| JanC | there are several GUI applications for working with MySQL databases (of course you want to tunnel your database connection through an ssh tunnel or something similar in that case) | 00:20 |
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| maco2 | JanC: i dont think phpmyadmin was broken, just elky was not paying attention to the filter she had set | 00:23 |
| JanC | she was complaining about the phpmyadmin UI | 00:23 |
| JanC | which made it difficult to see or something | 00:24 |
| pleia2 | updated the forum thread with the voting stuff for IWD | 00:47 |
| akgraner | pleia2, thank you ! | 00:49 |
| pleia2 | we should nudge some admins to change the sticky things | 00:49 |
| pleia2 | sure thing | 00:49 |
| maco2 | admins? | 00:50 |
| maco2 | im i good nuff for you? i'm a moderator | 00:50 |
| pleia2 | sure | 00:50 |
| pleia2 | sorry, I'm not super familiar with the properly terms on the forums, admins, mods, whatever :) | 00:50 |
| maco2 | admins have super powers. we just have powers ;) almost anything that can be done to a thread, a mod can do. to do things like change a username you need an admin | 00:52 |
| maco2 | so what needs unstuck? | 00:53 |
| maco2 | oh leader nominations can unstick | 00:54 |
| pleia2 | and stick IWD | 00:57 |
| pleia2 | yay | 00:57 |
| maco2 | did that | 00:57 |
| pleia2 | thanks maco2 :) | 00:58 |
| maco2 | also deleted a spam in one of the threads | 00:58 |
| maco2 | and banned that user | 00:58 |
| maco2 | (spamming on UF = autoban) | 00:58 |
| pleia2 | great | 00:58 |
| JanC | *ugh* forum spam is a pest :-/ | 01:15 |
| rww | maco2: Do you happen to know who I would talk to about the fact that I am an idiot and somehow made two forums accounts? | 01:20 |
| maco2 | rww: jdong | 01:24 |
| IdleOne | elky: I didn't get any errors when I voted | 04:27 |
| AlanBell | akgraner: I asked again in #launchpad and they told me to make a question https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/102694 | 10:26 |
| issyl0 | Morning all! | 11:02 |
| jussi01 | o) | 11:20 |
| popey | AlanBell: can an admin of the team not remove it? | 13:21 |
| popey | AlanBell: akgraner is an admin | 13:22 |
| Pendulum | popey: she tried yesterday and was told it was a known launchpad bug | 13:22 |
| Pendulum | (or something like that) | 13:22 |
| popey | hmmm | 13:23 |
| Pendulum | I remember her trying and not being able to do it | 13:24 |
| Pendulum | and I thought she said something about it being a known bug | 13:24 |
| Pendulum | nope guess not, just no remove button | 13:28 |
| AlanBell | nope, admins can't remove it | 13:28 |
| IdleOne | is there a log file I can look at to see what caused my pc to shut down suddenly and without apparent reason? | 13:30 |
| elky | dmesg? | 13:31 |
| IdleOne | hmm, anything that is timestamped | 13:32 |
| IdleOne | ? | 13:32 |
| elky | /var/log/messages | 13:34 |
| elky | iirc | 13:34 |
| elky | yep | 13:34 |
| elky | mine is doing a lot of whining about pulseaudio... | 13:34 |
| IdleOne | I'll have a look, thanks elky | 13:35 |
| akgraner | AlanBell, thanks I was already talking to a LP person to get that taken care of :-), but that will work too | 14:11 |
| AlanBell | I hit a similar issue a while back with a person who had an account in an odd status | 14:12 |
| akgraner | yep - did you see the discussion in the LP channel about looking for ways to do housekeeping on the deletions and merges so I know it is not a unique issue | 14:20 |
| AlanBell | I have now | 14:24 |
| AlanBell | akgraner: I added some error handling to my code | 19:21 |
| AlanBell | there are 201 members of U-W | 19:21 |
| AlanBell | 100 of them have signed the CoC | 19:22 |
| Mamarok | only? | 19:22 |
| AlanBell | yup, very nearly exactly 50% so I checked it a few times | 19:22 |
| Mamarok | that is not much... | 19:23 |
| akgraner | AlanBell, I bet that is not unusual... | 19:23 |
| Mamarok | well, I would have expected that at least the u-w members would have signed the Code of Conduct, no? | 19:23 |
