[00:31] New bug: #528860 in vsftpd (main) "Anonymous ftp not disabled by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528860 [01:22] how would you install vbox without X?, I've tried with some .deb packages I've downloaded from virtualbox and sun without sucess [01:40] chilicuil: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose --no-install-recommends # should do it, I think? [01:40] thx jmarsden, I'm gonna give it a try [01:40] Don't "download packages", use the Ubuntu-provided ones. [01:41] but it only provides the ose package with lack of features such as vrdp or usb support, jmarsden [01:41] Sure, but it works :) [04:36] gah - why does the dovecot-imapd package require you to install the libmysql and mysql-common? [05:16] Is there a free alternative to cpanel available? [05:36] Is there a free alternative to cpanel available? [06:22] is there any logical reason why unplugging a sata drive would cause other drives to not show up on boot in the list of connected drives for each sata controller [06:22] they dont even show up after i plug it back in [07:11] New bug: #529349 in mailman (main) "postfix-to-mailman.py is broken when postfix recipient_delimiter="-"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529349 [07:26] Bookman: cpanel alternative : http://www.ispconfig.org/ [08:11] New bug: #459055 in puppet (main) "package puppet 0.24.8-2ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: il sottoprocesso vecchio script di post-installation ha restituito lo stato di errore 1" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/459055 [09:21] hi there i need to download the windows drivers for my cups-samba ...i already did. but when i do cupsaddsmb it say i dont have any woindows drivers. somebody know what i need to do to install this drivers on my samba server? [09:27] Roxyhart0, did you tryed this? http://www.cups.org/software.php?VERSION=1.4.2&FILE=cups/windows/cups-windows-6.0-source.tar.bz2 [09:40] thanks BulleTh0, yes i did and then i run the command rpmbuild -ta cups-version-source.tar.gz [09:41] it install a folder rpmbuild, but i dont know what i need to do then [09:42] because when i run cupsaddsmb -a it say i dont have any windows drivers installed. So i suppose i n need to do something else after the command rpmbuild [09:44] do you know tis command? [09:45] this [10:13] Roxyhart0, you need to copy some win dlls from c:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\w32x86\ to /usr/share/cups/drivers/ [10:13] Show me ls -al /usr/share/cups/drivers/ [10:16] ok, give me a second [10:17] i got just cups6.inf, cups6.ini, cupsps6.dll and cupsui6.dll [10:18] You need these files too ps5ui.dll pscript5.dll pscript.hlp pscript.ntf [10:19] how i can get those files, just cpy from a windows machine? [10:19] Yep. Look here how it should be. http://paste.ubuntu.com/385609/ [10:22] ok, i will try, thanks. what about the driver for printers to windows machines. i am confuse because cusp.org say i need to dowload from their webpage and i didt work for me [10:22] On the windows machine you don't need any drivers. Just right-click and connect [10:23] ok, i got a old print server and it laso have folder such as x86 and cups-1.3.x [10:33] ok, i just copy those files but now when i do cupsaddsmb -a I am getting the error :session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE [10:33] do you know when it happen? [11:03] Sorry Roxyhart0 my net died. [11:03] I think you need to make some permissions. [11:07] i neded to copy some files form the old server located on /var/lib/samba/printers ...but it shouldn't to be the way...still dont understand why the "cups" doc doesn't work [11:07] from * [11:46] someone using ubuntu with samba and policies ? [12:06] New bug: #529421 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.7.0-1 failed to install/upgrade: underproces installed post-installation script returnerede afslutningsstatus 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529421 [14:14] using virtualmin and i seem to be having trouble viewing my sites via userdir. it was enabled and configured, but today i am getting 500 errors every time i try to view one. http://albert.serverofdoom.co.uk/~philstu/ [14:17] philsturgeon: what does the apache error log have to say? [14:19] lamont: struggling to find the damn thing :$ [14:19] lamont: fail locate apache | grep error [14:21] see the config file - if you didn't change it there, then /var/log/apache2/error.log or some such [14:23] lamont: nothing showing in there, last error was Sun Feb 28 14:02:21 :-/ [14:24] throwing a 500 without logging something is kinda rude of it. there has to be some leavings somewhere..... [14:24] but nfc what the issue is, sadly [14:26] anybody else know what could be making userdir fire a 500 error, or how i can find out why? [14:40] is it possible to run windows under a virtualbox on a server? [14:42] in a way to miniize guis and cpu cylces [14:47] I wonder why sudo net rpc user password tom "secret" -U root gives me a "A bad password was supplied." message [15:05] hi guys is there a way i can serv images of operating systems over a network to a thin client [15:05] what is needed for that software wise [15:19] nOStahl: maybe the Linux Terminal Server Project is worth a look [15:37] nOStahl: ltsp is probably the choice of that, yes [15:38] k [15:38] i have a dell poweredge 2850 to play with [15:42] nOStahl: mohaha - tomorrow I have a nice little 2U box with eight 2TB drives dedicated for testing [15:46] jellous [15:46] this server just has two 73 gig maxtors heh [15:55] so with ltsp running on my ubuntu server. (not sure i understand how this works yet) can i serve windows images? [15:59] no ubuntu on this box, though [15:59] opensolaris ftw :) [16:00] what im wondering is. i have this server here. and a couple thinclients. would like to be able to boot windows xp on the thinclients served from the server [16:00] is that what ltsp does? [16:00] or boot linux distro as well on the thinclients [16:01] ok i guess its time to get new hardware [16:01] jesus this is annoying [16:02] how does shit just stop working [16:02] nOStahl: you're looking for freenx [16:03] if i were to get this motherboard would it have ANY problems recognizing 1tb sata drives on EVERY boot? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358 [16:04] nOStahl: or perhaps xen [16:05] it looks like theyre no longer integrating video [16:05] which means i'll need a pcix card [16:05] sigh [16:07] I am having some trouble with drupal on my ubuntu 8.04 server is this the best place to get answers or is there a drupal channel somewhere? [16:10] ChanServ: (notice) [#Drupal] Welcome to the generic Drupal channel. Feel free to ask here -- you might get an answer or a suggestion of which channel would fit better. Visit #drupal-contribute if you want to contribute something (and you know you want to). [16:15] when I add an attatchment to my new drupal install it is only visible in the post to me and no other users how do I fix that [16:27] use wordpress [16:27] it fixes everything [16:28] where do I get wordpress and is it an addon to drupal or a substitute? [16:28] wordpress.org [16:29] how much configureing will it take to add it into my lamp server [16:30] nothing [16:30] apt-get install the bits [16:30] wordpress will need some more, but not a lot [16:30] "the bits"? [16:30] wordpress needs mod_rewrite and some php stuff [16:31] larger memory than the initial 8 megs etc [16:31] but it's all in the wp docs [16:31] not a lot [16:31] so this is a replacement for drupal [16:31] not replacement [16:31] merely an alternative [16:31] extention? [16:31] no [16:31] oh ok [16:32] I just wanted to know if I needed to remove drupal before installin [16:32] drupal is probably better in terms of CMSes, but wordpress is easier to install [16:32] I want easy managability for my users [16:32] wordpress lives in a directory and a database and coexist quite happily with drupal [16:33] I want them to be able to simply post somethign with a picture [16:33] wordpress might be good then [16:33] or drupal [16:33] or any good cms [16:33] just find what you like [16:34] well I already installed drupal and moist of my ppl hae signed up for it [16:34] if it works, don't fix it [16:34] just cant seem to get the pictures working [16:34] new to drupal [16:34] changing the whole system because of such a detail seems overrated [16:34] try to ask