[00:20] there are several GUI applications for working with MySQL databases (of course you want to tunnel your database connection through an ssh tunnel or something similar in that case) [00:23] JanC: i dont think phpmyadmin was broken, just elky was not paying attention to the filter she had set [00:23] she was complaining about the phpmyadmin UI [00:24] which made it difficult to see or something [00:47] updated the forum thread with the voting stuff for IWD [00:49] pleia2, thank you ! [00:49] we should nudge some admins to change the sticky things [00:49] sure thing [00:50] admins? [00:50] im i good nuff for you? i'm a moderator [00:50] sure [00:50] sorry, I'm not super familiar with the properly terms on the forums, admins, mods, whatever :) [00:52] admins have super powers. we just have powers ;) almost anything that can be done to a thread, a mod can do. to do things like change a username you need an admin [00:53] so what needs unstuck? [00:54] oh leader nominations can unstick [00:57] and stick IWD [00:57] yay [00:57] did that [00:58] thanks maco2 :) [00:58] also deleted a spam in one of the threads [00:58] and banned that user [00:58] (spamming on UF = autoban) [00:58] great [01:15] *ugh* forum spam is a pest :-/ [01:20] maco2: Do you happen to know who I would talk to about the fact that I am an idiot and somehow made two forums accounts? [01:24] rww: jdong [04:27] elky: I didn't get any errors when I voted [10:26] akgraner: I asked again in #launchpad and they told me to make a question https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/102694 [11:02] Morning all! [11:20] o) [13:21] AlanBell: can an admin of the team not remove it? [13:22] AlanBell: akgraner is an admin [13:22] popey: she tried yesterday and was told it was a known launchpad bug [13:22] (or something like that) [13:23] hmmm [13:24] I remember her trying and not being able to do it [13:24] and I thought she said something about it being a known bug [13:28] nope guess not, just no remove button [13:28] nope, admins can't remove it [13:30] is there a log file I can look at to see what caused my pc to shut down suddenly and without apparent reason? [13:31] dmesg? [13:32] hmm, anything that is timestamped [13:32] ? [13:34] /var/log/messages [13:34] iirc [13:34] yep [13:34] mine is doing a lot of whining about pulseaudio... [13:35] I'll have a look, thanks elky [14:11] AlanBell, thanks I was already talking to a LP person to get that taken care of :-), but that will work too [14:12] I hit a similar issue a while back with a person who had an account in an odd status [14:20] yep - did you see the discussion in the LP channel about looking for ways to do housekeeping on the deletions and merges so I know it is not a unique issue [14:24] I have now [19:21] akgraner: I added some error handling to my code [19:21] there are 201 members of U-W [19:22] 100 of them have signed the CoC [19:22] only? [19:22] yup, very nearly exactly 50% so I checked it a few times [19:23] that is not much... [19:23] AlanBell, I bet that is not unusual... [19:23] well, I would have expected that at least the u-w members would have signed the Code of Conduct, no? [19:24] since we expect people to stick to it [19:24] now this bit is interesting [19:25] of those who have signed the CoC, the average number of days from joining launchpad to joining U-W is 418.89 [19:25] of those who have not it is 164.57 days [19:25] strange [19:26] I don't find it surprising considering the mailing lists work that way as well but many people don't realize the CoC applies to those as well [19:26] I am pretty sure I joined u-w faster than that [19:26] I can explain it, it is interesting [19:26] the blokes in U-W are those who have stuck about for a while and are involved in many areas of Ubuntu before they get to supporting this particular project [19:27] the women who get interested in Ubuntu join this group earlier in their time of participation [19:27] but I haven't done a gender breakdown, so that is just me guessing [19:27] fair guess I would say [19:28] AlanBell, I was going to ask you if that was the case.. as I joined U-W within a few days of signing the CoC iirc [19:28] sounds reasonable [19:28] akgraner: 10 days to be precise! [19:28] a lot more new women than new men [19:28] ah, no 10 days from joining launchpad [19:29] I don't have the date of signature [19:29] I thought I signed the CoC right after I