| Mamarok | since we expect people to stick to it | 19:24 |
| AlanBell | now this bit is interesting | 19:24 |
| AlanBell | of those who have signed the CoC, the average number of days from joining launchpad to joining U-W is 418.89 | 19:25 |
| AlanBell | of those who have not it is 164.57 days | 19:25 |
| Mamarok | strange | 19:25 |
| akgraner | I don't find it surprising considering the mailing lists work that way as well but many people don't realize the CoC applies to those as well | 19:26 |
| Mamarok | I am pretty sure I joined u-w faster than that | 19:26 |
| AlanBell | I can explain it, it is interesting | 19:26 |
| AlanBell | the blokes in U-W are those who have stuck about for a while and are involved in many areas of Ubuntu before they get to supporting this particular project | 19:26 |
| AlanBell | the women who get interested in Ubuntu join this group earlier in their time of participation | 19:27 |
| AlanBell | but I haven't done a gender breakdown, so that is just me guessing | 19:27 |
| IdleOne | fair guess I would say | 19:27 |
| akgraner | AlanBell, I was going to ask you if that was the case.. as I joined U-W within a few days of signing the CoC iirc | 19:28 |
| maco2 | sounds reasonable | 19:28 |
| AlanBell | akgraner: 10 days to be precise! | 19:28 |
| maco2 | a lot more new women than new men | 19:28 |
| AlanBell | ah, no 10 days from joining launchpad | 19:28 |
| AlanBell | I don't have the date of signature | 19:29 |
| akgraner | I thought I signed the CoC right after I joined - the same say I believe | 19:29 |
| akgraner | s/say/day but anywho | 19:29 |
| AlanBell | akgraner: you may well have done, I don't have data on that, or whether people joined before/after signing | 19:29 |
| AlanBell | but that does fairly conclusively answer the question of whether it is possible to join the group without signing the CoC | 19:30 |
| AlanBell | akgraner: but yes, you joined the U-W group 10 days after registering on launchpad, not many men would do that I think | 19:31 |
| akgraner | nope neither would I if MagicFab had not told me about the group | 19:31 |
| akgraner | last year I asked people both male and female at events if they were aware of UW... and unless they knew someone who was a member they were not aware of it for the most part | 19:32 |
| AlanBell | wow, 55 people joined on the same day as they registered on launchpad | 19:32 |
| Pendulum | I'm not surprised | 19:32 |
| Pendulum | UW was I think the first group I joined | 19:33 |
| akgraner | however, I was told that more people are now aware that the Project exists | 19:33 |
| akgraner | at SCaLE I meant to add to that | 19:33 |
| * Mamarok can't even remember when she joined, but it was a long time ago | 19:33 | |
| Mamarok | must have been around UDS Paris | 19:34 |
| AlanBell | I am the 4th longest in duration from join to join, at 1391 days | 19:34 |
| AlanBell | bit curious as to what on earth I was doing on launchpad in 2006 to be honest | 19:35 |
| maco2 | AlanBell: those 55 may have been told "go join lp so you can join the uw team" | 19:36 |
| AlanBell | maco2: I expect so, possibly some for the recent voting process | 19:36 |
| akgraner | I am thinking that - if we raise awareness by a series of campaigns at the events this next year - that might be the 1st steps to get 1) enrollment 2)actvity 3)contribution 4) mentors 5) as a side effect of those 4 things ubuntu membership will increase | 19:37 |
| Pendulum | actually, if you look at join dates, very few people joined at that time | 19:37 |
| AlanBell | http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/uwteam.ods | 19:37 |
| AlanBell | http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/uwlist.py | 19:38 |
| pleia2 | akgraner: yeah | 19:38 |
| AlanBell | akgraner: yes, ubuntu membership is a side effect of everything else the project does | 19:38 |
| akgraner | so what event(s) are happening in March? | 19:39 |
| akgraner | April is Northwest and Texas | 19:39 |