on #drupal if such a channel exists [16:35] the question is what server would #drupal be on... [16:35] googling things with drupal in the title is a nitemare [16:36] usually when drupal or wordpress wont post pictures is lack of ram aloud to php [16:36] check your php.ini file [16:36] do I cat that or emacs it to check it? [16:37] sudo nano /etc/php/php.ini probably [16:39] there is no php diredctory in /etc [16:39] search for php.ini in /etc/apache2 [16:41] not there either [16:41] poke around [16:43] dustin_: have you installed php? [16:43] he must if he has drupal working [16:44] /etc/php/apache2/php.ini [16:44] try that [16:44] modifying it === alex_jon1 is now known as alex_joni [16:44] royk php is installed ond functioning great [16:44] /etc/php/apache2/php.ini ? [16:45] there is no php directory in etc [16:45] cd php [16:46] sorry too many open windows [16:46] erm [16:46] cd /etc/php5 [16:46] does that work? [16:47] nobs.game-host.org/zwoop.php works still [16:47] hey, is there a directory called /etc/php5? [16:47] I did ls -a to see what is in etd and nothing with php in the name of the directory is there [16:47] etc* [16:48] what happens if you do 'cd /etc/php5' ? [16:48] after doing that, please do 'pwd' and paste the result [16:48] and any error messages [16:48] it opened but that is strnge it isnt in the ls I just looked at [16:48] whatever [16:49] when pwd says you're in /etc/php5 [16:49] cd apache2 [16:49] vi php.ini [16:49] look for 'memory limit = ' [16:49] what line am I looking for in the ini file [16:49] no idea [16:50] look for the string [16:50] if you're not familiar with vi as an editor, type :wq! at once [16:50] then use nano or something [16:50] I use emacs [16:50] ok [16:51] search for 'memory_limit', 'max_post_size' and 'upload_max_size' and change those to larger values [16:51] after that, restart apache [16:51] post_max_size = 8M [16:51] memory_limit should be set to something you can afford. the others should be set to something less, according to your needs [16:52] yes, that's the default [16:52] and usually too low [16:52] I am running 256 ram with a 40gb hdd on this tiny server what do you reccomend there [16:52] 256 megs of ram? [16:52] its a p3 [16:52] not a lot [16:53] but try giving php 128 megs [16:53] and set vm.swappiness to 100 [16:53] total or in max post [16:53] sysctl vm.swappiness = 100 [16:53] just try both [16:53] 256 megs of ram is not a lot these days [16:53] start with 64 megs on all three variables [16:54] it will probably cover most of the needs [16:54] I know that, that is why I use ubuntu server for it [16:54] I call it a scrap metal server :) [16:54] still, login as root or sudo in and increase vm.swappiness [16:54] it's on 60 (per cent) as a default, and on low memory systems, that's too low [16:56] ty [16:57] sorry if i soud a little dumb but I am new to drupal and php, this server has been great most of the problems are operator error I think [16:58] drupal probably isn't the problem [16:58] restart the services and try again [16:58] it'll probably work [16:59] but 256 megs of ram for a drupal server is not a lot [16:59] I have a new board waiting to go in as soon as I get a processor for my main computer then I will have a 3gig setup under it [17:00] but 265 was pushing it in that old pentium3 setup [17:01] when I restart "services" do I restart apache, mysql and php? [17:01] I didnt think php was restartable [17:02] php is linked to apache - just restart apache [17:02] ok [17:02] mysql is connected through a socket, and won't need a restart [17:15] wow how long does it take to rm a 1tb file [17:15] i thought it could just mark it for overwrite or something [17:19] zroysch it depends on the filesystem [17:31] martin-: i see. its somewhere between ext2 and ext3 [17:31] file is gone now [17:32] e2fsck found errors on the file system. [17:32] great. [17:32] that is from part image, when I'm trying to image this raid5 partition [17:33] Right now I have a nas using ubuntu server. I also have a small website and I was thinking of just hosting myself through the nas. My worry is security. What could I do to assure none of the personal files on the nas will be compromised by opening it up like