joined - the same say I believe [19:29] s/say/day but anywho [19:29] akgraner: you may well have done, I don't have data on that, or whether people joined before/after signing [19:30] but that does fairly conclusively answer the question of whether it is possible to join the group without signing the CoC [19:31] akgraner: but yes, you joined the U-W group 10 days after registering on launchpad, not many men would do that I think [19:31] nope neither would I if MagicFab had not told me about the group [19:32] last year I asked people both male and female at events if they were aware of UW... and unless they knew someone who was a member they were not aware of it for the most part [19:32] wow, 55 people joined on the same day as they registered on launchpad [19:32] I'm not surprised [19:33] UW was I think the first group I joined [19:33] however, I was told that more people are now aware that the Project exists [19:33] at SCaLE I meant to add to that [19:33] * Mamarok can't even remember when she joined, but it was a long time ago [19:34] must have been around UDS Paris [19:34] I am the 4th longest in duration from join to join, at 1391 days [19:35] bit curious as to what on earth I was doing on launchpad in 2006 to be honest [19:36] AlanBell: those 55 may have been told "go join lp so you can join the uw team" [19:36] maco2: I expect so, possibly some for the recent voting process [19:37] I am thinking that - if we raise awareness by a series of campaigns at the events this next year - that might be the 1st steps to get 1) enrollment 2)actvity 3)contribution 4) mentors 5) as a side effect of those 4 things ubuntu membership will increase [19:37] actually, if you look at join dates, very few people joined at that time [19:37] http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/uwteam.ods [19:38] http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/uwlist.py [19:38] akgraner: yeah [19:38] akgraner: yes, ubuntu membership is a side effect of everything else the project does [19:39] so what event(s) are happening in March? [19:39] April is Northwest and Texas [19:39] it's nice to keep an eye on metrics to know how we're doing and where to target, but most energy should be put toward those things [19:40] exactly [19:40] june is southwest and september is ohio [19:40] may is party-like-hell-cuz-lucid's-out [19:41] where is that page we made for who is attending what? [19:41] and hopefully Atlanta will be in Sep as well... [19:41] so looking at -M as some goals it would be raise awareness and see what we can do at events in 2010 [19:43] and see about refining the mentorship program and relaunch it in a BIG way [19:44] ah, under events [19:44] also I would like to have an Ubuntu Women Blog Post - not like the one we already contribute to on the planet but it is only about the project and things we are doing.. I'd like to kick that off for -M as well (I'll add all this to the suggestions for goals) [19:44] nothing in march so far http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Events/2010CommunityEvents [19:45] * akgraner goes to check FOSSevents [19:47] Theres a few things on the Calendar there... [19:47] hm our Events page in general needs help [19:47] * pleia2 tidys [19:47] also as a plug for the FOSSevents calendar if you have LoCo meetings and or LUG meetings you can send those in to be added to the Calendar as well [19:47] did we decide to talk to canonical folk about getting a wordpress for the team and to the CC about allowing the team blog to be on planet (like the qa team has)? [19:47] pleia2, yeah I added it in a hurry :-( thank you [19:49] why would we need to talk to Canonical about it a team blog on the planet? [19:50] depends on the planet [19:50] as long as more than one person as access to the blog and can help maintain it... [19:51] did people commit to writing on a blog? [19:51] that's the biggest problem with such things [19:51] I would like to stand it up get a week or so of posts on it - then see about moving it to the planet once we get a system worked out [19:51] akgraner: it was talk to canonical about hosting wordpress [19:52] akgraner: and talk to CC about letting a team blog on which non-ubuntu-members may post be aggregated on planet [19:52] I would suggest the U-W planet to begin with until you have sufficient valuable content on it to consider syndication on planet ubuntu [19:52] AlanBell: aggregating