| pleia2 | it's nice to keep an eye on metrics to know how we're doing and where to target, but most energy should be put toward those things | 19:39 |
| AlanBell | exactly | 19:40 |
| maco2 | june is southwest and september is ohio | 19:40 |
| maco2 | may is party-like-hell-cuz-lucid's-out | 19:40 |
| pleia2 | where is that page we made for who is attending what? | 19:41 |
| akgraner | and hopefully Atlanta will be in Sep as well... | 19:41 |
| akgraner | so looking at -M as some goals it would be raise awareness and see what we can do at events in 2010 | 19:41 |
| akgraner | and see about refining the mentorship program and relaunch it in a BIG way | 19:43 |
| pleia2 | ah, under events | 19:44 |
| akgraner | also I would like to have an Ubuntu Women Blog Post - not like the one we already contribute to on the planet but it is only about the project and things we are doing.. I'd like to kick that off for -M as well (I'll add all this to the suggestions for goals) | 19:44 |
| pleia2 | nothing in march so far http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Events/2010CommunityEvents | 19:44 |
| * akgraner goes to check FOSSevents | 19:45 | |
| akgraner | Theres a few things on the Calendar there... | 19:47 |
| pleia2 | hm our Events page in general needs help | 19:47 |
| * pleia2 tidys | 19:47 | |
| akgraner | also as a plug for the FOSSevents calendar if you have LoCo meetings and or LUG meetings you can send those in to be added to the Calendar as well | 19:47 |
| maco2 | did we decide to talk to canonical folk about getting a wordpress for the team and to the CC about allowing the team blog to be on planet (like the qa team has)? | 19:47 |
| akgraner | pleia2, yeah I added it in a hurry :-( thank you | 19:47 |
| akgraner | why would we need to talk to Canonical about it a team blog on the planet? | 19:49 |
| AlanBell | depends on the planet | 19:50 |
| akgraner | as long as more than one person as access to the blog and can help maintain it... | 19:50 |
| pleia2 | did people commit to writing on a blog? | 19:51 |
| pleia2 | that's the biggest problem with such things | 19:51 |
| akgraner | I would like to stand it up get a week or so of posts on it - then see about moving it to the planet once we get a system worked out | 19:51 |
| maco2 | akgraner: it was talk to canonical about hosting wordpress | 19:51 |
| maco2 | akgraner: and talk to CC about letting a team blog on which non-ubuntu-members may post be aggregated on planet | 19:52 |
| AlanBell | I would suggest the U-W planet to begin with until you have sufficient valuable content on it to consider syndication on planet ubuntu | 19:52 |
| pleia2 | AlanBell: aggregating one planet to another is bad news :) | 19:52 |
| AlanBell | err, no I didn't mean that! | 19:52 |
| pleia2 | plus it means personal entries of non-members end up on ubuntu planet, the CC would never go for that | 19:52 |
| akgraner | maco2, I think you are misunderstanding what I was suggesting | 19:52 |
| maco2 | pleia2: i think he means team blog aggregated on uw planet at first then move it to ubuntu planet | 19:53 |
| pleia2 | maco2: ah | 19:53 |
| maco2 | akgraner: you asked "why would we need to talk to Canonical about it a team blog on the planet?" | 19:53 |
| maco2 | akgraner: i was saying the thing to talk to canonical about would be "can you install wordpress for us?" | 19:53 |
| pleia2 | I guess the point of that is the u-w planet already has readership and our potential blog does not? | 19:53 |
| akgraner | my suggestion was a blog, called Ubuntu Women Project about what events and things we are doing as a team | 19:53 |
| maco2 | akgraner: makes sense to me | 19:54 |
| maco2 | akgraner: but of course blogs require software, so i was saying "convince canonical to host it" ;) | 19:54 |
| pleia2 | canonical will host drupal, which we can use for a blog | 19:54 |
| akgraner | not like what we have now | 19:55 |
| pleia2 | and wordpress is in the ubuntu repo, so we *might* be able to convince them to host it | 19:55 |