this [17:33] oh i have the option to continue [17:33] chocamo: put a firewall in front [17:33] pfsense, ipcop [17:33] chocamo: lock down your ports, make sure file permissions are right, [17:34] and by right I mean "tight" [17:34] how so? Just make sure permission for the right people are what they need to be? [17:35] thats about all you can do right? [17:35] Can't read bitmap block 0 from image [17:35] great. [17:36] is there any way to make part image work when i have file system errors [17:36] i get mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/md2, [17:36] there should be a force option right? [17:36] I dont remember what it was [17:38] hmm not seeing any mention of force on the man page [17:38] maybe im thinking of something else [17:38] it is almost guaranteed i'm going to lose data if i e2fsck right [17:42] I have a problem with my RAID 5 /dev/md1 device. Here is my fdisk -l and my mdadm -D /dev/md0 and md1 http://pastebin.com/MBmyrdc4 I recently lost a disk, and failed, removed it, and added a new one. I am trying to mount now, and I can't because I get this error http://pastebin.com/8sSV4xtq [17:43] Is there a way to retrieve ANY of the data on md1? [17:43] geeze [17:43] you and me both [17:43] starting to think md raid is more trouble than its worth [17:44] zroysch: I know, I feel like I could have just done multiple hardware backups and been done with it...but I dropped one :( [17:44] it is in the freezer now, I might try mounting it cold [17:45] lolwut [17:45] zroysch: worked for me before [17:46] sometimes a damaged disk can be frozen and then mounted cold if you REALLY need the data. Feds do it to break hackers comps, they drop hds in liquid nitrogen [17:46] =P [17:47] interesting [17:47] I've heard that advice too, didn't work in my case [17:47] I lost an 8x500GB RAID 5 array when two disks failed within an hour of each other [17:47] qman_: bad luck, sorry to hear that [17:48] raid5 is terrible [17:48] I have a lot of problems with it [17:48] it seems like a bad idea to use drives from the same batch also [17:48] nothing too important was lost, fortunately [17:48] yea i have nothing important on here [17:48] just media [17:48] but my music is pretty important to me [17:48] now I'm running 8x1TB in a RAID6 with one spare configuration [17:48] I just do bihourly rsyncs [17:48] zroysch: wish I could say the same about only losing media :( [17:48] on 2 diff brand drives [17:48] Hoppipola: if its business you gotta be foolish not to backup [17:49] zroysch: I dropped the backup [17:49] dropped? [17:49] ya [17:49] like, on the ground [17:49] like you were holding it and it fell onto the floor [17:49] thats odd [17:49] zroysch: THEN my hd fell [17:49] out of the array that is [17:49] but yeah, bad timing [17:49] ya that sucks [17:50] yeah [17:50] when I put the first one together I had read that raid 6 was for the paranoid [17:50] you need like 3 systems in those black box cases all backing eachother up [17:50] then I lost my data, now I use it [17:50] even raid6 [17:50] seems like raid10 is the only legit one [17:51] yeah, I am starting to think I should just make a triangular mirror [17:51] the RAID, and two external hard copies, but then backup becomes a serious pain [17:51] whats your favorite mail server? [17:52] I like postfix [17:52] postfix is default right? [17:52] yes [17:52] I am looking to create a local only frontend for a mail server with php. But I am not sure how I would interface with the mail server itself? Just system() commands in php? [17:53] what [17:53] I want to make my own personal gmail ripoff [17:53] what's the frontend for? as in, what is it supposed to do? [17:54] are you just looking for a webmail system? if so, there are plenty that already exist [17:54] but I am unfamiliar with postfix so I dont knwo how I would actually retrieve the mail to display etc [17:54] I'd like to do my own just for fun [17:54] well, postfix is only an SMTP server [17:54] whats a good imap one? [17:55] do people use imap ? [17:55] postfix+dovecot is the typical setup [17:55] I always use imap [17:55] i tried it in the office in outlook2007 [17:55] ok [17:55] it was god awful [17:55] can one use fsck to fix corrupted superblocks