoyK | fs compression and deduplication is also nice | 18:39 |
| RoyK | it's not perfect, but still better than anything I've seen in the linux world | 18:40 |
| zroysch | yea not sure i'm trying to switch operating systems | 18:40 |
| RoyK | I never switched | 18:40 |
| RoyK | I merely added another | 18:40 |
| RoyK | I still use linux for most stuff | 18:41 |
| zroysch | well i'm not purchasing a new server to try it out | 18:41 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #529585 in ntp (main) "package ntp 1:4.2.4p6+dfsg-1ubuntu5.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529585 | 18:41 |
| RoyK | zroysch: try it on a vm | 18:41 |
| zroysch | dont have the time | 18:41 |
| RoyK | it's like not having the time to sharpen one's axe before chopping wood | 18:42 |
| zroysch | Restarting e2fsck from the beginning... | 19:17 |
| zroysch | /dev/md2 contains a file system with errors, check forced. | 19:17 |
| zroysch | wow | 19:17 |
| zroysch | after holding enter for like an hour | 19:18 |
| Blond | hi. anyone have 9.10 encrypted server installed? | 19:30 |
| Blond | making coffee. be back in 5 if anyone can help w/reboot-after crash on encrypted-server (Karmic). | 19:37 |
| sherr | zroysch: why did you have to "hold enter" for so long? | 20:03 |
| zroysch | sherr: because i didnt put the command on whatever makes it automatically press enter | 20:15 |
| zroysch | wow | 20:15 |
| zroysch | http://pastebin.ca/1815963 | 20:15 |
| zroysch | not looking good | 20:15 |
| soren | mdeslaur: Do you have /usr/share/pyshared/VMBuilder/plugins/network ? | 20:39 |
| mdeslaur | soren: nope | 20:39 |
| soren | mdeslaur: no?!?! | 20:39 |
| soren | Oh, wow, nor do I. | 20:40 |
| mdeslaur | soren: nope | 20:40 |
| soren | wtf.. It's in the tarball.. | 20:40 |
| soren | Oh, wow! | 20:40 |
| soren | Uh, yeah, ok. I'll just go ahead and fix that, shall I? | 20:40 |
| mdeslaur | soren: sure :) | 20:41 |
| zroysch | does anyone have a live stream for the gold medal match | 20:44 |
| zroysch | stupid nbc requiring that i login to verizon to prove my cable subscription | 20:44 |
| soren | "the gold medal match"? | 20:44 |
| zroysch | yes. ice hockey. | 20:44 |
| soren | Uh, no. Not in this channel. | 20:44 |
| zroysch | shall i meet you in another channel | 20:44 |
| soren | No. | 20:44 |
| zroysch | so you're speaking on behalf of everyone | 20:45 |
| soren | Yes. | 20:45 |
| soren | (!) | 20:45 |
| zroysch | grand | 20:45 |
| soren | Dude. This is a support/development channel for Ubuntu Server. | 20:45 |
| zroysch | chill out. | 20:45 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #529618 in vm-builder (universe) "vmbuilder crashed with VMBuilderException in get_setting()" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529618 | 20:51 |
| soren | mdeslaur: ^ | 20:54 |
| mdeslaur | thanks soren, that was fast :) | 20:55 |
| soren | mdeslaur: Embarassing is what it is :) | 20:57 |
| MatBoy | ahh ! tried two dynalinks on my ubuntuserver and none works... which did always on older versions ! | 21:03 |
| zroysch | if i'm sick and tired of holding enter in this fsck process can i cancel and restart using the option that auto-enters | 21:08 |
| johncc | Can anyone give me a pointer to a good resource on configuring wireless interfaces with /etc/network/interfaces ? | 21:13 |
| johncc | Is there any non-X tool that is better for a situation where I have a laptop server with a cardbus ethernet and cardbus wireless interfaces? | 21:14 |
| johncc | Something like Archlinux's netcfg | 21:14 |
| johncc | http://paste.debian.net/61877/ | 21:20 |
| johncc | Can anyone give me a pointer to a good resource on configuring wireless interfaces with /etc/network/interfaces ? | 21:23 |
| johncc | Trying to get a high-res console on GRUB2 seems to violate KISS massively :/ | 21:25 |
| johncc | I suppose they assume everyone will have KMS now | 21:25 |
| johncc | What was wrong with vga= though | 21:25 |
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