one planet to another is bad news :) [19:52] err, no I didn't mean that! [19:52] plus it means personal entries of non-members end up on ubuntu planet, the CC would never go for that [19:52] maco2, I think you are misunderstanding what I was suggesting [19:53] pleia2: i think he means team blog aggregated on uw planet at first then move it to ubuntu planet [19:53] maco2: ah [19:53] akgraner: you asked "why would we need to talk to Canonical about it a team blog on the planet?" [19:53] akgraner: i was saying the thing to talk to canonical about would be "can you install wordpress for us?" [19:53] I guess the point of that is the u-w planet already has readership and our potential blog does not? [19:53] my suggestion was a blog, called Ubuntu Women Project about what events and things we are doing as a team [19:54] akgraner: makes sense to me [19:54] akgraner: but of course blogs require software, so i was saying "convince canonical to host it" ;) [19:54] canonical will host drupal, which we can use for a blog [19:55] not like what we have now [19:55] and wordpress is in the ubuntu repo, so we *might* be able to convince them to host it [19:55] akgraner: im not talking about doing anything to planet [19:55] pleia2: someone in -sysadmin said they could do it, but we have to ask first before they *will* do it [19:55] I have a linode-donated-to-ubuntu-stuff that could also be used for blog.ubuntu-women.org [19:56] (it already hosts ubuntupennsylvania.org and ubuntu-us.org) [19:56] We can host here as well - with Wordpress so I don't think space will be the issue [19:56] akgraner: bah i mean "im not talking about doing anything to planet ubuntu women" [19:56] maco2, I knew what you meant [19:56] :-) [19:57] as for going to the CC, that would be a step in several months once we've proven we can sustained a quality blog [19:57] -d [19:57] ok so I'll add the blog suggestions to the agenda for Tuesday is that cool... [19:57] akgraner: i meant that if some of the people who volunteer to write for the UW blog are not ubuntu members yet (and for example using it as a way to gain membership) we may need to ask the CC for permission to put the UW blog up onto planet ubuntu [19:57] akgraner: yrp [19:57] *yep [19:58] all teams need to get CC permission to put a blog on the planet, regardless of who posts to it [19:58] ah ok [19:59] I was going to add sections on my new blog that I am rolling out - for the teams and projects I am involved in, and as I was setting it up I thought a UW blog would be a cool thing [20:00] and other people know how to write things better than I do [20:00] maco2: was a blog something discussed at a meeting? [20:00] nope not yet [20:00] should probably toss it on the agenda, maybe start a thread on the mailing list [20:00] yep - I was just seeing what people thought about it in here [20:01] akgraner: would it go under the PR team heading? [20:02] or be separate? [20:02] Pendulum, I would think it would follow that line of thought [20:02] * akgraner ponders [20:02] yeah just add it there [20:02] we have 8 weeks or so til -M plenty of time to iron it out [20:03] gah, 8 weeks? where has the time gone :) [20:04] wow thats it? jeez [20:04] yeah crazy uh [20:04] time flies when you are having fun :-) [20:05] or moving :) [20:05] yeah that too.. are you adjusted yet? [20:06] * pleia2 sighs at all the boxes [20:06] it's going to take a while [20:07] * pleia2 learned yesterday that her boyfriend has 15 boxes of unsorted-to-be-filed mail in storage that needs to be handled [20:07] AlanBell, sorry we just digressed didn't we - so about those numbers - I'd like to keep track of all those - do you need someone to help you with that? or do you want to keep tracking it all since you set it up? [20:08] that said, I am starting to have time for Ubuntu stuff again, so I'd be happy to pick up some tasks again [20:08] or is there someone that you would like to work with you on all that - I don't want to assume that you *want* or have time to do that..:-) [20:09] digression is good [20:10] I would like someone else to help with the numbers, I don't think it is optimal being just me [20:17] AlanBell, thanks for starting and maintaining the metrics.. :-) hopefully a few folks can help you with that [20:18] pleia2, hehe I am sure we can add to your TODO list :-) [20:20] pleia2, I sent you something :-P [20:20] see PM [20:46] * Tm_T huggles AlanBell and akgraner