on ext3 on a drive? [17:55] it was slow [17:55] and deleting emails was stupid [17:55] crossing them out like [17:55] the problem with pop3 is that it only delivers once [17:55] but it was through godaddy so maybe that was the problem [17:55] doesn't work if you have multiple clients on the same account [17:55] I get pop3 sent to my phone and imap in thunderbird [17:56] the godaddy guy said imap is good because it syncs all your devices to have the same mailbox [17:56] they all hated it though so i went to pop3 [17:56] imap is slower, because the mail stays on the server, but it provides far more functionality [17:56] ya and thats what I want [17:57] I've got about 8 accounts set up in my thunderbird, all imap [17:57] it takes about five seconds to fetch my mail [17:57] and opening a folder takes about a second [17:58] local server? [17:58] no, internet [17:58] took like 20-30 at work [17:58] it was stupid [17:58] gmail, AIM, hosted websites [17:58] interesting [17:58] if you're deleting or marking hundreds of messages at once, it hangs notably [17:58] but just reading my mail, it takes only a second or two to load each message [17:59] and when you go to delete it [17:59] what happens [17:59] I generally don't delete my mail, but that only takes a second or two as well [17:59] in outlook it would make a crossout [17:59] and just leave it there [17:59] until some time later when it removes it [17:59] or you could choose to hide the crossouts [17:59] I hate outlook with a burning passion [18:00] also they were saying that if they accidentally deleted something they couldnt get it back [18:00] in pop it just goes to the trash folder [18:00] imap it disappears [18:00] dealing with peoples' multi-GB pst files [18:00] yea. i know [18:00] if it had been up to me they wouldnt be using windows [18:00] that's a problem with the way the server is set up, not imap itself [18:01] or the client, not sure which [18:01] you can move to trash on delete just fine [18:01] i see [18:01] so a godaddy problem then probably [18:01] I actually ran into an issue related to that [18:01] I would delete my spam, and thunderbird would move it to trash [18:01] but on gmail, imap trash is not the real trash [18:02] subsequently, my phone would download all the messages in imap trash via pop3 [18:03] their pop3 configuration is not smart enough to consider imap trash as trash [18:03] why not imap on the phone [18:03] doesn't support it, or didn't when I set it up at least [18:03] oh [18:03] which [18:03] they added it but I haven't gotten around to messing with it [18:04] blackberry storm, the 4.x OS didn't support it, but the 5.x does [18:04] i wanna try the nexus one [18:04] coworker has android on some motorola [18:04] i like it [18:04] i have a bb. i think it sucks alot [18:04] the storm, the hardware is nice, but the software is lacking [18:04] it's slow, lacks features [18:05] the touchscreen on that motorola actually seems usable [18:05] iphone is not at all [18:05] and RIM doesn't update very often [18:05] yea [18:07] so if partimage is telling me e2fsck found errors in the raid5 partition and i cant mount it because wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock [18:07] what am i supposed to do [18:07] the filesystem is probably trashed [18:07] I'm guessing you lost a disk [18:07] but one of the ones you have left isn't any good either [18:07] yea i lost one and mistakenly pulled another one [18:08] but the array is assembled and running [18:08] maybe i should just e2fsck and see what happens [18:08] hate losing data without a backup though [18:08] is it ext3? [18:08] if so, go for it [18:08] it was originally [18:08] ext3 has a very good recovery rate [18:08] but an e2fscking somehow made at least one of the drives ext2 [18:09] well, ext3 is mountable as ext2 [18:09] ok so just e2fsck /dev/md2 ? [18:09] I would just 'fsck /dev/md2' [18:10] working [18:13] how is xfs on file recovery? thats what ive been using for awhile [18:14] http://pastebin.ca/1815812 [18:25] I've had several xfs filesystems tank unrecoverably [18:25] I suggest against it for important data [18:26] what is the best for raid [18:26] * RoyK likes zfs [18:26] i use ext3 for everything [18:26] I use ext3 just because it's been the most reliable for me [18:26] btw, I've been using xfs for years without losing data [18:26] I've never lost significant data due to ext3 [18:27] man. this partition is completely hosed [18:27] xfs is fine as long as your hardware never fails, you never lose power, and you never shut down improperly [18:27] but, when it does break [18:28] at least in my experience [18:28] xfs loses the whole filesystem [18:28] where ext3 and reiser can generally recover with minimal data loss [18:34] gone beyond 3000 lines of fsck errors [18:34] great. [18:36] nice [18:37] zroysch: raidz with zfs is nice [18:37] but that's solaris, no idea what's best for linux [18:37] for storage, I only use opensolaris these days [18:37] why is it nice. [18:38] well, linux lvm seems to be at its early teens compared to zfs [18:38] it's a good filesystem with raid integrated [18:38] and it's good [18:38] i dont use lvm, i think [18:39] copy-on-write and snapshotting integrated [18:39] it's neat [18:39] snapshotting without performance overhead is nice [18:39] fs compression and deduplication is also nice [18:40] it's not perfect, but still better than anything I've seen in the linux world [18:40] yea not sure i'm trying to switch operating systems [18:40] I never switched [18:40] I merely added another [18:41] I still use linux for most stuff [18:41] well i'm not purchasing a new server to try it out [18:41] New bug: #529585 in ntp (main) "package ntp 1:4.2.4p6+dfsg-1ubuntu5.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529585 [18:41] zroysch: try it on a vm [18:41] dont have the time [18:42] it's like not having the time to sharpen one's axe before chopping wood [19:17] Restarting e2fsck from the beginning... [19:17] /dev/md2 contains a file system with errors, check forced. [19:17] wow [19:18] after holding enter for like an hour [19:30] hi. anyone have 9.10 encrypted server installed? [19:37] making coffee. be back in 5 if anyone can help w/reboot-after crash on encrypted-server (Karmic). [20:03] zroysch: why did you have to "hold enter" for so long? [20:15] sherr: because i didnt put the command on whatever makes it automatically press enter [20:15] wow [20:15] http://pastebin.ca/1815963 [20:15] not looking good [20:39] mdeslaur: Do you have /usr/share/pyshared/VMBuilder/plugins/network ? [20:39] soren: nope [20:39] mdeslaur: no?!?! [20:40] Oh, wow, nor do I. [20:40] soren: nope [20:40] wtf.. It's in the tarball.. [20:40] Oh, wow! [20:40] Uh, yeah, ok. I'll just go ahead and fix that, shall I? [20:41] soren: sure :) [20:44] does anyone have a live stream for the gold medal match [20:44] stupid nbc requiring that i login to verizon to prove my cable subscription [20:44] "the gold medal match"? [20:44] yes. ice hockey. [20:44] Uh, no. Not in this channel. [20:44] shall i meet you in another channel [20:44] No. [20:45] so you're speaking on behalf of everyone [20:45] Yes. [20:45] (!) [20:45] grand [20:45] Dude. This is a support/development channel for Ubuntu Server. [20:45] chill out. [20:51] New bug: #529618 in vm-builder (universe) "vmbuilder crashed with VMBuilderException in get_setting()" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529618 [20:54] mdeslaur: ^ [20:55] thanks soren, that was fast :) [20:57] mdeslaur: Embarassing is what it is :) [21:03] ahh ! tried two dynalinks on my ubuntuserver and none works... which did always on older versions ! [21:08] if i'm sick and tired of holding enter in this fsck process can i cancel and restart using the option that auto-enters [21:13] Can anyone give me a pointer to a good resource on configuring wireless interfaces with /etc/network/interfaces ? [21:14] Is there any non-X tool that is better for a situation where I have a laptop server with a cardbus ethernet and cardbus wireless interfaces? [21:14] Something like Archlinux's netcfg [21:20] http://paste.debian.net/61877/ [21:23] Can anyone give me a pointer to a good resource on configuring wireless interfaces with /etc/network/interfaces ? [21:25] Trying to get a high-res console on GRUB2 seems to violate KISS massively :/ [21:25] I suppose they assume everyone will have KMS now [21:25] What was wrong with vga= though