| maco2 | akgraner: im not talking about doing anything to planet | 19:55 |
| maco2 | pleia2: someone in -sysadmin said they could do it, but we have to ask first before they *will* do it | 19:55 |
| pleia2 | I have a linode-donated-to-ubuntu-stuff that could also be used for blog.ubuntu-women.org | 19:55 |
| pleia2 | (it already hosts ubuntupennsylvania.org and ubuntu-us.org) | 19:56 |
| akgraner | We can host here as well - with Wordpress so I don't think space will be the issue | 19:56 |
| maco2 | akgraner: bah i mean "im not talking about doing anything to planet ubuntu women" | 19:56 |
| akgraner | maco2, I knew what you meant | 19:56 |
| akgraner | :-) | 19:56 |
| pleia2 | as for going to the CC, that would be a step in several months once we've proven we can sustained a quality blog | 19:57 |
| pleia2 | -d | 19:57 |
| akgraner | ok so I'll add the blog suggestions to the agenda for Tuesday is that cool... | 19:57 |
| maco2 | akgraner: i meant that if some of the people who volunteer to write for the UW blog are not ubuntu members yet (and for example using it as a way to gain membership) we may need to ask the CC for permission to put the UW blog up onto planet ubuntu | 19:57 |
| maco2 | akgraner: yrp | 19:57 |
| maco2 | *yep | 19:57 |
| pleia2 | all teams need to get CC permission to put a blog on the planet, regardless of who posts to it | 19:58 |
| maco2 | ah ok | 19:58 |
| akgraner | I was going to add sections on my new blog that I am rolling out - for the teams and projects I am involved in, and as I was setting it up I thought a UW blog would be a cool thing | 19:59 |
| akgraner | and other people know how to write things better than I do | 20:00 |
| pleia2 | maco2: was a blog something discussed at a meeting? | 20:00 |
| akgraner | nope not yet | 20:00 |
| pleia2 | should probably toss it on the agenda, maybe start a thread on the mailing list | 20:00 |
| akgraner | yep - I was just seeing what people thought about it in here | 20:00 |
| Pendulum | akgraner: would it go under the PR team heading? | 20:01 |
| Pendulum | or be separate? | 20:02 |
| akgraner | Pendulum, I would think it would follow that line of thought | 20:02 |
| * akgraner ponders | 20:02 | |
| akgraner | yeah just add it there | 20:02 |
| akgraner | we have 8 weeks or so til -M plenty of time to iron it out | 20:02 |
| pleia2 | gah, 8 weeks? where has the time gone :) | 20:03 |
| maco2 | wow thats it? jeez | 20:04 |
| akgraner | yeah crazy uh | 20:04 |
| akgraner | time flies when you are having fun :-) | 20:04 |
| pleia2 | or moving :) | 20:05 |
| akgraner | yeah that too.. are you adjusted yet? | 20:05 |
| * pleia2 sighs at all the boxes | 20:06 | |
| pleia2 | it's going to take a while | 20:06 |
| * pleia2 learned yesterday that her boyfriend has 15 boxes of unsorted-to-be-filed mail in storage that needs to be handled | 20:07 | |
| akgraner | AlanBell, sorry we just digressed didn't we - so about those numbers - I'd like to keep track of all those - do you need someone to help you with that? or do you want to keep tracking it all since you set it up? | 20:07 |
| pleia2 | that said, I am starting to have time for Ubuntu stuff again, so I'd be happy to pick up some tasks again | 20:08 |
| akgraner | or is there someone that you would like to work with you on all that - I don't want to assume that you *want* or have time to do that..:-) | 20:08 |
| AlanBell | digression is good | 20:09 |
| AlanBell | I would like someone else to help with the numbers, I don't think it is optimal being just me | 20:10 |
| akgraner | AlanBell, thanks for starting and maintaining the metrics.. :-) hopefully a few folks can help you with that | 20:17 |
| akgraner | pleia2, hehe I am sure we can add to your TODO list :-) | 20:18 |
| akgraner | pleia2, I sent you something :-P | 20:20 |
| akgraner | see PM | 20:20 |
| * Tm_T huggles AlanBell and akgraner | 20:46 | |
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